McCain CHEATED SADDLEBACK - LIED! -NOT in Cone of Silence AT ALL - FAKED!!

[doug47130]

Who still wears a goatee?

[lividmany]

Warren is undoubtedly an UNSAVED man and false teacher. DEPART from such an one...

[joetrainer31]

@lividmany thumbs up

[wildn0102]

People put too much credence in these pastors. There no different from you and I. We are all living in the flesh, nothing more. But, I don't trust this Warren fella at all!

[NightHawk1870]

History lesson.....Christianity prevented the progress of man kind. Thats why the Europeans separated church and state. Look at where we are now. I am religious and believe in God.....but it has no place in politics. I dont know about everyone else but I dont wanna go back to the dark ages.

As for the republicans...Jesus was a community organizer and would never vote for you jackasses. Using his name for political gain.

[dkim68]

I knew it! Obama was set up by Pastor Rick Warren. That ends THAT friendship.

[Varren93]

Fatass

[sklatl]

He's clearly lying when he says he thought McCain was in the building. Does he actually expect people to believe that, as a debate he was hosting between the two presidential candidates got underway, that he would be in any way unclear as to whether one of them was even in the building?

[almoncharles]

This preist should be defrocked.

[darealdjnutz]

He lies in a church. Typical Republican politics.

[seven77times]

He answered a question before it was asked !!!!!!!

was he a little eager to perform his rehearsed line ????

[333CAL333]

Wow. I did seem like mccain was a little too prepared for the questions.

[blueguise23]

Rick Warren gave John McCai the questions prior to the forum.

Anyone could tell that. McCain's answers were memorized and sounded like it.

McCain is too old... to retain a question and answer impromptu.

Did you see him the other day - impromptu about the hurricane.

Unfortunately, ALL THE FORUMS and FUTURE DEBATES of the two will probably give McCain the questions the Eve before.

Obama will go in blind. McCain will already know the questions and will memorize his answers.

[erikleemarshall]

blueguise, I don't really think that McCain had the head's up early...because he RARELY ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS!

[333CAL333]

thats right. In his eyes talking about the economy involves bombing iran. Or talking about health care involves having serious military stregnth in georga. or education in american schools involves beefing up the army and taking on north korea. See the pattern folks?

[nebaioth]

Bush/McStain are WAR-MONGERING LIZARDS! Both evil little beasts...bush, a SNAKE, and his clone boy McSame, an IGUANA! Both VENOMOUS and BACTERIA RIDEN! SEE: Veterans Against John McCain - McSame is loathed by Veterans who know about how he betrayed his country by providing 32 propaganda tapes to the Vietcong! George also served dis-honorably! George/McSame have taken America from SURPLUS to DEFICIT! rich=richer, poor=poorer! 10 BILLION A MONTH IN IRAQ! IRAQ HAS 78 BIL SURPLUS!

OBAMA/BIDEN!

[Jellolion1]

leave it to "america's pastor" to lie to us.

what a bunch of bullshit.

[dbl000h7]

What a jerk! What kind of guy cheats at church? Worse than Cartman cheating the Special Olympics! Boo!!!

[RepublicanforObama08]

mcbush/MCSAME sucks !!!!

[onlyloveendures]

If Warren can do this, he's a false prophet. He's in the business to make money -- that's all. He's a phony.

[peterinfrankfurt]

Lying for Jesus! How many times must we hear those lies? How long must we wait to see a single honest Christian?

[57544321]

We believe that churches should stay out of politics or be taxed the same as any other business. McCain cheated and never stopped his mouth from running. He continually talks about his stint at the POW camp. The guys that did not come back from Vietnam are the heroes not him. I am so sick of hearing him rant on about himself and putting others down. WE WANT CHANGE AND NOT THE SAME OLD CRAP THAT WE HAVE BEEN GETTING FROM THIS REPUBLICAN PARTY. THEY HAVE TORN THIS COUNTRY DOWN!!

[Salmo77]

WORD!!!

[cienanosdesoledad]

liar, liar, what a way to help McCain. That is another reason I am voting for Obama.

[Salmo77]

work. I am sick of those fundamentalist lying religious pricks...SICK SICK...they are turning the US into a hugely fuked up country!

[ProlefeedTV]

McCain's "Cross in the Sand" story is a complete fabrication lifted from Gulag Archipelago.

Never once did McCain ever tell this story until he began running for president in 1999.

Why would he forget such a moving and profound story for 25 years then suddenly remember?

Because it NEVER HAPPENED.

[trevor17683]

he lied at church? wow..

[kac56]

Warren is a liar and a fraud...

[ed4030]

McCain has not been able to get through a speech for the last year without stumbling and suddenly, he's articulate? Come on, Saddleback, we'd have more respect for them if they at least admitted it.

[bsport48]

honest forum between two guys wanting to be president, nothing wrong. add religion: BAM! recipe for disaster

[ceebee1402]

boy was warren really bamboozled.

the scary thing about watching mccain on the show was how out of touch he was about who he considers rich. He COULDNT define who is RICH.

Now he can't keep count of how many houses he owns.

Come on NOW I'd kinda like someone in the white house who is a bit more with it brain function wise as well as being able to relate to us "little people."

[netcisco]

ceebee: Do you know how many houses McCain owns? Zero, his wifes foundation owns all their real estate. Match him up with John Kerry and his wife.... LOL

[sandiazp]

Warren is a lier. I am not buying his books anymore.

[MothersForObama08]

Since everyone is talking about abortion, In 1999 McCain supported Roe V. Wade on CNN since we are talking about records. If the McCains are so concerned about abortions and life why does Cindy McCain's liquor pushing company lobbies and protest against Mothers Against Drunk Driving to keep up the sales of alcohol & Booze for her family's liquor pushing company Hensley & Co. They don't like Mothers Against Drunk Driving because they protect Americans and effect substance liquor & booze sales.

[sus2222]

If AMERICANS elect this LIAR McSame, they will get 8 more years of LIES !

Good Luck lovers of LIES !

[kerplunktube]

Rick Warren is just a reincarnation of the blubbery Jerry Falwell. Complete with lies!

[kerplunktube]

Why are Christians such liars?

[Ridinhighlaynlow]

We can weed out these evil people. But first we must allow EVERYTHING to be questioned. What did Bush mean when he said "Let us never tolerate ridiculous conspiracy theories"? Why would he care? hmmmm

[frostflaked]

i am outraged and ashamed at the cover-up for McCain by one of the strongest Christian churches around on Natl TV. i started reading the purpose-driven life last week and now i refuse to finish reading it, cuz all i can think about is how this guy lied for political reasons.

The deceit that took place there is the exact reason why 'faith and politics' need to stay seperated.

[AllStarKase]

So that explains why McCain was like "yes and yes and bad teachers should find new jobs".

I was like, that question hasn't even been asked yet.

Liars!

[digitaljosh]

Why a cone of silence and not room of silence? Very Strange.

[kac56]

This guy Warren is a damn liar...

[niwsrekal]

Truth is McCain knew he would go second because it was arranged that way a long time ago and because he knows the questions already. Obama answered the right wing questions without any preparation while McCain had his people work on his answers for him well in advance. Orange County of all places in California you gotta be kidding. May as well of been Salt Lake City, Utah.

[ninamichelle77]

I agree. You see this man stammer at every town hall and his appearances... he was cool as a cucumber and never stammered once. That was not the McCain everyone sees on the news.

This forum was a joke and all it did was fuel ignorance on a religious platform... not cool.

[arjhen2021]

Wow neutral/middle man/favors noone my butt...was watching him on larry king live he was obviously praising mccain.He just lost alot of credibility and respect.

mccains chose of the wisemen are 2 military and an CEO something tells me he's a warmonger and a corporate puppet.

[stoptherightwing]

I agree with you 100% on his best pics. The worst part of it is Ebay is the largest venue for fraud in the world, yes I am impressed John McShame....

[XTNYC1]

Lying in church on tv in view of millions. Is there no limit to how low McCain will go?

Lie after lie after lie after lie.

Senator John McCain is nothing but a liar.

[Fisue928]

Makes you wonder if the preacher was part of the lie.

[revadavis]

So, was McCain joking when he said that he was trying to hear? Perhaps not.

[TangoBinAlsheed]

I second that agreement...

"Cone of secret service motorcade..."

Complete bullshit, like the McCain campaign couldn't have turned on the RADIO and listen to the questions asked

[demented669]

is anyone shocked to hear that a "pastor" lied ?? come on he is not the first so called "holy" man that lied to the sheep...

[Morons4JohnMcCain]

pastor rick apparently doesn't want to play fair, he aided and abetted this travesty

[LunaCat59]

I find it completely hilarious when a Christian gets caught lying. They all spout off about morality and they are the biggest hypocrites of all!

[tarquin08]

I agree..

[Davidthorough]

Hideous.

[bluesrunnerdog]

McCain lie! Warren Lie! Now, can we trust this man as the next President?

[bluesrunnerdog]

I hope American are not going to vote for a cheater!

[OperaFanXXXOOO]

he laughs like John Candy doing a fake laugh. if you shaved his face, he'd look like a young rush limbaugh. i guess that is why he keeps that beard.

[LunaCat59]

This whole Saddleback thing was such a huge waste of time.  Do those Right Wing Christians and Republicians really think the rest of us are completely stupid? McCain was so obvious, telling them all exactly what they wanted to hear!

[Divatis]

Talk about....evading the answer! What a farce

[Danilo111]

You CANNOT flip a coin without both people being present.

I guess that explains why Obama called Warren "A rich man" instead of "A man of God"

[casan20007]

SMOKING GUN:

McCain says: " Are we going to GET BACK to the importance of supreme court justices?"

Interviewer says: " we will get to that, man...you know all my questions"

McCain got excited with his momentum with the crowd and thus a slippage of tongue.

"GET BACK"?! Remember that the question was not raised yet!

Well, Bush cheated twice to get into the whitehouse and McCain surely wants to continue the streak. Believing God is on their side and therefore allowing him to cheat.

[kswright1]

I agree 100%

[stoptherightwing]

Isn't it funny that Fix Noise & other God Loving right wingers didn't catch that section of the CIVIL FORUM? No, John McShame didn't know the answers, excuse me this idiot when interviewed without knowing what the question is going to be looks dumber than GW Bush. If that's possible. Sorry Bill O the clown.

[mackhoe]

another thing ,when he asked how was your cone of silence .i could see it on his face that he knew mccain had fucked him ,and forced him to have to lie ,and rick knew he was gonna get called on it .danm and they are supposed to be friends

[Budmax305]

Mackhoe - how could they flip a coin if McCain wasn't even there, yet? Rick Warren lied at the very beginning. He can't claim innocence!

[AnnuitCoeptis714]

I've got a solution for you all... JOIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY! Jesus is a liberal, not a republican. Know the truth people. The conservatives are manipulating religion to get evangelical voters to vote in their favor.

[pholcombe]

McCain is a cheating sack of shit.

[AnnuitCoeptis714]

Rick Warren is a phony. He's in it for the profit, not for Jesus Christ

[jmartin3]

Sadly, that's why most of them are in it. Ka-Ching.

[Newssnoop]

As Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks would say; "Come on!, Come on!". Firstly, why did Pastor Warren write a question on paper before the forum began, which was to be given in advance to both candidates (one who was not present), supposedly to relax them? He then went on to say he gave it to both of them, although Mccain didn't show up until 30 minutes after the forum began. "Come on!"

[LandOfoz266]

You're right. He said first that he didn't realize John wasn't there. Then he admitted he couldn't give him the written question. Then he asked, first thing, how was the cone of silence, laughing. He knew EXACTLY how this was playing out. You are right!

[mosfonotoc]

Why would McCain cheat and not lie about it too? Warren is either a goddamn idiot or he is in collusion.

[MClown69]

I have a comment on the McCain cone of silence story we were just watching. Everyone saying theres no proof he knew the questions before hand... To prove that McCain knew the questions before hand just watch the part when he answers about the abortion issue. He makes a reference to the supreme court justice question that comes later in the forum. Theres your proof he already knew they were going to ask that question later on.

[AnonymousBChurch]

The biggest cheater of all is Rick Warren, who pretends to be a "Christian" pastor and then hides God's word from people. When he asked the candidates about evil and what we should do about it, this so-called "Christian" ignored Jesus' direct answer in Matthew 5:39. Rick Warren is a Lying Whore.

[mackhoe]

not only that, im just mystified that at a so called faith forum , why no one got asked when they got saved, or baptised, my point is obama has, john mccain hasnt .so dont talk to me about somebody making a cross in the dirt .when you have had every opportunity since then to profess your faith . i think mccain blames GOD for that experience

[leanbarton]

Why at all is this so shocking ....Did anyone really believe this so called faith forum wold be fair ...gimme a break....Total and complete set up for Obama ...who did a great job I thought even though none of this issue were in his favor!

[JakiiRSM]

I am stunned! I have to say that I watched this forum and immediately thought McCain was much to quick with his answers. He simply does not respond that spontaneous. And now learning this, it all makes sense. When finally we thought we had a forum to honestly see what these two guys can give us, it turns out to be rigged! I attend Saddleback, and am very upset over this whole thing. Yeah and if Rick thinks McCain was not watching Obamas answers, he is more naive' than I could have imagined.

[autoexradguy]

I am a McCain supporter, and even I will admit that this smells a little fishy. Also, when I watch the replay of McCain's interview, I see that he asks Pastor W. whether or not they're going to "get back to the subject of Supreme Court justices." even though the subject had not yet been brought up to J.M.

I would be curious to hear an argument defending J.M.

Anybody?

[ROPO5]

Bottom line? Pastor Warren wants to see McCain win. Lying and Cheating and using God to this end notwithstanding.

[mosfonotoc]

A:  YES. YES. AND FIND BAD TEACHERS ANOTHER LINE OF WORK.

Q: YOU ARE ANSWERING SO QUICKLY. YOU WANT TO PLAY A GAME OF POKER?

McCain cheated. There is no way around it.

[GatosGal]

Rick Warren. Plump self-satisfied Jerry Falwell clone. Smarmy smirk. Do I believe him? I do NOT.

[makfran1]

mccain big

[cls105]

and they're affraid of the "liberal media bias?" hypocrisy at its finest.

[sdante7]

oh my great good God,i just wanna think this is a dream.Even mcbush said he was trying to hear thru the wall when he watched almost the whole session.pastor Rick,,,come on,it did not have to be this way.u just damaged your trust among the american people.peace!

[gandy74]

And that pastor calls himself a Christian and lies bold faced to everyone!!! This forum was rigged in favor of Mccain!!

[yffac]

Cone of silence -- Or Limo with modern communications ---- Thy shall not bear false witness -- Rick Warren

[yffac]

Cone of silence -- Or Limo with modern communications ---- Thy shall not bear false witness -- Rick Warren

[GodLovesMcCain]

I can't believe this has happened. I watched the forum and believed it to be fair and I was surprised how nice people were to both sides. Now I find out it was entirely rigged. This is not the way the Church is supposed to operate. The Church should be above politics and yet I see it is not. I am ashamed to be called Evangelical today. Rev Rick has taken my belief in the Church and smashed it. Why did you bring this political mess into my Church?

My God is crying tonight. This is not His way.

[b1ueocean]

Church man lying through his teeth haha

that last question at 1:24 was an in joke!

[b1ueocean]

Bring on the debates.

Obama '08

[vinayorekondy]

This is revolting...I thought Pastor Warren was a good guy before this.

[OperaFanXXXOOO]

it is the devil's work to lie in a church to your congregation and before the nation of your church brethren it is an unthinkable unholy act of dishonor to God

[LandOfoz266]

BOLD FACED LIES TO HIS CONGREGATION AND ALL EVANGELICALS ACROSS AMERICA.  Who can trust those Hollywood Preachers. All about putting butts in the seats, not bringing God into people's hearts. SHAME ON THIS CHURCH!!!!!

[saully1966]

I hope God has a special place in hell for the self-righteous who claim to spread his word!

[pic103]

This election is rigged, so you mise well just vote for McCain anyway... Lets make this a landslide victory for McCain '08!

[michaelgj23]

"BOLD FACED LIES TO HIS CONGREGATION."

We don't know if Rev. Warren lied, but we clearly know that McCain wanted us to think that he could not have possibly heard the questions posed to Obama. We know that McCain had an unfair advantage, but at the moment we still don't know if he took advantage of it. My instinct tells me he did.

[jayrod59]

michaelgj23: We do to know that Rev. Warren lied. He said that a coin toss was performed and that Obama won it and that McCain was "put in a cone of silence" which implied to me that McCain was put into a soundproof room backstage. This was clearly a lie on Warren's part.

[ampdesign]

lie, cheat, and steal. all politicians, even, b.o., would do the same

[12oink12]

get what out there??

[GookMcCain]

Of COURSE I had the questions ahead of time. Are you people too stupid to realize this guy thinks it is more important to cheat than to let Obama win?? What's shocking is that I didn't do better, even with having the answers. I guess I'll really screw up the debates now.