Greasel-Vegetable Oil For Diesel Truck

[TheTraktorman]

Now when you pump it into your truck do have to add anything to the oil or do you just filter it?

[CAJFB]

THis is awesome!!!!!!!Why dont more people know about this

[gwk4657]

Good job on your video I liked it very much!

[TheWholefoodfarmacy]

Good job on your video I liked it very much!

[GeorgeyNico]

Nice work, why do you heat the oil by the heat from the radiator and not by other means and what do you do on the cold mornings. Inspiring, thanks mate.

[mrmeanr]

Im considering buying a diesel car now just because I run a restaurant with a fryer... it would be nice to never really have to buy fuel again lol

[nerdlinger2]

does this mean you dont need a centrifuge? im new to veggie but want to get a set up going as im looking to buy diesel truck right now

[karmannghiagirl69]

My husband is real curious as to how exactly ur set up is. if u could please email me back at shortandsassy2007@yahoo.com

[DJzSith]

Fueling up the pump is much more "glamorous". I really wanted to do this to my truck, but the idea of obtaining used oil is to much for me. Why does nobody sell it?

[Joewalshe38]

One of the better WVO filtering videos around.

I'm setting up a WVO fuel system in Ireland and researching best system.

Hope you will be uploading more videos.

[mikekarkula]

this is actually theft!!! after the restaurants dump thier oil it belongs to the wvo company... you can go to jail for this!!!

[Christopherabrown]

@mikekarkula Permission was asked and granted. Perhaps you didn't notice the restaurant operator bringing more oil. The reservoir was almost full. The wvo companys have a clause that costs them alot if the restauranter has to pay for alternative disposal. In that case the wvo company approves of removal.

[RefurbishedBacon]

This is pretty cool. I think if i did this, i would definitely invest in a trailer and a bunch of barrels, then make a whole pumping set up right on the trailer and make the rounds to restaurants collecting oil. Then unload the barrels at home in a shed and run it all through a finer filtration system, then into more barrels with a gas nozzle so i just have to wheel one out to my driveway to gas up my truck.

[circusboy90210]

what is that thing @ the end of your probe?? how do I make or get one of those?

[Christopherabrown]

@circusboy90210

It is just a screen at the pickup to stop larger debris.

[circusboy90210]

@Christopherabrown I knoticed that much but how is it mounted etc>>>???

[Christopherabrown]

@circusboy90210

I think Greg just taped that one on.

[circusboy90210]

@Christopherabrown taped it onto the end of the pipe?? it's not welded or screwed onto the end of the suction tube??

[slavicchristian]

Where can I get a conversion like this? How much does it cost? Can I do the conversion myself? Does this increase, decrease or keeps the life of the motor the same length?

Nice video!

[LionHeart0808]

So what exactly did you use the duck tape for at the beginning? Also can you make a list of all the material you need and where to find them to run a system like this. Thanks

[chris000089]

what kind of truck?

[Christopherabrown]

It is a dodge

[dkenny]

if you ever smell a grease trap..you'll know there are not the same as the bin you collected grease from.

either way..using homegrown fuel is better than from foreign sources..I convert mine into biodiesel..its cheaper than converting 4 to run on grease..yes 4..put anotherway..all except for the the motorcycle..a bus, a truck( like yours), a jeep and sailboat.

[dkenny]

if my other post comes thru...

I'm not against SVO!!! nto at all. I'm pro biodiesel.. no truck conversion.

I was just clarifing terms..grease trap vs oil dumspter!! big difference..find a real grease trap..you'll know the difference.

-dkenny

[Christopherabrown]

Yo Kenny,

Yes, I noticed Greg used the term universally where a "grease trap", which separates water from grease in a disposal liine is very different from storage.

I call 'em "grease sumps". But he's a surfer and I'm a gear head.

[fordboy111591]

hey how much does this kit cost my dad has a 99 powerstroke tubro 7.3 and i want to get him a conversion kit or somethin for his birth day where can i get the kit to do it

[DrBleck35]

Dude. Since this idea caught on, I can't find grease anywhere. If you want to go green and save him some money buy him some white roof paint.

[fordboy111591]

wat does roofin paint have to do with convertin our diesel to bio diesel ?? lol

[Delticola]

To find grease use your imagination: Cafeterias for schools, universities, bowling alleys, country club golf coarses that have big resturants, small mom and pop chinese places...........it helps to be a customer a few times before you ask. I have access to more oil then I can burn but it took me a long time. Also offer to buy it, you can buy used oil from someone at a better rate then they get paid for it........and you can buy it for 10% the cost of diesel fule or LESS.

[flintrox]

Good observation, I havent had to pay for it yet. 32,000 miles and I cant tell any difference in performance. I feel sorry for folks who cant find enough used cooking oil. Fat burns good too!!!

[flintrox]

@Drbleck35 Try your mom and pop restraunts. I found out Barbeque restraunts have some to spare. The boston butt grease they dump in with it burns also. Try turkey fry places. Try your food catering services. Try your service stations that have burger and fries. Good luck. I was just trying to help. BARBEQUE places are your best bet

[tpump]

you guys wouldn't happen to know where i could get my 7.3L tubro f250 converted in Colorado?

[Delticola]

Do it yourself. Check out what I did with my older 7.3. No real reason it wont work on a powerstroke, but consult a powerstroke expert. Type in 7.3 Diesel Vegetable oil and you'll see my video.

[Delticola]

From Atlanta GA, I've driven to Florida 3 times, Texas one, and Canada once. Burned about 1100 gallons of oil so far. Just love it, it's really fun.

[oskarkarrera]

the guy seems really nice man

[Delticola]

I don't get black smoke from my exhaust. I get blue smoke with with Diesel....old engine, 1991 7.3 Ford. When I heat my oil under a fire in a 55 gallon drum I get the water out at the same time. Yesterday I installed my coolie cup contraption for my inline oil filter got some engine coolent in my mouth, tasted terrible.

[stealthsniper96]

hey i'm thinking about doing a wvo conversion. Is that all you do to filter it? I know some people have like de watering and all kinda stuff like that. and just out of curiosity do you still get the black smoke from the exhaust?

[Christopherabrown]

Your prep depends on your oil source.

If you red the other comments and my replies, most of your Q's will be answered.

[Delticola]

The filter bags I'm talking about can be ordered from McMaster Carr, good for 200 degrees to 300 degrees your choice. Much better then centrifuge. I still cannot believe anyone centrifuges oil or I just cannot figure it out....you tell me. I contaminate my tank when I rely only on centrifuge.

[Christopherabrown]

Good ideas. Controlling the heat on a mass of 300 degree scavenged cooking oil is an important thing. If it starts gassing, an explosion is possible. I believe the oil itself can be best used as a heat source which will can be automatically regulated. The gravity filtering is nice an simple but you have to hold the heat and wait, so pumping and filtering might reduce energy "in" for a given energy "out".

[Delticola]

Oh, heat the top drum with a fire. Buy a 300 degree thermometer. One warning, using veg oil in a diesel engine you need to change your engine oil more frequently. Probably about every 2000 miles, contamination of the engine oil with veg oil is a bad bad thing, it happens to all engines.

[Delticola]

Yeeha, liquid Gold: Picture this, 2 55 gallon drums, metal. Painted with some Por15 on the inside walls, hi-temp paint on the bottom. Build an iron stand to heat 1 drum, braze a pipe with a brass valve. Heat to 140-180 and drain into filter bags, 50 micron, 25 micro, 1 micron. All 3 bags in one, like one socking over the other. Hang the bags on the end of your pipe, 90 elbow. Paint the drums inside or the rust will make your oil ugly.

[Delticola]

Christopherabrown and Greg: Thanks for posting such a great video, it gave me what I needed to get my system designed and built. Particularly how you rigged up the Pollak hoses. I outsmarted some really experienced mechanics with the idea of re-looping the return of the vegatable oil, learned from you guys. Thanks.

[Delticola]

I do not recommend Golden Rod Filters unless the pump pressure is slight enough to handle the pressure. My golden rod filters got ripped up fast. Probably better for filtering Bio-Diesel rather then vegetable oil.

[Delticola]

There is a guy, Redline Custom Equipment out of South Dakota, guy makes a real nice pump for collecting oil from the recycle bin. Don't steel oil, ask for it or offer to pay for it if the resturant gets paid by the recycler like most do now.

[Delticola]

Success, drove about 2000 miles last week! Had problems with my 30 micron oil filter clogging from 50-60 tempatures, not from crud, from the cold. Need to heat my oil filter in addition to my inline heat system. No need to heat the tank if you have proper drainage in cold weather!

[Christopherabrown]

Delticola, thanks for the info. That could have a significant impact for some people in cooler climes. I think theres a 12v heating pad you can wrap that filter in.

[grock180]

how much does all that equipment cost?

very cool

[Christopherabrown]

The mod to the diesel is about $1500 and the pump is about $200

[monsterman27]

im very interseted in doing this to a vehicle in future

[Delticola]

Well, after having a little fil-rite pump and it would not work for me, it ran but it would not pump or prime. I just dropped a bundle of money on a pretty serious pump and some DC to AC current conversion electronics. I'll write more if it all works nice. Meanwhile, this marvelous Greg, let's ask this mysterious man to look at the information on that pump, the writing that you cannot read on the film. Let's get the info so we can all say "Yeeha, liquid Gold"

[Delticola]

The 1 inch braided hose can be ordered from Hosexpress on line, call them for a small order. Or some specialty (non-chain, large hardware store) may have the hose. I suggest 12-15 foot hose on each end or more if the pump can handle it horizontal should be no problem. But what kind of pump is that and where can it be found?

[Delticola]

The selector switch is (looks like) a Pollak brand, best price is JC Whitney for about $84.00. It used to be $54.00 about a year or two ago but it's gone up. But who makes that 12 volt pump?  Where can it be purchased?

[Christopherabrown]

As far as I know it is a standard diesel transfer pump. Greg would rather have a homemade that uses a high volume engine oil pump, gear drive, driven with a small starter moter. Three times the delivery.

[g4sy]

def. build your own. A gear pump (modify an old oil pump or a power steering pump) and hook it up to a gas engine or a 12v electric motor or something with a reduction pulley. I can pull about 150 gallons in 10 minutes.

[Delticola]

Hey Christopherabrown: What kind of 12 volt pump is that? I just got a fil-rite, new, something's wrong it won't suck out a grease trap with clean oil. In 1 inch clear hose it pumped 1 foot up the hose and no more. In the 3/4 black hose it came with after 5 min it would never prime or pump. What kind of pump is that and who might supply it?

[dieseldawg2]

The oil looks milky on video when you were pumping into the truck. Were those just bubbles? Is that an F-350 or a Dodge? It kind of looks like one of those rare Powerstroke Excursions.

[Christopherabrown]

Yea, air bubbles, pump cavitation mixing it. Dodge truck.

[Job407a]

At about two minutes you point out your selctor switch. What kind is it and where did you get it? Thanks

[Christopherabrown]

GoldenFuelSystems as are the other conversion components

[Job407a]

Hey thanks, I have been burning used oil for five years, now I have to get serious and be able to use it year round.

[scottl976]

I run SVO in my 05 cummins. I start on diesel, but immediately switch over to oil, it works great. Left it on veggie once in 20 degree weather for about two hours and had to cycle the Pollak (Dodges have a neat fuel return) but it started after about two minutes and no CEL. Gotta love it. I use socks to filter at collection site. Paper element at home. 2 microns which is being excessive as engine filter is 10 microns.

[Christopherabrown]

Gotta love it,

Socks, ..... right on. How many GPM do you filter to 2 microns and what temp do you use?

[calebjladd]

what is the 40 micron filter you use

[Christopherabrown]

It is a simple stainless steel mesh

[jimdawg185]

where did you get that 12v pump. I hate mine, it goes way to slow.

do you have la ot of competition for oil, all the asian places have been taken, and I have noticed that all the mexican places have really solid grease...

[Christopherabrown]

I heard someone coupled an engine oil pump, gear pump to a starter motor and got like 20 GPM.

The thick grease is much harder to gather, filter and use.

[allenjanoch]

why do you have to start on diesel then the oil why not the oil frist

[Christopherabrown]

The veggie oil is too thick at ambient temperatures to pump easily. After you've run for awhile, the engine coolant thins the veggie oil in its tank via a heat exchanger then it will pump for the final filtering before the injection pump. That is when you switch.

[allenjanoch]

oh ok ty

[jackdw1234]

I plan to do this for an old land rover. Do you think it's possible to use some 12 volt heaters put in the tank to heat up the vege oil so it can start up on the stuff? Or have a smaller tank thats warmed by electricity and then the coolant can heat the main tank or something?

Cheers.

[Christopherabrown]

Heating the entire tank probably won't work because there is so much mass. You could make another tank that was Only one quart and get it heated/thinned enough to do what you want. It might take 5 minutes though.

[catobear1704]

Chris: I use to filter my oil--like you do--every time I would pick up oil from a grease trap, but now I wait to filter it at home. It makes things so much quicker when the pump does not have to push the oil through the filter. My first filtering process is taking a pair of jeans, hanging them up, cinching off the legs, and pouring the oil straight in 'em. It works like a charm. You can just fill the jeans up, and let the thing run out over night. Saves so much time.

[Christopherabrown]

That is A VERY good procedure and 1st filter technique.

Greg, who is in the video, is travelling from grease trap to grease trap with perhaps 600 miles in between, so that technique is not an option for him.

I like it tho and would proabably do the same thing myself.

I actually know others that have big plastic pans with holes punched in the bottom that they can lay filter material onto and clean easily. They do the overnight thing too.

[MaxWatt1]

This is one of my favourite veg oil videos on the net - thanks chris, you´re a star!

[ianmarkdizon]

it's a proof that geniuses doesnt have to look nerdy... he looks like a redhead or something yet his a genius!!! nice work christopher!!!

[MorePOwerplz]

How is it that you dont have to add methanol? Do you go through alot of fuel filters? This is neat stuff!

[Christopherabrown]

The vegetable oil is filtered when it is scavenged. First with a 40 micron stainless sceen, then with a 5 micron paper filter.

After it's heated its' filtered again in a sintered bronze filter located in a filter housing which is a part of the header pipe. That heat there further thins the fuel so finer filtering can take place and it gets to the proper viscosity for the injection pump.

[riegirrl]

Ah. Thanks. Its the GoldenFuelSystem One Shot Filtration method. Yeah, those filters are really good at taking out water.  The $10 filters are expensive but they get the job done.

[bearishy]

Very happy to see you guys leading to results. I believe that Chris has pointed you toward Brian. Well done. Much respect.

Peace

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[Velktron]

Very ghetto way to get free diesel fuel!

[bvcorvette21]

Holy Cow! I knew that a diesel truck could run on veggie oil, but I thought it really had to be changed up and made into a a bio-diesel. This is a cool video! Kinda a sucky job but hey, free gas or should I say veggie oil! haha!

[Christopherabrown]

It does have to be set up with a second fuel system. The green dodge in the video runs on diesel and veggie. It starts on diesel then switches to gresal.

Ya, greasy job, but an hour and a half gets 400 miles of fuel.

[edupassa]

i like what u guys are doing but isnt this too much work and money. i think hydrogen cas is the future

[Christopherabrown]

Greg crossed the US 5 times for about $15 dollars in filters each trip. It depends on how many miles you turn.

[OSPG]

good old duct tape.

[bully129]

restaraunts are gonna start selling the grease for this use.

[SakoTGrimes]

Nah, they get charged to take it away by tallow companies. This way the biodiesel burner and the resturant owner both win. I don't think they'd be stupid enough to charge for it.

[bully129]

lol dude I wrote that comment 3 months ago. I'd totally forgotten I'd commented on this video, and even this video. but ok, thanks.

[CaptainBroha]

nice

[sullyman3]

to all you truker's who have to pass your emmision's test 5 gallon's cannola take her for a run and then do your test

[Jishory]

so you arent dewatering it?

[Christopherabrown]

The grease goes through a sintered bronze element that is located in the header pipe, tht dries it out.

[riegirrl]

i strongly believe in dewatering oil before the gas tank. can you tell us more about this element?

[Christopherabrown]

There is a sintered bronze filter in the header pipe that gets the veggie oil up to about 250 F that drives the water out before entering the fuel system.

[riegirrl]

i appreciate the reply but im not sure i know what you mean. do you have a link w the info?

[Christopherabrown]

Searched google for Racor 900FH3112 and you will find a site with numerous heated filteration systems.

[Khamarhi]

Every restaurant will become a refueling point on the map. Thinking about all the fast food restaurants, theres more ff restaurants than there are gas stations.

[cbmtrx]

Good stuff man. It's a business waiting for an entrepreneur.

[Christopherabrown]

Greg has a two tank system. He starts on diesel and when engine coolant has gotten hot enough to get the veggie oil tank hot enough to pump he starts pumping through a sintered bronze filte that is in the header pipe and very hot where the veggie oil is filtered a final time.  then the primary fule pump sucks the veggie into the secondary. Sorry I accidentally removed you message.

[Christopherabrown]

Because he gathers and filters his own grease he has to use a 2 tank system just to get the engine running and heat the veggie oil. I think the only folks that can use a single tank have to either thin the veggie oil with diesel or burn biodiesel.

[fpscallum]

chribrown u jus got ur self a subsriber u rock

[newton2013]

hemp industry became outlawed the same year vegfuel switched to crude... 1936-7. Do the math. Things are more scammy than you may have known.

[curry405]

Chris, that's a really great price on the filter you use. I'm looking, with no luck, for a filter in that price range. What is the brand of filter you use? Where can I buy some? You have the 7.3 power stroke, right? Have you had good luck with it? Thanks a bunch

[Christopherabrown]

The 5 micron? It's a water filter. Standard paper element. Sears has them.

Greg sold his truck and Mercedes for a good $, they both worked really well.

[Casper886]

if you use centrifuge you should get better result. Also couple with an HHO gererator. That's perfect.

[Christopherabrown]

Very good Casper. That reminds me of a friend that owns a tuna boat and he suggested that too.

What about temperature? Seems it would need to be hotter to work okay?

[Casper886]

Chris, you are right, it need milder temp for centrifige to work. In CA is OK most part of the year. HHO devices are also available on the market. When you use SVO, HHO helps to burn even cleaner. I strongly suggest you to looking that. You

[nemorilla]

nice vid. I make and run bio but looking to go grease.

[aidanco1976]

does it leave a bad residue on the sump eventuallty causing the engine to seize?

[250sxwheeliepop]

thats another way to do it. We filter it down to 1 micron and dump it in. I have dual tanks so i dont use any of these fancy setups

[Christopherabrown]

So you gather your oils, filter them to 1 micron then fill your dual tanks?

Any details on how you get heavier, dirty oils to filter to 1 micron with reasonable pressures. Do you heat it in your filtering process?

[YOGAMAGIC]

Hemp oil would smash the petro oil industry.

[Christopherabrown]

Between the oil and the ethanol production hemp could make a huge difference. Also I hear hemp seeds boiled like wheat berrys and flavored with a little butter and honey is very tasty.

[sullyman3]

haha and we could suck on the pipe before we left couln't resit that one but i agree

[gates7]

So is invading islamic countries, killing thier leaders and converting them to Christianity a viable option ?

[sktbrd13gy]

thats awesome my dad has about 9 restaurants and i just bought an 06 dodge. Ijust need to know how to rig up one of those bad boys.

[FlakeyWaffle]

Over here, people do that too, some of the restaurants seem to have caught on, and are charging people money to suck their grease cesspools. Greedy pigs

[Christopherabrown]

It is all about filtering. Think FILTERS. The garbage oils still burn, but it's nice to know tthat sources are charging for the cleanest oil in places now.

Filter up!

[wenloh]

cool man n d best ting iz...

itz **free**

[scudnoski]

Great video! Where did you get your pump and goldenrod filter? Also, how long have you been running SVO in your truck?

[Christopherabrown]

My partner just sold the Dodge truck and his Mercedes, both were on veggie oil for about 2 years. The golden rod filter is just assembled with the 40 micron filter to screen the inlet to the standard diesel transfer pump.

[bunginggg]

if your on a date and you run out of gas where do you fill up? you dirty greasy whacko

[Christopherabrown]

You have 110 gallons of greasal and 40 of diesel. If you get low you just go but diesel to finish the date.

[staphinfection]

Ok you jealous, gasoline dependant, close-minded ignoramous.

[sullyman3]

he's running rease you idiot go ahead fill your disel with gas and then we shall be rid of you blew up real GOOD

[joaorp]

the fuel of the future for diesel engines

[anon8840]

great job CB

~bp