that is awesome. Cob is a really amazing thing to work with as far as i know. I read alot about it. There are supposed to be some pretty amazing classes you can take in oregon to learn about it. We live on land with my boyfriends family. more and more it feels like a small community. We want to set up a pond area. I think if we just work on the space we have, we can all do fine working there together. Do you hunt your own food ever?
but now the economy is falling apart. how does one prepare to buy a house when oil depletion is inevitably going to destroy the economy. Im pretty young, but thats where is see things going. I hope im wrong, but i really dont think i am.
I don't know much about how the economy works but it stands to reason that when it collapses land prices will come down as well. One option is to buy land and build a house mostly out of materials that are on the land. That is the next step for us as we hope to build a variety of cob structures for our family on a plot a land we will purchase in the future. We are presently doing a test run on a cob meditation building we are building now.
In any case food will be of great value in the future and people who can grow food and have other skills will also be valued. There will inevitably be a return to homesteading so nature will make it possible for people to survive.
We were living in a 2 bedroom, cockroach infested apartment just 4 or 5 years ago so a homestead was just a distant dream. People usually achieved their goals as long as they plot a correct course, have a realistic goal and plan to achieve that goal and they keep with it.
It took ten years for us to end up on a homestead and really much longer then that when the idea first came. But each persons situation is different. What young people can do is set their goal early and not get themselves distracted with other financial burdens and debts. Land in the country is cheaper the farther you go out away from population centers. Young people must set their goal and then formulate a plan to reach that goal.
But I wonder truly what "natural" is...like homesteading and then posting a video blog on youtube. Or growing your own 'natural' food, that is watered with a contaminated source - traces of pharmaceuticals are in everything now. Don't get me wrong, I'm right there with you, but the idea or the real or natural is just a construction.
Thank you for your comment. When we refer to 'natural' in our way here at POTF, we are talking about working harmoniously with Nature. Our current culture, economy and general population view nature as something to exploit. We are all trained to bully nature. It is an abusive attitude that I believe comes from the faulty manifest destiny 'man has dominion over everything' way of looking at things.
It is our belief that human beings have both a higher and lower nature. The lower nature tends towards using force to impose one's desire on everything and everybody. This way brings quick results with disastrous results inevitably following later.
On the other hand, embracing one's higher nature guides one to live harmoniously using the vibrational field that one's inner Nature provides as guidance. Since abusive shortcuts are not considered an option, life is often more difficult physically and material struggles constant. However in the end life and, more importantly, people are better off and healthier.
I agree with your second point that living naturally with manmade contaminants pervading our environment is difficult but we believe here that we all are returning to living in a more natural way. That is the current trend and it is inevitable that it be so. People did not come to live unnaturally overnight. It took years to move humanity from harmonious living to the present world of chemicals, technology, cities and suburbia.
It will also take many years for people to go forward to a new natural way. It will also take years for the world to rid itself of all the manmade negative effects of unnatural living.
We post videos and blog as a way to share what we experience as the many blessings that have been given to us. As we did not just jump into this approach to life without some contact with others who live this way, we want to share in turn. YouTube and the internet offer a great way for lots of people to at least see this way of living and contemplate it for themselves.
At times videoing and blogging do take us away from where we need to be and we often find ourselves struggling to balance the demands of the natural and unnatural worlds that now coexist in our lives. However just as the first automobiles rolled off the assembly line caused many people to stare at them with suspicion, nowadays people are again being presented with a new paradigm that will create great change.
Sign me up!!! I am on the program. I would pay for this booklet. My wife and I want to move from the city to what you have as soon as we can. Do more videos like this. It is edifying and helpful to people like us that want the lifestyle you have achieved.
I wonder how many more of us are out here, not knowing how common our thoughts are, isolated by design, and searching for fellows. Good to see kindfolk out here speaking my thoughts and showing another way. I'm with John, and also very grateful for this work.
Sorry for the delay, John. We are escaping from behind the great Orange Curtain. (Orange County, California) We're looking in Indiana, Missouri, and Oregon.
Slightly off topic,(maybe not), Have you've been follow the financials of this country? I think we better make our move before the leaves on the trees change to full color. I think we are in for a bumpy ride.
Missouri has at least three ecovillages that I am aware of. Dancing Rabbit, Sandhill Farm, and Red Earth Farms are all close to each other. If you are looking for more families, as we are, ecovillages are like multi-family homesteads. They are well worth checking out. (Also check Earthaven, Lost Valley, and Emerald Earth.)
And yes, I follow the financial realm closely. I am aware of what is coming down on us and I agree that time is not our ally. The next 18 months will reveal a lot. There is a great unwinding taking place and the media is ignoring it where they can and lying about it where they must. We are in for a very trying time, John. And to be honest, I am scared and often wish I was blissfully ignorant of this.
that is awesome. Cob is a really amazing thing to work with as far as i know. I read alot about it. There are supposed to be some pretty amazing classes you can take in oregon to learn about it. We live on land with my boyfriends family. more and more it feels like a small community. We want to set up a pond area. I think if we just work on the space we have, we can all do fine working there together. Do you hunt your own food ever?
forestblood999 3 years ago
but now the economy is falling apart. how does one prepare to buy a house when oil depletion is inevitably going to destroy the economy. Im pretty young, but thats where is see things going. I hope im wrong, but i really dont think i am.
forestblood999 3 years ago
I don't know much about how the economy works but it stands to reason that when it collapses land prices will come down as well. One option is to buy land and build a house mostly out of materials that are on the land. That is the next step for us as we hope to build a variety of cob structures for our family on a plot a land we will purchase in the future. We are presently doing a test run on a cob meditation building we are building now.
pocketsofthefuture 3 years ago
In any case food will be of great value in the future and people who can grow food and have other skills will also be valued. There will inevitably be a return to homesteading so nature will make it possible for people to survive.
pocketsofthefuture 3 years ago
thanks. it all seems rather scary right now to try and hold onto any sort of hopeful future. but that advice is much appreciated.
forestblood999 3 years ago
We were living in a 2 bedroom, cockroach infested apartment just 4 or 5 years ago so a homestead was just a distant dream. People usually achieved their goals as long as they plot a correct course, have a realistic goal and plan to achieve that goal and they keep with it.
pocketsofthefuture 3 years ago
how is anyone young supposed to afford land to do that sort of thing?
forestblood999 3 years ago
It took ten years for us to end up on a homestead and really much longer then that when the idea first came. But each persons situation is different. What young people can do is set their goal early and not get themselves distracted with other financial burdens and debts. Land in the country is cheaper the farther you go out away from population centers. Young people must set their goal and then formulate a plan to reach that goal.
pocketsofthefuture 3 years ago
But I wonder truly what "natural" is...like homesteading and then posting a video blog on youtube. Or growing your own 'natural' food, that is watered with a contaminated source - traces of pharmaceuticals are in everything now. Don't get me wrong, I'm right there with you, but the idea or the real or natural is just a construction.
zubery 3 years ago
Thank you for your comment. When we refer to 'natural' in our way here at POTF, we are talking about working harmoniously with Nature. Our current culture, economy and general population view nature as something to exploit. We are all trained to bully nature. It is an abusive attitude that I believe comes from the faulty manifest destiny 'man has dominion over everything' way of looking at things.
pocketsofthefuture 3 years ago
It is our belief that human beings have both a higher and lower nature. The lower nature tends towards using force to impose one's desire on everything and everybody. This way brings quick results with disastrous results inevitably following later.
pocketsofthefuture 3 years ago
On the other hand, embracing one's higher nature guides one to live harmoniously using the vibrational field that one's inner Nature provides as guidance. Since abusive shortcuts are not considered an option, life is often more difficult physically and material struggles constant. However in the end life and, more importantly, people are better off and healthier.
pocketsofthefuture 3 years ago
I agree with your second point that living naturally with manmade contaminants pervading our environment is difficult but we believe here that we all are returning to living in a more natural way. That is the current trend and it is inevitable that it be so. People did not come to live unnaturally overnight. It took years to move humanity from harmonious living to the present world of chemicals, technology, cities and suburbia.
pocketsofthefuture 3 years ago
It will also take many years for people to go forward to a new natural way. It will also take years for the world to rid itself of all the manmade negative effects of unnatural living.
pocketsofthefuture 3 years ago
We post videos and blog as a way to share what we experience as the many blessings that have been given to us. As we did not just jump into this approach to life without some contact with others who live this way, we want to share in turn. YouTube and the internet offer a great way for lots of people to at least see this way of living and contemplate it for themselves.
pocketsofthefuture 3 years ago
At times videoing and blogging do take us away from where we need to be and we often find ourselves struggling to balance the demands of the natural and unnatural worlds that now coexist in our lives. However just as the first automobiles rolled off the assembly line caused many people to stare at them with suspicion, nowadays people are again being presented with a new paradigm that will create great change.
pocketsofthefuture 3 years ago
We feel that any available reference points with regards to this new paradigm will be of great service to people as we all move forward.
Again thank you for your comment and for giving us an opportunity here to clarify our perceptions and intentions.
pocketsofthefuture 3 years ago
Sign me up!!! I am on the program. I would pay for this booklet. My wife and I want to move from the city to what you have as soon as we can. Do more videos like this. It is edifying and helpful to people like us that want the lifestyle you have achieved.
Thank you.
Peace.
John.
Kittenkattan 3 years ago 2
I wonder how many more of us are out here, not knowing how common our thoughts are, isolated by design, and searching for fellows. Good to see kindfolk out here speaking my thoughts and showing another way. I'm with John, and also very grateful for this work.
PotSmokinFoo 3 years ago 2
Hey Brother!
If we get 8 families more we could start a community! I trying to get out of NYC. Where are you escaping from?
Peace.
John.
Kittenkattan 3 years ago 2
Sorry for the delay, John. We are escaping from behind the great Orange Curtain. (Orange County, California) We're looking in Indiana, Missouri, and Oregon.
PotSmokinFoo 3 years ago
I think Oregon is a better spot than Missouri.
Slightly off topic,(maybe not), Have you've been follow the financials of this country? I think we better make our move before the leaves on the trees change to full color. I think we are in for a bumpy ride.
Peace.
John.
Kittenkattan 3 years ago
Missouri has at least three ecovillages that I am aware of. Dancing Rabbit, Sandhill Farm, and Red Earth Farms are all close to each other. If you are looking for more families, as we are, ecovillages are like multi-family homesteads. They are well worth checking out. (Also check Earthaven, Lost Valley, and Emerald Earth.)
PotSmokinFoo 3 years ago
And yes, I follow the financial realm closely. I am aware of what is coming down on us and I agree that time is not our ally. The next 18 months will reveal a lot. There is a great unwinding taking place and the media is ignoring it where they can and lying about it where they must. We are in for a very trying time, John. And to be honest, I am scared and often wish I was blissfully ignorant of this.
PotSmokinFoo 3 years ago