@blahkanig Funny, ur vid says u got 250whp, and you forgot to mention your injectors.. Regardless, i've seen official dyno sheets from mopar, imona take their word for it. And either way, 280whp isn't the same as 400whp. I'm running around the same whp you have with a stock turbo too (2005 sti cobb stage 2), and i sure as hell can't go up to 400 whp with a stock clutch, injectors, and intercooler.
@failchawi ...........Dude, the stock 04 05 injectors are "stage 1" Thats not an upgrade. If I were to have the 03 engine then I'd list it. And my dyno video wasn't my peak WHP. That was like mid way. I put down 255whp like mid pulls, I made 280whp but turned the boost back down because the car was leaning out. So we enriched it up as my car is a DD. Srt's aren't sti's We don't need a bigger intercooler til 350hp/bigger turbo. Clutch and injectors will be needed after 300hp.
@11milsti..btw mr ricer boy..the zo6 debut is 2001....not 2004... and for somebody that supposidly has a bad ass car..ya don't have any videos of it. Is it Invisable??
@11miksti..dude your so fucking immature. Ricers will be ricers. Btw put the same shit in the ws6 and the sti. Wont stand a chance even if their was a 7 yr old boy behind the wheel of it. Just saying. Stock for stock. The sti is just a tuner for people with no balls. Real men go for american muscle. At least the neon is american. Ill stick to my domestic shit. Nobody likes little punks with big mouths. Its a 4 cylinder..wow..I can throw a stage 2 cam and heads on my v6 Mustang and blow ur asslol
people who hate on srt-4 neons! you can't act like they are gay( despite being a neon!) for their time 2002! stock would freakn rape on what? rsx-s? gts? or honda's with b16's, gsr's! shit stage two would hang with vette's! till 04 when the zo6 made its debut....................
Eh Subaru barely had much on the srt-4 besides. You put the same dollar amount into the srt as the wrx the subaru would get its ass handed to it:) I hate ricer cars with a passion. My dads bone stock ws6 would eat the shit out of one. And with a simple tune it would eat the shit out of a full bolt on wrx.
people are really fucking stupid.... subaru is Japanese and Chrysler out of all the american cars have THE WORST quality statistically. get your facts straight.. fucking retards
@neat4lyfe1982 you should probably know something about cars before you comment on a car video. calling a subaru an italian car is probably one of the dumbest comments i've ever seen. bravo to you for making yourself look like an idiot..
wtf is all this shit talk about half of you wouldn't say shit to each others face who cares you ppl just like to ramble how about u spend your time on your car rather than on youtube
American made 4 cylinder cars are THE definition of rice. Id drive a Civic any day over one a those crappily built lumps of scrap metal you guys call a "fast car"
some people are masters at ignoring reality, whether you like or dislike a brand for whatever reasons, it is all just personal perceptions, there is tons of vids on YT with the srt-4 calibers making examples out of other well established performers, these things are crazy performers i have seen one killing golf r32s and audi s en masse in germany, and some people don't k now any better than resorting to nationalistic insults "american cars are all garbage" and inept stuff like that,
@CHUUMPASS: lol @ killing things like a Golf R32...it's a friggin luxo-barge hatch, not a raw sport compact. Don't compare a POS like a Dodge Caliber to the R32, everything about the R32 is leaps and bounds nicer, better looking, more comfortable and better built than a Caliber.
@850wagonT5 whether you like it or not is your personal preference, but "POS" as you say is clearly not what i have witnessed with my own eyes! i wasn't talking about interiors or built quality which of course are a different story in the high-end R32, i was simply stating what i saw in a dodge caliber and what it has put on the road, which left an R32 piss poor looking in terms of performance and speed! i have no reason to defend dodge, as i am a german,
@850wagonT5 plus an R32 is certainly NO where near any "luxurious features" and it isn't so comfortable either! i suggest you drive one, especially the mark 4 models have very cheap and unsupportive seats, and the interior quality may be still a little bit better than in a dodge caliber, but it is marginally at best!
On the 2011 Caliber, Motor Trend writes: "we’d suggest checking out almost any of the competition instead—they’re better to drive—or simply waiting until the Caliber’s replacement arrives within the next year or two if you have to have a Chrysler product." HAHAHAHA!!!!! In other words - PIECE OF SHITE CAR! =D
"Speaking of not sitting quite right, that’s fundamental flaw number two: stepping into the SRT4 feels like commandeering a bite-sized tank, a sensation as well-suited to a sport-compact as diarrhea is to dating."
"If you’re stuffing the SRT4 into a rinky-dink hairpin, well, llllet’s get ready to fumble! Here, the nose-heavy SRT4 scrubs harder than Molly Maids."
@850wagonT5 i don't care too much what links you come up with as that leads to nowhere anyway, as i`m sure that i could dig up links that has people "loving" the caliber as you`d say, so, anyway, you seem to miss the point, i just said that i saw a caliber kicking the crap out of cars you`d claim to be head and shoulders above it, and as a matter of fact that very same caliber is still running strong as the guy who owns it lives in my area,
@850wagonT5 and i asked him about the car, as i know he has driven quite many performance cars, and he said the caliber`s downsides are easily to be forgotten over its upsides, and that pretty much said it all to me. it is a "hate it or love it" approach that does hold its own coming out of nowhere against quite a number of well established performers! with the aerodynamics of a brick and "commandeering feel of a tank" i`d still say it can move around remarkably well,to be seen in many vids onYT
@CHUUMPASS That's cool man, you are clearly allowed to like what you want...but the Caliber SRT is cheap and tunable. That's about it. It's easy to make it quick, but it's nowhere near in the same league (build quality, interior comfort, interior noise, fit and finish, handling...remember that's not the same as road holding...etc) as something like the R32 or the Audis you compared it to. That's like comparing a Neon SRT to a 350Z. One is a much more "grown up" car than the other.
@850wagonT5 of course a neon/caliber srt are not as grown up as, say a nissan 350z, as i said before, these are well established long standing models whereas the caliber pretty much was thrown in out of nowhere, but speaking of quality, interiors , i don't think that the nissan 350z for instance is a benchmark for that, as you can find a lot of cheap hard touch platics cramped all over it just like you would in the caliber. also we have to keep the price difference in mind
@850wagonT5 also i have to say again, that i did not care too much about interior materials as i was watching the caliber srt eating up audi s3`s & 4s and golf gti`s and r32`s !
I would not drive a baseline dodge neon or a Lancer or a regular WRX. But i would dirve are EVO, SRT-4 or a STI. I was all into the honda scene and thought the SRT-4 WAS CRAP until i drove one. I sold my b20 on boost and got the srt-4. Now i don't have to worry about the smell of burning oil because piston rings are going. The SRT-4 motor can take anything u throw at it all day everyday. 320 whp here I beat on her everyday all day and still fells like day one.
So were going to argue that a SRT is a cheap made car with lots of power. At the end of the day its still a Neon with a turbo. No more desirable to drive. Its wrong wheel drive.
@killersushi99 u guys are so fucking dumb the srt4 is 100% dif built then a reg neon the motor the gearbox the clutch the suspension the over all drive and feel of the car its all about fun u fucking homos out here talking shit just make it point less to even drive cars ur cocky pussys online untill it comes time to throw it down on the black top ur shit talk stops!
srt-4 stage 3 kits makes about 350whp...and with the stage 3 kit the srt-4 still maintains its factory warranty. NOW IF THE SRT-4 ENGINE COULD NOT WITHSTAND THAT KIND OF POWER SAFELY FOR EVERDAY DRIVING THEN DODGE WOULD NOT WARRANTY STAGE 3 KITS FOR THE SRT-4. I have seen 400 whp srt-4 being daily driven for years.
@saadique Srt-4 MOPAR stage 3 kits make 310 hp, and 350 hp on high octane. NOT WHP... 400whp srt4's daily driven for years is a load of crap, your motor wud kill itself, and ur clutch wud go bye bye on the first day. So for your own knowledge, 310 hp on pump gas = around 250-260 WHP ON STAGE 3 FOR SRT-4.
@blahkanig No, point is you're throwing out ridiculous numbers when you don't have your facts straight, hence what you're saying is really out of whack. And there are sti's with close to 400 whp (480-550 on the flywheel) with stock intercoolers, much higher than srts... Just because it works doesn't mean its efficient and good for your car. I'm not saying the srt is a bad car in any way (arguably i could), all i'm saying is that you're over exaggerating gains vs aftermarket parts.
@failchawi Over exaggerating?? Numbers are just that number. The FACT IS an SRT-4 with a stage 3 kit will produce 250whp?........Listen to that logic, even though dodge watered down advertised numbers on the srt-4, if it's a 05 srt it "has" "230hp". Your claim is saying a stage 3 kit, big turbo, tune, injectors, pcm = 20+hp......................Doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize you are wrong. /proven
@blahkanig K i can't believe i have to repeat myself, you seem to be lacking the concept of ''''WHEEL HP VS FLYWHEEL HP''''. 250-250 whp is around +80 hp, NOT 20 hp.. Mopar says the stage 3 kit offers 310 flywheel hp, hence +95 hp from 215, and +80 hp from 230 hp, 310hp = around 250 whp, doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
@failchawi@failchawi ......................................STOCK SRT-4's DYNO AT 240+WHP all day! Do some research!! What you are saying is there is no point in buying an s3 kit for the car.
@davidpaulin so subie guys can only dream of 500hp on stock interanls? yeah they only dream of them because its not necessary for wrx to run 500hp just to beat an SRT4.. oh just to reassure your ignorance subarus are sooo much more safer than the srt4 subarus are not cheaply made because they have some of the highest scores in the national safety rating, second i dont know whos subaru you got into but they dont rattle and 3rd quit yapping about 500hp srt4s with stck internals theyre useless,
@CaliMellow84 dude 500hp on a srt4 on stock internals? do you honestly buy that? ive seen an RB26 and 2JZ do 700+ with stock internals and those cars were no joke.
@BoredomKills25 i think an srt-4 has the potential to make about as much power as two retarded mules gettin it on! srt-4 owners just bash everyone else cuz they're pissed they can't get someone with a REAL tuner car to trade with them!
@BoredomKills25 Your ignorance is amazing. The SRT-4's A853 has roots in the 420a and 4g63/4g64. Two of the best performance four cyl designs of all time. They can easily handles 500+hp on the stock internals, and even then only the pistons become the weak link. You can trash talk all you want but fact remains that the SRT outperformed EVERY car in its class in handling/braking/acceleration and still out performed cars above its class in certain categories all while costing much less.
@li7in6 they "outperform" because no one else offers a stock turbo car in it's class. I guarantee you if the civic si came factory turbo your poor little srt would get raped.
@CaliMellow84 You've just proven my point. A turbo honda with enough power to compete with the SRT-4 would have been much more expensive. Hell the RSX will LESS power, WORSE handling, and WORSE braking was MORE expensive. You think Honda would have pulled another 40+hp and 100+lb-ft out of their ass and somehow kept the price the same? No, the RSX cost more and had pitiful performance compared to the SRT-4, the civic Si of the time was even worse. Honda apologetics always make me lol.
The A853 is NOT the 4G63 though. In fact, they're almost nothing alike when it comes to potential. 4G63 is a far superior engine. If the pistons become a weak link @ 500bhp, then the stock internals can't handle 500bhp. Pistons are considered internal engine parts. Also, SRT4s don't have the handling capability that STis have. If you put them on a real track like Tsukuba or Nurburgring, you'd see that immediately. It's a good car in its own right for much less but there is a reason for that.
@DOHCEJ22E1 I said the A853 is capable of 500hp+ and only THEN do the pistons become the weak link. I never said it was superior to the 4g63 but fact remains that is based off the 4g63/4g64 and 420a design, this includes the high flowing cylinder head, sources of much of the 4g63/4420a's potential. The fact that the Sti handles better than an SRT-4 is moot. The Sti cost $10-15,000 more than the SRT-4 when new, yet the SRT-4 can give both the STi's and Evo's of the time a run for their money.
stop talkshit about srt4's .. they dominated SCCA over those jap cars like they did with the older neon too .. they are cheap to buy cheap to maintain and they have a much more potent engine than the subie .. yes they're fwd but there's a solution for drag racers called "slicks" and those awd guys asking for a 1st gear roll are just too afraid to do real rolling starts... i love subies but for twice the price of a srt the wise guy will know which one to pick
@bkeinath yup .. there's nothing to brag about when beating a 260-275whp car by a few inches .. and even then .. that lil srt just need a turbo upgrade to say any STi goodbye .. they srt engine has just so much more potential
@davidpaulin and when you do get that "turbo upgrade" I hope the subie has his windows up cuz the sound of that motor coming apart is gonna be loud as hell
@CaliMellow84 there's at least 2 locals in the 500whp's here and a few in the 400's.. should learn a bit before talking bro .. that only thing srt guys can rave about the subie is the AWD system .. other than that they're comparable car quality wise .. the STi is just an impreza after all .. it still had sheap interior .. noisy with doors made of paper and rattles everywhere .. we love these cars for what they can make on a track not for their actual quality because they're cheaply built
1)Sorry but in terms of REAL potential (not just tuning but building), the EJ series edges out ANY Chrysler 4 cylinder of the present.
2)Who the HELL does "rolling starts"? What are we, still in high school? I'd love to see the day that a Neon could keep up with my Subaru in a corner.
3)SRT4s are nice, no doubt. But don't give them too much glory. You still need TONS of work to get them to handle properly.
3)STis have more handling capability than an SRT4. It just takes more skill to reach it.
@DOHCEJ22E1 1) The closest competition for the SRT-4 was the more expensive WRX. The SRT-4's A853 is a much more stout engine than the EJ20 of the time (open deck, weaker internals)
2) Most opportunistic races are rolling starts in the real world. FWD is far from ideal but also take into account the fragility of the WRX's 5 speed. Also note the SRT-4 WAY out-handled, out-braked and out-accelerated the WRX for less money with more power potential.
1)The A853 is a 2.4L which would mean that it's closer to the 257 (STi 2.5L) in rivalry.
2)Now compare the SRT4's 5 speed to the STi's 6 speed, in which it would have the advantage over due to having taller gears despite not being quite as stout (SRT4 transmissions are STRONG for what they are though.)
3)10K isn't MUCH more expensive but it does leave room for tuning/modification. LOTS of it. SRT4 wins in that category by far.
4)SRT4s were underrated in power, putting out 230WHP factory. Damn.
@DOHCEJ22E1 1) The fact that its engine is most comparable to that of a car that is 50%+ its price point(STi) is a testament to the value of the SRT-4.
2) Comparing transmissions (esp. awd to fwd) is shaky at best, obviously the scoob 6 speed is the superior trans, but again its in a more expensive car. For a transversely mounted fwd gearbox the SRT-4's is about as good as it gets in terms of durability/power holding (however it is lacking in feel/slop, it is out of a transit van after all).
@DOHCEJ22E1 3) $10,000 was ~50% of the cost of the SRT-4. not an insubstantial amount and often overlooked when people compare a cars that cost 50-75% more. And even then the comparisons aren't entirely unfavorable. The SRT-4 was so good it was pointless to compare to cars in its class.
4) SRT did a number on the PT's engine. 230whp and 250+ft-lbs. Almost unheard of in its bracket(cobalt SS was closest) until its spiritual successor the Mazdaspeed3. Even then the MS3 was/is more expensive.
@DOHCEJ22E1 u again see everyone here is proving to you ur stupid subie is fucking junk man sorry wen neon first came out they out performed subie in the scca and still do even to this day pull ur head out of ur piece of shit cars ass!
How is Subaru junk when Crawford Performance tuned one to 700bhp on stock internals?
Shut the fuck up.
Your Neon ain't gonna' kill a Spec C, RA, or 22B so please stop.
It's also NOT going to take down any GC STi, a model AHEAD of your Neon's time!
Even a Legacy Twin Turbo RS would put it on the SRT4.
I respect the SRT4 Neon because of it's performance & potential but you have to understand that for the price, you're not getting AWD with legal rally performance in a Neon.
@ilovegmh do you not know that the 2011 STI is the worlds fastest production sedan? beating the CTS-V and Porsche Panamera around the nurburgring. I don't care if your piece of shit neon can win by a hair in a drag race, it can't touch an STI in a real race. The 2011 STI holds the track record for production sedans on the nurburgring, what does your dodge do?
@FadedRX8 You're comparing a brand new 2011 STI to a car that hasn't been in production for 6 years? You can hate on the Dodge all you want but for it's time and for the price the SRT-4 was a great car. I don't know why people have to be so biased. I love STI's but I own an SRT-4 and I would never compare the two because they care completely different classes of cars. And yes the STI is a much better car I've driven one and for the extra 15k I would expect it to be a better car.
@FadedRX8 Actually, the 2012 BMW M5 is the fastest production sedan to do the Nurburgring lap. The STI that was tested was a prototype, with alot of non-optional parts. Still pretty fast, just sayin. I love all fast cars, fwd, rwd, awd, doesn't matter to me.
@WarpedNut Amen to that. Slobalts and SloparT-4s suck. Its all about the good old Iron Clad American cars. In terms of modern day succes, it goes to Japanese cars. My friends favorite quite "Call me a ricer, I dont care cuz my Evo will dust you anywhere." Kinda chessy, but I laughed when he said it. Cheers all.
@TheStoneunturned The quarter mile proves nothing, your AWD, he's FWD. Take away the launch factor and you would be lucky to be 2 car lenghts on. I don't know what your mods are but I destroy STIs from a roll even though they have a significant power advantage. IMO, I'm not convinced that they deliver the power well. Then again it's all about preference, if you want to be saved by the 1/4 mile, the STI is alright but if you don't like people passing you on the highway, do not buy one.
@Turbalt The 2004-2006 sti's have short gearing that isn't really good for straight line performance. Also, even fully built with the best parts in existance, the powerband for the 2.5 liter engine isn't really good for straight races. You'll find that the 2.0L WRXs are much faster in a straight line, not only because of the longer gears of the 5 speed, but because the powerband of the 2 liter is better for straight races.
how does it feel to be slower than a "toy"?? STis arent slow by any means...the SRT4 is faster im saying 04 SRT4 Vs. 04 STI... stop comparinga 04 SRT4 to a fucking 2011 subi. yes subaus are nice cas and they do look good......yes..but do some reseach on the neon r/t and you will see that the neon has been in the rally game longer than the WRX and the STI..all that im ssaying is that the SRT4 is faster in a straight line..exactly what its ment for.
nice example of a wrx im running a V7 STi with forged PBMS block and GT3071R as a track car and currently building a 2JZ supra for street and strip. haven't had much experience racing anything american here in New Zealand but love old School american muscle.
yea you slowbaru guys dont have shit.... SRT4 makes more WHEEL horsepower and more torque...not to mention WAY lighter so...the facts are thee the SRT has a big advantage on the power to weight ratio.....i have yet to see even a remotley intelligent response from bitch ass subaru owners...you guys make me laugh oh but my shit its tuned bro dont fuck with this....HAHAHAHAHA subarus are nice cars but its too bad they arent on SRT4 NEON level.. THE TRUTH HURTS CUZ YOUR STILL MAKING PAYMENTS HAHAHA
@imaNinjazz What is a Srt Neon level? Im guessing good since thet beat all of the subarus from stock to stock. And your also comparing a Fwd car to a awd car. No shit the srt-4 isn't going to be the "rally champion'.
@brettsvchs How are you better than slowbaru when your only insulting. Srt-4 Are fast cars. Subaru Have a better look, better interior and AWD. Totally different cars. Can't see how you can say STI are slow cars.
@brettsvchs doesn't matter how much power you make on the skittle, its front wheel drive and you can't put it down. Trust me, no one wants to be on "srt" level, because its a pretty low one lol. SRT4 haven't done anything to prove but that a championship car or a contender in any racing environment . What they did is made a car thats cheap and anyone can afford, and that's it.
FYI I've owned an srt4 and sold it when I realized a regular srt4 driver will race a minivan lol!! srt=FAIL
@1hitkillforu you just feel saulty lol!Not my fault you can't read what I previously posted. You also must be a fortune teller to know what I do or don't know about cars by observing...... nothing!!!You should go invent something how intelligent you are buddy
@mobilesuitderka stop wasting your time on ignorant fucking stereotypical slowbaru douche bags.. they get SHIT on repeatedly by a SRT4 but there ego is so wack they fucking get on youtube and lie about it..and to clarify it is 25% loss in the drivetrain from your SLOW, OVERWEIGHT, OVERPRICED, piece of shit (AKA ALL SUBARUS) you slowbaru guys think your shit is faster no matter what.. but when i ruthlessly fuck with ALL STIs they always make the convienent right turn to duck my SRT4. GET RAPED
@srt4slow lets go to school then slapdick. sti's are 300hp STOCK to the flywheel. there is a loss from the hp in the motor to the drivetrain to the wheels. the loss is about 25%. so youre looking at around 227awhp. if youre gonna talk shit "go learn something" first. :) PS VF39 is a high spool low top end turbo, it will NEVER EVER go "well over 350awhp" i hope you dont own a subaru because you dont know shit about them.
@mobilesuitderka He said 350hp not 350awhp. A VF39 will make 350hp on an STi stage II or around 280awhp. I had one, I also owned a vf powered 04 WRX made 300hp on the 2.0.
Anyone else wondering why you can't hear the srt-4's exhaust at all?? I have a stage 2 catless 3......it drones....yet this sounds quieter than stock? hmm
ahaha if it was AWD? you know sti's and wrx's lose 18% of power through the drivetrain because they disperse their power through three transfer cases right?. if srt was AWD it would still be slower, just sayin. lol. track for track car wrx would eat it up. Nice vid tho, the SRT has balls that's for sure. top end surprised me..
Great race you guys, they are both cool cars. The STI is a little more spendy and has some nicer features, but the SRT is a great car that was built for around 25k really can't beat the price.
those numbers on the STi are false. Says nothing on the turbo, because if its a stock turbo it's impossible to make 340hp. that car is making no more than 300. Guaranteed especially not at 19.5lbs
Srt4 still did decent for racing another car thats not in its class or price range, the sti is much more expensive and AWD and only had a car length in the first race.
awd does sure kick ass if u got the power and grip for it! p.s. why do STI's sound so sweet kind of a mix between import & muscle,hmmmm.....the perfect balance?
I am a honda guy but I never forget when I bought the srt-4 I took it to a place call RAGE TEK..they have been building and tuning the srt-4 since they came out in 03. The guy that works there he is also the owner (great guy) he said I made a good choice buying the srt because their blocks can take 500 hp. I was like DAMN!
i have have nothing against honda ..i have b20 on boost myself along with the srt. I have seen fully built and sleeved b series put down 800 whp not to mention the k24 block with the type s head conbination but here I am talkin about stock honda motors and stock srt-4 motor. Which one is stronger? the srt-4 motor is definately a lot stronger. The srt-4 motor comes with forge connecting rods and eutectic pistons from the factory.
People who talk shit about the srt are whose who have no knowledge about the car or got spanked by one. WHEN U SEE REPUTABLE COMPANY SUCH A MOPAR SELLING STAGE 3 KITS FOR THE SRT-4 THAT PUTS DOWN 360 WHP JUST BY BLOTING IT ON THE CAR WHAT DOES THAT TELL EVERYONE ABOUT THE SRT-4 ENGINES??
Gotta love people racing and not just bashing on each other. And the fact that the STi was using its hazard lights, lol. Might be street racing, but at least he was being careful in that sense.
The srt-4 is always being compared to evos and sti and it is not in their class. It is in the class of civic si, rsx type s, sentra ser etc...but why isn't any of these car comprared to evos and sti. The answer is simple, they are no where near the performance of evos and sti. The SRT-4 BLOWS EVERY CAR WITHIN ITS PRICE RANGE OUT OF THE WATER AND IS BEING COMPARED TO CARS TWICE ITS PRICE.
@saadique i will admit srt4's are quick and have pretty good reviews, but they are total chick cars and they are just, well... a POS neon.lol. but im a honda guy and we all know how much you turbo guys hate us, so what do i know?
@supermaniac5 No they are not I will not let my wife drive my srt-4 because I am scared for her life. I have put down 300 whp realibly for the past 80k miles. Honda internals are weak I know because i have boosted them all d16, b series and k. pLEASE don't tell me k series are strong. They are all open deck design which means there is no reenforcement to the sleeves so even with forge pistons and rods sleeves will give out over time. Honda makes great engine and can be realible when sleeved
@MrSaadiquesingh what do you mean by sleeved? i have an all motor ls/vtec putting down 230hp , im in the middle of a rebuild and i want to do everything the right way...i took off the head last wednesday and found a chipped piston and a badly damaged sleeve... any suggestions on what to do about the sleeve?
@supermaniac5 Sounds like your motor was not properly tuned. For sleeving I would recommend Golden Eagle because I have used them before and had great results. If you are going boost I would say sleeve it get forged piston and rods and arp headstuds. You should have great realibility at high boost levels. Get it tuned on hondata or Neptune. If you are just doing a high compression ls-vtec build then a block guard should be fine along with headstuds,cometic head headgasket. Tuning is must!
And you're claiming with a tune an s3 kit will only make 350? 70more hp.....over practically stock............
blahkanig 2 weeks ago
Failchawi......you sir are an idiot. I made 280whp with dsp,spring mod, and intake. @22psi daily driven. And that's stock turbo.
blahkanig 2 weeks ago
@blahkanig Funny, ur vid says u got 250whp, and you forgot to mention your injectors.. Regardless, i've seen official dyno sheets from mopar, imona take their word for it. And either way, 280whp isn't the same as 400whp. I'm running around the same whp you have with a stock turbo too (2005 sti cobb stage 2), and i sure as hell can't go up to 400 whp with a stock clutch, injectors, and intercooler.
failchawi 2 weeks ago
@failchawi ...........Dude, the stock 04 05 injectors are "stage 1" Thats not an upgrade. If I were to have the 03 engine then I'd list it. And my dyno video wasn't my peak WHP. That was like mid way. I put down 255whp like mid pulls, I made 280whp but turned the boost back down because the car was leaning out. So we enriched it up as my car is a DD. Srt's aren't sti's We don't need a bigger intercooler til 350hp/bigger turbo. Clutch and injectors will be needed after 300hp.
blahkanig 1 week ago
of course the guy driving the neon is saying MY NIGGA 20 times
628RWHPstang 2 weeks ago
why cant sti drivers be this fun down here in sd
saltamontesfc 2 weeks ago
@11milsti..btw mr ricer boy..the zo6 debut is 2001....not 2004... and for somebody that supposidly has a bad ass car..ya don't have any videos of it. Is it Invisable??
brad2130 3 weeks ago
@11miksti..dude your so fucking immature. Ricers will be ricers. Btw put the same shit in the ws6 and the sti. Wont stand a chance even if their was a 7 yr old boy behind the wheel of it. Just saying. Stock for stock. The sti is just a tuner for people with no balls. Real men go for american muscle. At least the neon is american. Ill stick to my domestic shit. Nobody likes little punks with big mouths. Its a 4 cylinder..wow..I can throw a stage 2 cam and heads on my v6 Mustang and blow ur asslol
brad2130 3 weeks ago
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@brad2130 Fuk you! and your daddy! my old 07 sti stage2 pro tune ( Yimi Sport tuning) raped ws6's with mods! and on the freeway sucka!!!!! putito!
11miksti 3 weeks ago
people who hate on srt-4 neons! you can't act like they are gay( despite being a neon!) for their time 2002! stock would freakn rape on what? rsx-s? gts? or honda's with b16's, gsr's! shit stage two would hang with vette's! till 04 when the zo6 made its debut....................
11miksti 3 weeks ago
Eh Subaru barely had much on the srt-4 besides. You put the same dollar amount into the srt as the wrx the subaru would get its ass handed to it:) I hate ricer cars with a passion. My dads bone stock ws6 would eat the shit out of one. And with a simple tune it would eat the shit out of a full bolt on wrx.
brad2130 4 weeks ago
@brad2130 Fuck the ws6 and fuck your gay dad! my old 07 sti stage 2 pro-tuned RAPED on ws6's! with mods puto! on the freeway and what?!
11miksti 3 weeks ago
@brad2130 Fuk you! and your daddy! my old 07 sti stage2 pro tune ( Yimi Sport tuning) raped ws6's with mods! and on the freeway sucka!!!!! putito!
11miksti 3 weeks ago
people are really fucking stupid.... subaru is Japanese and Chrysler out of all the american cars have THE WORST quality statistically. get your facts straight.. fucking retards
aocobra97 1 month ago
Haha lmfao!!! \/\/
sexwrex 1 month ago
This is very illegal. The STI will never compare to the SRT-4 in quality. Italian cars like the STI always end up breaking down.
neat4lyfe1982 1 month ago
@neat4lyfe1982
Subaru's are Italian? Interesting.
DEMONINE25 1 month ago
@DEMONINE25 That's why their maintenance problems are on par with other Italian cars like Rover.
neat4lyfe1982 1 month ago
@neat4lyfe1982 italian eh..?
deddjay 1 month ago
@neat4lyfe1982 you should probably know something about cars before you comment on a car video. calling a subaru an italian car is probably one of the dumbest comments i've ever seen. bravo to you for making yourself look like an idiot..
whipplem32 1 month ago
New York?
MoreCheebaPleaze 1 month ago
wtf is all this shit talk about half of you wouldn't say shit to each others face who cares you ppl just like to ramble how about u spend your time on your car rather than on youtube
WarpedNut 2 months ago
i missed the part where he caught up
mistabent 2 months ago
this is why FWD is a POS!
blazinjohnnn 2 months ago
Second race was straight up awd power. Hopefully my parents will get me an Sti!
njdon89 2 months ago
@njdon89 Why not work, save up, and buy your own? You'll appreciate it more that way.
deddjay 1 month ago
@deddjay true true, either way ima end up getting a 6th gen or 8th gen civic for now lol
njdon89 1 month ago
LOL AWD Madnesss!
phil9633 3 months ago
@phil9633 This Is Flat Four!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GsGxInuyasha 2 months ago
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[athitec you didnt beat him by more!
flappy188 3 months ago
American made 4 cylinder cars are THE definition of rice. Id drive a Civic any day over one a those crappily built lumps of scrap metal you guys call a "fast car"
FeelinGipper 3 months ago
that was good my nigga that was fuckin good!
jjjjoshchristian4 3 months ago
lol at the end of the day its still a shitty plastic neon.
ugluk24 3 months ago
gotta give credit where it is due, and the SRT-4 deserve a chunk of it, again whether you like or dislike the brand, greetings from germany.
CHUUMPASS 3 months ago
some people are masters at ignoring reality, whether you like or dislike a brand for whatever reasons, it is all just personal perceptions, there is tons of vids on YT with the srt-4 calibers making examples out of other well established performers, these things are crazy performers i have seen one killing golf r32s and audi s en masse in germany, and some people don't k now any better than resorting to nationalistic insults "american cars are all garbage" and inept stuff like that,
CHUUMPASS 3 months ago
@CHUUMPASS: lol @ killing things like a Golf R32...it's a friggin luxo-barge hatch, not a raw sport compact. Don't compare a POS like a Dodge Caliber to the R32, everything about the R32 is leaps and bounds nicer, better looking, more comfortable and better built than a Caliber.
850wagonT5 3 months ago
@850wagonT5 whether you like it or not is your personal preference, but "POS" as you say is clearly not what i have witnessed with my own eyes! i wasn't talking about interiors or built quality which of course are a different story in the high-end R32, i was simply stating what i saw in a dodge caliber and what it has put on the road, which left an R32 piss poor looking in terms of performance and speed! i have no reason to defend dodge, as i am a german,
CHUUMPASS 3 months ago
@850wagonT5 plus an R32 is certainly NO where near any "luxurious features" and it isn't so comfortable either! i suggest you drive one, especially the mark 4 models have very cheap and unsupportive seats, and the interior quality may be still a little bit better than in a dodge caliber, but it is marginally at best!
CHUUMPASS 3 months ago
@CHUUMPASS: ORLY?
"The R32 is a luxury-infused pocket-rocket." Motor Trend
/roadtests/hatchbacks/112_0608_2008_volkswagen_r32/viewall.html
"Performance and LUXURY in a low-profile package." Car and Driver
/reviews/car/07q4/2008_volkswagen_r32-short_take_road_test
How about the Caliber???
"a low-quality cabin and underwhelming performance keep this model near the bottom of the small wagon list." Edmunds
/dodge/caliber/2008
...lol!
850wagonT5 3 months ago
@CHUUMPASS: Oh dear, it gets better!
On the 2011 Caliber, Motor Trend writes: "we’d suggest checking out almost any of the competition instead—they’re better to drive—or simply waiting until the Caliber’s replacement arrives within the next year or two if you have to have a Chrysler product." HAHAHAHA!!!!! In other words - PIECE OF SHITE CAR! =D
/news/car/10q3/2011_dodge_caliber_gets_revised_suspension_equipment_shuffled-car_news
850wagonT5 3 months ago
@CHUUMPASS:
"Speaking of not sitting quite right, that’s fundamental flaw number two: stepping into the SRT4 feels like commandeering a bite-sized tank, a sensation as well-suited to a sport-compact as diarrhea is to dating."
"If you’re stuffing the SRT4 into a rinky-dink hairpin, well, llllet’s get ready to fumble! Here, the nose-heavy SRT4 scrubs harder than Molly Maids."
HAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
thetruthaboutcars /2007/12/dodge-caliber-srt4-review/
Pretty much EVERYONE hates the Caliber.
850wagonT5 3 months ago
@850wagonT5 i don't care too much what links you come up with as that leads to nowhere anyway, as i`m sure that i could dig up links that has people "loving" the caliber as you`d say, so, anyway, you seem to miss the point, i just said that i saw a caliber kicking the crap out of cars you`d claim to be head and shoulders above it, and as a matter of fact that very same caliber is still running strong as the guy who owns it lives in my area,
CHUUMPASS 3 months ago
@850wagonT5 and i asked him about the car, as i know he has driven quite many performance cars, and he said the caliber`s downsides are easily to be forgotten over its upsides, and that pretty much said it all to me. it is a "hate it or love it" approach that does hold its own coming out of nowhere against quite a number of well established performers! with the aerodynamics of a brick and "commandeering feel of a tank" i`d still say it can move around remarkably well,to be seen in many vids onYT
CHUUMPASS 3 months ago
@CHUUMPASS That's cool man, you are clearly allowed to like what you want...but the Caliber SRT is cheap and tunable. That's about it. It's easy to make it quick, but it's nowhere near in the same league (build quality, interior comfort, interior noise, fit and finish, handling...remember that's not the same as road holding...etc) as something like the R32 or the Audis you compared it to. That's like comparing a Neon SRT to a 350Z. One is a much more "grown up" car than the other.
850wagonT5 3 months ago
@850wagonT5 of course a neon/caliber srt are not as grown up as, say a nissan 350z, as i said before, these are well established long standing models whereas the caliber pretty much was thrown in out of nowhere, but speaking of quality, interiors , i don't think that the nissan 350z for instance is a benchmark for that, as you can find a lot of cheap hard touch platics cramped all over it just like you would in the caliber. also we have to keep the price difference in mind
CHUUMPASS 3 months ago
@850wagonT5 also i have to say again, that i did not care too much about interior materials as i was watching the caliber srt eating up audi s3`s & 4s and golf gti`s and r32`s !
CHUUMPASS 3 months ago
tell that fuck tard with the camera to shut his fucking face...wow
TheJk9091 3 months ago
dodge is garbage.
driftster99 3 months ago
good race, srt lost.
choyleefutkid1 3 months ago
My lawnmower can do this.
Skimask619 3 months ago
I respect the srt-4's power... But all that needs to be said is... Its a dodge! LOL ... End of debate!
spd1765 3 months ago
lol... i cant believe people actually stick up for a neon lmao... The dodge neon is fucking queer lol.. subie all day
spd1765 3 months ago
I hate neons the end. I mean really id rather fucking walk than be seen in public with a neon.
Joshua4599 3 months ago
Yes SRT-4s were cheaper than a wrx but they also were severely underpowered when it came to brakes...suspension was terrible too.
Loscaldazar 3 months ago
I would not drive a baseline dodge neon or a Lancer or a regular WRX. But i would dirve are EVO, SRT-4 or a STI. I was all into the honda scene and thought the SRT-4 WAS CRAP until i drove one. I sold my b20 on boost and got the srt-4. Now i don't have to worry about the smell of burning oil because piston rings are going. The SRT-4 motor can take anything u throw at it all day everyday. 320 whp here I beat on her everyday all day and still fells like day one.
saadique 3 months ago
LOL... look at the pull from the STI... AWD BABY... Dodge sucks
spd1765 3 months ago
So were going to argue that a SRT is a cheap made car with lots of power. At the end of the day its still a Neon with a turbo. No more desirable to drive. Its wrong wheel drive.
killersushi99 3 months ago
@killersushi99 u guys are so fucking dumb the srt4 is 100% dif built then a reg neon the motor the gearbox the clutch the suspension the over all drive and feel of the car its all about fun u fucking homos out here talking shit just make it point less to even drive cars ur cocky pussys online untill it comes time to throw it down on the black top ur shit talk stops!
ilovegmh 3 months ago
You dont have to worry about your girlfriend running off with someone that drives a SRT. If she does well then she better of gone.
killersushi99 3 months ago
srt-4 stage 3 kits makes about 350whp...and with the stage 3 kit the srt-4 still maintains its factory warranty. NOW IF THE SRT-4 ENGINE COULD NOT WITHSTAND THAT KIND OF POWER SAFELY FOR EVERDAY DRIVING THEN DODGE WOULD NOT WARRANTY STAGE 3 KITS FOR THE SRT-4. I have seen 400 whp srt-4 being daily driven for years.
saadique 4 months ago 8
@saadique Srt-4 MOPAR stage 3 kits make 310 hp, and 350 hp on high octane. NOT WHP... 400whp srt4's daily driven for years is a load of crap, your motor wud kill itself, and ur clutch wud go bye bye on the first day. So for your own knowledge, 310 hp on pump gas = around 250-260 WHP ON STAGE 3 FOR SRT-4.
failchawi 2 weeks ago
@failchawi Point being, youre stating a stage 3 kit will produce less HP than a stock turbo kit....
blahkanig 1 week ago
@blahkanig No, point is you're throwing out ridiculous numbers when you don't have your facts straight, hence what you're saying is really out of whack. And there are sti's with close to 400 whp (480-550 on the flywheel) with stock intercoolers, much higher than srts... Just because it works doesn't mean its efficient and good for your car. I'm not saying the srt is a bad car in any way (arguably i could), all i'm saying is that you're over exaggerating gains vs aftermarket parts.
failchawi 5 days ago
@failchawi Over exaggerating?? Numbers are just that number. The FACT IS an SRT-4 with a stage 3 kit will produce 250whp?........Listen to that logic, even though dodge watered down advertised numbers on the srt-4, if it's a 05 srt it "has" "230hp". Your claim is saying a stage 3 kit, big turbo, tune, injectors, pcm = 20+hp......................Doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize you are wrong. /proven
blahkanig 4 days ago
@blahkanig K i can't believe i have to repeat myself, you seem to be lacking the concept of ''''WHEEL HP VS FLYWHEEL HP''''. 250-250 whp is around +80 hp, NOT 20 hp.. Mopar says the stage 3 kit offers 310 flywheel hp, hence +95 hp from 215, and +80 hp from 230 hp, 310hp = around 250 whp, doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
failchawi 2 days ago
@failchawi @failchawi ......................................STOCK SRT-4's DYNO AT 240+WHP all day! Do some research!! What you are saying is there is no point in buying an s3 kit for the car.
blahkanig 21 hours ago
AWD nuff said
TheCinderellaMann 4 months ago
@TheCinderellaMann agreed
Ryannnn29 3 months ago
The SRT4 lost, the Subie braked both times... Lol?
xKAMRONx 4 months ago
OMG that is awesome a neon taking on a Subaru sti. A fucking neon poor poor subie
04srt4champ 4 months ago
@davidpaulin so subie guys can only dream of 500hp on stock interanls? yeah they only dream of them because its not necessary for wrx to run 500hp just to beat an SRT4.. oh just to reassure your ignorance subarus are sooo much more safer than the srt4 subarus are not cheaply made because they have some of the highest scores in the national safety rating, second i dont know whos subaru you got into but they dont rattle and 3rd quit yapping about 500hp srt4s with stck internals theyre useless,
BoredomKills25 4 months ago 2
I've forgot more than you'll know about turbo cars, bro. Bring that srt to my town and you wont beat a thing.
CaliMellow84 4 months ago
@CaliMellow84 dude 500hp on a srt4 on stock internals? do you honestly buy that? ive seen an RB26 and 2JZ do 700+ with stock internals and those cars were no joke.
BoredomKills25 4 months ago
@BoredomKills25 i think an srt-4 has the potential to make about as much power as two retarded mules gettin it on! srt-4 owners just bash everyone else cuz they're pissed they can't get someone with a REAL tuner car to trade with them!
CaliMellow84 4 months ago
@BoredomKills25 Your ignorance is amazing. The SRT-4's A853 has roots in the 420a and 4g63/4g64. Two of the best performance four cyl designs of all time. They can easily handles 500+hp on the stock internals, and even then only the pistons become the weak link. You can trash talk all you want but fact remains that the SRT outperformed EVERY car in its class in handling/braking/acceleration and still out performed cars above its class in certain categories all while costing much less.
li7in6 4 months ago
@li7in6 they "outperform" because no one else offers a stock turbo car in it's class. I guarantee you if the civic si came factory turbo your poor little srt would get raped.
CaliMellow84 4 months ago
@CaliMellow84 You've just proven my point. A turbo honda with enough power to compete with the SRT-4 would have been much more expensive. Hell the RSX will LESS power, WORSE handling, and WORSE braking was MORE expensive. You think Honda would have pulled another 40+hp and 100+lb-ft out of their ass and somehow kept the price the same? No, the RSX cost more and had pitiful performance compared to the SRT-4, the civic Si of the time was even worse. Honda apologetics always make me lol.
li7in6 4 months ago
The A853 is NOT the 4G63 though. In fact, they're almost nothing alike when it comes to potential. 4G63 is a far superior engine. If the pistons become a weak link @ 500bhp, then the stock internals can't handle 500bhp. Pistons are considered internal engine parts. Also, SRT4s don't have the handling capability that STis have. If you put them on a real track like Tsukuba or Nurburgring, you'd see that immediately. It's a good car in its own right for much less but there is a reason for that.
DOHCEJ22E1 4 months ago
@DOHCEJ22E1 I said the A853 is capable of 500hp+ and only THEN do the pistons become the weak link. I never said it was superior to the 4g63 but fact remains that is based off the 4g63/4g64 and 420a design, this includes the high flowing cylinder head, sources of much of the 4g63/4420a's potential. The fact that the Sti handles better than an SRT-4 is moot. The Sti cost $10-15,000 more than the SRT-4 when new, yet the SRT-4 can give both the STi's and Evo's of the time a run for their money.
li7in6 4 months ago
DSM FTW!!! My talon on 22psi makes 439 to the wheels.
CaliMellow84 4 months ago
stop talkshit about srt4's .. they dominated SCCA over those jap cars like they did with the older neon too .. they are cheap to buy cheap to maintain and they have a much more potent engine than the subie .. yes they're fwd but there's a solution for drag racers called "slicks" and those awd guys asking for a 1st gear roll are just too afraid to do real rolling starts... i love subies but for twice the price of a srt the wise guy will know which one to pick
davidpaulin 4 months ago
that srt-4 might as well freebase that STi's exhaust fumes HAHA
MrGmiller16 4 months ago
cute how the sti guy waves when he barley takes him.
bkeinath 4 months ago
@bkeinath yup .. there's nothing to brag about when beating a 260-275whp car by a few inches .. and even then .. that lil srt just need a turbo upgrade to say any STi goodbye .. they srt engine has just so much more potential
davidpaulin 4 months ago
@davidpaulin and when you do get that "turbo upgrade" I hope the subie has his windows up cuz the sound of that motor coming apart is gonna be loud as hell
CaliMellow84 4 months ago
@CaliMellow84 hahaha you're kidding right ... ive seen completely stock srt blocks making over 500whp while subie guys can only dream of that ..
davidpaulin 4 months ago
@CaliMellow84 there's at least 2 locals in the 500whp's here and a few in the 400's.. should learn a bit before talking bro .. that only thing srt guys can rave about the subie is the AWD system .. other than that they're comparable car quality wise .. the STi is just an impreza after all .. it still had sheap interior .. noisy with doors made of paper and rattles everywhere .. we love these cars for what they can make on a track not for their actual quality because they're cheaply built
davidpaulin 4 months ago
1)The STi is NOT just an Impreza. It's as different from an Impreza as night & day. Everything on an Impreza WRX STi is STi spec.
2)My Subaru may not have too many creature comforts but it's definitely not "cheaply made". An STi isn't as cheaply made as an SRT4 either.
DOHCEJ22E1 4 months ago
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1)The STi is NOT just an Impreza. It's as different from an Impreza as night & day. Everything on an Impreza WRX STi is STi spec.
2)My Subaru may not have too many creature comforts but it's definitely not "cheaply made". An STi isn't as cheaply made as an SRT4 either.
DOHCEJ22E1 4 months ago
1)Sorry but in terms of REAL potential (not just tuning but building), the EJ series edges out ANY Chrysler 4 cylinder of the present.
2)Who the HELL does "rolling starts"? What are we, still in high school? I'd love to see the day that a Neon could keep up with my Subaru in a corner.
3)SRT4s are nice, no doubt. But don't give them too much glory. You still need TONS of work to get them to handle properly.
3)STis have more handling capability than an SRT4. It just takes more skill to reach it.
DOHCEJ22E1 4 months ago
@DOHCEJ22E1 1) The closest competition for the SRT-4 was the more expensive WRX. The SRT-4's A853 is a much more stout engine than the EJ20 of the time (open deck, weaker internals)
2) Most opportunistic races are rolling starts in the real world. FWD is far from ideal but also take into account the fragility of the WRX's 5 speed. Also note the SRT-4 WAY out-handled, out-braked and out-accelerated the WRX for less money with more power potential.
3) Moot point, the STI was MUCH more expensive.
li7in6 4 months ago
1)The A853 is a 2.4L which would mean that it's closer to the 257 (STi 2.5L) in rivalry.
2)Now compare the SRT4's 5 speed to the STi's 6 speed, in which it would have the advantage over due to having taller gears despite not being quite as stout (SRT4 transmissions are STRONG for what they are though.)
3)10K isn't MUCH more expensive but it does leave room for tuning/modification. LOTS of it. SRT4 wins in that category by far.
4)SRT4s were underrated in power, putting out 230WHP factory. Damn.
DOHCEJ22E1 4 months ago
@DOHCEJ22E1 1) The fact that its engine is most comparable to that of a car that is 50%+ its price point(STi) is a testament to the value of the SRT-4.
2) Comparing transmissions (esp. awd to fwd) is shaky at best, obviously the scoob 6 speed is the superior trans, but again its in a more expensive car. For a transversely mounted fwd gearbox the SRT-4's is about as good as it gets in terms of durability/power holding (however it is lacking in feel/slop, it is out of a transit van after all).
li7in6 4 months ago
@DOHCEJ22E1 3) $10,000 was ~50% of the cost of the SRT-4. not an insubstantial amount and often overlooked when people compare a cars that cost 50-75% more. And even then the comparisons aren't entirely unfavorable. The SRT-4 was so good it was pointless to compare to cars in its class.
4) SRT did a number on the PT's engine. 230whp and 250+ft-lbs. Almost unheard of in its bracket(cobalt SS was closest) until its spiritual successor the Mazdaspeed3. Even then the MS3 was/is more expensive.
li7in6 4 months ago
@DOHCEJ22E1 u again see everyone here is proving to you ur stupid subie is fucking junk man sorry wen neon first came out they out performed subie in the scca and still do even to this day pull ur head out of ur piece of shit cars ass!
ilovegmh 3 months ago
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DOHCEJ22E1 3 months ago
Hold the fuck up.
How is Subaru junk when Crawford Performance tuned one to 700bhp on stock internals?
Shut the fuck up.
Your Neon ain't gonna' kill a Spec C, RA, or 22B so please stop.
It's also NOT going to take down any GC STi, a model AHEAD of your Neon's time!
Even a Legacy Twin Turbo RS would put it on the SRT4.
I respect the SRT4 Neon because of it's performance & potential but you have to understand that for the price, you're not getting AWD with legal rally performance in a Neon.
DOHCEJ22E1 3 months ago
@ilovegmh do you not know that the 2011 STI is the worlds fastest production sedan? beating the CTS-V and Porsche Panamera around the nurburgring. I don't care if your piece of shit neon can win by a hair in a drag race, it can't touch an STI in a real race. The 2011 STI holds the track record for production sedans on the nurburgring, what does your dodge do?
FadedRX8 3 months ago
@FadedRX8 You're comparing a brand new 2011 STI to a car that hasn't been in production for 6 years? You can hate on the Dodge all you want but for it's time and for the price the SRT-4 was a great car. I don't know why people have to be so biased. I love STI's but I own an SRT-4 and I would never compare the two because they care completely different classes of cars. And yes the STI is a much better car I've driven one and for the extra 15k I would expect it to be a better car.
BT3985 3 months ago 7
@FadedRX8 Actually, the 2012 BMW M5 is the fastest production sedan to do the Nurburgring lap. The STI that was tested was a prototype, with alot of non-optional parts. Still pretty fast, just sayin. I love all fast cars, fwd, rwd, awd, doesn't matter to me.
AceDeuce221981 3 months ago
1:10 Annotations. Madnesss? THIS. IS. SUBARU!
doctoroctagonaBLARGH 4 months ago
damn that sti looks mad nice
nuocmat 4 months ago
my nigga you were pulling on him hard but not enough my nigga. Good run my nigga
sic3kgt 4 months ago
yo my nigga my nigga lol
240JESUS69 4 months ago
only thing america shouldn't be proud of is their modern cars
WarpedNut 4 months ago
@WarpedNut Amen to that. Slobalts and SloparT-4s suck. Its all about the good old Iron Clad American cars. In terms of modern day succes, it goes to Japanese cars. My friends favorite quite "Call me a ricer, I dont care cuz my Evo will dust you anywhere." Kinda chessy, but I laughed when he said it. Cheers all.
nsrailfann4life91 4 months ago
what's an srt-4? bahahaha!
bioha2ar3 4 months ago
@bioha2ar3 its a turbo neon hahaha
CWLTT 4 months ago
@bioha2ar3 i know i was being sarcastic! lol
bioha2ar3 4 months ago
Subaru all the way
MrSuperSubaru 4 months ago
I don't care if a SRT-4 can go 200mph, it's a cheap, poorly manufactured American.
JonesNobodyJones 4 months ago 23
Srts blow
ssslither123 5 months ago
F.D.R.
casperwrx21 5 months ago
sti has way better traction and he was in a good gear right when the boost kicked in
sl0wm03 5 months ago
The sti was playing with him.
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cb7pwn 5 months ago
HOLY SHIT I LIVE AROUND THERE
deathtoll09 5 months ago
@deathtoll09 that's not something you should like to advertise. STI ftw
bobbybigwheels22 5 months ago
@bobbybigwheels22 whys that
deathtoll09 5 months ago
yeah AWD topend isn't that good
MaddDogg81 5 months ago
all 25 fucking dislikes are cuz of the passenger saying "ma nigga" over n over
YuLost2X 5 months ago
So the winner is.... SUBARU!!!!!!
352HOMEBOY 5 months ago
Don't know I've yet to cross a srt-4 with my stage 2.
Also, I'm no rally expert but i can't see how neon been in the rally game longer than subaru.....
thrice00 5 months ago
I dont know about you guys but my stage 2 STI pulls srt-4s like 20 car lengths in the quarter mile. 12.20 s @ 105mph
TheStoneunturned 5 months ago
@TheStoneunturned The quarter mile proves nothing, your AWD, he's FWD. Take away the launch factor and you would be lucky to be 2 car lenghts on. I don't know what your mods are but I destroy STIs from a roll even though they have a significant power advantage. IMO, I'm not convinced that they deliver the power well. Then again it's all about preference, if you want to be saved by the 1/4 mile, the STI is alright but if you don't like people passing you on the highway, do not buy one.
Turbalt 5 months ago
@Turbalt The 2004-2006 sti's have short gearing that isn't really good for straight line performance. Also, even fully built with the best parts in existance, the powerband for the 2.5 liter engine isn't really good for straight races. You'll find that the 2.0L WRXs are much faster in a straight line, not only because of the longer gears of the 5 speed, but because the powerband of the 2 liter is better for straight races.
thumpetto007 5 months ago
for it's money the srt4 is a good car)
Ouwtlawzzz 5 months ago
how does it feel to be slower than a "toy"?? STis arent slow by any means...the SRT4 is faster im saying 04 SRT4 Vs. 04 STI... stop comparinga 04 SRT4 to a fucking 2011 subi. yes subaus are nice cas and they do look good......yes..but do some reseach on the neon r/t and you will see that the neon has been in the rally game longer than the WRX and the STI..all that im ssaying is that the SRT4 is faster in a straight line..exactly what its ment for.
brettsvchs 5 months ago
nice example of a wrx im running a V7 STi with forged PBMS block and GT3071R as a track car and currently building a 2JZ supra for street and strip. haven't had much experience racing anything american here in New Zealand but love old School american muscle.
soup2jzGTE 6 months ago
yea you slowbaru guys dont have shit.... SRT4 makes more WHEEL horsepower and more torque...not to mention WAY lighter so...the facts are thee the SRT has a big advantage on the power to weight ratio.....i have yet to see even a remotley intelligent response from bitch ass subaru owners...you guys make me laugh oh but my shit its tuned bro dont fuck with this....HAHAHAHAHA subarus are nice cars but its too bad they arent on SRT4 NEON level.. THE TRUTH HURTS CUZ YOUR STILL MAKING PAYMENTS HAHAHA
brettsvchs 6 months ago
@brettsvchs yea but at least i can drive in the snow
ibbong420 6 months ago
@brettsvchs Subaru= WORLD CHAMPION rally car with trophies stacked higher than your "SRT NEON level". but hey, have fun with your toy bro.
imaNinjazz 6 months ago
@imaNinjazz What is a Srt Neon level? Im guessing good since thet beat all of the subarus from stock to stock. And your also comparing a Fwd car to a awd car. No shit the srt-4 isn't going to be the "rally champion'.
1hitkillforu 5 months ago
@brettsvchs How are you better than slowbaru when your only insulting. Srt-4 Are fast cars. Subaru Have a better look, better interior and AWD. Totally different cars. Can't see how you can say STI are slow cars.
thrice00 5 months ago
@brettsvchs
dont have to say much when an srt-4 is FWD. doesnt matter how much horsepower you have.
berra96 5 months ago
@brettsvchs doesn't matter how much power you make on the skittle, its front wheel drive and you can't put it down. Trust me, no one wants to be on "srt" level, because its a pretty low one lol. SRT4 haven't done anything to prove but that a championship car or a contender in any racing environment . What they did is made a car thats cheap and anyone can afford, and that's it.
FYI I've owned an srt4 and sold it when I realized a regular srt4 driver will race a minivan lol!! srt=FAIL
YuLost2X 5 months ago
@YuLost2X You sir are an idiot. U were racing min vans huh? Maybe it was the driver, not the car.
1hitkillforu 5 months ago
@1hitkillforu if you read clearly i said people with srt4 and that being the reason why i sold it!! dumbass
YuLost2X 5 months ago
@YuLost2X Really im a dumb ass. U know nothing About cars. And ur a dumb fuck. Flame on bitch.
1hitkillforu 5 months ago
@1hitkillforu you just feel saulty lol!Not my fault you can't read what I previously posted. You also must be a fortune teller to know what I do or don't know about cars by observing...... nothing!!!You should go invent something how intelligent you are buddy
YuLost2X 5 months ago
@YuLost2X dude the srt4 dominated the scca, where the awd dsm's used to be king. dont tell him that shit
TheMiles302 5 months ago
@mobilesuitderka stop wasting your time on ignorant fucking stereotypical slowbaru douche bags.. they get SHIT on repeatedly by a SRT4 but there ego is so wack they fucking get on youtube and lie about it..and to clarify it is 25% loss in the drivetrain from your SLOW, OVERWEIGHT, OVERPRICED, piece of shit (AKA ALL SUBARUS) you slowbaru guys think your shit is faster no matter what.. but when i ruthlessly fuck with ALL STIs they always make the convienent right turn to duck my SRT4. GET RAPED
brettsvchs 6 months ago
CSRT4 IS BETTER
limited240 6 months ago
@srt4slow there is no arguing with a fool, so im not going to with you. go on NASIOC for some schooling so you can re learn your "knowledge"
mobilesuitderka 6 months ago
@srt4slow you must be slow. its definitely 25% homie.
mobilesuitderka 6 months ago
@srt4slow lets go to school then slapdick. sti's are 300hp STOCK to the flywheel. there is a loss from the hp in the motor to the drivetrain to the wheels. the loss is about 25%. so youre looking at around 227awhp. if youre gonna talk shit "go learn something" first. :) PS VF39 is a high spool low top end turbo, it will NEVER EVER go "well over 350awhp" i hope you dont own a subaru because you dont know shit about them.
mobilesuitderka 6 months ago
@mobilesuitderka He said 350hp not 350awhp. A VF39 will make 350hp on an STi stage II or around 280awhp. I had one, I also owned a vf powered 04 WRX made 300hp on the 2.0.
Lycanthrobby 4 months ago
@Lycanthrobby exactly. my 05 sti made 290 to the wheels on a vf39 at 22lbs.
mobilesuitderka 4 months ago
Anyone else wondering why you can't hear the srt-4's exhaust at all?? I have a stage 2 catless 3......it drones....yet this sounds quieter than stock? hmm
karnag30kc 6 months ago
first of all thats not an 04' sti, all the other sti's are overrated pieces of crap, even the 22b could of taken the srt 4
Brain704 6 months ago
SRT-4 === POOR MAN CANT AFFOR A GOOD QUALITY CAR
hopcup1 6 months ago 28
@hopcup1 he is smart bang for your buck.
MileHighScreamer 5 months ago
@hopcup1 it is a good quality car just because its not awd doesnt mean shit.
gavenxtremes26 5 months ago
@hopcup1 Whats that say of the STi then? The SRT kept up with a car that costs 10-15k more. lol.
TheMacMan35 5 months ago
@hopcup1 your a moron
875109725710 5 months ago
ahaha if it was AWD? you know sti's and wrx's lose 18% of power through the drivetrain because they disperse their power through three transfer cases right?. if srt was AWD it would still be slower, just sayin. lol. track for track car wrx would eat it up. Nice vid tho, the SRT has balls that's for sure. top end surprised me..
X1qu10n3r 6 months ago
Great race you guys, they are both cool cars. The STI is a little more spendy and has some nicer features, but the SRT is a great car that was built for around 25k really can't beat the price.
atomicdecent 6 months ago
those numbers on the STi are false. Says nothing on the turbo, because if its a stock turbo it's impossible to make 340hp. that car is making no more than 300. Guaranteed especially not at 19.5lbs
mobilesuitderka 6 months ago
Nigga that was a nice street race my nigga..... nigga
jedwards09elmira 6 months ago
Srt4 still did decent for racing another car thats not in its class or price range, the sti is much more expensive and AWD and only had a car length in the first race.
SRT10RAMLVR 6 months ago
cuaght up, sti put on brakes for a sec
Marty1568 6 months ago
respect to the sr t but they are still ugly to me. not tryin to hate.
bboychoc 6 months ago
awd does sure kick ass if u got the power and grip for it! p.s. why do STI's sound so sweet kind of a mix between import & muscle,hmmmm.....the perfect balance?
951prerunner 6 months ago
the only reason he caught up was cause the STi steped on the breaks LOL
eddy9419 7 months ago
he waved like :bye bitch"..."oh shit he caught up" lol
squantotheboywonder 7 months ago
I am a honda guy but I never forget when I bought the srt-4 I took it to a place call RAGE TEK..they have been building and tuning the srt-4 since they came out in 03. The guy that works there he is also the owner (great guy) he said I made a good choice buying the srt because their blocks can take 500 hp. I was like DAMN!
MrSaadiquesingh 7 months ago
i have have nothing against honda ..i have b20 on boost myself along with the srt. I have seen fully built and sleeved b series put down 800 whp not to mention the k24 block with the type s head conbination but here I am talkin about stock honda motors and stock srt-4 motor. Which one is stronger? the srt-4 motor is definately a lot stronger. The srt-4 motor comes with forge connecting rods and eutectic pistons from the factory.
MrSaadiquesingh 7 months ago
People who talk shit about the srt are whose who have no knowledge about the car or got spanked by one. WHEN U SEE REPUTABLE COMPANY SUCH A MOPAR SELLING STAGE 3 KITS FOR THE SRT-4 THAT PUTS DOWN 360 WHP JUST BY BLOTING IT ON THE CAR WHAT DOES THAT TELL EVERYONE ABOUT THE SRT-4 ENGINES??
MrSaadiquesingh 7 months ago
Gotta love people racing and not just bashing on each other. And the fact that the STi was using its hazard lights, lol. Might be street racing, but at least he was being careful in that sense.
Greezy47 7 months ago
The srt-4 is always being compared to evos and sti and it is not in their class. It is in the class of civic si, rsx type s, sentra ser etc...but why isn't any of these car comprared to evos and sti. The answer is simple, they are no where near the performance of evos and sti. The SRT-4 BLOWS EVERY CAR WITHIN ITS PRICE RANGE OUT OF THE WATER AND IS BEING COMPARED TO CARS TWICE ITS PRICE.
saadique 7 months ago
@saadique i will admit srt4's are quick and have pretty good reviews, but they are total chick cars and they are just, well... a POS neon.lol. but im a honda guy and we all know how much you turbo guys hate us, so what do i know?
supermaniac5 7 months ago
@supermaniac5 No they are not I will not let my wife drive my srt-4 because I am scared for her life. I have put down 300 whp realibly for the past 80k miles. Honda internals are weak I know because i have boosted them all d16, b series and k. pLEASE don't tell me k series are strong. They are all open deck design which means there is no reenforcement to the sleeves so even with forge pistons and rods sleeves will give out over time. Honda makes great engine and can be realible when sleeved
MrSaadiquesingh 7 months ago
@MrSaadiquesingh what do you mean by sleeved? i have an all motor ls/vtec putting down 230hp , im in the middle of a rebuild and i want to do everything the right way...i took off the head last wednesday and found a chipped piston and a badly damaged sleeve... any suggestions on what to do about the sleeve?
supermaniac5 7 months ago
@supermaniac5 Sounds like your motor was not properly tuned. For sleeving I would recommend Golden Eagle because I have used them before and had great results. If you are going boost I would say sleeve it get forged piston and rods and arp headstuds. You should have great realibility at high boost levels. Get it tuned on hondata or Neptune. If you are just doing a high compression ls-vtec build then a block guard should be fine along with headstuds,cometic head headgasket. Tuning is must!
MrSaadiquesingh 7 months ago