Nadal, Djokovic, Federer, Murray, Soderling, and almost every player of the top 20 of the ATP would wipe the floor with the Williams sisters, Sharapova, Wozniacki, Clijsters and the like. It's not sexism-it's the way it is. The requirements for men's and women's tennis are vastly different.
@aleztfu To compare the girls with Nadal or Federer etc. it's ridiculous! It'll be nice to know if the best female athletes could win for example the n. 450 male ranked..how could someone beat who is faster ,stronger and equally trained?
Martina was allowed to hit into the doubles area, which was reduced in size for this match only. If you look at other courts, the area is like twice as wide.
Regardless, Martina might have had a chance if she hadn't produced so many unforced errors.
people here ranting on how serena and venus would be able to beat anyone on the male tour because "they serve 125 mph" is absolutely retarded.
yes they hit hard, but 125 is an average 1st serve on the male tour. and what about after the serve? i mean come on the williams sisters move like trucks on the court, they would NEVER be able to keep up with the pace of a men's baseline play its just plain stupid to think otherwise.
It's not true to say, as some have here, that the Williams sisters serve as fast as many of the men.
Most men ranked in the top 100 can hit a serve over 130 mph. The fastest women's serve to date is Venus Williams' 130 mph and Sabine Lisicki's 130 mph. No woman has ever served over 130, yet scores of male players do so with ease.
Btw, the fastest men's serve ever was Andy Roddick's 155 mph delivery during a summer tournament.
In 1998, at the Australian Open, the #203 ranked man in the world, Karsten Braasch, beat Serena Williams 6-1 and then turned around and beat Venus Williams, 6-2, all while smoking cigarettes and drinking beer during changeovers. (Look it up.)
He played the sisters after they made a comment that they could beat guys ranked outside the top 200.
It may not be politically correct to say this, but the best women tennis players are nowhere near as good as the 10th tier men.
@Vithification Women have a different body: less strenght, speed, endurance etc. That's why they compete in different categories. A low ranked man is however a man!!!
There are a lot of ignorant comments here. Male humans are physically stronger in general, mainly due to testosterone. That isn't the case in all animal species. For instance, one contemporary winning racehorse is a mare. Being physically strong and fast, though, does not necessarily make for more interesting sport. I have watched a lot more women's tennis over the years, and anyone who thinks talented players like Navratilova are no fun to watch should becoming more open-minded.
@joeilbuono80 Non sono necessari Federer e Nadal: il numero 180 del mondo batterebbe Venus 6-0. A wimbledon 2007 servì + forte di loro, ma senzo di profondità, resistenza, tecnica..Non si può paragonare 1 uomo ad 1 donna sul piano atletico. Considera che la Pellegrini con il suo record arriverebbe quasi ultima agli italiani maschili.
Piaccia o meno, esistono delle differenze sostanziali che devono per forza essere considerate, e che rendono la femmina fisicamente più debole e più vulnerabile dell'uomo.
Le differenze ormonali tra i due sessi fanno sì che l'uomo medio sia superiore alla donna media in caratteristiche fisiche come forza, potenza, velocità, resistenza, peso, altezza, aggressività.
Queste qualità rendono chiaramente l'uomo eterno vincitore nella lotta.
Oh please... there's no magical thing in us the men that makes us be better players, we just hit harder than women and so we thrash them, but c'mon I enjoy watching women's tennis (at its peak of course with Hingis Mauresmo Williams Seles Davenport Capriati Graf etc not with these useless girls like Ivanovic) as much as I enjoy watching a federer nadal coz this girls make the game entertaining I don't think that any man ever could do better dropshots than Martina Hingis.
Interestingly, when that old, low ranked guy beat the Williams sisters back in the 90s (after they claimed they could take on any guy outside the top 100), the articles say he used "a befuddlement of spins" and toyed with them, moving them around the court at will.
My feelings on womens tennis are mixed. Yes they can put on a good show... but you can get the same on a local level with men. Not sure where the fairness is. Seems to contradict everything feminism fought for lol.
No woman has even bothered to enter prequalifying for a men's ATP event, as far as I am aware, even though they would be permitted to and there would be prizemoney on offer. That's an admission of the difference in ability.
Venus and Serena in 1999 were only 17 and 16 years old of course you ignore this point! Venus and Serena were only teenaged girls and that German player was a grown man. I am just suggesting that Venus and Serena serve over 125 mph and they can indeed compete with men they are more powerful than people realize.
@JordanjamesX I agree with you, they were teenegers and at Wimbledon 2007 Venus served faster than Federer and Nadal. But tennis is also endurance, coordination, reflexes and probably even today serena or Venus could'n win the 300 ranked male player.
@furaskin i dont agree the williams already serve faster then most men on the tour! I would put Serena up agains many guys on the tour and she would come out on top
@nickelwindow53 As i said Venus could not win the male number 300 , and clearly can't hit as hard as Roddick; what i wrote is that Federer and Nadal at Wimbledon 2007 hit the ball weaker than her, and this isn't an opinion but a fact!
Martina was old by then. But, yes... men have a huge physiological advantage of potentially twice the level of available oxygen (or something like that).
Even in elite sports it is possible to take things up a fair notch. I love women and the modern players have fabulous bodies. If they could just now combine those magnificent thighs with steffi graf movement, i think they might have a real chance to take it further.
I also disagree I think it depends on the female tennis player if she can beat a man in a match. Navratilova serve is so slow compared to Serena Williams serve. Serena can serve over 120 miles per hour consistently. I think when Serena plays her best she can compete and beat ATP Tour players she is just so talented.
@JordanjamesX this is very true i saw Serena on the back courts at this years Australian open, her male hitting partner absolutely slamming down serves as hard as i saw any man hitting the serve in practice and Serena getting it back with interest. If any woman was to take on a man id put my money on Serena on one of her good days, devastating power!
@JordanjamesX Anyone who actually thinks that any female player could beat a man ranked in the top thousand is delusional. Venus and Serena were thumped when they tried in 1999 (I think that was the year).
yes we had a former wta player at our club too, and she wasn't successful at the wta tour but still whipped most of the club men good players. I also think the comment about Chris Evert losing to her brother unfair becuase Chris was a consistent counter puncher not a power player. Once only had to see how she was mauled by Steffi Graf in the later stages of her career to see how power could break down her counter punching game.
well i think it depends on the males serve, if its a clay courter who just gets the serve in top women would rally more and win more points. The williams sisters played a 200-300 ranked player few years ago at aus open who whipped them, but suprise suprise that was Kohlshreiber who is now ranked int he top 30! You also have to consider psychology changes in every match, so one off battle of sexes match one player can be effected by nerves
Strange match, Martina looks to be playing tentatively here. Not a good match up on more than grounds of sex. Martina was never good at power baseliners such as Graf and Seles, so to pit her against connors still bad. Put a 21yo Graf or Seles in their prime against an aged Connors could have been a different story. Martina maybe would have had more a chance on Grass also, plus her serve would have had to been really working.
Graf or Seles at 21 would be absolutely pulverized by Connors at 40, or by any top male professional. This has nothing to do with a specific match-up. Men are so much stronger than women that a decent male club player could hit with the best professional women. Chris Evert (former no 1) was beaten badly by her brother in practice, and he was a happy amateur, nowhere near a ranking.
Well I tend to disagree. I was just at the Australian open live and watched Serena play. Her serves were going in around 190km an hour, her groundstrokes were vicious.... to say a good male club player could push her playing like that i dont think so.... Plus you should also think mental abilities come into it, not just strength, and also technique..... so if u purely judged it on mental and technique a lot of pro women have it over a lot of pro men
We had a former WTA player (albeit on a modest level) play in the amateur league at my club. These guys lost to her most of the time. But it was a rare sight seeing bald men with a beer-belly, and dubious technique, actually challenging, and occasionally beating, a former top female player.
First of all 40 is not that old, second Connors is one of the greatest male players to have lived, third from this video connors looks like hes playing no different to when he was 25yo! A 19yo Steffi Graf at her peak or a Serena Williams at her peak form would have pushed him a lot more, but he was still a damn fine player at this age, hardly a fair matchup
Wait there is people here who do think Williams serves faster and better than Federer ?
Who the fuck are you kidding ? She is good at putting her feet on the court while serving, that' s right !
Now on a serious matter, this match between Connors and Navratilova was really epic at the time, she was claiming a female could beat a male, and well it's possible only if the said male is not one of the best in the world !
Well, what she said was that she thought she could beat the number 100 man in the world and that she maybe could beat Harold Solomon (who was top 10 in the world years ago), claims that were ridiculous in and of themselves. The reality is that there are literally thousands of men who could beat the best women. I am a tennis pro (no longer active) and know whereof I speak.
@schusterlehrling Actually Tracy Austin said the opposite. Her brother beat her 6-0 regularly. And he was never top 50. The no 500 male player would thrash any woman by whatever score he chose to beat her by. Not politically correct, but factually correct. Even Navratilova said her trainer Mike Estep could beat her in her prime and he was no longer on tour.
@mccluskey actually i there was a video of the stanford no.1 playing with dementieva and jankovic and he seemed like he was having alot of trouble playing dementieva but i seriously think that clijsters and henin would stand a good chance agaisnt some top male players on tour
Just so you know, there are hundreds of men who can beat the top women 6-0, 6-0. In the above video, Connors had to play with substantial handicap and still won in straight sets. It's nothing new, either. I could give you many examples of no-name men beating top women.
why would that be fun. the guy would beat her 6-0 6-0 60 if he chose to every time. How many points would Serena take from Roger? Maybe 2 points a set.
are you nuts! Serena's hardest serve is Roger's average one. Fed handles Roddick, and Cilic, and Philipousis, and Karlovich's bombs, and you think he'd have trouble returning Serena's serve. 60 60 till the end of time.
Mr misogin you know that won't end like this 60 60...anyway this should be proved in 2003 when Serena said that she could beat the number 100 of the ATP...
yeah typical pc lib. Just because i state the obvious truth, you try to label me. I should lie right! Fact is fact. The no 500 male player would thrash Serena. No disrespect to her or any other woman player. But again it's the truth.
Serena never said she could beat the no 100 male, because she knows that's absurd. In fact she and sister both played a set each vs the no 110 guy about 4yrs ago. A French guy i forgot his name. They both lost 6-1. And he was supposedly hungover while beating them.
Actually, the guy was Karsten Braasch (sp?), a German, and he was about 203 in the world. You are correct in saying that Williams would lose to the number 500 player; in fact, there are literally thousands of men who could beat here (college players, highly ranked juniors, retired pros who are still in shape, etc.).
Well obviously men have strength as an advantage. If it was purely based on skill and tennis ability then there are certainly many top women out there as talented as the men. How you would handicap for the power/ strenght difference though would be hard.
Not exactly. First, movement (speed and quickness, and there is a distinction between the two) is the biggest difference between the sexes. Strength comes in second to it, although, of course, part of the reason why the men move better is their greater strength. Second, it's not really true that the women are as skilled. I used to play tennis professionally and teach it for many years, and I can tell you that the skill advantage men enjoy is not negligible.
hahahahahah Serena's serve in any way bette than Fed's? xD waht r u smokin xp Federer's serve is by far better than that of Serena's. Seen the amount of aces he gets? and seen his top speed yet? no? well lets just say it's up ther with A-Rod
now hes not up to speed with At wimbeldon everytime his first serve would go in he had a 50% chance of it being an ace and all without having to scream at the top of his lungs like serena.
you dont get the point do you? the point is that the one-hander is a predominantly a mens shot (cause many men play it) and the two-hander is womens(cause about 1% play 1hbh) and here the roles are reversed
well you could say i mean it also in the wrong way. cause i dont like the two-hander i like to watch one-handers and id love to see more men with one-handers.
I don't think this is battle of sexes..........com'on people, everyone knew Martina is not really a girl, she is man, she is actually stronger than most of male players of her time..........so Jimmy was playing against a man in a woman's body...........that's all.
In 2003 and 2008, Tennis Week ran features identifying the greatest women tennis players of all time by objectively comparing their career statistics. The result?
"The statistics don't lie: when you look at Navratilova's career record of 167 titles, 18 Grand Slam singles titles and an incredible domination of women's tennis over a five-year period, you have to conclude Martina Navratilova is the greatest women player of the Open Era."
I have to agree with Outlander. If they were to take the hardest female hitters; Serena, Venus, Sharapova. They would all get their ass handed to them by guys ranked in the 100's. John Isner (ATP rank 114) for instance, has a rediculous serve that they can't handle. The men hit with a great deal more pace and they use a more intense strategy that puts more pressure on their opponents to win.
Connors doesn't hit as hard as some of the women of his time : Monica Seles, Steffi Graf, Lyndsay Davenport.......He definitely runs faster than them, though.
Well, not quite. Lindsay turned pro in 1989. Connors still made the now famous miraculous run to the semi finals of the US open in 1991 at the age of 39. Connors still played a full schedule in 1991.
I wouldn't say he didn't hit as hard. Don't judge based on this match, because Connors wasn't playing his game here. While he did win this (even with the handicap), a tennis pro friend of mine who watch the match said that Connors was VERY nervous. He played terribly, really. Should have actually won about 6-2, 6-1.
Not just this match. I've watched plenty of Connors and then I've watched plenty of later generation women. I honestly feel the women, esp the really current ones like the williams, sharapova, safina truly do hit even harder than the men in 70's or 80's. Not just Connors. But even those men would beat today's women because of suprior movement.
I actually might agree with you there. Perhaps not Connors, but the pace definitely was a lot slower in the 70s. And you prove that you understand the game by mentioning that the men's superior movement would still enable them to win easily. Movement is the single biggest difference between the sexes in tennis (not the serve, as laymen tend to believe).
Thanks. Even in today's power game, movement is still of paramount importance. Or perhaps even because of the power game, players all need to move even faster and more efficiently to catch up to their opponents' shots.
Movement is always a huge factor, but your 2nd comment more correct. The only time movement wouldn't be a factor is if you were hitting so slowly that any ambulatory person could reach the ball. But as the velocity increases, you have to be faster and faster to be in a position from which you can hit a controlled shot (if your positioning is compromised, so will your control be). This is why men have a big advantage. Because they're quicker, they can be in good position for a higher % of shots.
Today the womans game is so boring to watch. Its all about power and hitting from the baseline as hard as you can. Theres no more variety. They all have the same technique, virtually one in the womans game has a single handed backhand... They suck at vollying too.
Not sure he runs as fast as Steffi could as she was Olympic qualifying time for the 800m!! Though I still think at their respective peaks he would probably have won...
You may have a pt with Steffi. But Connors probably would still top Steffi in the reflex department. Men in most cases have greater motor response than women.
That's irrelevant. Movement on the court is a specific skill, and all the pros have the proper technique where that's concerned. The men are significantly faster than the women across the board. And probably? Connors would have beaten her 6-0,6-0.
Well, that's interesting. So, your way of dealing with error is to play it off as if you're just talking tongue in cheek. I don't know, but a real man admits error and appreciates someone who helps him to become more knowledgeable (I am a tennis pro, so I do know whereof I speak).
a few years ago venus and serena played bagston brasch, who never made the top 150 and they lost 6-2,6-1. he said he spent the whole night in a bar drinking whiskey and chain smoking. i doubt sharapova beat anyone considering she can barely play doubles right now.
I suspect the biggest difference between the boys and the girls is not so much how well they hit the ball, but their mobility and reach on the court. Lots of the top girls hit the ball really well but they are comparatively slower in moving to the ball.
Sexism sucks. McEnroe, who is a "pro" has said a few things such as Lindsay Davenport in 2005 was the cleanest striker of the ball man or woman that he had ever seen. Also he said Henin's backhand is the best single handed backhand he has seen man or woman. Not that McEnroe knows anything about tennis... (winner of 7 slams, etc etc)
No-one is being sexist here (well, maybe a couple of assholes, but). As I wrote, the girl I played against has a better technique than I (she's also a coach). And she's beautiful, intelligent etc. I just win. Life sucks.
McEnroe also said, when asked about playing Navratilova, that he'd annihilate her. He also said, when about 43, that he and the other Senior Tour players could easily beat the women, which was, of course, true. The other comments have to, again, be placed in context and perspective. This is something that you, as a layman, are obviously incapable of doing.
You have missed the entire point of what I am saying. In ALL of my posts I have NEVER said a woman could beat a man. Please copy and paste where I have said that? I said they can hit the ball as well as men. On the McEnroe front you have been uncapable of stating contrary to what I said such as Davenport hitting the ball cleaner than men and Henin having the best backhand man or woman.
Last week I played against a girl with a higher ranking (say if I played a guy ranked like her, losing 62 62 would be a "victory"), 15 yrs younger and with a better technique (I'd kill for her forehand volley!). I won quite easily, serving only second balls cause she couldn't handle (see...) my best serve and I'm just 5-11, not Ivo Karlovic. By the way, Jim COURIER.
You're correct about the spelling. My memory did fail me, and I suppose I have egg on my face because I corrected the other man's spelling. Nevertheless, the substance of what I said was correct. It's laughable to think that Courier would have been afraid of Seles.
Petey, again, you don't understand the profound gap between the men and women. The men can literally beat the women 6-0, 6-0. Unless you understand that, you cannot possibly assess these matters properly. As an example, I looked up the Courier quote, and it does exist, but you misconstrued it. he was asked to hit with Seles when she was 12 and he 15, and was trying to practice. Despite hitting the ball to her (which is what you do when rallying), she was trying to bang winners. He said, cont.
Oh and looking at your profile information, you are 29. You clearly have made a name for yourself on the ATP at such a "young" age. Forgive my "layperson" perspective, but if a player is 29 and hasn't gotten to the top 100 isn't your career considered "failed"? Unless we are talking about having the longevity of say Agassi or Connors you really are a force to be reckoned with or you are a late developer, perhaps being a "pro" such as yourself is not the best career move.
Keep it coming Peteypooo. Bjornsiborgsi is the dumbfuck, sexist one. So sexist that he even puts the "worst" club players over Seles or Navaratilova. He's probably the one who got a bad whipping from a woman tennis player and thus, the sexist remarks.
hey man, don't waste your breath on peteypooooo. SHE obviously is a dumbfuck. i've been reading your banter. any chick who says navrtl. or seles can take on a guy, any guy on the circuit, doesn't know shit about tennis. they will lose to the worst club player, never mind the pros
exactly! hell i beat mary pierce and chanda rubin in straight sets when I was in college and they were top 10 in the world. it's a totally different game. no woman pro could ever beat a man pro. even if he was ranked outside the top 500
You're correct. I used to be a tennis pro myself, so I understand this well. Unfortunately, most of these people know nothing about tennis and simply believe the politically-correct, feminist hype.
He said, "OK, I'm impressed, now let's practice." She wouldn't, so he walked off in disgust and said he wasn't going to be a guinea pig. Much different than how you characterized it. Understand that when good players practice, they engage in rallies, hitting the ball to each other. It's also what "drilling" often amounts to. To not do so is considered a breach of etiquette, and it's rare for someone to do what Seles did. Thus, Courier's response was understandable and not driven by fear.
With regards to Navratilova, her volleys are better than most men, her half volley is one of the best man or woman the game has ever seen. Obviously at her peak she would not win a game off a man. For someone with such "authority" your arguments are clearly flawed. You argue with the premise I am saying women could beat men... sorry, never said that. However in patches, they can hit the ball almost as hard as men, or with as much skill; obviously not the consistancy men can.
You know very little about the game, pal. Look, if you want to play for money, let me know. Then you'll find out who you're talking to. You're a layman who has a very dangerous thing: a little knowledge.
Actually I know a lot about tennis. You're hardly the oracle yourself. Lay person? Think of another term, and in fact, another argument to bring to the table as you have created an argument when there was not one there.
Ooo I am scared of someone who is on youtube? Money on the table. I hope your tennis is as entertaining to watch as your flawed critique. I would gladly pay to see that
I agree with you on Navratilova, did you know that women showed more resistance than men regarding space exploration physical tests?it was a big surprise most of the selected women were test pilot, After kennedy died the project was totally canceled.now I think some women could match men in tennis for a short time but not on the long run a 5 set but who knows..maybe will some supergirl prove us wrong..))
Dovevano chiamarla semplicemente "torneo esibizione" non Battaglia dei sessi..
Sigillo7 5 months ago
Nadal, Djokovic, Federer, Murray, Soderling, and almost every player of the top 20 of the ATP would wipe the floor with the Williams sisters, Sharapova, Wozniacki, Clijsters and the like. It's not sexism-it's the way it is. The requirements for men's and women's tennis are vastly different.
aleztfu 7 months ago
@aleztfu To compare the girls with Nadal or Federer etc. it's ridiculous! It'll be nice to know if the best female athletes could win for example the n. 450 male ranked..how could someone beat who is faster ,stronger and equally trained?
furaskin 6 months ago
boys and girls are different why the hell is so hard to understand that none is better or worse, we're just PHYSICALLY DIFFERENTS!!!! ...
marce90r 7 months ago
@marce90r better at what? sports, obviously men.
365to173repubsPWNED 7 months ago
Martina was allowed to hit into the doubles area, which was reduced in size for this match only. If you look at other courts, the area is like twice as wide.
Regardless, Martina might have had a chance if she hadn't produced so many unforced errors.
Corbon440 8 months ago
Just so you know the williams sisters did lose terribly to a 203rd ranked men's player..
RoyalDecapitation 8 months ago 2
people here ranting on how serena and venus would be able to beat anyone on the male tour because "they serve 125 mph" is absolutely retarded.
yes they hit hard, but 125 is an average 1st serve on the male tour. and what about after the serve? i mean come on the williams sisters move like trucks on the court, they would NEVER be able to keep up with the pace of a men's baseline play its just plain stupid to think otherwise.
chrism216 9 months ago 11
what's happened to the double lines? D:
t3b4n22 10 months ago
What sex is Navratilova?
abc1000001 11 months ago
Connors was 40 years old, Navratilova 36 years.
Connors was'nt allowed a second serve. If he missed his first serve it was Navratilova's point. Navratilvao got two serves.
Nuff said
mmike01 11 months ago
conners would win in a tennis match, but i think that navratilova would win in a fight lol. she was quite manly
cain2335 1 year ago
@cain2335 I think she probably was a man at one point. Best friends with Renee Richards.
markisb62 7 months ago
@cain2335 lol
Snauzer67 5 months ago
It's not true to say, as some have here, that the Williams sisters serve as fast as many of the men.
Most men ranked in the top 100 can hit a serve over 130 mph. The fastest women's serve to date is Venus Williams' 130 mph and Sabine Lisicki's 130 mph. No woman has ever served over 130, yet scores of male players do so with ease.
Btw, the fastest men's serve ever was Andy Roddick's 155 mph delivery during a summer tournament.
Vithification 1 year ago
In 1998, at the Australian Open, the #203 ranked man in the world, Karsten Braasch, beat Serena Williams 6-1 and then turned around and beat Venus Williams, 6-2, all while smoking cigarettes and drinking beer during changeovers. (Look it up.)
He played the sisters after they made a comment that they could beat guys ranked outside the top 200.
It may not be politically correct to say this, but the best women tennis players are nowhere near as good as the 10th tier men.
Vithification 1 year ago 8
@Vithification Women have a different body: less strenght, speed, endurance etc. That's why they compete in different categories. A low ranked man is however a man!!!
furaskin 2 months ago
@Vithification They were 16 and 17 years old at the time, important fact
Pirosbor 2 months ago
@Pirosbor He was 31, well out of his prime.
Vesciroth 2 months ago
There are a lot of ignorant comments here. Male humans are physically stronger in general, mainly due to testosterone. That isn't the case in all animal species. For instance, one contemporary winning racehorse is a mare. Being physically strong and fast, though, does not necessarily make for more interesting sport. I have watched a lot more women's tennis over the years, and anyone who thinks talented players like Navratilova are no fun to watch should becoming more open-minded.
superstition222 1 year ago 2
is it me or is the doubles area way smaller here lol
sayuridp 1 year ago
nav rat tuh lover is already a man whats all this talk about battle of the sexes when its 2 dudes playing..
cj397 1 year ago
@cj397 IDIOT
absolutebore 7 months ago
@absolutebore it's true.
cj397 7 months ago
@absolutebore how am i wrong.
cj397 5 months ago
Federer e Nadal batterebbero Serena e Venus, per 6-0 6-0...
joeilbuono80 1 year ago
@joeilbuono80 Non sono necessari Federer e Nadal: il numero 180 del mondo batterebbe Venus 6-0. A wimbledon 2007 servì + forte di loro, ma senzo di profondità, resistenza, tecnica..Non si può paragonare 1 uomo ad 1 donna sul piano atletico. Considera che la Pellegrini con il suo record arriverebbe quasi ultima agli italiani maschili.
furaskin 11 months ago
Piaccia o meno, esistono delle differenze sostanziali che devono per forza essere considerate, e che rendono la femmina fisicamente più debole e più vulnerabile dell'uomo.
Le differenze ormonali tra i due sessi fanno sì che l'uomo medio sia superiore alla donna media in caratteristiche fisiche come forza, potenza, velocità, resistenza, peso, altezza, aggressività.
Queste qualità rendono chiaramente l'uomo eterno vincitore nella lotta.
Piaccia o meno.
joeilbuono80 1 year ago
Oh please... there's no magical thing in us the men that makes us be better players, we just hit harder than women and so we thrash them, but c'mon I enjoy watching women's tennis (at its peak of course with Hingis Mauresmo Williams Seles Davenport Capriati Graf etc not with these useless girls like Ivanovic) as much as I enjoy watching a federer nadal coz this girls make the game entertaining I don't think that any man ever could do better dropshots than Martina Hingis.
DIANAROSS4EVER 1 year ago
@DIANAROSS4EVER
Interestingly, when that old, low ranked guy beat the Williams sisters back in the 90s (after they claimed they could take on any guy outside the top 100), the articles say he used "a befuddlement of spins" and toyed with them, moving them around the court at will.
My feelings on womens tennis are mixed. Yes they can put on a good show... but you can get the same on a local level with men. Not sure where the fairness is. Seems to contradict everything feminism fought for lol.
alin1975 1 year ago
No woman has even bothered to enter prequalifying for a men's ATP event, as far as I am aware, even though they would be permitted to and there would be prizemoney on offer. That's an admission of the difference in ability.
daveyork0 1 year ago
Man has penis...that the answer...(penis rules the world...)
championxeneixe 1 year ago
@championxeneixe haha yea but so does Navratilova
cooldaddy6567 1 year ago
@championxeneixe lol
u just couldnt resist
lazykrnboijr 1 year ago
i agree with jordanjamesx
morningstar000 1 year ago
Venus and Serena in 1999 were only 17 and 16 years old of course you ignore this point! Venus and Serena were only teenaged girls and that German player was a grown man. I am just suggesting that Venus and Serena serve over 125 mph and they can indeed compete with men they are more powerful than people realize.
JordanjamesX 1 year ago
@JordanjamesX I agree with you, they were teenegers and at Wimbledon 2007 Venus served faster than Federer and Nadal. But tennis is also endurance, coordination, reflexes and probably even today serena or Venus could'n win the 300 ranked male player.
furaskin 1 year ago
@furaskin i dont agree the williams already serve faster then most men on the tour! I would put Serena up agains many guys on the tour and she would come out on top
nickelwindow53 1 year ago
@nickelwindow53 As i said Venus could not win the male number 300 , and clearly can't hit as hard as Roddick; what i wrote is that Federer and Nadal at Wimbledon 2007 hit the ball weaker than her, and this isn't an opinion but a fact!
furaskin 1 year ago
It's obvious that a woman can't win a man trained like her. To me the point is: could another woman do better than Martina?
furaskin 1 year ago
Martina was old by then. But, yes... men have a huge physiological advantage of potentially twice the level of available oxygen (or something like that).
superstition2 1 year ago
Even in elite sports it is possible to take things up a fair notch. I love women and the modern players have fabulous bodies. If they could just now combine those magnificent thighs with steffi graf movement, i think they might have a real chance to take it further.
mccluskey 1 year ago
I also disagree I think it depends on the female tennis player if she can beat a man in a match. Navratilova serve is so slow compared to Serena Williams serve. Serena can serve over 120 miles per hour consistently. I think when Serena plays her best she can compete and beat ATP Tour players she is just so talented.
JordanjamesX 1 year ago
@JordanjamesX this is very true i saw Serena on the back courts at this years Australian open, her male hitting partner absolutely slamming down serves as hard as i saw any man hitting the serve in practice and Serena getting it back with interest. If any woman was to take on a man id put my money on Serena on one of her good days, devastating power!
justnatural 1 year ago
@JordanjamesX Anyone who actually thinks that any female player could beat a man ranked in the top thousand is delusional. Venus and Serena were thumped when they tried in 1999 (I think that was the year).
floydmatt987 1 year ago 2
Martina says "It was to have fun" at the end...
Killerpropol 1 year ago
um...at 40 jimmy conners made it to the semifinals of the US open.
rmorte62 1 year ago
gotta love two great men going at it on the tennis court
robertk2007 1 year ago
@robertk2007 lol
ryko26 1 year ago
yes we had a former wta player at our club too, and she wasn't successful at the wta tour but still whipped most of the club men good players. I also think the comment about Chris Evert losing to her brother unfair becuase Chris was a consistent counter puncher not a power player. Once only had to see how she was mauled by Steffi Graf in the later stages of her career to see how power could break down her counter punching game.
justnatural 1 year ago
@justnatural
Actually, Tracy Austin regularly beat her brother who was number 50-100 in the world.
But she was number one then.
I think that Conners, even around 40 was better then any 50-100 player and Martina not a nummber one anymore.
Of course he won.
I think the best women today can compete with ranking 200-300, but most of them would not stand longer then one set.
Today the condition gap is much higher then in the 1980's.
Women should really start to play best of five.
schusterlehrling 1 year ago
well i think it depends on the males serve, if its a clay courter who just gets the serve in top women would rally more and win more points. The williams sisters played a 200-300 ranked player few years ago at aus open who whipped them, but suprise suprise that was Kohlshreiber who is now ranked int he top 30! You also have to consider psychology changes in every match, so one off battle of sexes match one player can be effected by nerves
justnatural 1 year ago
@justnatural
Richard Raskind did not made it far in the Women's singles at the US open.
So we actually HAD a mediocre (he was once Junior top 10 in the USA) male player in a female field.
Conners on the other hand was not mediocre, but a number one.
schusterlehrling 1 year ago
Lol my grandma is better
omarwank 2 years ago
one sport that can match male and female player fairly is CHESS !
well they say chess is a sport..
amirmendes 2 years ago
@amirmendes
Funny that there are so few female Grandmasters, then.
TheEmpiricist 2 years ago
@amirmendes
chess is oldrr as competitive sport then most.
And much harder.
Thes female player ever, Judith Polgar, was about number 5 of the best men.
No other woman ever came near Top 10.
But actually the ratio of male vs. female chess players is 12-1 or even higher in many countries.
So that represents this ratio pretty close.
schusterlehrling 1 year ago
Jan Silva > Serena Williams lmao
Bradin14 2 years ago
When did the match take place?
yajustgotaloveit 2 years ago
Strange match, Martina looks to be playing tentatively here. Not a good match up on more than grounds of sex. Martina was never good at power baseliners such as Graf and Seles, so to pit her against connors still bad. Put a 21yo Graf or Seles in their prime against an aged Connors could have been a different story. Martina maybe would have had more a chance on Grass also, plus her serve would have had to been really working.
justnatural 2 years ago
Graf or Seles at 21 would be absolutely pulverized by Connors at 40, or by any top male professional. This has nothing to do with a specific match-up. Men are so much stronger than women that a decent male club player could hit with the best professional women. Chris Evert (former no 1) was beaten badly by her brother in practice, and he was a happy amateur, nowhere near a ranking.
BashfulBob 1 year ago
Well I tend to disagree. I was just at the Australian open live and watched Serena play. Her serves were going in around 190km an hour, her groundstrokes were vicious.... to say a good male club player could push her playing like that i dont think so.... Plus you should also think mental abilities come into it, not just strength, and also technique..... so if u purely judged it on mental and technique a lot of pro women have it over a lot of pro men
justnatural 1 year ago
We had a former WTA player (albeit on a modest level) play in the amateur league at my club. These guys lost to her most of the time. But it was a rare sight seeing bald men with a beer-belly, and dubious technique, actually challenging, and occasionally beating, a former top female player.
BashfulBob 1 year ago
First of all 40 is not that old, second Connors is one of the greatest male players to have lived, third from this video connors looks like hes playing no different to when he was 25yo! A 19yo Steffi Graf at her peak or a Serena Williams at her peak form would have pushed him a lot more, but he was still a damn fine player at this age, hardly a fair matchup
justnatural 1 year ago
2 douche bags playing each other. How quaint.
RaleighNC306 2 years ago
navratilova... f'ing skank
fungamesss 2 years ago
the question is; What the hell happened to this court ?!! LOL
plstrom 2 years ago 16
it got raped
tvvideos365 2 years ago
@plstrom Connors was allowed only one serve per point and Navratilova was allowed to hit into half the doubles court.
bernhardlanger 1 year ago
Navratilova was allowed to use doubles alley and Connors had only 1 serve in this match. Still, Connors won easily.
oplilium 2 years ago
Wait there is people here who do think Williams serves faster and better than Federer ?
Who the fuck are you kidding ? She is good at putting her feet on the court while serving, that' s right !
Now on a serious matter, this match between Connors and Navratilova was really epic at the time, she was claiming a female could beat a male, and well it's possible only if the said male is not one of the best in the world !
LiveForMyMoment 2 years ago
Well, what she said was that she thought she could beat the number 100 man in the world and that she maybe could beat Harold Solomon (who was top 10 in the world years ago), claims that were ridiculous in and of themselves. The reality is that there are literally thousands of men who could beat the best women. I am a tennis pro (no longer active) and know whereof I speak.
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago
@OutlanderWarrior
Harold Solomon would be too much.
Especially since he was very fit and that is the main set back for a female player.
Number 100? maybe sshe cousl beat that one, but would be hard.
Austin could beat her brother, who was 50-100 when she was no. 1.
Conners, even at 43 was much better then ATP 100.
schusterlehrling 1 year ago 2
@schusterlehrling Actually Tracy Austin said the opposite. Her brother beat her 6-0 regularly. And he was never top 50. The no 500 male player would thrash any woman by whatever score he chose to beat her by. Not politically correct, but factually correct. Even Navratilova said her trainer Mike Estep could beat her in her prime and he was no longer on tour.
iamtman1 1 year ago
@schusterlehrling have another cocktail
greatmya 1 year ago
the number 100 ranked male masters player at stanford
would beat the womens no 1
mccluskey 2 years ago 21
@mccluskey actually i there was a video of the stanford no.1 playing with dementieva and jankovic and he seemed like he was having alot of trouble playing dementieva but i seriously think that clijsters and henin would stand a good chance agaisnt some top male players on tour
wtfjjij 1 year ago
There's a video on here of the Stanford number 1 getting his ass kicked by Jelena Jankovic.
Although it's true, there is no comparison of the athleticism of mens tennis compared to womens.
slutfacedh0ebag 1 year ago
@mccluskey well, scratch that, make it no. 2... serena's too scary to play
FF18Cloud 1 year ago
@mccluskey maybe the number 2, but ain't no way they'd get past Serena Williams
samxyx 9 months ago
@samxyx thats wrong, search for williams vs braasch
Maze501 5 months ago
@mccluskey Try telling that to Serena!
justnatural 5 months ago
women are just inferior to men in general
yellowboy509 2 years ago 2
They should have the male and female #1"s play each other at the end of every year. I think it would be fun to see.
chr1s60 2 years ago 3
oh man i so agree with you, especially when they sometimes would share a photo . i think, damn, they need a BOTS match every year after the US Open .
XxAt0mIcKiTtYxX 2 years ago
Just so you know, there are hundreds of men who can beat the top women 6-0, 6-0. In the above video, Connors had to play with substantial handicap and still won in straight sets. It's nothing new, either. I could give you many examples of no-name men beating top women.
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago 2
why would that be fun. the guy would beat her 6-0 6-0 60 if he chose to every time. How many points would Serena take from Roger? Maybe 2 points a set.
iamtman1 2 years ago 2
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Dependig on te surface...Serena service is stronger than Roger... didn't you know that?
lowhel 2 years ago
Roger can serve faster and more accurately than Serena. Roger could probably beat her left handed.
LastChanceRide 2 years ago 3
are you nuts! Serena's hardest serve is Roger's average one. Fed handles Roddick, and Cilic, and Philipousis, and Karlovich's bombs, and you think he'd have trouble returning Serena's serve. 60 60 till the end of time.
iamtman1 2 years ago 2
Mr misogin you know that won't end like this 60 60...anyway this should be proved in 2003 when Serena said that she could beat the number 100 of the ATP...
lowhel 2 years ago
yeah typical pc lib. Just because i state the obvious truth, you try to label me. I should lie right! Fact is fact. The no 500 male player would thrash Serena. No disrespect to her or any other woman player. But again it's the truth.
iamtman1 2 years ago 3
Serena never said she could beat the no 100 male, because she knows that's absurd. In fact she and sister both played a set each vs the no 110 guy about 4yrs ago. A French guy i forgot his name. They both lost 6-1. And he was supposedly hungover while beating them.
iamtman1 2 years ago
that was a german guy his name was
carten braatsch
rexkommher 2 years ago
you're right! thanks.
iamtman1 2 years ago
Actually, the guy was Karsten Braasch (sp?), a German, and he was about 203 in the world. You are correct in saying that Williams would lose to the number 500 player; in fact, there are literally thousands of men who could beat here (college players, highly ranked juniors, retired pros who are still in shape, etc.).
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago 2
you're right!
iamtman1 2 years ago
Well obviously men have strength as an advantage. If it was purely based on skill and tennis ability then there are certainly many top women out there as talented as the men. How you would handicap for the power/ strenght difference though would be hard.
justnatural 2 years ago
Not exactly. First, movement (speed and quickness, and there is a distinction between the two) is the biggest difference between the sexes. Strength comes in second to it, although, of course, part of the reason why the men move better is their greater strength. Second, it's not really true that the women are as skilled. I used to play tennis professionally and teach it for many years, and I can tell you that the skill advantage men enjoy is not negligible.
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago
hahahahahah Serena's serve in any way bette than Fed's? xD waht r u smokin xp Federer's serve is by far better than that of Serena's. Seen the amount of aces he gets? and seen his top speed yet? no? well lets just say it's up ther with A-Rod
SageNarutoUzumaki 2 years ago
now hes not up to speed with At wimbeldon everytime his first serve would go in he had a 50% chance of it being an ace and all without having to scream at the top of his lungs like serena.
moffettman02 2 years ago
eh eh.. are you 4 real... have you ever seen tennis?
WTF !!!
plstrom 2 years ago
se martina avesse avuto la forza di un uomo, connors sarebbe stato surclassato....
buffalmacco76 2 years ago
a girly two hander?
Deadbox146 2 years ago
Is there a longer version of this? I would love to see more. The quality is great.
ParkParkParkPark 2 years ago
its pretty wierd that the woman is playing a manly one-handed backhand and the man is playing a girly two-hander
mitroveca 2 years ago
im a girl and i do a one handed...ur point being???
countrymusic151 2 years ago
you dont get the point do you? the point is that the one-hander is a predominantly a mens shot (cause many men play it) and the two-hander is womens(cause about 1% play 1hbh) and here the roles are reversed
mitroveca 2 years ago
well the terms "manly" and "girly" can be taken the wrong way, don't you think? anyway, no hard feelings for me correcting your choice of words =]
countrymusic151 2 years ago
well you could say i mean it also in the wrong way. cause i dont like the two-hander i like to watch one-handers and id love to see more men with one-handers.
mitroveca 2 years ago
these games are so weird...who cares!..well maybe the women, l don't
no288 2 years ago
connors joke...
paladinodimina11 2 years ago
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I don't think this is battle of sexes..........com'on people, everyone knew Martina is not really a girl, she is man, she is actually stronger than most of male players of her time..........so Jimmy was playing against a man in a woman's body...........that's all.
moderndesignworks 2 years ago
Well said, I agree.
Connors won 7:5 6:2 here, despite he had only one serve and he had to cover a bigger area of the court.
SSJPeter 2 years ago
LOL..............right on!
obone2008 2 years ago
In 2003 and 2008, Tennis Week ran features identifying the greatest women tennis players of all time by objectively comparing their career statistics. The result?
"The statistics don't lie: when you look at Navratilova's career record of 167 titles, 18 Grand Slam singles titles and an incredible domination of women's tennis over a five-year period, you have to conclude Martina Navratilova is the greatest women player of the Open Era."
- 'The Best of the Best', Tennis Week
Nicklas4500 2 years ago
All you silly people don't understand that it's all relative. Relative to the genders.
The ATP and WTA tours are entertaining and inspiring. Who gives a flying fuck about anything more than that?
megadethly 2 years ago
Well, actually, no, it's not relative. Then men can beat the women easily. It can be and has been quantified.
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago 4
I have to agree with Outlander. If they were to take the hardest female hitters; Serena, Venus, Sharapova. They would all get their ass handed to them by guys ranked in the 100's. John Isner (ATP rank 114) for instance, has a rediculous serve that they can't handle. The men hit with a great deal more pace and they use a more intense strategy that puts more pressure on their opponents to win.
FinalFan0 2 years ago 3
Connors doesn't hit as hard as some of the women of his time : Monica Seles, Steffi Graf, Lyndsay Davenport.......He definitely runs faster than them, though.
trent8002003 2 years ago
Davenport started her career long after Connors retired...
neibaf3 2 years ago
Well, not quite. Lindsay turned pro in 1989. Connors still made the now famous miraculous run to the semi finals of the US open in 1991 at the age of 39. Connors still played a full schedule in 1991.
trent8002003 2 years ago
I wouldn't say he didn't hit as hard. Don't judge based on this match, because Connors wasn't playing his game here. While he did win this (even with the handicap), a tennis pro friend of mine who watch the match said that Connors was VERY nervous. He played terribly, really. Should have actually won about 6-2, 6-1.
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago
Not just this match. I've watched plenty of Connors and then I've watched plenty of later generation women. I honestly feel the women, esp the really current ones like the williams, sharapova, safina truly do hit even harder than the men in 70's or 80's. Not just Connors. But even those men would beat today's women because of suprior movement.
trent8002003 2 years ago
I actually might agree with you there. Perhaps not Connors, but the pace definitely was a lot slower in the 70s. And you prove that you understand the game by mentioning that the men's superior movement would still enable them to win easily. Movement is the single biggest difference between the sexes in tennis (not the serve, as laymen tend to believe).
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago
Thanks. Even in today's power game, movement is still of paramount importance. Or perhaps even because of the power game, players all need to move even faster and more efficiently to catch up to their opponents' shots.
trent8002003 2 years ago
Movement is always a huge factor, but your 2nd comment more correct. The only time movement wouldn't be a factor is if you were hitting so slowly that any ambulatory person could reach the ball. But as the velocity increases, you have to be faster and faster to be in a position from which you can hit a controlled shot (if your positioning is compromised, so will your control be). This is why men have a big advantage. Because they're quicker, they can be in good position for a higher % of shots.
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago
Today the womans game is so boring to watch. Its all about power and hitting from the baseline as hard as you can. Theres no more variety. They all have the same technique, virtually one in the womans game has a single handed backhand... They suck at vollying too.
AceGuitarR7 2 years ago 4
yeah, because we have better racquets now. technology has improved and, therefore, we can relatively hit harder.
spxo 2 years ago
Equipment bro, you think your girls would hit it harder with the equip they played with?
conndogg79 2 years ago
Not sure he runs as fast as Steffi could as she was Olympic qualifying time for the 800m!! Though I still think at their respective peaks he would probably have won...
Menexpert 2 years ago
You may have a pt with Steffi. But Connors probably would still top Steffi in the reflex department. Men in most cases have greater motor response than women.
trent8002003 2 years ago
That's irrelevant. Movement on the court is a specific skill, and all the pros have the proper technique where that's concerned. The men are significantly faster than the women across the board. And probably? Connors would have beaten her 6-0,6-0.
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago
Erm chill out man! All this banter is just a bit of fun.
Menexpert 2 years ago
Well, that's interesting. So, your way of dealing with error is to play it off as if you're just talking tongue in cheek. I don't know, but a real man admits error and appreciates someone who helps him to become more knowledgeable (I am a tennis pro, so I do know whereof I speak).
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago
Oh mighty tennis pro(of what number in the world?!!) Get a life and go out and hit a few more balls and bother me no more. Haha...
Menexpert 2 years ago
Said like a true little weasel.
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago
a so called tennis pro who has to resort to name calling. How old are you?!! I can't be bothered to answer a child anymore....
Menexpert 2 years ago
Said like a true little weasel.
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago
hahaha amen!
Peteypooooo 2 years ago
Connors was playing at 50% of his strenght.
Pitonto 2 years ago
Sharapova just played a practise match against an ATP Top 200 pro who recently won a set against del Potro, Sharapova won 6-2 6-1
DIANAROSS4EVER 2 years ago
a few years ago venus and serena played bagston brasch, who never made the top 150 and they lost 6-2,6-1. he said he spent the whole night in a bar drinking whiskey and chain smoking. i doubt sharapova beat anyone considering she can barely play doubles right now.
tlp26atx 2 years ago
nadal would slaugher these mugs!
stealthpakfa 2 years ago
I think it's just an incredible statement by Navratilova being out thereregardless of the result.
hrhsam 2 years ago
It's not incredible. She was given a fairly substantial handicap.
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago
I'm saying it's incredible she's out there, despite the odds. I've trained at academy myself, so I know the disparities that exist.
hrhsam 2 years ago
何も引退して久しいコナーズと対戦しなくても、ナブラチロワは世界一の女子アスリートですよね。２人とも尊敬出来る人達です。
soratokaminari 2 years ago
I suspect the biggest difference between the boys and the girls is not so much how well they hit the ball, but their mobility and reach on the court. Lots of the top girls hit the ball really well but they are comparatively slower in moving to the ball.
MARKBPHARM 2 years ago 2
Sexism sucks. McEnroe, who is a "pro" has said a few things such as Lindsay Davenport in 2005 was the cleanest striker of the ball man or woman that he had ever seen. Also he said Henin's backhand is the best single handed backhand he has seen man or woman. Not that McEnroe knows anything about tennis... (winner of 7 slams, etc etc)
Peteypooooo 2 years ago
No-one is being sexist here (well, maybe a couple of assholes, but). As I wrote, the girl I played against has a better technique than I (she's also a coach). And she's beautiful, intelligent etc. I just win. Life sucks.
carlsNME 2 years ago
McEnroe also said, when asked about playing Navratilova, that he'd annihilate her. He also said, when about 43, that he and the other Senior Tour players could easily beat the women, which was, of course, true. The other comments have to, again, be placed in context and perspective. This is something that you, as a layman, are obviously incapable of doing.
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago
You have missed the entire point of what I am saying. In ALL of my posts I have NEVER said a woman could beat a man. Please copy and paste where I have said that? I said they can hit the ball as well as men. On the McEnroe front you have been uncapable of stating contrary to what I said such as Davenport hitting the ball cleaner than men and Henin having the best backhand man or woman.
Peteypooooo 2 years ago
henin is probably the only womans player who i was genuinly interested to watch. her backhand was good but best ever.... no.
AceGuitarR7 2 years ago
Well McEnroe MIGHT just know a little better than you or I. Oh well
Its as good as any of the mens full stop.
Peteypooooo 2 years ago
Oh well I would consider John Mcenroe better authority on the subject of backhands than you. oh well
Peteypooooo 2 years ago
Last week I played against a girl with a higher ranking (say if I played a guy ranked like her, losing 62 62 would be a "victory"), 15 yrs younger and with a better technique (I'd kill for her forehand volley!). I won quite easily, serving only second balls cause she couldn't handle (see...) my best serve and I'm just 5-11, not Ivo Karlovic. By the way, Jim COURIER.
carlsNME 2 years ago
You're correct about the spelling. My memory did fail me, and I suppose I have egg on my face because I corrected the other man's spelling. Nevertheless, the substance of what I said was correct. It's laughable to think that Courier would have been afraid of Seles.
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago
Not when they were younger. Seles could hit winners from anywhere, so the young kids (male) were reluctant to play against her.
Peteypooooo 2 years ago
Petey, again, you don't understand the profound gap between the men and women. The men can literally beat the women 6-0, 6-0. Unless you understand that, you cannot possibly assess these matters properly. As an example, I looked up the Courier quote, and it does exist, but you misconstrued it. he was asked to hit with Seles when she was 12 and he 15, and was trying to practice. Despite hitting the ball to her (which is what you do when rallying), she was trying to bang winners. He said, cont.
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago
Show your source please so we can all read this
Peteypooooo 2 years ago
Nice try. You didn't provide the source when I asked. Why should I spoon feed it to you? Find it yourself.
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago
Ooo touched a nerve there? Love it when someone is so comprehensively denied.
Which source would you like? You have never asked? I will gladly provide any you would like.
p.s. only a sentence responce. You have been shot down. Game over matey
Peteypooooo 2 years ago
Oh and looking at your profile information, you are 29. You clearly have made a name for yourself on the ATP at such a "young" age. Forgive my "layperson" perspective, but if a player is 29 and hasn't gotten to the top 100 isn't your career considered "failed"? Unless we are talking about having the longevity of say Agassi or Connors you really are a force to be reckoned with or you are a late developer, perhaps being a "pro" such as yourself is not the best career move.
Peteypooooo 2 years ago
Keep it coming Peteypooo. Bjornsiborgsi is the dumbfuck, sexist one. So sexist that he even puts the "worst" club players over Seles or Navaratilova. He's probably the one who got a bad whipping from a woman tennis player and thus, the sexist remarks.
topjazz69 2 years ago
haha thanks. Beautifully written!!
Peteypooooo 2 years ago
hey man, don't waste your breath on peteypooooo. SHE obviously is a dumbfuck. i've been reading your banter. any chick who says navrtl. or seles can take on a guy, any guy on the circuit, doesn't know shit about tennis. they will lose to the worst club player, never mind the pros
bjornsiborgsi 2 years ago
exactly! hell i beat mary pierce and chanda rubin in straight sets when I was in college and they were top 10 in the world. it's a totally different game. no woman pro could ever beat a man pro. even if he was ranked outside the top 500
tlp26atx 2 years ago
so are you saying that venus williams could not beat a man ranked say 848 in the world?
caliboyfromphilly 2 years ago
You're correct. I used to be a tennis pro myself, so I understand this well. Unfortunately, most of these people know nothing about tennis and simply believe the politically-correct, feminist hype.
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago 2
He said, "OK, I'm impressed, now let's practice." She wouldn't, so he walked off in disgust and said he wasn't going to be a guinea pig. Much different than how you characterized it. Understand that when good players practice, they engage in rallies, hitting the ball to each other. It's also what "drilling" often amounts to. To not do so is considered a breach of etiquette, and it's rare for someone to do what Seles did. Thus, Courier's response was understandable and not driven by fear.
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago
With regards to Navratilova, her volleys are better than most men, her half volley is one of the best man or woman the game has ever seen. Obviously at her peak she would not win a game off a man. For someone with such "authority" your arguments are clearly flawed. You argue with the premise I am saying women could beat men... sorry, never said that. However in patches, they can hit the ball almost as hard as men, or with as much skill; obviously not the consistancy men can.
Peteypooooo 2 years ago
You know very little about the game, pal. Look, if you want to play for money, let me know. Then you'll find out who you're talking to. You're a layman who has a very dangerous thing: a little knowledge.
OutlanderWarrior 2 years ago
Actually I know a lot about tennis. You're hardly the oracle yourself. Lay person? Think of another term, and in fact, another argument to bring to the table as you have created an argument when there was not one there.
Ooo I am scared of someone who is on youtube? Money on the table. I hope your tennis is as entertaining to watch as your flawed critique. I would gladly pay to see that
Peteypooooo 2 years ago
I agree with you on Navratilova, did you know that women showed more resistance than men regarding space exploration physical tests?it was a big surprise most of the selected women were test pilot, After kennedy died the project was totally canceled.now I think some women could match men in tennis for a short time but not on the long run a 5 set but who knows..maybe will some supergirl prove us wrong..))
darrin1701 2 years ago
In the 80s Chris Evert said she practic