Not only "The Hollywood Squares" was canceled, "High Rollers" w/future "Jeopardy!" host Alex Trebek and "Chain Reaction" w/ the late Bill Cullen were canceled. A week later, ABC pulled the plug on "The $20,000 Pyramid".
Hey Peter Marshall this the best tv game show host of all time hands down and hats off to Peter Marshall hosting which truned out to become a 15 year run classic.
It is amazing that he didn't mention Paul Lynde, even if Lynde was still alive at the time and he only mentioned stars that had died. Paul Lynde made that show.
I watched the show growing up and had stopped watching by this time, like most others. That's why it was canceled.
Wayland Flowers was creepy. He said that he grew up in a house without a father and was smothered by his older female relatives that he lived with, giving rise to this alter ego.
The cancellation had to do w/repeated time slot changes in the last coupla years (though Lynde's 1979 departure def didn't help matters), as related by Peter in his book a few years ago...as for Wayland, he supposedly had a Norman Bates-type relationship w/his mother, who was the basis for Madame...in his book, Bob Eubanks recalled hearing Wayland in his All-Star Secrets dressing room arguing w/Madame!
Numerous time slot changes for TV shows generally mean that the show is failing and the network is trying last ditch efforts to save it - which rarely work. The show had run its course, its biggest draws were gone and there wasn't much reason to keep it on other than sentimentality, which in TV is no reason at all.
am i the only one who thinks that they should've told the stars to just give their answers?the guy obviously couldn't win 5 matches, but the woman could've and i think that if it hadn't been for the fact that they didn't, she probably would've been able to do so.)
it is a sad statment in what has happend to game shows today this was won of the best by the way 20000 pyrmaid was cancelled exactly one wek later man i was crushed
I think it was really unprofessional and annoying how Waylon Flowwers kept making stupid and unfunny jokes. The least he could have done was pick up on the hints Peter Marshall was giving him.
it's all scripted and it's part of the show that the middle square tell jokes as they did. they were doing their job, and it was funny and entertaining for the time.
But the commentors point was that Peter was emphasizing that the contestants can win a lot of prizes on the final show. So the MC was just trying to speed it along.
ok, I guess I didn't see it. The center square always yacked a lot and I didn't really hear or notice that the MC was trying to speed anything up, but ok.
Yes, game shows are so dull now compared to the Hollywood Squares. They try to tart them up with flashing lights and fancy graphics but it doesn't work; still boring. The remake of the Hollywood Squares was awful too, mainly because today's "stars" are unappealing.
I have to admit. The best part of this last NBC show was when they used the buzzer. This was the only time it was used on the daytime show and the last time this one was used. I believe they used a different type in Vegas. People have told me that was the worst thing we could have heard-it signaled the end of a wonderful show.
I still can't believe that on his final show, Peter thanked George Gobel, Rose Marie, Vincent Price, Wally Cox, and Charlie Weaver... but NOT Paul Lynde! That is weird.
1) Paul lynde was very much alive when the NBC run ended. In fact, he died after the Las Vegas season was over with, which ran for a year after this last NBC show was broadcast.
2) Paul had a tiff with whomever and left in a huff. He came back for the Las Vegas run, but was still his bitchy self.
@scifiradioguy Actually the real reason that Paul Lynde left was, according his profile on "Biography", that he felt he was entitled to more money (and when they moved the nighttime "Squares" to Vegas, knowing that they'd need him back in the center square, sort of gave in to his demands; according to the recent Lynde bio "Center Square").
I was five when the show went off the air, and just got out of kindergarten. Sometimes I'd like to go back to the 70s where I can see all of these great game shows again.
And Paul didn't leave the show on good terms. Contract dispute, and he blamed his HS stint for ruining his film career.
I knew Paul from 1979 until his death in 1982. Very quiet guy, very funny after one drink and after 5 or 6 one of the nastiest drunks I've ever known. He had a real drinking problem even before HS though. Watch his later appearances in Bewitched. In most of them he's so sloshed he can't even deliver his lines without slurring.
What film career? Wasn't his last film that "Rabbit Test" bomb? He was a TV star best showcased in small doses as on "Hollywood Squares" and "Bewitched". He was not a leading man, although he fancied himself one.
You're right about all of that. I once asked him how he expected to be a leading man without a trailing man. He must have been sober at the time because all he did was laugh.
It's fascinating to me to hear from a contemporary who knew an icon such as Paul Lynde. He was evidently a supreme wag, too bad about the nasty personality flaw. Do you have a web site or blog wit more info about Mr Lynde? I'd like to learn more about the gentleman. Thanks in advance!
And thank God for that, considering Wayland and Madame's clowning around took up so much time, there was no way to complete that 5th match that would've netted her the $25K cash/prize package they gave undefeated champs.
Yeah, well, they should've given them each half the prize package. Each would get $5,000 and a car. They would still both play Pick-a-Star-Win-a-Prize.
That's kinda what they did on the Split Second finale (the champ got the car he wanted, but didn't win, while his opponents split the $1K cash bonus).
Yeah or IMO they since they also had a heritage as a comedy based game rather than a straight game oriented format (as evidenced by the slowing down of the game by Madame) they should have gave the $25k in cash and cars to the winner of the MOST GAMES like the syndie version. did and the runner up would play PSWP with four of the stars having the $5k and five having nice prizes($1,500-$3,000)
maybe Merrill and Bob didnt care because they probably were saving it up for the prize budget for the Vegas version. kinda far fetched but to those producers every dollar counts.
BTW
I'm a big fan of the Game Show Talk and fun
show that you contribute to with Dave Hammond and mtiller
my thoughts exactly, (they should've told ALL the stars to just give their answers and just forget the jokes. i know they probably wanted it to be like a regular show and i understand that, BUT because of how much was at stake, i think that she kinda got screwed.)
Fred Silverman is a moron. He killed _Beverly Hillbillies_ when he was at CBS. He was also largely responsible for the original cast of _Saturday Night Live_ leaving.
Perhaps even worse is the fact that he was responsible for _The Waltons_ getting on television.
Two other game shows aired their final episodes on the same day as this on NBC, "Chain Reaction" with Bill Cullen and "High Rollers" with Alex Trebek. A 90 minute talk show with David Letterman took its place. It was off the air in about 5 months.
Madame is actually the f-word. They redubbed this, rather than just bleeping it out.
vnisanianisback 5 months ago
come on you tube ever since you change your page just about every video i click on hesitats or feezes
savammy 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Had that turd burglar, Paul Lynde, croaked by this time? Did he die of the deadly AIDS?
miamad 1 year ago
At 2:41, it sounds like someone's farting
charliethemaddawg 1 year ago
the puppet had a big softball line (annoying noise) thrown at him but just let it go by.
hebber1961 1 year ago
What year is this?
The10285dollars 1 year ago
And today marks 30 years since this episode aired. I can't believe it's been that long already.
SP84Fanatic 1 year ago
Not only "The Hollywood Squares" was canceled, "High Rollers" w/future "Jeopardy!" host Alex Trebek and "Chain Reaction" w/ the late Bill Cullen were canceled. A week later, ABC pulled the plug on "The $20,000 Pyramid".
usa02 1 year ago
Madame was the Smedley of the late 1970's.
rksncu 2 years ago
"It's Fred. He says he's sorry." LOL
Hondo20132 2 years ago
Let me know what you think of this quip for the $5,000 cash prize.
"I have good news and bad news. The bad news is that you didn't win one thing. The good news is you won five thousand things."
Tubewings 2 years ago
I cant believe after this show, Peter went from 'The Master' to 'The Cheapskate.
c3section 2 years ago
Hey Peter Marshall this the best tv game show host of all time hands down and hats off to Peter Marshall hosting which truned out to become a 15 year run classic.
9409312 2 years ago
Yes, he is a perfect presenter. It's just that the shows he hosted after that put a cloud over his career.
I was shocked when I saw him on "The Reel to Reel Picture Show". First in glee then in disappointment.
c3section 2 years ago
Could someone post the entire show? Peter gave a very special welcome to Rose Marie at the beginning.
Lupton2000 2 years ago
i have the episode. It will take a while to do this. Thanks.
pressmin 2 years ago
Paul Lynde was still alive
pacmannick 2 years ago
It is amazing that he didn't mention Paul Lynde, even if Lynde was still alive at the time and he only mentioned stars that had died. Paul Lynde made that show.
I watched the show growing up and had stopped watching by this time, like most others. That's why it was canceled.
Wayland Flowers was creepy. He said that he grew up in a house without a father and was smothered by his older female relatives that he lived with, giving rise to this alter ego.
meanwiddlekid 2 years ago 3
I agree- I used to watch mainly to see and hear what Paul would say and how he would react.
Flowers was a total jerk. They could have cut and re-did the sequence and told him to shut his mouth other than answer the questions.
bigred997 2 years ago
Yeah...how could you not mention Paul?
smoothpants 2 years ago 2
@smoothpants He faggot to.
tryithere 1 year ago
The cancellation had to do w/repeated time slot changes in the last coupla years (though Lynde's 1979 departure def didn't help matters), as related by Peter in his book a few years ago...as for Wayland, he supposedly had a Norman Bates-type relationship w/his mother, who was the basis for Madame...in his book, Bob Eubanks recalled hearing Wayland in his All-Star Secrets dressing room arguing w/Madame!
WhatsAYak 2 years ago
Numerous time slot changes for TV shows generally mean that the show is failing and the network is trying last ditch efforts to save it - which rarely work. The show had run its course, its biggest draws were gone and there wasn't much reason to keep it on other than sentimentality, which in TV is no reason at all.
meanwiddlekid 2 years ago
@meanwiddlekid They reason they probably didn't mention Lynde was because he left the show on his own.
disneyfan81 1 year ago
am i the only one who thinks that they should've told the stars to just give their answers?the guy obviously couldn't win 5 matches, but the woman could've and i think that if it hadn't been for the fact that they didn't, she probably would've been able to do so.)
Imwolfe2junior 2 years ago
Wheel of Fortune almost got cannceled
pacmannick 2 years ago
Just think, the same Hollywood now gives us "great" shows like Suvivor and etc. I wonder when they will be on TV Land...
schs1977 3 years ago
it is a sad statment in what has happend to game shows today this was won of the best by the way 20000 pyrmaid was cancelled exactly one wek later man i was crushed
loutenore33 3 years ago 6
When Paul Lynde left the show went downhill
pacmannick 3 years ago 5
It just seems like poetic justice that in the final endgame of the final NBC Hollywood Squares episode, they gave away the $5,000 bonus prize.
As of this coming Friday (it is now 6/15/2008 as I write this), 28 years will have passed since HS ended its network run.
dnm728 3 years ago
I think it was really unprofessional and annoying how Waylon Flowwers kept making stupid and unfunny jokes. The least he could have done was pick up on the hints Peter Marshall was giving him.
jimyjam99 3 years ago
it's all scripted and it's part of the show that the middle square tell jokes as they did. they were doing their job, and it was funny and entertaining for the time.
desperategirl932 3 years ago
But the commentors point was that Peter was emphasizing that the contestants can win a lot of prizes on the final show. So the MC was just trying to speed it along.
deric8 3 years ago
ok, I guess I didn't see it. The center square always yacked a lot and I didn't really hear or notice that the MC was trying to speed anything up, but ok.
desperategirl932 3 years ago
They just don't make funny gameshows like this anymore........truely a classic that can't be topped. I only watched it for the humor.
Mowac 3 years ago
Yes, game shows are so dull now compared to the Hollywood Squares. They try to tart them up with flashing lights and fancy graphics but it doesn't work; still boring. The remake of the Hollywood Squares was awful too, mainly because today's "stars" are unappealing.
moorlock2003 3 years ago 4
I have to admit. The best part of this last NBC show was when they used the buzzer. This was the only time it was used on the daytime show and the last time this one was used. I believe they used a different type in Vegas. People have told me that was the worst thing we could have heard-it signaled the end of a wonderful show.
sylviabh8ule 3 years ago
What was Peter Marshall's real name?
pnull 3 years ago
Pierre LaCock
dnm728 3 years ago
Is it just me or would Peter Marshall have made
a great BATMAN...IN his 30's he was the spitting
image of the millionaire playboy Bruce Wayne
clintbronson5 3 years ago
It's not just you. I thought the same thing. Handsome, wasn't he?
ClarenceFisher 3 years ago
Pete LaCock. No joke- His son, Peter Junior, was a first baseman/outfielder for the Chicago Cubs in the 1970's.
bigred997 3 years ago
@bigred997 He also played for the Kansas City Royals in the late 70's at 1B.
DENo1MatchGameFan 2 years ago
@DENo1MatchGameFan
yes, i remember when they traded him.had one decent year with the cubs and then was a bust but had trade value.
bigred997 2 years ago
As I could recall, he didn't really do too bad for the Royals - didn't realize that he was Peter's son until later on.
DENo1MatchGameFan 2 years ago
Ain't it great! Peter's 78. Happy Birthday. 3-30-08.
mkl62 3 years ago
Actually, Peter turned 82 yesterday - he was born in 1926. He STILL is 'the MASTER' of "The Hollywood Squares!"
DENo1MatchGameFan 3 years ago 3
Yeah, Paul Lynde made that show for years - he obviously ticked off alot of people there.
alankendrick 3 years ago
I still can't believe that on his final show, Peter thanked George Gobel, Rose Marie, Vincent Price, Wally Cox, and Charlie Weaver... but NOT Paul Lynde! That is weird.
jdohe 3 years ago
He didn't because of two reasons:
1) Paul lynde was very much alive when the NBC run ended. In fact, he died after the Las Vegas season was over with, which ran for a year after this last NBC show was broadcast.
2) Paul had a tiff with whomever and left in a huff. He came back for the Las Vegas run, but was still his bitchy self.
scifiradioguy 3 years ago
@scifiradioguy Actually the real reason that Paul Lynde left was, according his profile on "Biography", that he felt he was entitled to more money (and when they moved the nighttime "Squares" to Vegas, knowing that they'd need him back in the center square, sort of gave in to his demands; according to the recent Lynde bio "Center Square").
disneyfan81 1 month ago
"It's from Fred. He says he's sorry." LOL at Madame opening that envelope!
TVLubber 3 years ago
I was five when the show went off the air, and just got out of kindergarten. Sometimes I'd like to go back to the 70s where I can see all of these great game shows again.
RolandTaylorJr 4 years ago
Amazing that he didn't mention Paul Lynde.
jdohe 4 years ago
Why Peter was "Master of the Hollywood Squares" the best
djackino 4 years ago 2
Peter mentioning both Charley Weaver and Wally Cox was a nice touch.
mlabot 4 years ago
Yes, it was, though I notice he didn't mention Paul Lynde.
stoogeswoman 4 years ago
I think Mr. Marshal was thanking only dead members of the cast. Paul Lynde died two years after this show aired.
Drivermatic 4 years ago
And Paul didn't leave the show on good terms. Contract dispute, and he blamed his HS stint for ruining his film career.
I knew Paul from 1979 until his death in 1982. Very quiet guy, very funny after one drink and after 5 or 6 one of the nastiest drunks I've ever known. He had a real drinking problem even before HS though. Watch his later appearances in Bewitched. In most of them he's so sloshed he can't even deliver his lines without slurring.
JDRoberto2005 3 years ago
What film career? Wasn't his last film that "Rabbit Test" bomb? He was a TV star best showcased in small doses as on "Hollywood Squares" and "Bewitched". He was not a leading man, although he fancied himself one.
moorlock2003 3 years ago
You're right about all of that. I once asked him how he expected to be a leading man without a trailing man. He must have been sober at the time because all he did was laugh.
JDRoberto2005 3 years ago
It's fascinating to me to hear from a contemporary who knew an icon such as Paul Lynde. He was evidently a supreme wag, too bad about the nasty personality flaw. Do you have a web site or blog wit more info about Mr Lynde? I'd like to learn more about the gentleman. Thanks in advance!
vasp99 3 years ago
Paul Lynn didnt need to drink to be funny! You never new him.
viking966 3 years ago 3
Do you have the opening theme to this.
scottof83 4 years ago
Yes, I do. Why?
pressmin 4 years ago
If you think I would put a full episode, sorry, I will not. Yes, I do have it, but I'm NOT going to put it on Youtube.
pressmin 4 years ago
And why not? Although I have seen it once.
TVLubber 3 years ago
So that I can hear that Discoized intro.
scottof83 4 years ago
Someone else posted a clean cut of the theme music on here, actually, over stills from the tail end of the series and the Vegas run.
WhatsAYak 3 years ago
Notice the Peter Marshall collectors plate pic during the end of show fee plugs?
heine71 4 years ago
oh wow, she got the $5000
Noraa972 4 years ago
1: You forgot the comma, but 2: That's a great way to end the series!
TVLubber 4 years ago
And thank God for that, considering Wayland and Madame's clowning around took up so much time, there was no way to complete that 5th match that would've netted her the $25K cash/prize package they gave undefeated champs.
WhatsAYak 3 years ago
Yeah, well, they should've given them each half the prize package. Each would get $5,000 and a car. They would still both play Pick-a-Star-Win-a-Prize.
TVLubber 2 years ago
That's kinda what they did on the Split Second finale (the champ got the car he wanted, but didn't win, while his opponents split the $1K cash bonus).
WhatsAYak 2 years ago
Yeah or IMO they since they also had a heritage as a comedy based game rather than a straight game oriented format (as evidenced by the slowing down of the game by Madame) they should have gave the $25k in cash and cars to the winner of the MOST GAMES like the syndie version. did and the runner up would play PSWP with four of the stars having the $5k and five having nice prizes($1,500-$3,000)
SHAMETHEELITISTS 2 years ago
Why didn't they bother to give the 25K away, anyways?
TVLubber 2 years ago
Why couldn't anybody stop them?
TVLubber 2 years ago
maybe Merrill and Bob didnt care because they probably were saving it up for the prize budget for the Vegas version. kinda far fetched but to those producers every dollar counts.
BTW
I'm a big fan of the Game Show Talk and fun
show that you contribute to with Dave Hammond and mtiller
SHAMETHEELITISTS 2 years ago
my thoughts exactly, (they should've told ALL the stars to just give their answers and just forget the jokes. i know they probably wanted it to be like a regular show and i understand that, BUT because of how much was at stake, i think that she kinda got screwed.)
Imwolfe2junior 2 years ago
Fred Silverman is a moron. He killed _Beverly Hillbillies_ when he was at CBS. He was also largely responsible for the original cast of _Saturday Night Live_ leaving.
Perhaps even worse is the fact that he was responsible for _The Waltons_ getting on television.
sageofsuccess 4 years ago 6
Two other game shows aired their final episodes on the same day as this on NBC, "Chain Reaction" with Bill Cullen and "High Rollers" with Alex Trebek. A 90 minute talk show with David Letterman took its place. It was off the air in about 5 months.
bluebear1985 4 years ago
So what year was this? I see another HS clip dating 1979, so was this 1980?
voyage2k 4 years ago
Yes, this is from 1980.
pressmin 4 years ago