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  • These are real men. We all owe them so much, I wish more people would have the respect that some of us do we owe them our lives. Live forever soldiers we will ALWAYS love you

  • I have seen the guy at 0:31 so many times on TV, etc. Does anyone know who he is or what happened to him?

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  • I have seen the guy at 0.31 so many times on TV, etc. Does anyone know who he is or what happened to him?

  • Its hard to imagine that the soldiers run up in the beach facing bullets!

  • Americans didn't even face a real war in ww2 they got a fight from whatever the Eastern front could spare the old the young the sick those to spare from German cities if Germany had better leadership (no Hitler) - formed a flexible front in France had better anti air defence then German armour would have trunched the allies and if they had not invaded Russia, Hitler would have been a German hero.

  • @zerker12568901 actually the germans lost the battle of britain regardless of the eastern front, and operation sea lion was always a pipe dream considering the kriegsmarine was trash compared to the british navy. also, even if hitler didn't declare war on russia, russia eventually would have entered the war.

  • @zerker12568901

    Such fantasy.

  • @zerker12568901 Germans who fought in Normandy said that it was some of the most intense combat many of them have ever faced, even the ones who fought in the east.

  • Lmao, nice loss of over 250.000 soldiers in disembark only.

  • My grandfather was their in Normandy. shot twice. The first was medical leave to England second

    sent home that was in Poland during winter. He never gave me the date and he passed on in 2001. He Said men would give in do to pressure and put themselves into fire and stand to get shot dead on. Something about whistling noise. was common when telling me these stories. He was in the Army infantry from Texas.

  • They were men, not us

  • i actually stood next to one of these airplane bombs in a museum in France. It was about 4 feet high and two feet wide. and they droped loads of hundreds of these things :|

  • My Grandpa knew 8 brothers who went to war, 7 of em died and when the last one came back to Canada he started drinking a lot trying to forget the horrible experiences he faced in France.

  • You lot get all emotianal about this but are weak to fight for England now ,leave it to us the EDL "

  • At 2:34, my Uncle was involved in those landings with the CF, dodged a lot of bullets and came home alive in one piece, but was a very different person, He drank lot and never wanted to talk about what He experienced there.

  • My german grandpa lost so many friends in Normandy.. =(

    R.I.P german soldiers

  • @ReDbEaN87 lol german?

  • With all of OUR Military power Hitler had to lose

  • Yesterday (just gone midnight so technically June 7th) was the first anniversary of D-Day without my dad who died October 2009. He was a veteran of both Dunkirk (1940) and D-Day (1944). These old clips always seem very real to me because he was there. To think I sometimes moan about a bad day a work and I'm a university lecturer. What he must have seen... He ended up in Berlin in 1945.

  • Im a 12 year old kid from filnland, but when i look at the video i can see so many brave soldiers, that i feel PROUD! W.W.2 Was something so important, to the whole modern world, that even many centuries after this, should remember and be proud as i am. my granmas father was at that war, because he lived in britain. I juts hope those annoying idiotic people goes somewhere else to continue theure fight, because W.W.2 had enough of that!

  • thanks grandpa

  • i feel nothing but pride when i see film like this my father was there and this is england at its best god bless our soldiers and the allies

  • @tomato6999 why do you say england?

    when more scottish was recruited in the british army during 1939 - 1945?

    if your going to be proud of anything be proud of britain

  • @tomato6999 God didn't like alot of soldiers huh? I don't think God stopped the axis powers so much as the allied powers.

  • to think one of those men is my grandad...he lost so many friends in normandy....R.I.P....soldiers !

  • @cliobelle SAME! my grandad was a lance corporal in the royal marines :)

  • cant imagine what they went through !...brave men ♥

  • mhmm got the up-most respect for those lads, following in his footsteps though :)

  • good on ya !...good luck with your career ♥

  • lance corporal? Jesus he sounds a bit too OLD to be lance-corporal LOLS

  • funny guy? he's dead now actually :)

  • haha your grandad, say hi grandad LOL

  • you are a meaningless spammer, and nothing more than a moronic retarded little boy. now run along and play with your crayons....

  • hahaha did I touch a nerve? You silly cunt.

    where was granny while grandad was being nasty to Germans? was she listeningt to her little wireless and eating porridge? LOL

  • poor baby...your parents must be so proud of you, i have way more of a life to even bother being disturbed by your idiotic comments, what is disurbing is how your fuckwit mum was allowed to marry her fuckwit brother and create you ?....inbreeding is just so wrong :(

  • Your soooo lucky I'm not in the same room as you or I would destroy your face. Your mother is a filthy fucking whore, and I do hope she gets violently raped.Your father is a cowardly piece of scum like yourself.

  • hahahahah !!!.....you made my day....like taking candy from a baby...yoink !!!....you mean nothing to me therefore neither do your words......i have nothing more to say......no wait....hahahahahahahahahaahha­ha LMFAO !

  • you poor little fool

  • oh stop it, you silly bore. Sit down, relax and have a pizza

  • you should calm down and take a look what these boys done for you and try to be thankfull you poor un educated bafoon

  • Actually, in 1940 - Nov. 1941 the British commonwealth forces took out ~225,000 Italians, ~180,000 Italian Colonial Troops & some Germans. Actually the number of Italians & Colonial Troops is higher. Stalin was Shitler's 'buddy' at this time.

  • this is incredible footage.

  • Ha-ha. I guess in 1939 and 1940 when the British Commonwealth was engaged in Africa etc., Stalin the Prick & the USSR had invaded Poland along with their buddy Shitler, & the 3 Baltic countries & Finland in the battle against the Axis. Ha-ha.

  • More ha-ha. Don't forget the 1940 campaign in North Africa & the campaign in Ethiopia & Somalia when ~150,000+ Italians were taken out by the Brits. Ethipia & Somalia provided important naval & air bases for ops in the Middle east, the Indian Ocean, the China -Burma-India Theaters etc.

    More Ha-ha: plus Ethiopia grows some excellent coffee. Ha- ha.

  • Ha ha ha! In 1941 to 1943 85-75% of Axis GROUND FORCES were on the East Front, you forget the U-Boat & surface naval campaigns in the Atlantic & also the Murmansk convoys, as well as the surrender of ~230,000+ Germans & Italians in May, 1943 in Tunis. You also completely miss the HUGE Pacific & China-Burma-India Theaters that required immense amounts of equipment, supplies, logisitcs, manpower, & thousands of warships & other ships. Anyone that believes WWII was fought only on 1 front is wrong.

  • In 1941 to mid 1943 75 - 85% of German GROUND FORCES were on the East Front, you miss the U-Boat campaign, the naval actions against the Murmansk convoys, and the German Luftwaffe's defense of Germany against the huge Allied startegic bombing offensive. By the end of the war ~60 of German ground forces were on the East Front. The majority of German/Axis losses were on the East Front but not 85% of . How easy it is to ignore the surrender of 230-250,000 German & Italians in Tunis in May, 1943.

  • WOW! This is so heavy wi the comments n all, i'll just watch the educating vid n move on.

  • b-50 boomers =)

  • hi id just like to say im so proud of my grandfather of the 500 or so guys from his platoon from CANADA (the first soliders to land )my grand father was the only one come home hafter saving the life of many men i dont like war but if evil is won by war then im proud of them all no matter what country whoo yah!!!!!

  • dude it took like day in a half to take back sicily its funny how u kids thinku kno everything

  • brave soldiers =')

  • wow the italians were so hard in ww2 not it was so easy to take back italy

  • they say the battle of Sicily was a mf

  • wow, that's so wrong and ignorant. Italy was a bitch! It was made considerably harder when the yanks disregarded the plan and fucked off to Rome instead of cutting off the retreating Nazis as planned after a breakthrough. That costs thousands of allies lives, but you know, the yanks wanted a heroes welcome in Rome so I guess that had to come first. Twats!

  • MajNorberg, No, Normandy was not over rated, and neither was the victory in Tunis in early 1943, "Tunisgrad", where ~130,000 Germans & 120,000 Italians wre captured. Yeah, I probably know more about the Eastern Front than you probably do. BTW, in ~70-days, 2 nazi armies were annhilated in Normandy, including ~2,200 Tanks and SPG's. FUBAR'd = 1st SS, 2nd SS, 9th SS, 10th SS, 12th SS Pz Divs; 17 SS PzGr Div; Pz Lehr Div; 2nd, 11th, 21st, & 116th Pz Divs, etc.

  • hahaha...Eastern Front went into the tens of millions on both the RUssian and German side....80 % of german army was wiped out in that conflict.

  • Hi recently came across this footage and my grandfather is featured 31/33 seconds into the the film. Could anyone help me obtain a copy of the pathy news reel. Thanks Susanne Rafferty

  • If I was a D day American solider I would say I am not afraid to die loud enough that the soldiers near me would hear it.

  • ive been to these landings

    sure hell of a lot of men died, and i even found an old patrol german bunker

    really amazing place

  • calibre 9 lo que intentaron decirte es eres un pendejo pero no pienso eso xD

  • cant think of anything smart to say u spaniard wannabe fuck huh? lol go get raped by a dog

  • D-Day was not 'over rated', and Stalin had great praises for it. The campaigns in both Italy and France tied down or mauled over 80 nazi divisions, and also tied down ~12 divs. in Norway, & a few in Denmark. The nazis eventually had ~21 Divs. fighting Tito in Yugoslavia. Zhukov of the USSR stated that the USSR may not have been able to hold on without the vast amounts of Allied economic and military aid that allowed the USSR to switch most of their truck production to making Tanks & Arty. etc.

  • christof139: Normandy was Overrated...The Eastern Front conflict decimated the NAZi Invasion. Hitler's army sustained the most causulites in that conflict. Normandy was pretty much empty except for their scattered pill boxes..Hilter never expected an invasion so why bother put his men on that line??....if you look at all the footage of D-day....you only see pillbox action....

    Operation Barbarosa was a 3-4 year conflict that the Nazi's never recovered from.

  • Holy Cow are you wrong! WOW.. hard to believe you can know so little and yet post like an authority. WOW...this is so bad I can't even begin to fix it. WOW... I suggest moving on to another subject for you.

  • source me something other than opinion.

  • hello im smelmore fuck yeah

  • see where it happened on ONE-DAY-IN

  • now thats war not like todays bullshit where u have to state your name rank and present your weapon before u can shoot someone

  • show some respect for the people who lost their lives on DDAY u arrogant prick. what if you was on that beach front, watching all of your friends being ripped to shreds around you, and some how making out alive, would you say it was overated? what would you feel like if some dick said it was overated? yes there was much MUCH longer, brutal battles in history, especially the likes of verdun and somme in WW1 but that doesnt mean you can shrug off battles like normandy, where so many died. fool

  • fuck you need a good slap you ungreatful prick, you disgust me. you are the type of imbecile who has no respect for the generation of people who gave their lives for our freedom. i KNOW i speak for everyone else here when i say you are a fucking reject who is only talking bollocks for attention. faggot

  • wow looks like i got in ur skin pretttttty good numbnuts

    here its easy, watch Bloody Italy, those guys, even today, are labelled as the D-Day dodgers, angrily

    now take ur thumb outta your ass, unless ur comfortable

  • like i said, you are a complete imbecile, and yes you've 'got in my skin' as you so redneck like put it. you could come up with all the facts, figures, examples and information you fucking well want, it doesnt change a thing. i clearly stated before, all battles in world war 1 and 2 should be treated with the same amount of respect, as they were all brutal. but to regard one as overated, is the talk of an attention seeking prick such as yourself.notice the poor coment on your reply? exactly

  • wow looks like i really touched ur sensitive side batt, calling me a faggot...this is the outside worlds perspective of it numbnuts, not ur overglorified western history books

    go outside ur borders, UK, or singapore & read. Germany was fighting a 3 front war, with Russians already getting territory back

    all US did was kick an enemy while its falling. little known fact? the DDay enemies were conscripts from Denmark & Norway & young men on leave. BARELY vet forces.

    overrated in Europe = USA

  • Credit to everyone who fought in Normandy, you can't say it was easy or not real fighting, but I see where your anger comes from. You're so right that history has been repainted to make it an American hero story which is deeply ignorant, arrogant and insulting.

    The Russians had it so tough, fighting quality veteran Nazis in the east, yet killed 10 Nazis for every 1 killed by the US.

    Even at D-day there were more commonwealth forces than Americans. So sad that people learn history from Hollywood.

  • yes you did touch a sensitive side. i agree dday is painted as an american victory, with no mention of the british and other troops who lost thier lives. but to say its overated is the talk of a fucking idiot with no respect.you need to grow up and listen to the bullshit your spouting. also the conscripts done a pretty good job, didnt they? my 6 year old son couldve sat there, at the top of that beach spraying all those poor soldiers. to say they were lesser soldiers is pathetic. u r an imbecile

  • "my 6 year old son couldve sat there, at the top of that beach spraying all those.."

    not just the 1 day on d-day numbnuts, try d-day+60

    american role in normandy campaign = way overrated

    thats all, if u dont like that fact then u can suck the fattest part of my left nut & stop whining

    allies had a cake walk in the west.

  • i didnt say anything about one day you childish little cretin. also your a disgusting, jumped up little prick who is trying to look better by coming up with nonsense. i cant believe what im hearing here, you really are a sad, attention seeking idiot. you proved that with ur prepubecant rant of a reply.typical useless cod generation, im guessing you a spottty little teenager? cos you'll never be a man.

  • professor dont try too hard to sound intellectual here ahaha, as if u talk normally like that

    its only youtube shitstick. through my actual studies i can answer almost any history subject on par, so try me

    cant help u yelp like a tween when i criticize an obvious fact about normandy. overrated. cry a lil more? heh

    & what the hell is cod generation? somesort of fish the battfinkz family has on their family tree? ur uncle fuck a fish?

  • like i said cretin, you could be the stephen hawking of world war 2, it doesnt detract from the fact you are an insensitive, disrespectfull sack of shit. any soldier dying in any battle is not overated. to say such things is unbelievable. its a shame you tube is full of pricks like you. cod is short for call of duty. you are no doubt from this cod, hollywood action generation who thinks weapons are 'cool' and 'fun'. weapons should never have been invented, just like the woman you crawled out of

  • err.. okay we can talk about videogames too finkz

    leave it to nerds to come up with gamer slang, lol cod

  • i expected the typical, bullshit reply. well done sherlock

  • stick to vid games kid, im so cool i put my moms lancer as a profile pic. wow nerdo

    d-day overrated. lets talk about real heroes. hello ruskies, thanks to killing three quarters of our enemies

  • it just cements the reality that you are a pathetic little maggot, to be getting jealous over my car. also ill repeat myself, since things seem to have a hard time getting through your thick skull. i never once said dday was worse than any other battle in any way, all i said was your a prick for saying people losing their lives, fighting for your freedom, was overated. your so sad it makes me feel sorry for you and anyone who has the misfortune of knowing you

  • calibre9, "the real heroes" killed a lot of your enemies. They also killed a lot of people of nations who were basicly your friends. And the real heroes had their comissars who killed their own people without hesitating. If they really were your friends why there was the cold war?

  • yes they did cause the USA came in and supplied everyone cause we were the most industrialized country back then nub

  • "thank ur allies america, they destroyed 75% off SS Panzer & Luftwaffe the 3 yrs before DDay".... America weren't even in the war 3 yrs before D-Day, Britain fought alone for a year, joined by Commonwealth forces in Europe, North Africa, the Mediterranean and the Atlantic later.

    In Italy the Americans fucked off to Rome, against planned strategy, for a hero's welcome instead of cutting off the retreating Germans, costing thousands of lives in that campaign and millions in the lengthened war.

  • The americans didnt join the war till after it had been going on for just over 2 years, theres big propaganda on the German U-Boat which destroyed a passenger liner that had sailed from the US to the UK in the Irish sea, which was carrying Americans and other citizens from other countries.

  • Uhh that was the case in WW1 not in WW2

    Pearl Harbor was the cause for the US joining ww2 (anyone who's not completly retarded knows that)

  • You Americans are no different, Your schools dont teach about the war in vietnam.... Because you lost it!

  • we do teach about t, we focus more on the things that changed the world. like the world wars. the veitnam war is tought in the post ww2 era for its political events during the cold war

  • Have you been in Ameican schools? If not you can't say anything.

  • Yes, I did an interim course at a school in Wisconsin after I graduated.

  • Really? I was taught about the Veitnam war. We didn't emphazie it as much as the other wars though.

  • This war was a situation on win or lose. It was a very seriouse operation and also very very dangerouse. The reason why d-day came was that wee allies had a very big motivation, wee never gaved up. Germany was the enemy and when you dont give up you will success. And wee all where brothers in arms.

  • the allies needed the US to win the war, it wasn't that we were too pathetic to do it on our own.

    that war formed many bonds and links between great countries today, and shows just how significant working together can be.

  • anyways...

    R.I.P brave soldiers who fought for our freedom =(

  • Amazing footage! You don't often see video of the Brits or Canadians landing, so often over shadowed by our US brothers in arms, so this is a rare treat. Nice Job. Got any more??!!

  • Of course when the American came into it, the war turned around.

    They certainly wouldn't have won it on its own, same as Britain wouldn't.

    Children started learning about the war at school in the US in the 60's. They were taught how the USA saved the world and all this. They were taught that right in the middle of a cold war. Propaganda!

  • All the allies played a vital role in the defeat of Germany. But, without the men and Industrial might of the US, Germany would never have been defeated. That's not down playing the British and other allied nations role, that's just historical fact.

  • Thats not historical fact thats a personal opinon...

  • Ya, you need to pick up a book or do some research.

  • I suppose we could have used nuclear bombs on Germany too. Greatful for the great burdens borne by the British, and the Russians. You know, the Russians lost over a million Second Lieutenants.

    The Canadians had a key role, attacking Dieppe, where many (sad) lessons on amphibious lessons were learned. US General Lucian Truscott Jr was there as an observer.

  • No, we couldn't have used nukes on Germany. The first one wasn't ready until after Germany had surrendered.

  • Also, using nuclear weapons Germany would have severe implications on the rest of Europe.

    Japan is made up of four islands, so the other far eastern countries would not have been affected.

  • I didnt forget anyone. The comment that I was responding was to someone that basically said that Britian didnt need anyone, they were going to defeat Gemany by them self. Which never would have happen. I do recognize that the the US couldnt have defeated Japan and Germany by them self. Through many nations the evils of ww2 were beaten back.

  • Well lets remember that the USA sat by while Europe burned for 2 years.Even their neglected neighbors to the north,the Canadians,jumped into the war at the outset (by choice,not because of an edict from Britain).So yes,thanks USA but don't get f'ing holy over it

  • Nothing personal but alot of Americans are still bitter UK didn't join in Vietnam.

    so they like to retort to saying we bailed you out. what america doesn't realise is the 80% of the D-day troops were British.

  • lol without the help of the ussr we wudnt have won shit

  • NEVER!!!

    The glorious dead will never be forgotten. The bravery of those glorious allies will never be surpassed.

  • who gives a fuck whos declared 'the winners'. means nothing after war.

  • FUCK WAR

  • WTF? why are they bombing fields?

    retarded pilots

  • The UK is bowing down to extremist Islam, and it's only a matter of time before Europe stands against the Muslim attempt to impose their beliefs on Europe or suffer the consequences.

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  • The scary part of this world we now live in; if the American people lose their rights and freedom to arm themselves, America falls. If America falls, Europe will knuckle under to the extremist Muslims who seek to conquer the world through fear and we'll have a world dominated by Sharia laws. Britain and Denmark are already kissing the ass of crazy religious leaders demanding tolerance while they shut the mouths of free people and brand them extreme if they speak against Islam.

  • thats.. gotta to be the stupidest thign ive ever heard ... lol

  • Not really, it is happening here in the UK, you can be persecuted for criticising Islam.

  • who shouldnt be persucted for critising any religion? anyone who does is just wastin them time.

  • now isn't that a fucking joke...must be some kind of real fucked up religion if they can't take any critical evaluation. What assholes.

  • well tehn!prepare to be shutted up!

  • A coalition of allied nations won WW2, however without American equipment and fuel Hitler would have won. We were giving help to the Russians, British, the French resistance, everyone relied on either supplies, intel or both from America.

    All wars have their profiteers, WW2 was no different. This was a war that had to be won by the allies, there was no alternative that would have been acceptable. God bless all those who fought for freedom.

  • Dam brits , They were so gay if it wasent for US they would of gotten there arse kicked! HURRA

  • USA Didn't win world war 2 on their own. USA entered world war 2 so certain parties could profit from it. Not for ideals or freedom or justice. The allies of world war 2 included a huge range of countries, the pan american union, usa, canada, british commonwelth, ussr, france, etc etc. It's lude to say that the USA won WW2. Thats just the american way though: make a contribution but take all the cred.

    Peace.

  • make a contribution? f4f, f6f, f4u, p38, p39,p40, p47, p51, b17,b24, b25, b26, b29, just to name a FEW. not counting all the ground vech., hundreds of thousands of troops, surface ships and subs, fighting on 2 fronts! I would say the US made more than just a contribution and way more than 99% of the allies put out there. If the US had not helped the UK they would have been beaten, only a matter of time. dont forget the japs were taking all of aisa and was working on the ausies who were loosing

  • USA is like 35 times bigger then the UK, so you can clearly see why USA contributed so much to the war. however, the USA only got invloved when they were attacked, if it was left down to the USA they would of left the allied forces to be overrun by the nazi's. most amercians are full of shit and the only reason why they think they won the war, is because there is so many of you you all agree to the same thing, and this making a large populationg of the world think the same thing

  • only got involved after we were attacked? The Us was involved couple years before that in the way of food and oil supplys, arms, and even pilots. My great grandfather was a merchant marine and his ship was sunk on the way to the UK with food by a german U-boat. Im not going so far as to say we saved the UKs butt, however you can not say it didnt help. You have to remeber, this was right after ww1, very messy and we were not ready to face it again. I think they sat to long, but cant change it now

  • I'm pretty sure we did the same sort of thing during Nam but I'm not going to claim a big contribution. I don't know why so many of these people can't get on, we are supposed to be on the same side.

  • did YOUR country hav eto suffer the blitz?

    was your air force pushed tot he limit to defend your skies?

    the TRUE saviours of Great Britain are none other than the RAF- and the fact that we were able to take such a pounding by the german at dunkirk and the battle of Britain etc AND STILL keep on fighting is a testament to the British Bulldog fighting spirit

    even without the yanks helping out, the Geramns would never have conquered Britian

  • true!

  • First of all, what choice did you have but to fight. Second, even if you finally did win, you would have had almost no cities to come back too because they were kicking your ass. How about a thank you. That would safice my friend. Your welcome. Both of my grandfathers went over and risked their lives to help save your country. Your welcome. LOL God Bless the USA. Thank you WW2 vets. God bless you.

  • shut up

  • LOL no

  • What choice did the US have but to fight? It tried to remain neutral but the Germans declared war on them. If Britain had surrendered (that was a choice they had) or lost the Battle of Britain where would D-Day have been launched from? The Germans would have the whole of West Europe and maybe even beaten back the Soviet Union. Then they could have helped the Japs. So whilst we are all eternally grateful for the US's contribution, the world would be different place without the Brits in WW2.

  • I agree

  • exactly, so why is there still people out there taht insist that the us won the war all by them self. i dont understand how they get to that conclusion :S

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  • certainly not the case. there was a lot of ally help.

  • I wouldn't worry about it. It's an education thing; we're all taught that our own country is the best - ask any Frenchman about Napoleon and I bet they won't mention Waterloo, ask a Brit if he knows of any time when we lost a war and he probably won't know one. The propaganda in education in the US is just as strong, I think many are taught that, in WW2, the US heroicly and selflessly came to the rescue of the poor helpless UK! It's not thier fault; they're often just not taught the truth."

  • brits know what war they lost, its called the american revolution

  • Quite right, any American knows that (many people in the UK "forget" that war). In the same way that any Brit will know that one of the most significant battles in WW2 was the Battle of Britain yet many in the US seem to have missed that particular history lesson.

  • Vietnam, how did that go?

    By the way, how's Iraq going?

    I see that theres no US troops in Iran. Why is that? is it because Iran will fight back?

    Note to the American public - I'm not hitting out at you because I think you're great and have always been really hospitable whenever I have been over there, but I think your armed forces are a bunch of bandits.

    Bush was a wanker too. Obama is the real deal I think.

  • Ouch that hurts! Militarily, Vietnam went well, we never really lost a major or minor engagement. Iraq is coming around, it does take time, much like Germany and Japan after WW2. I take GREAT offense to calling our armed forces "bandits". That is just not true. Our politics and politicians are the problem. They suck and Obama is NOT the real deal. Oh and we can fight Iran, they are no better than the sorry assed army we fought in Iraq.

  • How is Obama the real deal and Bush a wanker when Obama is carrying out the war the exact same way Bush handled it? The time lines set for withdrawal in Iraq where being set before Obama came into office as well as calls for a surge in Afghanistan.

  • u do need to read a book, obama has different tactics for gettin rid of those vigen terrorist fuckers.

    obama is the real deal.

  • Boy, have you got you're head up your ass.!

  • What did we win for it all?

  • You lost many battles and the war. You killed a million what? Villagers defending their homes with barely any weapons? Big deal, it counts for nothing but shame on the US. It lost the war.

    You lost Iraq too, the enemy is stronger, you're weaker and retreating and paying billions for private "security" firms.

    Get over yourself. The USA is suffering for that almighy failure, many big corporations are of course benefiting from massive contracts "gained" but its a net loss for regular Americans.

  • dude stfu u dont know wat ur talkin about. we pay private security firms to protect diplomats, thats not what our militarys for. and we won every major battle in vietnam and we did lose the war, but our military was not defeted, our politics were.

  • I know exactly what I'm talking about. Even in 2006 it was 1 private security person per soldier. A tiny portion of them are there to protect diplomats. They protect executives, contractors and contract premises, train police, escort supply convoys, destroy poppies, clear and secure areas, fight, die, everything the military does, also paid by the US govt.

    Dyncorp, USPI, Blackwater, GRS. This is the cost of occupation, paid by US taxpayers and very profitable for those who made the war happen.

  • that sounds like all the bs work the military doesnt want to do. why do u care about what my tax dollars are goin to, u dont even live in the US. and how do u figure we lost the iraq war. do u know we reached baghdad deafeated saddams army and toppled his regime in 3 weeks? then later we found him and gave him over to iraq and they executed him. and i read that some iraqis were scared were leaving to early cuz we cant protect them no more. what do we have to do to win?

  • it's all the work that the military are there to do, on the ground.

    you're right i don't live there, i'm glad i left and i feel sorry for you that you dont realise what a waste of your money it is. reaching baghdad was a cinch, the army knew there was no point standing ground in the desert to get blown away from the sky, hence the total chaos those that wanted to fight have caused ever since. are you surprised some are scared now? their countries in tatters. what a total mess and failure.

  • TO WIN: either stay there and pour every cent of US money into actually rebuilding the country (that should be the responsibility of invasion) making it a safe, secure and prosperous place (where iraqis benefit from their countries resources, not foreign contractors and governments). OR instead of creating a living hell pursue other means to remove a dictator (although remember that was never the aim, remember WMDs?), like supporting Iraqis and good politics, not killing millions with sanctions.

  • jus to let you know right now i didnt beleve there were WMDs in Iraq, and i dont think we were there for oil, i think Bush wanted saddam and that was it. And do u know why people call it the Iraq war? because its a WAR, a place of WAR is not safe, a place of WAR is not secure, and a place of ?WAR definetly aint prosperous. WAR is terrible thing WAR is hell theres no way around it.

  • It's amazing that it's enough these days to invade a country, call it a WAR and use that as the excuse for very high civilian loss, abuse, destruction and exploitation of a country, it's people and resources. WAR is a convenient excuse for the perpetrators to do what they want "hey, it's WAR, bad things happen"

    War is VERY prosperous if you're selling arms, technology, security, gaining resources and contracts.

    Sorry everyone for our to-and-fro on this page about Normandy - boring I know.

  • dont get off track. we won that war.

  • You say it like there's triumph. War against what army? The one that magically disappeared, some of whose members still kill US troops today? They haven't been beaten, they've died in many multiples of US forces, but still flourished and now can even more so, at greater cost to you, now that the military is bailing out, leaving a mess.

    Are you so desperate to feel patriotic that you want to believe a huge shameful national mistake was a war, necessary and justly won? Get some self-esteem dude.

  • are you stupid or something? u comment me first on something i left a long long time ago tellin me we lost the iraq war then you go off track talkin bout some other stuff and i try to bring it back to the orignal point and u think im braging. and if u knew anything about whats goin on you would know the coalition made major increase in security before we hande over control to iraq. and just to let you know we are still in their backyard. why should they stop fighting?

  • I didn't say you lost it as such. its more complex than this dumb idea of the invasion being a war and there being a winner and a loser (certainly more complex than your criteria of a 3-week race to Baghdad).

    Look, you tear a country apart, decimate its active population by death, injury, trauma, destruction and theft of their resources, misplacement and exile, THEN "increase security" and hand back the conflict-fucked smokin dilapidated turd of a country. It's no achievement. Get perspective.

  • i never claimed it as an achievement. u the one that brang it up. there were some casualties that were unecesary, but for the most part i say if the didnt want to die or get their homes destroyed, they shouldnt have attacked our soliders.

  • Wow, what the hell are you talking about? Who attacked your soldiers? Regular innocent civilians living in baghdad, as their country was invaded!? Coalition soldiers weren't even there to be attacked as bombs and missiles rained down from planes and ships in the gulf, as they had been doing occasionally, every week since the first "gulf war". Fuck dude, even GW Bush could school you on how the invasion of Iraq happened.

    Read a book before replying again and making yourself look more silly.

  • yet that was the only one !

  • But we did. Twice, in 1917 and 1942. Of course the declaration of war by Hitler had something to do with it the second time.

  • Britain declared war on Germany, Germany did not declare war on Britain

    Your military got raped in all it's theatres of war, and were pushed all the back to your stinking island

    Britain did not make an offensive until USA arrived for D-Day

  • Wrong! Does Dieppe ring a bell?!? No US forces there. OOpps almost forgot N. Africa. Learn your history then come back and play with the big boys.