A6: The Strange obsession of Dr. Carl Von Cosel

[sistamachinegun]

... I think this is really sweet.

[TheGuinnessboys]

makes me think of the song "Code Blue" by TSOL

[MsBatista85]

I have been taken by this story for yrs , As morbid and disturbing as it is I believe this is one of the most romantic stories I've ever heard , Love makes people do crazy things and he was definitely in love with her.

[Ellidegg]

wow... 

[SuperRydawg]

"That will not be necessary", Von Cosel said..."And he proceeded to take her upstairs, to the bedroom..." (best line of ANY true crime series...Ever....just sayin lol) omg! but doesnt this just Freak you out more than >>>>Anything???>>> lol, still scares the Daylights outta Me>>> the poor, sick, demented, necrophiliac bastard>>>> ugh>>>

[SuperRydawg]

>Definitely the Creepiest story and video, from one of the Best original true crime shows ever aired!! This story has Always stayed with me, since I 1st watched it, many yrs ago... and when I started buying dvds of great stuff like this, go figure only TWO MEASLY seasons of this series are available... and yes, of course, this season is NOT one of them...;-( >>> MOTHER-SMURFER!!......lol>>> But DAM, Cosel, if ur NOT the SCARIEST dude I've NEVER MET>>>>> always lovin the Autopsy Series>>>

[msmithstud]

i can't believe he had intercourse with her or it

[sk8Alonso28]

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[Anastasia4141]

I saw this story on tv. It was WAY creepy!!

[enfroh]

love this story. ive made an instrumental hip hop beat that truly captures this perfect!

check it out peeps! on my channel " 6screws - the strange obsession of dr. carl van cosel"

im sure all you can enjoy it! :)

[forzamicha46]

sounds like Ed Gein story.

[TitoCompianni]

@forzamicha46 No comparison with Ed Gein, he was almost an animal, this is a bizarre example of extremely strange love

[WildHunt25]

2:42 Why do crazy tormented people love playing the organ so much?

[nickali1981]

Creepy as hell,gives me chills evrey time i watch,and the music really puts it over the top

[illuminatiCannibal]

Living dead girl.

[janettetsmith]

Oh, yikes ... that man crazy.

[benj008]

i saw this in HBO when I was 11 years old... it fucking scared the shit out of me for weeks!

[amuslima99]

@benj008 Doesn't it remind you, in some ways, of the movie "Psycho" ?

[benj008]

@amuslima99 now that you've mentioned it, yes it definitely reminds me of Norman Bates' strange obsession! But this one brings it to the nth level! haha... that makes me curious if hitchcock was influenced by this story.

[amuslima99]

@benj008 No, from what I know, "Psycho" is adapted from the life of a man named Ed Gein. There is a movie made about him. ( I don't remember who played his role ). He was dominated by his mother, and kept her bedroom like she always had it. And he murdered atleast two women in the town he lived in. But he wasn't dressed like a woman when he did it, as far as I know.

[benj008]

@amuslima99 yes. I know Ed Gein. I know most of those creepy stories (Bathory, Manson, Dahmer, Gacy etc.) it served as my bedtime stories when i was a child. jk

[amuslima99]

@benj008 Lol, I hope you never become as creepy as they were !

[whiteknightcat]

Is it just me or does Dr. Cosel remind me of Sigmund Freud?

[chineseafro2000]

A strange man...but I love his chicken.

[GNIK222]

thats a sick old dude

[mjmjr2191]

i saw this when i was 8...

[Junka0506]

where can you find a story crazier than this?its unthinkable but very true....things like this happens

[Aaronr525]

This was one of the greatest shows on hbo , why they took it out I dont know

[1910anahi1979]

I would do the same thing if my husband dies! thats how much I love him!

[whiteknightcat]

@1910anahi1979 I'm ever so sloooooowly reachingfor the phone.

[PunkRockFreak09]

Wow... he took infatuation to the next level. I feel for the young women who basically had her dead body taken everywhere and was like raped as she was dead. Sick bastard indeed. This video was good but disturbing.

[Jimboou333]

Thanks for the upload, i was searching for this video when i first saw it in my teens i was just obssessed with it, some relationship they have going on there. i was going through search engines with phrases "psycho preserves body, neighbor complaint about odor" crazy huh? thanks

[26melchiah]

that is not divine love... divine love is loving your God... This is an example of true, eternal undying love between a sane woman and an insane man

[spencer6800]

@26melchiah I agree about the insane part. It seems like they tried to make him out to be an alright guy or something by playing the "true love" card, when he was obviously insane.

[Gorkarth]

fucking sick of love /m/ /m/

[sarabeth1410]

fucking sick dude

[amuslima99]

Hey, did this man LOVE THIS WOMAN, or WHAT ?!

[ilovety65]

@amuslima99 no he was the stalker from hell...she didn't want to marry him.

[karlisch32]

Awww so lovely disturbing!!! :0

[unwell333]

this is incredibly depressing and disturbing. It's sad that somebody could be so crazy about a person to do all this fucked up shit to keep them around. What really makes the story ominous though is the fact that he would play the organ late into the night, and binding her bones with piano wire. Was he just trying to do the creepiest things possible?

[amuslima99]

@unwell333 No, he wasn't even thinking about this as creepy. (Though it was ! ) In my opinion, he was doing "The Norman Bates" . What the psychiatrist (my favorite part of the movie) stated all Norman did to keep the illusion of his mother being alive.(putting on a old ladies' wig, walking around like her, talking like her,keeping her corpse in the root cellar, etc) This is what this man did to this young woman by "keeping her around" in the condition she was...with sex included. Incredible !

[ebuz218]

the horror....!

[MLDRED33]

THANKX FOR THIS UPLOAD.

[asiashappypills]

damn it i was eating my breakfast

[sbkrantz]

@asiashappypills Nasty habits of the creeper FTW... lol sucks!

[MakeDaKittyPURRR]

What a creepo..smh

[AuraAurora]

As much as I like this segment, I love the background music more. Does anyone know what it's called, please?

[Aquamarina13]

I second what @AuraAurora said. I would also like to know what the background music is called.

[Devoti]

"declared sane"... sanity needs a new definition...

[josuefernando89]

Dude thanks. When i was a kid this episode traumatized me.

[Devoti]

@josuefernando89 cool story bro

[josuefernando89]

@Devoti

fuck u ass face. Go find the biggest dick and sit on it.

[Devoti]

@josuefernando89 lol, wut?

[countryhoney28]

This has got to be the most bizarre cases ever shown. When Dr. Baden describes the plastic tube, well, how can one be sane? Just really gross! If this is 'love' then I am doomed to ever find it and I will pass on it altogether.

[KurotsuchiKisuke]

2 of Elena Milagro's family members had watched this video and showed a great deal of disapproval at the end.

[ElliseWith2Ls]

heard this on a key west ghost tour as a child.

[ldylkr]

How is it a love story if she didn't feel the same way?

[kataisa3]

The creepiest Autopsy episode of them all.

[crystalia27]

true love story

[the7thwreck]

@crystalia27 true necrophiliac story, surely the fact that she didnt love him makes it not a 'true love story'

[Rachen30]

@the7thwreck Should read the book "Von Cosel" by Tom Swicegood. There was a promise she wanted him to make to her. He made it his sacred promise.

[the7thwreck]

@Rachen30 A promise she wanted him to make her? I hope it wasnt something she said to him while they were chatting away in the mausoleum....lol

Ill look for the book, this case is just so extraordinary, thanks for the recommendation.

[Rachen30]

@the7thwreck Oh no, it is a promise he made to her while she was still alive. I will make a film about this soon. A master gunsmith and rifle builder in the Old West once said: "A man can only make one masterpiece in his life". I will make this film into a masterpiece to educate people all over the world about true and unconditional love.

[P0IS0N]

@Rachen30 I would be very interested to see the film. I find the story moving and fascinating and I'm sure there's more to it than what we see in reports like this one.

[perypab]

@endsenten THANKS!!

[RockabillyAutopsy]

This reminds me of Faulkner's "A Rose for Emily" except for the reconstruction.

[RockabillyAutopsy]

I'd heard about this and thought it was fake (no names and locations were mentioned). Turned out the creepypasta was true! O_O Eww, that's some creeper obsession.

[twistt]

HE FUCKED IT!?

That's intense.

[toot4me]

I saw this on tv about 10 yrs. ago. I'm going to Key West for New Years.

[luckysod04]

ok whew, good. I thought this was gonna be creepy

[morleyjessica]

This is one of my favorite stories!! I can't believe I found this on here. What a creeper!!!

[MELEAGER7]

AGAIN: BACKGROUND MUSIC IN THE VID!!!! PLS!!!!!

[MrYouKnowWho1975]

I hope nobody finds the body at my house.

[xEmoLov3rx]

Wow... is all that I have to say.

[delsol95si5mt]

sane?

[sezums]

If the man was proven sane, he could not have had sex with the decomposing body surely?

[tbeat03]

the autopsy body video scene showed here appears to be the same as the other pictures of Elena's body over the net. I'm wondering if the autopsy was videotaped or was this footage a reconstruction of the scene?

[MELEAGER7]

background music in the vid, pls!!!!???? anybody!!!!

[ShaylaShaw]

Poor guy :(

[Rachen30]

@ShaylaShaw Von Cosel's love for Elena was divine. Where else would you find someone who cares about a person so much that they would give up everything they had, career, and friends, just to care for that person? She always told him that she would marry him when she got well, but the unthinkable happened. Carl was strong to have faced the loss of his loved one and still live on. I know I would have took a pistol round instead. I read about this just at the same time I heard the song...

[ShaylaShaw]

@Rachen30 Yes, very tragic, and like no other love story I've heard, in terms of dedication--even though most would find it demented.

[Rachen30]

@ShaylaShaw If only people read the novel by Tom Swicegood, then they will learn about what really happened. I am working on an independant film that will tell the story of Von Cosel and Elena, word for word, as in the novel. This story is worthy of the hardest effort and devotion to create the perfect movie.

[turtles12]

@Rachen30 where else would you find someone willing to raid a cemetery, steal a corpse, encase it in wax as its skin slowly sloughed off, embed glass balls into its eye sockets, insert a tube into its rotting pelvis so that it could be fucked? Probably rotting in hell. Funny thing is she didn't even love the sick freak. Stop defending necrophiliacs and criminals. asshole.

[Rachen30]

@turtles12 Read the book "Von Cosel" before making immature comments :) This is the problem with America today; people don't read anymore. I think we should bring back literacy tests at voting polls and poll taxes, etc...

[turtles12]

@Rachen30 you state that as if this is all fact because it is in a book, now I know you're a necrophiliac sympathizer but are you also a retard?

[Rachen30]

@turtles12 Well I guess you can say that, but at least I don't turn people against me everywhere I go. I was having a blast reading comments left on your channel. You must not get very far in life without making a lot of people hate you everywhere you turn, is that correct?

[Rachen30]

@ShaylaShaw (continued) "Whiskey Lullaby", and it made me cry for a very long time.

[dirtpipedan]

@Rachen30 thaaaats cuz youre fuckin crazy. get a life.

[Rachen30]

@dirtpipedan Get a life? My life is wearing hardhats, hauling freight, swinging hammers, and building this country. What have you ever done? White collar, sitting in front of a word processor BS doesn't count as work in my opinion. Come to the iron mining area in the badlands, I'll show you a job that will wear any other man down within an hour.

[montey1]

Fucking nuts.

[Rachen30]

The "vaginal tube" part is completely fictional. The doctors never mentioned it in 1942. They only mentioned it in 1972, when they were probably retired from the medical profession, and needed money, so the new story was made.

[LudicrousScotty101]

declared to be sane! ha

[Rachen30]

@LudicrousScotty101 Like I posted in a reply to another person, at that time, the condition for "sanity" was far more strict than we have now. Too many people associate this story with gothic horror and Halloween themes. I think that it is both heartwarming and so sad at the same time. It should be remembered with country and folk songs, not stupid haunted house sounds. Fuck, I need another Jack Daniels.

[LudicrousScotty101]

@Rachen30 Jack Daniels heh heh thats cool.

[dirtpipedan]

@Rachen30 How is it heartwarming??? you are fucking crazy!

It was reported that Hoyos NEVER once reciprocated ANY feelings for this creepy old dude. He was obsessed, sick person.

[Rachen30]

@dirtpipedan Read "Von Cosel", by Tom Swicegood. READ IT, then come talk to me. It's on Google Books. Von Cosel tried to save a life in a time when the whole world was trying to rip each other's throat out.

[Rachen30]

@dirtpipedan Swicegood did almost 30 years of research before writing his book. He will tell you everything there is about this story. READ THE BOOK.

[Rachen30]

@leelahutt1 Ah ok. Same to you

[Rachen30]

@leelahutt1 (continued) the S&W Model 29 I had under my overcoat. But he moved off the railroad premises after I told him politely. Now that is crazy.

[Rachen30]

@leelahutt1 Well, at that time, psych standards were far more restrictive than now. At that time, something as simple as OCD would have landed you in a state psych ward. Today, there are schizophrenics walking the streets. Met one in a WVA railyard when I was starting up locomotives for a night manifest run. Beam from my Petromax lantern caught him off guard and he was talking a lot of nonsense. Violent type. My hand that was not holding the lantern almost went to

[Rachen30]

@leelahutt1 (continued) The court did try to do a psych test on Tanzler after the "arrest", but he was sane. After he moved to Zephyrhills, he wrote his own biography about him and Elena, but the editor for Fantastic Adventures Magazine made him shorten it to a novella so it can fit in the periodical. That edition was published in September 1947.

[Rachen30]

@leelahutt1 Yes, I am aware of that. There is another book called "Von Cosel", written by Tom Swicegood who actually met Von Cosel when Tom was in the Navy and stationed down in Florida. Tanzler actually received his Elena back, because Tom verified that the "sculpture" in Tanzler's Zephyrhills home was indeed Elena. His account was very similar to Ben Harrison's account, although the two authors never met each other.

[Rachen30]

@leelahutt1 I read the book too, it was really good, but Tanzler did not suffer from hallucinations. Elena's spirit actually saved his life when the ruins of a fishing trawler collapsed on top of him during the storm, helped him find his way out of the wreckage. It was a heartwarming story. Reminded me of the railroad mens' folktales of ghostly lights who helped trapped miners find their way out of a Kentucky coal shaft after a gas explosion sealed the exit.

[Rachen30]

A year ago, as I was driving through Key West with a few other people, I stopped at a section of beach not too far from the old Marine Hospital where Tanzler and Elena used to walk together when she was still alive. I drew my S&W Model 29 in .44 Magnum (loaded with blanks of course), and fired a six shot salute into the sky for both of them. The cartridges, fully packed with 45 grains of FFFg black powder, made a sound truly like thunder and lit up a very large area with each blast.

[blastbeatdown]

seeing this show as a kid, this case stuck out the most in my memory. truly disturbing. thanks for the upload

[pengwen333]

I thought this was really really sad...Twisted, but still sad. All he wanted was to be with her :(

[MsBatista85]

THIS IS SO ROMANTIC TO ME THE POWER OF LOVE NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME.

[Rachen30]

@MsBatista85 Indeed. I passed through the area where they lived, and the beach that they walked on. That night we parked my big M35A1 truck on the beach and sat around a bonfire telling this story. I had a banjo, one of the other guys had a violin, and suddenly this beach was filled with the beautiful tune of "Great High Mountains", and "Wayfaring Stranger". (All of us in the truck were railroad men who worked in Appalachia coal country :D) It seemed like the perfect songs to remember them.

[LittleEdensRage]

thank you for putting this up. a few years ago I went on a miami ghost tour and the funeral home is still up but obviously boarded up, and we visited it and also his home, and the graveyard. Very very scary hearing the story and going to the actual sites at night. I was so fascinated by this story..knowing what obsession/infatuation can do to a person..it can go way too far. so morbid. and in a weird way, so...touching.

[MELEAGER7]

can anyone please tell me where can I find the main music theme of this video? pleaseeeee!!!!

[Nightman221k]

Why in the world would the family of Elena put her defiled body on exhibit like that?! Isn't it enough that some sick fuck dug her up and did that to her that they had to make her even more of a spectacle after she died. If I was her ghost and that was my body I'd haunt them all!

[stephjuhler999]

This is kinda sick. However, it's rare to find someone who will love you for your whole life.

[Nightman221k]

@stephjuhler999 I think I'll stick with "Till DEATH do us part" but that's just me. Yuck, the autopsy parts I couldn't even watch.

[stephjuhler999]

@Nightman221k I also almost vomited at the sight of the corpse. However, the doctor doesn't seem to mind so to each his own.

[gtp77]

@stephjuhler999

It's just a dead person, dude. It's not even seeing someone die. It's sad, but its not vomit inducing gross.

[stephjuhler999]

@gtp77 I know I was just exaggerating to prove my point, dude.

[doppingqnk]

yeahh nice idea

[jenbarrand]

This should make a chick-flick out of this story! It should be called "Rigor Court-is"

[escampadeiro]

zup ng

[COMboy112]

WHATS UP NEWGROUNDS.

Seriously, what the fuck.

[COMboy112]

WHATS UP, NEWGROUNDS.

[conorpacman]

Weird romance.

[IuIz7]

Dr. Von Awesome.

[visionimagify]

Man. I remember when I was about 12 and seeing this at night once. Boy, oh boy did suffer some nightmares for almost a month. This still scares me.

[Mikex87]

@visionimagify This one and Belle of them All will haunt me forever. Belle is worse to me

[GoukiTehPwner]

@visionimagify I was around that age too when I first watched it. Scared the shit out of me and still does to this day. I make the mistake of thinking about this randomly when I fall asleep at night and boy does it keep me up and scared.

[zananyasgrandma]

Great story ! Thanks for the post !!

[666765h]

just gross to think people like that exist

[Rachen30]

@666765h Actually, he was a person who strived to protect and preserve, during a time when many around the world were trying their best to kill each other in the most gruesome ways.

[bettescorpio]

Hell yeah!! i wanted my friend to see this video!! thanks for posting!!!!!

[OnclePop]

is this love ? ;)

[seiyalink]

This one is the most bizarre of all...