The blood of Jesus absolutely regenerates, but what puts us into Jesus? The Bible says that those who are baptized into Jesus clothe themselves with Jesus. To say that baptism regenerates is obviously wrong, but to say that baptism has nothing to do with faith or existing IN Jesus is just as wrong.
These scripture state the requirements for remission of sins: Matt 26:28 the blood of Jesus; Mk 1:4/Lu 3:3 Repentance; Acts 10:43 Belief; Rom 3:25 Faith; Acts 2:38 Repentance & baptism in Jesus name is for the remission of sins.
The Blood-Mat 26:28 (says for what sake was His blood to be shed, what was the purpose);Repentance-Mar 1:4, Luk 3:3 (says for what sake did he preach the baptism of repentance, preparing the way of the Lord);Belief- Act 10:43 (says who will receive the remission of sins);Rom 3:25 (says how sinners are propitiated and why);Baptism-Act 2:38 (says into what those pricked in their hearts would be baptized into and how to receive the Holy Ghost)
Instead of placing an opinion of what the scripture says how about putting the literal quote there? The blood of Jesus was shed for the remission of sins. Repentance is for the remission of sins. Belief is for the remission of sins. Baptism in Jesus name is for the remission of sins. Baptism in Jesus name washes away our sins & places us in the body of Christ.
I didn't say those things, scripture states clearly just as i quoted. Water baptism does not save? 1 Pet 3:21 "..baptism doth also now save us.." U're in error, tulip. Rom 11:29 has nothing to do w/the discussion nor does your personal opinion in defining consequence or cause & u can't even find actual scripture that supports it. Quote scripture & preach w/it not against it.
Rinn Said: "Baptism in Jesus name is for the remission of sins"
A1) Water Baptism does not save. We are saved prior to Baptism:
Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
A2) When the scripture writers wrote "Baptized in jesus Name" - they were referring to the authority of Jesus..not a literal baptismal formula. Christ's baptismal formula:
Scripture states that we are to be "..baptized in Jesus for the remission of sins.." Titus was written AFTER Acts. Notice Titus 3:5 says "..by the washing of regeneration.." sigh. Scripture states "..baptized in Jesus name.." & u say "authority" which means the translators got it wrong, therefore the bible is in error & fallible. Jesus name baptism is the literal wording used. The same could be said of Matt 28:19 "it means authority". If u're not scared of Jesus name baptism then go try it.
No - scriptures does not state that the baptismal formula is to be done in the literal words of "In Jesus Name". The literal baptismal formula is in Matt28:19 as Jesus commanded. Please produce one verse where anyone literally says "I baptize you in Jesus name". You wont find a single one .
Washing of regeneration - This is not water baptism. This is a spiritual washing of regeneration (sigh). The first part of Titus 3:5 says:
"Not by works of righteousness which we have done"
The literal fulfillment of the formula in Matt 28:19 is Acts 2:38 as Jesus commanded. Peter was given the key, not u or anyone else. Peter said baptize in Jesus name. Please produce 1 verse where anyone literally says "I baptize u in Father, Son, Holy Ghost". Neither will u find a single 1. To say washing of regeneration is not water baptism is your opinion, nothing more. U're still wrong for saying baptism does not save when scripture says "baptism doth also now save us".
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ
Clearly water Baptism does NOT perform any process of sin removal. it is an ANSWER to having already been saved (attained a good conscience) through Christ.
lol..works based theology bondage. Baptism is not a work. The rest of the verse explains that it has nothing to do w/washing physical filth as obviously some were thinking, or Peter would not have mentioned it in that way. The like figure of the waters lifting up noah & also the jews when crossing the sea. Baptism is the fulfillment of those figures. Can't have a good conscience w/out baptism either. To say "having already been saved" is an opinion & a blind 1 @ that.
Acts 2:38 is NOT a literal fulfillment of Matt28:19 because Jesus is the outward name of the eternal son alone. Jesus is NOT the outward name of the Father and Holy Spirit. This being true -baptism in the single name of Jesus would necessarily exclude the Father and Spirit in violation of Matt:28:19. Fact is - the Son is not a mere "flesh shell" for the Father and Spirit to inhabit. The Son (who alone is Jesus) is a distinct eternal person.
Lets look at the evidence for Three persons in one God
Acts 2:38 had better be the literal fulfillment or there's a contradiction. Jesus name is the name unlocked by Peter who was given the key. The Spirit is the Father of Christ. To say Jesus name excludes anything is opinion just as "distinct eternal person" or 'trinity'.
The HS is the Father of Christ: Mat 1:18,20/Lu 1:35. Obviously 1 & the same. Christ only said that he is 1 w/the Father & never a 3rd: Jo 10:30. It's all about 1 God (psst, it's the Father 1 Cor 8:6) manifest in the flesh 1 Tim 3:16. It takes the Spirit of Truth to be lead into this truth.
In the name of even today still means in the authority of. For example I could say "stop in the name of the law"...Matthew 28:19 is in the authority of Jesus because Jesus commands us to baptize. I exegete Titus 3:5 in my coming video series...sigh.
No, it doesn't & if ppl keep it insisting it does then the translators made an error & scripture is corrupt. The translators got it right by translating it "in the name of Jesus for.." I agree w/the translators & u don't. To me the bible is inerrant & to u it has errors. Do we have a formulation of words to use in water baptism or not? If yes, then the words were 1st used by Peter & it's correct or we don't & water baptism doesn't exist.
2) The Father is a Person, the Son is a Person and the Holy Spirit is a Person
(A)The Father is a Person. We can have fellowship with him 1John1:3; he knows, Matt6:6-8; he teaches, Matt 16:17; he loves John 16:27; he is a witness, John8:18; he has a will, John5:30
(B)The Son is a Person. We can have fellowship with him, 1John1:3; he knows, Matt11:27; he teaches, John1:18, Rev. 2:18; he loves, Rom8:35, Gal. 2:20; he is a witness, John 8:18; he has a will John 5:30; he can be grieved, John 11:35
I still can't find the scripture where it says "the Father is a person, etc.." God is a Spirit is scriptural. Tertullian is man who coined trinitas or trinity which is a pagan term. Which is why Jesus will tell ppl to depart for he never knew them.
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water
Water baptism is an outward answer declaring your saved
Where in scripture does it say "mans conscience is already washed...before water baptism"? Or "water baptism is an outward answer declaring one saved"? Sounds like you're in bondage to man made doctrine.
C) The Holy Spirit is a Person. We can have fellowship with him, Philippians 2:1, II Cor. 13:14; he knows, I Cor. 2:11; he teaches, Luke 12:12, I Cor. 2:13; he loves, Romans 15:30; he is a witness, Acts 20:23, Romans 8:16; he has a will, I Cor. 12:11; he can be grieved, Ephesians 4:30.
The blood of Jesus absolutely regenerates, but what puts us into Jesus? The Bible says that those who are baptized into Jesus clothe themselves with Jesus. To say that baptism regenerates is obviously wrong, but to say that baptism has nothing to do with faith or existing IN Jesus is just as wrong.
Concatenate 2 years ago
These scripture state the requirements for remission of sins: Matt 26:28 the blood of Jesus; Mk 1:4/Lu 3:3 Repentance; Acts 10:43 Belief; Rom 3:25 Faith; Acts 2:38 Repentance & baptism in Jesus name is for the remission of sins.
RinnEgade 2 years ago
The Blood-Mat 26:28 (says for what sake was His blood to be shed, what was the purpose);Repentance-Mar 1:4, Luk 3:3 (says for what sake did he preach the baptism of repentance, preparing the way of the Lord);Belief- Act 10:43 (says who will receive the remission of sins);Rom 3:25 (says how sinners are propitiated and why);Baptism-Act 2:38 (says into what those pricked in their hearts would be baptized into and how to receive the Holy Ghost)
Bibletouchstone 2 years ago
Instead of placing an opinion of what the scripture says how about putting the literal quote there? The blood of Jesus was shed for the remission of sins. Repentance is for the remission of sins. Belief is for the remission of sins. Baptism in Jesus name is for the remission of sins. Baptism in Jesus name washes away our sins & places us in the body of Christ.
RinnEgade 2 years ago
I am finishing a five part series of exegeting these passages. Thanks for you comments. Maybe you could do a video too.
Bibletouchstone 2 years ago
I don't have the capabilities atm. I work 5 to 6 days out of 8 & the wife has me tied up w/other stuff.
RinnEgade 2 years ago
Rinn said: "The blood of Jesus was shed for the remission of sins"
A) For particular redemption of God's people: Jon10:15 and I lay down my life for the sheep
"Repentance is for the remission of sins"
A) Repentance is a consequence not a cause of salvation. Rom11:29
For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance
"Belief is for the remission of sins"
A) Belief is a consequence not a cause of salvation: Acts 13:48 and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
I didn't say those things, scripture states clearly just as i quoted. Water baptism does not save? 1 Pet 3:21 "..baptism doth also now save us.." U're in error, tulip. Rom 11:29 has nothing to do w/the discussion nor does your personal opinion in defining consequence or cause & u can't even find actual scripture that supports it. Quote scripture & preach w/it not against it.
RinnEgade 2 years ago
Rinn Said: "Baptism in Jesus name is for the remission of sins"
A1) Water Baptism does not save. We are saved prior to Baptism:
Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
A2) When the scripture writers wrote "Baptized in jesus Name" - they were referring to the authority of Jesus..not a literal baptismal formula. Christ's baptismal formula:
Matthew 28:19
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
Scripture states that we are to be "..baptized in Jesus for the remission of sins.." Titus was written AFTER Acts. Notice Titus 3:5 says "..by the washing of regeneration.." sigh. Scripture states "..baptized in Jesus name.." & u say "authority" which means the translators got it wrong, therefore the bible is in error & fallible. Jesus name baptism is the literal wording used. The same could be said of Matt 28:19 "it means authority". If u're not scared of Jesus name baptism then go try it.
RinnEgade 2 years ago
No - scriptures does not state that the baptismal formula is to be done in the literal words of "In Jesus Name". The literal baptismal formula is in Matt28:19 as Jesus commanded. Please produce one verse where anyone literally says "I baptize you in Jesus name". You wont find a single one .
Washing of regeneration - This is not water baptism. This is a spiritual washing of regeneration (sigh). The first part of Titus 3:5 says:
"Not by works of righteousness which we have done"
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
The literal fulfillment of the formula in Matt 28:19 is Acts 2:38 as Jesus commanded. Peter was given the key, not u or anyone else. Peter said baptize in Jesus name. Please produce 1 verse where anyone literally says "I baptize u in Father, Son, Holy Ghost". Neither will u find a single 1. To say washing of regeneration is not water baptism is your opinion, nothing more. U're still wrong for saying baptism does not save when scripture says "baptism doth also now save us".
RinnEgade 2 years ago
Rinn,
You are in bondage to a works based Theology. Try reading the rest of 1Peter3:21 which tells us exactly HOW baptism saves us:
1 Peter 3:21
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ
Clearly water Baptism does NOT perform any process of sin removal. it is an ANSWER to having already been saved (attained a good conscience) through Christ.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
lol..works based theology bondage. Baptism is not a work. The rest of the verse explains that it has nothing to do w/washing physical filth as obviously some were thinking, or Peter would not have mentioned it in that way. The like figure of the waters lifting up noah & also the jews when crossing the sea. Baptism is the fulfillment of those figures. Can't have a good conscience w/out baptism either. To say "having already been saved" is an opinion & a blind 1 @ that.
RinnEgade 2 years ago
Acts 2:38 is NOT a literal fulfillment of Matt28:19 because Jesus is the outward name of the eternal son alone. Jesus is NOT the outward name of the Father and Holy Spirit. This being true -baptism in the single name of Jesus would necessarily exclude the Father and Spirit in violation of Matt:28:19. Fact is - the Son is not a mere "flesh shell" for the Father and Spirit to inhabit. The Son (who alone is Jesus) is a distinct eternal person.
Lets look at the evidence for Three persons in one God
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
Acts 2:38 had better be the literal fulfillment or there's a contradiction. Jesus name is the name unlocked by Peter who was given the key. The Spirit is the Father of Christ. To say Jesus name excludes anything is opinion just as "distinct eternal person" or 'trinity'.
RinnEgade 2 years ago
3)The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are personally distinct from one another.
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are able to:
(A) Send or be sent by one another (John 3:17, 10:36, 14:23-26, 15:26, 16:7).
(B) Speak to each other (John 17:1-26, Romans 8:26-27, Hebrews 1:7-8) and about each other (Matthew 17:5, Mark 1:11, John 8:13-18).
(C) The Father and Son love and honor each other (John 3:35, 5:20, 14:31).
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
The HS is the Father of Christ: Mat 1:18,20/Lu 1:35. Obviously 1 & the same. Christ only said that he is 1 w/the Father & never a 3rd: Jo 10:30. It's all about 1 God (psst, it's the Father 1 Cor 8:6) manifest in the flesh 1 Tim 3:16. It takes the Spirit of Truth to be lead into this truth.
RinnEgade 2 years ago
In the name of even today still means in the authority of. For example I could say "stop in the name of the law"...Matthew 28:19 is in the authority of Jesus because Jesus commands us to baptize. I exegete Titus 3:5 in my coming video series...sigh.
Bibletouchstone 2 years ago
No, it doesn't & if ppl keep it insisting it does then the translators made an error & scripture is corrupt. The translators got it right by translating it "in the name of Jesus for.." I agree w/the translators & u don't. To me the bible is inerrant & to u it has errors. Do we have a formulation of words to use in water baptism or not? If yes, then the words were 1st used by Peter & it's correct or we don't & water baptism doesn't exist.
RinnEgade 2 years ago
2) The Father is a Person, the Son is a Person and the Holy Spirit is a Person
(A)The Father is a Person. We can have fellowship with him 1John1:3; he knows, Matt6:6-8; he teaches, Matt 16:17; he loves John 16:27; he is a witness, John8:18; he has a will, John5:30
(B)The Son is a Person. We can have fellowship with him, 1John1:3; he knows, Matt11:27; he teaches, John1:18, Rev. 2:18; he loves, Rom8:35, Gal. 2:20; he is a witness, John 8:18; he has a will John 5:30; he can be grieved, John 11:35
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
I still can't find the scripture where it says "the Father is a person, etc.." God is a Spirit is scriptural. Tertullian is man who coined trinitas or trinity which is a pagan term. Which is why Jesus will tell ppl to depart for he never knew them.
RinnEgade 2 years ago
Part2) Man's conscience is already washed through regeneration before the ANSWER of Water Baptism.
Heb9:14
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Heb10:22
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water
Water baptism is an outward answer declaring your saved
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
Where in scripture does it say "mans conscience is already washed...before water baptism"? Or "water baptism is an outward answer declaring one saved"? Sounds like you're in bondage to man made doctrine.
RinnEgade 2 years ago
1) The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.
(A) The Father is God (I Peter 1:2; John 6:27, 20:17; Galatians 1:1; Matthew 11:25; Jude 1).
(B) The Son -- or Word -- is God (John 1:1, 8:58, 20:28; Hebrews 1:1-8, Colossians 2:9, Titus 2:13).
(C) The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5 :1-11; I Corinthians 2:11; 6:19-20).
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
C) The Holy Spirit is a Person. We can have fellowship with him, Philippians 2:1, II Cor. 13:14; he knows, I Cor. 2:11; he teaches, Luke 12:12, I Cor. 2:13; he loves, Romans 15:30; he is a witness, Acts 20:23, Romans 8:16; he has a will, I Cor. 12:11; he can be grieved, Ephesians 4:30.
ChristianTULIP 2 years ago
I promise I will get back to you with a real video response, I have a busy next couple of days. God bless, all my best.
bobbo345 2 years ago