And then, after this scary process is finished, all kinds of plants will quickly sprout, including the ones whose seeds require the high temperature of a fire to be set into growth. The whole evolution of the forest will then happen all over again, to where there eventually are mature trees which can then burn again.
This is a natural progression. Unfortunately people and their structures get in the way sometimes.
@keithtreason I work in the field of wildland firefighting. This is real, trust me. They protect their cameras on tests like this. The melting point of glass is 3,133 degrees F and the heat inside a wild land fire doesn't go above 2,000 degrees F. The cameras are inside a metal box (good heat conductor) which is filled with sand (good heat insulator) and the camera itself is inside a composite box to protect the camera from the sand. Trust me, the camera is very safe from the fire.
Sure it is pretty hot in this place, and I guess the wind won't touch it. You could fell a smoke. Temperature getting close to 900? Wow, it looks like to the sun. If some people are in the forest fire, they could get hurt like injured or die in the heat. They might get out of wildfire if they could get injured.
"Burning to death on a mountainside is dying at least three times ... first, considerably ahead of the fire, you reach the verge of death in your boots and your legs; next, as you fail, you sink back in the region of strange gases and red and blue darts where there is no oxygen and here you die in your lungs; then you sink in prayer into the main fire that consumes."
I think I saw the initial air mass aflame with the tars stripped from the surface of the trees previously burned. The flame front and wind seemed to 1) burst the bark off the tree and expose the tar and resin layer, which 2) ignited and joined the front as a burning gas. Now I understand why a twinkie blanket is almost useless, even though the temp was over 500 C for less than a minute. How much fuel free (relatively) distance is needed for a pine tar flamefront to self extinguished?
yeah, check my walla valley video around 3:18 you can see that happening in a real fire setting. The winds were 20-30 mph. Some real mixed conifer, severity fire...not just grass
mmm, i dont know but it seems to me that someone pore some sort of accelerator around that area including on the trees.... But just assuming because of the rapid ignition point... looked like a great fire, my toast is burn in seconds!!!
mmm, i dont know but it seems to me that someone pore some sort of accelerator around that area including on the trees.... But just assuming because of the rapid ignition point... looked like a great fire, my toast is burn in seconds!!!
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Crown fires burn the tops of fuels. Could be grass too. Only an independent crown fire ONLY burns the tops of the fuels, usually there is a surface fire burning feeding the crown fire heat.
There are fire resistant camera boxes used in Military explosion tests, fire tests, etc. Instead of judging if this was fast forward, camera tricks or real, fact is a fire storms do move that fast, this is knowledge to be learned and not judged; purhaps its purpose is to educate so we may prevent another wildfire death. Stay Safe everyone.
It reaches for more air to breath. You can see that the trees self ignites before the flames even reaches them, due to the high temperature of the air that has moved into the area and that keeps moving, further increasing the fire's O2 supply, thus the fire intensity.
The video is not fast forwarded. What you see there is a typical example of what you can excpect of a firestorm; you can see the wind all over the place before the fire spreads, which is in fact the heatwave forwarding the fire that advances at a tremedous speed trough the area. And how's that?
well, it was most likely put there on purpose, as would be indicated with it having a thermometer. so probably a protective heat resistant covering. it wasn;'t that hot for very long so, yeah.
Can't say for sure in this case, but I've seen cameras enclosed in a steel box that is filled with sand used for this kind of thing in the past. Don't know anymore than that.
Geez can no one see the time that's running at the bottom left of the screen? Everyone keeps asking if it's a time lapse but they don't pay attention to the vid.
Its not time lapse, its a video of a natural wildfire exhibiting "area ignition" effects, where the heat from the fire is so great that combustibles catch fire before they flames of the fire reach them, creating a "firestorm" condition. The trees have, over time, evolved thick bark to protect themselves from this, which is why they did not burn completely, but survive this example of a healthy forest fire. At least, from what I saw, it was.
Either educate yourself, or keep your assertions to yourself. I dont take kindly to people making forceful assertions from ignorant positions, so at least try hitting up wikipedia or something to get a vague idea what is going on around you before you embarass yourself again.
Maybe you'd like to try an out run a forest fire. After your burned to ash because you couldn't run the 70 mph speed that the fire was going through the forests at you can tell me this video was fake.
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Fires do not propagate at 70mph. If they did towns 40 miles away would have a half-hour before they were toast. Think what fools firefighters would have to be, getting anywhere near a fire that could outrun any off-road vehicle. They'd certainly look like fools spending 2 hours whacking away with pulaskis, establishing a firebreak 120 miles from the fire, leaving little getaway time in fast cars on highways.
Are we talking wind-driven, or responding to slope and fuel type, or do you mean fires intense enough to generate their own wind and weather? I can see a wind-driven fire moving at 70+ mph, but I have a difficult time picturing a fire propagating itself that fast, even with the superheated gases preceding the flame front, without any outside force helping it. What am I missing?
I'm talking short bursts. Slope, dry fuels, low RH and high wind speeds like the Santa Ana winds can make this possible. If you drop a match in the middle of fuel on perfectly flat terrain with no wind speed it's not going to matter how hot it's burning it's going to spread at a fairly slow rate of speed.
flashpoint at 450 deg
joek0617 6 months ago
how long would u last there? i think u would pass out after about 10sek in that heat
SweStuff94 8 months ago
And then, after this scary process is finished, all kinds of plants will quickly sprout, including the ones whose seeds require the high temperature of a fire to be set into growth. The whole evolution of the forest will then happen all over again, to where there eventually are mature trees which can then burn again.
This is a natural progression. Unfortunately people and their structures get in the way sometimes.
hebneh 11 months ago 2
i think wild land is scary as hell. im new to fire fighting but i dont want to be caught in one of these. Its not the way t go
AC130EMPYREAL 1 year ago
wow
minawa21 1 year ago
You see how very little overall mass was burned.
transdrole 2 years ago
video is speed up, this probibly took place over an hour or so
greenninja999 2 years ago
@greenninja999 Watch the clock, this took place over 2 minutes....
OneSkiWonder 1 year ago
Hey this looks like a test to me camera is protected ...it would melt for sure,,,,,
thejonesfather 2 years ago
I don't think this is real
If something could withstand that temp....
im doubting glass does it melts at that temp
keithtreason 2 years ago
@keithtreason I work in the field of wildland firefighting. This is real, trust me. They protect their cameras on tests like this. The melting point of glass is 3,133 degrees F and the heat inside a wild land fire doesn't go above 2,000 degrees F. The cameras are inside a metal box (good heat conductor) which is filled with sand (good heat insulator) and the camera itself is inside a composite box to protect the camera from the sand. Trust me, the camera is very safe from the fire.
OneSkiWonder 1 year ago
so it's like a forest flash over.
man2wild 2 years ago
stop drop and roll stop drop and roll
wow that is crazy
Dkooler1 2 years ago
Sure it is pretty hot in this place, and I guess the wind won't touch it. You could fell a smoke. Temperature getting close to 900? Wow, it looks like to the sun. If some people are in the forest fire, they could get hurt like injured or die in the heat. They might get out of wildfire if they could get injured.
andrewschiffer 2 years ago
"Burning to death on a mountainside is dying at least three times ... first, considerably ahead of the fire, you reach the verge of death in your boots and your legs; next, as you fail, you sink back in the region of strange gases and red and blue darts where there is no oxygen and here you die in your lungs; then you sink in prayer into the main fire that consumes."
Norman Maclean
3903foster 2 years ago 6
I think I saw the initial air mass aflame with the tars stripped from the surface of the trees previously burned. The flame front and wind seemed to 1) burst the bark off the tree and expose the tar and resin layer, which 2) ignited and joined the front as a burning gas. Now I understand why a twinkie blanket is almost useless, even though the temp was over 500 C for less than a minute. How much fuel free (relatively) distance is needed for a pine tar flamefront to self extinguished?
VolkgartenBySquirrel 2 years ago
Deploy! Just kidding... Awesome video, I remember that from one of the classes I went to awhile back. Stay Safe.
-Alex @ bumpandlickDOTCOM
hockeyguy98346 2 years ago
This is time lapsed over about an 2 hours. Watch the clock in the video.
Altayayo 2 years ago
Uh, yeah. Watch the clock in the video. Goes from 3:10:xx to 3:12:xx (hour:minute:second).
pofsa 2 years ago 8
yeah, check my walla valley video around 3:18 you can see that happening in a real fire setting. The winds were 20-30 mph. Some real mixed conifer, severity fire...not just grass
Altayayo 2 years ago
by the way ur right pofsa about the time
Altayayo 2 years ago
you are such a dumbass lol
SMGleader 2 years ago
dick head, no it aint!
col666man 2 years ago
Wow that is freakishly quick. Makes me think twice about having dry brush and vegetation around my home.
fball456 3 years ago
Am I the only one who thinks this is beautiful?
my9thtime 3 years ago
mmm, i dont know but it seems to me that someone pore some sort of accelerator around that area including on the trees.... But just assuming because of the rapid ignition point... looked like a great fire, my toast is burn in seconds!!!
Tumbadora1 1 year ago
mmm, i dont know but it seems to me that someone pore some sort of accelerator around that area including on the trees.... But just assuming because of the rapid ignition point... looked like a great fire, my toast is burn in seconds!!!
Tumbadora1 1 year ago
@Tumbadora1 flashover
joek0617 6 months ago
I dont think so.this is a ground cam, aint it?
FireRed808 3 years ago
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abhay 3 years ago
its not a crown fire,crown fires only burn the tops of the trees
krazymary12 3 years ago
Crown fires burn the tops of fuels. Could be grass too. Only an independent crown fire ONLY burns the tops of the fuels, usually there is a surface fire burning feeding the crown fire heat.
OneSkiWonder 3 years ago
just an idea of the kind of hell your in for if you had to shake and bake in a fire...(best not to have to deploy in the first place.)
kreeper88 3 years ago
omg that is craxy
mCaLdAdYdy 3 years ago
There are fire resistant camera boxes used in Military explosion tests, fire tests, etc. Instead of judging if this was fast forward, camera tricks or real, fact is a fire storms do move that fast, this is knowledge to be learned and not judged; purhaps its purpose is to educate so we may prevent another wildfire death. Stay Safe everyone.
garyco99 4 years ago 3
Apologizes, invert my two post for an ordered comprehension.
JayErnie2k 4 years ago
It reaches for more air to breath. You can see that the trees self ignites before the flames even reaches them, due to the high temperature of the air that has moved into the area and that keeps moving, further increasing the fire's O2 supply, thus the fire intensity.
JayErnie2k 4 years ago 4
The video is not fast forwarded. What you see there is a typical example of what you can excpect of a firestorm; you can see the wind all over the place before the fire spreads, which is in fact the heatwave forwarding the fire that advances at a tremedous speed trough the area. And how's that?
JayErnie2k 4 years ago 3
its strange,, becuse the fire go's very fast,
but if you watch the timer of the camara
the time is tikking normaly...
so the fire is fastforwarded,,but the time
is still tikking normaly,, strange vid :P
Yamahamsgh 4 years ago
youve never watched a forest burn from the looks of it. I've seen fires move as fast as the wind pushing it.Especially grass fires.
kreeper88 3 years ago
my pnly question is how did the camera survive????
deshayarts 4 years ago
well, it was most likely put there on purpose, as would be indicated with it having a thermometer. so probably a protective heat resistant covering. it wasn;'t that hot for very long so, yeah.
ClericSTR 4 years ago
Maybe its just a zoom lense
deshayarts 4 years ago
i dont think it mightve been a zoom lens. the fire kind of looked like it was coming from behind the camera. oh well.
ClericSTR 4 years ago
Can't say for sure in this case, but I've seen cameras enclosed in a steel box that is filled with sand used for this kind of thing in the past. Don't know anymore than that.
pofsa 4 years ago
WOWSERS!
littleboo9000000 4 years ago
wow, was that really real, or was it fake, because it all happened too fast, geez!
Tahuchan 4 years ago
Geez can no one see the time that's running at the bottom left of the screen? Everyone keeps asking if it's a time lapse but they don't pay attention to the vid.
myjobsucksass 4 years ago
Looked like embers ignited it.
LawrenceErnie 4 years ago
Nope, super heated gases.
OneSkiWonder 3 years ago
Its not time lapse, its a video of a natural wildfire exhibiting "area ignition" effects, where the heat from the fire is so great that combustibles catch fire before they flames of the fire reach them, creating a "firestorm" condition. The trees have, over time, evolved thick bark to protect themselves from this, which is why they did not burn completely, but survive this example of a healthy forest fire. At least, from what I saw, it was.
Arkitekt3813 4 years ago
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it was a fastfowarded video that looks insanly fake
unlucky1221 4 years ago
Either educate yourself, or keep your assertions to yourself. I dont take kindly to people making forceful assertions from ignorant positions, so at least try hitting up wikipedia or something to get a vague idea what is going on around you before you embarass yourself again.
Arkitekt3813 4 years ago 5
Maybe you'd like to try an out run a forest fire. After your burned to ash because you couldn't run the 70 mph speed that the fire was going through the forests at you can tell me this video was fake.
OneSkiWonder 3 years ago 3
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Fires do not propagate at 70mph. If they did towns 40 miles away would have a half-hour before they were toast. Think what fools firefighters would have to be, getting anywhere near a fire that could outrun any off-road vehicle. They'd certainly look like fools spending 2 hours whacking away with pulaskis, establishing a firebreak 120 miles from the fire, leaving little getaway time in fast cars on highways.
Brock8Vond 3 years ago
They CAN travel 70mph. Not constantly no but they can travel 70mph.
OneSkiWonder 3 years ago
Are we talking wind-driven, or responding to slope and fuel type, or do you mean fires intense enough to generate their own wind and weather? I can see a wind-driven fire moving at 70+ mph, but I have a difficult time picturing a fire propagating itself that fast, even with the superheated gases preceding the flame front, without any outside force helping it. What am I missing?
yunleilei 3 years ago
I'm talking short bursts. Slope, dry fuels, low RH and high wind speeds like the Santa Ana winds can make this possible. If you drop a match in the middle of fuel on perfectly flat terrain with no wind speed it's not going to matter how hot it's burning it's going to spread at a fairly slow rate of speed.
OneSkiWonder 3 years ago
nice effect.... ;)
halo2online 4 years ago
What the hell is this? Deliberate or Time Lapse?
FilmPA 4 years ago