look up daniel dingle... he has a few cars running on hydrogen, however they are only using a 0.5-5A electrical pulse to split water and his can and does sustain itself off of the one battery in the car! check it out, you can build one easily and its CHEAP!! also the hydrogen is on demand! so there is no storage unit. it produces vast amounts more hydrogen than the "brute force" way that you are doing it, with little or no waste. the cell stays cool
From the comments it looks as if you've been having some kind of argument about the point of this engine?
You do realize straight petrol would be cheaper than unnecessarily burning fossil fuel to generate the electricity to perform the electrolysis don't you?
I mean, all this engine does is demonstrate what we already know about water cleavage. It's very fucking expensive. In this case, in the region of 300W~
@waterboost I'm more of a surprise than an insult sugar tits. You haven't made a self running water engine. Sorry. The bonds in water are far too stable in this atmosphere with this chemistry. If it wasn't so, the planet wouldn't be two thirds covered by it.
Slightly insane people have always pushed the cutting edge of technology. So carry on driving for efficiency, that's fantastic. Just don't tell people you've done the physically impossible... you might end up believing your own hype.
@ourben Yea look here dummy...I have heard that said by others that also do not have there facts strait. Have you ever heard of wind or solar power??? Then you can make your hydrogen from that "green" power thus no fossil fuel at all.
How many amps / volts are being used in the electrolosis setup you have? you mentioned 30 amps, but what is the voltage? I'm curious of the wattage it uses. amps * volts
So 360 Watts is equivalent to 1/2 of a horsepower to run a lawnmower engine at idle capable of doing no useful work. Has NASA been informed of this important new discovery
@1smoker75 - The only important discovery today is that YOU... whoever that is... ARE a retard... stop posting on all my vids... at least I am real, my kit is real and I know who I am... Do U?
Now now temper temper!...don't post video's on the internet if you can't handle positive and negative feedback. I used to call people names when I lost an argument............when I was a 6 year old in the playground
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here is an idea : Try directing HHO throu a tube or injector, and spray cold water midst into the engine through the air intake. the hydrogen will not be sufficient to power an engine on its own, but it can give enough energy to vaporize more than a few drops of water. the expansion of water molecules should push the piston quite firmly. this way there is no need to produce large amounts of hho and no gasoline is need either.
I don't know how that happened. My comment was intended for the vid showing a group of guys standing around their glass bottles that blew up. Not one was wearing any eye protection. Luckly no one was hurt.
I am so sick of hearing about these stupid water powered engines. Tip; The first law of thermodynamics, look it up.
oh, and Hydrogen only ever forms one bond, you know like how in a water molecule the oxygen has two bonds, and has a hydrogen attached to each, feel free to wiki it if you want to prove me wrong. This means that the only thing you can get out of your little electrolysis device is H2 / O2, not some mythical HHO
Not everything fits into the first law and we have laughed at it many times... I have met Doctors, PHD's and all manner of scientists and they get upset too until they see the kit in action ;)
Not everything in your school books is correct and it is all based on assumptions... I dont agree with the use of the term HHO but there is definately more than H2 and O2 leaving the system...
This is probably due to the fact that we dont use distilled or dionised water...
feel free to laugh at it all you like, but everything does in fact comply with the first law.
If you want to disprove this, and the test would be easy, you should do so, and submit your results to any energy producer, they'd pay you millions for it.
Here's what you do, take your whole setup out into the yard or leave it where it is but with no connections to anything else. Run it under some form of load, an obvious one would be to recharge the battery running the electrolyser. The aim would be to be able to run it indefinately with only having to top up the water (mechanical breakages aside), kinda like a petrol engine can. Best of luck, let me know how you go, if you can prove it's breaking the first law, I'll give you $5000 no questions.
Many of the scientists who founded thermodynamics were conscious of its failings and sought to formulate a more complete theory.
The science of thermodynamics, of which the second law is only one part, dates to an era of technological optimism, the mid-19th century, when steam engines were transforming the world
Thermodynamics is one of the most widely misunderstood branches of physics.
It applies only when the system under study is in a quiescent state called equilibrium.
I am honestly worried for the human race when people actually talk like they believe this crap.
Do yourself and everyone a favour, do a rigorous experiment and don't just believe everything you read online, there's far too many scams out there.
Beware the allure of wishful thinking, you will believe it to be true simply because you want it to be true. Open your mind to the possibilty that you are wrong, and learn from it.
If I had such terminal tunnel vision I would still be paying for central heating!
Its you who needs to experiment young fellow! I usually presume that idiots like you are on wages to annoy free thinking individuals like me...
You are suggesting that the business I have worked on for 4 years is a load of jizz based on silly internet stories... we did the experiements, hence the conviction... we have a few self running machines but dont want people like you near them! Bad Vibes man...
don't feel bad though, everyone makes mistakes. Best to come to terms with it early and make better use of your remaining time, than to flog a dead horse.
Wow, scotticus has a real problem. I'm still not sure of the motive behind the argument.. He acts like a goverment agency handling a cover up.. It's uncle sam! he's trying to keep this under raps. Anyway it's too funny. I've been messing around with a small system to put in my old 4 cylinder truck with a carburetor. I'm no expert mechanic so I need to find the best place to hook it to the intake.. There's a line that draws a good vacuum into the carb that hooks to the pcv vallve... any ideas? :)
put it right inside the manifold after the carb, as close to the cylinder inlet valve as you can with a really small pipe to maintain gas pressure and fit a tap to turn your air intake off so the engine cannot get air ;)
@waterboost It doesn't apply to equilibrium, it describes its evolution. Thermodynamics describes how chaos tends to equilibrium. You can't get out more than you put in.
I have to agree about the preignition, it is the biggest problem to overcome in a hydrogen engine. You must completely smooth everything in the combustion chamber or a hot spot will light the charge too early. This is why people who actually developed this technology only run like 10-20% hydrogen coupled with a junk fuel such as terpenes and what not. Pure H just does not work well in a gas motor. Do a little research and you will find that alcohol (from cattails) is the answer, not hydrogen
the backfiring is from pre ignition, the air fuel mix is igniting off warm surfaces. You want cold plugs and force air into cylinder before Hydrogen. Also producing H2 and O2 in the same space is deadly. If that warms it will ignite.
Well 360W of power to generate just enough to barely keep that motor running. How much energy are you getting at the flywheel? I would guess its less than 360W, being such an expert i would have thought youd be running it off the engine instead of the grid, but you not solved that yet??
how many volts are you using i made a generator and it was using i think 160 amps when tested at the auto electrician and he said if i bump up the volts cause i was going to use it in my 24 volt truck. 24 volts would use half the amps so my question is what is the best mix of volts to productivity and how much hho would i need to run a 13 hp on a 5 kva generator to acually make a resource that will save money and in areas with no power it would change peoples lives from water.
What Tank? You retard! You just dont get it do you? Its water... then HHO... then it gets used... Have you read any of the 68 comments or the description at the top?
Is Hydrogen a viable alternative fuel for cars? ...I do know that hydrogen can be easily produced, using solar and wind power for electrolysis of water. !!!
Dont forget the oxygen... conventional electrolysis makes hydrogen and oxygen seperately... then the oxygen is usually exhausted??? Common duct hydrogen and oxygen is a far more powerful fuel but it cant be stored, it has to be used... hydrogen and oxygen on demand...
Are you saying it wouldn't be worth the trouble to have a wind turbines induce electrolysis, resulting in reservoirs of hydrogen and reservoirs of oxygen? Do you have a website for additional info?
I belive the engine is running quiet due to lack of HHO. The engine is running a slower RPM than idle and has very little power. Need to ramp of the HHO production.
Excuses excuses... "It isn't slower until it slows down"? What kind of stupid reply is that? It slowed down! Why did it slow down? I answer: Barely enough fuel to maintain idle. Not enough production for any kind of throttle! Get back to work and increase the HHO output! And keep up the good work. ;)
I was using a tap, not a thread valve... it was easy to waste gas, but there was plenty... The gas machine was poorly as it happened... someone used alloy rivets inside!
I'm using injectors on my next project... a 650cc KLR! My research has been directed towards seals... waterboost packaging is done...
it is very quiet , I am not expert in this area but the other normal combustion engines I have seen that made work on hydrogen sounded as usual with gasoline fuel, nowhere as quiet and magical as this?
All questions involving an orifice are kinda sketchy, right? ;-)
I believe Mythbusters did the same thing with compressed hydrogen and a GM 305, so It can be done with carburated engines already in existence. Now we need to produce mass amounts of the stuff.
Regular gas tank? Retrofit the carburetor with backfire retarder and you're good to go....
Remember: I make replies on the fly, so DO NOT ATTEMPT THAT AT HOME unless you've studied into it, and if you have, and it works, How much to retrofit my truck here in Arkansas, where Gas is currently $3.80/gallon?
I might be missing something here, but is it safe to have a cylinder ful of HHO while playing with fire at the other end? I might be wrong here, but can you please clarify this point. Thaks
what cylinder? we are making it as we are using it? The unit is strong enough to take a full explosion at 6psi... and makes a hard thud and you see light... but its safer than pharmacutical medication!
OK, I get it now. Thanks for getting back on this. I wrongly assumed that the red cylinder in the background was supplying your HHO. Keep up the good work, its very interesting!
If you had bothered to read the posts and info, we didnt change the timing and the carb is still there... and the carb still works, we started it on petrol...read man...read properly before you put your foot in your mouth like so many before you ;)
Hi there love your video i would like to learn more on hydrogen cells would there be any chance you could tell me how to build your cell or where to get the plans to make it and do you recon you could eventually start the engine on pure hydrogen what volts do you pass throught the cell and do you add soda powder or something called lye ? many thanks
We tried to stop all the air going in on the basis that if we didnt the manifold might blow the gas back out... back pressure...2 taps on a t-piece fitted to a flat plate where the air filter was... It isnt air tight perfect, but it works...I have some needle valve taps so I can try and regulate the HHO flow better next time...
Hydrogen works better without a carb. You do not want back pressure. Back pressure on idle is needed to burn gasoline. Hydrogen needs 100% Air input. When i get my car done ill show you what i mean
It was straight hydrogen (with oxygen) when the petrol ran out? Hydrogen doesnt go through the carb! Hydrogen?100% air? I think you will find we did it right and your going the wrong way ;)
Ok look i work on engines too. Now im not certified However i do know a few things. You can still alter timeing even though its mechanical. You need to get off the gasoline setting you will get alot more bang for the buck
The red cable has the HHO in it? it is pushed onto the end of the acetylene torch so I could use the torch as a flow control...
The engine dies because the gas machine broke inside... I used 2 alloy rivets to hold it temporarily inside... I'll do another video when I have time... at 30 amps the unit produces well over 1.5 litres per minute...
Excelent work, your setup works quite nicely. It would be interesting to add an alternator or dynamo to power the electrolyizer to keep the engine running, i guess you may need to use a battery to gain a head of pressure on the cell to jet into the engine, but after its on, it should be self sustaining, provided you can overcome the losses with the system. keep up the good work!
like i said in my previous post, for the interest values of the experiment it would be cool to try. I forgive you for your remarks.
Yes you are correct in the fact that the system has losses. Nobody can argue that.
My goal is to create an alternive fuel system for the perpose of running engines. I believe it could be almost sustainable if the methods for producing the hydrogen were studied and made more efficent.
i have this same engine i just took off an old lawnmower b&s (briggs and straton) i'm looking to make it run on hho but i'm not sure how to connect this to my motor to make it work please let me know what you did i took my carb off to try somethings but if need be i can put it on
You can keep the amps the same, but make the cell tank airtight and add a pressure regulator valve normally found on air compressors and gas welders. This way u don't have to worry bout the amps, u just adjust the reg valve... and control it from there
Great job guys! Anyone that gets it to run on HHO has really accomplished something. Now, did you have to delay the timing of the ignition more towards the top? I hear a company called Autotronics sells a delay mechanism for such motors. Also, was the carb removed from this engine?
Hello! Verry interesting. But I have saw that "Mythbusters" put hydrogen in carburator, and the car worked! So do the car need to run on Gasoline or Diesel. Which one will it be?
Myth Busters? It was out of a bottle... Myth Busters are Wankers! They made a Bedini that didnt work (Forgot the magnets?) They fitted a HHO fuel enhancer and didnt connect the power!
For the hydrogen production, can't you just get a solar panel or a small duty wind turbine and hook it up to a homemade electrolyser. Wouldn't that work for hydrogen production?
you want perpetual watch my video. You don't understand say so. because this doesn't know perpetual. You want a test hook it up to a city. You guys have no idea what hydrogen is doing, now your trying to take it out of water
I saw a vid on here. Timing was spark at top dead center.They let as much air in the engine through the carb as they could get.Gas was in through a 16th inch valve right at the intake port. Seams like putting as much air as possible and as little gas or lean is the way. Possitive air pressure would be cool i think. Timing would be the most important though. hho burns so fast. Dont want the pre det. Good work.
I think the video you have seen uses hydrogen from a bottle... It has no Oxygen in it and the engine needs to breath...The 16th inch valve is to ensure the hydrogen goes in at pressure...Maintaining more pressure in the line stops flashbacks... If the engine ignited it would just light the flame at the end like a torch, the flame would blow itself out on the next piston stroke... You can get a motor to run without changing the timing... You adjust the timing after to get it supper sweet ;)
great job. i have seen elsewhere a reduction of power came from a better water separater, wich would imply the combustion process liked the water vapour.even h2o burns when hyd is present. Likely only oxy is released from the vapour. i have recently purchased a pond fogger. very small water molecules. iam hoping to do some running tests soon with a fogger inject as well as an hho inject on my lawnmer. thought u might like some food 4 thought from a canuck buck
I do Know. V=IR, so I should have said OR - no biggie. Still, if you think about PV=nRT, the rate of production of H and O2 gas is way to little to run an engine, even w/ huge Amperage. I have run electrolysis at 1400 Volts, so I know that there are still not enough bubbles.
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Electrolysis (breaking water into flammable gas) has been around for almost 200 years. Do you really think you're the first genius that thought of piping it into a internal combustion engine?
Sell this nonsense to some fool that never finished high school. Come to think of it, that's probably the idea.
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All the gullible people forget, it takes money to pay for the electricity that generates the "free" hydrogen. Why not put a dollar's worth of gasoline in the tank instead of two dollars worth of hydrogen.
If you think you can put one of these in your car, think again. The gas your engine wastes generating electricity exceeds the gas you save burning hydrogen.
Read the "hydrogen vehicle" wiki.
If this guy is selling something, don't buy it, unless he pays your electric bill.
Mmm, met your type before! It took 30amps at 12v to run this engine... Ur telling me this motor cant generate that much electricity?! I suppose doubling the mpg on my old golf is a waste of time too;)
I have been selling these units and I will be selling more of them... But not to blind donkeys like you ;)
I've worked on these for 2 years, I wouldnt have bothered if the results werent so impressive...
What are you saying, that you get the 30amps and 12v from the motor thats running here??? If not, why not. You say it can produce it. I'm not a sceptic but i'm not stupid either! If you are getting your electricity from the same motor then that really is something but i suspect that's not the case. Why do you want to imply that you are? Please prove me wrong.
You've got to remember the inherent power contained in water. Most people make the mistake of thinking water is just some weak lifeless fluid and has no extra power within. Wrongo! When you use energy to split water much more energy is released......from the water;) Try it before you debunk it by reading a "wiki" LOL
Wonderful wonderful, atleast someone isnt repeating what the others have done. You arent saying you invented it, you are mearly tinkering with it, and from what I can see (and im no scientist) it seems you have cracked it :)
You can be very proud of that engine running on HHO. I can hardly wait to see further videos. Hope you will show us some more... I can't express how much I appreciate this video! Every single step towards 'hydrogen on demand' is important to finally crush those lousy oil morons.
waterboost, Great work!!! But is 1.5 LPM enough to match engine's volume? I mean a few strok would have reach 1.5 LPM unless you let the air leak thru the cell. thnaks
- The engine is unharmed, I wouldnt do it with a 2stroke because of the lack of lubrication in the fuel but the engine is a four stroke...
The fuel cell (dont laugh) was held together inside with aluminium rivets!? I knew they wouldnt last long... You cant hear it on the video but the gas machine started making a cht,cht,cht noise as it was arcing inside and not making an earth connection.
look up daniel dingle... he has a few cars running on hydrogen, however they are only using a 0.5-5A electrical pulse to split water and his can and does sustain itself off of the one battery in the car! check it out, you can build one easily and its CHEAP!! also the hydrogen is on demand! so there is no storage unit. it produces vast amounts more hydrogen than the "brute force" way that you are doing it, with little or no waste. the cell stays cool
88festivasam 11 months ago
I thoght everything was going to be ok once we started using roll on dedorant. Dosent matter what use E=Mc2 once you run out of m there is no E.
JerseyJoe130 1 year ago
From the comments it looks as if you've been having some kind of argument about the point of this engine?
You do realize straight petrol would be cheaper than unnecessarily burning fossil fuel to generate the electricity to perform the electrolysis don't you?
I mean, all this engine does is demonstrate what we already know about water cleavage. It's very fucking expensive. In this case, in the region of 300W~
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben - Sorry to insult you, but you seem to be a bit stupid and short sighted!
waterboost 1 year ago 2
@waterboost I'm more of a surprise than an insult sugar tits. You haven't made a self running water engine. Sorry. The bonds in water are far too stable in this atmosphere with this chemistry. If it wasn't so, the planet wouldn't be two thirds covered by it.
Slightly insane people have always pushed the cutting edge of technology. So carry on driving for efficiency, that's fantastic. Just don't tell people you've done the physically impossible... you might end up believing your own hype.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben I'm = it's
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben Yea look here dummy...I have heard that said by others that also do not have there facts strait. Have you ever heard of wind or solar power??? Then you can make your hydrogen from that "green" power thus no fossil fuel at all.
frankiethedrill 11 months ago
@frankiethedrill Yeah but that's not what we're talking about is it.
ourben 11 months ago
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frankiethedrill 11 months ago
This is NOTHING new... Check out Jack Nicholson talking about Hydrogen cars in The 70s...............
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Stgopena1212 1 year ago
How many amps / volts are being used in the electrolosis setup you have? you mentioned 30 amps, but what is the voltage? I'm curious of the wattage it uses. amps * volts
localbroadcast 1 year ago
12v... 20-30 amps... 240-360 watts
waterboost 1 year ago
@waterboost
So 360 Watts is equivalent to 1/2 of a horsepower to run a lawnmower engine at idle capable of doing no useful work. Has NASA been informed of this important new discovery
1smoker75 4 months ago
@1smoker75 - The only important discovery today is that YOU... whoever that is... ARE a retard... stop posting on all my vids... at least I am real, my kit is real and I know who I am... Do U?
waterboost 4 months ago
@waterboost
Now now temper temper!...don't post video's on the internet if you can't handle positive and negative feedback. I used to call people names when I lost an argument............when I was a 6 year old in the playground
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conceil8 2 years ago
warterboost, Thank you for sharing! I am building a mini jet-engine and EMS/FMS/OBD that uses HHO also.. I will keep you posted!:)
turbovectorz 2 years ago
would love to see a HHO jet engine :)
waterboost 2 years ago
here is an idea : Try directing HHO throu a tube or injector, and spray cold water midst into the engine through the air intake. the hydrogen will not be sufficient to power an engine on its own, but it can give enough energy to vaporize more than a few drops of water. the expansion of water molecules should push the piston quite firmly. this way there is no need to produce large amounts of hho and no gasoline is need either.
kurdishmob 2 years ago
Two words - SAFETY GLASSES!!
bbmac4856 2 years ago
what for? ;)
waterboost 2 years ago
I don't know how that happened. My comment was intended for the vid showing a group of guys standing around their glass bottles that blew up. Not one was wearing any eye protection. Luckly no one was hurt.
bbmac4856 2 years ago
we implode hydrogen in glass bottles all the time... they never break...
waterboost 2 years ago
I am so sick of hearing about these stupid water powered engines. Tip; The first law of thermodynamics, look it up.
oh, and Hydrogen only ever forms one bond, you know like how in a water molecule the oxygen has two bonds, and has a hydrogen attached to each, feel free to wiki it if you want to prove me wrong. This means that the only thing you can get out of your little electrolysis device is H2 / O2, not some mythical HHO
Scotticus1982 2 years ago
Not everything fits into the first law and we have laughed at it many times... I have met Doctors, PHD's and all manner of scientists and they get upset too until they see the kit in action ;)
Not everything in your school books is correct and it is all based on assumptions... I dont agree with the use of the term HHO but there is definately more than H2 and O2 leaving the system...
This is probably due to the fact that we dont use distilled or dionised water...
anyway, who asked you? :)
waterboost 2 years ago
feel free to laugh at it all you like, but everything does in fact comply with the first law.
If you want to disprove this, and the test would be easy, you should do so, and submit your results to any energy producer, they'd pay you millions for it.
Scotticus1982 2 years ago
Here's what you do, take your whole setup out into the yard or leave it where it is but with no connections to anything else. Run it under some form of load, an obvious one would be to recharge the battery running the electrolyser. The aim would be to be able to run it indefinately with only having to top up the water (mechanical breakages aside), kinda like a petrol engine can. Best of luck, let me know how you go, if you can prove it's breaking the first law, I'll give you $5000 no questions.
Scotticus1982 2 years ago
Everything does not in any fact comply to the first law... There are kits available online that show you how to disprove!
I dont submit to anyone! Certainly not a nasty energy producer!
As I said... who asked you?
waterboost 2 years ago
Many of the scientists who founded thermodynamics were conscious of its failings and sought to formulate a more complete theory.
The science of thermodynamics, of which the second law is only one part, dates to an era of technological optimism, the mid-19th century, when steam engines were transforming the world
Thermodynamics is one of the most widely misunderstood branches of physics.
It applies only when the system under study is in a quiescent state called equilibrium.
waterboost 2 years ago
I am honestly worried for the human race when people actually talk like they believe this crap.
Do yourself and everyone a favour, do a rigorous experiment and don't just believe everything you read online, there's far too many scams out there.
Beware the allure of wishful thinking, you will believe it to be true simply because you want it to be true. Open your mind to the possibilty that you are wrong, and learn from it.
Scotticus1982 2 years ago
If I had such terminal tunnel vision I would still be paying for central heating!
Its you who needs to experiment young fellow! I usually presume that idiots like you are on wages to annoy free thinking individuals like me...
You are suggesting that the business I have worked on for 4 years is a load of jizz based on silly internet stories... we did the experiements, hence the conviction... we have a few self running machines but dont want people like you near them! Bad Vibes man...
waterboost 2 years ago
I'm not suggesting, I'm telling you.
don't feel bad though, everyone makes mistakes. Best to come to terms with it early and make better use of your remaining time, than to flog a dead horse.
Scotticus1982 2 years ago
Stop telling me! Its falling on stoney ground... I know it works, I have been making them for 4 years...
I have demonstrated at Universities and for Government groups... and there is always a dick like you sulking at the back ;)
Go and get yourself a job or a puppy to look after!
waterboost 2 years ago
Wow, scotticus has a real problem. I'm still not sure of the motive behind the argument.. He acts like a goverment agency handling a cover up.. It's uncle sam! he's trying to keep this under raps. Anyway it's too funny. I've been messing around with a small system to put in my old 4 cylinder truck with a carburetor. I'm no expert mechanic so I need to find the best place to hook it to the intake.. There's a line that draws a good vacuum into the carb that hooks to the pcv vallve... any ideas? :)
Gelroos1337 2 years ago
put it right inside the manifold after the carb, as close to the cylinder inlet valve as you can with a really small pipe to maintain gas pressure and fit a tap to turn your air intake off so the engine cannot get air ;)
waterboost 2 years ago
@waterboost You haven't demonstrated them to anyone. Don't lie. Worse yet, don't believe your own lies.
ourben 1 year ago
@waterboost Ye.. no you don't. If you did you'd save the world. Or in the very least get laid.
ourben 1 year ago
@waterboost It doesn't apply to equilibrium, it describes its evolution. Thermodynamics describes how chaos tends to equilibrium. You can't get out more than you put in.
ourben 1 year ago
Stan Meyers mixed the HHO with non-combustible gasses cooled from the exhaust. Check out his patents, a lot of the answers are there.
striplar 2 years ago
more questions than answers where Stan is concerned :)
waterboost 2 years ago
I have to agree about the preignition, it is the biggest problem to overcome in a hydrogen engine. You must completely smooth everything in the combustion chamber or a hot spot will light the charge too early. This is why people who actually developed this technology only run like 10-20% hydrogen coupled with a junk fuel such as terpenes and what not. Pure H just does not work well in a gas motor. Do a little research and you will find that alcohol (from cattails) is the answer, not hydrogen
crankbearing 2 years ago
crank ;)
waterboost 2 years ago
OMG if you wait it becomes like well quiet
Spikenighnt123 2 years ago
you call this SMOOTH and QUIET???? hahaha!
xXturbo86Xx 2 years ago
yes... did you not wait until half way through? listen to it!
waterboost 2 years ago
i watched it all.....not smooth not quiet.period
xXturbo86Xx 2 years ago
then you are clueless ;)
but thanks for thinking your comment mattered!
waterboost 2 years ago
the backfiring is from pre ignition, the air fuel mix is igniting off warm surfaces. You want cold plugs and force air into cylinder before Hydrogen. Also producing H2 and O2 in the same space is deadly. If that warms it will ignite.
hydrohobbyist 2 years ago
yeh... thanks mate... but thats nonsense ;)
waterboost 2 years ago
Well 360W of power to generate just enough to barely keep that motor running. How much energy are you getting at the flywheel? I would guess its less than 360W, being such an expert i would have thought youd be running it off the engine instead of the grid, but you not solved that yet??
hydrohobbyist 2 years ago
Guess what? no flywheel... guess what? not connected to the grid... just a 12v battery ;)
we did this 3 years ago... the world isnt ready for more... yet ;)
waterboost 2 years ago
HAHA, O.......K......Not
hydrohobbyist 2 years ago
how many volts are you using i made a generator and it was using i think 160 amps when tested at the auto electrician and he said if i bump up the volts cause i was going to use it in my 24 volt truck. 24 volts would use half the amps so my question is what is the best mix of volts to productivity and how much hho would i need to run a 13 hp on a 5 kva generator to acually make a resource that will save money and in areas with no power it would change peoples lives from water.
scottman12 3 years ago
You can not do this with jam jars... no matter how many spirals and how much glue...
Dont buy plastic rubbish... or jam jars with stainless wire.
waterboost 3 years ago
cool until you crach and blow up the tank! ya look up Hydrogen bomb!!
trevor22333 3 years ago
What Tank? You retard! You just dont get it do you? Its water... then HHO... then it gets used... Have you read any of the 68 comments or the description at the top?
waterboost 3 years ago
haha, you got told, lol
vhghe 3 years ago 2
Is Hydrogen a viable alternative fuel for cars? ...I do know that hydrogen can be easily produced, using solar and wind power for electrolysis of water. !!!
surrealdirector 3 years ago
Dont forget the oxygen... conventional electrolysis makes hydrogen and oxygen seperately... then the oxygen is usually exhausted??? Common duct hydrogen and oxygen is a far more powerful fuel but it cant be stored, it has to be used... hydrogen and oxygen on demand...
waterboost 3 years ago
Are you saying it wouldn't be worth the trouble to have a wind turbines induce electrolysis, resulting in reservoirs of hydrogen and reservoirs of oxygen? Do you have a website for additional info?
surrealdirector 3 years ago
I belive the engine is running quiet due to lack of HHO. The engine is running a slower RPM than idle and has very little power. Need to ramp of the HHO production.
atr69x 3 years ago
It isnt slower until it slows down... it had plenty power and no flywheel... I do need to have another play with it but I have been a bit busy...
waterboost 3 years ago
Excuses excuses... "It isn't slower until it slows down"? What kind of stupid reply is that? It slowed down! Why did it slow down? I answer: Barely enough fuel to maintain idle. Not enough production for any kind of throttle! Get back to work and increase the HHO output! And keep up the good work. ;)
atr69x 3 years ago
I was using a tap, not a thread valve... it was easy to waste gas, but there was plenty... The gas machine was poorly as it happened... someone used alloy rivets inside!
I'm using injectors on my next project... a 650cc KLR! My research has been directed towards seals... waterboost packaging is done...
waterboost 3 years ago
Injection, now were talking! Can't wait.
atr69x 3 years ago
it is very quiet , I am not expert in this area but the other normal combustion engines I have seen that made work on hydrogen sounded as usual with gasoline fuel, nowhere as quiet and magical as this?
Thanx keep up the nice stuff running:D
kalle
leviterande 3 years ago
what size orifice did you use at the intake please?
BillyJackets 3 years ago
at which point?
thats a sketchy question...
waterboost 3 years ago
All questions involving an orifice are kinda sketchy, right? ;-)
I believe Mythbusters did the same thing with compressed hydrogen and a GM 305, so It can be done with carburated engines already in existence. Now we need to produce mass amounts of the stuff.
Hiei2k7 3 years ago
I can easily make 20,000 litres but where do I put it?
waterboost 3 years ago
hmm.
Regular gas tank? Retrofit the carburetor with backfire retarder and you're good to go....
Remember: I make replies on the fly, so DO NOT ATTEMPT THAT AT HOME unless you've studied into it, and if you have, and it works, How much to retrofit my truck here in Arkansas, where Gas is currently $3.80/gallon?
Hiei2k7 3 years ago
$3.80... Thats cheap as f@@k
we pay £1.30 per litre...
Thats over $2 per litre...
double what you guys pay
waterboost 3 years ago
We've been used to $.75-$1.50/gallon fuel for so long though.
Hiei2k7 3 years ago
Do you know how much 20.000 litres is? Ya right
gibsonrockin247 3 years ago
yeh! funking loads... its about 20,000 litres worth... It would be a big bag of boom!
waterboost 3 years ago
I might be missing something here, but is it safe to have a cylinder ful of HHO while playing with fire at the other end? I might be wrong here, but can you please clarify this point. Thaks
Galakas 3 years ago
what cylinder? we are making it as we are using it? The unit is strong enough to take a full explosion at 6psi... and makes a hard thud and you see light... but its safer than pharmacutical medication!
waterboost 3 years ago
OK, I get it now. Thanks for getting back on this. I wrongly assumed that the red cylinder in the background was supplying your HHO. Keep up the good work, its very interesting!
Galakas 3 years ago
Wait until they start making them in China! They are switching production to an overseas operation.
It's going to be a very special cluster f%ck of an engine very soon.
soulproaudio 3 years ago
very intersting I am gonna try this out too as fast as i can but when is the motor running on hydrogen in yur video? is itafter 1:08 or 1:37?
I am very intersted
leviterande 3 years ago
1:07 I reckon... The petrol was turned off straight away (on starting...) It should take 27 seconds to run out...
waterboost 3 years ago
wtareboos , that is amazing really.. it is really super quiet? I cant just understand it mate. you made an astonishing thing.. what did you modify
leviterande 3 years ago
its explained in the information... top right of page... we didnt change a thing... its a standard briggs and stratton... :)
waterboost 3 years ago
is the timing on top dead center? thats a must for best performance.and the tube must be close to the intake valve with no carberature ofcourse
commando7144 3 years ago
Nope... get your coat!
If you had bothered to read the posts and info, we didnt change the timing and the carb is still there... and the carb still works, we started it on petrol...read man...read properly before you put your foot in your mouth like so many before you ;)
waterboost 3 years ago
sounds like it's pinging it's fukn tits off
chargrilledcharlie 3 years ago
before or after the petrol runs out?
what are you listening to?
waterboost 3 years ago
Hi there love your video i would like to learn more on hydrogen cells would there be any chance you could tell me how to build your cell or where to get the plans to make it and do you recon you could eventually start the engine on pure hydrogen what volts do you pass throught the cell and do you add soda powder or something called lye ? many thanks
BREN2009 3 years ago
Its a 12 volt unit with only 4 concentric tubes (cells if it makes more sense)
NaOH is added (Sodium Hydroxide, Caustic Soda, Lye)
I sell the units for £500, usually fitted to a car...
Those shit briggs and strattons barely want to start at all, using petrol... I'm not even bothering with that crappy thing anymore...
Give me a nice engine... anyone?
waterboost 3 years ago
Bravo Waterboost. Very interesting!
Keep going like this.
I'd like to ask you a question if you could help me:
How do you calculate the amount of the mixture (HHO+Air) that you need to produce for a 4stroke engine to run?
Thanks.
planmix 3 years ago
Ah! Well... we didnt ;)
We tried to stop all the air going in on the basis that if we didnt the manifold might blow the gas back out... back pressure...2 taps on a t-piece fitted to a flat plate where the air filter was... It isnt air tight perfect, but it works...I have some needle valve taps so I can try and regulate the HHO flow better next time...
waterboost 3 years ago
Why not run of strait Hydrogen> why use gas?
Hydrogen works better without a carb. You do not want back pressure. Back pressure on idle is needed to burn gasoline. Hydrogen needs 100% Air input. When i get my car done ill show you what i mean
adam3176 3 years ago
It was straight hydrogen (with oxygen) when the petrol ran out? Hydrogen doesnt go through the carb! Hydrogen?100% air? I think you will find we did it right and your going the wrong way ;)
waterboost 3 years ago
Hydrogen Lights off ten times faster than gas.
How can that thing idle smooth if its lighting off Before the piston gets to the top? Im just sayin. BTW thats awsome.
adam3176 3 years ago
Did you Adjust Timing to near TDC so it runs smooth?
adam3176 3 years ago
no we didnt alter the engine... if you read the posts you would know... Its mechanically timed... I'm an idiot, not a mechanic ;)
waterboost 3 years ago
Ok look i work on engines too. Now im not certified However i do know a few things. You can still alter timeing even though its mechanical. You need to get off the gasoline setting you will get alot more bang for the buck
adam3176 3 years ago
Dude, we could put hydrogen cells on go karts!
522viper 3 years ago
What is the red cable/hoose? where does it go?
You used 30 amps right? From a car 12 V battery?
So, 30x12 = 360 watts.
Have you measured your output volume (per time)?
When the motor dies, have you turned of the valve or have it used all the Oxyhydrogen availible?
Nice setup, I like it when you are able to see that there is no monkey-buisness (apart from the red "cable")
Johanoeberg 3 years ago
The red cable has the HHO in it? it is pushed onto the end of the acetylene torch so I could use the torch as a flow control...
The engine dies because the gas machine broke inside... I used 2 alloy rivets to hold it temporarily inside... I'll do another video when I have time... at 30 amps the unit produces well over 1.5 litres per minute...
waterboost 3 years ago
Excelent work, your setup works quite nicely. It would be interesting to add an alternator or dynamo to power the electrolyizer to keep the engine running, i guess you may need to use a battery to gain a head of pressure on the cell to jet into the engine, but after its on, it should be self sustaining, provided you can overcome the losses with the system. keep up the good work!
kaboooom2000uk 3 years ago
Haha, you mean creating energy?
Good man, go get you Nobel Price!
Or go to school catching on physics/chemistry.
The losses in EVERY system (+ energy needed to produce another unit of hydrogen), is always greater than gained energy per unit of hydrogen.
Hence, It would be quite hard getting any system to be self sustaining, overunity, efficiency of >1...
Johanoeberg 3 years ago
like i said in my previous post, for the interest values of the experiment it would be cool to try. I forgive you for your remarks.
Yes you are correct in the fact that the system has losses. Nobody can argue that.
My goal is to create an alternive fuel system for the perpose of running engines. I believe it could be almost sustainable if the methods for producing the hydrogen were studied and made more efficent.
kaboooom2000uk 3 years ago
What I hear is the engine stopping as soon as all the petrol has been consumed, correct me if I'm wrong?
blahvidblah 3 years ago
wrong... petrol should have run out after 27 seconds of run time... READ the info on the top right of this page...
waterboost 3 years ago
i have this same engine i just took off an old lawnmower b&s (briggs and straton) i'm looking to make it run on hho but i'm not sure how to connect this to my motor to make it work please let me know what you did i took my carb off to try somethings but if need be i can put it on
stronglungs 3 years ago
You can keep the amps the same, but make the cell tank airtight and add a pressure regulator valve normally found on air compressors and gas welders. This way u don't have to worry bout the amps, u just adjust the reg valve... and control it from there
chevy668 3 years ago 2
that is what we did...
waterboost 3 years ago
Great job guys! Anyone that gets it to run on HHO has really accomplished something. Now, did you have to delay the timing of the ignition more towards the top? I hear a company called Autotronics sells a delay mechanism for such motors. Also, was the carb removed from this engine?
rhenke 3 years ago 2
carb is still on, thats why it runs on petrol when start the engine...
no timing delay...
read the text top right...
waterboost 3 years ago
And do the motor work only whit that hydrogen making machine? Or is it only saving some petrol?
Careica 4 years ago
listen too it... when the petrol runs out it is pure HHO... smooth, almost silent...
waterboost 3 years ago
Hello! Verry interesting. But I have saw that "Mythbusters" put hydrogen in carburator, and the car worked! So do the car need to run on Gasoline or Diesel. Which one will it be?
Careica
Careica 4 years ago
Myth Busters? It was out of a bottle... Myth Busters are Wankers! They made a Bedini that didnt work (Forgot the magnets?) They fitted a HHO fuel enhancer and didnt connect the power!
I think they do what suits the feds...
waterboost 4 years ago
Yes they are...WORSE! But it's are fun look at them. So what type motor it will work? Gasoline or Diesel?
Careica
Careica 4 years ago 2
Does anyone know if the HHO in injected into the intake before or after the Mass Air Flow Sensor?
randolphoralph777 4 years ago
There is no airflow sensor on the lawn mower... I'd recommend after... Most air flow sensor dont last long in a steady stream of HHO ;)
waterboost 4 years ago
For the hydrogen production, can't you just get a solar panel or a small duty wind turbine and hook it up to a homemade electrolyser. Wouldn't that work for hydrogen production?
Zeorothe 4 years ago
ja
you can if you have one...
waterboost 4 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I am physics
you want perpetual watch my video. You don't understand say so. because this doesn't know perpetual. You want a test hook it up to a city. You guys have no idea what hydrogen is doing, now your trying to take it out of water
4take4give 4 years ago
? pardon ;)
lol
waterboost 4 years ago
lol
Don't mind me
I got lost
and just needed directions
4take4give 4 years ago
I mean, do you sell hydrogen generators - the thing that uses electricity from a big battery to separate the hydrogen from oxygen in water.
Sorry for my previous confusing message,
Duncan
Dunk1994 4 years ago
ahahahha thats halarious
ronmann606 4 years ago
Hi, I am intending on doing something the same as you and I dunno whether to make an electrolyser or to buy one, theyre so expensive!
Did you say you sold these kits? If you do, how much are they? Cheers!
Dunk1994 4 years ago
They cost more when someone else has to make them... ;) The unit in this video is nothing like the new car unit in our other videos...
Its been a long experimental journey...
Ask me the price in a few months ;)
waterboost 4 years ago
I saw a vid on here. Timing was spark at top dead center.They let as much air in the engine through the carb as they could get.Gas was in through a 16th inch valve right at the intake port. Seams like putting as much air as possible and as little gas or lean is the way. Possitive air pressure would be cool i think. Timing would be the most important though. hho burns so fast. Dont want the pre det. Good work.
therealambo 4 years ago
I think the video you have seen uses hydrogen from a bottle... It has no Oxygen in it and the engine needs to breath...The 16th inch valve is to ensure the hydrogen goes in at pressure...Maintaining more pressure in the line stops flashbacks... If the engine ignited it would just light the flame at the end like a torch, the flame would blow itself out on the next piston stroke... You can get a motor to run without changing the timing... You adjust the timing after to get it supper sweet ;)
waterboost 4 years ago
I have only one thing to say about this...Great job!
sunny5rising 4 years ago 2
????? Sound like azz
Darkfoster22 4 years ago
thats cool we dont need gasoline to run our engine
fit a stainless steel exhaust and coat your pistons with ceramic otherwise you will rust your engine as you are burning water
theoneagain 4 years ago
there isnt that much water produced... petrol seems to produce more???
waterboost 4 years ago
great job. i have seen elsewhere a reduction of power came from a better water separater, wich would imply the combustion process liked the water vapour.even h2o burns when hyd is present. Likely only oxy is released from the vapour. i have recently purchased a pond fogger. very small water molecules. iam hoping to do some running tests soon with a fogger inject as well as an hho inject on my lawnmer. thought u might like some food 4 thought from a canuck buck
glen196969 4 years ago
limitation is the volume of H and O2 produced per minute. - Never enough to run a car engine w/o huge Amps and volts.
FulinYu 4 years ago
Dont you mean huge volts OR amps... Oh! You dont know...you havent tried have you?
waterboost 4 years ago
I do Know. V=IR, so I should have said OR - no biggie. Still, if you think about PV=nRT, the rate of production of H and O2 gas is way to little to run an engine, even w/ huge Amperage. I have run electrolysis at 1400 Volts, so I know that there are still not enough bubbles.
FulinYu 4 years ago
let me guess? flat plates? not tubes... ;)
waterboost 4 years ago
deering505 all you do is post negative comments about youtube videos... you'll never get a nobel prize thinking the way you do!
Open your eyes donkey!
waterboost 4 years ago
what we can't say JackAss here? Well i just did. deering505 You're a Jack Ass!
yurchardonnay 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Electrolysis (breaking water into flammable gas) has been around for almost 200 years. Do you really think you're the first genius that thought of piping it into a internal combustion engine?
Sell this nonsense to some fool that never finished high school. Come to think of it, that's probably the idea.
deering505 4 years ago
Try it yourself instead of reading about it!
catfishagain 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
All the gullible people forget, it takes money to pay for the electricity that generates the "free" hydrogen. Why not put a dollar's worth of gasoline in the tank instead of two dollars worth of hydrogen.
If you think you can put one of these in your car, think again. The gas your engine wastes generating electricity exceeds the gas you save burning hydrogen.
Read the "hydrogen vehicle" wiki.
If this guy is selling something, don't buy it, unless he pays your electric bill.
deering505 4 years ago
Mmm, met your type before! It took 30amps at 12v to run this engine... Ur telling me this motor cant generate that much electricity?! I suppose doubling the mpg on my old golf is a waste of time too;)
I have been selling these units and I will be selling more of them... But not to blind donkeys like you ;)
I've worked on these for 2 years, I wouldnt have bothered if the results werent so impressive...
waterboost 4 years ago
What are you saying, that you get the 30amps and 12v from the motor thats running here??? If not, why not. You say it can produce it. I'm not a sceptic but i'm not stupid either! If you are getting your electricity from the same motor then that really is something but i suspect that's not the case. Why do you want to imply that you are? Please prove me wrong.
stokes58 4 years ago
Power came from a battery, its was a test run!
I'm implying we could make a self runner... why would I want to prove you wrong!?#:)
Go and make a machine and try it... You'll be famous...I'm busy with something similar but on an idustrial unit!?
waterboost 4 years ago
You've got to remember the inherent power contained in water. Most people make the mistake of thinking water is just some weak lifeless fluid and has no extra power within. Wrongo! When you use energy to split water much more energy is released......from the water;) Try it before you debunk it by reading a "wiki" LOL
catfishagain 4 years ago 2
Excellent work!!
What did you use to get rid of the waste spark?
Did you delay the ignition timming?
bornman88 4 years ago
We removed the waste spark by ignoring it! ;)
Pretending it doesnt exist...
We didnt change the timing either!
waterboost 4 years ago
nice job :) ill be looking for more vids please keep them coming .
Elysia84 4 years ago
Wonderful wonderful, atleast someone isnt repeating what the others have done. You arent saying you invented it, you are mearly tinkering with it, and from what I can see (and im no scientist) it seems you have cracked it :)
nutellajunkie 4 years ago
can you show us how you set ya plats up and make a clear vid buddy you will be famous keep up the work cheers
windsurf2228 4 years ago
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice man!!
This is exactly what I have been waiting to see!
You can be very proud of that engine running on HHO. I can hardly wait to see further videos. Hope you will show us some more... I can't express how much I appreciate this video! Every single step towards 'hydrogen on demand' is important to finally crush those lousy oil morons.
Keep up the great work!
And successful we shall be!
eatbutnotpuke 4 years ago 3
At last somebody is using the hydrogen as a fuel....
Nice One!
kubikop 4 years ago
This is what I have been waiting to see. I am also curious so see your answers to greasy.Great Video!
Thanks
Jack
dulcajack 4 years ago
Hi waterboost,
Thanks for the video.
Bad picture quality is better than no picture.
I have quite a few questions for you if you don't mind.
1. Did you change the timing on the engine?
2. If so, what method did you use?
3. Did it harm the engine?
4. Was your fuel cell just not able to keep up at the end?
Greasy001 (It ain't easy being Greasy)
Greasy01 4 years ago
I could not get them all on the first post.
5. How much "Liters per Minute" does your cell produce?
6. What kind and amount of electrolyte do you use?
7. What is your cell made from (Tubes, Plates, Shim Stock....)?
Thank you very much.
Greasy001 (It ain't easy being Greasy)
Greasy01 4 years ago
1-1.5litres per minute at approx 30amps, it depends on a few strange factors...
A tiny bit of sodium hydroxide for the electrolyte, I think the ph was 11...
The cells are tubes made from 316 stainless...
The engine also has a waste spark ignition!
The important bit is to seal off the engine so it cant dilute the gas by sucking air in...
waterboost 4 years ago
waterboost, Great work!!! But is 1.5 LPM enough to match engine's volume? I mean a few strok would have reach 1.5 LPM unless you let the air leak thru the cell. thnaks
Casper886 4 years ago
Why let air leak through, its just diluting it the same as letting air in at the engine end?
If anything we want a positive pressure in the gas machine created by the gas, it makes the bubbles smaller which makes more gas...
waterboost 4 years ago
Hi Greasy,
- We did not change the engine timing...
- The engine is unharmed, I wouldnt do it with a 2stroke because of the lack of lubrication in the fuel but the engine is a four stroke...
The fuel cell (dont laugh) was held together inside with aluminium rivets!? I knew they wouldnt last long... You cant hear it on the video but the gas machine started making a cht,cht,cht noise as it was arcing inside and not making an earth connection.
waterboost 4 years ago
Hi waterboost,
Man! That is awesome!
You have laid a lot of my fears to rest. Some people say you can't run HHO on a four stroke without adjusting the timing.
Are the tubes concentric like a Joe Cell or double tubes like Stan Meyer's?
I can not wait to see what you post next.
Thanks SO Much!
Greasy001 (It ain't easy being Greasy)
Greasy01 4 years ago
Sweet!
Well done!
Voice0fEnergy 4 years ago
well done
roadkill3030 4 years ago