Watching this movie makes me wish today's society were as regal as this. Today we bump and grind and then you barely touched and looked regal and desirable. Oh, how I wish I could travel back in time...
I totally didn't realize until I took British Lit. in college that the paper she was reading towards the end of this part was from the series of letters Jane Austen wrote that made fun of ridiculous women in her time. :D
Fanny's stories, I just realised, are from Austen's Juvenilia... heh 'run mad as often as you choose but do not faint' coming from one of the short stories that is believed to be the basis for sense and sensibility.
I bet Jane Austen's looking down from heaven, and laughing at how all of her books have been made into movies... and multiple times, at that. :-] Mansfield park three times, Northanger Abbey twice, Sense and Sensibility four times, Emma twice, Persuasion three times, and last but not least Pride and Prejudice was put to film six separate times. I don't think any other author can compare to her. That's why she'll always be my favorite. :-] Granted, there's always Shakespeare.
@LoserJinxedAndJaded amen to that!...though on shakespeare's part not much since i hate how most of this stories ends...which was tragedy!...i know life isnt all happy endings but its nice to still have hope that even though ur currently crushed like a bug someone out there is happy, good for them! and someday i will be happy again!... :)
@kashmir0203340 The one movie I saw him (besides Mansfield Park) was 'Goal! Let the dream begin". His name is Alessandro Nivola (Mr Crawford) if you google him it should bring up his list of movies on imdb.
The 1999 version is SO MUCH BETTER. I absolutely adored the actors, and I just enjoyed it much more overall. Especially the ending. Johnny Lee Miller's acting was magnificent during Edmund's confession.
I'm prejudiced. I ONLY date nerds. They're the only ones I can feel anything for. The "popular guy" is a turnoff. Overexposure isn't very flattering. I like my men "virtuous", too. But of course, this is the post-modern feminist era & in I'm a position to demand virtue & intelligence and many, many, many other things that Austen women could not so.... :-)
i'm not bragging, having a stalker is not something to be proud of
anyway, there are MUCH worse things he could've done
besides, it's not like he trailed after her. he probably just remembers what room she sleeps in. guests often do sleepover for several days during those times
Wonder why they can't respect the period's style and dance... Still it's better than the version with Billie Piper who is even more joyful and stupid and far away from the book's character. At least here we dont have that ridiculous pick nick, but still it's quite disappointing that they couldn't have respected the book more.
@Jillian Well, Fanny is really NOT a heroine to appeal to the ages. Not that Austen really intended her to be. Her story is supposed to be a dark and sad one... not exactly what the writers of the uber fluffy romance genre of today aim for. Fanny is unfortunate in that modern writers want to cram and shove her to fit the mold of other Austen heroines, like Elizabeth
I love it when she says that she complimented his dancing, and to 'keep his wig on' ... Jane's characters in all her books are so straightforward. If someone is a drunk, or a fop, or an idiot, it's obvious. And all her leading ladies and their strength, intelligence, humility, inner (as well as outer) beauty ... I love that they all have minds and a thirst for something better. Jane put so much of herself into each of those characters ...
I don't care if it is inaccurate, the dance scene is marvelous! I loved it! Also, that guy who coyly looked at Fanny at 0:44 was really cute. Does anyone know who he is so that I may stalk... er... look at pictures of him?
Can anyone tell me what it is the Fanny says after she puts out the candle? I can catch most of it but the first few words of the first sentence I miss everytime I replay it.
Thats not a full waltz. there are English dances that require being very close. If you look at the one dance in the 2009 version of "Emma" Emma and Mr Knightly are dancing VERY close to one another. :D
@Ivinnguaq I agree with you. For nothing in the world I can resist to Alessandro Nivola's eyes. I just can't . So it is impossible for me to see him as an ass. the 2007 version is better because he is uglier there.
I won't argue that the dance scene wasn't done well. It was beautiful, but completely inaccurate. Dancing in the closed position as they were shown doing would have never been allowed by someone as conservative as Sir Thomas. The waltz was introduced in England just after the Napoleonic Wars and was only danced in the most stylish halls in London. It wasn't widely accepted until much later and even then it still received criticism since it required a man and woman to embrace.
@WildGiggleGirl well put though i could not keep up with so many facts but i must say you do know what you're talking about and i pretty much forgot what i was going to say first!!
@WildGiggleGirl You are absolutely correct, the music and dancing is totally wrong for the period, Why they did not show a dance scene of the period, I cannot understand.
@gilyat They may have wanted it to look different than all of the other dances in the other movies (Pride and Prejudice, Persuasion, and Emma), but it just looks kind of silly if you know anything at all about the period. Even Lord "Depravity and Sin" Byron was offended by the waltz!
Alas, that is the view of only a minority of men. Just as most girls don't go for nerdy guys, most guys don't go for nerdy girls. Personally, I love nerd girls - there's just so much more to them.
A nerd you may be, Ms. Wild, but a correct one all the same haha! Let us nerds unite against this heinous scandal which is the waltz! ;-]
They seem to do this in almost every Austen film, not keeping in mind that the waltz was hardly even beginning to enter into acceptable dance practice when Ms. Jane died, certainly not when the books were being written!
Ah well, we shall have to content ourselves with sitting on the couch alone yelling at the screen! :)
@WildGiggleGirl Hehe, yes! I'm always reading in historic romance novels how scandalous the waltz is! It's often a very erotic moment for the book, too! Lol.
I dont see why ppl dislike the idea of changing characters, that occurs each time a novel is changed into a film. It is always an interpretation. We are all just too used to the fine screenwriting of the bbc versions that seem to use to be very closely adapted. Even that is an interpretation based on our time's preferences and point of view.
Im really enjoying this so much, thank you mansfieldparkmovie! Im also enjoying the discussions in the comments. Saturday- the washings out and house is done, movie to watch BLISS!
Truly, the dance scene was well done... Dances were at that time the only way of socialising and indeed, in such a movie, its a main element.I loved the camera angles and how it pinpointed the movements of the hands and the touches..
She's been drinking quite a bit, presumably to bear up more easily having the limelight. You see it in the uncharacteristic flirtatious comment and the way she closes her eyes and throws her head back while spinning. Tipsy! The dance scene was very well done...all the sweet riangulation!
i feel like this adaptation has the most "modern" feel to it: there isn't as much (or as strict) social formality as there is in other austen adaptations.
i really disagree with the extent to which they've changed fanny's character. austen's heroines are what make her novels what they are; in a movie adaptation, it's fine to make subtle plot changes, but something just feels wrong about altering a character as much as was done for this film.
Yeah, I love some of the camera angles and storytelling elements, but monkeying with the customs and characters to make it more appealing to modern audiences ruins it. They would have done better to adapt it entirely to modern times and give it a different title if they wanted to go this route.
It's bad to change the character slightly, in oder to appeal to modern audience. But this is quite a radical revision, so it's like a different novel commenting on Jane Auten's novel. Well, the director has a reputation for rebellions in cinema, so it's a logical step in context of her career.
@JerNela the album is available on Amazon I believe, but the sheet music? No idea. Perhaps you'd have to make contact with the composer? Hope you are able to find it.
"She does not think evil but she speaks it" As a soon to be clergyman, Edmund should know about what the Bible says concerning the dangers of speaking evil. Silly man is blinded by his infatuation
ughhh i want so much to like this movie because it's Austen, but there are so many strange kinks that frustrate me. whatever, it has its moments i guess...
I don't think that's what the movie is conveying. Fanny is witty and smart, and when she talks to Mary about her harp she says "it depends on the music" so clearly she has an appreciation for it. I think it's just trying to show that there's a fine line between being witty and rude, and Mary's love of her harp inconvenienced people, again showing how people can be rude when they think they're just having fun.
It's a great film about a great period of history but in this extract of the film I think that the fact that the ladies don't wear gloves is not right; from what I know of that period they should have worn gloves. But I'm not an expert of the etiquette of that time.
This Fanny Price is terrible. She is nothing like the character in the book. She should have been portrayed the way Jane Austen meant for her to be. I prefer the story in in this movie because it sticks to the book more, but overall, the 2007 movie is better. Billie Piper is a better Fancy.
really?? cause i completely disagree...the Fanny in the book is reserved and shy and quiet and takes a lot of abuse without really defending herself...i though billie piper was waaayyy too confident and assertive
I agree with you, I did not like the Billie Piper as Fanny at all. Very mismatched, & although this one strays somewhat from the book, I still prefer her as Fanny.
The Fanny Price in this movie is more satisfying than the one in the book, who let everyone walk all over her and didn't mind. However, since the movie got so many other details wrong, I think the book wins.
No, you're right. At first it's just because he's bored and wants another conquest, but then he genuinely does fall in love with her (at least in the book - can't answer for this adaptation; it's totally different so far).
Hmm. Okay, that really helped. I read a bit of the synopsis of the novel and it said what you said, but I couldn't see it in the movie. Is this movie supposed to be significantly different from the novel?
Yeah, it's very different - it's based on Jane Austen's letters as well.
Sir Thomas does not have an evil slave-trading double-life. Tom Bertram drinks and gambles because he's irresponsible, not because he's trying to repress traumatic memories - and he doesn't hate his father.
Fanny is painfully shy and never really resents being bossed around by everyone. Edmund thinks of Fanny as a sister until the very end, whereas here he seems to like her.
But slavery is mentioned in the book, I'm assuming, or else they wouldn't of added it in the movie. Ohh, so Tom does like his father. Throughout the whole movie I thought he despised him. So Fanny is more reserved in the novel than she is in the movie? Wow, everything is so different. Why would the director portray the novel like that?
If slavery was ever mentioned, it was only very briefly, in passing. In the movie, Tom does despise his father - but not in the book. Fanny is not only more reserved, she's more shy, more passive, and lets people walk all over her. Have no idea why it's so different, but this is not Mansfield Park - haven't seen a really good adaptation of this yet, but the 2007 version, IMO best captures the essence of the novel out of the available adaptations, even if it misses out a few things.
Watching this movie makes me wish today's society were as regal as this. Today we bump and grind and then you barely touched and looked regal and desirable. Oh, how I wish I could travel back in time...
roxygirl0013 3 weeks ago 3
@roxygirl0013 The dancing in this movie is much more physical touch than they would have really had back in the day!
grumblebunz 1 day ago
Yeah, 3:33 isn't creepy at all or anything.
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LOL @ mysweetsmile23... Maybe because they're in the country? Or, perhaps because this is an experimental movie...
jojo7982 1 month ago
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jojo7982 1 month ago
someone put a video up so we can learn that dance
theKayEA 1 month ago
Now that is what I call fun, yet beautiful dancing..
GalOnHunt 1 month ago
Why aren't the women wearing gloves?? SCANDALOUS!
mysweetsmile23 2 months ago 12
that was hot, why can't our stupid school dancing be like that?
gaaraisthabomb 3 months ago 6
awww fanny is soo pretty
dolphinrider22 3 months ago
I totally didn't realize until I took British Lit. in college that the paper she was reading towards the end of this part was from the series of letters Jane Austen wrote that made fun of ridiculous women in her time. :D
nicolecolvett 4 months ago
The actress who plays Fanny is so beautiful.
sierracademianut 4 months ago
5 people didn't get tipsy at a Jane Austen ball
seagirl1481 5 months ago 2
lol: Buy "Keep Your Wig On" on iTunes
Artist: Lesley Barber
Good idea.
pantsbackwards 6 months ago 3
LMFAO, she is SO tipsy here! :D
MountainSleeper 6 months ago
No getting drunk and staggering at the ball...all those candles... its a fire hazard! Ha ha ha!
simenaona 6 months ago 2
Jane Austen is definitely one of my favorite authors.
williamson656 6 months ago 5
3:33 he needed a ax XD
allycat794 7 months ago 2
LMAO "keep your wig on", I cannot believe she said that O.0
mrstilney 8 months ago 8
i love that little "trying not to appear tipsy" walk that she does out of the ballroom
tangentNZ 8 months ago 5
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"There are as many forms of love, as there are moments in time"
kazbaby212 10 months ago
Fanny's stories, I just realised, are from Austen's Juvenilia... heh 'run mad as often as you choose but do not faint' coming from one of the short stories that is believed to be the basis for sense and sensibility.
INSTANTfanStaR 10 months ago 2
I bet Jane Austen's looking down from heaven, and laughing at how all of her books have been made into movies... and multiple times, at that. :-] Mansfield park three times, Northanger Abbey twice, Sense and Sensibility four times, Emma twice, Persuasion three times, and last but not least Pride and Prejudice was put to film six separate times. I don't think any other author can compare to her. That's why she'll always be my favorite. :-] Granted, there's always Shakespeare.
LoserJinxedAndJaded 10 months ago 65
@LoserJinxedAndJaded amen to that!...though on shakespeare's part not much since i hate how most of this stories ends...which was tragedy!...i know life isnt all happy endings but its nice to still have hope that even though ur currently crushed like a bug someone out there is happy, good for them! and someday i will be happy again!... :)
katieroxxursoxx 9 months ago
@katieroxxursoxx
True, but Midnight Summer's Dream, TheTempest, Much Ado About Nothing, and Twelfth Night all had happy endings. :)
mahasalimable 6 months ago
what`s is song??
zodiacomariano 11 months ago
Wouldn't it have been incredibly poor manners to leave your own ball, without thanking guests for their coming?
colemyst 11 months ago 3
i think it was nicely done
NytewolfAU2k7 11 months ago
the part where fanny leaves the ball and mr. crawford is watching her and then edmund turns to look at her as well as she leaves...great shot :)
meshellie 11 months ago 8
the "bad" guy, mister crawford, in what other movies is he? I feel like I know him, but I don't know how...
kashmir0203340 11 months ago
@kashmir0203340 The one movie I saw him (besides Mansfield Park) was 'Goal! Let the dream begin". His name is Alessandro Nivola (Mr Crawford) if you google him it should bring up his list of movies on imdb.
scotland5 11 months ago
"I love you more than words can say. I demand a first dance at the ball tomorrow"
hahahaha :)
Noosp 1 year ago 6
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" what a compliment.. the heavens rejoice, she complimented me" - me crawford.
" I complimented your dancing mr.crawford, Keep Your Wig On. - Fanny
Ha! Love it when she says this!! :)
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" what a compliment.. the heavens rejoice, she complimented me" - me crawford.
" I complimented your dancing mr.crawford, Keep Your Wig On. - Fanny
Ha! Love it when she says this!! :)
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" what a compliment.. the heavens rejoice, she complimented me" - me crawford.
" I complimented your dancing mr.crawford, Keep Your Wig On. - Fanny
Ha! Love it when she says this!! :)
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"the heavens rejoice.. she complimented me"- mr. crawford "
"I complimented your dancing mr. crawford .. keep you wig on".- Fanny
Lol ! love it when she says this!!!
OrganicLover87 1 year ago
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OrganicLover87 1 year ago
They didn't have the necklace bit here. :(
clpearson991 1 year ago
did he tell her he loves her? awww that's sweet lol
Jesscritic 1 year ago
i love tipsy fanny! 'yes well tonight i agree with everyone!' lol
Pembo362 1 year ago 3
1:32 - 3:00. One of my favorite scenes in the whole movie..
broadwaystar92 1 year ago
"There are as many forms of love as there are moments in time."
broadwaystar92 1 year ago
This movie is so inaccurate and rushed but I love Edmund and Fanny!
fire12321 1 year ago
The 1999 version is SO MUCH BETTER. I absolutely adored the actors, and I just enjoyed it much more overall. Especially the ending. Johnny Lee Miller's acting was magnificent during Edmund's confession.
I swooned.
SugarMountain15 1 year ago 3
"What? A compliment!?"
"Laura died" Laura died, my name is Laura!??
lauraisamazingness 1 year ago 3
"What? A compliment!?"
lauraisamazingness 1 year ago
Is it just me or does anyone else think Mary Crawford looks really old in this scene, in fact through the entire movie?
musicalmeg19 1 year ago 8
I prefer the dancing in Pride and Prejudice much more to that in this movie..
xmindframesafetyx 1 year ago 30
omg i agree and the music was much better..it actually got stuck in my head and i would hum it to myself haha
dolphinrider22 3 months ago
@dolphinrider22 hahah, duuuude, I know the feeling. And same. I freaking love that movie and its music.
xmindframesafetyx 3 months ago
Where the hell is the necklace scene? Speaking of which, where the hell is William? This version is so silly.
urbanr0cker 1 year ago 3
Fanny's insecurity is a bit annoying now even though I know thats her character
sidraqsa 1 year ago
I know Henry's supposed to be a jerk and everything, but I just love him in this movie. SO charming and gorge.
christinahhh 1 year ago 8
I'm prejudiced. I ONLY date nerds. They're the only ones I can feel anything for. The "popular guy" is a turnoff. Overexposure isn't very flattering. I like my men "virtuous", too. But of course, this is the post-modern feminist era & in I'm a position to demand virtue & intelligence and many, many, many other things that Austen women could not so.... :-)
ty73us 1 year ago 4
why did she limp off at 2:57? did she break a heel or something? hahah
pinkpanther7892 1 year ago 3
She always loved Edmund.
greekmama73 1 year ago
Is Fanny drunk, or just falling in love with Edmund?! She seems to be stumbling and giddy.
3:33. What a stalker.
113Gems 1 year ago 4
@113Gems i think 3:33 is cute
i've had a few stalkers
i'm not bragging, having a stalker is not something to be proud of
anyway, there are MUCH worse things he could've done
besides, it's not like he trailed after her. he probably just remembers what room she sleeps in. guests often do sleepover for several days during those times
jadeyes914 8 months ago
3:55- does she say, " but do not faint" ?
Kauaigrown17 1 year ago
@Kauaigrown17 Yes =]
DancersAreCool 1 year ago
Wonder why they can't respect the period's style and dance... Still it's better than the version with Billie Piper who is even more joyful and stupid and far away from the book's character. At least here we dont have that ridiculous pick nick, but still it's quite disappointing that they couldn't have respected the book more.
Jillian 1 year ago 2
@Jillian Well, Fanny is really NOT a heroine to appeal to the ages. Not that Austen really intended her to be. Her story is supposed to be a dark and sad one... not exactly what the writers of the uber fluffy romance genre of today aim for. Fanny is unfortunate in that modern writers want to cram and shove her to fit the mold of other Austen heroines, like Elizabeth
WildGiggleGirl 1 year ago
omg crawford and edmund are so sexy in this movie and btw i also love fanny dress
arjohnson2013 1 year ago
I love it when she says that she complimented his dancing, and to 'keep his wig on' ... Jane's characters in all her books are so straightforward. If someone is a drunk, or a fop, or an idiot, it's obvious. And all her leading ladies and their strength, intelligence, humility, inner (as well as outer) beauty ... I love that they all have minds and a thirst for something better. Jane put so much of herself into each of those characters ...
sislau 1 year ago
I don't care if it is inaccurate, the dance scene is marvelous! I loved it! Also, that guy who coyly looked at Fanny at 0:44 was really cute. Does anyone know who he is so that I may stalk... er... look at pictures of him?
SgtPlmFry 1 year ago 3
Can anyone tell me what it is the Fanny says after she puts out the candle? I can catch most of it but the first few words of the first sentence I miss everytime I replay it.
Tygrfawn78 1 year ago 3
@Tygrfawn78 i think it's "run mad as often as you choose, but do not faint"
IstinaBEPA 1 year ago
I believe the dance is called "Jenny's Market" or something similar.
syr3nth3r3dqu33n 1 year ago
Thats not a full waltz. there are English dances that require being very close. If you look at the one dance in the 2009 version of "Emma" Emma and Mr Knightly are dancing VERY close to one another. :D
syr3nth3r3dqu33n 1 year ago
@syr3nth3r3dqu33n waltz's didn't really become popular till 1815 Congress of Vienna==in the Emma I don't know what the hell they are dancing!
vivascargill 1 year ago
I am sorry I know Mr. Crawford is an ass but I the way he looks at Fanny when they dances.
Ivinnguaq 1 year ago 2
@Ivinnguaq I agree with you. For nothing in the world I can resist to Alessandro Nivola's eyes. I just can't . So it is impossible for me to see him as an ass. the 2007 version is better because he is uglier there.
liliswedina 1 year ago
keep your wig on lol
angiesamoa 1 year ago 2
The dance scene was soooo beautiful! :D <3 Loved it!
BeeVan19 1 year ago
Beautiful illustrations of the dynamics in the novel through the expression of the eyes, the music and the motions. Lovely scene there.
junejoyleng 1 year ago 2
Why was Fanny walking out of the ballroom like that?? She looked like something was wrong with her.
shaebaby614 2 years ago 4
I think she is just a little bit dizzy.. after such a dance:)
motomotohey 2 years ago 4
she just chillin.
xrainbowponiesx 1 year ago
"...keep your wig on..." Crawford's a sexy devil, but a devil nonetheless.
lonesomelittlegirl 2 years ago 2
Actually, what she said was 'keep your wriggle.'
junejoyleng 1 year ago
i think she said keep your wig on
Hope4bella 1 year ago 5
HAHAHA keep ur wig on!! hahaha cracked me up!
hopefaithloverespect 2 years ago 4
2:56 ... Is it just me or is she walking kind of funny?
WildGiggleGirl 2 years ago 8
0:02 why does she have to carry that heavy basket and he doesn't offer to carry it for her? so ugnetlemanly...
olooshia 2 years ago 61
Probably for a visual effect. It gives her something "hide" behind.
WildGiggleGirl 2 years ago 4
@olooshia my thoughts exactly!
aikenshin 1 year ago
0:44 LOL
gotsplagchnon 2 years ago 6
ohmigod I just realized Mary Crawford is Ms. Honey from Matilda.
palebluedot 2 years ago 11
haha and shes thats crazy lady from 13 ghosts. :)
joellynmorgan 2 years ago
I won't argue that the dance scene wasn't done well. It was beautiful, but completely inaccurate. Dancing in the closed position as they were shown doing would have never been allowed by someone as conservative as Sir Thomas. The waltz was introduced in England just after the Napoleonic Wars and was only danced in the most stylish halls in London. It wasn't widely accepted until much later and even then it still received criticism since it required a man and woman to embrace.
Yeah, I'm a nerd.
WildGiggleGirl 2 years ago 193
No, you're not a nerd. You're just right , and I was thinking the exact same thing : 'aren't they a little too close for regency propriety?'
Tozi05 2 years ago 7
@WildGiggleGirl not a nerd :) just educated!
RheaLivesOn 1 year ago
@WildGiggleGirl cool nerd,
QuantumProphet 1 year ago
@WildGiggleGirl well put though i could not keep up with so many facts but i must say you do know what you're talking about and i pretty much forgot what i was going to say first!!
angijuan 1 year ago
@WildGiggleGirl didnt they use the same thing in the newer mansfield adaption with Billie Piper.
TheDoctorrWho 1 year ago
@TheDoctorrWho I'm not sure, I haven't seen that version.
WildGiggleGirl 1 year ago
@WildGiggleGirl You are absolutely correct, the music and dancing is totally wrong for the period, Why they did not show a dance scene of the period, I cannot understand.
gilyat 1 year ago
@gilyat They may have wanted it to look different than all of the other dances in the other movies (Pride and Prejudice, Persuasion, and Emma), but it just looks kind of silly if you know anything at all about the period. Even Lord "Depravity and Sin" Byron was offended by the waltz!
WildGiggleGirl 1 year ago
@WildGiggleGirl
Nerd girls are the hotness. :-)
policemanaaron 1 year ago
@policemanaaron Oh good, is that a common consensus among men or a rare opinion held by the few?
FGP02 1 year ago
@FGP02
Alas, that is the view of only a minority of men. Just as most girls don't go for nerdy guys, most guys don't go for nerdy girls. Personally, I love nerd girls - there's just so much more to them.
policemanaaron 1 year ago
@WildGiggleGirl don't worry, being a nerd is a good thing!
Maksimfan 1 year ago
@WildGiggleGirl
Not a nerd I am in love with history myself.Lovers of history are the story tellers espcially for those who prefer oral history.
2SIXimixedBABIES 1 year ago 2
@WildGiggleGirl Nice to see someone cares about accuracy!
Robinwhiteart 1 year ago
@WildGiggleGirl Nice to see someone cares about accuracy! Also the music is wrong.
Robinwhiteart 1 year ago
@WildGiggleGirl at least you can admit it :D
ellaohyeah 1 year ago
@WildGiggleGirl
A nerd you may be, Ms. Wild, but a correct one all the same haha! Let us nerds unite against this heinous scandal which is the waltz! ;-]
They seem to do this in almost every Austen film, not keeping in mind that the waltz was hardly even beginning to enter into acceptable dance practice when Ms. Jane died, certainly not when the books were being written!
Ah well, we shall have to content ourselves with sitting on the couch alone yelling at the screen! :)
LeannanStair 11 months ago 4
@WildGiggleGirl Hehe, yes! I'm always reading in historic romance novels how scandalous the waltz is! It's often a very erotic moment for the book, too! Lol.
hollydaytimetv 10 months ago
@WildGiggleGirl I I thank you for you information :-)
RoadlessPath 8 months ago
Ugh. WHY IS EVERYONE SO CHARMING?
breehernandez 2 years ago 7
more elegant a version than the 2007 one.
hedonistic2008 2 years ago 6
I dont see why ppl dislike the idea of changing characters, that occurs each time a novel is changed into a film. It is always an interpretation. We are all just too used to the fine screenwriting of the bbc versions that seem to use to be very closely adapted. Even that is an interpretation based on our time's preferences and point of view.
marshhen 2 years ago 7
2:18
I love that look!!!!!!!! :)
purelivingmusic 2 years ago 3
Im really enjoying this so much, thank you mansfieldparkmovie! Im also enjoying the discussions in the comments. Saturday- the washings out and house is done, movie to watch BLISS!
fatchicksrfab 2 years ago
lol i love how both the men are starring at her as she walks drunkenly away :)
priscillawithnolife 2 years ago 8
Aw, that dancing scene was no joke! and i love the moment 3:01 where both men look at her.. so sweet!
matthardy1love 2 years ago 6
Truly, the dance scene was well done... Dances were at that time the only way of socialising and indeed, in such a movie, its a main element.I loved the camera angles and how it pinpointed the movements of the hands and the touches..
IfigeniaLovesYou 2 years ago 9
She's been drinking quite a bit, presumably to bear up more easily having the limelight. You see it in the uncharacteristic flirtatious comment and the way she closes her eyes and throws her head back while spinning. Tipsy! The dance scene was very well done...all the sweet riangulation!
nannhudson 2 years ago 4
im confused, who does fanny love?
and is edmound giving mixed signals...who does he love?
blue0eyed0girlyy0 2 years ago
fanny loves her cousin edmund, but is a little attracted to Henry...
edmund has always loved fanny, but only as a sister... he is now attracted to Mary Crawford.
In the end they search both their feelings and their hearts to find out who they truly love
purelivingmusic 2 years ago 6
i adore the dance scene. it's lovely.
joyleng 2 years ago 11
i seriously wanted henry & fanny together he is so cute they make the perfect couple even in the book
edmund is too like her
FaNofnothin 2 years ago 4
2:57 her walking looks weird... but i love this dancing scene very much
Rosenrot0eme 2 years ago 5
To me it looks like she's drunk.
optimisticbabe 2 years ago 3
that's cuz she's drunk. lol....oh fanny :)
bananars805 2 years ago 3
i feel like this adaptation has the most "modern" feel to it: there isn't as much (or as strict) social formality as there is in other austen adaptations.
i really disagree with the extent to which they've changed fanny's character. austen's heroines are what make her novels what they are; in a movie adaptation, it's fine to make subtle plot changes, but something just feels wrong about altering a character as much as was done for this film.
handsclean16 2 years ago 7
Yeah, I love some of the camera angles and storytelling elements, but monkeying with the customs and characters to make it more appealing to modern audiences ruins it. They would have done better to adapt it entirely to modern times and give it a different title if they wanted to go this route.
hollywoodartchick 2 years ago 6
It's bad to change the character slightly, in oder to appeal to modern audience. But this is quite a radical revision, so it's like a different novel commenting on Jane Auten's novel. Well, the director has a reputation for rebellions in cinema, so it's a logical step in context of her career.
dAvrilthebear 2 years ago
I love the camera game during the dancing of who's looking at who - very clever. Elegant.
setapartforgood 2 years ago 5
Does anyone know the name of the piece playing?
Sunbeam25 2 years ago
@Sunbeam25 : Keep Your Wig on by James Shearman and Nick Ingman. I think it's such a beautiful piece. :)
wrongjungle 1 year ago
@wrongjungle I've been trying to find this score for so long and with no success- do you know how can I possibly get it?
JerNela 1 year ago
@JerNela the album is available on Amazon I believe, but the sheet music? No idea. Perhaps you'd have to make contact with the composer? Hope you are able to find it.
wrongjungle 1 year ago
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JerNela 1 year ago
"Run mad as often as you choose but do not faint." I really like that line :)
tiffers1912 2 years ago 7
"She does not think evil but she speaks it" As a soon to be clergyman, Edmund should know about what the Bible says concerning the dangers of speaking evil. Silly man is blinded by his infatuation
tiffers1912 2 years ago 5
i got to go look up the book and read.
lovelybaby1522 2 years ago 3
Love the dance scene! Tis so elegant!
LadyOfHisHeart 2 years ago 5
Edmund is so good looking!!!
redheadshorty3290 2 years ago 65
@redheadshorty3290
If you like him here, he's also in an adaption of Austen's Emma (on YouTube).
policemanaaron 1 year ago
@redheadshorty3290 - Be sure to see him as Knightly in the 2009 version of Emma - which is WONDERFUL
raymonda100 1 year ago 4
@redheadshorty3290 yeah.. one good in the movie..
freshglance 1 year ago
ughhh i want so much to like this movie because it's Austen, but there are so many strange kinks that frustrate me. whatever, it has its moments i guess...
nowayjose222 2 years ago 4
My thoughts exactly...I'll keep watching the rest of the vids, but just out of curiosity over what else was changed.
mleliza3 2 years ago
Fanny's dress is GORGEOUS!!!!
Graxyce 2 years ago 9
sorry ment to give u a thunbs up but i hit the wrong one by mistake but i do agree with u her dress is Gorgeous !!!
stargategirl87 2 years ago
:D lol sounds like something I would do.
Graxyce 2 years ago
this story is such a trip, clergymen and modesty are good, wit and education and music are bad, bluh
benegeseritwhore 2 years ago
I don't think that's what the movie is conveying. Fanny is witty and smart, and when she talks to Mary about her harp she says "it depends on the music" so clearly she has an appreciation for it. I think it's just trying to show that there's a fine line between being witty and rude, and Mary's love of her harp inconvenienced people, again showing how people can be rude when they think they're just having fun.
tiffers1912 2 years ago
lOl. When Fanny's all like "tonight I agree with everyone" she looks like shes drunk lOl.
strawberrylovsyou 2 years ago 3
I think she was a little drunk.. right? Especially at the end of the dance!
iraqilynn 2 years ago 2
she's very agreeable and pretty, but very different from fanny in the book. fanny is much more timid and reserved.
thanks for posting!
kimbyy16 2 years ago 4
Minuets are NOT danced like that!
1401JSC 2 years ago
the music wasn't a minuet anyway
dernieremode 2 years ago
What would you call it?
1401JSC 2 years ago
i'm not sure, but you can hear that it is not in 3/4 time, so it's not a minuet
dernieremode 2 years ago
Are you deaf?
It certainly is in three time.
1401JSC 2 years ago
It's a great film about a great period of history but in this extract of the film I think that the fact that the ladies don't wear gloves is not right; from what I know of that period they should have worn gloves. But I'm not an expert of the etiquette of that time.
xavierob 2 years ago 2
They definitely should have been wearing gloves :/
mizpopo 2 years ago 4
The dancing music is simply divine...
redqueeen 2 years ago
This Fanny Price is terrible. She is nothing like the character in the book. She should have been portrayed the way Jane Austen meant for her to be. I prefer the story in in this movie because it sticks to the book more, but overall, the 2007 movie is better. Billie Piper is a better Fancy.
razzigirl 2 years ago
really?? cause i completely disagree...the Fanny in the book is reserved and shy and quiet and takes a lot of abuse without really defending herself...i though billie piper was waaayyy too confident and assertive
brimarie21344 2 years ago 4
I agree with you, I did not like the Billie Piper as Fanny at all. Very mismatched, & although this one strays somewhat from the book, I still prefer her as Fanny.
lcecmmkp 2 years ago 6
a lovely dance scene
NevestaGrafaDeLyaFer 2 years ago 5
The Fanny Price in this movie is more satisfying than the one in the book, who let everyone walk all over her and didn't mind. However, since the movie got so many other details wrong, I think the book wins.
CalvinistMorena 2 years ago
Frances O'Connor looks like a young Sally Field =]
broadworld 2 years ago
@broadworld
I thought that too!
cheleae 1 year ago
haha. cool, i'm not alone.
broadworld 1 year ago
So, does Henry kid around and pretend to like her at first, which eventually leads into genuine love, or did I just do a major misview?
broadworld 2 years ago
No, you're right. At first it's just because he's bored and wants another conquest, but then he genuinely does fall in love with her (at least in the book - can't answer for this adaptation; it's totally different so far).
ChocolateIsMyDrug 2 years ago
Hmm. Okay, that really helped. I read a bit of the synopsis of the novel and it said what you said, but I couldn't see it in the movie. Is this movie supposed to be significantly different from the novel?
broadworld 2 years ago
Yeah, it's very different - it's based on Jane Austen's letters as well.
Sir Thomas does not have an evil slave-trading double-life. Tom Bertram drinks and gambles because he's irresponsible, not because he's trying to repress traumatic memories - and he doesn't hate his father.
Fanny is painfully shy and never really resents being bossed around by everyone. Edmund thinks of Fanny as a sister until the very end, whereas here he seems to like her.
ChocolateIsMyDrug 2 years ago
But slavery is mentioned in the book, I'm assuming, or else they wouldn't of added it in the movie. Ohh, so Tom does like his father. Throughout the whole movie I thought he despised him. So Fanny is more reserved in the novel than she is in the movie? Wow, everything is so different. Why would the director portray the novel like that?
broadworld 2 years ago
If slavery was ever mentioned, it was only very briefly, in passing. In the movie, Tom does despise his father - but not in the book. Fanny is not only more reserved, she's more shy, more passive, and lets people walk all over her. Have no idea why it's so different, but this is not Mansfield Park - haven't seen a really good adaptation of this yet, but the 2007 version, IMO best captures the essence of the novel out of the available adaptations, even if it misses out a few things.
ChocolateIsMyDrug 2 years ago