Hillary Clinton is the eldest of three and has two YOUNGER brothers. I think this is the reason why she is so powerful. We need more Hillarys and (Meryls, who is of the same birth order) don't you think? So if your first child happens to be a girl, and your second child a boy, then have a third child. Hopefully he is a boy.
Well, Kumbaya! I guess HC said what she needed to say. Now if Bill will only keep his mouth shut.
Also, I really think MC needs to pick a female for his VP. This is the only possible way he can attract a significant number of voters currently in the Obama camp. I don't know how many he can attract, but there would definitely be some. I say KB Hutchison. Palin (Alaska gov) would be excellent but no nat'l name recognition. Condi to closely associated w/Bush.
She's a very smart and kind woman, but I think Obama would be a much better president. I have nothing ageist her but can't she just give up already? Obama won, its over. Its actually a good speech up until 3:03.
What's up with 4:22 - 4:28???? Is that some crazy subliminal mind @$#%??? I can't stop thinking of Hillary now. My girlfriend is coming over in a ten minutes. This isn't good.
And all botcub has and ever had were false information and attacks. Sounds like someone else. No praise of your chosen candidate McCain. No description of why he truly is the better candidate. Just attempting to energize Hillary voters again Obama on some fool's errand. If I were to stoop to your lame attempts at ad hominem, I'd just refer to your other posts. I need go no further than that. Continue your rant please. Show us all your powerful arguments.
If she loves this country as much as she claims, then she will take a big part in sculpting our future regardless of her position. IF you love her so much, then support her always to do her best, but dont try to destroy what democrats have been working towards for so long. A country of values for the people, by the people. Not some wealthy few. Why do i bother, you are set in your ways. do as you wish.
Like a die-hard sports fan,it burns to find out that your fave player of your team is out.are you to spoil this team's destined victory because it doesn't fit your requirements? clinton didnt get a homerun... but life isnt over for her. Whether or not she wins the presidency, she will not suddenly vanish.
i can't imagine why someone would vote for a completely opposite future because of their choice not making the cut. WHAT ARE YOUR VALUES, BOTCUB4U? do you even comprehend the world your people are trying to invoke with mccain as pres? he can't even give a geniune smile...do you ever wonder why? you are so rash to doom this country's commoners... who do you think you are! such self-indulgent comments of discontent.
BEGONE! This horrid, pathological, perverse, dirty, disgusting, maniacal sickness called Clinton's Porno for Power. Get Gone!
Thank you God for ridding us of Bushs & Clintons... at long last. When goodness finally triumphs over these sick evil political fucks for at least 4 years... Hallefuckinglujah!
actually before Bill was president, Hillary was more succesful career wise than him. She pushed herself very hard as a woman, and as a human being in general, and is forgiving to her husband at the same time. She's a great role model to women
You got me! I Wikipedia her work history. Hillary worked for a prestigous Arkansa Law Firm and served on the boards of Arkansa based companies such as Walmart and Lafarge.
She was making way more money than Bill. By monetary means she was more successful than Bill. Being a lawyre is way harder than becoming Govenor of a State.
I am sure Hillary earned those jobs and Bill being Govenor of the State for 12 years had no influence whatsoever.
Oprah, is a Self Made Woman! Nancy Polosie or Margaret Thatcher if you like a political example!
Hilary is not! She married her way to the top!
I can't think of a more non feminist that Hilary! She is a poor example for young women.
She knew since February she lossed and continue on how embarrassing!
When every last vote has been cast not to congratulate the winner, is just petty! Obama made history that night, Hilary refused to get out of history way! Thats her legacy!
What? Are we supposed to support candidates because they might be in History books? I would hope it would be because of what they've done as presidents, and not because of who they are; a black man or a woman. So I cant comment in her getting in the way of him making history because that would put me in the same position as people who actually vote for Hillary just because she's a woman, or people who've voted for Barrack just because he is black.
I didnt vote for her. And sure I can see how she could use her Last name to get to that position, but you act like its uncommon. Bush for example, is the son of a former President and that recognition could have helped him win.
This doesnt need to be a Obama vs Hillary issue, I was just saying Hillary did well for herself and has paved the way for women who maybe otherwise thought such a position would be impossible for them. Im not even a woman and I say this
Obama nobama, you know what went ona! Please come ona, you joined in with your big momma. Yow went to your church and agreed with the creed, when word got out you rana & fell to your knees! You touted, I no agree, and spouted let me be free, from the church I don't need. Obama no bama we no wanna!
What a totally delusional NUTBAG Hillary turned out to be. Staying in this race and pouting, taunting and eventually showing her craziness was the worst possible thing for her, but the best thing for our country. She just MIGHT get that ambassador to Poland job afterall.
I don't see how a person can go from Clinton to McCain. It's not "Them" your voting for it's the policies they are trying to implement. Obama and Clinton have almost the same policy.
Going from Clinton to McCain is like a Jewish person that can't get saturdays off work saying "Fine, If I can't get Saturday Off, I'm going to become a Neo-Nazi Athiest"
This isn't a personality contest between Rep. & Dem. They have very different views on how the country should work.
Where do you people get your info from to vote for President? MSM Your all SHEEP. WAKE UP and do your own research into your candidates. The right person for the Presidency is RON PAUL. Go look at his record and what NOT the MSM feeds you in your living room brainwashing session. STUPID SHEEP
I am laughing my ass off. You Dems are pathetic. You are eating your own. Within these comments Hillary supporters are threatening to vote for McCain if Obama doesn't name her as VP. You want her to run as an independent. (SURE WIN for McCain). This bitch just needs to STFU and sit down.
I read about Florida and Michigan delegates and people being outraged about why Obama received any delegates at all. Why did Hilliary started advocating for Florida and Michigan after it became clear she will need those delegate to boost her argument about her being more electible. If she is the real champion of democracy she should have fought for them before the votes were being casted and why did she agreeed to not campaing in both those states.
I'm talking crap about her because he can't. I know he respects her but I doubt that she really respects him. Her refusal to conceed to the nomination on the night he reached the proper delicate count left a nasty taste in our mouths. So he has to be Presidential and say what is best for the party publically. But I would love to be a fly on the wall in the privacy of OBAMA's home.
We are just as passionate for OBAMA as you ridiculous people are for Hillary. So don't call us idiots, we realize how important this election is and would never choose McCain over any Democrat.
if you are then you should knw he repsects hillary and her fight to the end. u calling us ridiculous, you are somewhat idiodic when your passionate about obama, yet you talk crap about hillary when OBAMA, THE PERSON YOU ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT, isnt doing that..... he knws she fough hard, and it would be aqward if she fough it all the way to august, but id bet you obama fans would do the same thing if he was in the same position. I RESPECT BOTH, But its not right not to respect both.
U idoits are probably barack obama fans, well guess what hed tell you to shut the hell up because he said that the party cant unite without hillary clinton. she's a fighter and now john mccain;'s after her supporters, respectfully, i congraudate him, but the facts he should not have gotten any delegates from michigan he took his name off by request and thats not fair that she worked her as... and you call youselfs democrats, when you are suppose to lok at both the obama and hillary
Obama=37 ... The numbers above represent the total times each candidate used the words "I,me,my" or their own names, during their respective speeches. They spoke at roughly the same pace and Obama's speech was roughly 6 minutes longer than the others.
Part of why Clinton lost is her pathological self-centeredness. She cares more about herself getting ahead than party unity.
Now we have to give her a few days to..face reality! As a president..you won't get a few days to face the truth...that 3:00am phone call needs to be answered now!Hillary can't say...please call back when I can handle this!
She talks a strong game..but in reality the media is walking on eggs..trying to give her some space!
First of all, she is the wrong woman to be supporting. She does not reflect me in any way nor what I want to be. Didn't she say that she'll do everything to support Obama once she loses? Well, why isn't she??? This woman is driving me crazy. It's June 2008!!!Isn't it time to unify under one party to beat McCain? How long are we going to be fighting within? Isn't this suppose to be about fighting the Republicans? If we don't wake up, we will lose in November.
Randy: I wasn"t feelin' it, dog. ur just ok. Dawg pound!, what-da-ya think? America looks bored.
Paula: u hv nice polyester pant suit. i think my grandmother has that same one. Mail order?
Simon: that was just dreadful. it was like being @ the supermarket & hearing that loud cryin', whinin', tantrum-throwin' kid for hours & all u wnt 2 do is slap da brat. u didn"t make an old political platform sound new. it's a "no vote" to denver or 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500.
"It's just now being reported that she will be suspending her campaign on Friday and endorsing OBAMA. I will believe it when I see it and hear it."
That would be amazing given the level of narcissism and lust for power this woman has exhibited over the course of the last 6 months. Hopefully she will calm down her hysterical supporters too and drill it into their peabrains that voting for McBush to get revenge on Obama is the most self-defeating thing anyone could possibly do.
I know, isn't this one of the the most pathetic shameful situations you have ever witnessed. Like I said before vote for whom you choose but at least let the vote make sense. What do they think McCain is going to do for them? This is all about spite and will bite us all in the butt if her supporters follow through with this foolishness.
to make a speech about you (instead of who is best for the country, congratulate Senator Obama on the presidential nomination or unite the democratic party) & to imply that you're going bargain for the VP on the ticket (like a NFL player holding out for a contract re-negotiation) was disrespectful & a new low for her (cough, "psycho bitch"). She claims she has experience, she's "politics as usual". For the safety of the White House aides, no hiliary (& billy c) for VP.
This bitch is whacked. Obama is the nominee and this power hungry fruit loop is still powertrippin' and thinks she should make demands. Just go away already and take your bimbo addicted husband with you.
Hitlery threatens to be tied to the convention podium!!!!
We want to be DONE with Hitlery already! She has been SO pathetic and SO stubborn, The Turd Bloosom will not even admit defeat when it's obvious! Hitlery should not be given the VP position, that should belong to someone that OBAMA picks. The VP position is not a consession prize for the runner up. NO MORE HITLERY! CONCEDE COW!
To say you would not vote for Obama if Hillary didn't get the nomination, is admitting you didn't really care about the issues to begin with. If you like Hillary's stand on the issues, then you like Obama's, because they are almost identical. For those of you who say you would vote for McCain if Obama wins, then you were never a Democrat. What a shame some people vote on personality, race or gender, instead of looking at what really counts.
please... tell me of hilary's experience. Her rich family lifestyle? or her experience on saying that she has experience. Obama has built himself from the ground up, helping people, putting real change into effect. No glamour, just hard work, dedication, and speaking fro the heart.
Hey Pan, I wrote ahile back comparing HRC exper. vs Obama. Clear fact is politically they have the same years of experience. she spent 16 yrs for the law office and 8 as First Lady which had no Natioanal Security Clearance. She was given the Health Care issue by Bill, botched that with her secrecy, and was a Goodwill Ambassador for 8 yrs. The women embellished every exper issue in her campaign. The right person won, lets get the Dems in
Everyday that this situation is not resolved we are waisting time. And Hillary continuing to ignore OBAMA'S victory is not helping the party out at all. McCain is gonna have more than he should to throw at OBAMA in the gerneral election thanks to HRC. She is gonna have to pay a serious price for that.
The best bet Maingee and AboveAllNations is to just keep feeding this troll and others like it so the obvious level of zealotry will keep coming up. It clearly shows the lack of reason and rationality in their position and helps more normal people remove themselves from Hillary's camp. You can either try to rationalize and calm their anger, or whip a few of them up into a frenzy to scare off the others. Given that Obama's trying reason, the rest of us can try the other.
I have tried to stay to the facts but now you are getting personal, it shows your inmaturity! You just have to accept that Hillary voters will not be supporting Obama. Plain and simple, for all the detailed reasons I have stated herewith in all these numorous postings. I have to go now because the Hillary volunteers are being called to an important meeting regarding a possible independent run. Have a good day and I wish you and Obama well..
I agree IQof20 why am I still feeding this monster? I guess it's because I see our chance to regain this country is going down the drain. Why they don't get that it's not about her are her supporters is beyond me. This country is already in a mess and why they want to further complicate this matter is ridiculous.
They aren't going down the drain Maingee. This is political strategy and tactics. Help people see the truth, or help them be uncomfortable being associated with the lie. Botcub may just be an angry voter (I've met a few lately) so let it pass. Regardless, Hillary's strategy is to stop Obama from winning, so just try to figure out the best way to neutralize her threat and go with it. Compromise won't work. She only attacks. A lesson learned from Newt Gingrich. The wrong lesson.
Am I surpised at her and her supporters behavior? HELL NO! This just proves that it's all about her political ambitions and not fighting for the country. I knew I was right about her and people have said for a long time that she was all about herself. I know the Republicans are loving this. Democrats never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
If Hillary genuinely wants to be VP, how does she expect Obama to pick her if she makes it transparently obvious that she's blackmailing him into it? Obama can't do it now, because she's leaked all of this information to the media and it'd make Obama look weak. He can't reward her for her petulance - Obama would be better served ignoring Hillary and her baggage / drama, and the vocal minority of her angry, racist, post-menopausal supporters.
Botcub4u: Hillary already owes 11 million, so she CAN NOT run as an independent. The primary is over - Obama is the nominee, and it will be Obama vs. McCain in November. What, exactly, do you want??? What does "acknowledge" or "respect" for you people mean? Obama complimented Hillary in his speech, conceded delegates to her in two fraudulent elections (when he had the ability to get much more out of the FL/MI compromise), and he's forgiven Bill's racism / her speculation on his assassination.
First of all it is not 11 million. Second she certainly can run as an independent. Third, we don't like Obama. I thought I made what I wanted clear many posts ago. Hillary run as independent and her supporters have who they want to vote for, and if not and we really don't like Obama, then we either vote for McCain or not at all. It is our privilege to use our vote anyway we please, just as you will. Sorry if you don't like it but thats the way it is
Correct it is not 11 million. It is nearly 20 million. She can run as an Independent, but she won't. It is your privilege to use your vote in an irresponsible manner just as it is my privilege to use mine in a responsible one. Server her quest for power not your country and (as I actually *HAVE* made clear) you continue to prove my point.
Lsten, your facts are as bourgeoisie as your dim wit. It is not irresponsible to vote for who I choose to represent me as President. It would however be irresponsible for me to vote for someone I do not trust, like, respect, or believe in his empty promise, or his lack of experience, the list goes on. I have never supported Obama, and I don't understand why is it such a surprise that most of Hillary's supporters will not vote for him.
Further:You have only proven that you are not capable of understanding human nature and people. So its either an independent run for Hillary or an all out push for McCain who is a man of experience and integrity.
Furter more Bill Clinto never has and never will be a racist, what bull. and never speculated such a thing, how naive, do you believe all the spins the media puts on this stuff.
When has he not acknowlegde her? He was very gracious to her and what she stands for in his speech last night. She and her supporters are the ones being disrespectful and not acknowledging his victory. I can see her negatives just raise higher and higher than they already are.
He had to acknowlede her. He had no choice, because he needs her support and her voters. No disrespect from her or us, she/we are just deciding what she should do next, and an idependent run is on the table and her volunteers have gotten it throuth the grapevine that it is under consideration. That is what her supporters want, and we have every right to ask for it, this is a free country.. Go Hillary.....
And there it is maingee. They will *never* acknowledge it. It will *never* be enough. If he offers her VP, then he should have offered her President. Botcub, you offer nothing but talking points and electrons of spin. Your anger isn't justified, but it is valid. I do plan to see what happens in November and it will prove to me if Hillary is willing to sacrifice for her country or if she's just someone after the brass ring. I know your vote on that.
Sounds like you are the angry one. I am not angry, I just want my candidate of choice to be the choice I can vote for in November, if that means she runs as an idependent so be it. This is polotics in the grown up world..
That is why many people wanted her to get out of the race when the math didn't favor her, because we knew in the end it would worsen all these hard feelings. Her plan was to ruin him and it looks like shes off to a good start. I hope in November her supporters come to their senses.
Botcub, as I council all of the companies I consult for: Never confuse your marketing message with the truth. 18 million then doesn't equal 18 million later. You want him to crawl to her and acknowledge her power, which is exactly what *she* wants. To be told she has power and to show her she has power. At every turn you support my statements. Perhaps you should stop posting or attempt to change the subject again.
I would like her to run as an independent in November so her supporters have a candidate they can vote for, we do not want Obama. Plain and simple.. For the reasons I have stated all over this page. I understand that this will cause McCain to win, but most of the 18 million do not want to cast a vote for Obama. You will see in November.
Yes, we all will see in November if anyone other than yourself, Hillary and Bill are so rabidly after her own claim to power that you will sacrifice an opportunity to truly energize and renew the electorate and the political process in an effort to claim power for yourselves. The duty of a leader is to follow the policy of "self sacrifice". If Hillary is a leader, then she must sacrifice her own desires for glory at this time. But she (and you) won't.
Who says he will energize and renew the electorate and the political process, they will eat him alive. Do you tink he will walk in and they are all going to role over and play dead. He already owes many superdelagates more than we can afford. More to come
No, the duty of a leader is to do what they feel is the right course of action for the country and Obama is not. If Hillary is the leader I think she is she will make a run as an independent, because she/we know she is the one that is best equiped to make things right. This is not about glory its about the best person for the job. I guess you and I and the rest of the world will just have to wait and see what happens, but I would advise Obams not to get tooo comfortable.
Oh how educated and worldly, you council companies, wow!! hoiw exciting!!! Point is, he needs to acknowledge her and her voters or he will suffer the repercussions in November, now that's a marketing fact. After debating with all of you Obama supporters I see you don't understand life very well, so it's no surprise you are not seeing him as the empty promise that he is.
Hillary does not have the popular vote, that is a lie. Both primaries and caucuses are "popular" votes, not just the primaries. If she'll lie on that point what else? Besides which, what are "electorates"?
Regardless, she has 18 million voters behind her, without those voters Obama can not win, don't you people get it, do you think we are just going to vote for him becase he won the Dem. primary.. Duh.. If we wanted him we would have voted for him akreadt. Why would we vote for someone we don't like. Most of us see McCain as a good choice, and as I have said before this is American land of the free, & the 18 million will vote how we want. Obams I wouldn't get my hopes up. "You're not the one"
botcub, what are you some white supremist or something? hey, i am white but i am not prejudice like that...you have a candidate that shares Hill's views but yet you act like you hate him..what is your deal? you make no sense at all..don't know why i am wasting my time on this really...you're obviously deranged
How dare you, I am anything but that.. I am a minority and fully understand these issues. It is simple, it is about his experience, empty statements of change and how he is get it done, inexperience, he is not what he appears to be thats why Hillary voters don't like him and will not vote for him. Plain and simple. We don't want him, and if Hillary decides not to run as an independent, we will vote for what we see as the next best choice, and that is McCain. Sorry if you don't agree
I'm from the UK and I can see these things, how can you not? Over here, we listen to POLICY and ISSUES and on these two things Clinton and Obama are EXACTLY THE SAME. Experience is useless if it hasn't taught you anything as it obviously hasn't with McCain (Bush3) If McCain is voted in, the rest of the World will sideline the US worse than we have already. Politics in the US is already a laughingstock and you want to exascerbate that further?
Gridfire, No disrespect, but you are still bowing to a queen, and thats the tip of the iceberg. Please, before you try to take the speck out of my eye remove the rafter from yours. Thanks but no thanks
No disrespect taken bot. I'm actually a republican in the sense that I do not like having an unelected head of state no matter the fact that she has no political power whatsoever. So personally I'm not "bowing to a Queen" and I'm not a subject of hers anyway. I'm a citizen of the United Kingdom and the only power I have to bow to is that of the elected government. No speck or plank in my eye thankyou.
Hillary supporters who refuse to vote for Obama and would rather vote McCain are bitter, vapid cunts. Seriously, grow the fuck up! "Wahh wahh my candidate didn't win so I gonna vote for someone who doesn't remotely share my views!" Crybabies, the lot of ya.
watch the language- there is no use to resort to school yard bully tactics and potty mouth antics. I agree to not vote because of sour grapes and send this wonderful country further down the drain is ridiculous, but can not condone you choice of words.
I also want to say that if Hillary runs as in independent and that costs a Democrat the election, I, among others, will be very, very disillusioned and frankly, angry. Why would you split votes between two people who share almost identical views? It has become about who SHE is now, not about what she wants America to become & sorry, that is just wrong.
Hillary Supporters: I can understand your disappointment, sure. Please, please assure me, though, that you would NEVER vote for McCain over Obama. Obama & Clinto share almost identical views on every important issue. Why wouldn't these 18 million Clinton supporters now support Obama? It is the only choice that makes sense regardless of who is VP. The issues have not changed--there is just a different person than who you wanted to represent them. McCain is an illogical choice for any Dem.
I will just say this, Obama needs to recognize Hillary and her voters. We are moving toward trying to get her to run as an idependent. We do not like Obama and his false fall from the sky message. It looks like Hillary may run as an independent from what her staff is telling the volunteers. We shall see..
Look you crazy ass fucker, I never said we didn't need her supporters and neither did OBAMA. He has been very respectful to her and her supporters, it's you Hillary supporters that are acting like ASSES. I see your point from a political stance but I don't think he should be punked into choosing her. Let him make the decision, and if you don't like what I have to say don't talk shit to me through a keyboard, just move your dilutional ass on to the next comment.
I see by your comments exactly what Obama supporters are like from you comments. Very educational. You replyed to me, and now you don't like what I have to say, well too bad. Yes he can make his own dicission but has to kow that if its not what the 18 million want he won't be elected. These are facts that no one can dispute. This is america and we will vote as we see fit. I see an independant run in Hillarys future. I think it would be great, this is what America was built on.
No I responded in general on the board to what you had said, you hit me up personally and made your displeasure known. You keep saying she has 18 million voters, he has just as many as she does and we didn't want her ass either. But voting for McCain is stupid, because what issues does he represent of yours? This is all about spite and your gonna make yourselves and a whole lotta people miserable all because you all are sore losers.
Hillary is not going to accept the VP spot and is trying publically to seek it while not seeking it. She and Bill will snipe from the sides as softly yet firmly as possible to shut down Obama's chances in an effort to grab the nomination in 2012. They'll be careful at this point to keep their hard-core voters satisfied (no groveling) and pursue this nomination again.
Look, I know you don't like what I have to say, and that is fine you can vote your way and we 18 Million will vote our way.. And yes Obama has just as many votes but without ours to add to the pile he Can Not win in November. This is a fact. Unless Obama acts like we feel he should we will see to it he des not win the election in November, becase as it stands now we don't want him. Sorry, but you may have to live with McCain. Isn't life a bitch!! How profound.....
You're welcome, its nice to see how much better Hillarys supporters were brought up. Respectful. I honestly think Hillary should make a run as an independent. She is the only one who can effect the change we need. I know that Obama is not capable. Hillary please run as an independent, even if you lose you will give us a real candidate to vote for in November.
I agree botcub. Please reinforce that she is more concerned with her own success than truly supporting the nation. Not just the party, but the nation as a whole. But she will not run as an independant. She will wait and plan to pick up the reigns in 2012.
I don't agree with that, Hillary is concerned for this country as a whole, her supporters do not want Obama, so she will either run as an independent or let Obama stew in his own juices when McCain wins the election.
But you *do* agree with that. If she believes in her positions, then she should be gracious and truly work to help the winner of this campaign (Obama). You want her to act exactly as I have stated. You want to punish us w/ McCain in the hopes she can get elected later. You're being naive to seek an independent run. Just follow what I've said and undermine Obama at every turn and let her take her shot in 2012. And prove exactly what I've said to be 100% correct.
If Hillary supporters vote for McCain in the fall, it will be out of spite or stupidity. Obama and Hillary agree on so many important issues--choosing to vote against the Democratic Party in the fall would either be a purely racist or a purely selfish decision. That's a fact.
The notion of not voting for OBAMA to hurt him is crazy. Your really screwing yourself and tells the "real Democratic party" just how unloyal, crazy, and scandalous you are. Go ahead and vote for McCain and see where that gets you. Only Hillary and her supporters would be such poor pathetic sore losers. McCain represents none of your issues but your gonna vote for him to spite OBAMA, thats good thinking I guess you all have not suffered enough. But make good on your plan, just wait you will.
Hillary Clinton sucks...I can't believe this!!! She refuses to respect the fact that the democratic party will nominate the first African American for president. This is crazy !!! I really don't think she is fighting for the american people,I think she is fight for SELFISH AMBITION
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Listen, Obama can not shine Hillary's shoes. Her and her voters better be respected or its a republican vote we will all cast. Obama needs our votes to win.. I think Hillary should run as an independent and mess Obama up big time... HaHa...
you clearly an idiot u think hillary is stupid enough to run as an independent, she doesnt give to fucks about u and she prove it by not going to da convention... she a smart business person and not stupid enough like u ppl to think she will run as an independen hahaha oh dat the funniest thing i ever heard
I'm an idiot?? Read what you just wrote and maybe you'll consider going back to school to get an education.. Your comments are null and void since you are an Illiterate. People like you should not speak let alone vote.
Calling all Hillary supporters, now that she is out of the race, let's join in support of the next best hope a man of experience and integrity, John McCain. We all know that Obama is a phony, empty promise, no experience man. He has yet to back up all his change promises, never says how he will make this great change. He is not the one. Wet behind the ears. No character, he gave up his pastor, church, now salutes the flag and wears a lapel pin because it's politically expedient. Phony!
Just keep proving you and your candidate's quest for power will sacrifice America and anyone who doesn't follow lockstep with you Botcub as you have been doing this entire thread. Please keep posting. No need to discuss anything with you other than you continued ranting about burning the house down around ourselves because you cannot paint it the color you want.
Oh, and if you keep calling for her to run as an Independent, then I guess that makes you a McCain supporter attempting to energize people (who won't listen to you) to support your person and start some completely ill-conceived 3rd party run. In that situation, you are a fool and only hoping bigger fools will follow you. Hillary is not a fool. She is many things, but not that.
Not true, Only want someone I can trust with experience and intergrety in the position of president, not a phony who makes decisions because its politically expedient, and touts empty promises
Like McCain? Look. It is now obvious you're a McCain supporter and have been outed. Just go support your candidate honestly. It does no justice to yourself or others to perform this task. If McCain is the best candidate, then honor him through your best and most honorable work. Not false-premise internet posting.
Now I am positive your IQ is really 20.. Is it so inconceivable that someone who supported Hillary would now believe that McCain is the next best choice? NO of course not, not if they had a brain. For your information I was a volunteer on Hillary's campaign. Just get it through you low IQ brain that I do not simply vote for someone because they are a democrat. That kind of thinking is evident of your low IQ and stupidity. If I felt Obama was any good I would have supported him previously
botcub4u, if you volunteered with Hillary's campaign what is your reasoning for supporting McCain if not based on a grudge? I'm not saying that you should automatically vote Democrat, but Obama's policies line up with hers 95% or more....it astounds me that so many HRC supporters are threatening to vote for McCain; it seems like cutting off your nose to spite your own face.
I have never trusted Obama & his empty promises, & his inexperience is of great concern, and above all his decisions regarding his pastor, church, saluting the flag, and wearing a lapel pin. More to come
He first stated he couldn't leave his pastor, he did, he couldn't leave his church, he did, he didn't need to salute the flag, he does now, he didn't need to wear a lapel flag, he does now, all these things he did, not because of his conviction, but because it was politically expedient. As well, I do not for one moment believe that someone is a member of a church like that for as many years as he was, unless they endorse the church, and pastors opinion and views. It disgusts me!!
botcub4u: I probably can't say anything to change your mind, but I still have trouble understanding why you would back McCain. If you supported Hillary, I'd presume that it was because you liked her policy proposals. Backing someone who will keep fighting the disastrous war in Iraq, opposes health care and womens' rights and wants to keep Bush's foolish economic policies seems like it goes against everything HRC stands for.
if you believe that you really have not listened to anything McCain has said, and know nothing about what kind of man he is, he has experience and intergrety, Obama possess neither..I can not vote for someone who does not stand behind his convictions, and makes political decisions because they are expedient!! He previously stated, he loved his pastor, church etc. and he dumped them all because it was in his political interest. I can't trust a person like that to be my president.
botcub4u: I'm well aware of what McCain has said: that he could not support Bush's tax cuts; now he wants to make them permanent. He railed against "pandering to...agents of intolerance" on the fringes but sought (and then rejected!) endorsements from Rod Parsley and John Hagee. Those sound like politically expedient choices to me.
Again, I can't fathom why you'd switch from Clinton to McCain. You're bringing up red herrings and ignoring that McCain's policies diametrically oppose Clinton's.
We will not agree on this, I'll make it as simple as I can. I don't care what Obama stands for, in my view he is inexperienced, without conviction, a liar, phony, has no plan, a dreamer and a fake, as well a wolf in sheeps clothing. Not an honest person. I can not vote for someone like that. You can tout what you want about McCain, he is a man of conviction, integrety, and moral substance. Obam has no track record accept what I have mentiond in previous posts, and its all bad.
botcub4u: I'll make things simple as well. I can (and will, if you like) give extensive counterarguments to nearly every point you listed with one exception: Obama IS a dreamer. I think that's a good thing.
OK, we could do this until november, & we will never agree. For me the moral substance, integrety, experience, honor, trust, to mention a few are most important. You will never convince me, regardless of what you show me, or how long we debate this issue. I have seen and heard enough about Obama. I have already made my decision about how I feel regarding his plan and person. Thanks for a good debate, w/ respect and honesty. You are a good person & I wish you good things
botcub4u: I also appreciate that you've kept things respectful. I only ask that you keep an open mind -- as a Hillary supporter I'm sure that your passions are still running high. Watch the two candidates until the election and then if you still feel that McCain is a better choice, vote for him; but if you decide that Hillary's causes (healthcare, ending the war, fighting poverty) will be better served by a President Obama, vote for him.
Byron, Peace to you as well, You are correct, we have a long way to go until November. Let's see what the next 5 months bring. Nothing is written in stone. By November many Obama people may change to McCain & Many McCain people may change to Obama. Its really great that people are talking about our election process, and whats happening in our country. Wouldn't it be great if as many people that voted for American Idol, would get involved in this process & vote in the presidential election!
But botcub is not nor ever has been a Hillary supporter. If it was one once, it has done a terrible job of ever pointing out its logic of why or how Hillary was the superior candidate. It is just trying to (very poorly) start a fire under people to get Hillary supporters angry at Obama.
bot, it is apparent you have done no studies on Baracks bio. You state your opinion of what you cant stand about him but you haven't backed up one of those statements with fact. Nor did you back up your comments about McCain. You sir/ms are not voting on party policy, who has better thoughts on Americans freedoms. Do us all a favor and back up your condemnations /praises
I have backed up all mys comments you just refuse to see them, you can vote for your Obama and I will vote for my choice. If you are to blinded by the charisma thats your problem..
botcub4u: It seems that you're willing to take McCain's words at face value, but not Obama's. If Obama dumped Wright for expediency's sake, why didn't he do so right away? As for why he left the church, maybe having reporters constantly badgering everyone who worshiped there actually was too much for him to put up with. Google "A Battered Feeling at Obama's Former Church" and read the article. I wouldn't want members of my church going through such things on my account!
Even further, your non existent IQ and support for Obama, proves that only a total moron would vote for him. You are in the right camp..watch him lose in November and then try to figure out why, but because you are such a no brain idiot you won't be able to. Ha Ha, I find that so ironic!!! Ha Ha Ha
I don't claim to be smarter than anyone here and really don't care if I am or not because it is irrelevant. The fact that you are criticizing people and believing that you are smarter than everyone else makes you a total idiot and not only that a douche. Good day!
First of all if you follow the chain back you will see how it panned out. I don't think I am smarter than anyone here, but will not put up with others who get pissy just because we don't agree. If you speak to me intelligently I will do the same. Now who is the Douche?
Man, what an ass, pretending you're superior. Vote for Obama, he's the right President, and you know it. Don't just think, but feel it. What will the future be like?
Can't u see the forest thru the trees. Obama has run a respectful campaign and maintained integrity and professionalism to the end. What has she shown, disrespect, denial of loss and the egotistical attitude she won. If that were tru why make sure you can't get into to website unless you check the box that says stay in an fight. That is not unity, she lied. Vote Repub and you lose. We don't need a deeper recession, so rich get richer and poor get poorer
Hillary has lost her mind. Will someone please check her into the mental ward?
She is low class and shameless. How could she be VP? She is a disgrace to the World. This is why the U.S. is in trouble because of selfish, petty individuals like Hillary.
Hillary Rosen (a supporter) has denounced her behavior.
Read the article, "I Am Not a Bargaining Chip, I Am a Democrat".
I would not want HRC back in the Senate representing me if I lived in NY.
Actually, dcik [sic]cheese, I posted that out of liking "South Park", and not from regional or class condescension. I went to HS in the Midwest, and both my parents are from poor rural areas. I'm a hell of a lot more country than some Beemer-riding yuppie douche bag from Jersey or wherever. It seems that I can spell better as well. What the fcuk [sic] would you know about the Midwest anyway? Ever actually been there, or have you just flown over it?
This woman is so disrepectful, just can't accept the fact that OBAMA won. She is holding out using leverage to see what her GREEDY ass can get out of it. This proves how FAKE she is, even when OBAMA is the clear winner she still won't recognize his victory.
Your've an asshole and do not know anything about politics. Without Hillarys voters Obama will not and can not win the country. He has to deal with her and us, AND HE BETTER HOPE SHE DOESN'T DECIDE TO RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT, THEN SHE SCREWS HIM ROYALY. AND THE REPUBLICANS WIN... Personally I hope she does run as an independent..
Botcub, what the hell are you talking about? Do you even care that McCain wants to criminalize abortion, keep the Bush tax cuts, and stay in Iraq forever??? By the way, Hillary can't run as an independent, because her campaign is 11 MILLION in debt. This bizarre speech? Either she's delusional, an unbelievable narcissist, or she wants to blackmail a spot on Obama's ticket / have him pay her campaign debt. Either way, it won't work. The Clintons are now irrelevant in the Democratic party!
You obviously don't understand politics and how it works. Hillary has 18 million voters that without Obama can not win the country. Plain and simple he has to deal with her/us or suffer the wrath of her voters. And yes, if he doesn't do the right thing by Hillary we will either not vote or vote McCain. Believe it!! We are also calling on Hillary to run as an independent, even if its just a spoiler tactic. This is real life, and he will have to face up to the power of her voters.
Hillary congatulated him, but does not have to bow down to him. She has the clout of 18 million voters behind her, they support her not him. He won the primary but doesn't mean we are going to vote for him. Get real.. If we wanted him we would have voted for him in the primary, its obviously we don't like him or his message. We may like McCain better than Obama. That's that, last time I checked this was still American & you could vote for whom you wanted and Hillary supporters will do that.
"She has the clout of 18 million voters behind her, they support her not him. He won the primary but doesn't mean we are going to vote for him. Get real."
You are either incredibly stupid or a racist piece of shit. No Hillary backer in his/her right mind will vote for McSame just because the Democratic primaries didn't go your way. Voting for Bush III just to spite Obama is as low and self-defeating as it gets.
This has nothing to do with her losing, Obams does not have the experience or integrety of McCain. I am not a racist, I happen to be a minority.I supported Hillary and my second choice will be McCain and maany Hillary supporter agreee..Just because someone is a Dem does not mean they have to vote for a democrate they feel is incompetent
botc, The fact of the matter is that only a dilettante or incredibly disingenuous person would throw their 'beliefs' out the window over personalities they may not like. McCain is exactly what both Hillary and Obama both repudiate. If Obama had lost, I'd be voting Hillary as her entire philosophy of govt and responsibility is more in line with Obama than McCain.
Hillary supporters can't pout and vote in an irresponsible and contrary manner.
Hillary Fan!!!!!!!! Love her. I wish she would of won the president elections..Bet she would of been a great & strong president.
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Hillary Clinton is the eldest of three and has two YOUNGER brothers. I think this is the reason why she is so powerful. We need more Hillarys and (Meryls, who is of the same birth order) don't you think? So if your first child happens to be a girl, and your second child a boy, then have a third child. Hopefully he is a boy.
DoWhaJo 2 years ago
very thatcher...she should have got in
DanofBritain 2 years ago
I wished she had've won the presidentian elections. she would've been the best choice.
weezyweezii 3 years ago 6
Well, Kumbaya! I guess HC said what she needed to say. Now if Bill will only keep his mouth shut.
Also, I really think MC needs to pick a female for his VP. This is the only possible way he can attract a significant number of voters currently in the Obama camp. I don't know how many he can attract, but there would definitely be some. I say KB Hutchison. Palin (Alaska gov) would be excellent but no nat'l name recognition. Condi to closely associated w/Bush.
JohnR22926 3 years ago
I Like the Clintons ALOT!! God Bless America!
romanticspirit 3 years ago 6
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clintons are crooks.. go away.
pennieless 3 years ago
Does anybody know where I could get the transcript of this speech?
AllieinFlorida 3 years ago
I actually think she bowed out gracefully!!!!
qjo7995 3 years ago 3
wich is the name of the song when clinton familly comes to the backstage??
plz tell somebody to me
pafillo 3 years ago
Muy bien por Hillary, toda una dama.
Congratulations to Hillary.
zap2014 3 years ago 4
What a great speech. Bravo.
dingle111 3 years ago 4
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I will only vote Obama if it's an Obama/Clinton ticket. Period. End of story.
mistermig 3 years ago
then no one cares about you vote!
clickonmyusername 3 years ago
She's a very smart and kind woman, but I think Obama would be a much better president. I have nothing ageist her but can't she just give up already? Obama won, its over. Its actually a good speech up until 3:03.
HappyPerson19 3 years ago 4
What's up with 4:22 - 4:28???? Is that some crazy subliminal mind @$#%??? I can't stop thinking of Hillary now. My girlfriend is coming over in a ten minutes. This isn't good.
chuckbukowski 3 years ago
that guy with the glasses behind her is really funny
zwarrior17 3 years ago
And all botcub has and ever had were false information and attacks. Sounds like someone else. No praise of your chosen candidate McCain. No description of why he truly is the better candidate. Just attempting to energize Hillary voters again Obama on some fool's errand. If I were to stoop to your lame attempts at ad hominem, I'd just refer to your other posts. I need go no further than that. Continue your rant please. Show us all your powerful arguments.
IQof20 3 years ago
If she loves this country as much as she claims, then she will take a big part in sculpting our future regardless of her position. IF you love her so much, then support her always to do her best, but dont try to destroy what democrats have been working towards for so long. A country of values for the people, by the people. Not some wealthy few. Why do i bother, you are set in your ways. do as you wish.
pandorascannabox 3 years ago
Like a die-hard sports fan,it burns to find out that your fave player of your team is out.are you to spoil this team's destined victory because it doesn't fit your requirements? clinton didnt get a homerun... but life isnt over for her. Whether or not she wins the presidency, she will not suddenly vanish.
pandorascannabox 3 years ago
i can't imagine why someone would vote for a completely opposite future because of their choice not making the cut. WHAT ARE YOUR VALUES, BOTCUB4U? do you even comprehend the world your people are trying to invoke with mccain as pres? he can't even give a geniune smile...do you ever wonder why? you are so rash to doom this country's commoners... who do you think you are! such self-indulgent comments of discontent.
pandorascannabox 3 years ago
BEGONE! This horrid, pathological, perverse, dirty, disgusting, maniacal sickness called Clinton's Porno for Power. Get Gone!
Thank you God for ridding us of Bushs & Clintons... at long last. When goodness finally triumphs over these sick evil political fucks for at least 4 years... Hallefuckinglujah!
souljaEXVOTO 3 years ago
Calm the heck down
zwarrior17 3 years ago
How can so many women support Hillary Clinton?
Shes everything the feminist movement was against, such as success is by who you marry.
Fails a bar exam in D.C.
Runs away to support her husband and his career.
Every job she has, was thru connections of her husband.
She stays married to him after the most embarassing affair in history.
Uses all his connections, fame, money and campaign skills to run for senate.
Then forces him again for President, plus his millions to her sinking run!
aurex73 3 years ago
actually before Bill was president, Hillary was more succesful career wise than him. She pushed herself very hard as a woman, and as a human being in general, and is forgiving to her husband at the same time. She's a great role model to women
zwarrior17 3 years ago 2
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You got me! I Wikipedia her work history. Hillary worked for a prestigous Arkansa Law Firm and served on the boards of Arkansa based companies such as Walmart and Lafarge.
She was making way more money than Bill. By monetary means she was more successful than Bill. Being a lawyre is way harder than becoming Govenor of a State.
I am sure Hillary earned those jobs and Bill being Govenor of the State for 12 years had no influence whatsoever.
Oprah's a failure to her!
aurex73 3 years ago
No point in comparing her to Oprah, I was just saying that she wasnt an embarrassment to women like you tried to implicate.
zwarrior17 3 years ago
Oprah, is a Self Made Woman! Nancy Polosie or Margaret Thatcher if you like a political example!
Hilary is not! She married her way to the top!
I can't think of a more non feminist that Hilary! She is a poor example for young women.
She knew since February she lossed and continue on how embarrassing!
When every last vote has been cast not to congratulate the winner, is just petty! Obama made history that night, Hilary refused to get out of history way! Thats her legacy!
aurex73 3 years ago
What? Are we supposed to support candidates because they might be in History books? I would hope it would be because of what they've done as presidents, and not because of who they are; a black man or a woman. So I cant comment in her getting in the way of him making history because that would put me in the same position as people who actually vote for Hillary just because she's a woman, or people who've voted for Barrack just because he is black.
zwarrior17 3 years ago
zwarrior17
My point was! We should vote for people who are self made! Not who they married! You missed my point!
Obama is a self made man! He doesn't use the race card, that be a Clinton tactic! Such as the press is picking on me because I am a woman! boo hoo!
I thought Hilary voters couldn't count I didn't know they couldn't read either. I see now how people such as yourself vote for her!
Obama earned every vote he received and deserves praise for a well run campaign!
aurex73 3 years ago 2
I didnt vote for her. And sure I can see how she could use her Last name to get to that position, but you act like its uncommon. Bush for example, is the son of a former President and that recognition could have helped him win.
This doesnt need to be a Obama vs Hillary issue, I was just saying Hillary did well for herself and has paved the way for women who maybe otherwise thought such a position would be impossible for them. Im not even a woman and I say this
zwarrior17 3 years ago
Obama nobama, you know what went ona! Please come ona, you joined in with your big momma. Yow went to your church and agreed with the creed, when word got out you rana & fell to your knees! You touted, I no agree, and spouted let me be free, from the church I don't need. Obama no bama we no wanna!
botcub4u 3 years ago
NOT cool. She can't use that song. That song is for me and my bf :( I'm sorry but the mountain is high enough for Hillary to lose.
justajumpingypsygirl 3 years ago
What a totally delusional NUTBAG Hillary turned out to be. Staying in this race and pouting, taunting and eventually showing her craziness was the worst possible thing for her, but the best thing for our country. She just MIGHT get that ambassador to Poland job afterall.
shaire99 3 years ago
I love hillary...the guy behind her is so gay lol.
AQNY23 3 years ago
lol ya he is.
jthoma11 3 years ago
I don't see how a person can go from Clinton to McCain. It's not "Them" your voting for it's the policies they are trying to implement. Obama and Clinton have almost the same policy.
Going from Clinton to McCain is like a Jewish person that can't get saturdays off work saying "Fine, If I can't get Saturday Off, I'm going to become a Neo-Nazi Athiest"
This isn't a personality contest between Rep. & Dem. They have very different views on how the country should work.
Vote for the right reason.
hassleoffa 3 years ago
Where do you people get your info from to vote for President? MSM Your all SHEEP. WAKE UP and do your own research into your candidates. The right person for the Presidency is RON PAUL. Go look at his record and what NOT the MSM feeds you in your living room brainwashing session. STUPID SHEEP
AOSDC1 3 years ago
Also... Could you IMAGINE hearing her wretched voice for the next 4 YEARS???
chach2000 3 years ago
I am laughing my ass off. You Dems are pathetic. You are eating your own. Within these comments Hillary supporters are threatening to vote for McCain if Obama doesn't name her as VP. You want her to run as an independent. (SURE WIN for McCain). This bitch just needs to STFU and sit down.
chach2000 3 years ago
I read about Florida and Michigan delegates and people being outraged about why Obama received any delegates at all. Why did Hilliary started advocating for Florida and Michigan after it became clear she will need those delegate to boost her argument about her being more electible. If she is the real champion of democracy she should have fought for them before the votes were being casted and why did she agreeed to not campaing in both those states.
shasae1 3 years ago 2
I'm talking crap about her because he can't. I know he respects her but I doubt that she really respects him. Her refusal to conceed to the nomination on the night he reached the proper delicate count left a nasty taste in our mouths. So he has to be Presidential and say what is best for the party publically. But I would love to be a fly on the wall in the privacy of OBAMA's home.
maingee 3 years ago
Delusional narcissism.
qwertygert 3 years ago
im not even gonna reply to that...
Krobra91 3 years ago
You did.
qwertygert 3 years ago
We are just as passionate for OBAMA as you ridiculous people are for Hillary. So don't call us idiots, we realize how important this election is and would never choose McCain over any Democrat.
maingee 3 years ago
if you are then you should knw he repsects hillary and her fight to the end. u calling us ridiculous, you are somewhat idiodic when your passionate about obama, yet you talk crap about hillary when OBAMA, THE PERSON YOU ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT, isnt doing that..... he knws she fough hard, and it would be aqward if she fough it all the way to august, but id bet you obama fans would do the same thing if he was in the same position. I RESPECT BOTH, But its not right not to respect both.
Krobra91 3 years ago
U idoits are probably barack obama fans, well guess what hed tell you to shut the hell up because he said that the party cant unite without hillary clinton. she's a fighter and now john mccain;'s after her supporters, respectfully, i congraudate him, but the facts he should not have gotten any delegates from michigan he took his name off by request and thats not fair that she worked her as... and you call youselfs democrats, when you are suppose to lok at both the obama and hillary
Krobra91 3 years ago
My question to you is from Hillary's own words.
"We know these votes won't count" If she fights for those because she was losing her word means Nothing.
gramalou 3 years ago 2
Clinton=93
McCain=55
Obama=37 ... The numbers above represent the total times each candidate used the words "I,me,my" or their own names, during their respective speeches. They spoke at roughly the same pace and Obama's speech was roughly 6 minutes longer than the others.
Part of why Clinton lost is her pathological self-centeredness. She cares more about herself getting ahead than party unity.
CheezInspector 3 years ago
Amen thank you
gramalou 3 years ago
I hate the word BITCH but his women defines it.How does THAT bring democrats together.Intelligent people hear this shit & it makes us sick.
RAHJMASON 3 years ago
sore loser !
TheBadBadGuy123 3 years ago
I heard she bought a sniper rifle!
Just kidding...I was just reading her mind!
She is the big winner in the state of denial!
Now we have to give her a few days to..face reality! As a president..you won't get a few days to face the truth...that 3:00am phone call needs to be answered now!Hillary can't say...please call back when I can handle this!
She talks a strong game..but in reality the media is walking on eggs..trying to give her some space!
They wouldn't do this for a man!!!
get real!!
beckpod1 3 years ago
== a clip from Survivor =====================
The eliminated player's torch is extinguished (also dubbed as snuffing), and America & the DNP declares...,
"The tribe has spoken" and "It's time for you to go."
Hilary then exits the Tribal Council area and delivers some final words that air at the end of the week, FINALLY!!!
Hilary: "Th-th-th-that's all folks!"
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TheAlmightyNemesis 3 years ago
First of all, she is the wrong woman to be supporting. She does not reflect me in any way nor what I want to be. Didn't she say that she'll do everything to support Obama once she loses? Well, why isn't she??? This woman is driving me crazy. It's June 2008!!!Isn't it time to unify under one party to beat McCain? How long are we going to be fighting within? Isn't this suppose to be about fighting the Republicans? If we don't wake up, we will lose in November.
minkaboo 3 years ago
Randy: I wasn"t feelin' it, dog. ur just ok. Dawg pound!, what-da-ya think? America looks bored.
Paula: u hv nice polyester pant suit. i think my grandmother has that same one. Mail order?
Simon: that was just dreadful. it was like being @ the supermarket & hearing that loud cryin', whinin', tantrum-throwin' kid for hours & all u wnt 2 do is slap da brat. u didn"t make an old political platform sound new. it's a "no vote" to denver or 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500.
TheAlmightyNemesis 3 years ago
It's just now being reported that she will be suspending her campaign on Friday and endorsing OBAMA. I will believe it when I see it and hear it.
maingee 3 years ago
"It's just now being reported that she will be suspending her campaign on Friday and endorsing OBAMA. I will believe it when I see it and hear it."
That would be amazing given the level of narcissism and lust for power this woman has exhibited over the course of the last 6 months. Hopefully she will calm down her hysterical supporters too and drill it into their peabrains that voting for McBush to get revenge on Obama is the most self-defeating thing anyone could possibly do.
SabuPtolemy 3 years ago
I know, isn't this one of the the most pathetic shameful situations you have ever witnessed. Like I said before vote for whom you choose but at least let the vote make sense. What do they think McCain is going to do for them? This is all about spite and will bite us all in the butt if her supporters follow through with this foolishness.
maingee 3 years ago
to make a speech about you (instead of who is best for the country, congratulate Senator Obama on the presidential nomination or unite the democratic party) & to imply that you're going bargain for the VP on the ticket (like a NFL player holding out for a contract re-negotiation) was disrespectful & a new low for her (cough, "psycho bitch"). She claims she has experience, she's "politics as usual". For the safety of the White House aides, no hiliary (& billy c) for VP.
TheAlmightyNemesis 3 years ago
I've spent many years as the waitress and the student...which is why I'm supporting Obama. Hillary, please quit while you're behind.
neurogrrl 3 years ago
she has the charisma of an average mushroom
mrkvamaster 3 years ago
This bitch is whacked. Obama is the nominee and this power hungry fruit loop is still powertrippin' and thinks she should make demands. Just go away already and take your bimbo addicted husband with you.
SabuPtolemy 3 years ago
Finally she lost she should have!
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Hitlery threatens to be tied to the convention podium!!!!
We want to be DONE with Hitlery already! She has been SO pathetic and SO stubborn, The Turd Bloosom will not even admit defeat when it's obvious! Hitlery should not be given the VP position, that should belong to someone that OBAMA picks. The VP position is not a consession prize for the runner up. NO MORE HITLERY! CONCEDE COW!
STOP trying to destroy the democratic party!!
chuckinla 3 years ago
To say you would not vote for Obama if Hillary didn't get the nomination, is admitting you didn't really care about the issues to begin with. If you like Hillary's stand on the issues, then you like Obama's, because they are almost identical. For those of you who say you would vote for McCain if Obama wins, then you were never a Democrat. What a shame some people vote on personality, race or gender, instead of looking at what really counts.
peantu11 3 years ago
Obama needs to get as far away from this psycho bitch as he can.
Richardgwm 3 years ago 2
Amen.
STATEMENT99 3 years ago
please... tell me of hilary's experience. Her rich family lifestyle? or her experience on saying that she has experience. Obama has built himself from the ground up, helping people, putting real change into effect. No glamour, just hard work, dedication, and speaking fro the heart.
im sick of this hilariously rotten clinton.
i support BARACK WHO'S SANE OBAMA
pandorascannabox 3 years ago 2
Hey Pan, I wrote ahile back comparing HRC exper. vs Obama. Clear fact is politically they have the same years of experience. she spent 16 yrs for the law office and 8 as First Lady which had no Natioanal Security Clearance. She was given the Health Care issue by Bill, botched that with her secrecy, and was a Goodwill Ambassador for 8 yrs. The women embellished every exper issue in her campaign. The right person won, lets get the Dems in
power
gramalou 3 years ago
Everyday that this situation is not resolved we are waisting time. And Hillary continuing to ignore OBAMA'S victory is not helping the party out at all. McCain is gonna have more than he should to throw at OBAMA in the gerneral election thanks to HRC. She is gonna have to pay a serious price for that.
maingee 3 years ago
Everyday that this siyuation is not resolved we are waisting time. And H
maingee 3 years ago
The best bet Maingee and AboveAllNations is to just keep feeding this troll and others like it so the obvious level of zealotry will keep coming up. It clearly shows the lack of reason and rationality in their position and helps more normal people remove themselves from Hillary's camp. You can either try to rationalize and calm their anger, or whip a few of them up into a frenzy to scare off the others. Given that Obama's trying reason, the rest of us can try the other.
IQof20 3 years ago
I have tried to stay to the facts but now you are getting personal, it shows your inmaturity! You just have to accept that Hillary voters will not be supporting Obama. Plain and simple, for all the detailed reasons I have stated herewith in all these numorous postings. I have to go now because the Hillary volunteers are being called to an important meeting regarding a possible independent run. Have a good day and I wish you and Obama well..
botcub4u 3 years ago
I agree IQof20 why am I still feeding this monster? I guess it's because I see our chance to regain this country is going down the drain. Why they don't get that it's not about her are her supporters is beyond me. This country is already in a mess and why they want to further complicate this matter is ridiculous.
maingee 3 years ago
They aren't going down the drain Maingee. This is political strategy and tactics. Help people see the truth, or help them be uncomfortable being associated with the lie. Botcub may just be an angry voter (I've met a few lately) so let it pass. Regardless, Hillary's strategy is to stop Obama from winning, so just try to figure out the best way to neutralize her threat and go with it. Compromise won't work. She only attacks. A lesson learned from Newt Gingrich. The wrong lesson.
IQof20 3 years ago
Am I surpised at her and her supporters behavior? HELL NO! This just proves that it's all about her political ambitions and not fighting for the country. I knew I was right about her and people have said for a long time that she was all about herself. I know the Republicans are loving this. Democrats never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
maingee 3 years ago
If Hillary genuinely wants to be VP, how does she expect Obama to pick her if she makes it transparently obvious that she's blackmailing him into it? Obama can't do it now, because she's leaked all of this information to the media and it'd make Obama look weak. He can't reward her for her petulance - Obama would be better served ignoring Hillary and her baggage / drama, and the vocal minority of her angry, racist, post-menopausal supporters.
AboveAllNations 3 years ago
Botcub4u: Hillary already owes 11 million, so she CAN NOT run as an independent. The primary is over - Obama is the nominee, and it will be Obama vs. McCain in November. What, exactly, do you want??? What does "acknowledge" or "respect" for you people mean? Obama complimented Hillary in his speech, conceded delegates to her in two fraudulent elections (when he had the ability to get much more out of the FL/MI compromise), and he's forgiven Bill's racism / her speculation on his assassination.
AboveAllNations 3 years ago
First of all it is not 11 million. Second she certainly can run as an independent. Third, we don't like Obama. I thought I made what I wanted clear many posts ago. Hillary run as independent and her supporters have who they want to vote for, and if not and we really don't like Obama, then we either vote for McCain or not at all. It is our privilege to use our vote anyway we please, just as you will. Sorry if you don't like it but thats the way it is
botcub4u 3 years ago
Correct it is not 11 million. It is nearly 20 million. She can run as an Independent, but she won't. It is your privilege to use your vote in an irresponsible manner just as it is my privilege to use mine in a responsible one. Server her quest for power not your country and (as I actually *HAVE* made clear) you continue to prove my point.
IQof20 3 years ago
Lsten, your facts are as bourgeoisie as your dim wit. It is not irresponsible to vote for who I choose to represent me as President. It would however be irresponsible for me to vote for someone I do not trust, like, respect, or believe in his empty promise, or his lack of experience, the list goes on. I have never supported Obama, and I don't understand why is it such a surprise that most of Hillary's supporters will not vote for him.
botcub4u 3 years ago
Further:You have only proven that you are not capable of understanding human nature and people. So its either an independent run for Hillary or an all out push for McCain who is a man of experience and integrity.
botcub4u 3 years ago
Furter more Bill Clinto never has and never will be a racist, what bull. and never speculated such a thing, how naive, do you believe all the spins the media puts on this stuff.
botcub4u 3 years ago
When has he not acknowlegde her? He was very gracious to her and what she stands for in his speech last night. She and her supporters are the ones being disrespectful and not acknowledging his victory. I can see her negatives just raise higher and higher than they already are.
maingee 3 years ago
He had to acknowlede her. He had no choice, because he needs her support and her voters. No disrespect from her or us, she/we are just deciding what she should do next, and an idependent run is on the table and her volunteers have gotten it throuth the grapevine that it is under consideration. That is what her supporters want, and we have every right to ask for it, this is a free country.. Go Hillary.....
botcub4u 3 years ago
And there it is maingee. They will *never* acknowledge it. It will *never* be enough. If he offers her VP, then he should have offered her President. Botcub, you offer nothing but talking points and electrons of spin. Your anger isn't justified, but it is valid. I do plan to see what happens in November and it will prove to me if Hillary is willing to sacrifice for her country or if she's just someone after the brass ring. I know your vote on that.
IQof20 3 years ago
Sounds like you are the angry one. I am not angry, I just want my candidate of choice to be the choice I can vote for in November, if that means she runs as an idependent so be it. This is polotics in the grown up world..
botcub4u 3 years ago
That is why many people wanted her to get out of the race when the math didn't favor her, because we knew in the end it would worsen all these hard feelings. Her plan was to ruin him and it looks like shes off to a good start. I hope in November her supporters come to their senses.
maingee 3 years ago
Botcub, as I council all of the companies I consult for: Never confuse your marketing message with the truth. 18 million then doesn't equal 18 million later. You want him to crawl to her and acknowledge her power, which is exactly what *she* wants. To be told she has power and to show her she has power. At every turn you support my statements. Perhaps you should stop posting or attempt to change the subject again.
IQof20 3 years ago
I would like her to run as an independent in November so her supporters have a candidate they can vote for, we do not want Obama. Plain and simple.. For the reasons I have stated all over this page. I understand that this will cause McCain to win, but most of the 18 million do not want to cast a vote for Obama. You will see in November.
botcub4u 3 years ago
Yes, we all will see in November if anyone other than yourself, Hillary and Bill are so rabidly after her own claim to power that you will sacrifice an opportunity to truly energize and renew the electorate and the political process in an effort to claim power for yourselves. The duty of a leader is to follow the policy of "self sacrifice". If Hillary is a leader, then she must sacrifice her own desires for glory at this time. But she (and you) won't.
IQof20 3 years ago
Who says he will energize and renew the electorate and the political process, they will eat him alive. Do you tink he will walk in and they are all going to role over and play dead. He already owes many superdelagates more than we can afford. More to come
botcub4u 3 years ago
No, the duty of a leader is to do what they feel is the right course of action for the country and Obama is not. If Hillary is the leader I think she is she will make a run as an independent, because she/we know she is the one that is best equiped to make things right. This is not about glory its about the best person for the job. I guess you and I and the rest of the world will just have to wait and see what happens, but I would advise Obams not to get tooo comfortable.
botcub4u 3 years ago
Oh how educated and worldly, you council companies, wow!! hoiw exciting!!! Point is, he needs to acknowledge her and her voters or he will suffer the repercussions in November, now that's a marketing fact. After debating with all of you Obama supporters I see you don't understand life very well, so it's no surprise you are not seeing him as the empty promise that he is.
botcub4u 3 years ago
Hillary does not have the popular vote, that is a lie. Both primaries and caucuses are "popular" votes, not just the primaries. If she'll lie on that point what else? Besides which, what are "electorates"?
Gridfire 3 years ago
Regardless, she has 18 million voters behind her, without those voters Obama can not win, don't you people get it, do you think we are just going to vote for him becase he won the Dem. primary.. Duh.. If we wanted him we would have voted for him akreadt. Why would we vote for someone we don't like. Most of us see McCain as a good choice, and as I have said before this is American land of the free, & the 18 million will vote how we want. Obams I wouldn't get my hopes up. "You're not the one"
botcub4u 3 years ago
botcub, what are you some white supremist or something? hey, i am white but i am not prejudice like that...you have a candidate that shares Hill's views but yet you act like you hate him..what is your deal? you make no sense at all..don't know why i am wasting my time on this really...you're obviously deranged
theultimateunderdog 3 years ago
How dare you, I am anything but that.. I am a minority and fully understand these issues. It is simple, it is about his experience, empty statements of change and how he is get it done, inexperience, he is not what he appears to be thats why Hillary voters don't like him and will not vote for him. Plain and simple. We don't want him, and if Hillary decides not to run as an independent, we will vote for what we see as the next best choice, and that is McCain. Sorry if you don't agree
botcub4u 3 years ago
I'm from the UK and I can see these things, how can you not? Over here, we listen to POLICY and ISSUES and on these two things Clinton and Obama are EXACTLY THE SAME. Experience is useless if it hasn't taught you anything as it obviously hasn't with McCain (Bush3) If McCain is voted in, the rest of the World will sideline the US worse than we have already. Politics in the US is already a laughingstock and you want to exascerbate that further?
Gridfire 3 years ago
Gridfire, No disrespect, but you are still bowing to a queen, and thats the tip of the iceberg. Please, before you try to take the speck out of my eye remove the rafter from yours. Thanks but no thanks
botcub4u 3 years ago
No disrespect taken bot. I'm actually a republican in the sense that I do not like having an unelected head of state no matter the fact that she has no political power whatsoever. So personally I'm not "bowing to a Queen" and I'm not a subject of hers anyway. I'm a citizen of the United Kingdom and the only power I have to bow to is that of the elected government. No speck or plank in my eye thankyou.
Gridfire 3 years ago
Hillary supporters who refuse to vote for Obama and would rather vote McCain are bitter, vapid cunts. Seriously, grow the fuck up! "Wahh wahh my candidate didn't win so I gonna vote for someone who doesn't remotely share my views!" Crybabies, the lot of ya.
popcornaquarium 3 years ago
watch the language- there is no use to resort to school yard bully tactics and potty mouth antics. I agree to not vote because of sour grapes and send this wonderful country further down the drain is ridiculous, but can not condone you choice of words.
beautifulboy33 3 years ago
I also want to say that if Hillary runs as in independent and that costs a Democrat the election, I, among others, will be very, very disillusioned and frankly, angry. Why would you split votes between two people who share almost identical views? It has become about who SHE is now, not about what she wants America to become & sorry, that is just wrong.
theultimateunderdog 3 years ago
Hillary Supporters: I can understand your disappointment, sure. Please, please assure me, though, that you would NEVER vote for McCain over Obama. Obama & Clinto share almost identical views on every important issue. Why wouldn't these 18 million Clinton supporters now support Obama? It is the only choice that makes sense regardless of who is VP. The issues have not changed--there is just a different person than who you wanted to represent them. McCain is an illogical choice for any Dem.
theultimateunderdog 3 years ago
The record shows that people don't believe she is the strongest candidate. 'Stay the course' that's a GW line..lol The division continues
kryminalll 3 years ago
I will just say this, Obama needs to recognize Hillary and her voters. We are moving toward trying to get her to run as an idependent. We do not like Obama and his false fall from the sky message. It looks like Hillary may run as an independent from what her staff is telling the volunteers. We shall see..
botcub4u 3 years ago
Look you crazy ass fucker, I never said we didn't need her supporters and neither did OBAMA. He has been very respectful to her and her supporters, it's you Hillary supporters that are acting like ASSES. I see your point from a political stance but I don't think he should be punked into choosing her. Let him make the decision, and if you don't like what I have to say don't talk shit to me through a keyboard, just move your dilutional ass on to the next comment.
maingee 3 years ago
I see by your comments exactly what Obama supporters are like from you comments. Very educational. You replyed to me, and now you don't like what I have to say, well too bad. Yes he can make his own dicission but has to kow that if its not what the 18 million want he won't be elected. These are facts that no one can dispute. This is america and we will vote as we see fit. I see an independant run in Hillarys future. I think it would be great, this is what America was built on.
botcub4u 3 years ago
No I responded in general on the board to what you had said, you hit me up personally and made your displeasure known. You keep saying she has 18 million voters, he has just as many as she does and we didn't want her ass either. But voting for McCain is stupid, because what issues does he represent of yours? This is all about spite and your gonna make yourselves and a whole lotta people miserable all because you all are sore losers.
maingee 3 years ago
Hillary is not going to accept the VP spot and is trying publically to seek it while not seeking it. She and Bill will snipe from the sides as softly yet firmly as possible to shut down Obama's chances in an effort to grab the nomination in 2012. They'll be careful at this point to keep their hard-core voters satisfied (no groveling) and pursue this nomination again.
IQof20 3 years ago
Look, I know you don't like what I have to say, and that is fine you can vote your way and we 18 Million will vote our way.. And yes Obama has just as many votes but without ours to add to the pile he Can Not win in November. This is a fact. Unless Obama acts like we feel he should we will see to it he des not win the election in November, becase as it stands now we don't want him. Sorry, but you may have to live with McCain. Isn't life a bitch!! How profound.....
botcub4u 3 years ago
Thanks for supporting my statement botcub. Nice when the Trolls eat their own dogfood.
IQof20 3 years ago
You're welcome, its nice to see how much better Hillarys supporters were brought up. Respectful. I honestly think Hillary should make a run as an independent. She is the only one who can effect the change we need. I know that Obama is not capable. Hillary please run as an independent, even if you lose you will give us a real candidate to vote for in November.
botcub4u 3 years ago
I agree botcub. Please reinforce that she is more concerned with her own success than truly supporting the nation. Not just the party, but the nation as a whole. But she will not run as an independant. She will wait and plan to pick up the reigns in 2012.
IQof20 3 years ago
I don't agree with that, Hillary is concerned for this country as a whole, her supporters do not want Obama, so she will either run as an independent or let Obama stew in his own juices when McCain wins the election.
botcub4u 3 years ago
But you *do* agree with that. If she believes in her positions, then she should be gracious and truly work to help the winner of this campaign (Obama). You want her to act exactly as I have stated. You want to punish us w/ McCain in the hopes she can get elected later. You're being naive to seek an independent run. Just follow what I've said and undermine Obama at every turn and let her take her shot in 2012. And prove exactly what I've said to be 100% correct.
IQof20 3 years ago
scum, classless scum.
scw454648 3 years ago 3
If Hillary supporters vote for McCain in the fall, it will be out of spite or stupidity. Obama and Hillary agree on so many important issues--choosing to vote against the Democratic Party in the fall would either be a purely racist or a purely selfish decision. That's a fact.
themarinersrevenge 3 years ago 3
The notion of not voting for OBAMA to hurt him is crazy. Your really screwing yourself and tells the "real Democratic party" just how unloyal, crazy, and scandalous you are. Go ahead and vote for McCain and see where that gets you. Only Hillary and her supporters would be such poor pathetic sore losers. McCain represents none of your issues but your gonna vote for him to spite OBAMA, thats good thinking I guess you all have not suffered enough. But make good on your plan, just wait you will.
maingee 3 years ago
Hillary Clinton sucks...I can't believe this!!! She refuses to respect the fact that the democratic party will nominate the first African American for president. This is crazy !!! I really don't think she is fighting for the american people,I think she is fight for SELFISH AMBITION
newdayo 3 years ago 2
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Listen, Obama can not shine Hillary's shoes. Her and her voters better be respected or its a republican vote we will all cast. Obama needs our votes to win.. I think Hillary should run as an independent and mess Obama up big time... HaHa...
botcub4u 3 years ago
you clearly an idiot u think hillary is stupid enough to run as an independent, she doesnt give to fucks about u and she prove it by not going to da convention... she a smart business person and not stupid enough like u ppl to think she will run as an independen hahaha oh dat the funniest thing i ever heard
latincupidd 3 years ago
I'm an idiot?? Read what you just wrote and maybe you'll consider going back to school to get an education.. Your comments are null and void since you are an Illiterate. People like you should not speak let alone vote.
botcub4u 3 years ago
Calling all Hillary supporters, now that she is out of the race, let's join in support of the next best hope a man of experience and integrity, John McCain. We all know that Obama is a phony, empty promise, no experience man. He has yet to back up all his change promises, never says how he will make this great change. He is not the one. Wet behind the ears. No character, he gave up his pastor, church, now salutes the flag and wears a lapel pin because it's politically expedient. Phony!
botcub4u 3 years ago
Just keep proving you and your candidate's quest for power will sacrifice America and anyone who doesn't follow lockstep with you Botcub as you have been doing this entire thread. Please keep posting. No need to discuss anything with you other than you continued ranting about burning the house down around ourselves because you cannot paint it the color you want.
IQof20 3 years ago
Oh, and if you keep calling for her to run as an Independent, then I guess that makes you a McCain supporter attempting to energize people (who won't listen to you) to support your person and start some completely ill-conceived 3rd party run. In that situation, you are a fool and only hoping bigger fools will follow you. Hillary is not a fool. She is many things, but not that.
IQof20 3 years ago
Not true, Only want someone I can trust with experience and intergrety in the position of president, not a phony who makes decisions because its politically expedient, and touts empty promises
botcub4u 3 years ago
Like McCain? Look. It is now obvious you're a McCain supporter and have been outed. Just go support your candidate honestly. It does no justice to yourself or others to perform this task. If McCain is the best candidate, then honor him through your best and most honorable work. Not false-premise internet posting.
IQof20 3 years ago
Now I am positive your IQ is really 20.. Is it so inconceivable that someone who supported Hillary would now believe that McCain is the next best choice? NO of course not, not if they had a brain. For your information I was a volunteer on Hillary's campaign. Just get it through you low IQ brain that I do not simply vote for someone because they are a democrat. That kind of thinking is evident of your low IQ and stupidity. If I felt Obama was any good I would have supported him previously
botcub4u 3 years ago
botcub4u, if you volunteered with Hillary's campaign what is your reasoning for supporting McCain if not based on a grudge? I'm not saying that you should automatically vote Democrat, but Obama's policies line up with hers 95% or more....it astounds me that so many HRC supporters are threatening to vote for McCain; it seems like cutting off your nose to spite your own face.
iamthebyron 3 years ago
I have never trusted Obama & his empty promises, & his inexperience is of great concern, and above all his decisions regarding his pastor, church, saluting the flag, and wearing a lapel pin. More to come
botcub4u 3 years ago
He first stated he couldn't leave his pastor, he did, he couldn't leave his church, he did, he didn't need to salute the flag, he does now, he didn't need to wear a lapel flag, he does now, all these things he did, not because of his conviction, but because it was politically expedient. As well, I do not for one moment believe that someone is a member of a church like that for as many years as he was, unless they endorse the church, and pastors opinion and views. It disgusts me!!
botcub4u 3 years ago
botcub4u: I probably can't say anything to change your mind, but I still have trouble understanding why you would back McCain. If you supported Hillary, I'd presume that it was because you liked her policy proposals. Backing someone who will keep fighting the disastrous war in Iraq, opposes health care and womens' rights and wants to keep Bush's foolish economic policies seems like it goes against everything HRC stands for.
iamthebyron 3 years ago
if you believe that you really have not listened to anything McCain has said, and know nothing about what kind of man he is, he has experience and intergrety, Obama possess neither..I can not vote for someone who does not stand behind his convictions, and makes political decisions because they are expedient!! He previously stated, he loved his pastor, church etc. and he dumped them all because it was in his political interest. I can't trust a person like that to be my president.
botcub4u 3 years ago
botcub4u: I'm well aware of what McCain has said: that he could not support Bush's tax cuts; now he wants to make them permanent. He railed against "pandering to...agents of intolerance" on the fringes but sought (and then rejected!) endorsements from Rod Parsley and John Hagee. Those sound like politically expedient choices to me.
Again, I can't fathom why you'd switch from Clinton to McCain. You're bringing up red herrings and ignoring that McCain's policies diametrically oppose Clinton's.
iamthebyron 3 years ago
We will not agree on this, I'll make it as simple as I can. I don't care what Obama stands for, in my view he is inexperienced, without conviction, a liar, phony, has no plan, a dreamer and a fake, as well a wolf in sheeps clothing. Not an honest person. I can not vote for someone like that. You can tout what you want about McCain, he is a man of conviction, integrety, and moral substance. Obam has no track record accept what I have mentiond in previous posts, and its all bad.
botcub4u 3 years ago
botcub4u: I'll make things simple as well. I can (and will, if you like) give extensive counterarguments to nearly every point you listed with one exception: Obama IS a dreamer. I think that's a good thing.
watch?v=KUZ-3b0oAgA
iamthebyron 3 years ago
OK, we could do this until november, & we will never agree. For me the moral substance, integrety, experience, honor, trust, to mention a few are most important. You will never convince me, regardless of what you show me, or how long we debate this issue. I have seen and heard enough about Obama. I have already made my decision about how I feel regarding his plan and person. Thanks for a good debate, w/ respect and honesty. You are a good person & I wish you good things
botcub4u 3 years ago
botcub4u: I also appreciate that you've kept things respectful. I only ask that you keep an open mind -- as a Hillary supporter I'm sure that your passions are still running high. Watch the two candidates until the election and then if you still feel that McCain is a better choice, vote for him; but if you decide that Hillary's causes (healthcare, ending the war, fighting poverty) will be better served by a President Obama, vote for him.
That's my two cents. :)
Peace, Byron
iamthebyron 3 years ago
Byron, Peace to you as well, You are correct, we have a long way to go until November. Let's see what the next 5 months bring. Nothing is written in stone. By November many Obama people may change to McCain & Many McCain people may change to Obama. Its really great that people are talking about our election process, and whats happening in our country. Wouldn't it be great if as many people that voted for American Idol, would get involved in this process & vote in the presidential election!
botcub4u 3 years ago
Amen to that!
iamthebyron 3 years ago
But botcub is not nor ever has been a Hillary supporter. If it was one once, it has done a terrible job of ever pointing out its logic of why or how Hillary was the superior candidate. It is just trying to (very poorly) start a fire under people to get Hillary supporters angry at Obama.
IQof20 3 years ago
bot, it is apparent you have done no studies on Baracks bio. You state your opinion of what you cant stand about him but you haven't backed up one of those statements with fact. Nor did you back up your comments about McCain. You sir/ms are not voting on party policy, who has better thoughts on Americans freedoms. Do us all a favor and back up your condemnations /praises
gramalou 3 years ago
I have backed up all mys comments you just refuse to see them, you can vote for your Obama and I will vote for my choice. If you are to blinded by the charisma thats your problem..
botcub4u 3 years ago
bot, clinton told you to vote for Obama. Obama has the closest viewpoints to Hillary so your either
1) Racist
2) Only voted for Hillary cuz she was a woman
3) Sour about Obama beating her
Geckos987 3 years ago
botcub4u: It seems that you're willing to take McCain's words at face value, but not Obama's. If Obama dumped Wright for expediency's sake, why didn't he do so right away? As for why he left the church, maybe having reporters constantly badgering everyone who worshiped there actually was too much for him to put up with. Google "A Battered Feeling at Obama's Former Church" and read the article. I wouldn't want members of my church going through such things on my account!
iamthebyron 3 years ago
Even further, your non existent IQ and support for Obama, proves that only a total moron would vote for him. You are in the right camp..watch him lose in November and then try to figure out why, but because you are such a no brain idiot you won't be able to. Ha Ha, I find that so ironic!!! Ha Ha Ha
botcub4u 3 years ago
I don't claim to be smarter than anyone here and really don't care if I am or not because it is irrelevant. The fact that you are criticizing people and believing that you are smarter than everyone else makes you a total idiot and not only that a douche. Good day!
JCruz0587 3 years ago
First of all if you follow the chain back you will see how it panned out. I don't think I am smarter than anyone here, but will not put up with others who get pissy just because we don't agree. If you speak to me intelligently I will do the same. Now who is the Douche?
botcub4u 3 years ago
Man, what an ass, pretending you're superior. Vote for Obama, he's the right President, and you know it. Don't just think, but feel it. What will the future be like?
Bonesteoca 3 years ago
Can't u see the forest thru the trees. Obama has run a respectful campaign and maintained integrity and professionalism to the end. What has she shown, disrespect, denial of loss and the egotistical attitude she won. If that were tru why make sure you can't get into to website unless you check the box that says stay in an fight. That is not unity, she lied. Vote Repub and you lose. We don't need a deeper recession, so rich get richer and poor get poorer
gramalou 3 years ago
Hillary has lost her mind. Will someone please check her into the mental ward?
She is low class and shameless. How could she be VP? She is a disgrace to the World. This is why the U.S. is in trouble because of selfish, petty individuals like Hillary.
Hillary Rosen (a supporter) has denounced her behavior.
Read the article, "I Am Not a Bargaining Chip, I Am a Democrat".
I would not want HRC back in the Senate representing me if I lived in NY.
What a disgrace? Sore loser!
STATEMENT99 3 years ago 7
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"If Nig**r can be the President of this great Nation, and then I believe Pigs can fly!!!!" -Dan
It ain´t the color dude, its his total lack of "savoir faire". Braxs will be the final nail in America´s coffin.
RideMyBMW 3 years ago
"He Tuk Mah Jaaw-b! He Tuk Mah JAAAWW-B!!"
malchikinus 3 years ago
"He Tuk Mah Jaaw-b! He Tuk Mah JAAAWW-B!!" - mal
You fo Braxs , right ? Arrogance n condescension just ooozes outta you folk. Making fun of middle America, that´s real smart.
RideMyBMW 3 years ago
Actually, dcik [sic]cheese, I posted that out of liking "South Park", and not from regional or class condescension. I went to HS in the Midwest, and both my parents are from poor rural areas. I'm a hell of a lot more country than some Beemer-riding yuppie douche bag from Jersey or wherever. It seems that I can spell better as well. What the fcuk [sic] would you know about the Midwest anyway? Ever actually been there, or have you just flown over it?
malchikinus 3 years ago
This woman is so disrepectful, just can't accept the fact that OBAMA won. She is holding out using leverage to see what her GREEDY ass can get out of it. This proves how FAKE she is, even when OBAMA is the clear winner she still won't recognize his victory.
maingee 3 years ago 8
Your've an asshole and do not know anything about politics. Without Hillarys voters Obama will not and can not win the country. He has to deal with her and us, AND HE BETTER HOPE SHE DOESN'T DECIDE TO RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT, THEN SHE SCREWS HIM ROYALY. AND THE REPUBLICANS WIN... Personally I hope she does run as an independent..
botcub4u 3 years ago
Botcub, what the hell are you talking about? Do you even care that McCain wants to criminalize abortion, keep the Bush tax cuts, and stay in Iraq forever??? By the way, Hillary can't run as an independent, because her campaign is 11 MILLION in debt. This bizarre speech? Either she's delusional, an unbelievable narcissist, or she wants to blackmail a spot on Obama's ticket / have him pay her campaign debt. Either way, it won't work. The Clintons are now irrelevant in the Democratic party!
AboveAllNations 3 years ago 2
You obviously don't understand politics and how it works. Hillary has 18 million voters that without Obama can not win the country. Plain and simple he has to deal with her/us or suffer the wrath of her voters. And yes, if he doesn't do the right thing by Hillary we will either not vote or vote McCain. Believe it!! We are also calling on Hillary to run as an independent, even if its just a spoiler tactic. This is real life, and he will have to face up to the power of her voters.
botcub4u 3 years ago
I challenge you to go back and read what you just wrote.
Hillary couldn't even acknowledge Barack's primary win. She's bitter and spiteful, and it seems those who blindly follow her are as well.
Be prepared for a new era-Obama '08!!!
isildae 3 years ago
Hillary congatulated him, but does not have to bow down to him. She has the clout of 18 million voters behind her, they support her not him. He won the primary but doesn't mean we are going to vote for him. Get real.. If we wanted him we would have voted for him in the primary, its obviously we don't like him or his message. We may like McCain better than Obama. That's that, last time I checked this was still American & you could vote for whom you wanted and Hillary supporters will do that.
botcub4u 3 years ago
"She has the clout of 18 million voters behind her, they support her not him. He won the primary but doesn't mean we are going to vote for him. Get real."
You are either incredibly stupid or a racist piece of shit. No Hillary backer in his/her right mind will vote for McSame just because the Democratic primaries didn't go your way. Voting for Bush III just to spite Obama is as low and self-defeating as it gets.
SabuPtolemy 3 years ago
This has nothing to do with her losing, Obams does not have the experience or integrety of McCain. I am not a racist, I happen to be a minority.I supported Hillary and my second choice will be McCain and maany Hillary supporter agreee..Just because someone is a Dem does not mean they have to vote for a democrate they feel is incompetent
botcub4u 3 years ago
botc, The fact of the matter is that only a dilettante or incredibly disingenuous person would throw their 'beliefs' out the window over personalities they may not like. McCain is exactly what both Hillary and Obama both repudiate. If Obama had lost, I'd be voting Hillary as her entire philosophy of govt and responsibility is more in line with Obama than McCain.
Hillary supporters can't pout and vote in an irresponsible and contrary manner.
shaire99 3 years ago
shaire99, you can take Chappaquidick Ted and shove it!
MeritisDE 2 years ago
"This has nothing to do with her losing, Obams does not have the experience or integrety of McCain."
He also doesn't have the stupidity of McSame which is why he knew the Iraq war was bogus from Day 1.
"I am not a racist, I happen to be a minority."
LOL - racists come in all colors. You are a perfect example.
"Just because someone is a Dem does not mean they have to vote for a democrate they feel is incompetent"
Funny since Obama and HRC's platform are virtually the same on the major issues.
SabuPtolemy