There is no right or wrong solution~we humans are flawed, and circumstance and opportunity is what its all about~some will, some wont. Science can be amazing, helpful it can also be damaging and distructive. I wish all a peaceful exsistance, why must we pass judgement and think we know what is right or wrong for others, acceptance to individuality, some will take different paths~smile a little more at one another~everyone has a story~some have battles great and small~peace
guys... there is nothing wrong with being deaf... but there is nothing wrong with giving someone deaf the option to hear. what if they want to hear? we cant keep that away from them just because they were born deaf
@gentlemortal i agree with you on this... i mean this child may be young now and not know the difference but when she gets older she will realize that everyone in her family can hear...then she ll be going 'why cant I?' and feel isolated unless her family learns sign language...but for many sadly that seems to much of a "challenge".
Poor baby girl :( why she cries? does it produces some kind of annoying sound or it hurts on activation? why can activation be like giving a new ear just like when u cover your ear and the you uncovered? is the experience so traumatic?
look, her little girl is cute, and she can hear now, that is all that matters, wether it is with help, or not, the point is, she can hear noise, i can see that she loves her little girl, and that also is all that matters, i do not think that she posted this to read arguments, she wanted to shair a very important part of her and her girls life, be thankfull, not very manny pple would have done this, i think it is very cool, and good luck,
There is more to this world than being able to hear. Deaf people can still communicate, they just do it differently than those who can hear. It's no different than someone who speaks Spanish or French or any other language. At the end of the day, this little girl will still be deaf. She's lucky enough to be able to turn her hearing off when she wants peace and quite unlike people who are not deaf.
Mikaela I completely agree with you... I wish people would leave her alone!! She obviously loves her daughter... I hope you people bitching her out die sad and alone!!!
oh my god. everybody who is bitching this woman out like are you fucking serious?! she is trying to do whats best for her kid! look how much she loves her, and shes trying to make it easier on her kid.
I'm hearing and I would NEVER get my kid a cochlear implant!! Be an adult and learn sign language for your child. They CAN communicate. Oh but I guess that it's just easier for you to have someone shove a metal rod in their head. Just wait until your daughter grows up and resents you for thinking that she needs to be fixed. That she was not good enough the way she was... you disgust me!!
what about the time frame if you miss the devloment time for speach its gone . so she would have no chance to talk by voice now she has choices , and what is the difference between this and getting some other damage or defromity fixed that can improve life? people like you make me sick we can help some one but no you want to leave them like that and make them a freak in the world , when we can help them .
Go tell a Deaf person that they are a freak and you'll get your ass kicked!! I know deaf people that talk and they don't need a cochlear implant. They went to speech therapy... which is what a person with a cochlear implant would also have to do. If she is deaf she can still do everything that the rest of us can do. Deaf people can communicate, they can enjoy music, they can do anything. And a kid with a cochlear implant has a machine stuck to the head. Now who's the freak???
now i dont mean that deaf people are freaks i was friends with a very nice girl , who had implants now if she was only able to do sign i would never had been able to talk to her. and some people that is the only thing that will work for them , oh and by the way speech therappy and all the big medical stuff is not in all places so this may be the only thing they can do for her.
People with cochlear implants have to go to speech therapy too. They're not magically fixed!
And I had a deaf kid at my school and he had lots of friends. Many of the students and teachers and other staff learned some sign language to communicate with him. And if there was someone who didn't use sign language they would use the interpreter which was no different than talking with any other person or they would write notes. He had a lot of benefits that the rest of us didn't have as well.
Even with cochlear implants and hearing aids...deaf kids are still deaf. They are not a "magical fix"...and I doubt you've ever tried to wear hearing aids or an implant and be around hearing people all day. It's not easy. Background noise, bad lighting, bad acoustics, and other situations can make it nearly impossible.
And you're resorting to calling deaf people freaks...that says a lot.
You clearly said, and I quote: "people like you make me sick we can help some one but no you want to leave them like that and make them a freak in the world , when we can help them ."
That makes it sound as if you think anyone who does not fit your narrow definition of normal is a deformed freak who needs help to be fixed.
@seth1987 you know there are plenty of people that can help but dont help trust me on that so if you hear of some one that helps its a blessing but most of us dont get help people are cruel just like your friend up stair but there the ones that will burn in the lake of fire im not even religious but wouldnt be bitter sweat if they all burn and the people that suffer for no reason be given the kingdom
I agree with lasttry. If we can give people who do ot have all of their senses at least almost all of the lost senses, then why shouldn't we?? I mean the implant has been put in Rena at such an early age, that by now she is probably able to deal with all of the sounds. It has been nearly 3 years since she got the implants!!
@seth1987 I agree on some levels with this. I don't think that people who are deaf need to be fixed at all, because they're not broken. That being said, this child was born hearing and, unfortunately, it can be easier being hearing given the world tends to cater toward the hearing. A friend of mine who is deaf has a cochlear implant and she adores it and uses it frequently. I am not saying it's the choice for everyone, but I think it's a good option.
All you have to do is read the comments written by people who didn't get language at an early age (and who are pissed about it) to provide evidence for why CIs are a good thing. My son has one and he is the happiest child I know. He is only three and is already reading. That's all I care about. Language. I want him to be able to write in ENGLISH, not ASL.
...wow. You really aren't very knowledgeable about deafness or ASL.
Hearing aids and cochlear implants are TOOL for learning SPEECH. Not language. Deaf children can naturally learn language through visual means such as ASL...and learning ASL does not negatively impact someone's English. There are many other factors...such as the lack of language at home (since most hearing parents never learn sign), poor education at school (which was and sometimes still is very common).
You generalize about ASL users based on your own ignorance. Deaf children can be bilingual...and when done right bilingualism is very successful. Unfortunately the deaf education system in America is just figuring that out. Other countries such as Sweden are far ahead of us.
I don't see an issue with hearing aids or implants. They can be used and the child can still sign.
And yes. I'm Deaf. ASL is my first language. Do you see any issues with my English skills?
Dude you rock :) I can't figure out why hearing people are so afraid of deaf people and ASL. Deaf people are still normal people who lead normal lives. I took ASL in high school and loved it. I think it's useful to know because you can speak without making a sound. What other language can do that? While sound is an amazing sense to have, it's not necessary for survival. People are stupid and don't realize that when one sense is missing, the others kick in extra. Hope you are well.
Part 4: I know that my daughter LOVES her CI and never stops talking, I don't want other people to think that we didn't accept that she was deaf, we do, but we wanted to offer her every opportunity we could find for her, technology has come so far, implants are not like they were years ago, they are so advanced, had she been born 20 years ago instead of 5 years ago, our choice for her may have been different.ANyways, try to be less neg. of us who are only trying to do what is best for our kiddos
Part 3: does that mean I want her to only be a part of the "hearing world" absolutely not. When her CI is off, she is still deaf, she should be able to still be a part of deaf culture, but many of you don't agree which I think is just wrong. You of all people should welcome her in and care about her, she cares about you, we talk about sign language and other people who are deaf all the time, I know ASL from college and I plan on teaching her now that she is solid in her oral skills.
Part 2: Our window of helping them learn complete, functional spoken language is really only a few years. We are actually giving them the choice to chose for themselves by doing this. Lets just say they decide they don't want to talk and be a part of the hearing world(highly doubt that will happen) If it did though, they could always take the CI off and learn ASL. They can't just decide later to get a CI and learn to talk. My daughter has a CI and is above grade level in her vocab, and language.
All I can say is shame on a lot of you for taking a special moment, a turning point in Rena's life and making negative comments about it. We don't say "Oh you are an awful person because you don't have an implant and only sign." We would never say that, so when you attack our decisions we make for our children it is unexcusable. You say it is unfair of us to make the choice for them, but you are so wrong. We have a small time frame to get our babies implanted and to teach them oral language.
ok... i've seen this in numerous CI vid's now... they crank the things up and hurt the kids. congratulations. start at the lowest volumes then work everything up, not the other way around, blimey.... "oooh it's the first sound she';s hearing...!" no, you moron, it's the first PAINFUL sound she's hearing and she's screaming cos you cranked it too loud to begin with. good job.
and last thing one of deaf's most famous quote "Deaf Can Do Anything, But Hear!" deaf can drive, can have good job, can commucate to hearing peoples or deaf peoples, can do anything I mean anything just as hearing peoples can do but only 1 thing can't do is hear... know what i'm saying... parents need to be careful about CIs, let child decide that most of 'em will say NO! rather to have hearing aids instead of CIs. like I had I had digital hearing aids it so LOUD!!! can hear very clearly
BUT not ALL deaf pissed about it but MOSTLY YEAH... only few deaf peoples like using CIs but MOST of 'em like my friends... I have 36 friends who had CIs they threw it in trash or just never used it... it just waste of money it just like you throw your money outta window. such a huge waste. but not at baby or child ages cause they don't know.. wait till they're teens ooh they'll pain your ass askin you alot questions about CIs they'll be pissed... or some don't it depend how they feel about it
now i'm not here to aruge y'all about it. I'm just telling you... hearing peoples who had deaf child need to calm down.. it nothing wrong with your child, it not mean that your child will have bad life or whatever it's just how it is. I'm deaf and it been 21 years of my life and I LOVE IT! I'm proud been deaf! I can commucate with hearing by using paper write back and forth, it nothing wrong with that. you have to be deaf to understand that. CIs is not for deaf at all! it's hurting deaf feelin
ok now dzemergency is telling you a truth, it's not a lie, or making up story or whatever. I'm deaf myself and i'm 21 year old... I don't use CIs, I have digital hearing aids, but anyway I had alot of friends who had CIs, they're really pissed at their parents! i've seen it. they been asking their parent "why the hell you make me have CIs? why can't you wait till i'm old enough to decide to have CIs or not!?!" and all my friends who had CIs, they throw it in trash or never used it!
I am truly happy for your daughter and the opportunities that are open for her. I have a request. I don't think Rena's first sounds should have been a beep-beep- from Elmo. Please tell these Cochlear Implant people to introduce first sounds as birds, or bells, or running water. So far I have seen drums, and BAH. Bah. Bah....what the heck...nice sounds would be great.
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dzemergency...With children or adults whose hearing loss is a result of meningitis, there is a high risk of ossification of the cochlea. To be able to properly insert the electrode array, surgery must take place quickly. Please make sure you know the facts before criticizing a parent on such a personal decision.
Did I criticize really? Stop attacking me, just because you don't agree doesn't mean I'm rude. I do know the facts, I'm a Deaf studies major. Unfortunately I'm afraid that Deaf supporters and CI supporters may never see eye to eye. Simply I was only saying "Wow. What a brave baby, how much for her to handle!" Personally I don't agree with CI but never did I say or imply that in my comment. I just feel for the baby.
This is incredible. I know the pain of having a child go through traumatic life changing experiences. My 9 year old had TGA and an ASD and had open heart surgery at 7 weeks old. You are a strong mommy...your baby is lucky to have you there for her. Id love to see her happy as she's hearing again in a future vudei!
That is far too much for such a small baby. Meningitis, confusing hearing loss, incredibly invasive and painful surgery, then hearing suddenly going on and off. How confusing and traumatic. Perhaps it would have been better to wait. Meningitis at 4 months and already at 8 months, her implant is activated? She must have been straight back into the hospital!
You need to research the medical issues at stake with meningitis and other diseases that put hearing at risk and what a small time frame there is to make the decision to get a CI before it is too late to do anything.
All I was saying (read my second comment) is that this is a lot of stress on such a young person. Do you see anything rude in that? Your all caps is rude.
The ridiculous comments from the Deaf community never fail to surprise me. As a long-term CI user myself, and a graduating Audiologist, I congratulate you on your decision.
Thank you, this is exactly what I have been trying to get across, to much hostility. There ARE downsides that I think are important for people to know. Sometimes its worth the risk and the downsides surely, but a lot of the time people are happier without them. I'm not criticizing these parents particularly, I just feel that people should stop seeing CIs as a "CURE" for deafness.
of course it scared her - anything that startles a baby will scare them. but it doesn't mean it's a bad or painful thing; it's a miracle of science! i'm happy for her!
(continued...) My oldest son was sad when his hearing aids didn't help him anymore. He wanted sound again. The CIs have been a blessing to us. But yes, my boys are still deaf, and wonderful, too. ;)
What a wonderful moment and a true miracle! My daughter is 10 and got her CI at 21/2 years. She loves to talk, sing and play the violin, all due to her CI. She has also won a speaking contest! Good luck, you've made a great decison for the success of your child, a decision that every parent has a right to make:)
I by no means wish to ridicule your parenting tactics, but I believe cochlear implants are extremely cruel. Especially in children... they have no choice. What if they prefer being deaf to deaf-but-CI? Deafness is not a disease. You don't "cure" it.
well for one thing the parents are just trying to help the chlideren life i ahve ci and i love them i would't live without them and i find this rude that u would put that commet up
But my point is that people *can* live without CIs. If I became deaf (or was born deaf) I would not want an implant. The main thing to me is that deafness would be a part of me, and getting a CI would be like taking away something that makes me who I am.
You really have no idea what you are talking about.If you became deaf you said that deafness would become a part of you, then I would also assume if you start loosing your sight you won't get glasses or a reconstructive surgury. My daughter has a CI, and it has changed her life. She loves hearing and talking. ASL is great if that is your only alternative. So it isn't "extremely cruel" to get a cochlearimplant for your child, it's cruel not too!!
Your argument is flawed. I'm not against hearing aides, which magnify sound. I'm against CIs, which create artificial sound and bypass the ear. I have glasses, because I don't have perfect eyesight. But if I went blind, I wouldn't want an implant (even though there isn't one) that created an animation in my head so I could "see."
i am aware of the differences of a CI and aides. My daughter tried aides for six months. Pulled them out and couldn't hear anything with them. We put on her CI and she would happily wear it. So should my daughter not be allowed to hear because her loss is so profound, and aides don't work for her, but can hear and respond to whispering with a CI?
Look, we're down to personal preferences, and I don't agree with you and probably never will. And I think you feel the same way, so why don't we just let this go?
I think you're missing the point, brittbrat. Your daughter had the choice. CIs can be miraculous for people who want them, especially late deafened individuals. But they don't always have happy endings. Everyone should be able to make their own decision.
Part 1 dz emergency I have read through a few of our comments and disagree with a few points. I feel that you are well meaning just uninformed. I understand that you are deaf studies, but that means nothing to me compared with the realities of having a deaf child. All of you college students take these sign language classes and romanticise it into this beautiful world that doesn't include the down side. I think sign language is a great think but has huge limits. One being when my daughter....
Part 2 only had sign language she could only talk with her family and teachers. She would be cut off from everyone else because they all speak english. (now thankfully so does she). I would also like to comment on your statements of it being "painful", "confusing and traumatic". Now I can only speak of our experience and that of some close friends. I can only say that my daughter has experienced much greater trauma and pain getting her immunizations....
Part 3 Maybe you should consider a school or program that can give you a balanced education as opposed to indoctrinating you into your professors beliefs. Part of being a part is making decisions for your child that they can't make for themselves, so maybe when you become a parent you won't be so quick to criticize other parents.
AGAIN. I'm NOT criticizing! I just think that parents, and everyone for that matter should be aware of the downsides as well. People are told by doctors that these are miracle "Cures" and are not informed at all in a balanced manner. My professors never even talk about CIs much, I'm not some stupid kid romanticizing or wanting to be Deaf. The reality of it is that Deaf people look down upon the CI and hearing kids will be prejudiced as well because CIs look scary and aren't very well-known.
I feel that just proves more that you aren't getting a fair view of things. We told both the pros and cons of cochlear by audiologist. That it is not a miracle cure, and that when she is not wearing it she will still be profoundly deaf. So coming into this I wasn't looking for a miracle. But after my daughter having one for 3 1/2 years I would definitely call it a miracle. Not a cure to deafness, but a miracle that when I whisper to her she can hear what I am saying.
I'm not getting any kind of view fed into me, don't assume that I'm regurgitating someone else's opinion. This is the opinion that I have, especially after watching these CI activation videos. I wasn't referring to the fact that they're still deaf without one, that's obvious. I'm referring to the social obsticals she now has to face and not by her own choice. Deaf people see CI as a statement: I don't want to be Deaf. That isn't fair to the child, who didn't make the decision.
And what I meant about looking scary is that they aren't in the ear, they're in the head which I personally think looks painful. I know it isn't, but children wouldn't know that. Uh, nevermind. I'm being misunderstood, I really never expected all of this flaring up.
Now as far as deaf people looking down on CI and hearing kids that is just being prejudice.I would think they could be more open minded. But since Hannah is the only deaf child in our community under the age of 12. I won't worry about the criticism we will receive from the deaf community. As far as being scary looking that is totally absurd. For one thing everyone thinks it just a hearing aid. I am not going keep her from language because I worry about how she looks. CI/Restoration = Future
See this is where you are starting arguments. CI/Restoration = Future? How profoundly rude and close-minded. How dare you imply that Deaf people are inferior and that they do not have language. ASL is an actual language, which you would know if you researched your decision to implant her. If you and your daughter want a CI, that's fine. How dare you imply, however, that people who don't make that decision are inferior. People are very happy and successful without them.
I have said ASL is great and a language, just precious few in our country knows that language. We signed with our daughter for close to a year, but you can't stop medical advancements. Deafness is a disability just like blindness and I believe someday it will be possible to restore damaged hair cells in the cochlea, thus curing deafness. Cultures change and evolve when they are no longer needed. It is just a fact of life. It is not rude or close minded it is just the world evolving.
Also, there are children who are implanted who decide not to use the CI later on. That was the simple point I was originally getting at. Everyone should have the choice.
Absolutely, mergfkt. I don't wish to criticize either. Everyone has their own choices. But that's just it, isn't it? Babies don't have their own choice. A lot of social and cultural problems usually arise in CI babies. I just hope that she's happy with her parent's decision.
There is no right or wrong solution~we humans are flawed, and circumstance and opportunity is what its all about~some will, some wont. Science can be amazing, helpful it can also be damaging and distructive. I wish all a peaceful exsistance, why must we pass judgement and think we know what is right or wrong for others, acceptance to individuality, some will take different paths~smile a little more at one another~everyone has a story~some have battles great and small~peace
mom22many09 11 months ago
0:27 for instant cry. She is so cuteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee , aww :x .
okeix7 1 year ago
This video had me in tears...omg...
I'm happy for your baby
TheKupoQueen 1 year ago
Just remember we are all unique. Just like everyone else
Nathansgirl1989 1 year ago
guys... there is nothing wrong with being deaf... but there is nothing wrong with giving someone deaf the option to hear. what if they want to hear? we cant keep that away from them just because they were born deaf
gentlemortal 1 year ago 2
@gentlemortal i agree with you on this... i mean this child may be young now and not know the difference but when she gets older she will realize that everyone in her family can hear...then she ll be going 'why cant I?' and feel isolated unless her family learns sign language...but for many sadly that seems to much of a "challenge".
linznoelle 1 year ago
Poor baby girl :( why she cries? does it produces some kind of annoying sound or it hurts on activation? why can activation be like giving a new ear just like when u cover your ear and the you uncovered? is the experience so traumatic?
saultube44 1 year ago
look, her little girl is cute, and she can hear now, that is all that matters, wether it is with help, or not, the point is, she can hear noise, i can see that she loves her little girl, and that also is all that matters, i do not think that she posted this to read arguments, she wanted to shair a very important part of her and her girls life, be thankfull, not very manny pple would have done this, i think it is very cool, and good luck,
temper616 1 year ago
@temper616
There is more to this world than being able to hear. Deaf people can still communicate, they just do it differently than those who can hear. It's no different than someone who speaks Spanish or French or any other language. At the end of the day, this little girl will still be deaf. She's lucky enough to be able to turn her hearing off when she wants peace and quite unlike people who are not deaf.
sunnyhoney0406 1 year ago
Your daughter is sooo cute =) mcl
juggla11223 2 years ago
Mikaela I completely agree with you... I wish people would leave her alone!! She obviously loves her daughter... I hope you people bitching her out die sad and alone!!!
mikeredrugger 2 years ago
I hope they die in a fiery accident!
Laumu11234 2 years ago
oh my god. everybody who is bitching this woman out like are you fucking serious?! she is trying to do whats best for her kid! look how much she loves her, and shes trying to make it easier on her kid.
MikaelaM21 2 years ago
I'm hearing and I would NEVER get my kid a cochlear implant!! Be an adult and learn sign language for your child. They CAN communicate. Oh but I guess that it's just easier for you to have someone shove a metal rod in their head. Just wait until your daughter grows up and resents you for thinking that she needs to be fixed. That she was not good enough the way she was... you disgust me!!
bluej22 3 years ago
what about the time frame if you miss the devloment time for speach its gone . so she would have no chance to talk by voice now she has choices , and what is the difference between this and getting some other damage or defromity fixed that can improve life? people like you make me sick we can help some one but no you want to leave them like that and make them a freak in the world , when we can help them .
lasttry666666 3 years ago
Go tell a Deaf person that they are a freak and you'll get your ass kicked!! I know deaf people that talk and they don't need a cochlear implant. They went to speech therapy... which is what a person with a cochlear implant would also have to do. If she is deaf she can still do everything that the rest of us can do. Deaf people can communicate, they can enjoy music, they can do anything. And a kid with a cochlear implant has a machine stuck to the head. Now who's the freak???
bluej22 3 years ago
now i dont mean that deaf people are freaks i was friends with a very nice girl , who had implants now if she was only able to do sign i would never had been able to talk to her. and some people that is the only thing that will work for them , oh and by the way speech therappy and all the big medical stuff is not in all places so this may be the only thing they can do for her.
lasttry666666 3 years ago
People with cochlear implants have to go to speech therapy too. They're not magically fixed!
And I had a deaf kid at my school and he had lots of friends. Many of the students and teachers and other staff learned some sign language to communicate with him. And if there was someone who didn't use sign language they would use the interpreter which was no different than talking with any other person or they would write notes. He had a lot of benefits that the rest of us didn't have as well.
bluej22 3 years ago
Even with cochlear implants and hearing aids...deaf kids are still deaf. They are not a "magical fix"...and I doubt you've ever tried to wear hearing aids or an implant and be around hearing people all day. It's not easy. Background noise, bad lighting, bad acoustics, and other situations can make it nearly impossible.
And you're resorting to calling deaf people freaks...that says a lot.
seth1987 2 years ago 9
reread it im not calling them freaks it just that if we can help some one have a more normal life then why not try to help ?
lasttry666666 2 years ago
What's normal again?
You clearly said, and I quote: "people like you make me sick we can help some one but no you want to leave them like that and make them a freak in the world , when we can help them ."
That makes it sound as if you think anyone who does not fit your narrow definition of normal is a deformed freak who needs help to be fixed.
seth1987 2 years ago 10
@seth1987 you know there are plenty of people that can help but dont help trust me on that so if you hear of some one that helps its a blessing but most of us dont get help people are cruel just like your friend up stair but there the ones that will burn in the lake of fire im not even religious but wouldnt be bitter sweat if they all burn and the people that suffer for no reason be given the kingdom
strongsick286 1 year ago
I agree with lasttry. If we can give people who do ot have all of their senses at least almost all of the lost senses, then why shouldn't we?? I mean the implant has been put in Rena at such an early age, that by now she is probably able to deal with all of the sounds. It has been nearly 3 years since she got the implants!!
Laumu11234 2 years ago
@seth1987 I agree on some levels with this. I don't think that people who are deaf need to be fixed at all, because they're not broken. That being said, this child was born hearing and, unfortunately, it can be easier being hearing given the world tends to cater toward the hearing. A friend of mine who is deaf has a cochlear implant and she adores it and uses it frequently. I am not saying it's the choice for everyone, but I think it's a good option.
Sarry777 1 year ago 3
your a bitch just cos she wants a beter life for her kid means that shes wrong u just should stfu cos ur nothing but a moron
tbuning1 3 years ago
wow incredible video. Hope she is doing fantastic :)
cockroachafro 3 years ago
All you have to do is read the comments written by people who didn't get language at an early age (and who are pissed about it) to provide evidence for why CIs are a good thing. My son has one and he is the happiest child I know. He is only three and is already reading. That's all I care about. Language. I want him to be able to write in ENGLISH, not ASL.
spamo2008 3 years ago
...wow. You really aren't very knowledgeable about deafness or ASL.
Hearing aids and cochlear implants are TOOL for learning SPEECH. Not language. Deaf children can naturally learn language through visual means such as ASL...and learning ASL does not negatively impact someone's English. There are many other factors...such as the lack of language at home (since most hearing parents never learn sign), poor education at school (which was and sometimes still is very common).
seth1987 2 years ago
i meant good comment
GetMaMoney 2 years ago
(cont)
You generalize about ASL users based on your own ignorance. Deaf children can be bilingual...and when done right bilingualism is very successful. Unfortunately the deaf education system in America is just figuring that out. Other countries such as Sweden are far ahead of us.
I don't see an issue with hearing aids or implants. They can be used and the child can still sign.
And yes. I'm Deaf. ASL is my first language. Do you see any issues with my English skills?
seth1987 2 years ago 3
@seth1987
Dude you rock :) I can't figure out why hearing people are so afraid of deaf people and ASL. Deaf people are still normal people who lead normal lives. I took ASL in high school and loved it. I think it's useful to know because you can speak without making a sound. What other language can do that? While sound is an amazing sense to have, it's not necessary for survival. People are stupid and don't realize that when one sense is missing, the others kick in extra. Hope you are well.
sunnyhoney0406 1 year ago 3
Part 4: I know that my daughter LOVES her CI and never stops talking, I don't want other people to think that we didn't accept that she was deaf, we do, but we wanted to offer her every opportunity we could find for her, technology has come so far, implants are not like they were years ago, they are so advanced, had she been born 20 years ago instead of 5 years ago, our choice for her may have been different.ANyways, try to be less neg. of us who are only trying to do what is best for our kiddos
alidevey 3 years ago
Part 3: does that mean I want her to only be a part of the "hearing world" absolutely not. When her CI is off, she is still deaf, she should be able to still be a part of deaf culture, but many of you don't agree which I think is just wrong. You of all people should welcome her in and care about her, she cares about you, we talk about sign language and other people who are deaf all the time, I know ASL from college and I plan on teaching her now that she is solid in her oral skills.
alidevey 3 years ago
Part 2: Our window of helping them learn complete, functional spoken language is really only a few years. We are actually giving them the choice to chose for themselves by doing this. Lets just say they decide they don't want to talk and be a part of the hearing world(highly doubt that will happen) If it did though, they could always take the CI off and learn ASL. They can't just decide later to get a CI and learn to talk. My daughter has a CI and is above grade level in her vocab, and language.
alidevey 3 years ago
All I can say is shame on a lot of you for taking a special moment, a turning point in Rena's life and making negative comments about it. We don't say "Oh you are an awful person because you don't have an implant and only sign." We would never say that, so when you attack our decisions we make for our children it is unexcusable. You say it is unfair of us to make the choice for them, but you are so wrong. We have a small time frame to get our babies implanted and to teach them oral language.
alidevey 3 years ago
ok... i've seen this in numerous CI vid's now... they crank the things up and hurt the kids. congratulations. start at the lowest volumes then work everything up, not the other way around, blimey.... "oooh it's the first sound she';s hearing...!" no, you moron, it's the first PAINFUL sound she's hearing and she's screaming cos you cranked it too loud to begin with. good job.
oddfellowfloyd 3 years ago
and last thing one of deaf's most famous quote "Deaf Can Do Anything, But Hear!" deaf can drive, can have good job, can commucate to hearing peoples or deaf peoples, can do anything I mean anything just as hearing peoples can do but only 1 thing can't do is hear... know what i'm saying... parents need to be careful about CIs, let child decide that most of 'em will say NO! rather to have hearing aids instead of CIs. like I had I had digital hearing aids it so LOUD!!! can hear very clearly
jesse36james4life 3 years ago 2
BUT not ALL deaf pissed about it but MOSTLY YEAH... only few deaf peoples like using CIs but MOST of 'em like my friends... I have 36 friends who had CIs they threw it in trash or just never used it... it just waste of money it just like you throw your money outta window. such a huge waste. but not at baby or child ages cause they don't know.. wait till they're teens ooh they'll pain your ass askin you alot questions about CIs they'll be pissed... or some don't it depend how they feel about it
jesse36james4life 3 years ago 3
now i'm not here to aruge y'all about it. I'm just telling you... hearing peoples who had deaf child need to calm down.. it nothing wrong with your child, it not mean that your child will have bad life or whatever it's just how it is. I'm deaf and it been 21 years of my life and I LOVE IT! I'm proud been deaf! I can commucate with hearing by using paper write back and forth, it nothing wrong with that. you have to be deaf to understand that. CIs is not for deaf at all! it's hurting deaf feelin
jesse36james4life 3 years ago 3
ok now dzemergency is telling you a truth, it's not a lie, or making up story or whatever. I'm deaf myself and i'm 21 year old... I don't use CIs, I have digital hearing aids, but anyway I had alot of friends who had CIs, they're really pissed at their parents! i've seen it. they been asking their parent "why the hell you make me have CIs? why can't you wait till i'm old enough to decide to have CIs or not!?!" and all my friends who had CIs, they throw it in trash or never used it!
jesse36james4life 3 years ago 3
I am truly happy for your daughter and the opportunities that are open for her. I have a request. I don't think Rena's first sounds should have been a beep-beep- from Elmo. Please tell these Cochlear Implant people to introduce first sounds as birds, or bells, or running water. So far I have seen drums, and BAH. Bah. Bah....what the heck...nice sounds would be great.
suiteisme 4 years ago
That's true, they go BAH BAH BAH and laugh when the babies get upset by it. That's one of the reasons Deaf people are so horrified by it.
dzemergency 3 years ago
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tassoss1 4 years ago
aww shes so cute
invadergoobermonkey 4 years ago
dzemergency...With children or adults whose hearing loss is a result of meningitis, there is a high risk of ossification of the cochlea. To be able to properly insert the electrode array, surgery must take place quickly. Please make sure you know the facts before criticizing a parent on such a personal decision.
wolverinefan1973 4 years ago
Did I criticize really? Stop attacking me, just because you don't agree doesn't mean I'm rude. I do know the facts, I'm a Deaf studies major. Unfortunately I'm afraid that Deaf supporters and CI supporters may never see eye to eye. Simply I was only saying "Wow. What a brave baby, how much for her to handle!" Personally I don't agree with CI but never did I say or imply that in my comment. I just feel for the baby.
dzemergency 4 years ago
This is incredible. I know the pain of having a child go through traumatic life changing experiences. My 9 year old had TGA and an ASD and had open heart surgery at 7 weeks old. You are a strong mommy...your baby is lucky to have you there for her. Id love to see her happy as she's hearing again in a future vudei!
TammyToe 4 years ago
That is far too much for such a small baby. Meningitis, confusing hearing loss, incredibly invasive and painful surgery, then hearing suddenly going on and off. How confusing and traumatic. Perhaps it would have been better to wait. Meningitis at 4 months and already at 8 months, her implant is activated? She must have been straight back into the hospital!
dzemergency 4 years ago
You need to research the medical issues at stake with meningitis and other diseases that put hearing at risk and what a small time frame there is to make the decision to get a CI before it is too late to do anything.
queenmab87 4 years ago
Not really. Just saying it's all a lot of stress.
dzemergency 4 years ago
YOU ARE VERY RUDE
honeybugg0723 4 years ago
All I was saying (read my second comment) is that this is a lot of stress on such a young person. Do you see anything rude in that? Your all caps is rude.
dzemergency 4 years ago
yeah why the hell you touching the babys balls/pussy
coolkid9992 4 years ago
You are the nasty one - she is simply supporting her squirming child in effort to keep her from falling to the floor.
cuer22zoo 4 years ago
omg, can't you see she's only patting her baby's bum.?
PrimeNavigator 4 years ago
The ridiculous comments from the Deaf community never fail to surprise me. As a long-term CI user myself, and a graduating Audiologist, I congratulate you on your decision.
BArcher83 4 years ago
i like your vids
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ChaseChap 4 years ago
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juggalokiller460 4 years ago
SAD
deafkim 4 years ago
Do you mean that rena can hear at last? what makes you think that?
I think, Rena can NOT hear in the certain times . I can give you the examples.
- Rena want to swin, unfortunately witout CI.
- When the CI has a defect, than Rena must be sad because she can not hear.
- When these batteries are empty, than Rena must get the new Battery.
- Rena often get strain/effort and her CI eats her freedom. And She is the part of a robort.
Deaf people can also hear when they wear a pair of hearing aid.
Darkfar 4 years ago
Thank you, this is exactly what I have been trying to get across, to much hostility. There ARE downsides that I think are important for people to know. Sometimes its worth the risk and the downsides surely, but a lot of the time people are happier without them. I'm not criticizing these parents particularly, I just feel that people should stop seeing CIs as a "CURE" for deafness.
dzemergency 3 years ago
of course it scared her - anything that startles a baby will scare them. but it doesn't mean it's a bad or painful thing; it's a miracle of science! i'm happy for her!
manfukkit 4 years ago
The poor baby...it scared and/or hurt her.
I hope that you allow her to learn ASL as well, since that is proven to be very beneficial for deaf children, whether they are implanted or not.
seth1987 5 years ago 2
(continued...) My oldest son was sad when his hearing aids didn't help him anymore. He wanted sound again. The CIs have been a blessing to us. But yes, my boys are still deaf, and wonderful, too. ;)
seaoats1 5 years ago
What a wonderful moment and a true miracle! My daughter is 10 and got her CI at 21/2 years. She loves to talk, sing and play the violin, all due to her CI. She has also won a speaking contest! Good luck, you've made a great decison for the success of your child, a decision that every parent has a right to make:)
lucretus 5 years ago
I by no means wish to ridicule your parenting tactics, but I believe cochlear implants are extremely cruel. Especially in children... they have no choice. What if they prefer being deaf to deaf-but-CI? Deafness is not a disease. You don't "cure" it.
mergfkt 5 years ago
well for one thing the parents are just trying to help the chlideren life i ahve ci and i love them i would't live without them and i find this rude that u would put that commet up
122192ben 5 years ago
But my point is that people *can* live without CIs. If I became deaf (or was born deaf) I would not want an implant. The main thing to me is that deafness would be a part of me, and getting a CI would be like taking away something that makes me who I am.
mergfkt 5 years ago
You really have no idea what you are talking about.If you became deaf you said that deafness would become a part of you, then I would also assume if you start loosing your sight you won't get glasses or a reconstructive surgury. My daughter has a CI, and it has changed her life. She loves hearing and talking. ASL is great if that is your only alternative. So it isn't "extremely cruel" to get a cochlearimplant for your child, it's cruel not too!!
brittbrat223 5 years ago
Your argument is flawed. I'm not against hearing aides, which magnify sound. I'm against CIs, which create artificial sound and bypass the ear. I have glasses, because I don't have perfect eyesight. But if I went blind, I wouldn't want an implant (even though there isn't one) that created an animation in my head so I could "see."
mergfkt 5 years ago
i am aware of the differences of a CI and aides. My daughter tried aides for six months. Pulled them out and couldn't hear anything with them. We put on her CI and she would happily wear it. So should my daughter not be allowed to hear because her loss is so profound, and aides don't work for her, but can hear and respond to whispering with a CI?
brittbrat223 5 years ago
Look, we're down to personal preferences, and I don't agree with you and probably never will. And I think you feel the same way, so why don't we just let this go?
mergfkt 5 years ago
Fine with me, I just find people like you entertaining! Thanks
brittbrat223 5 years ago
Unnecessary.
mergfkt 5 years ago
* Claps hands*
122192ben 5 years ago
I think you're missing the point, brittbrat. Your daughter had the choice. CIs can be miraculous for people who want them, especially late deafened individuals. But they don't always have happy endings. Everyone should be able to make their own decision.
dzemergency 4 years ago
Part 1 dz emergency I have read through a few of our comments and disagree with a few points. I feel that you are well meaning just uninformed. I understand that you are deaf studies, but that means nothing to me compared with the realities of having a deaf child. All of you college students take these sign language classes and romanticise it into this beautiful world that doesn't include the down side. I think sign language is a great think but has huge limits. One being when my daughter....
brittbrat223 3 years ago
Part 2 only had sign language she could only talk with her family and teachers. She would be cut off from everyone else because they all speak english. (now thankfully so does she). I would also like to comment on your statements of it being "painful", "confusing and traumatic". Now I can only speak of our experience and that of some close friends. I can only say that my daughter has experienced much greater trauma and pain getting her immunizations....
brittbrat223 3 years ago
Part 3 Maybe you should consider a school or program that can give you a balanced education as opposed to indoctrinating you into your professors beliefs. Part of being a part is making decisions for your child that they can't make for themselves, so maybe when you become a parent you won't be so quick to criticize other parents.
brittbrat223 3 years ago
AGAIN. I'm NOT criticizing! I just think that parents, and everyone for that matter should be aware of the downsides as well. People are told by doctors that these are miracle "Cures" and are not informed at all in a balanced manner. My professors never even talk about CIs much, I'm not some stupid kid romanticizing or wanting to be Deaf. The reality of it is that Deaf people look down upon the CI and hearing kids will be prejudiced as well because CIs look scary and aren't very well-known.
dzemergency 3 years ago
I feel that just proves more that you aren't getting a fair view of things. We told both the pros and cons of cochlear by audiologist. That it is not a miracle cure, and that when she is not wearing it she will still be profoundly deaf. So coming into this I wasn't looking for a miracle. But after my daughter having one for 3 1/2 years I would definitely call it a miracle. Not a cure to deafness, but a miracle that when I whisper to her she can hear what I am saying.
brittbrat223 3 years ago
I'm not getting any kind of view fed into me, don't assume that I'm regurgitating someone else's opinion. This is the opinion that I have, especially after watching these CI activation videos. I wasn't referring to the fact that they're still deaf without one, that's obvious. I'm referring to the social obsticals she now has to face and not by her own choice. Deaf people see CI as a statement: I don't want to be Deaf. That isn't fair to the child, who didn't make the decision.
dzemergency 3 years ago
And what I meant about looking scary is that they aren't in the ear, they're in the head which I personally think looks painful. I know it isn't, but children wouldn't know that. Uh, nevermind. I'm being misunderstood, I really never expected all of this flaring up.
dzemergency 3 years ago
Now as far as deaf people looking down on CI and hearing kids that is just being prejudice.I would think they could be more open minded. But since Hannah is the only deaf child in our community under the age of 12. I won't worry about the criticism we will receive from the deaf community. As far as being scary looking that is totally absurd. For one thing everyone thinks it just a hearing aid. I am not going keep her from language because I worry about how she looks. CI/Restoration = Future
brittbrat223 3 years ago 2
See this is where you are starting arguments. CI/Restoration = Future? How profoundly rude and close-minded. How dare you imply that Deaf people are inferior and that they do not have language. ASL is an actual language, which you would know if you researched your decision to implant her. If you and your daughter want a CI, that's fine. How dare you imply, however, that people who don't make that decision are inferior. People are very happy and successful without them.
dzemergency 3 years ago
I have said ASL is great and a language, just precious few in our country knows that language. We signed with our daughter for close to a year, but you can't stop medical advancements. Deafness is a disability just like blindness and I believe someday it will be possible to restore damaged hair cells in the cochlea, thus curing deafness. Cultures change and evolve when they are no longer needed. It is just a fact of life. It is not rude or close minded it is just the world evolving.
brittbrat223 3 years ago
Also, there are children who are implanted who decide not to use the CI later on. That was the simple point I was originally getting at. Everyone should have the choice.
dzemergency 3 years ago
i have a Ci its changed my life i love it u wanna call it cruel fine call it cruel but u won't know what its like its changed a lot of people lifes
122192ben 5 years ago
Absolutely, mergfkt. I don't wish to criticize either. Everyone has their own choices. But that's just it, isn't it? Babies don't have their own choice. A lot of social and cultural problems usually arise in CI babies. I just hope that she's happy with her parent's decision.
dzemergency 4 years ago