M4A1 Recoil:

[sacr3]

KWA LM4 PTS wins over these two fellas

[gh0strec0n141]

i love that guy's facial expression when he's trying out the WA

[tiganhonda]

@gh0strec0n141 haha, its funny alright. :D

[nccrochet]

what recoil?

[chubbs636]

for the sake of airsoft as a sport please put airsoft in the tittle

[cwsport4]

Airsoft? Really?

[beeniestudios]

Why does everyone get Irish people mixed up with Scots?

[runefigter5RS]

BLASPHEMY! SCOTSMEN

[MyDoominateR]

@runefigter5RS

They're irish... Irish sounds fucking badass.

[MrNeilgoetze]

what is better the western arms gas blow back m4a1 or the agm m4a1 gas blow back someone please help?

[marineman825]

@MrNeilgoetze 

[marineman825]

@MrNeilgoetze ahahahaha the western arms for sure! THE AGM SUCKS ASS AND BREAKS LIKE 5 MINUTES AFTER UNBOXING IT the wa is the best gbb atm

[tiganhonda]

@marineman825 You couldnt be further from the facts, although the AGM is a little on the fragile side, The WA is just as bad, if not worse. G&P is where its at if you want something that is made to last.

[marineman825]

@tiganhonda no because the agm is the lowest quality on the market atm. the wa is a great m4. i havent had a problem with it and my whole airsoft squad hasnt had any either. we all except for 1 guy have wa m4 gbb rifles. the other 1 guy has a we m4 and those are the second worst

[tiganhonda]

@marineman825 I can assure you, as an airsoft technician that the WA is one of the softest out there. if you have one then you'll already know how soft the face of the bolt and the bolt stop itself really are. WE are a little temperamental alright, they take some setting up but with a few mods they can ge ok.

[marineman825]

@tiganhonda in my years of airsoft i have only had 1 problem with my wa. but i upgraded to a ra tech bolt so yeah. and also is the g&p woc x series any good? and if i get a we could i use an ra tech bolt and bolt carrier in it? like the open bolt design? also any recomendations on a mp5 gbb thats legal in the us?

[tiganhonda]

@marineman825 yeah the G&P is rally nice. All the internals are very well made and they last too. They are a little pricey but defo worth it. You can use ratech bolts in the WE yup, the WE bolt is decent though so i woudlnt really bother. its the bolt stop that you want more than an actual bolt carrier. Generally the WE guns are let down by build quality rather than the materials. Just stripping it down, cleaning, oiling and reassembling properly makes a huge difference. :)

[marineman825]

@tiganhonda on ehobbyasia(dot) c_o_m it says the g&p internals are extremely complex, i know what a normal and a gbb m4 internals look like and is the g&p like the normal gbb m4? or is it different? and also could you use an ra tech bolt in a kjw m4?

[NJtriple6]

Where the hell can i get an AGM M4 GBB!? everyone's sold out, everyone else requires paypal and i still haven't been able to get money into my account.

[SSBlingsA7x]

Is this hard to use in combat (with only 50 rounds)

[roadrashfly]

I LOVE his reaction at 0:47/ 1:08

[petik3333]

AGM is better but you buy better magazine.

[nakazatoGTR]

@petik3333 JG is better since my agm started to rattle, and one of its pins broke.

[ARX7ARBALESTZ7]

0:27, does anyone else besides me hear someone snore or snort?

[ZAC2994]

@ARX7ARBALESTZ7 ahaha yea i heard that

[headlesschicken6661]

hhmm AGM, hard to find those since China's crackdown on airsoft manufacturers.

[ObviouslyBoredKid]

He looked so excited shooting the little recoil airsoft gun haha. They are fun but once you feel the real crack of an AR15 you can never go back...

[PariahOfTheKOHLM]

@ObviouslyBoredKid

The only problem with that is you cannot shoot your friends with the real steel. Get both. Best of both worlds brother.

[ObviouslyBoredKid]

@PariahOfTheKOHLM i have a RAP4 paintball gun. im traning for the military so i want the real deal. you cant shoot airsoft or paintball at 500yds so using them is pointless.

[PariahOfTheKOHLM]

@ObviouslyBoredKid

I'm retired and not a RS snob, so I can say that I love shooting my chums with paintball/airsoft guns. Real steel has its' place, but the moment you can shoot your friends with one and not kill them I will consider dropping airsoft and paintball. Until then I will take ALL of them and have fun with ALL of them.

[ObviouslyBoredKid]

@PariahOfTheKOHLM Ok well thats what YOU will do. I will do what I wanna do. instead of running around with my toy ill go train and do speed drills using ballistic gel to simulate what a bullet does to the body. Thats the closest you can get to real combat and you can use real world combat distances. not just a maximum 60 yards

[masterjames0o7]

$700 down the shitter

[hayden2356]

Got agm for 110

[Devilock79]

AGM is pretty fucking awesome. Runs out of gas pretty quick but you might be able to get better mags. I heard AGM stock mags are shit. Anyway, I'm getting mine as soon as useless bastards BOI transfer my money to my Paypal account. lol 113 euros for the gun, 2000 Marui BBs, 2 mags and a sling from Redwolf Airsoft (about the only thing they have in stock)! Really looking forward to it!

[lacrossedefense]

@Devilock79 i found the agm for 200 bucks!!!!!!!(brand new) usually they would be 400-500 on ebay new

[masterjames0o7]

@lacrossedefense I FOUND ONE FROM AIRSOFT MEGASTORE FOR 155 OR 150 I BOUGHT IT AS SOON AS IT CAME IN STOCK HAHA

[supacrzer13]

Western arms is a lot better but agm has better value and if you upgrade the agm, youll still save money

[MrDanielbeaubien]

Where is the best place to get the AGM M4

[YFZ450Kid09]

@MrDanielbeaubien probly airsoft meagastore

[ATLDestroyer]

@YFZ450Kid09 Were do you find it there

[OverlordRaxusReaper]

@MrDanielbeaubien Redwolf sells it for $125 for the non RIS version, but if you want RIS it's extra 3 dollars.

[mcskatin]

Are those green gas or c02? I have the AGM one and I think I want a c02 magazine. Where can I get one?

[piketurell]

ahah what a fucking tard!..ahaha he can hardly use a fucking gbb m4!..ahah fail...and how did you prove what gun is better you dipshitts! ahah fail once again!

[callum154]

shut the fuck up you piece of shit

[piketurell]

ahah wow thats all you got you jail bait spit fuck bitch!..ahah bring it you little cunt ..why what are you gonna do shoot me with your airsoft gun!.XD ahah fuck off you douch nozzle!

[kinmanyuen]

got a G&P (fully upgraded wa basically)

It's a good investment if you look how much more it will cost when buying the parts seperately.

[tiganhonda]

The parts cost next to nothing from places like ebaybanned, PXairsoft etc etc and you can use a cheap as chips AGM as a base. defo the cheapest option. :)

[pointash123456789]

do yeah like dags?

[opmike343]

Fookin' pikeys

[maximevhw]

no i am not a total biginer it is my first gbb gun

agm or wa

[SuperFinnish]

we is the best.

[maximevhw]

whats the best agm or wa for a biginer

[K0RnFreEK111]

Considering the AGM is 1/3 the cost on a WA, go with it.

[l3utthead]

Neither...GBB takes a lot of money to maintain. There is also A LOT to learn. AGM might be cheap as first but it will get expensive...and fast...

[RyanPolak]

Gas blowback rifles are not for a beginner. If you're beginner, you'll need at least one AEG, then you can consider gas blowback rifle.

[TheCounter005]

I don't think this is necesarily true. Above all, the most important thing is that the user enjoy tinkering with the gun. You have to want to take the thing apart and find out how it works and where the vulnerable parts of the mechanism are. Figure out which parts will need frequent replacement. GBB guns are a different world from AEG, so you will more or less be starting from zero anyway, unless you're familiar with how GBB pistols work. It also doesn't hurt to have experience with real AR's.

[jjay3200]

agm

[maximevhw]

thx

[airsoftowns233]

first get a GBB Pistol.. lol u will learn alot from that to a GBB m4

[alberttheshit]

is it a low? or mid? or high cap mag..?

[mtnbike256]

A good idea is to go with one of the RA-Tech custom AGM M4s, which already have upgraded parts.

[SHUNT311]

I'll take the agm for under $150.00

[redneckMarine0]

at ehobby asia you can get this for 106$

[tiganhonda]

wrong.

you'll be looking at upgrading the receiver pins for anti rotation links. the bolt stop too would be a good idea and polish up the bolt carrier to make it more smooth. :)

[911airsoftdude]

wats the ammo capacity on the guns

[hkseo100]

what he said. (anti rotations are just waste of money actually) just get real-steel ar-15 pins. (i think .214 diameter)

they fit fine. with shipping (i did priority) it costs around $18 or so.

Do you really recommend polishing the bolt carrier??? With like steel wool or something?

I also have Inokatsu internals in mine haha. Steel trigger sear, hammer, safety, bolt catch ,etc etc.

and i also have a lot of real steel parts too in on my gun actually hand guard, grip, chraging handle, etc.

[psycotichobit]

if i get the agm what updrades would i need

[remphase67]

TIGANHONDA: just the expression of your face when you fired the AGM is all the sales talk I needed :-)

[alteclansig]

anyone heard of the acm gas m4?

[EmperorPalpa]

It's a copy of AGM. Chinese now copy Chinese LoL

[ailifelike]

hey tigan, just ordered an agm. thanks for the vid, helped me make up my mind!

cheers

[YouDiddntSeeAnything]

@ailifelike hello, when you ordered your AGM M4 GBB did it get through customs okay? and did you order it in two separate parcels? Also has the gun gone wrong, any leaks or anything? thankyou

[1airassault]

@YouDiddntSeeAnything hey YDSA! well im in the UK but i just got them to put my UKARA number and a statement about the package containing an airsoft replica

i have had a few bolt failures; the agm bolt and nozzle are plastic and have a tendency to snap off but i'd recommend getting an after market set from ebairsoft in HK. im pretty happy with mine overall for the price!

[Tiberiusbig]

So which one do you prefer?

[tiganhonda]

The AGM, its internals are made from stronger materials, i would still reccomend some upgrades but its a better gun out of the box and its a lot cheaper.

[airsoftaddictguy]

m4 bolts are soo sexy

[rocknrollcows]

My bad, I meant clone. It was 2am when I posted that comment.

I apologize!

[sch595]

Can u use the western arms mags in the AGM?

[rocknrollcows]

AGM is a exact WA copy, so yes.

[sch595]

thanks and is there is an american website where i could purchase one? please reply

[ARX7ARBALESTZ7]

yeah i wanna know a u.s. site that sells the AGM M4's too, too much shipping to buy from outside u.s.. plus you have the risk of the damn idiot u.s. customs that might confiscate your gun

[TheFallenHeroGuy]

It's not an "exact" copy. It's a Chinese clone. The dimensioning is slightly off. You can't change upper or lower receivers, or even bolts with the WA or the G&P

[tiganhonda]

You can. at least with the WA you can and they are the ones who designed it, i have swapped around the internals and receivers with no problems.

[kullwarrior]

not exact, some parts do not interchange (AGM are slightly out of spec of WA original)

[Achiliesguy21]

yes but you cant use it likewise, you cant use agm mags on a western arms gbb. . . . but western arms mags will work perfectly(better than the stock agm mag) on the agm gbb ^^

[tiganhonda]

As i said, both rifles are perfectly interchangeable, if you look at the video's you will see I have both of them to compare. I can assure you AGM mags work in the WA.

[mrgeo1024]

Hi, nice vid, which gas did u use?

[Kkr3wK]

AGM!

Harder blowback, faster ROF, ALOT cheaper, more accurate, higher FPS, longer range, and more reliable then the WA M4.

I'm not sure about the gas leaking. I didnt hear any problems about it yet. But If it does, buy a WA mag. Did hear it is better then AGM's and it will fit.

Make sure you get the RIS/RAS version! Its better quality then their older versions.

Their the same price I think. About $180 or $200.

[HardballPlayerDK]

Excellent! Thanks very much!!!

[Eagle249]

where can you get the agm one from?

thanks

[sinisterairsoft]

yeah agm is better but their mags leek gas like alot of the time. =(

[MajorLeagueHacker]

I heard the new gen mags dont leak =)

[HardballPlayerDK]

Hi, Cool comparaison of the AGM M4 and WA M4. i'm going to buy One, but wich one would you recommend ? wich one leaks less Gas when on FULL Auto and wich one has the hardest Blowback kick?. Thank you!

[HammerheadWOC]

neither G&P woc

[UnsatisfactionGuaran]

Well... AGM definitely wins, we could say.

Now things are right: a GBB should cost less than an AEG. Just because it's more simple.

[fdsa7777]

To get a GBBR working great (better than a PTW) it actually is more complicated than an AEG. AEGs are actually simpler because even though there are less parts there is less variation in those parts. A GBB is much more like a real rifle where there are plenty of different parts which all do different things yet can replace each other.

[P3t3rN9uy3n]

the g&p dif beats it out of the box but if you buy an agm and upgrade it would turn out alot cheaper and better, with exeption of trade marks and other small stuff like that

[driftinsti]

yea that's true.

[McMike321]

or an AGM with a good amount of upgrades and some extra mags

[Gravexero]

lol AGM = better. You can buy 3 AGMs for the price of 1 WA