The Moody Blues could never be as good without Mike Pinder as they could have been with him. Such is the chemistry of a band. I saw them for the firts time in Houston, 1978. Mike Pinder played the album but Patrick Moraz played keyboards in the concert. I purchased the concert booklet and they strategically blocked Mike Pinder, by cropping him out of the photographs.
i got to see the moodies in san diego in summer 1972 and the show was incredible and of course hash-oil-soaked joints were being passed around thru the crowd, i love all 5 of the guys forever
Well, I suppose it's not a COMPLETE impossibility, but it's the fact that he's talking about it as if it's something that's actually been proven, not something that can be explained much more simply by other scientific reasons.
Nice to see this...a big Mike Pinder fan here, and when he left...then Ray...it was never the same. I'm old school (means I was around at the beginning)...and I watch all the old Moody Blues videos, not so much the newer ones. Not without Mike and Ray.
This is great. He may very well be my new fav person. Should he want to come to Hawaii and surf, free dive and see the Island I welcome him with aloha.
Graeme may still be angry and hurt but he, Justin, John and Ray still consider Mike a Moody Blue and if someone would only make the first move they might be re-united. Someone has to swallow their pride. It,s such a shame. Without Mike,s songs and the Mellotron, and that voice, they haven,t been the same. I,ve been lucky enough to see them twice but never with Mike Pinder and that is a huge piece missing. There writing is so different from each other but there is such an amazing balance
As long as Graeme lives in ego, he won't forgive Mike. Words spoken in frustration at a critical point when Mike needed to keep focus and Graeme interrupted him, resulting in a comment about Edge's abilities. They were just words, and Mike did apologize, but Graeme has never let go of it. In defense of the band's(John, Justin, and Ray) loyalty to Mike, they have never included any succeeding keys player as a full band member, but as "Keyboardist". But when Mike left, so did his trademark sound.
A truly amazing man responsible (with others) for the most amazing music of our time. Perhaps any time. Judging by the tons of comments, this feeling is universal amongst those who of what I speak.
@inmylife10465 i quite agree with you , greatest hits that's all that seems to be available now.come on moodies get back to your roots and record them great tracks like i know you can do
@cheifguggletram Not so strange after all: I had many out of body experiences I remember while still in my crib!!! There have been Mystics and those with "second sight" in our Welsh, Scotch and Irish-as well as English-family! I am 51 now and I have still had "dreams" so vivid that I knew they had to be real! And Deja 'Vu? OMG!! I have been many places and had clear memories of being there in a dream!! We use 1/10th of our brains...waddya think the other 9/10ths are doing????
I always wish that Mike Pinder and the Moody Bkues would preform together for at least one tour or a partial tour. Produce a new album too. I miss Mike's mystical songs and hope that he would produce a new or some more new songs.
what a neat interview- and the end is classico !! very touching !!
mike was the mystic of the band- and once he left the moodies became a pop band again- of course Justin was always the star but the early moodies were a mystical band. and lets face it, thousands and thousands of people have taken LSD and gone to their concerts.
that time ended and the band went in a new direction. but in the late 60's and early 70's they were THE band to see live & Mike and his mellotron were amazing.
@nootaramus I concur.... mike was the spiritual one and gave the moodies their mystic quality...ray was almost a show tune guy, justin and john were rockers and balladeers. they lost alot when pinder left.
Mike Pinder is one of my favorite musicians, but going out of his body at childhood? That's a little bit nutty. I don't believe in that kind of stuff.
I can't believe that some people think that Moraz was better than Mike Pinder on keyboards. Pinder was THE underlying sound of the Moodies on their best albums, the first seven. After he left, they had to go to more of a pop style. They were never quite the same after that, missing Pinder's lush and cosmic, (and complex), arrangements. Check out Melancholy Man, So Deep Within You, Sun is still Shining, and his spaciest songs: My Song, and Out and In. To name a few. Wish he was still with them.
Ah, those famous last words: ".......but we decide which is right and which is an illusion". How many times did I play the opening tune of the album just to hear that bariton-ish voice say these words. It send shivers down my spine.. And I was lucky to hear his voice at the other side of the vinyl as well !
Hey Planktontwo, Jim Morrison is dead ya schmuck. His gravesite is in Paris France. Michael Pinder is not dead, and did not drown in a stupid pickle vat. Furthermore, there is no gravesite for Michael Pinder that I am aware of, so he must still be alive. Your brain must be full of dog dung to come up with such ridiculous garbage like this! Who do you think you are? Gay Ray Thomas?
Hey Planktontwo, I suppose you also think Elvis Presley is still alive, along with Janis Joplin and Jimi Hendrix. But you think poor ol' Mike Pinder is dead? Man you need to get a serious grip on reality. What planet are you living on, ol' veteran cosmic rocker? I also believe John Entwistle and Keith Moon are dead as well, but I suppose you think they are still alive? This is too much, you spazzy dude!
There is no gravesite, is an allegation. It is therefore a mystery like Jim Morrison's. One of which I certainly have no proof of. If there is a human out there who looks like Mr. Pinder, be careful, he could be an imposter. How many Elvis impersonators are there?? Perfectly legitimate theory that Mr. Pinder died in a pickle vat. You believe what you want to believe lcr1955. I choose to believe what I want to believe. It is a mystery
Michael is alive and well and living in California. He DID NOT die in a tragic pickle vat accident. These false rumors must stop. I can't believe the sick people who start this kind of stuff.
Then how do they start? I have seen it in MANY trivia questions regarding Mr. Pinder's uncertain fatality. It should be a story written like Jim Morrison, is he or is he not alive? While dyiing in a pickle vat is indeed tragic, one cannot throw the "rumour" off the table because his alleged death is not what you want to believe. I believe redwinglr has heard the same rumours.
Did someone say this guy was a Beatle? Was he the original drummer before Ginger Baker? I simply dont recognize him. What song did her write. I heard that "I wanna hold your hand" was written by a different guy. Could this be him?
Grame and Michael were buddfies who were the driving forces to the founding of the original Moodies. Denny Laine was the original lead singer who left just after recording and just before their first hit (Go Now) was released. After Denny and others left, they were replaced by Justin & John which led to their massive fame. Denny later was a member of Paul McCartney's Wings in the 70's. (The Beatles original drummer was Pete Best before Ringo.)
So, there it is. No band, no wig, no jowls, no kant. I wonder if it was ultimately one thing, like this, for the Beatles... They couldn't do it before someone died. Perhaps if one of the Moody Blues gets a death sentence, things will come into perspective, and they'll see that they have another chance, and take it.
Oh my G-d, to solve it all here... the holy grail of music...the only clip ever seen where we see the speaker of "cold hearted orb...gong...("that's for you, Graeme." Graeme loves you Mike. You're awarded in heaven everlasting peace...after you left with Octave, the mood has never been recaptured. You recaptured it in this video.and the Hopi Indians...I never had an out of body experience. Your after war party was straight out of Fellini's Amarcord. Any comment, Mike? Gigantic fan. Frank
Wouldn't it be nice if we could have one more concert tour with the Moody Blues, including Mike Pinder, and Ray Thomas. Clearly one of the greatest bands ever.
Wow, this was great I thought that the reason Mike left the MB's was that he flipped out on LSD and then I thought he was dead, so great to see he isn't crazy and that he's still alive.
It would be great to see them all bury the hatchet and get them all back together again.... Denny Laine included !!!
I have a dvd with this same interview and much more. His son is active in the hollywood scene doing musical scores. The mellotron led to music via computers, and you see one behind him in this piece. He's very active is the business.
Outstanding. And I really do believe he is sorry about what he said - and meant what he said at the very end. And, yes, at almost 60 myself, I agree that the years have been VERY good to him.
It appears the years have been kind to Mike. This is an incredible interview. Mike is candid, just as honest as his music ever was, a person who obviously knows and appreciates beauty. And no wonder of the imagination he is the genius of many of the beautiful Moodies songs we still love through the years.
I have all their albums & have listened to them since the Days of Future Past. It is a pitty about Mike whom I thought was their best. He had the deepest music among them all. Justin made them famous & his contributions are unquestionable but Mike had the best music IMHO.
That's not entirely true. Mike didn't leave, he was kind of forced out. It was true that he didn't want to tour with them anymore, so in a way he did leave. But he still wanted to be on the recordings and contribute as a writer. The other members resented this though (with good reason obviously). But they refused to let him contribute to Long Distance Voyager and after a series of lawsuits he was officially removed from the band.
Sounds like "Moody" is a good name for you little babies. Maybe the "Moody Brats" would have been a bettter name for the band. Made it all the way through a song on a tamborine eh? WOW you must be the greatest. Sounds like you all have a lot of growing up to do.
Why would Graeme be soooooo sensitive? You'd think he would just go have a beer and a smoke, and get over it. Whenever a band like the MBs works closely together, there's bound to be some spats. Nothing to end the world over, Graeme. Without Mikey, the "Classic 7" albums wouldn't have been what they are. The music just wasn't quite the same after Sojourn.
Where did you get your ear for music? Denny Laine was the perfect vocals for Go Now! Mike was a master song writer and keyboard player definitly not the best vocalist. Not to take anything away from him, it's just that he had little control, and his tone quality left a bit behind the others. Ray Thomas was in that old pre philosophical Moody Blues group, and Ray would've been a better choice than Mike Pindar.
And he thought of those he angered, For he was not a violent man, And he thought of those he hurt For he was not a cruel man And he thought of those he frightened For he was not an evil man, And he understood. He understood himself. Upon this he saw that when he was of anger or knew hurt or felt fear, It was because he was not understanding, And he learned, compassion. And with his eye of compassion. He saw his enemies like unto himself, And he learned love. Then, he was answered.
@stratmandoug1974 belated kudos for this comment - says it all. I always wondered why the Moodies never mentioned his name after he split or performed any of his signature material, like he never existed. How ironic that it was Mike's voice that brought out the best in Graeme Edge's poetry. His recitals remain highlights of their recordings. And to me, everything they've achieved since has a hollow ring to it, like there's some magic missing
Hay Graeme, listen to Mike he says he is sorry, so what more do you want. The next time I see the Moodys, I know Mike will be their it's up to you Justin. Now go for it. One More Time To Live
I 've always missed Mike Pinder in teh Moodie Blues . Got to see them only once with him . it was and still is one of the 5 best shows I 've ever seen adn I have seen a lot -- San Diego -1973 -WOW --wish they would get him back in the band -never have enjoyed the full orchestra with the moodie blues -- Thank YOu mike Pinder -beautiful interview !!!
that's great! pinder is an amazing musician. i love the songs he did with the moodies and the mellotron has to be the coolest instrument made. so perfect for the psychedlic scene. it's saddening to think that he and edge don't talk. a lot shit goes down in life and to forgive is all you can do. i hope greame can find it in his heart.
i've always preferred the eerie sound of the mellotron over the spaced-out sound of the moog synthesizer (with maybe the exception of manfred mann's minimoog).
i can't remember the excitement of listening to strawberry fields one day with a set of headphones and suddenly realizing the flutes were actually a mellotron!
i'm glad to see many newer artists bringing back the mellotron in their music. it's a great sounding instrument.
Mike Pinder, one of the driving force of the Moodies. Fond memories in the days of futures past. Sat back stage behind Pinder (when he had hair) and marveled at his work with the Melotron. I wondered why his hands moved out of beat until years later knowing that he had to keep one step ahead of the instruments slow action. Wished I would have paid more attention. Nice tribute to Gramme and apologies.
I remember noticing on the credits, back when I was 14? 15? on my brother's copy of the Imagine album, Mike Pinder being listed. It was kind of surprising. :-)
The incident with Justin reminds me of the famous one between Paul and Ringo during the White Album, when Paul said something derogatory about Ringo's drumming, and Ringo left for what, a week? In any case, they say when Ringo finally returned, his drum set was bedecked with roses all over it. It is very moving.
Oh man.. was glad to see this! And everyone is right about Mike. A reunion tour would be something I would die to see, but I would be happy with them doing just one SHOW for old times sake. Like others have said... before its too late!
Mike Pinder was the soul sound, John Lodge is the social consciousness and Justin Hayward the heartfelt romantic, Ray was the mystic, and that was the magic of the Moody Blues. I miss all of them playing together. After Mike left, nearly half of the magic went with him.IMHO
I totally agree--Mike's mastery of the Mellotron, vocals and writing make the "Classic Seven" Moodys records immortal. Justin Hayward is fine musician, but the Moody Blues lost a lot of their heart and soul when Mike left.
The Moody Blues still play great live, but I always wanted to see mr. Pinder with the Mellotron on stage; it's something my dad was able to do, which makes me feel like I missed out lots. Oh well.
Yes, Mike really gave them much of that early sound...the string sound with a lot of reverb which gave them that really big spacey sound on all of those first albums was basically his signature contribution to the bands sound..not to mention his songwriting.
I always thought that Justin was the heart of The Moodies and Mike was the soul. Pat Moraz never had the same feel for the band's music.
What's left of the band now? Mike's mellotron is gone, Justin threw the great guitar sound he used to have out the window and Tomo has hung up his flute.
As for the rumours claiming that grudges between members is preventing a reunion, maybe they should go back and listen to The Balance. They wrote that, so maybe they should practice what they once preached.
I haven't read all of the comments, but Mike Pinder really mastered the Mellotron before anyone else. Like many of you, I wish that Mike would do some kind of reunion tour with the rest of band and this would have to include Ray. They'd make a ton of money and satisfy a ton of fans. My only realistic hope would be when the Moody Blues are finally inducted into the HOF and they play together. That will be quite a moment. Hope it happens in my lifetime.
Mike Pinder is a true musical genius and a great poet as well. I too wish that he was still with the Moodys. His vocal talent and piano/organ was my favorite part of their albums until he left. I hope that they all reconcile and reunite for at least another album and concert, perhaps before too late as with the Beatles.
This could be the Give Peace a Chance of these Troubled times. Mike is a very beautiful man. I do love him I have always loved in thru all the changes
The Moody Blues were never the same after he departed. They replaced his playing but never ever his ability to make the most meaningful music in the band. I very much miss his music.
I agree completely. In my opinion, Mike was the heart and social conscience of the band and the his mellotron was what really created the Moody Blues' sound.
PINK FLOYD were played together in Africa 2005 and now is the oportunity of MB they are living still please, is the only way of have the old formation of the band
I believe Mike Pinder was the pivotal influence of The Moody Blues new direction and sound in the late sixties. His mysticism, Mellatron, creativity, and talent, resolutely influenced and inspired the others to write some great and classic tracks.
I 'm not sure that Greame would have been jealous of the Hayward/Pinder collaboration either...that said, I do think (as many pre '74 MB fans did), that there was a magic to the Pinder/Hayward collaboration.Mcartney and Lennon were never as good solo IMHO...same deal here.
It was reported by the AP Wire Service and made the CBS evening news, about their very chaotic production sessions between release of Second Sojourn and Octave. Rumored that they were unable to communicate except through management. At some point they scrapped an entire albums's worth of multitrack recordings. Anyone else know of this? Had to be more than just friction beween Pinder and Edge.
Well said my brother. Thanks for turning me on. What a find! How, where, & when was this done?... and even more important, is there any other interviews of Mike that anyone knows of folks? Good stuff!! We love ya' Mike... So good to hear from you. -a very long fan
This appears to be grabbed from the DVD Classic Artists series: "the Moody Blues".
Lots of Pinder reflecting on the band, as well as the other guys too.
3 discs...but only the first one has the interviews - but its great...worth the price in itself. I love it when Justin tells the story about the guy hanging out at a gig for 59 days with the signs telling how the world is going to change when the moodies play ...and when it doesn't he yells at them leaving the hotel for the airport..
Mike Pinder and Justin Hayward were the Moody Blues. I think If Mike had collaborated with Justin on the Blue jays album, it would have been a more complete record. I think Graeme Edge was jealous of Mike Pinder's artistic collaboration with Justin Hayward.
I can't believe that a spat between Graeme and Mike is all there is to it. If Justin or John wanted to do it, they'd do it. They used drum machines for TOSOL, SLM, KOTK and most of ST & Dec.; Gordon carries most of the live chores; many fans have been alienated by Graeme's drunken antics for at least the past 20 years; who would cry if Graeme stomped off in a huff because they brought Mike back? There's gotta be more to this story.
Great cap-off to the interview. I hope that this helped bridge some of the chasm of animosity that was purported between the post-Pinder Moodies and Mike. They're all really great people. Thanks for the vid!
They were my favorite band forever but maybe with age, they're newer stuff is pretty boring. What could be better than a reunion with Mike Pinder. It seems he wants to do it so Grahme, get over yourself. Do it for the music. Moody fans would be coming out of the woodwork for this reunion!
I say we throw a big party in Vegas and invite them to have drinks and settle this once and all... imagine just even one tour with all of them. Feel free to email me with real ideas...
I never knew this...I went to the Moodies xmas party in 84 on a boat on the Thames and Graeme said if Mike showed up they would just set him up at the side of the stage... I can't believe Graeme would still hold a grudge. We all move on...
Oh, I hate to rub it in, but I met the guys several times. I'm also in the Wildest Dreams Video. If you give me an email address, I can send you a couple of pics..Thanks for the reply.
Last February, Asia reunited and went on tour together after 23 years. I figure if John Wetton and Steve Howe can bury the hatchet, surely Mike Pinder and Graeme Edge can.
The Moody Blues could never be as good without Mike Pinder as they could have been with him. Such is the chemistry of a band. I saw them for the firts time in Houston, 1978. Mike Pinder played the album but Patrick Moraz played keyboards in the concert. I purchased the concert booklet and they strategically blocked Mike Pinder, by cropping him out of the photographs.
thugthumper1 6 months ago
i got to see the moodies in san diego in summer 1972 and the show was incredible and of course hash-oil-soaked joints were being passed around thru the crowd, i love all 5 of the guys forever
elmerhdga 8 months ago
ITS John Locke
Thescreensaverr 8 months ago
50% profundity and 50% BS. Wise is the man who keeps the two in tension.
BrianMChampion 8 months ago
Out and In......
Aldebaron9 10 months ago
The real acid freak of the Moody Blues was Michael Pinder.... not Justin Heyward.
Aldebaron9 10 months ago
...What...
What a fucking bullshiter! Goddamnit. Couldn't bear listening to this guy talk about his "out of body experience".
Mordain607 11 months ago
@Mordain607 how would you know.........?
Aldebaron9 10 months ago
@Aldebaron9
Well, I suppose it's not a COMPLETE impossibility, but it's the fact that he's talking about it as if it's something that's actually been proven, not something that can be explained much more simply by other scientific reasons.
Mordain607 10 months ago
@Mordain607 I know, how dare he speak of that!
TheRed201025 8 months ago
Nice to see this...a big Mike Pinder fan here, and when he left...then Ray...it was never the same. I'm old school (means I was around at the beginning)...and I watch all the old Moody Blues videos, not so much the newer ones. Not without Mike and Ray.
afgreyparrot 1 year ago
This is great. He may very well be my new fav person. Should he want to come to Hawaii and surf, free dive and see the Island I welcome him with aloha.
The war story and father stories are fantastic.
hang10jerry 1 year ago
Graeme may still be angry and hurt but he, Justin, John and Ray still consider Mike a Moody Blue and if someone would only make the first move they might be re-united. Someone has to swallow their pride. It,s such a shame. Without Mike,s songs and the Mellotron, and that voice, they haven,t been the same. I,ve been lucky enough to see them twice but never with Mike Pinder and that is a huge piece missing. There writing is so different from each other but there is such an amazing balance
8moody1 1 year ago
dont forget Patric Moraz,he filled in quite well i would say.dont know what happened to him?
dougc426 1 year ago
The music of the Moodies has had a powerful impact on my life, going back to 1969/'70, and I'll always be grateful for that.
DHFabian 1 year ago
this guy is so sweet and innocent!
SherrieLeaLaird 1 year ago
As long as Graeme lives in ego, he won't forgive Mike. Words spoken in frustration at a critical point when Mike needed to keep focus and Graeme interrupted him, resulting in a comment about Edge's abilities. They were just words, and Mike did apologize, but Graeme has never let go of it. In defense of the band's(John, Justin, and Ray) loyalty to Mike, they have never included any succeeding keys player as a full band member, but as "Keyboardist". But when Mike left, so did his trademark sound.
cbxsage 1 year ago
A truly amazing man responsible (with others) for the most amazing music of our time. Perhaps any time. Judging by the tons of comments, this feeling is universal amongst those who of what I speak.
alittlepale 1 year ago 2
when the hell are the moody blues gonna make a new album?
42 years as a band with 12 albums is NO excuse(unless you include"greatest hit albums;i think that would add up to a total of 30 albums)
inmylife10465 1 year ago
@inmylife10465 i quite agree with you , greatest hits that's all that seems to be available now.come on moodies get back to your roots and record them great tracks like i know you can do
moodyblues41 1 year ago
I hope Graeme forgave Mike.
DieselProductions11 1 year ago
amazing guy
taliayu 1 year ago
Seems strange that on a mike pinder video you should quote a Graeme Edge/ Ray Thomas poem
rowtenben 1 year ago
@cheifguggletram Not so strange after all: I had many out of body experiences I remember while still in my crib!!! There have been Mystics and those with "second sight" in our Welsh, Scotch and Irish-as well as English-family! I am 51 now and I have still had "dreams" so vivid that I knew they had to be real! And Deja 'Vu? OMG!! I have been many places and had clear memories of being there in a dream!! We use 1/10th of our brains...waddya think the other 9/10ths are doing????
MegaJewels1 1 year ago
I always wish that Mike Pinder and the Moody Bkues would preform together for at least one tour or a partial tour. Produce a new album too. I miss Mike's mystical songs and hope that he would produce a new or some more new songs.
rcabletn 1 year ago
what a neat interview- and the end is classico !! very touching !!
mike was the mystic of the band- and once he left the moodies became a pop band again- of course Justin was always the star but the early moodies were a mystical band. and lets face it, thousands and thousands of people have taken LSD and gone to their concerts.
that time ended and the band went in a new direction. but in the late 60's and early 70's they were THE band to see live & Mike and his mellotron were amazing.
nootaramus 1 year ago
@nootaramus I concur.... mike was the spiritual one and gave the moodies their mystic quality...ray was almost a show tune guy, justin and john were rockers and balladeers. they lost alot when pinder left.
JerichoDitch2 1 year ago
Mike Pinder is one of my favorite musicians, but going out of his body at childhood? That's a little bit nutty. I don't believe in that kind of stuff.
cheifguggletram 1 year ago
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I can't believe that some people think that Moraz was better than Mike Pinder on keyboards. Pinder was THE underlying sound of the Moodies on their best albums, the first seven. After he left, they had to go to more of a pop style. They were never quite the same after that, missing Pinder's lush and cosmic, (and complex), arrangements. Check out Melancholy Man, So Deep Within You, Sun is still Shining, and his spaciest songs: My Song, and Out and In. To name a few. Wish he was still with them.
london2z 1 year ago
that was a sweet shout out to Graeme at the end there. Sometimes you just have to bury hatchets.
5winston 1 year ago
What a humble and mellow guy! Fascinating and his work with the Moody BLues is, of course, legendary!
progrockman 1 year ago
Be sure to check out Mike's album 'Among The Stars'. It is in my opinion the most beautiful album that has yet been made.
Backlap 1 year ago
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Backlap 1 year ago
Ah, those famous last words: ".......but we decide which is right and which is an illusion". How many times did I play the opening tune of the album just to hear that bariton-ish voice say these words. It send shivers down my spine.. And I was lucky to hear his voice at the other side of the vinyl as well !
zugrundig 1 year ago
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What a great song!!!!!!
Many of those who have been lucky enough to stumble unto the songs by Jal Joshua think he is fantastic. Check out Jal Joshua:
Don't Cry Out Loud or Somewhere Over the Rainbow or One Voice or Hallelujah!!!
flash9202 1 year ago
Sounds like a shroom trip.
theundercoveratheist 1 year ago
Hey Planktontwo, Jim Morrison is dead ya schmuck. His gravesite is in Paris France. Michael Pinder is not dead, and did not drown in a stupid pickle vat. Furthermore, there is no gravesite for Michael Pinder that I am aware of, so he must still be alive. Your brain must be full of dog dung to come up with such ridiculous garbage like this! Who do you think you are? Gay Ray Thomas?
lcr1955 1 year ago
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Planktontwo 1 year ago
Hey Planktontwo, I suppose you also think Elvis Presley is still alive, along with Janis Joplin and Jimi Hendrix. But you think poor ol' Mike Pinder is dead? Man you need to get a serious grip on reality. What planet are you living on, ol' veteran cosmic rocker? I also believe John Entwistle and Keith Moon are dead as well, but I suppose you think they are still alive? This is too much, you spazzy dude!
lcr1955 1 year ago 3
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There is no gravesite, is an allegation. It is therefore a mystery like Jim Morrison's. One of which I certainly have no proof of. If there is a human out there who looks like Mr. Pinder, be careful, he could be an imposter. How many Elvis impersonators are there?? Perfectly legitimate theory that Mr. Pinder died in a pickle vat. You believe what you want to believe lcr1955. I choose to believe what I want to believe. It is a mystery
Planktontwo 1 year ago
Michael is alive and well and living in California. He DID NOT die in a tragic pickle vat accident. These false rumors must stop. I can't believe the sick people who start this kind of stuff.
lcr1955 2 years ago
Then how do they start? I have seen it in MANY trivia questions regarding Mr. Pinder's uncertain fatality. It should be a story written like Jim Morrison, is he or is he not alive? While dyiing in a pickle vat is indeed tragic, one cannot throw the "rumour" off the table because his alleged death is not what you want to believe. I believe redwinglr has heard the same rumours.
Planktontwo 1 year ago
@Planktontwo He is not dead. Just Google him, and check out his website. Also Wikipedia.
london2z 1 year ago
Ending of the video was kinda touching.
After all of these years I never knew that he and G Edge had a falling out.
Wow that's some grudge too.
Over thirty years.
pitbullexpress 2 years ago
hey everybody, micheal pinder did not die in a tragic pickle vat accident. do not fall for this false rumor. it is utter nonsense.
lcr1955 2 years ago
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This guy is a real crazy asshole! He's a crackpot for sure! Who's this creep think he is?
MrSharkey11 2 years ago
The great Mike Pinder!
Ahh, to hear the mellotron with the Moodies!!
One can hope: as Justin Hayward, in a recent interview, put in a teaser that they might have mellotron in upcoming tour/s.
It's at the "Moody Blues Today" official MB's web site.
They were 'on fire' last tour and would be even more amazing should the mellotron once again generate its magic.
moodylicious 2 years ago
I too have heard that Mr. Pinder met his fate in a tragic pickle vat accident. Could this be an imposter?
redwinglr 2 years ago
Redwinglr...are you crazy?????? What a schmuck. Hope your colonscopy went well.
lcr1955 2 years ago
Did someone say this guy was a Beatle? Was he the original drummer before Ginger Baker? I simply dont recognize him. What song did her write. I heard that "I wanna hold your hand" was written by a different guy. Could this be him?
psi4rick 2 years ago
Grame and Michael were buddfies who were the driving forces to the founding of the original Moodies. Denny Laine was the original lead singer who left just after recording and just before their first hit (Go Now) was released. After Denny and others left, they were replaced by Justin & John which led to their massive fame. Denny later was a member of Paul McCartney's Wings in the 70's. (The Beatles original drummer was Pete Best before Ringo.)
Doogy17 2 years ago
Hey psi4rick, Yeah Right, nobody can be that dumb, nice try!
MrSharkey11 2 years ago
So, there it is. No band, no wig, no jowls, no kant. I wonder if it was ultimately one thing, like this, for the Beatles... They couldn't do it before someone died. Perhaps if one of the Moody Blues gets a death sentence, things will come into perspective, and they'll see that they have another chance, and take it.
FirewindII 2 years ago
I once heard Michael Pinder died in a pickle vat. How is it he appears to allegedly be alive??
Planktontwo 2 years ago
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CoryPonzo 2 years ago
listen to his song at my page(the moody blues a simple game)
emadmadi 2 years ago
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CoryPonzo 2 years ago
Oh my G-d, to solve it all here... the holy grail of music...the only clip ever seen where we see the speaker of "cold hearted orb...gong...("that's for you, Graeme." Graeme loves you Mike. You're awarded in heaven everlasting peace...after you left with Octave, the mood has never been recaptured. You recaptured it in this video.and the Hopi Indians...I never had an out of body experience. Your after war party was straight out of Fellini's Amarcord. Any comment, Mike? Gigantic fan. Frank
frankho99 2 years ago
MP is KING.
beowulven 2 years ago
He has an American accent?
beowulven 2 years ago
Mike Pinder was born in Britian, but called California home since the early 70's. So his last 30+ years are American
Doogy17 2 years ago
I read that he lives in Florida
Oldlionel 2 years ago
Wouldn't it be nice if we could have one more concert tour with the Moody Blues, including Mike Pinder, and Ray Thomas. Clearly one of the greatest bands ever.
OB1974 2 years ago 3
Wow, this was great I thought that the reason Mike left the MB's was that he flipped out on LSD and then I thought he was dead, so great to see he isn't crazy and that he's still alive.
It would be great to see them all bury the hatchet and get them all back together again.... Denny Laine included !!!
rocksinger45 2 years ago
We all leap out of our bodies as children, then why is Mike practically the only one who seems to remember this and no one i know does?
burlearth 2 years ago
Great interview Mike. Miss you! :-) -michelle
AstoriaMichelle99 2 years ago
I have a dvd with this same interview and much more. His son is active in the hollywood scene doing musical scores. The mellotron led to music via computers, and you see one behind him in this piece. He's very active is the business.
Doogy17 2 years ago
Outstanding. And I really do believe he is sorry about what he said - and meant what he said at the very end. And, yes, at almost 60 myself, I agree that the years have been VERY good to him.
LarryTheCitizen 2 years ago
It appears the years have been kind to Mike. This is an incredible interview. Mike is candid, just as honest as his music ever was, a person who obviously knows and appreciates beauty. And no wonder of the imagination he is the genius of many of the beautiful Moodies songs we still love through the years.
TheFRiNgEguitars 2 years ago 2
I have all their albums & have listened to them since the Days of Future Past. It is a pitty about Mike whom I thought was their best. He had the deepest music among them all. Justin made them famous & his contributions are unquestionable but Mike had the best music IMHO.
skristoferu 2 years ago 4
That's not entirely true. Mike didn't leave, he was kind of forced out. It was true that he didn't want to tour with them anymore, so in a way he did leave. But he still wanted to be on the recordings and contribute as a writer. The other members resented this though (with good reason obviously). But they refused to let him contribute to Long Distance Voyager and after a series of lawsuits he was officially removed from the band.
MandrakeMoorglade 2 years ago
Wow! Thanks for posting this. I miss Mike's songs.
//dan
dvnobles 2 years ago
I figure that the band would fight a lot.
Anyone who tours and writes for 7-9 years straight would NOT be lovey dovey ALL the time.
porterwake 2 years ago
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Sounds like "Moody" is a good name for you little babies. Maybe the "Moody Brats" would have been a bettter name for the band. Made it all the way through a song on a tamborine eh? WOW you must be the greatest. Sounds like you all have a lot of growing up to do.
moucon 2 years ago
Why would Graeme be soooooo sensitive? You'd think he would just go have a beer and a smoke, and get over it. Whenever a band like the MBs works closely together, there's bound to be some spats. Nothing to end the world over, Graeme. Without Mikey, the "Classic 7" albums wouldn't have been what they are. The music just wasn't quite the same after Sojourn.
AstoriaMichelle99 2 years ago
Where did you get your ear for music? Denny Laine was the perfect vocals for Go Now! Mike was a master song writer and keyboard player definitly not the best vocalist. Not to take anything away from him, it's just that he had little control, and his tone quality left a bit behind the others. Ray Thomas was in that old pre philosophical Moody Blues group, and Ray would've been a better choice than Mike Pindar.
siggmaestro 2 years ago
undoubtably one of the better rock interviews i've ever heard...
kevinmichaelwilliams 3 years ago
these guys make music of the past...
emadmadi 3 years ago
stratmandoug1974 3 years ago 27
Didn't Graeme write that wonderful poem? Surely he should live by his own beautiful words and forgive Mike with open arms.
stratmandoug1974 3 years ago 21
@stratmandoug1974 maybe he did,and it's no big deal
who know's....maybe mike told him to get the f out of my face be4 i eat your wife out,chew you up and spit you out and then eat your young!
mike was a lil nuts back then
inmylife10465 1 year ago
@stratmandoug1974 no! graeme hates mike,mike took a drum stick and shoved it right up graeme's ass.
hereinthebronx 10 months ago
@stratmandoug1974 belated kudos for this comment - says it all. I always wondered why the Moodies never mentioned his name after he split or performed any of his signature material, like he never existed. How ironic that it was Mike's voice that brought out the best in Graeme Edge's poetry. His recitals remain highlights of their recordings. And to me, everything they've achieved since has a hollow ring to it, like there's some magic missing
EwolDJ 7 months ago
@stratmandoug1974 Graeme writes all those poems. Late lament, departure, the balance...
supercj8899 6 months ago
@stratmandoug1974 WHAT the FUCK are you talking about leave a comment FFS?!
purefonage 1 year ago
Hay Graeme, listen to Mike he says he is sorry, so what more do you want. The next time I see the Moodys, I know Mike will be their it's up to you Justin. Now go for it. One More Time To Live
Mitchues 3 years ago 5
I 've always missed Mike Pinder in teh Moodie Blues . Got to see them only once with him . it was and still is one of the 5 best shows I 've ever seen adn I have seen a lot -- San Diego -1973 -WOW --wish they would get him back in the band -never have enjoyed the full orchestra with the moodie blues -- Thank YOu mike Pinder -beautiful interview !!!
bigbuzman 3 years ago
that's great! pinder is an amazing musician. i love the songs he did with the moodies and the mellotron has to be the coolest instrument made. so perfect for the psychedlic scene. it's saddening to think that he and edge don't talk. a lot shit goes down in life and to forgive is all you can do. i hope greame can find it in his heart.
cchight 3 years ago 2
i've always preferred the eerie sound of the mellotron over the spaced-out sound of the moog synthesizer (with maybe the exception of manfred mann's minimoog).
i can't remember the excitement of listening to strawberry fields one day with a set of headphones and suddenly realizing the flutes were actually a mellotron!
i'm glad to see many newer artists bringing back the mellotron in their music. it's a great sounding instrument.
thanks mike, for your contribution to rock!
nickanddeb 3 years ago
Very very very good. There'a a Chicago DJ who always plays Mike Pinder but I never knew much about him until now.
tonyparrilli 3 years ago
love this man-love this man-love this man
btle11 3 years ago
Mike sounds more American than he used to. I guess from living in California so long.
Jelperman 3 years ago
Mike Pinder, one of the driving force of the Moodies. Fond memories in the days of futures past. Sat back stage behind Pinder (when he had hair) and marveled at his work with the Melotron. I wondered why his hands moved out of beat until years later knowing that he had to keep one step ahead of the instruments slow action. Wished I would have paid more attention. Nice tribute to Gramme and apologies.
hahacheezitsarefun 3 years ago
I have a new respect for this man. That was VERY nice of him to apologize, and you could tell that he really felt it.
lkl8 3 years ago
I remember noticing on the credits, back when I was 14? 15? on my brother's copy of the Imagine album, Mike Pinder being listed. It was kind of surprising. :-)
The incident with Justin reminds me of the famous one between Paul and Ringo during the White Album, when Paul said something derogatory about Ringo's drumming, and Ringo left for what, a week? In any case, they say when Ringo finally returned, his drum set was bedecked with roses all over it. It is very moving.
Bless u,Mr. Pinder!
feelytouchy67 3 years ago
Oh man.. was glad to see this! And everyone is right about Mike. A reunion tour would be something I would die to see, but I would be happy with them doing just one SHOW for old times sake. Like others have said... before its too late!
phoenixstl1 3 years ago 3
Wow..., just incredible! Thanks!
GeneralLee1956 3 years ago
Mike Pinder was the soul sound, John Lodge is the social consciousness and Justin Hayward the heartfelt romantic, Ray was the mystic, and that was the magic of the Moody Blues. I miss all of them playing together. After Mike left, nearly half of the magic went with him.IMHO
rcabletn 3 years ago 2
I totally agree--Mike's mastery of the Mellotron, vocals and writing make the "Classic Seven" Moodys records immortal. Justin Hayward is fine musician, but the Moody Blues lost a lot of their heart and soul when Mike left.
Sutterjack 3 years ago 3
The Moody Blues still play great live, but I always wanted to see mr. Pinder with the Mellotron on stage; it's something my dad was able to do, which makes me feel like I missed out lots. Oh well.
Maybe one day...
bkev93 3 years ago 2
you are so right. nobody could come close to Mike with the sounds he made with his mellotron, even King crimson and Genesis.
kn1ghtstemplar 3 years ago
Yes, Mike really gave them much of that early sound...the string sound with a lot of reverb which gave them that really big spacey sound on all of those first albums was basically his signature contribution to the bands sound..not to mention his songwriting.
sir60man70 3 years ago 2
Thinking IS the best way to travel !!
WileERobby 3 years ago
Great Interview !
I love spacey people like Mike.
He's intersting to listen to,
customfrank 4 years ago
I always thought that Justin was the heart of The Moodies and Mike was the soul. Pat Moraz never had the same feel for the band's music.
What's left of the band now? Mike's mellotron is gone, Justin threw the great guitar sound he used to have out the window and Tomo has hung up his flute.
As for the rumours claiming that grudges between members is preventing a reunion, maybe they should go back and listen to The Balance. They wrote that, so maybe they should practice what they once preached.
angelomisterioso 4 years ago 7
I haven't read all of the comments, but Mike Pinder really mastered the Mellotron before anyone else. Like many of you, I wish that Mike would do some kind of reunion tour with the rest of band and this would have to include Ray. They'd make a ton of money and satisfy a ton of fans. My only realistic hope would be when the Moody Blues are finally inducted into the HOF and they play together. That will be quite a moment. Hope it happens in my lifetime.
spiderlarry 4 years ago 3
Spiderlarry,
I totally concur with you. I hope a reunion tour/HOF induction happens in THEIR lifetime.
berrygirl964 4 years ago
Well said.
spiderlarry 4 years ago
My favorite video of all the ones you have shared with me Berrygirl! I've already seen it before.
Thanks for the video Redbaron863!
whotles 4 years ago
Mike Pinder is a true musical genius and a great poet as well. I too wish that he was still with the Moodys. His vocal talent and piano/organ was my favorite part of their albums until he left. I hope that they all reconcile and reunite for at least another album and concert, perhaps before too late as with the Beatles.
Lecutious 4 years ago 3
you are quite correct, shug.
dlpine9 4 years ago
Man, he is missed so much in the music of the Moodies!
creepincharley 4 years ago 2
This could be the Give Peace a Chance of these Troubled times. Mike is a very beautiful man. I do love him I have always loved in thru all the changes
geiadude 4 years ago
The Moody Blues were never the same after he departed. They replaced his playing but never ever his ability to make the most meaningful music in the band. I very much miss his music.
skristoferu 4 years ago 5
Yeah Man This is true. However this does not diminish all my beloved Moody Blues!
geiadude 4 years ago
I agree completely. In my opinion, Mike was the heart and social conscience of the band and the his mellotron was what really created the Moody Blues' sound.
sideshowbob71 4 years ago 2
HI BERRY
PINK FLOYD were played together in Africa 2005 and now is the oportunity of MB they are living still please, is the only way of have the old formation of the band
julianblues 4 years ago
this is great! thanks for posting!
porkchop1verizon 4 years ago
Mike a nice man, just a lovely man.
MOODYBLUE222 4 years ago
man... the last two minutes of this are so moving. Great stuff, thanks for posting.
Zepster77 4 years ago
so true..i met the guy about 15 yrs ago..but i was a babbling fool--he was kind..LOL.The guy has depth.
atombomb31458 4 years ago
he talking about the incident with the drummer _- thats is the rhyme of the ancient mariner, you know
biribikan 4 years ago
They were at their peak with Mike in the band and how can you replace that voice. I think roddi525 is right on with his comments.
zippy830 4 years ago
I believe Mike Pinder was the pivotal influence of The Moody Blues new direction and sound in the late sixties. His mysticism, Mellatron, creativity, and talent, resolutely influenced and inspired the others to write some great and classic tracks.
roddi525 4 years ago 2
I 'm not sure that Greame would have been jealous of the Hayward/Pinder collaboration either...that said, I do think (as many pre '74 MB fans did), that there was a magic to the Pinder/Hayward collaboration.Mcartney and Lennon were never as good solo IMHO...same deal here.
AOXOMOXO 4 years ago
What a shame, a few words robbed all of us of the pre 74 Moodies. Still a great band, but in all honesty, not as good as they were with Mike
billphinbrowns 4 years ago
It was reported by the AP Wire Service and made the CBS evening news, about their very chaotic production sessions between release of Second Sojourn and Octave. Rumored that they were unable to communicate except through management. At some point they scrapped an entire albums's worth of multitrack recordings. Anyone else know of this? Had to be more than just friction beween Pinder and Edge.
audiomez 4 years ago
Get this..
I heard that the new large MkII Mellotron from Streetly Electronics was delivered to the soundstage where the Moodies rehearse.
And the words and sheet music to "When You're a Freeman" and "Sun is Still Shining" were seen at Justin's and John's.....
***********Ring********************
Darn..time to wake up.
AOXOMOXO 4 years ago
If you know the E-mail adress of Graeme, please send this clip to it, thanks!
redbaron863 4 years ago
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biribikan 4 years ago
Oh, Michael, I love you, bro! Thank you for all the many hours of music you have sent my way. It helped me through many a "troubled time."
irpacynot 4 years ago
Well said my brother. Thanks for turning me on. What a find! How, where, & when was this done?... and even more important, is there any other interviews of Mike that anyone knows of folks? Good stuff!! We love ya' Mike... So good to hear from you. -a very long fan
irpacnosaj 4 years ago
This appears to be grabbed from the DVD Classic Artists series: "the Moody Blues".
Lots of Pinder reflecting on the band, as well as the other guys too.
3 discs...but only the first one has the interviews - but its great...worth the price in itself. I love it when Justin tells the story about the guy hanging out at a gig for 59 days with the signs telling how the world is going to change when the moodies play ...and when it doesn't he yells at them leaving the hotel for the airport..
AOXOMOXO 4 years ago
Mike Pinder and Justin Hayward were the Moody Blues. I think If Mike had collaborated with Justin on the Blue jays album, it would have been a more complete record. I think Graeme Edge was jealous of Mike Pinder's artistic collaboration with Justin Hayward.
roddi525 4 years ago
I can't believe that a spat between Graeme and Mike is all there is to it. If Justin or John wanted to do it, they'd do it. They used drum machines for TOSOL, SLM, KOTK and most of ST & Dec.; Gordon carries most of the live chores; many fans have been alienated by Graeme's drunken antics for at least the past 20 years; who would cry if Graeme stomped off in a huff because they brought Mike back? There's gotta be more to this story.
aginggaijin 4 years ago
That was really nice...Well said. I forgive you...
xgrouper 4 years ago
Great cap-off to the interview. I hope that this helped bridge some of the chasm of animosity that was purported between the post-Pinder Moodies and Mike. They're all really great people. Thanks for the vid!
SenorSpode 4 years ago
They were my favorite band forever but maybe with age, they're newer stuff is pretty boring. What could be better than a reunion with Mike Pinder. It seems he wants to do it so Grahme, get over yourself. Do it for the music. Moody fans would be coming out of the woodwork for this reunion!
Tuddyboy11 4 years ago
It is my understanding that the "drummer" wrote the beautiful poetry that Mike recited on many of their albums.
cruiserc57d 4 years ago
I love the Moodies & I always thought that Mike's songs were the most philosophical & meaningful though not always the most commercially suucessful.
skristoferu 4 years ago
Is it reasonable to assume that Mike and Graeme must have fallen out at the time of the making of Octave?
clivemonk 4 years ago
mens mighty mine machines digging in the ground. stealing rare minerals where they can be found.
concrete caves with iron doors bury it again.
while a starving frightened world fills the sea with grain.
worldoffreeaccess 4 years ago
What is this from?!
Kevtheguitarist 4 years ago
Look at his Webside. A new double DVD about the Moodies.
redbaron863 4 years ago
I say we throw a big party in Vegas and invite them to have drinks and settle this once and all... imagine just even one tour with all of them. Feel free to email me with real ideas...
SteveCourville 4 years ago
I never knew this...I went to the Moodies xmas party in 84 on a boat on the Thames and Graeme said if Mike showed up they would just set him up at the side of the stage... I can't believe Graeme would still hold a grudge. We all move on...
Gawd927 4 years ago
If Graeme said that then he meant that it was all over. I wish I could meet them at an x-mas party, but I was born 3 decades too late.
Kevtheguitarist 4 years ago
Oh, I hate to rub it in, but I met the guys several times. I'm also in the Wildest Dreams Video. If you give me an email address, I can send you a couple of pics..Thanks for the reply.
Gawd927 4 years ago
I love the moodies,my favourite was mike pinder such wonderful meaningful songs.
worldoffreeaccess 5 years ago
We should send this clip to the Emailadress of Graeme.
Do anybody know his adress?
redbaron863 5 years ago
Last February, Asia reunited and went on tour together after 23 years. I figure if John Wetton and Steve Howe can bury the hatchet, surely Mike Pinder and Graeme Edge can.
Jelperman 5 years ago
Mike Pinder should just suck it up, go to a Moody Blues show, and apologize in person to Graeme.
UU2 5 years ago
To Mike Pinder, As long as you both live it's never too late to say I'm sorry face to face.
reneecalling 5 years ago 2
This man was the soul of the group and they were never the same after he left
1986pacecar 5 years ago
Thanks for posting this. haven't seen before
MoodiesFan 5 years ago
Hey Mike - good interview. And a nice 30" monitor. Keep me in mind if you want to unload it.
AstoriaMichelle 5 years ago