Excellent responses. Lucidity is a wonderful thing to possess. That was not only a great Floyd track, but 8 minutes and 11 seconds of refreshing, reasoned logic in the swirling maelstrom of ravenous Idiot Design and Creationists stupidity.
In regard to your answer to the second question, and the assumption of the extraterrestrial intelligence inducing life on Earth, this does not answer the question at all - it just moves the same question to a different place (i.e. "how did the extraterrestrial life come to existence?", or "how did life in universe come to existence at all?")
Apart from that, your response is great :) thumbs up ;)
@Wintershade3001 I agree...probably should have clarified. But I found it futile to ask that in the face of "we have no evidence that ETs exist."..but I suppose saying "Even if we did....." Thanks for watching and for the comments!:-)
Dude...I appreciate your concern, and I'm sure you are a sincere person: but you and I do not share a common reality. We are on two completely different wavelengths of thought, logic and reasoning. There isn't really anything I can say more than that.
in question 4. you could have said, well all the major "life" groups didnt appear at the same time - which would have happend at creation - you don't find dinosaurs with cats etc. Probs for refering to AronRa's exellent video series. I would like to show the process of morals under christianity, by using Norbert Elias's work on his civilizing process, and the changes in attitude towards natural functions, i will single out blowing ones nose and spitting, it will be from manuals (continued)
@BjornSeverinLarsen (from last comment) explaining the prober behavior in France and Germany. Basicly for there to be a need for a manual, this behavior must have been evident in society at the specific times. Here we go, blowing your nose: 1300's don't cough or blow nose over the table so that nothing falls on the table, 1500s it is unseemly to blow your nose into a tablecloth. do not blow your nose with the same hand that hold the meat (to be continued)
@BjornSeverinLarsen (3rd comment, read from first) 1600s dont blow your nose in your hat or clothes, do it in you elbow as it becomes a trademan, do not use your hand, 1700s handkerchiefs is for blowing your nose, turn your head - basicly the attitude towards natural functions changed a great deal in these 400 years, which was under christianity. How did they change if the morals from Yaweh are so static and wonderful? Sptting: middelages do not spit over the table (to be continued)
@BjornSeverinLarsen (4th comment, read from 1st)do not spit on the table, don't spit on others at the table. 1530 turn away when spitting, do not spit every 3 words, if something purulent falls to the ground, tread on it.1558 do not spit at the table as far as possible, it is honorably not to spit by the table. 1859 Spitting is at all time a disgusting habit. The same clear development, and i ask the same thing as above. These things which is important to not embarres yourself (to be continued)
@BjornSeverinLarsen (5th comment, read from 1st) in your everyday life. These things have changed gradually, this is not evolution however, but it has some of the same features. Morals and ethics change over time, allso under christianity - christians simply change with it, and this way things that are selfevident, is things that have developed over many years in a continuos dynamic process. Sry for writing so much, but thought i had to explain my point
@BjornSeverinLarsen (5th comment, read from 1st) in your everyday life. These things have changed gradually, this is not evolution however, but it has some of the same features. Morals and ethics change over time, allso under christianity - christians simply change with it, and this way things that are selfevident, is things that have developed over many years in a continuos dynamic process. I've extracted and shortend from the text of Elias.
@IwillhonorGod I believe that word you are looking for is "surely." If you are going to go off on some drug-induced rant, you could at least have the decency to proofread what you post....or get someone to proofread it for you. Have a Nice Delusion!
All of the fulfilled prophecy of the bible points to one thing, and that is to validate God's word, to unbelievers, because there is a judgment that is coming, and with out the Blood of Jesus, people listen hear and understand, you are going to hell. Jesus had said to speak these things, because He does not want any one going there, and you can't believe in some thing you have not heard of, so now you can believe it, because you have heard it.
The temple that was talked about in Ezekiel, 500 years before Jesus, the temple institute is now getting to be very ready to build this, surely our generation will see this built.
Alexander the great is mentioned in the book of Daniel, and when he conquered the known world, and came up to Jerusalem, the priests showed him where he was in the bible, and that the bible said he would do it.
The bible said that Israel would fall apart 2 times, and come back together 2 times and that has happened. And that the people that did not rightfully have the land before, the land would not produce for them well, and it did not, and when they came back into the land it would, and it did and does.
you say there is no proof that God exists, but you obviously have not opened a bible and looked at thing called prophecy, because there is lots of things that have been fulfilled in the last 100 years, and history is rich the bible fulfillment.
logic = if there is a creator, there is a creation. If there are laws, there is a law giver. I don't know who made the law that you can't work backwards as you say. how would you like it if I said, from looking at the words I speak, you can not come to the conclusion there was a speaker?
@StarkReality13 thats ok, I do appreciate the offer if it is senescence, but I have taught other people English before. It is my native tongue I know it well. but ya I did make a typing mistake there.
@IwillhonorGod "senescence" .... the state of being old or the process of becoming old. Probably not the best choice of words.
"from looking at the words I speak, you can not come to the conclusion there was a speaker?"
Well, technically, you aren't speaking at all, you are writing. And I know that there is a writer because I can replicate the process of writing, or at least observe it being done. Whether or not someone wrote the words I read is what we call a "testable hypothesis."
@IwillhonorGod Maybe the flying spaghetti monster put that word in there....and what do you mean "technically" you are writing? You know, when I first read your diatribes, I thought, "There's a slight possibility that this person is cocoa for coo-coo-puffs." You are steadily confirrning that hypothesis.
@StarkReality13 man you correct my spelling, but here I have to spell it out for you....ha ha ha ha which is ok I guess. I am sure though with 10 seconds of thinking you could have figured it out...surely. If there is some thing written there is a writer.
understand that?
Have you heard of hacking? no?
its ok, concerning your hypothesis, the truth does not change, to get acceptance from others, or from the majority. And I am not validated by you.
@IwillhonorGod Yeah I figured out the whole writer/written bit ages ago. And I also said that I know something was written because I can see, replicate & independently verify the act of writing something....as I am doing right now.
And yes, i've heard of "hacking"... but what makes more sense: that a person would hack your comment to insert a non-sequitur, or you are a pseudo-intellectual who got busted using a big word he didn't know the meaning of to sound more intelligent than he was?
@StarkReality13 It does not matter what is likely, it only matters what is. The word that was used there, I never even heard of it before. And even though I believe the meaning was said of it, I do not even remember what the meaning was.
I don't post like some people post on here, trying to impress people with big words, I don't care about my own image, but I do care about peoples understanding.
@IwillhonorGod let me explain it to you this way: my car didn't always exist....but the metals that make up my car have existed in some form or another for millenia.
@StarkReality13 The key thing you have not considered is time. Because my God made time, so for you to speak like there was a time, when God was not made, is wrong. God was there from the beginning as He made time. It is interesting you know,
of His Names,
maybe your not familiar, But the Beginning and the End?
and concerning the creation of time, how do you talk about that? before time? is that right to say? I say that in connection with, His name, I am.
@IwillhonorGod Oh, I see. Special pleading. Well if you get to say that your god always existed, then I get to say that the stuff which makes up the universe always existed.
@StarkReality13 I think maybe it could be said, that the power of God's word, existed before time. As God has had all power, before time. it is not like He needed time to get the power. He had the power to make time. So if you think of it like that, it could be true. But with out God not at all.
but ya, you can say and believe what you like, God did not make robots, but people with free will, so be free, as you are free.
@StarkReality13 ya it is pretty plain in the laws of science, that say every thing tends towards chaos, and decay, and destruction. concerning time, if we are an infinite age as you suppose, then every star should be burned up, and all heat distributed evenly, because it has literally had forever to do it. But the stars are still burning.
@IwillhonorGod I never said "we are an infinite age"...if you are going to misquote me, have the common courtesy to misquote something I actually said.
@IwillhonorGod I didn't say the universe always existed...I said that the stuff which makes up the universe always existed. Once again, please have the common decency to misquote what I actually say.
@IwillhonorGod I'm not sure what "mixing words" means...But, I did find this interesting:
"The invention of the tv, and nuclear bomb are hinted at in the bible."
"hinted at"?
Why is your god such a tease?
This is the problem with most of your "prophecies"...you take a vague statement that can mean anything, a true believer like yourself comes along, attaches a meaning to it and viola! Clairvoyance! Its how Nostradamus "works."
And israel was a self-fulfilling prophecy...look it up.
@StarkReality13 mixing words means beating around bush. It means you are finding some thing to argue about the change the subject, because you don't have any thing address the subject with. clear?
ya, they are hinted at. Do you know what a hint is?
why do you tease like you don't know what I mean? and like you don't understand some 4 letter words?
God did fulfill His Word truly, always has, always will.
@IwillhonorGod As a matter of fact, I do know what a hint is and here's an "unmixed" one for you:
You have no real evidence whatsoever that your god even exists, and even less real evidence that whatever bible you use is a reliable source of anything. You accept this stuff as true, not because of any real evidence, and certainly not because it's a fact, but because you WANT it to be true. You WANT it to be true bad enough that you will ignore anything that contradicts it..reality included.
@IwillhonorGod "There is no thing in reality that does contradict it" Actually, there is when you consider that the invisible and the non-existant look exactly alike.
@StarkReality13 It is mixed, greatly mixed, you know how? because you make your accusations, but you give no evidence. And I don't honestly know how you would give evidence of the non existence of some thing, I guess you would have to know the meaning of life, But if you did know it, you would know, what I speak to you is true. To be clear, there is no evidence for the things that don't exist, but history is the record that the bible is true, if you would just search it out.
@IwillhonorGod What sort of evidence would you like to demonstrate the lack of evidence to support your assertion that there is a god and that your god is the god of whatever version of the bible you use?
@StarkReality13 now you say, I have no real evidence. But history is evidence, and I have personal dealing with God, in terms of being healed multiple times, doctors said I would never walk, and I can run like a mad man today, and I have been electrocuted on my hands, and had my thumb turn black, by the end of the day my thumb was healed, no pain, no trace of any damage. I have had God come through for me, when tires have blown out on vehicles. God has come through time and again.
@IwillhonorGod So if a person is told they are unable to walk and they end up being unable to walk, does that count as evidence that god doesn't exist?
@StarkReality13 no it does not. And what ever situation you might have seen there, to my knowledge I don't know it. But I can tell you very plainly why most people are not healed. They are not sure if it is God's will and most don't know what faith is.
even you I would bet don't really know, what faith is, but you probably have an inkling of it.
I would say, about 99% of things that are received from God, are by faith.
@IwillhonorGod "But I can tell you very plainly why most people are not healed. They are not sure if it is God's will and most don't know what faith is" Ah, so the people who aren't healed don't have enough faith. Sounds like a classic case of "blame the victim" to me. A real "win-win" for your god...he gets credit for healing people, and if he doesn't, its THEIR fault.
@IwillhonorGod Nope. I am saying that he's got a pretty good racket going...someone gets healed and your god gets credit. Someone doesn't and it's the person's fault.
@StarkReality13 God's system is different. people on the earth here say, when I see it, I will believe it. But the essence of what faith says, is believe first, then receive it, then you will see it.
well, I guess I don't need to guess what you are going to say, with your assumptions about faith. Say what you will, and I will address you misunderstanding, if it is there, like I think it is.
@IwillhonorGod "God's system is different" How convenient. Your god sounds like a kid I used to play baseball with. The rules about strikes and balls and fair and foul always seemed to change whenever he got up to bat.
@IwillhonorGod I know nothing of god except what some heavily-edited book translated into numerous different English-language versions based on some ancient maunscripts written in three different dead languages ... and what people like yourself tell me about him. Based on those things, your god seems to be suffering from schitzophrenia, excessive narcissism, psychosis, and seems to have some anger management issues.
@StarkReality13 ok, you don't know Him, you don't know His ways, and you don't understand the bible. Now tell me what you know specifically about faith? if you don't know, just say the word.
You seem to think, that God is changing the rules? well, what are the rules then?
@IwillhonorGod "ok, you don't know..." what am I unclear on?
"Now tell me ... about faith" You don't need evidence to have it. You accept something as true DESPITE what common sense or your own ability to discern reality tells you.
The rules are different for your god. We have to present evidence BEFORE the conclusion, Your god demands that you take him on faith, THEN he "reveals" this stuff. He's kind of like a landlord that demands the deposit and rent before you look at the apartment..
@StarkReality13 ok, you make known what you believe...good job I will say. Many people I talk to just bush beat.
You do know what healing is right? because that would be the apartment you and most people seeking. If they are looking for it already, then they have seen it, that is why they seek it, though maybe they have not attained it yet.
@IwillhonorGod "That would be the apartment you and most people seeking. "Well...you completely turned that anaolgy into something I didn't even come close to saying.
@StarkReality13 We were talking about healing, and how to receive healing by faith, which is how it is the majority of the time. and then we kind of Got into what God requires, which is faith. and receiving by faith. Salvation is through faith also.
@StarkReality13 ok, I want to start on a foundation, that is established with you, and build up from there.
I think what you have grasped, is that faith is not seeing. It is good, you have understood this. Many people accuse me of having a blind faith. But faith is not seeing. It would be like me saying your ears are blind.
Faith is not seeing. The bible makes a distinguishment, you walk by faith, and not by sight.
@StarkReality13 The bible says how to get faith, Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God. So if you or any one else would just read the bible, they would get faith.
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. - So you need to hope first.
now with out faith, it is impossible to please Him. (that is God)
@StarkReality13 James 1:6 But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. 7 For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; 8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.
@StarkReality13 I would also add, if you really want to understand faith, to read Hebrews Chapter 11 - it is the great faith chapter of the bible. And if you would study even further, there is references in the chapter of things from the old testament that could be looked up.
@StarkReality13 Agreement is another thing that needs to thoroughly understood. Authority is another, many believers don't know there authority, and the authority, they have in the name of Jesus. Ephesians 1 is a good chapter for that. I memorized that whole chapter recently, and I was listening to Kenneth E Hagin - believers Authority, and I realized I still did not understand ever thing in there, man the word of God is full.
@StarkReality13 some people don't know weather it is God's will, for them to be healed. I tell you the truth, it is. Isaiah 53 is a chapter to read concerning that, and depending on your bible version, you need to look up why Jesus died, specifically what the original texts say about.
@StarkReality13 now listen, all of these things need to working together, to work. People need to have Faith, and to have faith, they have to know how to get faith, and they have to know what faith is, They have to be in agreement together, with each other, and with God in these things. And they all have to know, it is the will of God, and that despite, weather things change in that moment or not, it is done.
@IwillhonorGod Look, you've spent an inordinate amount fo time quoting the bible to me but let me give you a nickels worth of free advice: when trying to convince an atheist that you are right, quoting the bible is pointless. The bible is a book, written & compiled over hundreds of years in three different dead languages,edited, translated, & re-done numerous times. It is unreliable as a source of hard evidence. You seem like a nice person & you seem sincere,but I'm just not buying it.
@StarkReality13 Also, I would say, if you can not get truth into who ever it is, even if they are healed. It is very likely, I would just about say guaranteed, the symptoms are going to come back. And if you can not get truth in people, the last state will be worst than the first.
To put it maybe a more simpler way, if they loose there faith, they can loose there healing.
@IwillhonorGod But those that you can get truth into, those know, that they have authority in the name of Jesus, to command such sickness, and disease, and pain, to leave there body. Because for believers, they are not there own, they were bought with a price. The bible says, you are not your own, you were bought with a price. - and that price is the blood of Jesus.
Believers can command over there bodies, because they have authority, that any sickness or disease or pain, has to leave.
@IwillhonorGod "Believers can command over there bodies, because they have authority, that any sickness or disease or pain, has to leave." Oh. So...believing gives you magical powers? fascinating.
@IwillhonorGod "if they loose there faith, they can loose there healing." Exactly as I said earlier..you get healed and god gets the credit, you don't get better or you have a relapse and it's your fault...a win-win for your used car saleman of a god.
@StarkReality13 mark 16:14 Later He appeared to the eleven as they sat at the table; and He rebuked their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who had seen Him after He had risen. 15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.
@StarkReality13 mark 16:17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they[b] will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”
@StarkReality13 John14:12 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.
@StarkReality13 Matthew 17:14 And when they had come to the multitude, a man came to Him, kneeling down to Him and saying, 15 “Lord, have mercy on my son, for he is an epileptic[c] and suffers severely; for he often falls into the fire and often into the water. 16 So I brought him to Your disciples, but they could not cure him.”
17 Then Jesus answered and said, “O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I bear with you? Bring him here to Me.”
@StarkReality13 18 And Jesus rebuked the demon, and it came out of him; and the child was cured from that very hour.
19 Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said, “Why could we not cast it out?”
20 So Jesus said to them, “Because of your unbelief;[d] for assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you.
@StarkReality13 5 And the apostles said to the Lord, “Increase our faith.”
6 So the Lord said, “If you have faith as a mustard seed, you can say to this mulberry tree, ‘Be pulled up by the roots and be planted in the sea,’ and it would obey you. 7 And which of you, having a servant plowing or tending sheep, will say to him when he has come in from the field, ‘Come at once and sit down to eat’?
@StarkReality13 8 But will he not rather say to him, ‘Prepare something for my supper, and gird yourself and serve me till I have eaten and drunk, and afterward you will eat and drink’? 9 Does he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I think not.[c] 10 So likewise you, when you have done all those things which you are commanded, say, ‘We are unprofitable servants. We have done what was our duty to do.’”
@IwillhonorGod continuing on what I was saying earlier, you've given me no compelling reason whatsoever to believe as you believe. Like I said, you seem sincere, but you just don't have a strong argument.
@StarkReality13 ya, there is not a way for you test this and then believe, as is what most people do. But you would have to believe first, and to have faith first concerning healing.
@StarkReality13 I think, I would draw your attention, to your own life, as you go about your business, start watching for this principle in effect. What people say, and what people have. And what people say, they will have. And what they then after they say it, have.
@StarkReality13 no evidence....ha ha ha ha ha what a joker.....were you there when me and my family prayed for it not to rain on my dads farm land? and the clouds came all the way around, but it did not rain on my dads land, but all the way around? or have you see big brush fires stop in straight lines with no natural causes? but a super natural cause of praying to Jesus Christ?
@IwillhonorGod I'm not going to argue with you about what may or may not have happened in your life and what you choose to believe about it. I will say that I've seen sincere believers pray for their son to healed of quadripelegia and he wasn't. I've seen people disown their own children because of some bible verse. I've also seen two relatives die after refusing medical treatment because "god was gonna heal 'em!"
@StarkReality13 gonna, but not has. Their belief was that God was going to do it, some time in the future. But they did not believe it was done, even despite how things looked. Because the bible says, you walk by faith, and not by sight. But they were walking by sight.
by the way, I am sorry to hear that about your relatives. Though I have heard many great things about heaven, I have heard many people that have died and came back to life, who were christians and seen heaven, say......
@StarkReality13 They never could feel sorry for any Christian that ever died. Heaven was that glorious and far better than hear on the earth, even though you know, we grieve over peoples death. well, I don't know if that is a sensitive area for you, but I hope that is an encouragement, and some thing that would set your soul at peace.
@StarkReality13 I am glad that God let me know HE exists. But know for certain being a Christian is not easy, and it is not for the faint of heart. There are a lot of things to face, that can be hard to come to grips with. Like the fact, that many people are going to hell forever, or how much you sin against God. I seem to sin against God a lot these days, and it is not right. It is like spitting in the face of a perfect friend. You think to your self after, morron! why did you do that!?
@IwillhonorGod I'm worried about some "true believer" showing me how much jesus loves me by vandalizing my property, threatening my livelihood or terrorizing my child.
@StarkReality13 That is not a true believer buddy. Though Christians are not perfect, if they talk to God and know there bible, they should not be doing such things. The bible says, revenge is mine, I will repay. The bible says, do not overcome evil with evil, but some thing like, over come evil with good. Christians are called to do good to there enemies.
Christians know there is going to be a judgment for every thing that is done in the body, even the things done in secret.
@IwillhonorGod "That is not a true believer" They'd definately argue with you on that one. I know that there are a lot of good, sincere people out there who are christians. However, I do not feel that someone being a christian automatically makes them a good person or that christians are the only good people out there.
@StarkReality13 I speak those things concerning your property, and terrorizing your child...but I don't exactly know what you mean by your livelihood...?
If it is sin you speak of, it is good they speak up, should you turn from it, you will thank them later.
@IwillhonorGod I'm a teacher. As such, my employment is year to year. The constitution prohibits any sort religious test or qualification for a public office holder, but the place I live has a long history of disregarding unpopular people's constitutional rights.
@StarkReality13 And ya, the judgment both that is coming at the end of your life, and the judgment that is coming in the land of the living. I know some things that are coming and I dread them. I worry about these days of judgment, I see them coming with an absolute surety.
it is in me these days, to really start slaving in my job, or to get a second job in order to make the extra money I need to get the resources I am going to need in the day of trouble.
@StarkReality13 I believe the bible, because of the evidence, not because I ignore the evidence, not because of what I don't know, but because of what I do.
@IwillhonorGod you believe the bible because its what you choose to believe. You then sift and filter the evidence through that...accepting what suits your belief, discarding what doesn't.
@IwillhonorGod You know, I'm not so insecure about my own position that I feel the need to go tossing personal insults around. Nor am I so unintelligent that I get angry when someone doesn't give the rehearsed answers to my rehearsed questions. If my questions make you uncomfortable, or if you lack the intellectual maturity to understand and respond to them, well...that's your problem, not mine.
@StarkReality13 I am not angry. The scriptures are just fairly easy to understand for the most part, if you will ask God and search for understanding about it, you will have it.
ya, you insult your self with how you talk.
ya, some things are so basic in the bible, I don't know how some people don't get it, like your self. It is like you debating if you exist or not.
@StarkReality13 I would say also, I can prove, by the bible, and even out side sources, that God is not bound by time. But you will have to accept history, in order to do that. Let me know what you think of that, and I will fill you in if you want. enough said for today, I suppose. God bless ya.
@IwillhonorGod So you can use the bible to prove that god is not bound by time. Congratulations! I can use Superman comics to prove that Superman can fly.
@StarkReality13 God has always had all power. Even from the beginning of time, it is not like, He needed the time to get the power, but created time from His power.
Well don’t try jumping off any bridges, your reality might change.
@IwillhonorGod "Well don’t try jumping off any bridges, your reality might change." I can't jump off bridges and fly.....but Superman can....prove me wrong.
@StarkReality13 I am glad you can admit that you can't fly. But concerning the bible, there is many things written in advance, things that have not happened yet. And if you believe in history, which you should, if you don't, you can't believe in your self, you should be able to tell, if you want to know the truth, from reading the bible, that the Word of God has never been proved wrong, and many prophecies, even in the last 100 years have been fulfilled. aka Israel....
@StarkReality13 ....the time when knowledge will increase. The invention of the tv, and nuclear bomb are hinted at in the bible. Revelation is full of prophecies for this generation.
Like there's independent verifiable evidence of the Big Bang? Remember, all science ends as Theories. You can only make assumptions about how it created; but at the end; it still leads down to that 1 thing that nobody can answer... Plus, if you are God; and have the answers, fill me in. Why am I here? I personally, don't see the purpose of our creation, yet we're here. Stop thinking about life as a whole; and think of it as a single, because that's all you are; 1 being in the universe.
@StarkReality13 True, true. I agree. And if God helps me simplify the process; why ruin what makes the world happy? If there was no debate Science would be boring; and then their would've been a masterful controversy... RELIGION! lol. There's always something new. Just believe with your heart; not your eyes. If Science makes your heart happy. I'm nobody to judge. But; don't think for what people tell u. Think for what you feel. Anyways, God bless.
Good response
rpk58 1 month ago
Excellent responses. Lucidity is a wonderful thing to possess. That was not only a great Floyd track, but 8 minutes and 11 seconds of refreshing, reasoned logic in the swirling maelstrom of ravenous Idiot Design and Creationists stupidity.
Thank you.
:-D
allieron 5 months ago
This sounds like interim-period Pink Floyd.
...what is it?
IoEstasCedonta 6 months ago
@IoEstasCedonta "Dogs" by Pink Floyd from the album "Animals"....one of my father's favorite Floyd albums.
StarkReality13 6 months ago
In regard to your answer to the second question, and the assumption of the extraterrestrial intelligence inducing life on Earth, this does not answer the question at all - it just moves the same question to a different place (i.e. "how did the extraterrestrial life come to existence?", or "how did life in universe come to existence at all?")
Apart from that, your response is great :) thumbs up ;)
Wintershade3001 1 year ago
@Wintershade3001 I agree...probably should have clarified. But I found it futile to ask that in the face of "we have no evidence that ETs exist."..but I suppose saying "Even if we did....." Thanks for watching and for the comments!:-)
StarkReality13 1 year ago
This was a great response. I hope he watched it and seriously took your answers into consideration.
jgarza15770 1 year ago
Dude...I appreciate your concern, and I'm sure you are a sincere person: but you and I do not share a common reality. We are on two completely different wavelengths of thought, logic and reasoning. There isn't really anything I can say more than that.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
very well said my friend :)
braincloth 1 year ago
in question 4. you could have said, well all the major "life" groups didnt appear at the same time - which would have happend at creation - you don't find dinosaurs with cats etc. Probs for refering to AronRa's exellent video series. I would like to show the process of morals under christianity, by using Norbert Elias's work on his civilizing process, and the changes in attitude towards natural functions, i will single out blowing ones nose and spitting, it will be from manuals (continued)
BjornSeverinLarsen 1 year ago
@BjornSeverinLarsen (from last comment) explaining the prober behavior in France and Germany. Basicly for there to be a need for a manual, this behavior must have been evident in society at the specific times. Here we go, blowing your nose: 1300's don't cough or blow nose over the table so that nothing falls on the table, 1500s it is unseemly to blow your nose into a tablecloth. do not blow your nose with the same hand that hold the meat (to be continued)
BjornSeverinLarsen 1 year ago
@BjornSeverinLarsen (3rd comment, read from first) 1600s dont blow your nose in your hat or clothes, do it in you elbow as it becomes a trademan, do not use your hand, 1700s handkerchiefs is for blowing your nose, turn your head - basicly the attitude towards natural functions changed a great deal in these 400 years, which was under christianity. How did they change if the morals from Yaweh are so static and wonderful? Sptting: middelages do not spit over the table (to be continued)
BjornSeverinLarsen 1 year ago
@BjornSeverinLarsen (4th comment, read from 1st)do not spit on the table, don't spit on others at the table. 1530 turn away when spitting, do not spit every 3 words, if something purulent falls to the ground, tread on it.1558 do not spit at the table as far as possible, it is honorably not to spit by the table. 1859 Spitting is at all time a disgusting habit. The same clear development, and i ask the same thing as above. These things which is important to not embarres yourself (to be continued)
BjornSeverinLarsen 1 year ago
@BjornSeverinLarsen (5th comment, read from 1st) in your everyday life. These things have changed gradually, this is not evolution however, but it has some of the same features. Morals and ethics change over time, allso under christianity - christians simply change with it, and this way things that are selfevident, is things that have developed over many years in a continuos dynamic process. Sry for writing so much, but thought i had to explain my point
BjornSeverinLarsen 1 year ago
@BjornSeverinLarsen (5th comment, read from 1st) in your everyday life. These things have changed gradually, this is not evolution however, but it has some of the same features. Morals and ethics change over time, allso under christianity - christians simply change with it, and this way things that are selfevident, is things that have developed over many years in a continuos dynamic process. I've extracted and shortend from the text of Elias.
BjornSeverinLarsen 1 year ago
well, surly some one will have some comment for me to respond to soon enough. I look forward to some good preaching! wwwhhhooo!
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod I believe that word you are looking for is "surely." If you are going to go off on some drug-induced rant, you could at least have the decency to proofread what you post....or get someone to proofread it for you. Have a Nice Delusion!
StarkReality13 1 year ago
All of the fulfilled prophecy of the bible points to one thing, and that is to validate God's word, to unbelievers, because there is a judgment that is coming, and with out the Blood of Jesus, people listen hear and understand, you are going to hell. Jesus had said to speak these things, because He does not want any one going there, and you can't believe in some thing you have not heard of, so now you can believe it, because you have heard it.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
The temple that was talked about in Ezekiel, 500 years before Jesus, the temple institute is now getting to be very ready to build this, surely our generation will see this built.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
Alexander the great is mentioned in the book of Daniel, and when he conquered the known world, and came up to Jerusalem, the priests showed him where he was in the bible, and that the bible said he would do it.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
The bible said that Israel would fall apart 2 times, and come back together 2 times and that has happened. And that the people that did not rightfully have the land before, the land would not produce for them well, and it did not, and when they came back into the land it would, and it did and does.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
you say there is no proof that God exists, but you obviously have not opened a bible and looked at thing called prophecy, because there is lots of things that have been fulfilled in the last 100 years, and history is rich the bible fulfillment.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "history is rich the bible fulfillment." Honestly, does this phrase even make sense to you?
StarkReality13 1 year ago
logic = if there is a creator, there is a creation. If there are laws, there is a law giver. I don't know who made the law that you can't work backwards as you say. how would you like it if I said, from looking at the words I speak, you can not come to the conclusion there was a speaker?
your logic in non sense.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "your logic in non sense" Dude....Berlitz can help you if you are having trouble mastering the language.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 thats ok, I do appreciate the offer if it is senescence, but I have taught other people English before. It is my native tongue I know it well. but ya I did make a typing mistake there.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "senescence" .... the state of being old or the process of becoming old. Probably not the best choice of words.
"from looking at the words I speak, you can not come to the conclusion there was a speaker?"
Well, technically, you aren't speaking at all, you are writing. And I know that there is a writer because I can replicate the process of writing, or at least observe it being done. Whether or not someone wrote the words I read is what we call a "testable hypothesis."
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 ok, I don't know how that word got in there. but I know I did not say that, as I check it carefully.
but ya, technically, I am writing, so then fill in the blank there, a writer for what was written.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod Maybe the flying spaghetti monster put that word in there....and what do you mean "technically" you are writing? You know, when I first read your diatribes, I thought, "There's a slight possibility that this person is cocoa for coo-coo-puffs." You are steadily confirrning that hypothesis.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 man you correct my spelling, but here I have to spell it out for you....ha ha ha ha which is ok I guess. I am sure though with 10 seconds of thinking you could have figured it out...surely. If there is some thing written there is a writer.
understand that?
Have you heard of hacking? no?
its ok, concerning your hypothesis, the truth does not change, to get acceptance from others, or from the majority. And I am not validated by you.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod Yeah I figured out the whole writer/written bit ages ago. And I also said that I know something was written because I can see, replicate & independently verify the act of writing something....as I am doing right now.
And yes, i've heard of "hacking"... but what makes more sense: that a person would hack your comment to insert a non-sequitur, or you are a pseudo-intellectual who got busted using a big word he didn't know the meaning of to sound more intelligent than he was?
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 It does not matter what is likely, it only matters what is. The word that was used there, I never even heard of it before. And even though I believe the meaning was said of it, I do not even remember what the meaning was.
I don't post like some people post on here, trying to impress people with big words, I don't care about my own image, but I do care about peoples understanding.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 you mix words hard
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod let me explain it to you this way: my car didn't always exist....but the metals that make up my car have existed in some form or another for millenia.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 ya, well, just take a look at the creation, then. creation = creator. pretty simple.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod IF creation = creator, THEN creator = creation, So....who created your creator?
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 The key thing you have not considered is time. Because my God made time, so for you to speak like there was a time, when God was not made, is wrong. God was there from the beginning as He made time. It is interesting you know,
of His Names,
maybe your not familiar, But the Beginning and the End?
and concerning the creation of time, how do you talk about that? before time? is that right to say? I say that in connection with, His name, I am.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod Oh, I see. Special pleading. Well if you get to say that your god always existed, then I get to say that the stuff which makes up the universe always existed.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 I think maybe it could be said, that the power of God's word, existed before time. As God has had all power, before time. it is not like He needed time to get the power. He had the power to make time. So if you think of it like that, it could be true. But with out God not at all.
but ya, you can say and believe what you like, God did not make robots, but people with free will, so be free, as you are free.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 ya it is pretty plain in the laws of science, that say every thing tends towards chaos, and decay, and destruction. concerning time, if we are an infinite age as you suppose, then every star should be burned up, and all heat distributed evenly, because it has literally had forever to do it. But the stars are still burning.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod I never said "we are an infinite age"...if you are going to misquote me, have the common courtesy to misquote something I actually said.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 tell me, how you can say, the universe always existed, and say that time has not always existed.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod I didn't say the universe always existed...I said that the stuff which makes up the universe always existed. Once again, please have the common decency to misquote what I actually say.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 Can you grasp the concept, or do you want to mix some more words?
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod I'm not sure what "mixing words" means...But, I did find this interesting:
"The invention of the tv, and nuclear bomb are hinted at in the bible."
"hinted at"?
Why is your god such a tease?
This is the problem with most of your "prophecies"...you take a vague statement that can mean anything, a true believer like yourself comes along, attaches a meaning to it and viola! Clairvoyance! Its how Nostradamus "works."
And israel was a self-fulfilling prophecy...look it up.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 mixing words means beating around bush. It means you are finding some thing to argue about the change the subject, because you don't have any thing address the subject with. clear?
ya, they are hinted at. Do you know what a hint is?
why do you tease like you don't know what I mean? and like you don't understand some 4 letter words?
God did fulfill His Word truly, always has, always will.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod As a matter of fact, I do know what a hint is and here's an "unmixed" one for you:
You have no real evidence whatsoever that your god even exists, and even less real evidence that whatever bible you use is a reliable source of anything. You accept this stuff as true, not because of any real evidence, and certainly not because it's a fact, but because you WANT it to be true. You WANT it to be true bad enough that you will ignore anything that contradicts it..reality included.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 There is no thing in reality that does contradict it, so there is your problem right off the start.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "There is no thing in reality that does contradict it" Actually, there is when you consider that the invisible and the non-existant look exactly alike.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 except that things that do exist, and are invisible, can depending on what it is effect things that are visible.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod things that are invisible and do exist are still measurable and detectable. not so with your god.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 you said invisible, not measurable and detectable.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod Oh, so your god is measurable and detectable? Tell me how.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 It is mixed, greatly mixed, you know how? because you make your accusations, but you give no evidence. And I don't honestly know how you would give evidence of the non existence of some thing, I guess you would have to know the meaning of life, But if you did know it, you would know, what I speak to you is true. To be clear, there is no evidence for the things that don't exist, but history is the record that the bible is true, if you would just search it out.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod What sort of evidence would you like to demonstrate the lack of evidence to support your assertion that there is a god and that your god is the god of whatever version of the bible you use?
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 now you say, I have no real evidence. But history is evidence, and I have personal dealing with God, in terms of being healed multiple times, doctors said I would never walk, and I can run like a mad man today, and I have been electrocuted on my hands, and had my thumb turn black, by the end of the day my thumb was healed, no pain, no trace of any damage. I have had God come through for me, when tires have blown out on vehicles. God has come through time and again.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod So if a person is told they are unable to walk and they end up being unable to walk, does that count as evidence that god doesn't exist?
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 no it does not. And what ever situation you might have seen there, to my knowledge I don't know it. But I can tell you very plainly why most people are not healed. They are not sure if it is God's will and most don't know what faith is.
even you I would bet don't really know, what faith is, but you probably have an inkling of it.
I would say, about 99% of things that are received from God, are by faith.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "But I can tell you very plainly why most people are not healed. They are not sure if it is God's will and most don't know what faith is" Ah, so the people who aren't healed don't have enough faith. Sounds like a classic case of "blame the victim" to me. A real "win-win" for your god...he gets credit for healing people, and if he doesn't, its THEIR fault.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 You assume, that my God could make a mistake....ha ha ha ha ha.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod Nope. I am saying that he's got a pretty good racket going...someone gets healed and your god gets credit. Someone doesn't and it's the person's fault.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 God's system is different. people on the earth here say, when I see it, I will believe it. But the essence of what faith says, is believe first, then receive it, then you will see it.
well, I guess I don't need to guess what you are going to say, with your assumptions about faith. Say what you will, and I will address you misunderstanding, if it is there, like I think it is.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "God's system is different" How convenient. Your god sounds like a kid I used to play baseball with. The rules about strikes and balls and fair and foul always seemed to change whenever he got up to bat.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 maybe you do understand the rules of base ball, but what can you tell me concerning Faith and God?
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod I know nothing of god except what some heavily-edited book translated into numerous different English-language versions based on some ancient maunscripts written in three different dead languages ... and what people like yourself tell me about him. Based on those things, your god seems to be suffering from schitzophrenia, excessive narcissism, psychosis, and seems to have some anger management issues.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 ok, you don't know Him, you don't know His ways, and you don't understand the bible. Now tell me what you know specifically about faith? if you don't know, just say the word.
You seem to think, that God is changing the rules? well, what are the rules then?
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "ok, you don't know..." what am I unclear on?
"Now tell me ... about faith" You don't need evidence to have it. You accept something as true DESPITE what common sense or your own ability to discern reality tells you.
The rules are different for your god. We have to present evidence BEFORE the conclusion, Your god demands that you take him on faith, THEN he "reveals" this stuff. He's kind of like a landlord that demands the deposit and rent before you look at the apartment..
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 ok, you make known what you believe...good job I will say. Many people I talk to just bush beat.
You do know what healing is right? because that would be the apartment you and most people seeking. If they are looking for it already, then they have seen it, that is why they seek it, though maybe they have not attained it yet.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "That would be the apartment you and most people seeking. "Well...you completely turned that anaolgy into something I didn't even come close to saying.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 We were talking about healing, and how to receive healing by faith, which is how it is the majority of the time. and then we kind of Got into what God requires, which is faith. and receiving by faith. Salvation is through faith also.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 ok, I want to start on a foundation, that is established with you, and build up from there.
I think what you have grasped, is that faith is not seeing. It is good, you have understood this. Many people accuse me of having a blind faith. But faith is not seeing. It would be like me saying your ears are blind.
Faith is not seeing. The bible makes a distinguishment, you walk by faith, and not by sight.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 The bible says how to get faith, Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God. So if you or any one else would just read the bible, they would get faith.
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. - So you need to hope first.
now with out faith, it is impossible to please Him. (that is God)
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 James 1:6 But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. 7 For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; 8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 I would also add, if you really want to understand faith, to read Hebrews Chapter 11 - it is the great faith chapter of the bible. And if you would study even further, there is references in the chapter of things from the old testament that could be looked up.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 Agreement is another thing that needs to thoroughly understood. Authority is another, many believers don't know there authority, and the authority, they have in the name of Jesus. Ephesians 1 is a good chapter for that. I memorized that whole chapter recently, and I was listening to Kenneth E Hagin - believers Authority, and I realized I still did not understand ever thing in there, man the word of God is full.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 some people don't know weather it is God's will, for them to be healed. I tell you the truth, it is. Isaiah 53 is a chapter to read concerning that, and depending on your bible version, you need to look up why Jesus died, specifically what the original texts say about.
Truly by His stripes we are healed.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 now listen, all of these things need to working together, to work. People need to have Faith, and to have faith, they have to know how to get faith, and they have to know what faith is, They have to be in agreement together, with each other, and with God in these things. And they all have to know, it is the will of God, and that despite, weather things change in that moment or not, it is done.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod Look, you've spent an inordinate amount fo time quoting the bible to me but let me give you a nickels worth of free advice: when trying to convince an atheist that you are right, quoting the bible is pointless. The bible is a book, written & compiled over hundreds of years in three different dead languages,edited, translated, & re-done numerous times. It is unreliable as a source of hard evidence. You seem like a nice person & you seem sincere,but I'm just not buying it.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 Also, I would say, if you can not get truth into who ever it is, even if they are healed. It is very likely, I would just about say guaranteed, the symptoms are going to come back. And if you can not get truth in people, the last state will be worst than the first.
To put it maybe a more simpler way, if they loose there faith, they can loose there healing.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod But those that you can get truth into, those know, that they have authority in the name of Jesus, to command such sickness, and disease, and pain, to leave there body. Because for believers, they are not there own, they were bought with a price. The bible says, you are not your own, you were bought with a price. - and that price is the blood of Jesus.
Believers can command over there bodies, because they have authority, that any sickness or disease or pain, has to leave.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "Believers can command over there bodies, because they have authority, that any sickness or disease or pain, has to leave." Oh. So...believing gives you magical powers? fascinating.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod And when they command it to leave, it has to be done, there is no choice about the matter. It is done.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "if they loose there faith, they can loose there healing." Exactly as I said earlier..you get healed and god gets the credit, you don't get better or you have a relapse and it's your fault...a win-win for your used car saleman of a god.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 mark 16:14 Later He appeared to the eleven as they sat at the table; and He rebuked their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who had seen Him after He had risen. 15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 mark 16:17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they[b] will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 John14:12 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 Matthew 17:14 And when they had come to the multitude, a man came to Him, kneeling down to Him and saying, 15 “Lord, have mercy on my son, for he is an epileptic[c] and suffers severely; for he often falls into the fire and often into the water. 16 So I brought him to Your disciples, but they could not cure him.”
17 Then Jesus answered and said, “O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I bear with you? Bring him here to Me.”
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 18 And Jesus rebuked the demon, and it came out of him; and the child was cured from that very hour.
19 Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said, “Why could we not cast it out?”
20 So Jesus said to them, “Because of your unbelief;[d] for assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 21 However, this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting.”
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 5 And the apostles said to the Lord, “Increase our faith.”
6 So the Lord said, “If you have faith as a mustard seed, you can say to this mulberry tree, ‘Be pulled up by the roots and be planted in the sea,’ and it would obey you. 7 And which of you, having a servant plowing or tending sheep, will say to him when he has come in from the field, ‘Come at once and sit down to eat’?
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 8 But will he not rather say to him, ‘Prepare something for my supper, and gird yourself and serve me till I have eaten and drunk, and afterward you will eat and drink’? 9 Does he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I think not.[c] 10 So likewise you, when you have done all those things which you are commanded, say, ‘We are unprofitable servants. We have done what was our duty to do.’”
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod last section there was out of Luke 17
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod continuing on what I was saying earlier, you've given me no compelling reason whatsoever to believe as you believe. Like I said, you seem sincere, but you just don't have a strong argument.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 ya, there is not a way for you test this and then believe, as is what most people do. But you would have to believe first, and to have faith first concerning healing.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 I think, I would draw your attention, to your own life, as you go about your business, start watching for this principle in effect. What people say, and what people have. And what people say, they will have. And what they then after they say it, have.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 no evidence....ha ha ha ha ha what a joker.....were you there when me and my family prayed for it not to rain on my dads farm land? and the clouds came all the way around, but it did not rain on my dads land, but all the way around? or have you see big brush fires stop in straight lines with no natural causes? but a super natural cause of praying to Jesus Christ?
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod I'm not going to argue with you about what may or may not have happened in your life and what you choose to believe about it. I will say that I've seen sincere believers pray for their son to healed of quadripelegia and he wasn't. I've seen people disown their own children because of some bible verse. I've also seen two relatives die after refusing medical treatment because "god was gonna heal 'em!"
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 gonna, but not has. Their belief was that God was going to do it, some time in the future. But they did not believe it was done, even despite how things looked. Because the bible says, you walk by faith, and not by sight. But they were walking by sight.
by the way, I am sorry to hear that about your relatives. Though I have heard many great things about heaven, I have heard many people that have died and came back to life, who were christians and seen heaven, say......
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 They never could feel sorry for any Christian that ever died. Heaven was that glorious and far better than hear on the earth, even though you know, we grieve over peoples death. well, I don't know if that is a sensitive area for you, but I hope that is an encouragement, and some thing that would set your soul at peace.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 maybe you hang around liars to much? thinking every one is lying to you?
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod Some people lie...I just accept this.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 I am glad that God let me know HE exists. But know for certain being a Christian is not easy, and it is not for the faint of heart. There are a lot of things to face, that can be hard to come to grips with. Like the fact, that many people are going to hell forever, or how much you sin against God. I seem to sin against God a lot these days, and it is not right. It is like spitting in the face of a perfect friend. You think to your self after, morron! why did you do that!?
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "being a Christian is not easy" Try being an atheist. Better yet, try being an atheist in the Bible Belt, where I live.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 If there is no judgment, what are you worried about?
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod I'm worried about some "true believer" showing me how much jesus loves me by vandalizing my property, threatening my livelihood or terrorizing my child.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 That is not a true believer buddy. Though Christians are not perfect, if they talk to God and know there bible, they should not be doing such things. The bible says, revenge is mine, I will repay. The bible says, do not overcome evil with evil, but some thing like, over come evil with good. Christians are called to do good to there enemies.
Christians know there is going to be a judgment for every thing that is done in the body, even the things done in secret.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "That is not a true believer" They'd definately argue with you on that one. I know that there are a lot of good, sincere people out there who are christians. However, I do not feel that someone being a christian automatically makes them a good person or that christians are the only good people out there.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 I speak those things concerning your property, and terrorizing your child...but I don't exactly know what you mean by your livelihood...?
If it is sin you speak of, it is good they speak up, should you turn from it, you will thank them later.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod I'm a teacher. As such, my employment is year to year. The constitution prohibits any sort religious test or qualification for a public office holder, but the place I live has a long history of disregarding unpopular people's constitutional rights.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 And ya, the judgment both that is coming at the end of your life, and the judgment that is coming in the land of the living. I know some things that are coming and I dread them. I worry about these days of judgment, I see them coming with an absolute surety.
it is in me these days, to really start slaving in my job, or to get a second job in order to make the extra money I need to get the resources I am going to need in the day of trouble.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 I believe the bible, because of the evidence, not because I ignore the evidence, not because of what I don't know, but because of what I do.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod you believe the bible because its what you choose to believe. You then sift and filter the evidence through that...accepting what suits your belief, discarding what doesn't.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 Any one with half sense in one eye could figure these scriptures out, with just a little bit of thinking. Are you stupid?
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod You know, I'm not so insecure about my own position that I feel the need to go tossing personal insults around. Nor am I so unintelligent that I get angry when someone doesn't give the rehearsed answers to my rehearsed questions. If my questions make you uncomfortable, or if you lack the intellectual maturity to understand and respond to them, well...that's your problem, not mine.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 I am not angry. The scriptures are just fairly easy to understand for the most part, if you will ask God and search for understanding about it, you will have it.
ya, you insult your self with how you talk.
ya, some things are so basic in the bible, I don't know how some people don't get it, like your self. It is like you debating if you exist or not.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod I know I exist because there is independently verifiable evidence that I do. Not so with your god.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 nothing you will look at.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 I would say also, I can prove, by the bible, and even out side sources, that God is not bound by time. But you will have to accept history, in order to do that. Let me know what you think of that, and I will fill you in if you want. enough said for today, I suppose. God bless ya.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod So you can use the bible to prove that god is not bound by time. Congratulations! I can use Superman comics to prove that Superman can fly.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 God has always had all power. Even from the beginning of time, it is not like, He needed the time to get the power, but created time from His power.
Well don’t try jumping off any bridges, your reality might change.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "Well don’t try jumping off any bridges, your reality might change." I can't jump off bridges and fly.....but Superman can....prove me wrong.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 I am glad you can admit that you can't fly. But concerning the bible, there is many things written in advance, things that have not happened yet. And if you believe in history, which you should, if you don't, you can't believe in your self, you should be able to tell, if you want to know the truth, from reading the bible, that the Word of God has never been proved wrong, and many prophecies, even in the last 100 years have been fulfilled. aka Israel....
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 ....the time when knowledge will increase. The invention of the tv, and nuclear bomb are hinted at in the bible. Revelation is full of prophecies for this generation.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
Militant Atheist:
"There is no god damn God, god damn it!"
Atheism FTW! XD
spade6sic6 1 year ago
Like there's independent verifiable evidence of the Big Bang? Remember, all science ends as Theories. You can only make assumptions about how it created; but at the end; it still leads down to that 1 thing that nobody can answer... Plus, if you are God; and have the answers, fill me in. Why am I here? I personally, don't see the purpose of our creation, yet we're here. Stop thinking about life as a whole; and think of it as a single, because that's all you are; 1 being in the universe.
vegasdry 1 year ago
@vegasdry Umm...I don't recall claiming to be god.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@vegasdry as far as why you are here, that's something you are going to have to figure out for yourself.
StarkReality13 1 year ago
@StarkReality13 True, true. I agree. And if God helps me simplify the process; why ruin what makes the world happy? If there was no debate Science would be boring; and then their would've been a masterful controversy... RELIGION! lol. There's always something new. Just believe with your heart; not your eyes. If Science makes your heart happy. I'm nobody to judge. But; don't think for what people tell u. Think for what you feel. Anyways, God bless.
vegasdry 1 year ago
@CASEwithscience Done
StarkReality13 1 year ago
Very well done! That's a great set of answers to those ever-asked questions! Thanks for doing this!
awreslr2 1 year ago