i have walked all over dry creek in tennessee and northern alabama where they have been seen and ive never been attacked theyre not totally awful cats they stay to themselves as mcuh as possible
That certainly looks very large to me. Its stalking a deer for chrissake, and the deer seems to be concerned. SOOOOO many people have reported sightings of these things, credible detailed sightings. They can't ALL be house cats, for crying out loud! They found JAGUARS here in Arizona a little while ago, who's to say there can't be black cats in the south?
I guess video like this will finally put to rest Alabama Game and Fish Dept.'s official stand on panthers in the state. Eventhough very credible people for years have reported seeing big cats in this state, the official word has always been: "No. Not possible. Must've been a big bobcat" In fact, their stand was always so firm that it made one think that maybe they knew something. Anyway, I'm glad to have my sighting of 20 years ago admonished. The cat I saw was brindle and not black.
@NightOpsProduction Credible people have been seeing the tan variety (Florida Panther?) in this area for decades, but It just gets tiring to have the authorities say that eventhough they weren't there, they know what it was you saw and it wasn't what you think it was.
Several years ago while camping at Myakka State Park, my grandfather happened upon a Jag while taking an early morning stroll down a nature trail. I think he said he wet himself.
It's not called a Florida Panther, and it's NOT a 'Variety' or I think what you meant was sub-species...
It's called a Couger... Or Puma, or Mountain Lion. Depending on it's climate. And Cougers live literally EVERYWHERE in the U.S. and MUCH of Canada, Mexico, and most of South America. What your states fish and game department is saying is there's no such thing as a Black Couger! Or they're being idiots and claiming you didn't see a-
@kingmackattack42 -a Black Big cat. (Sorry, ran out of characters.) I don't doubt ya'll have seen Melanstic (Black) Big cats. However they were Leopard's or Jaguars. Leopards and Jag's are the ONLY Big cat capable of having a Genetic Mutation and becoming black. (Melanstic/black is the oppisite of Albino, Melanstic is to much pigment instead of too little.)
Ive never personally seen a black panther but i have heard one of them in oklahoma when i was camping. It sounded like a woman got stabbed. And thats not all, the next morning i went hiking and found some huge cat paw prints. Then were about as big as my hand. They are real, no doubt.
There's no such thing as a black Couger. And second, the couger and panther are THE SAME THING. There's no such thing as a panther. Panther is a sub-family of big cats that include Lions, Tigers, Cougers, Leopards and Jaguars.
I saw a black panther in the rural community of Aimwell, Alabama in Marengo County in 2009, I walked right up on it. The panther was lying down in some tall grass on a windy day. I guess he did not hear me coming until I was within about 4 feet of it. When it saw me, it jumped up a ran away. I don't know who was more afraid, me or the panther.
Thank goodness Annie "Did Not" shoot it! We need more conservationists coming up through the ranks. I think she would make a good candidate. Annie drop your gun and keep up with the great videos!!
ive seen them in northwest texas they are real and will make your hair stand up! ive seen our hunters with a game cam pic of a verry big long tail spotted cat also.
@NightOpsProduction 400 miles is a long walk, but we have been seeing them for years, there is a population, we have seen them in pair's also one of these days i will get a shot on one
@caseyclem69 400 Miles is not at all a long way to walk for an animal. Animals don't have houses you know. They have territories that stretch out hundreds of miles. 400 Miles is not at all a long way. And there is a small population in the U.S. ya know...
I was coyote hunting outside of tuskegee it was getting dark and i was trying to walk across a fairly deep creep and came around a bend and saw one tearing ass up a steep back to get away from me that was the longest walk back to my jeep ever
black panthers are real i have seen and heard them all my life people that say that there not real go stay a couple of nights in the woods any where in the south why in the hell did you not shoot it
there are enough reports of black cats all over the us people are seeing something it is possible for several of these animals to get loose and start a population from exotic pet owners there are more exotic cats people own than in zoo's this looks real
Just a Black Mountain Lion...they say they don't have the melanistic gene but they have confirmed reports of melanistic specimens. The gene is just rarer in the species. Anyone can look at that that knows anything about wild felines and say it's shape, gate and appearance is that of a Mountain Lion...not a Jaguar.
we have them here in pa too we think the game commission turned them loose too,just like they brought the coyotes into this state but it was the insurance companies that paid for them to kill off deer and the bastards lye and say they didnt do it,,kill all of these things you see it could be our grand babies that get carried out of our backyard by these things...to the pgc we shot a coyote in pa that had a wisconsin tag in its ear so dont piss down our back and tell us its rainin
@gmhd67 Dude Coyote expansion was a result of exterminating the wolf and the creation of habitat that more suited their open south Western native habitat. The spread of Coyotes happened rather gradually and was scientifically documented. They hit the Illinois area around 1970 and gradually spread east. In Yellow stone where they have released wolves the coyotes aren't doing so hot and their numbers have fallen dramatically.
most likely it is a melanistic mountain lion. Melanism, or an unusual amount of dark pigmentation, occurs in all cat species including leopards, jaguars, and mountain lions
@erasering It must be a Youtube rule: if there is a video of a rare beautiful animal minding its own business, there has to be at least one inbred who posts about shooting it. God bless the south.
@papawest if you saw a large predator that would eat you with a smile on its face i think i would do the same thing erasering would. ive dragged deer carcasses out of the woods with coyotes following me the whole way. but if a black panther showed up, there would be no questioning, letting him live is not a risk im willing to take
thats a mountain lion, we've got 1 at our hunting camp nobody ever messes with, it's black and i guarantee that's what that is, a black mountain lion.
Actually, unless that was someone's pet, it's a black jaguar. Though it's extremely difficult to differentiate the two when they have the melanistic (all black) coats. But Alabama actually used to be part of the jaguar's natural range but the pioneers and later people drove them off back into central and south america. chances are it was a jag, and the fact that they are coming back into North America gives us a chance to do it right this time. They have just as much right to the land as we do.
@Riverweasel09, at my hunting camp you can hear the cries, everybody who seen it said its just a black mountain lion, but if its a jaguar thats bad ass (i live in alabama)
@Riverweasel09 You might change your mind if your child was attacked waiting for the bus Or your wife while she was out for her morning walk. Maybe 200 years ago, but not today in the lower 48- to populated.
i dont know what they are but i saw one setting up outside while i was n my grandparents house in mullens west virginia looking out the window and my grand-maw and my mom saw it too and im telling you the think was huge and it was sitting down i got a pretty good look at it to considering i was only about 20 ft away, thank gosh i was n a house....lol
Back in Nov, of 05', i saw one in MS, but it was blue like a pitbull color, with detail muscle structure block feet, have anyone ever seen a silver like blue panther?
I also found where 1 melanistic Bobcat was trapped in the North East while Florida has examined over 10 melanistic Bobcats. There appears to be more mealism the farther south with the Bobcat. Just remember that Mealanism is very very rare in Bobcats and Mountain Lions but more prevalent in Jaguars and Leapords...I didn't actually believe it existed until I started to do research on legitimate scientific papers.
Actually I finally found documentation of a black mountain lion that was trapped and killed in Colorado...and then thoroughly researched
BARNES, C. 1960. The cougar or mountain lion.
The Ralton Co., Salt Lake City.
There has also been a swarm of sightings in California with a outdoor writer "wildlife expert" observing at close range (30 yards in daylight) and documenting it with other witnesses. He said it was definitely a melanistic mountain lion.
@shawnerTboner A mountain lion is a panther. Therefore a black mountain lion is a black panther. We don't call them mountain lions because we don't live in the mountains! And if you thought that was a dog, get some glasses.
@TheOutlawWeasel theres no such thing as a black mountain lion. unless you have proof, there is no suuch thing. all mountain lions are a light orange color. there are none tht are black.
@YoMathidge09 My response was actually to "its probaly just a black mt. lion!!" and that mountain lions are panthers. I can't say if the large black cats in Alabama (which do exist) are 'Puma concolor' or not.
@TheOutlawWeasel What? A mountain lion is only CALLED Panther, but it isn't. A panther is a cat, that belongs to the Panthera subspecies. And only four cats belong to them: Leopard (panthera pardus), Jaguar (panthera onca), Tiger (panthera tigris) and lion (panthera leo). Cougar (puma concolor) is a own subspecie and is only in the US, sometimes called panther, nowhere else. And this name is totaly wrong, it's a lack of knowledge. Also there are NO melanism (black) forms of cougars prooven.
Totally believe this. Saw a big cat/ panther like this one at 1 a.m coming up the hill into Pine Hill one night on my way home from Marion. Say what you want but those suckers are real. Heard of them my whole life
I am originally from Selma and i saw one of these off of Summerfield road leaving Selma and was told by someone else a week later that they saw one 2 miles away from there without me saying i had seen one. They are definitely there it's THICK woods in all directions
I seen the monsterquest episode about these cats and couldn't believe they are not suppose to be real. I've grew up all my life hearing stories and even heard them, like one comment says they sound like a woman screaming. I live in upstate SC and my family has a home video of one of these panthers on our back porch and u can also hear the cry. Panthers in the U.S are for real.
@MxGreen767 IF your family truly has a home video of a black panther on a backporch, it would be amazing to see it posted ot you tube. You alone can possibly settle the debate of "do they exist here" YOu may even get paid for the footage. IT seems every person who has video, has shaky poor quality video. If you post your video you will be a hero.
they not just in the lower u.s. there on there way up cuz ive went around my town in virgina its close to west VA and ive had 73 people tell me they see a big black cat !?
hi im from the uk and theres always been rumours about these big cats in the rural area i live in. i know people who have seen them and i believe they do exist. the only issue i have with most of these videos is that the majority of the time its just a black domestic cat or a large dog... but this video pretty much proves it! i know its in the US, but we have plenty of deer, rabbits and pheasants that big cats could live on easily! great vid cheers
Im planning going to Alabama for a holiday, do any of you yank hick bastards know the best place i can take my sister for a romantic southern meal of grilled squirrel? im going to ask her to marry me in Alabama because it's illegal for some reason in Scotland.
saw one around Purvis, Mississippi along the interstate. heard of them all my life. I've even heard them in the woods something you can't forget, sounds like a woman screaming. and yet everyone claims they don't exist. Also my aunt seen a big cat on her deer stand just wasn't black, and too big to be a bobcat plus the tail was wrong. She didn't shoot it cause it had a baby with it.
I believe what we have in our locale and what we are seeing in this video is a melanistic (black) puma concolor (mountain lion). I HOPE that's the case any way, because Jaguars are much larger and much more fierce! Science puts the Jaguar on par with the other GREAT cats like the lion and tiger. Either way, both of these cats are mostly nocturnal. How easy is it to see a coal black cat in the dark? It's really not difficult to see how they remain so elusive.
We have some of these in Illinois. My husband has seen one multiple times on our land. I've done alot of research on it and here are the facts. In America there are two large cats. Puma Concolor which is known as Mountain Lion, Cougar, Puma, Panther...etc. They are only know to be tawny...there has never been a VERIFIED black one. The second big cat documented in southwest America is the Jaguar (Panthera Onca). It can be spotted or solid black.
There are no panthers in the U.S. There may be a genetic mutation where a puma has a black coat, but that would be it. And this video is of a domestic black cat... Also, a lot of people who left a comment on this video have horrible grammar, and they're the ones saying "stories" about panthers in the U.S. Coincidence?
(Yawning...) please go look up the definitions for the words you're arguing about. Mountain Lion, Cougar, Puma, Panther, Catamount are ALL accepted by zoology pertaining to the same cat in America- Puma Concolor. It's really just a regional difference. You say tomato I say tomawto...It's all good.
Actually, you are wrong. A panther does not pertain to that list; a panther is on par with a leopard, only its black. The Jaguar is not in southwest America, it is in South and Central America, and you're right, it can be black or covered with rosettes. But it is not in the U.S.
I don't want to argue...go look it up. The info is readily accessible to anyone from any search engine. Jaguars are verified in Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. And you're HALF right on the statement about panthers and leopards. In OTHER countries they interchange those two names but in America...panther is used for Puma concolor. Like I said, just check your facts, it's all there.
I'm sorry, buddy, but you're wrong. Jaguars are not in Arizona, New Mexico, Texas or in any other part of the U.S. And I was partly wrong with panther, the word is now generic for leopard, jaguar, lion or tiger, no other cat. You tell me to look it up, but really you should. Thinking that there are wild jaguars in the U.S. is laughable.
Wow, I guess I could be wrong... But seriously do not want to admit it! I've been fond of big cats since I was in kindergarden, I don't know how I missed such a discovery, I'll blame it on alcohol. I will continue to do some more research, but for stating your statement was laughable, I apologize.
I'm used to those statements. My family has been seeing cougars for the last 100 years in Illinois- east of the Mississippi, where they are not supposed to be habitating. DNR in Illinois is only now admitting that they're here...someday they'll realize we where right about the black ones too!
That's interesting because we have seen tracks as far north as Morton Grove. The DNR always clams up. For the most part, they have been coming back for the past 20 years, and with no major interactions with humans. As long as everyone learns how to coexist, there should be no worries.
Lot of Deer in Illinois. They, like wolves and Bears, are very important in keeping herds healthy, and disease low.
Love having them, but I always hike armed. Two legged nuts are more dangerous than four!
@tommytooclean dude, equine75 is right, camera traps placed along the Mexican border to catch illegal immigrants back in 07 captured on several occasions jaguars crossing into Arizona. Currently, scientists are still studying them.
@tommy: Sorry sir, it's you who are incorrect. Jaguars are native to the Southwest US. The main breeding population is in Mexico, but yeah, they can be found up around Tucson as well as other places. It bodes well for the species, though I would like to see more intensive efforts to get back to a Late Pleistocene ecology.
Well, they're not really native... Some have ventured up towards the U.S., but they really haven't even been officially recogonized as a consistent home for the cats. North Americas only big cat is still officially the puma, but I have also read that there is evidence of them in the U.S., but have a very minute population. But wouldn't your desire to see more intensive efforts to get back to a Late Pleistoce ecology be contradictory to what it is?
@tommy: Not espcially. Large felid predators couldv'e been found throughout the continental US prior to the Younger-Dyras and the Pleistocene Megafaunal extinction. Introduction of such large carnivores would be problematic from a human standpoint, smaller ones like the cheetah would easier.
I never mentioned anything about promoting large mammals in an area where they once were, I said it would be contradictory because a human attempt at such a cause is from what the term's oppositte definition is. But a leopard would be a better fit in North America than a cheetah.
@tommy: I feel otherwise. A cheetha would be a better fit as they are less agressive toward humans and have a specific species that they would be preying on, the Pronghorn. Ever wonder why they're so damn fast? The American cheetah,
But leopards are very shy towards humans, themselves... I would say a leopard would be better because they're more of a survivor, and their diets consist of everything, opportunistic hunters, they are, says Joda.
@tommy: Ah, what you meant, I knew, young Jedi. LOL. It's possible that these are escapees from private owners who don't want to fess up. Or it could be a melanistic strain of the cougar (not Demi Moore-type). The best way to tell outsidfe of a live capture, is get a hair sample with roots and test the DNA. In any event I'd stil like to see that rewiliding our land needs. It's been almost 13 thousand years since we had the biota the continent needs.
@tommytooclean I think if we start slow with the base of the food chain it'll be a good start. Reintroduce some herbivores that have been missing: wild horses, camels, musk oxen, and others. There's a lot of data on the plans for this. It's an interesting read. The biggest stumbling block is between human and carnivores(and elephants).
@tommytooclean: For the herbivores, the national parks is probably an excellent place to start. Small to medium predators I'd want introduce into a game park, like in Texas first and see what their response is and the public response. I'm certain if we could ever reintroduce large predators safely in to the American wilds. It's hard enough with some bear populations.
Hmmm, small to medium predators? Like the Caracal? Or the Ocelot? Little cats like that? Or some Australian Dingo? Such an intense study would be awesome to participate in.
@tommy: I'm thinking along the lines of dholes and cheetas for the predators and bactrian camels, tapiers and llamas for our missing herbivores. BTW, Happy Holidays.
@tommytooclean: Dholes are wild dogs that are now restricted to a few populations in Asia. They used to be native here. We had quite the variety of canids here once. Only the with the exception of C. lupus only smaller ones remain. Reintroduction of other carinvores might balance their number and reduce some of the coyote attacks we see.
my firend eddie hes in 7th grade im in 8th he siad he saw one in the woods when he was reding quads he went in the woods at a park he saw it like idk like 4 times bigger than a regular cat or something an it was balck had a long tail and was hanging out near a rock pile also i think this might be true cause in up state new york people sometimes complain about them someone answer give me an idea if this is possible or if theres another alternative
You just got a great video of a melenisic mountain lion. I think... The body is too narrow and thin to be a Jaguar. Remember there is no such thing as a "panther" They are just "black" (melenisic) varying species of wild cat (like the opposite of albino). You know people in the Midwest have seen these for years..kind of weird. Must be a small population of mountain lions on the mississipi basin that has strong melenisic traits that have never been expirated. Its the only logical answer.
Go to any zoology site and look up the definition of panther. It is one of many commonly accepted terms for the mountain lion, cougar, puma, catamount... Science has never had a documented case of a melanistic cougar and will argue their existence. What you want to call America's second largest cat depends upon what region you're from primarily. They're ALL correct and acceptable.
Correct....however most Americans think "Florida Panthers" are black when in fact they are just another mountain lion same color same everything. The term "panther" is mostly associated with the color "black". That's just how it is.
Nice Vid dude and that lil girl is a hel of a hunter... good buck plus a big black panther on footage...cant get any better than that, my uncle seen one in south texas down in webb county, the cat was 40yrds from him he said it was bout 7ft long and 3.5ft shoulder to ground..he didnt shoot it cuz of his nervousness....
dude, if i were you, i wouldve called animal control on that panther. it couldve attacked and somebody couldve died. black panthers aren't native to alabama.
@dafcymru1 Because if you had a actual corpse of the animal you could study it and prove its existance. And if you prove its exrstince you could help the species by making it protected or maybe putting some in captivity so you can further study them...but thanks for the condecending comment....FREAK
my freinds brother saw a large, adult black cat close enough he could see the spot patterns you see in black leapoards and jaguars....it was not a baby cougar.....the assumption that every one here is see cougars in the shade and thinking they are black is annoying....
last summer i saw one on my friends property in texas, We where messing around sticks rocks and a lot of duck tape when we saw it drinking from a creek.
Yea boy i seen one this past hunting season. In Abbeville, SC. he was about 50 yards away by the time i got the scope on him he was long gone.If i ever see that sucker again he goin on my wall.
There are way to many people here in southeast Alabama who have heard or seen cougars and have seen black ones......cougars have been present here more than 8 years though, because both of my parents talked about hearing them scream as kids in the 40s and 50s......i am asleep when the resident cat here screams in thr creek bottom behind my house (freaks out the neightbors)but I swear I'm gonna set out some kinda recording device to hear it
Yes, missy, juvenile cougars and cubs do appear black sometimes when they still have thier baby markings, but in reality they are covered with dark brown markings set very close together. Cougars do not carry the melanistic variant gene to turn them all black.
I live in southern Alabama too and when me and my friend ride our go carts we used to always hear noises like a woman screaming...then we started thing about a panther but we seriously think ones in our woods...
I saw a big black cat, not the same build as a mountain lion, or "cougar" this one was LONG, LOW to the ground, and B I G. it also had two babies with it.. The tail appeared to be longer than the cat... but it wasnt the "light variation" making it appear black.. it was 20 feet from my vehicle.. middle of a sunny day, in a field. This was in Arkansas, where we don't have "black cats"
Discovery channel had a show, "Monster Quest", that tried to prove the existence of black panthers in the U.S. A lot of scientists were saying they didn't exist in the US, that it's the lighting making them look black. And, that panthers are only in florida and out west now. I don't know. If you spend enough time in the woods you hear stories or have your own stories to tell. My brother swears he saw one in the backwaters of the Chattahoochee between Alabama and Ga.
We live in Southern Alabama, and we have several Black Panthers out here. When they "growl", it sounds like a woman screaming bloody murder! You'll never forget the sound....
no such thing as black panthers, but jagaurs did inhabbit lower north america and was exterminated by man in the early 1800's.. could they still be with us... could they be inbred puma's? who knows... i find this video factual
are you? can you read? i was stating that never once has there been a black mountain lion , puma , or panther ever to be found or in captivity... jaguars and leopards YES.. if thats a large cat in the video its not a mountain lion!!! your not talling me anything that i dont already know.. in america we use pather as another word for cougar.. just like latin america uses it to mean jaguar... sorry to confuse the confused
I'm not confused but I am sorry. Yes in north america the Panther is a name used for the Cougar. The rest of the world use it for the black Jaguars and Leopards.
thats cool... but can i ask you what you think it is? i live in kentucky and there has been several sitings of a black cat, and i have had two siting in a period of 8 or so years of a huge black cat... and another of a regular cougar that wasnt that large but still 3-4 times bigger than a house cat.. its crazy that nobody has killed or trapped one of these bastards if what i seen was real.
The regular Cougar you saw may of been a young Cougar. A black Panther may also be a black Cougar but none have been spotted or found in the wild or in captivity, so Panthers are not really regarded as black Cougars. I'm not sure what cat you saw. It can't be a Leopard so I would put my money on it being a Jaguar. I live in England & we do not have a single big cat here but a large black cat has been spotted in my area a few times. People think it is a Leopard but I'm not to sure.
no shit! i was just stating above if you even read that far was that, there hasnt been any record of a black mountian lion to exist, not a jaguar or a leopard which are well documented to be black... i live in america but when the word pather is exercised we tend to relate it to mountain lions or puma's. its a regional term...
actually... you made the statement "no such thing as black panthers" you didn't say black mountain lions..
On a side note, if you look at the range of the large cats of the americas, it would most likely be a mountain lion..
Even though there is no scientific evidence of one "nothing is real unless an educated person finds it, or sees it for himself" there should be no reason genetically that a "melanistic" mountain lion should be ruled out.
Actually llama, google a picture of a mountain lion cub, many of them are quite dark, although this appearence is caused by brown markings set closer together on some cubs than others.
Many "Black Panther" reports that we receive are these juveniles who haven't lost their baby markings yet.
For the record, that's a regular old house cat in this video. The buck itself isn't that big, first or second year rack on it, tops. The close downward camera angle gives the impression that it's bigger than it is but you see in the third shot, in contrast to the broomscrub alongside the clearing, it isn't that big, nor is the cat by that comparison. Yes the tail is long and has an abnormality to it, but how do you know that a house cat will be a good mouser? Long ears and a long tail.
Not unless you're talking about African American political activists. There are many laws on the books about Florida panthers, yellow or tawny coloured cats, because they are on the endangered list, but nowhere is there a law that uses the specific wording of "black panther."
This rumour has existed for as long as I've held my wildlife biologist degree, and longer, and was probably created by people claiming to have seen said cats.
Newspaper reporter: Why didn't you shoot it, you had a gun?
Hoaxer: Well, they're protected animals, there's laws against shooting them.
There isn't, in fact there is a caveat to every law about shooting predatory endangered species, if they pose a threat you CAN shoot them. I call it the "They was comin' right for us," law.
But the Jaguar appears to be making it's way back, dwayne. A friend of mine sent me footage from Arizona of two young males and a picture of another young cat that didn't reveal sex.
Don't believe the official reports about there being no cougars in the interior either, they're there, just not in big enough numbers to make a signficant impact
i have walked all over dry creek in tennessee and northern alabama where they have been seen and ive never been attacked theyre not totally awful cats they stay to themselves as mcuh as possible
htslittleman 1 week ago
panther!!!!!
pantherandgrizzly 2 months ago
That certainly looks very large to me. Its stalking a deer for chrissake, and the deer seems to be concerned. SOOOOO many people have reported sightings of these things, credible detailed sightings. They can't ALL be house cats, for crying out loud! They found JAGUARS here in Arizona a little while ago, who's to say there can't be black cats in the south?
Stillwater900 2 months ago
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snowboardhottie0000 3 months ago
I love the multi-cam edits on this..."fooks"!
cellularrobotics 3 months ago
I like the video
niceguy1060 4 months ago
This looks Genuine to me and its a black LEOPARD
dryzonemexico 4 months ago
it could be a melanistic mountain lion..melanism happens more commonly than thought in leopards jaguars and mountian lions
TyPocalypseNow 5 months ago
Nice video nice cat!
niceguy1060 6 months ago
I guess video like this will finally put to rest Alabama Game and Fish Dept.'s official stand on panthers in the state. Eventhough very credible people for years have reported seeing big cats in this state, the official word has always been: "No. Not possible. Must've been a big bobcat" In fact, their stand was always so firm that it made one think that maybe they knew something. Anyway, I'm glad to have my sighting of 20 years ago admonished. The cat I saw was brindle and not black.
kingmackattack42 6 months ago
@kingmackattack42 *Facepalm* Yeah, that's no bobcat. It's built like a (Yes, you guessed it) Jaguar.
It's not umcommon for a Jag to wander up to Alabama. it could also be an escaped Black Leopard from a nearby zoo/circus or someones pet.
Why are you people so conspiracy about Black Panthers? You treat them like Bigfoot. They're real people. Geesh.
NightOpsProduction 6 months ago
@NightOpsProduction Credible people have been seeing the tan variety (Florida Panther?) in this area for decades, but It just gets tiring to have the authorities say that eventhough they weren't there, they know what it was you saw and it wasn't what you think it was.
Several years ago while camping at Myakka State Park, my grandfather happened upon a Jag while taking an early morning stroll down a nature trail. I think he said he wet himself.
kingmackattack42 6 months ago
@kingmackattack42 Good for your grandfather.
Now, *facepalm*
It's not called a Florida Panther, and it's NOT a 'Variety' or I think what you meant was sub-species...
It's called a Couger... Or Puma, or Mountain Lion. Depending on it's climate. And Cougers live literally EVERYWHERE in the U.S. and MUCH of Canada, Mexico, and most of South America. What your states fish and game department is saying is there's no such thing as a Black Couger! Or they're being idiots and claiming you didn't see a-
NightOpsProduction 5 months ago
@kingmackattack42 -a Black Big cat. (Sorry, ran out of characters.) I don't doubt ya'll have seen Melanstic (Black) Big cats. However they were Leopard's or Jaguars. Leopards and Jag's are the ONLY Big cat capable of having a Genetic Mutation and becoming black. (Melanstic/black is the oppisite of Albino, Melanstic is to much pigment instead of too little.)
NightOpsProduction 5 months ago
i know yall aint from alabama i didnt hear no gun fire ! Yee Haw
badbubbagreen 6 months ago
Ive never personally seen a black panther but i have heard one of them in oklahoma when i was camping. It sounded like a woman got stabbed. And thats not all, the next morning i went hiking and found some huge cat paw prints. Then were about as big as my hand. They are real, no doubt.
HorrorAtic 6 months ago
@HorrorAtic Yes, Black Panthers are real. They aren't like Bigfoot. *Faceknee*
What you heard was a Couger. Their shouts often sound like a woman screaming. Moreso when they are mating.
NightOpsProduction 6 months ago
@NightOpsProduction im not sure if it was a couger or panther, al i know is that i scared the cfrap out of me
HorrorAtic 6 months ago
@HorrorAtic *FaceMars*
There's no such thing as a black Couger. And second, the couger and panther are THE SAME THING. There's no such thing as a panther. Panther is a sub-family of big cats that include Lions, Tigers, Cougers, Leopards and Jaguars.
NightOpsProduction 6 months ago
I saw a black panther in the rural community of Aimwell, Alabama in Marengo County in 2009, I walked right up on it. The panther was lying down in some tall grass on a windy day. I guess he did not hear me coming until I was within about 4 feet of it. When it saw me, it jumped up a ran away. I don't know who was more afraid, me or the panther.
kvwillmsn79 6 months ago
Thank goodness Annie "Did Not" shoot it! We need more conservationists coming up through the ranks. I think she would make a good candidate. Annie drop your gun and keep up with the great videos!!
MsStanleycat 7 months ago
ive seen them in northwest texas they are real and will make your hair stand up! ive seen our hunters with a game cam pic of a verry big long tail spotted cat also.
caseyclem69 8 months ago
@caseyclem69 Texas? That was definity a Black Jaguar friend. It wasn't a UFO, or bigfoot. But your everyday-wandered-up-from-Mexico-Black Panther.
NightOpsProduction 6 months ago
@NightOpsProduction 400 miles is a long walk, but we have been seeing them for years, there is a population, we have seen them in pair's also one of these days i will get a shot on one
caseyclem69 5 months ago
@caseyclem69 400 Miles is not at all a long way to walk for an animal. Animals don't have houses you know. They have territories that stretch out hundreds of miles. 400 Miles is not at all a long way. And there is a small population in the U.S. ya know...
NightOpsProduction 5 months ago
I was coyote hunting outside of tuskegee it was getting dark and i was trying to walk across a fairly deep creep and came around a bend and saw one tearing ass up a steep back to get away from me that was the longest walk back to my jeep ever
STONEDIMMACULATE8489 8 months ago
Well whatever it is. shoot it. with a camera though. no need in killing predators
houston56able 8 months ago
I believe in black panthers. I have seen one years ago in a field in Michigan. I thought it was cool.
tommythebowler 9 months ago
it is geneticaly impossible for a panther or mountain lion to be black,,any large black cat in western hemishpere is a jaguar
scrambleout 9 months ago
black panthers are real i have seen and heard them all my life people that say that there not real go stay a couple of nights in the woods any where in the south why in the hell did you not shoot it
JohnEganLahunter 9 months ago
one night coon hunting we spotted one in the field. shot it with a .22 12 times and still didnt die. one scary night
TheChaseisbeast 9 months ago
there are enough reports of black cats all over the us people are seeing something it is possible for several of these animals to get loose and start a population from exotic pet owners there are more exotic cats people own than in zoo's this looks real
brian93ist 9 months ago
hopefully morons with guns will leave these big cats alone so they can regain their lost habitats
toyzruskid62 11 months ago
Just a Black Mountain Lion...they say they don't have the melanistic gene but they have confirmed reports of melanistic specimens. The gene is just rarer in the species. Anyone can look at that that knows anything about wild felines and say it's shape, gate and appearance is that of a Mountain Lion...not a Jaguar.
cchanderson 11 months ago
i seen this video somewhere else and it was supposed to be taken in mississippi
THEONLYBIGEAZY 1 year ago
NC has them too. saw one at 40 yards
45coltpeacemaker 1 year ago
we have them here in pa too we think the game commission turned them loose too,just like they brought the coyotes into this state but it was the insurance companies that paid for them to kill off deer and the bastards lye and say they didnt do it,,kill all of these things you see it could be our grand babies that get carried out of our backyard by these things...to the pgc we shot a coyote in pa that had a wisconsin tag in its ear so dont piss down our back and tell us its rainin
gmhd67 1 year ago
@gmhd67 Dude Coyote expansion was a result of exterminating the wolf and the creation of habitat that more suited their open south Western native habitat. The spread of Coyotes happened rather gradually and was scientifically documented. They hit the Illinois area around 1970 and gradually spread east. In Yellow stone where they have released wolves the coyotes aren't doing so hot and their numbers have fallen dramatically.
cchanderson 11 months ago
most likely it is a melanistic mountain lion. Melanism, or an unusual amount of dark pigmentation, occurs in all cat species including leopards, jaguars, and mountain lions
alienufosarereal 1 year ago
du its a black bigfoot
EPICJack1 1 year ago
Note to self: Do not move to panther infested Alabama.
Scampergirl 1 year ago 2
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I got a black panther where i hunt in NC. Theres also a 170 buck walkin around so it looks like i gotta introduce the panther to lead
erasering 1 year ago
i got a black panther up here in NC too. theres also a 170 inch buck walkin around so it looks like i gotta introduce the panther to lead
erasering 1 year ago
@erasering sounds like a great plan!
joshardy25 1 year ago
@erasering It must be a Youtube rule: if there is a video of a rare beautiful animal minding its own business, there has to be at least one inbred who posts about shooting it. God bless the south.
papawest 1 year ago
@papawest if you saw a large predator that would eat you with a smile on its face i think i would do the same thing erasering would. ive dragged deer carcasses out of the woods with coyotes following me the whole way. but if a black panther showed up, there would be no questioning, letting him live is not a risk im willing to take
45coltpeacemaker 1 year ago
thats a mountain lion, we've got 1 at our hunting camp nobody ever messes with, it's black and i guarantee that's what that is, a black mountain lion.
rayrayALA 1 year ago
tbh if this was british i would be shocked ;) but its not so im not to wound up ;)
pingu7613 1 year ago
Actually, unless that was someone's pet, it's a black jaguar. Though it's extremely difficult to differentiate the two when they have the melanistic (all black) coats. But Alabama actually used to be part of the jaguar's natural range but the pioneers and later people drove them off back into central and south america. chances are it was a jag, and the fact that they are coming back into North America gives us a chance to do it right this time. They have just as much right to the land as we do.
Riverweasel09 1 year ago 11
@Riverweasel09 Well said!
noah2142 1 year ago
@Riverweasel09, at my hunting camp you can hear the cries, everybody who seen it said its just a black mountain lion, but if its a jaguar thats bad ass (i live in alabama)
rayrayALA 1 year ago
@Riverweasel09 You might change your mind if your child was attacked waiting for the bus Or your wife while she was out for her morning walk. Maybe 200 years ago, but not today in the lower 48- to populated.
TheScott2121 10 months ago
@Riverweasel09 LMFAO!! Just as much right!!!
Trashfished 6 months ago
shoot the black panther when it gets close ;)
889winstein 1 year ago
mountain lions are not black..... look it up
ProfessorTapOut 1 year ago
Yeah, you can see by its shape and the way it moves that its a black panther. Not a black dog or black house cat--they wouldn't stalk a buck.
SilverSoul1496 1 year ago
@SilverSoul1496 while i agree it definitely is not a house cat, i would like to say that my five pound kitten stalks the deer around my house.
shawnas2012 1 year ago
yea i woulda made that cat take a nice dirt nap
wpl3773 1 year ago
I saw on in dumfries, scotland
ObsessedWithSerpents 1 year ago
i dont know what they are but i saw one setting up outside while i was n my grandparents house in mullens west virginia looking out the window and my grand-maw and my mom saw it too and im telling you the think was huge and it was sitting down i got a pretty good look at it to considering i was only about 20 ft away, thank gosh i was n a house....lol
warriorblood44 1 year ago
why is this video not more famous? so many people claim that there are no panthers in Alabama.
MizellsMonsters 1 year ago
Back in Nov, of 05', i saw one in MS, but it was blue like a pitbull color, with detail muscle structure block feet, have anyone ever seen a silver like blue panther?
miSSiSSiPPi46 1 year ago
I also found where 1 melanistic Bobcat was trapped in the North East while Florida has examined over 10 melanistic Bobcats. There appears to be more mealism the farther south with the Bobcat. Just remember that Mealanism is very very rare in Bobcats and Mountain Lions but more prevalent in Jaguars and Leapords...I didn't actually believe it existed until I started to do research on legitimate scientific papers.
cchanderson 1 year ago
Actually I finally found documentation of a black mountain lion that was trapped and killed in Colorado...and then thoroughly researched
BARNES, C. 1960. The cougar or mountain lion.
The Ralton Co., Salt Lake City.
There has also been a swarm of sightings in California with a outdoor writer "wildlife expert" observing at close range (30 yards in daylight) and documenting it with other witnesses. He said it was definitely a melanistic mountain lion.
So they do exist...but very rare...
cchanderson 1 year ago
its probaly just a black mt. lion!! if it is a cat at all!! it couldve been a black dog!! its not a big deal to see black cats round here!!
shawnerTboner 1 year ago
@shawnerTboner A mountain lion is a panther. Therefore a black mountain lion is a black panther. We don't call them mountain lions because we don't live in the mountains! And if you thought that was a dog, get some glasses.
TheOutlawWeasel 1 year ago
@TheOutlawWeasel theres no such thing as a black mountain lion. unless you have proof, there is no suuch thing. all mountain lions are a light orange color. there are none tht are black.
YoMathidge09 1 year ago
@YoMathidge09 My response was actually to "its probaly just a black mt. lion!!" and that mountain lions are panthers. I can't say if the large black cats in Alabama (which do exist) are 'Puma concolor' or not.
TheOutlawWeasel 1 year ago
@TheOutlawWeasel
we have them in north west texas also. i have seen them on 3 accounts.
caseyclem69 1 year ago
@TheOutlawWeasel What? A mountain lion is only CALLED Panther, but it isn't. A panther is a cat, that belongs to the Panthera subspecies. And only four cats belong to them: Leopard (panthera pardus), Jaguar (panthera onca), Tiger (panthera tigris) and lion (panthera leo). Cougar (puma concolor) is a own subspecie and is only in the US, sometimes called panther, nowhere else. And this name is totaly wrong, it's a lack of knowledge. Also there are NO melanism (black) forms of cougars prooven.
VpR81 1 year ago
omg we are all gonna die cats will take over tthe world
g35crazy 1 year ago
what a waste of time...
aisteryou 2 years ago
Totally believe this. Saw a big cat/ panther like this one at 1 a.m coming up the hill into Pine Hill one night on my way home from Marion. Say what you want but those suckers are real. Heard of them my whole life
Ohha8 2 years ago 9
I am originally from Selma and i saw one of these off of Summerfield road leaving Selma and was told by someone else a week later that they saw one 2 miles away from there without me saying i had seen one. They are definitely there it's THICK woods in all directions
trell23Mobile 1 year ago
@Ohha8 i seen big foot last week at a 7/11
khammz3 9 months ago
@Ohha8 yep. my thing is walking to stand and one of those being in front of me..
jumpthenoob 3 months ago
I seen the monsterquest episode about these cats and couldn't believe they are not suppose to be real. I've grew up all my life hearing stories and even heard them, like one comment says they sound like a woman screaming. I live in upstate SC and my family has a home video of one of these panthers on our back porch and u can also hear the cry. Panthers in the U.S are for real.
MxGreen767 2 years ago
@MxGreen767 IF your family truly has a home video of a black panther on a backporch, it would be amazing to see it posted ot you tube. You alone can possibly settle the debate of "do they exist here" YOu may even get paid for the footage. IT seems every person who has video, has shaky poor quality video. If you post your video you will be a hero.
leopold82 1 year ago
they not just in the lower u.s. there on there way up cuz ive went around my town in virgina its close to west VA and ive had 73 people tell me they see a big black cat !?
SpotCamo 2 years ago
hi im from the uk and theres always been rumours about these big cats in the rural area i live in. i know people who have seen them and i believe they do exist. the only issue i have with most of these videos is that the majority of the time its just a black domestic cat or a large dog... but this video pretty much proves it! i know its in the US, but we have plenty of deer, rabbits and pheasants that big cats could live on easily! great vid cheers
gunandterrier 2 years ago
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Im planning going to Alabama for a holiday, do any of you yank hick bastards know the best place i can take my sister for a romantic southern meal of grilled squirrel? im going to ask her to marry me in Alabama because it's illegal for some reason in Scotland.
mmorrison69 2 years ago
saw one around Purvis, Mississippi along the interstate. heard of them all my life. I've even heard them in the woods something you can't forget, sounds like a woman screaming. and yet everyone claims they don't exist. Also my aunt seen a big cat on her deer stand just wasn't black, and too big to be a bobcat plus the tail was wrong. She didn't shoot it cause it had a baby with it.
MSCowgal 2 years ago
ive seen 1 in nj near glassboro no 1 believes me
extreeeeeemist 2 years ago
your lieing:)
MidnighTx10 2 years ago
Someone in 1981 told me that they saw 2 black panthers in Clarke county ALA. I was skeptical until veiwing this vid. KYLETANGO
gir501 2 years ago
shoot the damn thing
codygrant94tracker 2 years ago
I believe what we have in our locale and what we are seeing in this video is a melanistic (black) puma concolor (mountain lion). I HOPE that's the case any way, because Jaguars are much larger and much more fierce! Science puts the Jaguar on par with the other GREAT cats like the lion and tiger. Either way, both of these cats are mostly nocturnal. How easy is it to see a coal black cat in the dark? It's really not difficult to see how they remain so elusive.
equine75 2 years ago
We have some of these in Illinois. My husband has seen one multiple times on our land. I've done alot of research on it and here are the facts. In America there are two large cats. Puma Concolor which is known as Mountain Lion, Cougar, Puma, Panther...etc. They are only know to be tawny...there has never been a VERIFIED black one. The second big cat documented in southwest America is the Jaguar (Panthera Onca). It can be spotted or solid black.
equine75 2 years ago
man down her n bama we got dem thangs i dun senn um at my pas howse down ner off counti roed 1o
RADIO88FLYER 2 years ago
There are no panthers in the U.S. There may be a genetic mutation where a puma has a black coat, but that would be it. And this video is of a domestic black cat... Also, a lot of people who left a comment on this video have horrible grammar, and they're the ones saying "stories" about panthers in the U.S. Coincidence?
tommytooclean 2 years ago
(Yawning...) please go look up the definitions for the words you're arguing about. Mountain Lion, Cougar, Puma, Panther, Catamount are ALL accepted by zoology pertaining to the same cat in America- Puma Concolor. It's really just a regional difference. You say tomato I say tomawto...It's all good.
equine75 2 years ago
Actually, you are wrong. A panther does not pertain to that list; a panther is on par with a leopard, only its black. The Jaguar is not in southwest America, it is in South and Central America, and you're right, it can be black or covered with rosettes. But it is not in the U.S.
tommytooclean 2 years ago
I don't want to argue...go look it up. The info is readily accessible to anyone from any search engine. Jaguars are verified in Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. And you're HALF right on the statement about panthers and leopards. In OTHER countries they interchange those two names but in America...panther is used for Puma concolor. Like I said, just check your facts, it's all there.
equine75 2 years ago
I'm sorry, buddy, but you're wrong. Jaguars are not in Arizona, New Mexico, Texas or in any other part of the U.S. And I was partly wrong with panther, the word is now generic for leopard, jaguar, lion or tiger, no other cat. You tell me to look it up, but really you should. Thinking that there are wild jaguars in the U.S. is laughable.
tommytooclean 2 years ago
I tried to post links but youtube won't let me. Just go to Google and type in "Jaguars confirmed in United States".
I just got TONS of credible results with that seach query. The fourth one down for me was from Arizona Game and Fish Dept.
They were here, then weren't seen for awhile and are now making a come back.
equine75 2 years ago
Wow, I guess I could be wrong... But seriously do not want to admit it! I've been fond of big cats since I was in kindergarden, I don't know how I missed such a discovery, I'll blame it on alcohol. I will continue to do some more research, but for stating your statement was laughable, I apologize.
tommytooclean 2 years ago
It's Ok :o)
I'm used to those statements. My family has been seeing cougars for the last 100 years in Illinois- east of the Mississippi, where they are not supposed to be habitating. DNR in Illinois is only now admitting that they're here...someday they'll realize we where right about the black ones too!
equine75 2 years ago
we have 3 cougars in my county ive almost kidded one befor.
codygrant94tracker 2 years ago
That's interesting because we have seen tracks as far north as Morton Grove. The DNR always clams up. For the most part, they have been coming back for the past 20 years, and with no major interactions with humans. As long as everyone learns how to coexist, there should be no worries.
Lot of Deer in Illinois. They, like wolves and Bears, are very important in keeping herds healthy, and disease low.
Love having them, but I always hike armed. Two legged nuts are more dangerous than four!
LOL
packmentality 2 years ago
@tommytooclean my bad, ignore my earlier statement.
hulkmeister23 2 years ago
@tommytooclean dude, equine75 is right, camera traps placed along the Mexican border to catch illegal immigrants back in 07 captured on several occasions jaguars crossing into Arizona. Currently, scientists are still studying them.
hulkmeister23 2 years ago
@tommy: Sorry sir, it's you who are incorrect. Jaguars are native to the Southwest US. The main breeding population is in Mexico, but yeah, they can be found up around Tucson as well as other places. It bodes well for the species, though I would like to see more intensive efforts to get back to a Late Pleistocene ecology.
magick205 2 years ago
Well, they're not really native... Some have ventured up towards the U.S., but they really haven't even been officially recogonized as a consistent home for the cats. North Americas only big cat is still officially the puma, but I have also read that there is evidence of them in the U.S., but have a very minute population. But wouldn't your desire to see more intensive efforts to get back to a Late Pleistoce ecology be contradictory to what it is?
tommytooclean 2 years ago
@tommy: Not espcially. Large felid predators couldv'e been found throughout the continental US prior to the Younger-Dyras and the Pleistocene Megafaunal extinction. Introduction of such large carnivores would be problematic from a human standpoint, smaller ones like the cheetah would easier.
magick205 2 years ago
I never mentioned anything about promoting large mammals in an area where they once were, I said it would be contradictory because a human attempt at such a cause is from what the term's oppositte definition is. But a leopard would be a better fit in North America than a cheetah.
tommytooclean 2 years ago
@tommy: I feel otherwise. A cheetha would be a better fit as they are less agressive toward humans and have a specific species that they would be preying on, the Pronghorn. Ever wonder why they're so damn fast? The American cheetah,
magick205 2 years ago
But leopards are very shy towards humans, themselves... I would say a leopard would be better because they're more of a survivor, and their diets consist of everything, opportunistic hunters, they are, says Joda.
tommytooclean 2 years ago
I meant, Yoda...
tommytooclean 2 years ago
@tommy: Ah, what you meant, I knew, young Jedi. LOL. It's possible that these are escapees from private owners who don't want to fess up. Or it could be a melanistic strain of the cougar (not Demi Moore-type). The best way to tell outsidfe of a live capture, is get a hair sample with roots and test the DNA. In any event I'd stil like to see that rewiliding our land needs. It's been almost 13 thousand years since we had the biota the continent needs.
magick205 2 years ago
Do you think we have the biota for new animals now?
tommytooclean 2 years ago
@tommytooclean I think if we start slow with the base of the food chain it'll be a good start. Reintroduce some herbivores that have been missing: wild horses, camels, musk oxen, and others. There's a lot of data on the plans for this. It's an interesting read. The biggest stumbling block is between human and carnivores(and elephants).
magick205 2 years ago
Just throw them in our national parks or something? Where's the ideal place?
tommytooclean 2 years ago
@tommytooclean: For the herbivores, the national parks is probably an excellent place to start. Small to medium predators I'd want introduce into a game park, like in Texas first and see what their response is and the public response. I'm certain if we could ever reintroduce large predators safely in to the American wilds. It's hard enough with some bear populations.
magick205 2 years ago
Hmmm, small to medium predators? Like the Caracal? Or the Ocelot? Little cats like that? Or some Australian Dingo? Such an intense study would be awesome to participate in.
tommytooclean 2 years ago
@tommy: I'm thinking along the lines of dholes and cheetas for the predators and bactrian camels, tapiers and llamas for our missing herbivores. BTW, Happy Holidays.
magick205 2 years ago
Yes, I hope your holidays went very well, too. I don't wanna look them up, so I'll ask you, what are dholes?
tommytooclean 2 years ago
@tommytooclean: Dholes are wild dogs that are now restricted to a few populations in Asia. They used to be native here. We had quite the variety of canids here once. Only the with the exception of C. lupus only smaller ones remain. Reintroduction of other carinvores might balance their number and reduce some of the coyote attacks we see.
magick205 2 years ago
my firend eddie hes in 7th grade im in 8th he siad he saw one in the woods when he was reding quads he went in the woods at a park he saw it like idk like 4 times bigger than a regular cat or something an it was balck had a long tail and was hanging out near a rock pile also i think this might be true cause in up state new york people sometimes complain about them someone answer give me an idea if this is possible or if theres another alternative
mike12703 2 years ago
i wuld shoot da shit outta that thing
warren010h 2 years ago
You just got a great video of a melenisic mountain lion. I think... The body is too narrow and thin to be a Jaguar. Remember there is no such thing as a "panther" They are just "black" (melenisic) varying species of wild cat (like the opposite of albino). You know people in the Midwest have seen these for years..kind of weird. Must be a small population of mountain lions on the mississipi basin that has strong melenisic traits that have never been expirated. Its the only logical answer.
cchanderson 2 years ago
PANTHER ARE IN SC I SAW THEM .
sawdoff1100 2 years ago
"Panther are in SC I saw them"
Ok what is a panther...I just explained it to you what part of my statement didn't you understand?
There is no cat species named "panther".
The word "panther" means a black phase of several different species.
So what species did you see?
Florida "panthers" are brown (tawny colored) mountain lions just like they have out west except they are a few pounds lighter.
cchanderson 2 years ago
Go to any zoology site and look up the definition of panther. It is one of many commonly accepted terms for the mountain lion, cougar, puma, catamount... Science has never had a documented case of a melanistic cougar and will argue their existence. What you want to call America's second largest cat depends upon what region you're from primarily. They're ALL correct and acceptable.
equine75 2 years ago
Correct....however most Americans think "Florida Panthers" are black when in fact they are just another mountain lion same color same everything. The term "panther" is mostly associated with the color "black". That's just how it is.
cchanderson 2 years ago
Nice Vid dude and that lil girl is a hel of a hunter... good buck plus a big black panther on footage...cant get any better than that, my uncle seen one in south texas down in webb county, the cat was 40yrds from him he said it was bout 7ft long and 3.5ft shoulder to ground..he didnt shoot it cuz of his nervousness....
Laredo9562 2 years ago
fake
WolfishNuckajuh 2 years ago
It was just an ordinary black domestic cat.
19630541 2 years ago
dude, if i were you, i wouldve called animal control on that panther. it couldve attacked and somebody couldve died. black panthers aren't native to alabama.
catsrulee 2 years ago
there here in SC and you can get in big trouble for messaging with them
sawdoff1100 2 years ago
i would have shot it.
diedreich 2 years ago
why?? freak
dafcymru1 2 years ago
@dafcymru1 Because if you had a actual corpse of the animal you could study it and prove its existance. And if you prove its exrstince you could help the species by making it protected or maybe putting some in captivity so you can further study them...but thanks for the condecending comment....FREAK
diedreich 2 years ago
sorry wel i thought you would have shot it just for the sake of it, like most people, sorry my bad
dafcymru1 2 years ago
my freinds brother saw a large, adult black cat close enough he could see the spot patterns you see in black leapoards and jaguars....it was not a baby cougar.....the assumption that every one here is see cougars in the shade and thinking they are black is annoying....
missylk30 2 years ago 2
The little girl at the beginning of this always makes me smile, "There's the cat...AGAIN!" What a sweetie.
thegirl44 2 years ago
last summer i saw one on my friends property in texas, We where messing around sticks rocks and a lot of duck tape when we saw it drinking from a creek.
TheRealThankedbox 2 years ago
black panther isnt really a correct term becaus the word panther actually means big black cat
scufflemadcampbell 2 years ago
Well thats what it is!
moleman1961 2 years ago
The word Panther, or Pantera from it's Asian origin means, "the large yellow ones," cam, and is used to identify cats that roar.
thegirl44 2 years ago
did you know there are them in scotland
xxl30001king 2 years ago
cool :D
LtlFckUp 2 years ago
Yea boy i seen one this past hunting season. In Abbeville, SC. he was about 50 yards away by the time i got the scope on him he was long gone.If i ever see that sucker again he goin on my wall.
avidhunter94 2 years ago
There are way to many people here in southeast Alabama who have heard or seen cougars and have seen black ones......cougars have been present here more than 8 years though, because both of my parents talked about hearing them scream as kids in the 40s and 50s......i am asleep when the resident cat here screams in thr creek bottom behind my house (freaks out the neightbors)but I swear I'm gonna set out some kinda recording device to hear it
missylk30 2 years ago
Yes, missy, juvenile cougars and cubs do appear black sometimes when they still have thier baby markings, but in reality they are covered with dark brown markings set very close together. Cougars do not carry the melanistic variant gene to turn them all black.
thegirl44 2 years ago
I live in southern Alabama too and when me and my friend ride our go carts we used to always hear noises like a woman screaming...then we started thing about a panther but we seriously think ones in our woods...
cheerleader0snappy 2 years ago
I saw a big black cat, not the same build as a mountain lion, or "cougar" this one was LONG, LOW to the ground, and B I G. it also had two babies with it.. The tail appeared to be longer than the cat... but it wasnt the "light variation" making it appear black.. it was 20 feet from my vehicle.. middle of a sunny day, in a field. This was in Arkansas, where we don't have "black cats"
perkinsfan 3 years ago
well that buck definitely sees it
tubeparker23 3 years ago
what a thrilling moment
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maybee there are jaguars in mexico (i know belize), maybee some have crossed the border..
goldenbrenner 3 years ago
Discovery channel had a show, "Monster Quest", that tried to prove the existence of black panthers in the U.S. A lot of scientists were saying they didn't exist in the US, that it's the lighting making them look black. And, that panthers are only in florida and out west now. I don't know. If you spend enough time in the woods you hear stories or have your own stories to tell. My brother swears he saw one in the backwaters of the Chattahoochee between Alabama and Ga.
PhivTooSix 3 years ago
There are cougar sightings in NE Wisconsin every so often. People have seen tracks and the animals for years now.
plottluvr07 2 years ago
I saw that as well. My cousins swear they seen them what say you
zava34 2 years ago
i saw that episode! but its actually on the history channel, not discovery.
catsrulee 2 years ago
We live in Southern Alabama, and we have several Black Panthers out here. When they "growl", it sounds like a woman screaming bloody murder! You'll never forget the sound....
towman2277 3 years ago 4
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BogdanCatalinAlex 3 years ago
no such thing as black panthers, but jagaurs did inhabbit lower north america and was exterminated by man in the early 1800's.. could they still be with us... could they be inbred puma's? who knows... i find this video factual
dwaynomac24 3 years ago
Are you a retard or something. Black Panthers are Melanistic Jaguars or Leopards!
fzjanjua 3 years ago
are you? can you read? i was stating that never once has there been a black mountain lion , puma , or panther ever to be found or in captivity... jaguars and leopards YES.. if thats a large cat in the video its not a mountain lion!!! your not talling me anything that i dont already know.. in america we use pather as another word for cougar.. just like latin america uses it to mean jaguar... sorry to confuse the confused
dwaynomac24 3 years ago
I'm not confused but I am sorry. Yes in north america the Panther is a name used for the Cougar. The rest of the world use it for the black Jaguars and Leopards.
fzjanjua 3 years ago
thats cool... but can i ask you what you think it is? i live in kentucky and there has been several sitings of a black cat, and i have had two siting in a period of 8 or so years of a huge black cat... and another of a regular cougar that wasnt that large but still 3-4 times bigger than a house cat.. its crazy that nobody has killed or trapped one of these bastards if what i seen was real.
dwaynomac24 3 years ago
The regular Cougar you saw may of been a young Cougar. A black Panther may also be a black Cougar but none have been spotted or found in the wild or in captivity, so Panthers are not really regarded as black Cougars. I'm not sure what cat you saw. It can't be a Leopard so I would put my money on it being a Jaguar. I live in England & we do not have a single big cat here but a large black cat has been spotted in my area a few times. People think it is a Leopard but I'm not to sure.
fzjanjua 3 years ago
"no such thing as black panthers"
That is a very uneducated comment. A black panther is just a color variant of a large cat.
A black jaguar and a black leopard would both be called a black panther
lleetllama 3 years ago
no shit! i was just stating above if you even read that far was that, there hasnt been any record of a black mountian lion to exist, not a jaguar or a leopard which are well documented to be black... i live in america but when the word pather is exercised we tend to relate it to mountain lions or puma's. its a regional term...
dwaynomac24 3 years ago
actually... you made the statement "no such thing as black panthers" you didn't say black mountain lions..
On a side note, if you look at the range of the large cats of the americas, it would most likely be a mountain lion..
Even though there is no scientific evidence of one "nothing is real unless an educated person finds it, or sees it for himself" there should be no reason genetically that a "melanistic" mountain lion should be ruled out.
lleetllama 3 years ago
Actually llama, google a picture of a mountain lion cub, many of them are quite dark, although this appearence is caused by brown markings set closer together on some cubs than others.
Many "Black Panther" reports that we receive are these juveniles who haven't lost their baby markings yet.
thegirl44 2 years ago
For the record, that's a regular old house cat in this video. The buck itself isn't that big, first or second year rack on it, tops. The close downward camera angle gives the impression that it's bigger than it is but you see in the third shot, in contrast to the broomscrub alongside the clearing, it isn't that big, nor is the cat by that comparison. Yes the tail is long and has an abnormality to it, but how do you know that a house cat will be a good mouser? Long ears and a long tail.
thegirl44 3 years ago
Stop being a know-it-all.
koltonkj26 3 years ago
God, I hate ignorant little kids, kolton
thegirl44 2 years ago
Check out the dept. of conservation website. It is illegal to kill black bears or panthers in alabama. They are protected species.
johncassie 3 years ago
Yes John, panthers, not black panthers. They are talking about Florida panthers, a protected species of yellow cat, it's the bears that are black.
thegirl44 3 years ago
no it is iilegal to kill black panthers aswell...in ALL u.s. states. isnt that funny considering they supposedly dont exist?
candiboot 3 years ago
Not unless you're talking about African American political activists. There are many laws on the books about Florida panthers, yellow or tawny coloured cats, because they are on the endangered list, but nowhere is there a law that uses the specific wording of "black panther."
thegirl44 3 years ago
This rumour has existed for as long as I've held my wildlife biologist degree, and longer, and was probably created by people claiming to have seen said cats.
Newspaper reporter: Why didn't you shoot it, you had a gun?
Hoaxer: Well, they're protected animals, there's laws against shooting them.
There isn't, in fact there is a caveat to every law about shooting predatory endangered species, if they pose a threat you CAN shoot them. I call it the "They was comin' right for us," law.
thegirl44 3 years ago
they dont exist but, jagaurs did inhabit lower north america untill they was exterminated by famers and hunters in the mid 1800's
dwaynomac24 3 years ago
But the Jaguar appears to be making it's way back, dwayne. A friend of mine sent me footage from Arizona of two young males and a picture of another young cat that didn't reveal sex.
Don't believe the official reports about there being no cougars in the interior either, they're there, just not in big enough numbers to make a signficant impact
thegirl44 2 years ago 2
how the hell did u get this video? i filmed this in 1993
fatmonkey270 3 years ago