1973 Cup Winners Cup Final: Overturned?

[Evenson71]

They were the most hated team in the country for a reason, look at how hated United and Chelsea are, Leeds were hated like that in the 70's only much worse.

[Evenson71]

The result should never be over turned, Leeds were pure scum in the 70's, they lost the 75 european cup, 73 fa cup, and all the league titles and trophies because they were scum, they ruined the game for everyone.

[Faber9722]

We used money only to have good players in our teams; not to corrupt; With your heads you have remained to the times of Henry VIII, when maybe you really had the best teams.INthe 70ies if we bought our players it was already an achievement. Who has so much money to buy the games as you state (but you English were a people of traders so you must have bought many more cups than the ones you attribute to us) didn't run the risk to melt away as it happened in 1986 when Berlusconi saved us.

[Faber9722]

repeat for the hundredth time that you like make confusion between the blood of battlefield and the blood of pitch; Michas hated English because in 1941 you escaped like hares from Greece to take shelter in Africa while the German tanks & our tuna's tanks kicked you out of Greece, leaving the Greek people under the heel of the German and Italian Rule. Do you like politics? Maybe now you understand why Michas hated you so much, as you say you won the war (with american money,tanks &multitudes).

[JACKANDJAY10]

WAS ALSO PROVED THAT ROMA CHEATED DUNDEE UNITED IN 1984 EUROPEAN CUP : FACT.

[Faber9722]

@JACKANDJAY10

Yes the usual boring story, the italian always cheat and english always honest; Go to tell it to someone else please! do you still go on to read your shitty tabloids that cradle you like the children,saying the world is unjust becuase you lose? Wake up, watch outside your Island, lengthen the neck out of the Channel, World doesn't finish with England. From your parlour's chats what I understand it is that the proofs of the whole shit you say comes out only from English mouths

[Faber9722]

@JACKANDJAY10

So when the "truth" (I can imagine which "truth" is yours, the one of this subspecies of politician who stole your money sitting lazily in Eurpean pArliament while you become hunchback at work)comes only from the mouths of same country, it has the same valour of the things we produce in the w.c. Boys I thought English were more intelligent and didn't believe the politicians, as we ( and this italian flaw is something I can admit) still go on to do, as we have no other choice

[Faber9722]

@JACKANDJAY10

By the way as the winner goes back to final and we went back to final despite the defeat against Magdeburg, we contributed to create with an own goal (but the rest was their stuff we must admit it), where was the Leeds in the final of 1974; help me to remember because I sought it out in the chronicles of football but I didn't manage to find the whites. in order not to forget something as we are always the corrupt ones, you never you clean like the doves, I remember that Dacourt

[Faber9722]

@JACKANDJAY10

as Milan had already qualified , he hoped that Milan gave up playing so that Leeds could qualify at the place of Barcelona and Dacouirt played with Leeds; thanks the post of Shevchenko on the penaltyother wise it would have finished 2-1 like in Salonikki despitre all the bullshits you said even if you would not have won in any case or should I remind that Valencia crushed you 3-0 also; the match of Valencia was bought by the Spanish who are Latinos? Please change museum of lies

[JACKANDJAY10]

@Faber9722 ...I dont support Leeds and in every single case i mentioned,all was proved that the refs were bought,thats nothing to do with tabloids,its the truth.Your shit country bottled it in the war,and now thery're in financial ruin.I dont believe the politicians,i believe in proven facts that are availabale to everyone.Italian football ruined european football for a lot of fans in the 70's with their pay offs.Italians did cheat, so why refuse to accept the truth.?

[Faber9722]

@JACKANDJAY10

The proofs come from the country which was directly involved in the matches as defeated part; when one loses has always pretexts to offer, so tell me which valour may have your prooofs, when your teams lose the matches in Europe the other ones always buy, let's say the contrary; the truth is that you never accepted catenaccio as a a game; Leeds lost against us because of catenaccio, and the proofs of "purchase" are shitty proofs coming only from England.Wich value do they have?

[Faber9722]

@JACKANDJAY10

About the spirit you bring in the stadiumS, when you liken 1918 &1945 to England -Germany=4-2 (for Gods' sake last year Justice was done but also the Germans won thrice and you only one,BUT you are foolishly considered as the motherland of football!) the healthy blood of football pitch with the irretrievable blood of the battlefields, I want to remind you that without America that deservedly punished you in 1783 and in 1815 YOU WOULD HAVE NEVER WON THE WARS

[Faber9722]

@JACKANDJAY1

So before saying shit country to other fatherlands, I remind you that english fans are the embodiment of bad spirit in the stadium; if we want to examine all finals why don't overthrow the finals won by the English teams? Where is your coherence. (1) You mingle war and leisure-war where everyone should be friend (2) Your fans are always involved in struggles everywhere, so the presumed civilization achieved by the English after Heysel (YOu were the only nation excluded

[Faber9722]

@JACKANDJAY1

from violence of the own fans). Also the scots and the welsh have remained within the European competitions while you were out. It must mean something don't you agree? In talk you with facts not with nationalism.The truth??? The english truth you mean. I imagine how much important is the english truth nowadays. You didn't partake European Union because Germany and France would have made with you what they mean to do with us now, they would have made your life impossible.

[Faber9722]

@JACKANDJAY10

Our money was used only to buy good players not to corrupt as you crazy and foolish english truths state, from Rivera and Liedholm , who won the Championship where no famous trainer had the skill to win (except Capello and that proves that you English and your national team with such a ttrainer a re really a desperate case!!)to Ibrahimovic anbd Robinho. We used the money only for that. Neither Juventus I always personally disliked made what you stated. Much pressure on refs true

[JACKANDJAY10]

I DONT SUPPORT LEEDS BUT I KNOW ITALIAN TEAMS CHEATED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE 60'S & 70'S.JUVENTUS BRIBED THE REF WHEN THEY BEAT DERBY AND THE SAME IN THIS MATCH...EVEN THE ITALIAN JOURNOS KNOW KNOW WHAT A CORRUPT CHEATING NATION ITALY WAS.

[Scotitalic]

Hahahaha. Whinging poms and saw loosers. Go AC Milan!!

[davidgbarron]

Corruption in Greek Football. Go back two seasons to 1970-71 and ask Everton, most especially Joe Royle, who was told by a Panathinaikos player that were not going to go through. This was in the book Football Babylon published in the mid 1990s.

[Faber9722]

Your brain is bribed..... IT'S ONLY you that you saw the penalties. When you undergo the defeats you must lower heads and stay silent. Where is the English fair play? I am hearing the same bullshits of the italian newespaper writers. The greatest Lie written by the English newpapers was that Sogliano. was not sent off. HUGE AND ENDLESS LIE. SOGLIANO WEAS SENT OFF TOGETHER WITH HUNTER. YOU SAID THAT ONLY HUNTER WAS SENT OFF WRRRRROOOOONNNNGGGG AND FALSE

[Faber9722]

The more the cups , The more the likelihood for all the temas to win; now a much football, three days of European cups and the level of football has somewhat lowered to be generous, and we lost all a Cup, who won it and who lost it

[Faber9722]

pasted to the chairs to steal the money, of the english and europeans who work hard. Learn to use your heads, English friends.if you really love football create a page. that can be shown to UEFA and where it is proven that soccer audience turns down the soccer elite wanted and wished by some teams chairmen; if it is said by a stubbon fan of Milan you can believe me

[Faber9722]

if Catenaccio is used by Tottenham is fine to pass to the following round, if it is used by Milan to win a Cup , which is perfectly deserved despite the bullshits you heard and said: sign a petition to come back to the Cup of Winner's Cup which will help new teams to arise, instead of signing the petition of one, that is politically opposite to berlusconi, but who like him wants to keep his chair. if you really love football sign petitions for new cups not the petitions of those, who keep

[Faber9722]

catenaccio all is good, where is the english coherence???? 3) your politicians and noblemen had yourselves slaughtered for an empire everywhere in the world , while they fucked your sweethearts and do you still believe all the shits they say. I thought the English youth had more balls and more brain above all

[Faber9722]

If you really had loved Leeds instead of listening to the bullshits of a man , who has stolen your money, like the italian representatives, sitting in the European Parliament, you would have handed over a petition to UEFA to rebuild Cup of Winner's Cup; 1) You speak badly about italian football but you have the same vices; as soon as there is one player falling down soon penalty even if he has fallen alone like a little girl (2) You speak badly of Catenaccio when Tottenham wins at S.Siro with

[bilos1993]

I'm from Greece, and I have to say that Greek referees were always like this. And they still are. Maybe not that much, since they will give a penalty if it is clear, but they might give advantages without there being any, or they might not give a foul or a card. It's just annoying. Good teams are left outside of whole leagues because of this.

[chevvy57]

stefd321 and another thing, the great Coughie??? if it so upset his principles that Leeds cheated??? why did he take their managers job, so much for his principles. Didn't last long there did he, couldn't take being stood up to by a team of internationals. Cloughie never had the bottle or skill to manage a really big club where the expectations and achievments were high eg Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool and unlike Revie there is evidence he took bribes and bungs off transfers ask Terry Venables

[chevvy57]

stefd321 evidence the ref was bribed is the fact that UEFA banned him from European games after 1973 Final Leeds v Milan If you took the time to see the whole game instead of basing your rabidly anti Leeds drivel on a short video and knew the fact the ref arrived at the game on the Milan plane then even a f*cking retard like you would realise the ref was bribed. Claims of Revie bribery vs Bury & Wolves is crap Leeds lost both games No other evidence exists only in Stokoes cess pit mind

[MySilverr]

In all fairness this match looked fixed. Also, Leeds had that terrible referee in 1975 in Paris. (The Lorimer goal, the Clarke penalty)

[Faber9722]

@MySilverr

so instead of attacking Milan, why didn't you attack Bayern with the same energy??? I explain that to you. It is called simply prejudice, If you had ever tried to do such a shitty and foolish petition against the final of 1975, you would have found the entire Bavaria emigrating under the siege of Leeds United and neither the players nor the leaders of the team would have come out alive with all those Germans under the window of Leeds United offices. With all those angry Germans

[BillDFC]

A.C.Milan!! cheating bastards did the same against Dundee in the Semi-Finals of the European Cup '62-'63.

[Faber9722]

@BillDFC

We didn't dpo anything of what you said; the truth is that you were crushed 5-1 and the Ipswich 0-3 and the latter also relegated the following year; I know that because English people told me that. So before inventing lies we must pay attention. I want to see whether to a deepened exam all the matches in Europe, which were won by English teams were so clean and crystal as you state.I strong feel my doubts. To corrupt you must have money, but the only the wealthy ones were you Briton

[Faber9722]

@BillDFC

The only money we used was to buy good players; what English never had, apart from Charlton and Best. I may add Scholes and Rooney. Also ASrsenal that I like very much is declining because it is using the same italian methods; not to believe in the english players, in the own guys.You are accusing us of corruption but you are dragging your football in the same mud; if we think that a strong team like the gunners have only one English boy in their ranks and besides he too comes from

[Faber9722]

@BillDFC

the colonies, and that you need and Italian trainer to rise up with the national teams, it means that we are superior despite this temporary crisis of italian teams but you willnever admit it. But it doesn't matter. iN iSTANBUL MiLAN MIGHT HAVE FINISHED 4-0 the first half but a fourth goal was misteriously nuyllified. Maybe you english have some explanation but this time the referee was clean differently from Michas. The reckoning don't come this time??? We never had money to bribe

[Faber9722]

@BillDFC

referees we had good players in 1970s and we were also robbed in 1963 against Santos but in the end we managed to achieve the Intercontinental Cup we deserved in 1969 against Argentinians. the english teams manged to win the Intercontinental only in 1999 thanks to Manchester. Before no single team from your Island won a World cup for clubs . It means something! Or Am i always crazy only becauseI am Italian!!?? Flamengo-lIVERPOOL=3-0, Estudiantes laPlata -Manchester=1-0,1-1 against

[Faber9722]

@BillDFC

Milan-Estudiantes=3-0=1-2. They didn't accept the defeat as you Britons but the Cup was ours and well obtained and deserved. And in 2005 what happened to liverpool ? Did they win they world cup?? It doesn't seem to me.

[SuperKellysheroes]

OR SET UP OUR OWN EUROPEAN COMPETITIONS AND REFUSE TO ENTER UNLESS ITS ON A ROTA SYSTEM !!! ITS THE ONLY WAY TO GET AFAIR DEAL IN EUROPE !!!

[SuperKellysheroes]

ALSO ENGLAND FOOTBALL TEAM WOULD GET A BETTER DEAL LOOK HOW WE GOT CHEATED AGAIN AGAINST THE GERMANS IN 2010 WORLD CUP, WE WOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT IF WE WERE IN CHARGE, NO WONDER THE FRENCH IN CHARGE OF UEFA DONT WANT VIDEO TECH WITH TIERRY HENRY ON HAND !!! NUDGE NUDGE WINK WINK !!!

[Faber9722]

@SuperKellysheroes

who strikes with the sword....cough cough I am sorry, who strikes with the post and Hunts with the posts (1966)it's the same who will die of the post (2010). Now you are authorized nto win again the world championship provided that you manage to do it aND WHETHER AN ITALIAN TRAINER can manage to fix into your blockheads how to win it

[SuperKellysheroes]

leeds utd were robbed by a bribed referee in european cup final against bayern when we get there again make clear not stand for it the referees financies / movements before game watched very carefully by uefa, mind you what does england teams expect when its controlled by the french, look how they did nothing about henry handballing to qualify world cup 2010

eng. officials in charge of uefa or a rota system for european countries in charge uefa not left upto the cheating french!!!!

[WJCairns]

But then Derby County's fixture with Juventus that same year should also be reversed - there was a strong whiff of corruption there as well!

[jim3052]

WATCCOE

[jkoff76]

Wouldn't say that Leeds was unused to this sort of play..... would you??

[stefd321]

POT KETTLE BLACK. Google "Don Revie" and "Bribery" and see how many results. The great clough said if leeds won anything it was due to cheating. What did Clough know?

[LiQuidMetamorphosis]

You are obviously not biased at all, right...

Milan fans - your losses to other British teams means nothing to us. You cheated in this final and were relegated to Serie B in the early 80s for corruption. So you should be stripped of the title. you have plenty of trophies - give it up already !

[theyorkshirewhites]

Don't upset Norm you cheating eyetie bastards.

[LiQuidMetamorphosis]

additionally Whether Revie cheated is immaterial and mostly based on rumours after his death when the man couldn`t defend himself. ref Ray Tinkler robbed us of the league in 71 allowing Jeff Astle`s 20 yard offside goal for WBA to stand.

The great Clough also managed at Leeds after saying this, don`t forget that. So he wasn`t principled enough to turn down a club who `only won by cheating`

[davidleigh65]

you have to feel sorry for the great leeds team ofthe 70s..........stitched up in 73....................and then the same thing happened in the 75 final against bayern. thjink its true that the refs in these games didnt referee european games again!

[Faber9722]

@davidleigh65

why didnt you make the petition against Bayern!!??? Neither tried. Germany causes fears doesn't it??!! Italian federation doesn't fright anyone but your cORBETT NEITHER TRIED to defend the team of 1975 (the sam esubstantially of two years before) against Bayern, but against Berlusconi (Corbett is a laburist or a communist all clear!!)and his team Yes; whereas also the Germans had had their scandal in 2005 with Hoyzer; it smells of deep incoherence, only hatred towards italians

[stefd321]

"few people doubt the referee was bribed" - where is even a shred of evidence?? So corruption was a big problem in Greece. Does this mean this mean this match was corrupt? The freekick was indirect? Didn't see many Leeds players compalining when the ball went in. Leeds player's legs blatantly hacked in the area? More like a dive. This is all sour grapes and a case of pot calling kettle black. Don Revie has himself has match fixing and corruption history. Eg He tried to bribe Bobby Stokoe.

[theyorkshirewhites]

"Where is a shred of evidence."?

Where is there any evidence that Revie bribed, or attempted to bribe anybody..including Stokoe.?

[northernlad57]

Leeds were completely shafted that night - I watched it at the time and I felt the same then as I do now.

[rathdeort2008]

Why is it that big mean defenders (not just big Norm) can dish out the rough stuff for years and yet as soon as someone kicks them they want to fight and scream like girls. Be a bloody man, if you dish it out, take it too.

PS, that was cheating that night. The Fa should have had the balls to stand up for their club.

[FOUDEFOOT85]

ENGLAND NATIONAL TEAM : more than 40 years without playing any final of a WORLD CUP or a EUROCUP ! why ?

They are not fair play !They can't accept their losses !

[EuropeanCup2003]

Typical English!! CAN'T ACCEPT THEIR LOSSES. Milan were CHEATED in BOTH the 1993 and 2005 European Cup final versus Marseille and LUCKYPOOL respectively, but you don't hear us complaining.

[melzarrr]

How was Milan cheated in 2005 ? You got OUTPLAYED, OWNED, DESTROYED by Liverpool

[iMattiMattiMattiMatt]

Needs to be overturned for the sake of football. Maybe 75 is unchangeable, but this is a clear case of corruption.

[Faber9722]

@iMattiMattiMattiMatt

The corruption is in your sick english brains: What you don't accept is that catenaccio defeats you like a style of winning matches and cups; however when Tottenham (for God''s sake honour to Spurs) win with catenaccio at S.Siro in Winter 2011 is fair but whne Leeds loses a final ONLY because of catenaccio so the final is stolen. Please make us laugh! Tell another joke. The proofs of corruption come only from the English Corbett. About your mingling war and football I

[hardyboy1245]

Hi lee,i am a leeds fan too,Gutted we did'nt go up this year mate but i think next season will be our year,Larry Grayson is doing a great job...Love your Boxing channel aswell...Cheers mate.

[WOODDDDDDDYASOCCER]

Thanks Hardy, I hope your right about next season but I have a feeling it will be even tougher with the likes of Southampton & Charlton in our division.

[theyorkshirewhites]

Not so tough in Lge 1 is it?

Show some faith !!

MOT

[locheelad2]

Glasgow Celtic first british team to win european cup 1967....LISBON LIONS (2-1) italians scored first(penalty dive)..then2 goals by CELTIC fullbacks..changed football forever... more exiting more goals

[cajjer]

Leeds should be able to recognise cheating when they see it

[MixedTracialArtist]

fuck milan.

WAR JUVE !

[RichSpurs101]

There's nothing racist about being cheated, and after all it wouldn't be the first AC Milan have been caught match fixing. Just because your not a leeds fan doesn't mean they dont deserve justice.

[Kelly14UK]

This is blatant and horrible!

At one point, the ref looks downwards in guilty embarrassment, if it's not just clever editing to make him look bad. From what i've seen, it STINKS.

I think Leeds got cheated in 75 final too.

[stefd321]

Corrupted Referee? Where's the evidence? It is scandalous to accuse Milan and the Greek ref of colusion. This is a serious case of taking this TV station and presenters to court for slander. Fed up of English racism and prejudice towards 'Johnny Foreigners'. Sore losers? Sour grapes? Look at the video. Jones 'had both his legs taken away' - more like Jones taking a dive.

[jimifawcett]

the ref got banded for admitting it STUPID!! what more evidence do you want? look for the facts before you mouth off

[tomhoppo]

Haha, i think your watching a different video, or you are joking,

a blatant hack at the legs early on, had nothing when a red card was customary. Then for the player to chip hunter and also to shoot directly from a indirect free kick, is frankly taking the piss. Milan should have been banned for their disgraces that night and at least now have the honour taken away