Of course the irony of Mossad is that they use terrorism and assassination to combat terrorism and assassination. Not really a good example to show the world. See if they really were morally good, as Israel claims they are compared to their Arab terrorist counter parts. They would arrest them and charge them through a justice system. But, of course they aren't and just kill them the same way their counter parts do.
It's more like, terrorists should be dealt with legally when possible, but hey, if it's not... As long as it's is the right guy who ending up electrocuted in the bath tub next to his hair dryer - I see little to no reason to losing sleep over his death.
@knutgordon Problem is that it's not always the right guy. And murdering others in a horrible manner only generates motives of revenge. Your foolish to think this will stop terrorism. It only encourages more violence on both sides.
That is all and well under normal circumstances, but Israel and Hamas are effectively at war with each other and neither will back off or are short of motives for revenge, so that principle go askew a little. I prefer to see people arrested and dealt with in the court system but I can accept sometimes it's neither possible nor the right thing to do. You live by the sword etc.
Terrorists make it their business to violate every canon of civilized warfare - by doing that, they place themselves beyond the normal protection civilization normally reserves to an enemy. Mahmouds, active in terrorism and illegal arms trafficking to terrorists , exit can easily be justified as self defense towards a imminent danger to public's safety, and thereof saving lives of innocents. One more scumbag dead ... another message sent to people like him that there is no safe heaven
@knutgordon That is the same belief they hold as well. Like I said, there is no moral superiority in this war. Both sides are using terror as a weapon.
Apples and oranges. Mossad as a whole do not use terrorist tactics. What they do are surgically and quietly eliminating high value combatant targets. They don't blow themselves up on buses, in cafes, or at street corners with the sole purpose of killing as many civilians as possible. And yes the targeted killings of key terrorists that are untouchable by legal procedures have indeed saved many innocent lives over the years. Thats the main point, its called prevention and it works.
The citizens of Israel would presumably disagree with that statement. Get real. Mossad and their other security originations are up against very real terror threats on a daily basis, they manage to foil most of these threats one way or another, and have been doing it for a number of years. They try to control a very volatile and hostile situation and need to make difficult, unpopular and cold impassionate decisions when necessary. In this case they were left two options …...….
..….....Grip the chance of killing Mahmoud in Dubai, likely in search of more stuff that goes KABOM – or let the bastard, leading an all out genocidal war against civilians, deeply involved in carrying out terror attacks and brainwashing kids into comitting sucidal acts of terror, continue to carry out his business. There was in practice be no third or fourth options: It set the public outcry of unlawful killing, lack of ethics, and what’s not in the chosen option in some needed perspective.
Hamas indeed believe so, including those of them committed in Gaza itself. As far as the deceased terrorist goes: Kudos to whomever strangulated him. Good job.
Actually not, killing a none combatant is a career killer for Mossad field agent. They have even been known to express sorrow toward, and pay compensation to, the deceased guys family afterward in such rare cases. It is obviously not the case in their last (publicly known) assassination as the strangled guy most defiantly had it coming.
@knutgordon The Lavon affair was Israel's attempt to kill innocents and commit a false flag operation. Terrorism is still terrorism, even if it's done with deception.
The Lavon affair -misguided and silly as it was - was a huge scandal at the time that caused the resignation of a number of people, including the Israeli prime minister. It took place in the early 1950’s, can we please move on? The most basic logic would tell us that Israel in the more recent decades does not need to “"stage" acts of terror, simply because the other side is working overtime to produce the real thing.............
...........Back to topic: Israel has a policy of targeted killing of key terrorists that cannot be captured and brought to justice; the aim is to disrupt the leadership of said terrorist organizations by forcing the targets to constantly take evasive measures, thus disruption occurs whether or not a target is actually taken out. Admittedly¬, there is an element of revenge in that policy, but hey, this is the Middle East. In any event revenge is of secondary importance (to Israel).
@knutgordon The Lavon affair shows the true nature of Israel and Mossad. They deceive the world into believing they are the good guys. But under the surface they are as equal as terrorists as Hamas. In Operation Warth of God. Some were killed who were not even involved in the Munich massacre or in terrorism at all. Israel used the Munich massacre a excuse to murder others. Just like Hamas would of done.
With all its great success that is known (and likely much more that is unknown) Mossad have had its share of blunders and mistakes during the years. They did indeed screw up big time in a rather unprofessional way when they gunned down a waiter in the streets of Norway after mistakenly identified him as a key Black September member……..
……..That’s about it; the reaming known body counts in this assassination campaign were far from innocent. As the whole operation Wrath of God was a quite successfully in terms of both hunting down and kill those the Israelis had deemed responsible for the Munich massacre as well as striking fear into the heart of the PLO and destroying their safe heaven and terror network in Europe.
@knutgordon Yes, it worked compelely, and there has never been another attack ever on Israel after the operation! All Palestinians are obedient and all Arabs never go against Israel again! There is not a double standard for Israel!
It was never expected archive such completly unreleastic effects. It did however made Black September crripled and incapable of carrying out another operation of the magnitude of the Munich massacre, contributed to the creation of the belief that Israel was capable of striking anywhere and anytime, caused some of the less radical Arab governments to begin putting pressure on Palestinians to behave, and made a few goverments think twice abaut letting PLO operate from their territory.
@knutgordon Yes the PLO can't launch another attack because they are afraid. It's not because they have chosen a new direction in their movement by attempting to conduct their matters in a more peaceful manner such as bringing attention to their matter using the international assembly at the UN. No, that's not why they are doing it, they are doing it because they are afraid. WOW, YOU ARE SO CORRECT!
This operation was not meant to solve the Palestinian problem, bring peace to the Middle East, put an end to the terror there, or any such unrealistic effects. Mossad hunted down Black September in order to revenge the massacre and to castrate and eventually destroy the before mention terror network - heavily used as a tool for PLO to carry out terror acts against Israeli targets outside the Middle East. For all practical purposes they succeeded with this.
@knutgordon They didn't succeed in anything, PLO is gonna organize another Intifada if they wanted. I believe PLO is trying to obtain peace instead. However, the Israeli's don't want peace, they just want to exterminate with justified reasons.
I doubt PLO, these days a shadow of what they were in their glory days, can afford or want a repeat of the disaster that was the second intifada. A somewhat hostile and rivaling group called Hamas would be the beneficiary of the increasing instability, destruction and violence thereof. I have to assume that the Fatah leadership is rather cognizant of this, and not to keen on jeopardize what remain of their power base nor risk turning the relative calm Vest Bank into Gaza II.
Peace is not just the absence of (open) war. Do the Palestinians really seek a peace treaty? Hamas most certainly doesn't, and they are quite open and honest about it. Fatah? Both unwilling and unable to carry out real peace negotiations it seems. I'd bet if one plumbed the heart of Abbas he would be in favor of pragmatic peace treaty and discard bombastic demands and preconditions that he know is unattainable in order to archive it……………
………..But he can't. He can't because Hamas and Co exists and have plenty of Palestinians behind them. He can't because the Palestinian authorities he repentsents can't be put in the position of betraying the hollow promises and slogans they made to Palestine people over the years. So the charade of "peace process talks” continues this year as it have done for many years in the past. In reality it is little more than a masqueraded long-term peace recess.
@Sun6Tzu PLO are killers and hate to such a degree that they willingly sacrifice their children. Even a rat will protect it's young but not Palestinians!
@DrXoz The Arabs are born killers taught how to blow up women and children including their own. How do you deal with animals like these bent on world domination thru Islam?
@jeffsor47 Ask why the suicide bombers do this! Everyone will give the same answer which is because they took my Mom or my Dad or in most cases both of them! Tell me how many suicide bombers were their before Usa and israel infered?
@DrXoz Would you send your brother , sister or children in to blow themselves up? They're animals and if you agree with them I guess that makes you one too.
I agree, they would have planned this for some time and also they successfully got out of Dubai by flying to different destinations around the world. I would have suspect that the agents involved are all now back in Israel.
Israel Is a TERRORIST STATE !! Period
LostFREEDOM 2 weeks ago
They killed him because he had the brains he was smart and Israel cant have a smart Palestinian leader
Kfurqasem 1 month ago
@Kfurqasem No such thing as a smart Palestinian leader....dumbnuts!
jeffsor47 3 weeks ago
Of course the irony of Mossad is that they use terrorism and assassination to combat terrorism and assassination. Not really a good example to show the world. See if they really were morally good, as Israel claims they are compared to their Arab terrorist counter parts. They would arrest them and charge them through a justice system. But, of course they aren't and just kill them the same way their counter parts do.
Sun6Tzu 7 months ago
@Sun6Tzu
It's more like, terrorists should be dealt with legally when possible, but hey, if it's not... As long as it's is the right guy who ending up electrocuted in the bath tub next to his hair dryer - I see little to no reason to losing sleep over his death.
knutgordon 5 months ago
@knutgordon Problem is that it's not always the right guy. And murdering others in a horrible manner only generates motives of revenge. Your foolish to think this will stop terrorism. It only encourages more violence on both sides.
Sun6Tzu 5 months ago
@Sun6Tzu
That is all and well under normal circumstances, but Israel and Hamas are effectively at war with each other and neither will back off or are short of motives for revenge, so that principle go askew a little. I prefer to see people arrested and dealt with in the court system but I can accept sometimes it's neither possible nor the right thing to do. You live by the sword etc.
knutgordon 5 months ago
@knutgordon There is no moral superiority in this case, Mossad and Hamas are equal in terms of both being terrorists.
Sun6Tzu 5 months ago
@Sun6Tzu
Terrorists make it their business to violate every canon of civilized warfare - by doing that, they place themselves beyond the normal protection civilization normally reserves to an enemy. Mahmouds, active in terrorism and illegal arms trafficking to terrorists , exit can easily be justified as self defense towards a imminent danger to public's safety, and thereof saving lives of innocents. One more scumbag dead ... another message sent to people like him that there is no safe heaven
knutgordon 5 months ago
@knutgordon That is the same belief they hold as well. Like I said, there is no moral superiority in this war. Both sides are using terror as a weapon.
Sun6Tzu 5 months ago
@Sun6Tzu
Apples and oranges. Mossad as a whole do not use terrorist tactics. What they do are surgically and quietly eliminating high value combatant targets. They don't blow themselves up on buses, in cafes, or at street corners with the sole purpose of killing as many civilians as possible. And yes the targeted killings of key terrorists that are untouchable by legal procedures have indeed saved many innocent lives over the years. Thats the main point, its called prevention and it works.
knutgordon 5 months ago
@knutgordon I disagree, it hasn't saved any lives. It's only taken lives.
Sun6Tzu 5 months ago
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knutgordon 5 months ago
@Sun6Tzu
The citizens of Israel would presumably disagree with that statement. Get real. Mossad and their other security originations are up against very real terror threats on a daily basis, they manage to foil most of these threats one way or another, and have been doing it for a number of years. They try to control a very volatile and hostile situation and need to make difficult, unpopular and cold impassionate decisions when necessary. In this case they were left two options …...….
knutgordon 5 months ago
..….....Grip the chance of killing Mahmoud in Dubai, likely in search of more stuff that goes KABOM – or let the bastard, leading an all out genocidal war against civilians, deeply involved in carrying out terror attacks and brainwashing kids into comitting sucidal acts of terror, continue to carry out his business. There was in practice be no third or fourth options: It set the public outcry of unlawful killing, lack of ethics, and what’s not in the chosen option in some needed perspective.
knutgordon 5 months ago
@knutgordon Terrorists believe every murder they commit is justified.
Sun6Tzu 5 months ago
@Sun6Tzu
Hamas indeed believe so, including those of them committed in Gaza itself. As far as the deceased terrorist goes: Kudos to whomever strangulated him. Good job.
knutgordon 5 months ago
@knutgordon Mossad believes every murder they commit is justified.
Sun6Tzu 5 months ago
@Sun6Tzu
Actually not, killing a none combatant is a career killer for Mossad field agent. They have even been known to express sorrow toward, and pay compensation to, the deceased guys family afterward in such rare cases. It is obviously not the case in their last (publicly known) assassination as the strangled guy most defiantly had it coming.
knutgordon 5 months ago
@knutgordon The Lavon affair was Israel's attempt to kill innocents and commit a false flag operation. Terrorism is still terrorism, even if it's done with deception.
Sun6Tzu 5 months ago
@Sun6Tzu
The Lavon affair -misguided and silly as it was - was a huge scandal at the time that caused the resignation of a number of people, including the Israeli prime minister. It took place in the early 1950’s, can we please move on? The most basic logic would tell us that Israel in the more recent decades does not need to “"stage" acts of terror, simply because the other side is working overtime to produce the real thing.............
knutgordon 5 months ago
...........Back to topic: Israel has a policy of targeted killing of key terrorists that cannot be captured and brought to justice; the aim is to disrupt the leadership of said terrorist organizations by forcing the targets to constantly take evasive measures, thus disruption occurs whether or not a target is actually taken out. Admittedly¬, there is an element of revenge in that policy, but hey, this is the Middle East. In any event revenge is of secondary importance (to Israel).
knutgordon 5 months ago
@knutgordon The Lavon affair shows the true nature of Israel and Mossad. They deceive the world into believing they are the good guys. But under the surface they are as equal as terrorists as Hamas. In Operation Warth of God. Some were killed who were not even involved in the Munich massacre or in terrorism at all. Israel used the Munich massacre a excuse to murder others. Just like Hamas would of done.
Sun6Tzu 5 months ago
@Sun6Tzu
With all its great success that is known (and likely much more that is unknown) Mossad have had its share of blunders and mistakes during the years. They did indeed screw up big time in a rather unprofessional way when they gunned down a waiter in the streets of Norway after mistakenly identified him as a key Black September member……..
knutgordon 5 months ago
@knutgordon Oh, but it's okay. It's just Israel, all is forgiven. BUT IF IT WAS HAMAS, WE MUST HATE THEM!
Sun6Tzu 5 months ago
……..That’s about it; the reaming known body counts in this assassination campaign were far from innocent. As the whole operation Wrath of God was a quite successfully in terms of both hunting down and kill those the Israelis had deemed responsible for the Munich massacre as well as striking fear into the heart of the PLO and destroying their safe heaven and terror network in Europe.
knutgordon 5 months ago
@knutgordon Yes, it worked compelely, and there has never been another attack ever on Israel after the operation! All Palestinians are obedient and all Arabs never go against Israel again! There is not a double standard for Israel!
Sun6Tzu 5 months ago
@Sun6Tzu
It was never expected archive such completly unreleastic effects. It did however made Black September crripled and incapable of carrying out another operation of the magnitude of the Munich massacre, contributed to the creation of the belief that Israel was capable of striking anywhere and anytime, caused some of the less radical Arab governments to begin putting pressure on Palestinians to behave, and made a few goverments think twice abaut letting PLO operate from their territory.
knutgordon 5 months ago
@knutgordon Yes the PLO can't launch another attack because they are afraid. It's not because they have chosen a new direction in their movement by attempting to conduct their matters in a more peaceful manner such as bringing attention to their matter using the international assembly at the UN. No, that's not why they are doing it, they are doing it because they are afraid. WOW, YOU ARE SO CORRECT!
Sun6Tzu 5 months ago
@Sun6Tzu
This operation was not meant to solve the Palestinian problem, bring peace to the Middle East, put an end to the terror there, or any such unrealistic effects. Mossad hunted down Black September in order to revenge the massacre and to castrate and eventually destroy the before mention terror network - heavily used as a tool for PLO to carry out terror acts against Israeli targets outside the Middle East. For all practical purposes they succeeded with this.
knutgordon 5 months ago
@knutgordon They didn't succeed in anything, PLO is gonna organize another Intifada if they wanted. I believe PLO is trying to obtain peace instead. However, the Israeli's don't want peace, they just want to exterminate with justified reasons.
Sun6Tzu 5 months ago
@Sun6Tzu
I doubt PLO, these days a shadow of what they were in their glory days, can afford or want a repeat of the disaster that was the second intifada. A somewhat hostile and rivaling group called Hamas would be the beneficiary of the increasing instability, destruction and violence thereof. I have to assume that the Fatah leadership is rather cognizant of this, and not to keen on jeopardize what remain of their power base nor risk turning the relative calm Vest Bank into Gaza II.
knutgordon 4 months ago
@knutgordon Fatah is approaching by means of peace, if they fail. Then who can blame Hamas for choosing violence as their path of means?
Sun6Tzu 4 months ago
@Sun6Tzu
Peace is not just the absence of (open) war. Do the Palestinians really seek a peace treaty? Hamas most certainly doesn't, and they are quite open and honest about it. Fatah? Both unwilling and unable to carry out real peace negotiations it seems. I'd bet if one plumbed the heart of Abbas he would be in favor of pragmatic peace treaty and discard bombastic demands and preconditions that he know is unattainable in order to archive it……………
knutgordon 4 months ago
………..But he can't. He can't because Hamas and Co exists and have plenty of Palestinians behind them. He can't because the Palestinian authorities he repentsents can't be put in the position of betraying the hollow promises and slogans they made to Palestine people over the years. So the charade of "peace process talks” continues this year as it have done for many years in the past. In reality it is little more than a masqueraded long-term peace recess.
knutgordon 4 months ago
@Sun6Tzu PLO are killers and hate to such a degree that they willingly sacrifice their children. Even a rat will protect it's young but not Palestinians!
jeffsor47 2 months ago
@jeffsor47 Both sides have killed. Co-existence requires both sides to work together. There is too much hatred on both sides.
Sun6Tzu 2 months ago
@jeffsor47 Most of the children on the street are orphans thanks because of israel!
DrXoz 3 weeks ago
@DrXoz The Arabs are born killers taught how to blow up women and children including their own. How do you deal with animals like these bent on world domination thru Islam?
jeffsor47 3 weeks ago
@jeffsor47 Ask why the suicide bombers do this! Everyone will give the same answer which is because they took my Mom or my Dad or in most cases both of them! Tell me how many suicide bombers were their before Usa and israel infered?
DrXoz 3 weeks ago
@DrXoz Would you send your brother , sister or children in to blow themselves up? They're animals and if you agree with them I guess that makes you one too.
jeffsor47 3 weeks ago
@jeffsor47 No I wouldt, I would probably blow my self up killing those who took my brother and sister
DrXoz 1 week ago
Those rats (jews) are very smart....
xabio2520 8 months ago
why they are not punished????
SexYManAliVe2010 1 year ago
@SexYManAliVe2010
they should be punished for killing a terrorist? and try proving they did it
RNRYALUMNI 1 year ago
They will never catch these people, i bet this operation was YEARS in the planning. They definitely knew about the surveillance cameras.
One less murderous Islamic terrorist in our midst.
trippintonk 2 years ago 3
I agree, they would have planned this for some time and also they successfully got out of Dubai by flying to different destinations around the world. I would have suspect that the agents involved are all now back in Israel.
theworldvideos1 2 years ago
Israel is doomed! We're waking up!
robertd1253 2 years ago
LOL Isreal is powerful as ever .
Iran is next .
slLLyhumans 2 years ago 3
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@robertd1253
"Israel is doomed! We're waking up!"
Hahahah. u wish. Israel isnt going anywhere. You are.
PandemicMadness 1 year ago
fuck these zionist fucks. They must be hanged. Mossad is the #1 terrorist.
shagenchik 2 years ago
Kill the aRAB muslim terrorist where ever they raise their ugly islamic heads..
lestmbly 2 years ago
@shagenchik yAHOOOO! GREAT JOB MOSSAD!!!!! GREAT JOB!!!! MORE MORE MORE!!!!!!!!!!
caligula212 1 year ago
i thought fake passports were thing of past!!
noti420 2 years ago
Its quite easy for intelligence agencies to get fake passports, based on people who are alive.
theworldvideos1 2 years ago