since the strings play without vibrato, somehow i think the singers should sing without vibrato as well. or did beethoven indicate vibrato in the score for the soloists?
Kudos to the conductor for his tempo on the first movement. Accurate and the ONLY speed at which that movement should EVER be played. At the typically slower tempos, it loses much of its energy and power.
The fourth movement is played too fast at key spots, though.
@MiloDC I had the pleasure of watching Benjiman Zander conduct, and opine on some of the Ninth. His opinion was that most Conductors misinterpret Beetoven's time signatures. I am not anyone to even offer my thoughts on this, but after listening to the passages, they sure seemed "right to me", and he was pretty lively in his tempo.
too fast. it lacks gravitas. as for period instruments the very reason instruments evolved since then was the demands put on them by composers like L v B.
So playing them on the instruments that the composers themselves found inadequate defeats the purpose.
@az111za hahaha :) Brilliant question and you are right. Many people skip the fact that all Beethoven symphonies were indeed composed during the 1st quarter of the 19th century. I suppose back then the instruments were not radically changed so they could still execute a music of the early 19th century with the instruments of 18th. However, I can not help thinking that this music suits to 'better' (stronger, more polished etc.) instruments.
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gelizon 1 week ago
truly celestial
amonibi1938 1 week ago
is immer scheiße...... wenn ich anfange muss ich immer bis zum schluß hören...... :-)
zamomin25 3 weeks ago
Una música celestial
SUPERDANIEL465 3 weeks ago
こじんまりした編成であるが密度高く終始緊張感のある素晴らしい演奏です。棒は極めてわかりやすくドイツ精神主義とも言える端正で明快な印象でした。AAAランクだと思います
campkono 1 month ago 3
since the strings play without vibrato, somehow i think the singers should sing without vibrato as well. or did beethoven indicate vibrato in the score for the soloists?
eek4rus 1 month ago
Kudos to the conductor for his tempo on the first movement. Accurate and the ONLY speed at which that movement should EVER be played. At the typically slower tempos, it loses much of its energy and power.
The fourth movement is played too fast at key spots, though.
MiloDC 1 month ago
@MiloDC I had the pleasure of watching Benjiman Zander conduct, and opine on some of the Ninth. His opinion was that most Conductors misinterpret Beetoven's time signatures. I am not anyone to even offer my thoughts on this, but after listening to the passages, they sure seemed "right to me", and he was pretty lively in his tempo.
edwarddelbar 1 month ago
I do not know but to me it seemed like a running a too accelerated.
Compared to Muti and Abbado have recovered nearly ten minutes.
And 'my impression.
I extend a greeting to all.
maccrodes 2 months ago
see the nice version here...
youtube.com/watch?v=EmV35VPRT9s
obtica1 2 months ago
O_O TOO FAST!
astartot 2 months ago
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AlkaroSmb 2 months ago
Symphonie n° 9 en ré mineur opus 125*
La Chambre Philharmonique (sur instruments d'époque)
Emmanuel Krivine
Sinéad Mulhern (soprano*)
Carolin Masur (mezzo-soprano*)
Dominik Wortig (ténor*)
Konstantin Wolff (basse-baryton*)
Choeur de chambre Les Eléments*
Cité de la musique (Paris, France)
17 avril 2011
PapaJohnXXIV 2 months ago
La Chambre Philharmonique
Emmanuel Krivine conductor
Sinéad Mulhern (soprano*)
Carolin Masur (mezzo-soprano*)
Dominik Wortig (ténor*)
Konstantin Wolff (basse-baryton*)
"Les Eléments" Chamber Choir
Location : Cité de la musique (Paris, France)
Broadcasting date : 04/17/2011
PapaJohnXXIV 2 months ago
this is a work of beauty
mario32414 2 months ago
Muy buena intrepretacion a excepcion de los tiempos imtermedios como que se pierde el enfoque en la obra....y por cierto adoro a la Timbalista !!! .
drojaz1 2 months ago
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figaro0127 2 months ago
Brilliant! It was time to stop playing Beethoven as if he were Bruckner. and to read the scores and see what speeds Beethoven really wanted.
sapelnikov 2 months ago
Maybe Beethoven meant less gravitas and more fire....and I love the female timpanist!
psalmtone2008 3 months ago
too fast. it lacks gravitas. as for period instruments the very reason instruments evolved since then was the demands put on them by composers like L v B.
So playing them on the instruments that the composers themselves found inadequate defeats the purpose.
oh yes
first movement is TOO FAST
Strefanasha 3 months ago
Isn't it a bit too fast?
It's only 63 minutes, and it doesn't seem there's something missing...
cga73 4 months ago
@cga73 yes, the soul of the music, like all these so called period performances. They all sound out of tune to me.
mrrk 3 months ago
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cga73 4 months ago
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cga73 4 months ago
I want to ask a question, the orchestra is using 18th century instruments while this symphony was written in the 19th century ?!
az111za 4 months ago
@az111za hahaha :) Brilliant question and you are right. Many people skip the fact that all Beethoven symphonies were indeed composed during the 1st quarter of the 19th century. I suppose back then the instruments were not radically changed so they could still execute a music of the early 19th century with the instruments of 18th. However, I can not help thinking that this music suits to 'better' (stronger, more polished etc.) instruments.
cagin 4 months ago 2
@cagin
yes, you are right :), Beethoven's music is more effective with our contemporary instruments, thanks so much for replying me :)
az111za 4 months ago
@az111za Was there any dramatic change in instruments between the two centuries? I don't think so.
petur777 4 months ago
@petur777
okay, then when exactly the present instruments where started to be used??
az111za 4 months ago