I have 2 125 watt hydrofarm grow lights 8,500 lumens a piece with hood 69.00$ free shipping from amazon and 2 65 watt cfls for lower branch coveragei got a inline duct fan 22.00$ with free shipping off amazon 500 cfm of fresh air a minute 10 gallon grow bags 9.00$ for 10 pack and fox farm ocean forest potting soil 50 pound bag 25.00$ fox farm grow big, big bloom, and tiger bloom and mylar for reflective properties and my trees are growing fast get your supplys off amazon free shipping over 25
yo bro good vids, im like a 3 day ago beginer grower lmfao with L's, i have not one lamp or equipment like you for indoors, outdoors is where im at, but it just sprouted from the ground, so HELP ME OUT!! what can i do to have a successful growth with out killing one of gods greatest creatoins. thanks
@cobraopts7 i was waiting on some cash for flower room equipment that didnt make in time ended up moving and cut them down was trying to just let em go long as possible under those cfls.
umm i think your prob might be chemical wise as to that i watched this one guys that only happened on these certain plants that he was mixing non compatable chemicals together, well if you didnt figure out the problem, give it more light and room to grow.
my guess is your female started producing seeds because of too much stress due either to aggressive bending or a combination of light spectrum, nutrients, bending, etc. I'm not saying bending is bad, just that i've seen it cause too much stress if done too aggressively.
i wasn't able to see, are you supplementing nutrients? I'm sure you know this stuff but figure i'd add my $0.02. =) I'm always happy to see another grower sharing and learning.
@mygrowshow yeah i ran into same problem again, with a dominate indica where it produced male pods when i crop and bent the the bejesus out of it lol then i cut back everything but main branche and well since then stopped producing male flowers at that point. no more pollen sacs so it was stress lol in the second case not this vid. anywho thought id share that
you need more light, and space. Plants love space, good lighting (timing is also important) and air circulation. You'll need good nutrients as well and take better care of it. You should read up more about indoor cannabis growing there is plenty of info out there. Peace
@StartswithASeed of coarse, im sure you know basics. It's the combination of these things and detail which really matters... Which is also really the beauty of it. All i can say is practice makes perfect :)
whats with all the aggressive comments, you have the whole concept of growing weed twisted, just enjoy it and chill out. if you dont agree with some of the advise then dont take it. anyway, nice lookin plants man, wud have liked to have seen fully formed buds coz judging by the plants id say they were impressive. check out my vid i just harvested 2 northern lights under cfl's, let me know what you yhink
@jabber818 AGressive? me? lmao i just letting them know where they stand. Of course they need a good comment back. example.TheEgoShredder
2 weeks ago buddy if you buy a real light you'll get some real weed not just dead hairs lol faggot!
Yep so tahts a good one in the mail box very positive. LMAO anywho thanks for comment and yes flowering would have been just amazing/ would have been just enourmous. seeing as cannabis plants seem usually get about 2 to 3 times as large in shoot lengths.FLWR
Nice grow really beautiful work, I live in Summit County and am growing my first plant (AK-48) from a clone with all CFL. I tried LST at the 30 day mark for one week then released the branches and saw explosive growth over the next three weeks. Today is around two months, I thinned my plant down a bit to let more light in and did LST on all branches. I plan on growing in veg till maybe thanksgiving and then switching her over along with a 4 ft big foot momma my dispensary has.
@TheEgoShredder First those are preflowers on the one plant, and second they are both under a 18 hours of light a day. Thats Veg so no theer should not be freaking buds on them i certainly hope not ;) As for faggot remark please dont project your problems into my channel we are talking about Hemp / Cannabis/.
@TheEgoShredder Oh damn i guess its not only gay issues you have maybe homofobic and now its getting racial oh my You must talk to someone about your in depth problems with others and how that affects you. But seriously heres my come back for you! POST you plants even if its a tomatoe lets see YOUR GREEN DUMB!
@StartswithASeed ur a fuckn retard, gay and homophobic issues are the same thing, as for ur little cock sucking request for me to post pics of my plants lol I dont encriminate myself on the internet u bitch. My hatred towards fags like you has no effect on me either u nigger LOL i hope you have a good time smokin ur crop of hairs
@TheEgoShredder Actually i had commented your gay posting bash for the second time . used the word for what seems to be your Dis,. lol Then you got racial . So saying the same thing is not what was intended i had pointed out to different variations of hate. Anywho unless you got some actual Video posts with somekind of plant growing maybe show some pics and tips just Please Get freaking bent. nJohnnySeed.
@TheEgoShredder I bet my one plant that i got a halfquarter from which i grew in a cardboard box is much better quality smoke then you could ever grow :D
startswithaseed na i dnt hate led or cfl,s,my m8s got a 3 long tube light wid little led lights on it wot he put on him self an its a pure light,i wudint mind usein led or even cfl,s ONLY 4 veg tho,cuz ye can keep the bulbs alot closer 2 d plant even let the plant grow in to it ,keepin dem small bushy an stoky but wen ad flower ad av 2 use me 600 sodium
@rockferrydawson LOL sorry hopefully you understand that if LUMENS has all colors including the ones taht are not useful then its rating is irrelevant meaning. that a lumen rating has incorporated the non-useful light for photosynthesis. lol There fore makes it NOT ideal for using in terms of growth realtions and lighting lumen rating. Correct me if iam wrong there . ;) I know you hate LED but sure you can agree that this is science not some magic.
@duboisiboy LMAO there is no relation between lumens and growth. Iam pretty sure then you are saying we can grow with green light bulbs then? Since Lumens can refer to this color? Flaw3ed ok just let it go dude and stop posting this crap with out looking and doing a search ;)
so wot ye sayin is giv it at least a week veg wen rooted ye.an av got every size pot ,so jus separate dem,an not botherd if i only get a 20 bag a plant,its just d underneath of me scrog a tuk away
mines a 600 sodium an it dus let off loads of heat its a pain in the arse,a was wonderin av just took a bout 5 cuttins off my plant as soon as thay have rooted am just gona put them straight into flower with my 2 big plants BUT cud i just pot them all togther in 1 pot??am only doin it f a little experiment, any advice seed m8
@rockferrydawson Rooting cutting will ahve the same properties as the plant they were takin from. Mature plant mature Clones. Only deal is the root system needs a little establishment befor flower to get anything remotly useful in the way of fruits. Invidulay pot them its very cheap maybe 40cent a pot, We be alot easier to move plant as they finsh and as they need to be moved to use light Invidualy pot id say just easier that way. lol and 1 plant maybe just stunt the rest if you plant together,.
thanks seed,its a 600 sodium av got an d heat off it is unreal i ad trouble wid heat on me last crop,but am gna flower frew d nite instead of the day,a posted a new vid the otherday av a little luk its cannabis plants eminem,quality abit poor tho,shitty nokia n85 lol
Lumens count is for Human visibility only, becasue the fact that Green is part of that visible spectrum and dosent amount to much of anything for photosysnthesis. But yes a 600watt bulb would be fine for indoor gardening. Produces alot of heat from balast and light. but dont forget a 600watt bulb eats alot more than just 600watts. lol effecient ballast is good idea if your going that route. So i dont know what to yes about the lumens. But sure HID é Hps or MH should be a valid source of light.
@StartswithASeed You're unbelievable mate. Giving out advice like you're an expert when you haven't even grown a single nice bud. You remind me of a first year medical student who has learnt a hell of a lot in his first year but is in no way qualified who still thinks he knows enough to practice. Would you go to him if you were sick? Oh well, if people are dumb enough to listen to your advice I guess it's their problem. Have a look at '8 week S.AG.E. grow in 4 minutes' That guy knows his stuff.
@duboisiboy What are you refering to? If your just some Lumens guy just get lost you fail/. Dont need to be an expert on anything to know that lumens is a flawed system.
@rockferrydawson You get sweet fuck all lumens off a CFL. A 130W CFL produces about 10,000 lumens whereas a 600W HPS produces about 90,000. If you do the calculations you'll realise that to match the HPS you'd need twice the wattage in CFL's. What's the point if you need 9 x 130W CFL's to get the equivalent of 1 600W HPS? CFL's are for fools and pretenders
@duboisiboy Yes your heard hat right becasuer the fact that visible light soectrum for human eye contains green and other like colors not usued in plant growth please explain how that dosent make it flawed/. Oh and yes Lumens is a measurement for huamn eye. lol dont post this shit. lumen boy!
@StartswithASeed You are right in saying that the green part of the spectrum is pretty useless when it comes to photosynthesis however you seem to forget that when you increase the intensity of white light you are not only increasing the green part of it but all the other parts as well. Why is it that grow shops don't stock or recommend 23W cfl's? They are not bright enough. Why do they give a figure for the lumen output of different grow lights? Because it matters.
@duboisiboy. Iam stating fact not some theory of some bullshit from you/. Simply using the lumens in realtion with plant growth has majoir flaws. Simply the fact that Lumens is the measuremant for vusuble light for human eye and in that spectrum there some colors that have very little to possible no effect on plant growth .little more reasearch befor snapping back at me so quickly. Also in lumens i believ that its dosent include UV or IR light. that is somewhat important to growth aswell.
@StartswithASeed Ok Johnny, believe what you like. Ignore the word lumen and instead think about light intensity. If you up the intensity you increase the growth, simple. Mate, I do know what I am talking about. I don't know why you can't get your head around the light intensity issue, it seems so obvious to me. If it weren't important they wouldn't make high powered lights and everyone would be using 23W CFL's
@duboisiboy That enuf of your harassment. We were talking about lumens and the flaw it has in its realtion to growth, dont try and spin the subject for what the 10th time ? You cant grow a plant with a green bulb, and taht green bulb has lumens to! ok so no matter how many green light bulbs you will not grow what say a blue and red light on its own could do with low lumens. Please you dont know squat about ..hmmm i thinking possibly anything. Peace and wellness.
@jdips090 The full spectrum bulbs are helical 26watt ge bulbs rated at 6500kelvin temp and the larger one in the middle hanging without a dome on it is 42watt i believ at 4100k But those full psectrums GE`s from that company i have had running for almost 12 months. They last about 6 months but i have a few at 12. lol Dont buy no name bulbs you will not be happy with how long they last and end up just being a flickering light lolé. Iam sure same goes for HID.
@StartswithASeed thanks for the feedback i just bought a few 42 watts and 55 watts, i also have some 26's layin around. but i havnt started the operation yet but id like to keep in toudh, thanks
@danocean111213 Thanks SINC JAY. I dont get all this misonformation myself lol ist about spectrum and well sure could have used more lights but iam showing what an average very low watt grow can acomplish for anyone looking to get into the hobbie for cheap start to see if it sparks interest. Peace wellness. I like it more and more each day and hopefully one day will have rain over all my food i consume. Which i mean grow it lol I can wish lol.
@StartswithASeed i understand you. i grow low wattage as well, but in miniature bonsai style.all im saying is mixing blues and reds can produce some crazy crops in terms of quality.
@danocean111213 Hints the word spectrum lol i basically was agreein lol iam sure you just missed that lol happen to me alot miss a little tib bit changes what was said anywho hell yeah all about the spectrum, interesting i have heard that reasoning for reds being more dominaint could have something to do with evolution and where the plants more than likly came from that blue penetrates less than red into water theory went like thta somewhat> plants evolved from the water and moved to land? lol
@StartswithASeed maybe.its possible yes.evolution is unstoppable,maybe in a a decade one could graft fruit and cannabis. eat some blueberries and get completely stoned. something like 30% thc per berry would be nice.or some wacky strawberries.but as far as spectrum goes. idealy having all the colors of the rainbow inyour growing area,would be perfect. but not the light bill. lol
@danocean111213 Trichomes only forms on the outsdide of the plant and comes usually around nodes or gland areas i have heard them refered to. I dontz ever think it will be inside a fruit. There is obvisouly a reason for cannabis and evolution either A be carried it around becasue its many uses allowing it to strive and evolve without much interferance and well Its succeede i guess becasue of all its properties Like alot of resistance to bug and dieseas and well its medical properties for mammals
@novalution86 Thye do maybe i should pimp them out then. You comparing them to what ? the best known lights for growing of course otherwise just shut it lmao/.
dats 1 big plant how long u veg da 4 av a luk at my little lst plants,CANNABIS LST SGROG,an thats not a gud fing da seed,probly heat stress turnin plant hermie it happend 2 my amnesia lemons cumin up 2 the end of my flower
@rockferrydawson Naw dude its wqasnt hermie i had cloned and flowered with no signs of male parts. for each. Unfortunatly i will never know for a full flower peroid could happen further into it. Also harsh growth nutes at early stages of growth Seedling can make hermie from whjat i have read to Lots of things but no hermie here. had chopped down and all ties with any of this strain is gone now lol Peace and wellnes.
LMAO... Hey, where do you get those 23W cfl's from? I've looked in 3 different hydro shops and none of them stock them. The smallest light they have is a 250W cfl and the guy said I'd need about 4 of them just for starters...
@duboisiboy Its could be 26watt aswell the Brand i bought was form a hardware store or even walmart will do if they carry GE bulobs get the daylight 6500 k bulb runnign usuage of i believ 26watt hydroshop wants started 20$ for there ther are like 3 for 11$ or so i believe maybe 2 for 11$ cheap anywho. good for perking up and simple veg.
@StartswithASeed Sorry my friend, I was being sarcastic. The only way I'd ever use a 26W cfl is if I had like 50 of them in a 2 foot square cupboard. They are way way way too weak to grow bud. If you want a low heat, low energy solution you should look at the LED UFO arrays and even they are pretty ordinary. Just bite the bullet and get a 400W HPS. A real light which will grow real bud
@duboisiboy Well did you see the clone in flower under one? Its not to bad. Was looking at LED for a long time. A hps in not in budget to keep up with. Alot more than just a light bulb. Easier said than done. And real bud wtf is REAL bud iam sure its all real as long as it works and well no additives ;) The sunshine systems LEDS look prmising but shit anyone can render opions online i want proof has what it will provide. I seen vids with leafs that had damdage from an HID light CLaimin Led. lOL
@StartswithASeed A 400W HPS will cost you less than an ounce of bud and grow you 20 times as much bud as your CFL. Once you have one you'll know what a real bud is
@duboisiboy Ok i just stated taht theree is alot more into play with HID lighting light ventilation 200$ for a fan then ducting 25$ maybe a grow tent for controlled environment 300$ and a ballast maybe 300$ a good bulb 75$. i can go on light reflector. 50$. Now teher is a fire hazard so the ballast are now outside the tent. And if i need cooling system now that even more. Its makes the whole thing very expensive done right. Untill i have a good 1300$. Oh and carbon filters 100-$ and up.
@StartswithASeed Yes, very true, to do everything properly is an expensive proposition. It does require that sort of money for starters if you want to set it all up in one go. You can start bit by bit and as your yields improve you can better fund your setup. For starters get yourself a 130W CFL, not sure what it'll cost where you are but here they're about US$95 including the reflector and globe. You wouldn't need to get anything else straight away. And it'll always be useful... to be continued
@duboisiboy I understandf you canbuild up but i think your forgetting the point you add a HID light you need all that stuff right there with it to make it work effectivly Peace and Wellness. JohnnySeed
@StartswithASeed That's why I suggested starting with a more powerful CFL. Still not a great growlight but a lot better than your 26W globes that you have now. You will be able to use the CFL for clones once you have a HPS but in the mean time it'll get better results than the 26W.
@duboisiboy I need less heat . My cab in running about 30. I want like 23. . But with the samll cab i have now I have ought to make the best of it. What do you think of LEDs? or t5? ?
@StartswithASeed Have a look at this vid "90w LED UFO Comparison 400w HPS" it seems to suggest that a LED array with the right wavelength will do ok for growth but I still don't think there'd be enough intensity fot decent bud. Don't be too worried about 30 degrees, that won't really bother the plants. Dilute your nutes a tad if you are worried. It's the extra light intensity that'll make the most difference. Have you thought about putting a computer fan in the top of your cab? That should help
@duboisiboy Check my my video. "Grow Cabinet Progress pt.1 " I will have a more recent one soon. temps still at 30 average and still climbs. Puting in an intake Fan aswell to help take drag off the exhaust fan.
@StartswithASeed Looking good, you're obviously putting some thought into it. Still the major issue is the lack of light. Have you thought about 'party lights'? Your local hardware or lighting store should stock all the fittings. This way you can add extra globes whenever you want. You could fix it to a light weight board and hang it so you can raise it as the plants grow. With say 10 globes lowered down to only a few inches above the plants, you will get faster growth.
@StartswithASeed Yep, looking good. Keep making little improvements here and there and you'll be getting kickass results before too long. I've just switched from an aeroponic setup to coco fibre. I like the coco fibre so far, looks like a great medium but at this stage I only have seedlings in it. I guess I'll know in a few months. My cab is about 12' x 1 3/4' and I have 4 400W HPS's in it. Thinking of upgrading to 600W lights. I have a seperate grow space so the main room is constantly on 12/12
@StartswithASeed I've never taken pics or vids, not looking to create any evidence that could be used against me. I know a guy who did time because of a pic he had on his phone..... I don't know the law there but here I prefer to be cautious
@StartswithASeed Also, don't worry about the temperature too much. It has to get pretty hot to hurt the plants. Think about it, Hawaii is the ultimate natural grow room right? It's a lot hotter than 23 degrees there most of the time. Ideally it would be lower but we can get away with conditions not being ideal. It's a pretty amazing weed we're dealing with right? Grows all over the world in all sorts of conditions. Light + CO2 + H2O + nutes = growth. Up the light to drive growth faster, simple
@duboisiboy Temp does matter a great deal. Its causing nute lock out and drying soil/ The plant is focusing on Water not Food. When the temp is around 20 to 25 i can see the difference But yes they do adjust to enviroment, alot of plants do. Salvia divorium i beoiev its spelt can change environment to house plant over time. Not all in one shot but gradually. causing less ahock. But changes growth speed and all kinds of things lol/.
@StartswithASeed Sun light contains green light in its spectrum too. You'll notice that areas that get a lot of sun have more plants growing in them than areas that are permanently shaded. You should also realise that the sun gives off the same spectrum year round, it's just the intensity and day length that varies throughout the year. All plants have evolved under the sun, not specific spectrum grow lights.
Just think about it mate, honestly I'm not trying to give you false information...
@duboisiboy lol Thats so funny your agreeing that green light has nothing to do with it. Its the intensity of the others colors in the spectrum. Unless you are saying you know a plant that can grow off green light then? LMAO do you i want to see it .is it blue ?
@duboisiboy total sense taht lumens contains green and green dosent grow the palnts on the planet. Hmm and green is part of the spectrum scale of lumens which is based of visible light for the human seeing eye. lol It makes sence. Do i need to explain it any further or should i just complie a good video post of info and you can refer to that ;) ?
@StartswithASeed Light intensity (lumens) and light spectrum are two seperate things. Sunlight is what plants use to grow in nature, yes? Do we agree on that?
Sunlight contains green in its spectrum. It also contains all the other colours including ultraviolet and infrared. If the sunlight is more intense (like in the tropics) there is more lush plant growth. Even though it has green in its spectrum. It is the intensity of the other colours in its spectrum that causes the better growth.
@duboisiboy How thanks for taking what i just said and posting it back up and correcting me again, that you cannot grow something on lumens as a scale of relation to growth of our plant life. Becasue if you used that scale you could get a reading from a green light and even if it had 50,000 lumens or whatever you want lol it wouldnt grow anything at all are you getting in your head yet that green dosent grow and green is part of our suns spectrum but that dosent mean it grows plants lmao.
@duboisiboy Iam done with your shit. you know exactaly why you cant post heer anymore. Didnt think there were ppl that could defy science. Shit i guess you must believ that the world is only a feww thousand years old and Jesus can walk on water to right? But shit you know we dont need to prove just a million or so ppl just need to believe it to make it true sorry but in your case thats why Humans will fail this world beacsue simple minds cant grasp simple concept or so i thought /.
@xrayfeeney Naw man no point letting him spread misinformation/ unless you think hes right and have a real answer for me lol, Yes Peace and Wellness is the way/ Peace and wellness JohnnySeed. Tganks Xray for the posting ;) ,
@xrayfeeney who the fuck are you the voice of reason? I bet you like takin it up the ass i bet u like blowin little boys your a prick id like to suck out ur eyeballs and skull fuck you
@StartswithASeed Then when you can afford it get a cheap exhaust fan, some ducting and a roll of tape. Next would be to get another light then to improve the exhaust. Bit by bit your setup will get better and better until you've got a kickass system going. Each step can just be done when you can afford it be that every 6 weeks or every 6 months but bit by bit you'll get there. That way you never need to come up with much more than $100 or so to step it up a bit. Each step is achievable...
@fukincunts Thanks, fuckincunts/ I cant satnd the old comments you grow looks like shit. When i grew them with like 5$ of lectricity a onlt on like 4$ lights lmao funny as hell. I dont think anyone has ever heard of mothers either.
that plant looks like straight up crap.. ur not getting enough light and u need more light and then ventilation to get rid of the heat... view my video if u want... over a week later since i made the video . my buds are getting bigger and look good... u look like uve got the smallest buds ever on that vegged up plant bro... u got some work to do
@partyongarth420 STraight up crap, lmao. There are no buds lmao its still 18 hour lighting. LOL Some judgement call you got there buddy. THta i got work to do. LMAO These are VEGGIN! can you see? HEAT? Its a tall closet. with ventalition to the outside. Heat to from outdoors/ to expensive to run cooling equipemnt and then just vent it outside . I know wtf is going on. you dont. HATER
@duboisiboy You obvisouly dont get why most ppl post do you . I post it weather its fail or not. It all can be l;earned from. I dont care. Its dosent mean i dont knwo what iam talking about lmao
@StartswithASeed Cool man, no probs chill out. Just that I've noticed that in all your vids there aint a single nice bud. Why would someone want to learn from you? They should learn from people who grow good bud. You should learn from people who grow good bud. Good luck man, peace
@Reeseguy45 I Learnt by watched a bunch of different grows on youtube taht were in my price range and situation. and see what things went wrong and what things help Ill start by saying at around 30+ temp is not allowing them to eat at all just dries out then i have to water but 25 and under i get some noticable growth. I have little control over alot of these factors making things at times very very slow . Just dont look at one vid and say ok tahts it.
@Reeseguy45 Alot of things come into factor growth rate. Spectrum or kelvin rating of bulb. Dose it have what is needed for plant growth The color spectrum. The temperatures. Airflow (co2) Nutes and size of plant will change nute schedules accordingly. Ph lvls. All kinds of things. lol I am sure there is more taht can be mentioned like pest controling having cl;ean room Filters timers Pumps... I can help direct you i started these as my first plant ever grown. For first ever i think its alright.
@Reeseguy45 lmao, like I said this guy aint the guy to get advice from. The light intensity is far more important than the spectrum. You'll notice that all the vids where there's some pretty dank bud growing have powerful lights, all the rest is just fine tuning
@69zebedee this plant being just over 2 x 2 feet and having close to 14 top bud sites and each branche being about 2 feet long each.(thats about 12 or 14 branches at 2 feet) One bulb at only 1600Lumen at 26watt and 65ook. grew thhose. Fuck you taht i dont know shit Just get lost Lumen boy.
@StartswithASeed Dude, believe what you want to believe. As a grower who gets results as good as anyone out there I was just trying to help you do better. Your plants are pathetic, they are incredibly slow growing and the buds you show on the other vid are wispy crap. It makes no difference to me what you do but if you listened to not just me but every other grower who has made similar comments you would get much better results.
@69zebedee The issue is not the lights man . You dont know the details of the environment and you can barly grasy the concept of photosynthesis see as you believ lumen scale is a system in which should be used for growing. Such fool you are/. Just leave ok. Lets see your vids.
@StartswithASeed Photosynthesis n. process by which the energy of sunlight [PHOTO] is trapped by the chlorophyll of green plants and used to build up complex materials from carbon dioxide and water. [SYNTHESIS] Ok, that's a basic definition of photosynthesis, do we agree on this? If so then logically it follows that if there is more energy there will be more complex materials being built (more plant growth) So if the light intensity (energy aka lumens) is increased the growth also increases.
@69zebedee No. Not true . Lumens system is flawed just stop posting thsi shit trying to make it fit your answer. Lumens if you ask any reputatble hydroponics store they will tell you it dosent really matter to much . and that its flawed in the fact that green light is part of visible light which is the flaw becasue its not used in phohtsysnthesis. You can quote what ever you want but with the whole story you just regergitating shit from forums.
@StartswithASeed Ok, I'll make a vid for you. I'll start with a punnet of strawberry seedlings and put 2 of them under 2 x 15W 2.7k CFLs and another 2 under an old Son-T-Agro 400W HPS (also 2.7k). I'll grow all the seedlings under the exact same conditions except for the lights. Same medium (coco fibre), same pots, same nutrients and even the same cupboard with a divider to keep the lights separate. The only difference will be the light source for the plants. Does this sound like a fair test?
@69zebedee 2.7k bulb is not what iam using and will fail horribly in veg for almost any plant. using same medium and what not is also flawed testing seeing as IR lvls are highier and alot for radiant heat can change intake of nutes and effect growth speed. etc. You are just one lost person when it comes to the complexity of growing and nature. change one thing have to cahnge it all to fit. Just gte lost your banned you havent made a logical argument and just bombarb my channel with nonsenae.
@oska42 That is not the point. hes dosent know. Hell yeah i know what lights i want but i cannot afford them but i know that these bulbs have the spectrum for Phohtsysthensis to occur. And lumens dont matter for growing becasue they have green light involved in human eye vissible light which all dosent affect growing there for its unreasonable to use3 that method of measurement for growing Lumens are not thwe way to measure the quality of light. Dont listen to him.
@StartswithASeed look we know (lumens) is a measurement perceived by the human eye but it's still a measurement of * light intensity * none the less. Okay, so lumens themselves technically don't make our plant "grow " but they still do provide us with a measurement of light intensity so we can achieve optimal light efficiency. So all 69zebedee is trying to say is add more light intensity(lumens) to achieve faster and larger yields, but surely you knew what he meant. Whats wrong with that?
@Bezzzzo That would not acheiev optimal results for growing becasue of the green spectrum. dude its flawed. I suppose tho If you know anything and incorporated the Kelvin rating with the type of production plant then one could use it to see the inetesity of teh over all light But lumens beside the fact means nothing. Of course i know taht more of the intesity of the spectrum iam using would be helpful but i have demonstrated results with about 2000luemsn a plant they grew without fancy equip.
@Bezzzzo I know what i know. But hes arguing withme and constantly posted iam an idoit becasue i wont except his flawed view of Lumens and plant growth. I dont need to hear this lumens shit. A green bulb has luemns to but it wont grow Just dude its flwed for plants and using as a refernce.Thanks for your input but seriously ppl need to read and stop going on myths and misinformation. Peace and Wellness
@StartswithASeed Hope you're not confusing kelvin rating(Spectrum) of the bulb with lumens?? i mean you can buy HIDs in 6.4k and 2.7k..ect.ect that have a much higher lumen output with the same spectrum as your 23watt cfls. It's the same light spectrum but stronger, you know this yeah? I mean a 400w MH(6.4k veg) and 400w HPS(2.7k flower) will whoop that absolute dickhole off of a 23w(6.4k cfl veg) and 23w(2.7k cfl flower) because it has a much higher itensity. HID = High "intensity" discharge
@Bezzzzo Iam not cinfusing shit do i need to explain one more time tahvluemens measure the light visible by the human eye/ Which means green is in theer and that dosent count . My bulb has large spikes higher in the range of nm inthe unsauble light then in usable nm which means i was probibly using even less light then the bulb provides less than 1600 lumen, Please just read photosysnthesi and studeis done ok. between400-495nm 625-680nm is the range of which most plants become active for growth
Ok mate, if you're not interested in help here why ask? Your crop is crap, it's one of the slowest grows I've seen but obviously you know what you're talking about.....NOT
I studied botany at uni and I've worked in horticulture for 15 years, not to mention 15 years of indoor growing.... but you know best. I suppose growing a plant for 24 weeks before you bud is pretty quick, if you're a glacier. Any other growers out there want to put your opinions in about increasing the lumens? Let's see....
@69zebedee You must feel pretty dumb about now. considering Lumens if you ask a SCIENTIST is a measuremtn for the human ey otherwise i would be using car lights ok you got it now>? huh? Do you lumen boy?
@StartswithASeed Lol, where did you get that info from? Lumens are for the human eye? I suppose kilometers only applies to cars and litres only applies to milk as well. Gallons is only for gas, we all know it's impossible to get a gallon of anything else. And if you walk a long way it's measured in.... let me guess, feet? lol. Lumens is a standard measurement for light intensity, as meters is for distance and litres for volume. It has nothing to do with the human eye other than eyes see light.
@StartswithASeed Please look this up somewhere that has credibility so you can believe what they say. You are making a fool of yourself big time. Your plants are already the laughing stock of grow vids on youtube and now your refusal to believe what you are being told about light intensity is just making you look Stupid with a capital S. I am trying to help you, there is no other reason for me to talk with you. I'm not making money or pushing some crazy religion. Just trying to help you grow...
@69zebedee Did you forget your the guy who said luemns mean everything Dude stop playing with words you were wrong and more than likly have seen the evidence that shows that using Lumens as measurement for Plant growth is not a valid system Thank you good day anymore bullshit out fo you Banned/ Thanks JohnnySeed had enuf of your harassment shit.
Hey mate. Takes me back to when I first grew under lights.... You can and will do a whole lot better with time and experience. First major improvement you can make is to crank up the lumens big time. Get rid of the CFL's, they're only good for early growth and that's when they are hanging down only 6 inches above the plants. They just don't give out enough lumens. In this setup you should be running at least 2 x 400W HPS lamps. 2 x 600W would be better. Growth would be so so so much faster...
@69zebedee That dosent make any sense, I grew each plant with 1 26watt cfl each on average there was only one bulb per plant. That is it. You dont get the size of these plants now do you/?
@StartswithASeed And what was your harvest? I run a setup with 2000W of HPS in an area of approximately 25 square feet and average about 900-1100 grams per month. Not per 24 weeks or however long your crop takes. Tell me, what did you harvest? It looks like you'd be lucky to get 20 grams off the whole plant
@69zebedee lets not forget Lumens are for the HUMAN SEEING EYEBALL! thats it! enuf you stupid spreaders of misinformation! geeezz/. any case its only like 3600 lumens per bulb i think maybe 4600 lol so taht dosent mean squat! Lumens do not apply to plants ok so tell who ever told you that too. ;) good day!
@StartswithASeed I use approximately 320,000 lumens for 12 plants. At the size your 24 week old plants are, mine are about 3-4 weeks old. The funny thing is you are calling me stupid and then saying "lumens do not apply to plants"... lol. Have you ever heard of photosynthesis? It is the process by which plants convert light into growth. Light is measured in lumens. Do some research...And by that I don't mean ask some dumb fucker pot head for their opinion. I am trying to help you here mate
Great song (Roulette-System of a Down) and nice video..I hate the personal attacks people are dishing out towards you and your videos..I thought ganja tokers supposed to band together..anywho, my plant is just starting to flower and its outside..thats what brought me to your video
@AllForTheGame I agree im growing with cfls also, but my cuzin has a 400w hps and I can see the differents, tight heavy dense buds, make a differents, I just cant afford over $300 dollars and the space for the heat.....wish I did, but for right now cfl, during fine.
How was da harvest and was it high grade from cfls great vids hope to see more
MrMarijuano3 2 months ago
always worth it at the end. :D
pangetmo2323 2 months ago
I have 2 125 watt hydrofarm grow lights 8,500 lumens a piece with hood 69.00$ free shipping from amazon and 2 65 watt cfls for lower branch coveragei got a inline duct fan 22.00$ with free shipping off amazon 500 cfm of fresh air a minute 10 gallon grow bags 9.00$ for 10 pack and fox farm ocean forest potting soil 50 pound bag 25.00$ fox farm grow big, big bloom, and tiger bloom and mylar for reflective properties and my trees are growing fast get your supplys off amazon free shipping over 25
MrCody674 3 months ago
System of a down, hell yeah man. Great plants and setup too bro. Keep it up man.
4BEREAL 1 year ago
yo bro good vids, im like a 3 day ago beginer grower lmfao with L's, i have not one lamp or equipment like you for indoors, outdoors is where im at, but it just sprouted from the ground, so HELP ME OUT!! what can i do to have a successful growth with out killing one of gods greatest creatoins. thanks
locedouttaggers 1 year ago
not enough lit
Jedidiahnight 1 year ago
growing is easy good soil and light and PH is good my mates grow with out nutrients and its just as good. out door but
mulluway 1 year ago
what nutrients do i need
reinstadler1 1 year ago
dang 24 weeks id be pissed cause there taking so long thats twice the estimated grow time for sativa
cobraopts7 1 year ago
@cobraopts7 i was waiting on some cash for flower room equipment that didnt make in time ended up moving and cut them down was trying to just let em go long as possible under those cfls.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
umm i think your prob might be chemical wise as to that i watched this one guys that only happened on these certain plants that he was mixing non compatable chemicals together, well if you didnt figure out the problem, give it more light and room to grow.
metallicozz 1 year ago
@metallicozz Iam sure your talking about the nutrient levels or the PH
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
my guess is your female started producing seeds because of too much stress due either to aggressive bending or a combination of light spectrum, nutrients, bending, etc. I'm not saying bending is bad, just that i've seen it cause too much stress if done too aggressively.
i wasn't able to see, are you supplementing nutrients? I'm sure you know this stuff but figure i'd add my $0.02. =) I'm always happy to see another grower sharing and learning.
cheers. - J.
mygrowshow 1 year ago
@mygrowshow yeah i ran into same problem again, with a dominate indica where it produced male pods when i crop and bent the the bejesus out of it lol then i cut back everything but main branche and well since then stopped producing male flowers at that point. no more pollen sacs so it was stress lol in the second case not this vid. anywho thought id share that
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
hah it got aids D=
Malunat13 1 year ago
you need more light, and space. Plants love space, good lighting (timing is also important) and air circulation. You'll need good nutrients as well and take better care of it. You should read up more about indoor cannabis growing there is plenty of info out there. Peace
WestCoastIrk 1 year ago
@WestCoastIrk lol I honestly dont think it would have gotten far at all without knowing alittle about what your suggesting. Peace and wellness
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed of coarse, im sure you know basics. It's the combination of these things and detail which really matters... Which is also really the beauty of it. All i can say is practice makes perfect :)
WestCoastIrk 1 year ago
whats with all the aggressive comments, you have the whole concept of growing weed twisted, just enjoy it and chill out. if you dont agree with some of the advise then dont take it. anyway, nice lookin plants man, wud have liked to have seen fully formed buds coz judging by the plants id say they were impressive. check out my vid i just harvested 2 northern lights under cfl's, let me know what you yhink
jabber818 1 year ago
@jabber818 AGressive? me? lmao i just letting them know where they stand. Of course they need a good comment back. example.TheEgoShredder
2 weeks ago buddy if you buy a real light you'll get some real weed not just dead hairs lol faggot!
Yep so tahts a good one in the mail box very positive. LMAO anywho thanks for comment and yes flowering would have been just amazing/ would have been just enourmous. seeing as cannabis plants seem usually get about 2 to 3 times as large in shoot lengths.FLWR
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
It seems the only way to get huge buds is to let i veg for like 16-20 weeks
420chronmasta 1 year ago
@420chronmasta lol its not flowering and it never did.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed i ment with my plants hehe i didnt get verymuch when i didnt veg very long :) but it varies
420chronmasta 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed You need more light.
jdrury 1 year ago
Nice grow really beautiful work, I live in Summit County and am growing my first plant (AK-48) from a clone with all CFL. I tried LST at the 30 day mark for one week then released the branches and saw explosive growth over the next three weeks. Today is around two months, I thinned my plant down a bit to let more light in and did LST on all branches. I plan on growing in veg till maybe thanksgiving and then switching her over along with a 4 ft big foot momma my dispensary has.
MrChristabb 1 year ago
well my man ,,, its nothin to do wi da lites ....
its da genetics ov da plant,,, just like wht can happen to everything,,,, its handicap't....
da plant will either grow into wht its ment to eventually,,
or its gona keep twist n growing dat way ,, nothin u can do pal,, genetics
UNZI1000 1 year ago
buddy if you buy a real light you'll get some real weed not just dead hairs lol faggot!
TheEgoShredder 1 year ago
@TheEgoShredder First those are preflowers on the one plant, and second they are both under a 18 hours of light a day. Thats Veg so no theer should not be freaking buds on them i certainly hope not ;) As for faggot remark please dont project your problems into my channel we are talking about Hemp / Cannabis/.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed I dont need growing tips from some little bitch who isn't even doing a good job, you little inbred nigger faggot.
TheEgoShredder 1 year ago
@TheEgoShredder Oh damn i guess its not only gay issues you have maybe homofobic and now its getting racial oh my You must talk to someone about your in depth problems with others and how that affects you. But seriously heres my come back for you! POST you plants even if its a tomatoe lets see YOUR GREEN DUMB!
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed ur a fuckn retard, gay and homophobic issues are the same thing, as for ur little cock sucking request for me to post pics of my plants lol I dont encriminate myself on the internet u bitch. My hatred towards fags like you has no effect on me either u nigger LOL i hope you have a good time smokin ur crop of hairs
TheEgoShredder 1 year ago
@TheEgoShredder Actually i had commented your gay posting bash for the second time . used the word for what seems to be your Dis,. lol Then you got racial . So saying the same thing is not what was intended i had pointed out to different variations of hate. Anywho unless you got some actual Video posts with somekind of plant growing maybe show some pics and tips just Please Get freaking bent. nJohnnySeed.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed hahaha , lol Green dumb
chriserz94 1 year ago
@TheEgoShredder I bet my one plant that i got a halfquarter from which i grew in a cardboard box is much better quality smoke then you could ever grow :D
chriserz94 1 year ago
Nice CFL Grow.
xrayfeeney 1 year ago
startswithaseed na i dnt hate led or cfl,s,my m8s got a 3 long tube light wid little led lights on it wot he put on him self an its a pure light,i wudint mind usein led or even cfl,s ONLY 4 veg tho,cuz ye can keep the bulbs alot closer 2 d plant even let the plant grow in to it ,keepin dem small bushy an stoky but wen ad flower ad av 2 use me 600 sodium
rockferrydawson 1 year ago
weres d lv boys
rockferrydawson 1 year ago
haha use r funny man lol wot av i starded haha, am lost i dont even no wot flawed means ha,av heard about green lights bein usefull dats it
rockferrydawson 1 year ago
@rockferrydawson LOL sorry hopefully you understand that if LUMENS has all colors including the ones taht are not useful then its rating is irrelevant meaning. that a lumen rating has incorporated the non-useful light for photosynthesis. lol There fore makes it NOT ideal for using in terms of growth realtions and lighting lumen rating. Correct me if iam wrong there . ;) I know you hate LED but sure you can agree that this is science not some magic.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@duboisiboy LMAO there is no relation between lumens and growth. Iam pretty sure then you are saying we can grow with green light bulbs then? Since Lumens can refer to this color? Flaw3ed ok just let it go dude and stop posting this crap with out looking and doing a search ;)
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
I know how I feel around her...lol
coffin13 1 year ago
duboiusboy nice 1 m8 a thought me 600 was better,check my vids out m8
rockferrydawson 1 year ago
so wot ye sayin is giv it at least a week veg wen rooted ye.an av got every size pot ,so jus separate dem,an not botherd if i only get a 20 bag a plant,its just d underneath of me scrog a tuk away
rockferrydawson 1 year ago
@rockferrydawson Thanks but i think you made it alot more complicated theer for him to understand what i was relaying .
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
mines a 600 sodium an it dus let off loads of heat its a pain in the arse,a was wonderin av just took a bout 5 cuttins off my plant as soon as thay have rooted am just gona put them straight into flower with my 2 big plants BUT cud i just pot them all togther in 1 pot??am only doin it f a little experiment, any advice seed m8
rockferrydawson 1 year ago
@rockferrydawson Rooting cutting will ahve the same properties as the plant they were takin from. Mature plant mature Clones. Only deal is the root system needs a little establishment befor flower to get anything remotly useful in the way of fruits. Invidulay pot them its very cheap maybe 40cent a pot, We be alot easier to move plant as they finsh and as they need to be moved to use light Invidualy pot id say just easier that way. lol and 1 plant maybe just stunt the rest if you plant together,.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
thanks seed,its a 600 sodium av got an d heat off it is unreal i ad trouble wid heat on me last crop,but am gna flower frew d nite instead of the day,a posted a new vid the otherday av a little luk its cannabis plants eminem,quality abit poor tho,shitty nokia n85 lol
rockferrydawson 1 year ago
do use all use cfl,s becuz u crnt get hold of a 600 watt or cuz thay r better?av got a 600 but do u get more lumens off cfls??
rockferrydawson 1 year ago
Lumens count is for Human visibility only, becasue the fact that Green is part of that visible spectrum and dosent amount to much of anything for photosysnthesis. But yes a 600watt bulb would be fine for indoor gardening. Produces alot of heat from balast and light. but dont forget a 600watt bulb eats alot more than just 600watts. lol effecient ballast is good idea if your going that route. So i dont know what to yes about the lumens. But sure HID é Hps or MH should be a valid source of light.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed You're unbelievable mate. Giving out advice like you're an expert when you haven't even grown a single nice bud. You remind me of a first year medical student who has learnt a hell of a lot in his first year but is in no way qualified who still thinks he knows enough to practice. Would you go to him if you were sick? Oh well, if people are dumb enough to listen to your advice I guess it's their problem. Have a look at '8 week S.AG.E. grow in 4 minutes' That guy knows his stuff.
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy What are you refering to? If your just some Lumens guy just get lost you fail/. Dont need to be an expert on anything to know that lumens is a flawed system.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@rockferrydawson You get sweet fuck all lumens off a CFL. A 130W CFL produces about 10,000 lumens whereas a 600W HPS produces about 90,000. If you do the calculations you'll realise that to match the HPS you'd need twice the wattage in CFL's. What's the point if you need 9 x 130W CFL's to get the equivalent of 1 600W HPS? CFL's are for fools and pretenders
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy LUMEN is falwed system for light and plant relations.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed Hey people, did you read that? LUMEN is a flawed system for light and plant relations. Did you finish high school Johnny?
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy Yes your heard hat right becasuer the fact that visible light soectrum for human eye contains green and other like colors not usued in plant growth please explain how that dosent make it flawed/. Oh and yes Lumens is a measurement for huamn eye. lol dont post this shit. lumen boy!
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed You are right in saying that the green part of the spectrum is pretty useless when it comes to photosynthesis however you seem to forget that when you increase the intensity of white light you are not only increasing the green part of it but all the other parts as well. Why is it that grow shops don't stock or recommend 23W cfl's? They are not bright enough. Why do they give a figure for the lumen output of different grow lights? Because it matters.
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy. Iam stating fact not some theory of some bullshit from you/. Simply using the lumens in realtion with plant growth has majoir flaws. Simply the fact that Lumens is the measuremant for vusuble light for human eye and in that spectrum there some colors that have very little to possible no effect on plant growth .little more reasearch befor snapping back at me so quickly. Also in lumens i believ that its dosent include UV or IR light. that is somewhat important to growth aswell.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed Ok Johnny, believe what you like. Ignore the word lumen and instead think about light intensity. If you up the intensity you increase the growth, simple. Mate, I do know what I am talking about. I don't know why you can't get your head around the light intensity issue, it seems so obvious to me. If it weren't important they wouldn't make high powered lights and everyone would be using 23W CFL's
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy That enuf of your harassment. We were talking about lumens and the flaw it has in its realtion to growth, dont try and spin the subject for what the 10th time ? You cant grow a plant with a green bulb, and taht green bulb has lumens to! ok so no matter how many green light bulbs you will not grow what say a blue and red light on its own could do with low lumens. Please you dont know squat about ..hmmm i thinking possibly anything. Peace and wellness.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@duboisiboy Dude serioulsy iam not into fucking playing head games you are wrong its has no relation becasue of that flaw thank you! good day sir,.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
How many cfl's do you use and whats is the wattage per bulb? i am trying something similar
jdips090 1 year ago
@jdips090 The full spectrum bulbs are helical 26watt ge bulbs rated at 6500kelvin temp and the larger one in the middle hanging without a dome on it is 42watt i believ at 4100k But those full psectrums GE`s from that company i have had running for almost 12 months. They last about 6 months but i have a few at 12. lol Dont buy no name bulbs you will not be happy with how long they last and end up just being a flickering light lolé. Iam sure same goes for HID.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed thanks for the feedback i just bought a few 42 watts and 55 watts, i also have some 26's layin around. but i havnt started the operation yet but id like to keep in toudh, thanks
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jdips090 1 year ago
NICE GRADEN. DONT LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO TALK ALL THE SHIT.
CFL'S ARE GOOD IF YOU COMBINE SPECTRUMS,.AND USE MULTIPLE WATTAGES
THERE IS A SPECIAL METHOD TO USING THEM EFFICIENTLY.
ANYWAY. KEEP EM HEALTHY, THATS ALL THAT MATTERS.
HOW YOU DO IT IS YOUR THING,AND THERE ISNT ANY WRONG IN THAT. SINC,JAY PEACE
danocean111213 1 year ago
@danocean111213 Thanks SINC JAY. I dont get all this misonformation myself lol ist about spectrum and well sure could have used more lights but iam showing what an average very low watt grow can acomplish for anyone looking to get into the hobbie for cheap start to see if it sparks interest. Peace wellness. I like it more and more each day and hopefully one day will have rain over all my food i consume. Which i mean grow it lol I can wish lol.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed i understand you. i grow low wattage as well, but in miniature bonsai style.all im saying is mixing blues and reds can produce some crazy crops in terms of quality.
danocean111213 1 year ago
@danocean111213 Hints the word spectrum lol i basically was agreein lol iam sure you just missed that lol happen to me alot miss a little tib bit changes what was said anywho hell yeah all about the spectrum, interesting i have heard that reasoning for reds being more dominaint could have something to do with evolution and where the plants more than likly came from that blue penetrates less than red into water theory went like thta somewhat> plants evolved from the water and moved to land? lol
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed maybe.its possible yes.evolution is unstoppable,maybe in a a decade one could graft fruit and cannabis. eat some blueberries and get completely stoned. something like 30% thc per berry would be nice.or some wacky strawberries.but as far as spectrum goes. idealy having all the colors of the rainbow inyour growing area,would be perfect. but not the light bill. lol
danocean111213 1 year ago
@danocean111213 Trichomes only forms on the outsdide of the plant and comes usually around nodes or gland areas i have heard them refered to. I dontz ever think it will be inside a fruit. There is obvisouly a reason for cannabis and evolution either A be carried it around becasue its many uses allowing it to strive and evolve without much interferance and well Its succeede i guess becasue of all its properties Like alot of resistance to bug and dieseas and well its medical properties for mammals
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@danocean111213 Stupid failure prohibiti
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
cfl suck
novalution86 1 year ago
@novalution86 Thye do maybe i should pimp them out then. You comparing them to what ? the best known lights for growing of course otherwise just shut it lmao/.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed- Compaired to a hps they suck. Buy a real light...
novalution86 1 year ago
@novalution86 Its a real light/ Thanks.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
DROOL
emitman85 1 year ago
dats 1 big plant how long u veg da 4 av a luk at my little lst plants,CANNABIS LST SGROG,an thats not a gud fing da seed,probly heat stress turnin plant hermie it happend 2 my amnesia lemons cumin up 2 the end of my flower
rockferrydawson 1 year ago
@rockferrydawson Naw dude its wqasnt hermie i had cloned and flowered with no signs of male parts. for each. Unfortunatly i will never know for a full flower peroid could happen further into it. Also harsh growth nutes at early stages of growth Seedling can make hermie from whjat i have read to Lots of things but no hermie here. had chopped down and all ties with any of this strain is gone now lol Peace and wellnes.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
LMAO... Hey, where do you get those 23W cfl's from? I've looked in 3 different hydro shops and none of them stock them. The smallest light they have is a 250W cfl and the guy said I'd need about 4 of them just for starters...
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy Its could be 26watt aswell the Brand i bought was form a hardware store or even walmart will do if they carry GE bulobs get the daylight 6500 k bulb runnign usuage of i believ 26watt hydroshop wants started 20$ for there ther are like 3 for 11$ or so i believe maybe 2 for 11$ cheap anywho. good for perking up and simple veg.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed Sorry my friend, I was being sarcastic. The only way I'd ever use a 26W cfl is if I had like 50 of them in a 2 foot square cupboard. They are way way way too weak to grow bud. If you want a low heat, low energy solution you should look at the LED UFO arrays and even they are pretty ordinary. Just bite the bullet and get a 400W HPS. A real light which will grow real bud
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy Well did you see the clone in flower under one? Its not to bad. Was looking at LED for a long time. A hps in not in budget to keep up with. Alot more than just a light bulb. Easier said than done. And real bud wtf is REAL bud iam sure its all real as long as it works and well no additives ;) The sunshine systems LEDS look prmising but shit anyone can render opions online i want proof has what it will provide. I seen vids with leafs that had damdage from an HID light CLaimin Led. lOL
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed A 400W HPS will cost you less than an ounce of bud and grow you 20 times as much bud as your CFL. Once you have one you'll know what a real bud is
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy Ok i just stated taht theree is alot more into play with HID lighting light ventilation 200$ for a fan then ducting 25$ maybe a grow tent for controlled environment 300$ and a ballast maybe 300$ a good bulb 75$. i can go on light reflector. 50$. Now teher is a fire hazard so the ballast are now outside the tent. And if i need cooling system now that even more. Its makes the whole thing very expensive done right. Untill i have a good 1300$. Oh and carbon filters 100-$ and up.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed Yes, very true, to do everything properly is an expensive proposition. It does require that sort of money for starters if you want to set it all up in one go. You can start bit by bit and as your yields improve you can better fund your setup. For starters get yourself a 130W CFL, not sure what it'll cost where you are but here they're about US$95 including the reflector and globe. You wouldn't need to get anything else straight away. And it'll always be useful... to be continued
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy I understandf you canbuild up but i think your forgetting the point you add a HID light you need all that stuff right there with it to make it work effectivly Peace and Wellness. JohnnySeed
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed That's why I suggested starting with a more powerful CFL. Still not a great growlight but a lot better than your 26W globes that you have now. You will be able to use the CFL for clones once you have a HPS but in the mean time it'll get better results than the 26W.
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy I need less heat . My cab in running about 30. I want like 23. . But with the samll cab i have now I have ought to make the best of it. What do you think of LEDs? or t5? ?
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed Have a look at this vid "90w LED UFO Comparison 400w HPS" it seems to suggest that a LED array with the right wavelength will do ok for growth but I still don't think there'd be enough intensity fot decent bud. Don't be too worried about 30 degrees, that won't really bother the plants. Dilute your nutes a tad if you are worried. It's the extra light intensity that'll make the most difference. Have you thought about putting a computer fan in the top of your cab? That should help
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy Check my my video. "Grow Cabinet Progress pt.1 " I will have a more recent one soon. temps still at 30 average and still climbs. Puting in an intake Fan aswell to help take drag off the exhaust fan.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed Looking good, you're obviously putting some thought into it. Still the major issue is the lack of light. Have you thought about 'party lights'? Your local hardware or lighting store should stock all the fittings. This way you can add extra globes whenever you want. You could fix it to a light weight board and hang it so you can raise it as the plants grow. With say 10 globes lowered down to only a few inches above the plants, you will get faster growth.
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy Have you seen my cab? Vid
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed Yep, looking good. Keep making little improvements here and there and you'll be getting kickass results before too long. I've just switched from an aeroponic setup to coco fibre. I like the coco fibre so far, looks like a great medium but at this stage I only have seedlings in it. I guess I'll know in a few months. My cab is about 12' x 1 3/4' and I have 4 400W HPS's in it. Thinking of upgrading to 600W lights. I have a seperate grow space so the main room is constantly on 12/12
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy Post your shit and stop jabbering lmao Peace.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@duboisiboy Basically dont just type, show and share with us your results.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed I've never taken pics or vids, not looking to create any evidence that could be used against me. I know a guy who did time because of a pic he had on his phone..... I don't know the law there but here I prefer to be cautious
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy You live in the United states of America i gather ...the land of the free my ass/ Fuck all there violations against there own ppl
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed No, I'm on the other side of the planet my friend...
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed Also, don't worry about the temperature too much. It has to get pretty hot to hurt the plants. Think about it, Hawaii is the ultimate natural grow room right? It's a lot hotter than 23 degrees there most of the time. Ideally it would be lower but we can get away with conditions not being ideal. It's a pretty amazing weed we're dealing with right? Grows all over the world in all sorts of conditions. Light + CO2 + H2O + nutes = growth. Up the light to drive growth faster, simple
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy Temp does matter a great deal. Its causing nute lock out and drying soil/ The plant is focusing on Water not Food. When the temp is around 20 to 25 i can see the difference But yes they do adjust to enviroment, alot of plants do. Salvia divorium i beoiev its spelt can change environment to house plant over time. Not all in one shot but gradually. causing less ahock. But changes growth speed and all kinds of things lol/.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed Sun light contains green light in its spectrum too. You'll notice that areas that get a lot of sun have more plants growing in them than areas that are permanently shaded. You should also realise that the sun gives off the same spectrum year round, it's just the intensity and day length that varies throughout the year. All plants have evolved under the sun, not specific spectrum grow lights.
Just think about it mate, honestly I'm not trying to give you false information...
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy lol Thats so funny your agreeing that green light has nothing to do with it. Its the intensity of the others colors in the spectrum. Unless you are saying you know a plant that can grow off green light then? LMAO do you i want to see it .is it blue ?
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed That doesn't even make sense Johnny.
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy total sense taht lumens contains green and green dosent grow the palnts on the planet. Hmm and green is part of the spectrum scale of lumens which is based of visible light for the human seeing eye. lol It makes sence. Do i need to explain it any further or should i just complie a good video post of info and you can refer to that ;) ?
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed Light intensity (lumens) and light spectrum are two seperate things. Sunlight is what plants use to grow in nature, yes? Do we agree on that?
Sunlight contains green in its spectrum. It also contains all the other colours including ultraviolet and infrared. If the sunlight is more intense (like in the tropics) there is more lush plant growth. Even though it has green in its spectrum. It is the intensity of the other colours in its spectrum that causes the better growth.
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy How thanks for taking what i just said and posting it back up and correcting me again, that you cannot grow something on lumens as a scale of relation to growth of our plant life. Becasue if you used that scale you could get a reading from a green light and even if it had 50,000 lumens or whatever you want lol it wouldnt grow anything at all are you getting in your head yet that green dosent grow and green is part of our suns spectrum but that dosent mean it grows plants lmao.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed I'm worried about you Johnny. You don't seem to be able to grasp what I was saying.
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy Iam done with your shit. you know exactaly why you cant post heer anymore. Didnt think there were ppl that could defy science. Shit i guess you must believ that the world is only a feww thousand years old and Jesus can walk on water to right? But shit you know we dont need to prove just a million or so ppl just need to believe it to make it true sorry but in your case thats why Humans will fail this world beacsue simple minds cant grasp simple concept or so i thought /.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed
That, not taht. Sense not sence. You two are fighting
and taht dont make sence!!
What happened to the peace and just trying to make the best weed?
xrayfeeney 1 year ago
@xrayfeeney
BTW: Green light is useless for plants!!
xrayfeeney 1 year ago
@xrayfeeney Naw man no point letting him spread misinformation/ unless you think hes right and have a real answer for me lol, Yes Peace and Wellness is the way/ Peace and wellness JohnnySeed. Tganks Xray for the posting ;) ,
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@xrayfeeney who the fuck are you the voice of reason? I bet you like takin it up the ass i bet u like blowin little boys your a prick id like to suck out ur eyeballs and skull fuck you
selfesteemdestroyer 1 year ago
@selfesteemdestroyer ?? LMAO What are you talking about?
Voice of reason?? Your a joke kid. Go smoke some weed & chill.
xrayfeeney 1 year ago
@xrayfeeney i got toasters for hands
selfesteemdestroyer 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed Then when you can afford it get a cheap exhaust fan, some ducting and a roll of tape. Next would be to get another light then to improve the exhaust. Bit by bit your setup will get better and better until you've got a kickass system going. Each step can just be done when you can afford it be that every 6 weeks or every 6 months but bit by bit you'll get there. That way you never need to come up with much more than $100 or so to step it up a bit. Each step is achievable...
duboisiboy 1 year ago
love the tunes, love the grow
Keep it real
fukincunts 1 year ago
@fukincunts Thanks, fuckincunts/ I cant satnd the old comments you grow looks like shit. When i grew them with like 5$ of lectricity a onlt on like 4$ lights lmao funny as hell. I dont think anyone has ever heard of mothers either.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
that plant looks like straight up crap.. ur not getting enough light and u need more light and then ventilation to get rid of the heat... view my video if u want... over a week later since i made the video . my buds are getting bigger and look good... u look like uve got the smallest buds ever on that vegged up plant bro... u got some work to do
partyongarth420 1 year ago
@partyongarth420 STraight up crap, lmao. There are no buds lmao its still 18 hour lighting. LOL Some judgement call you got there buddy. THta i got work to do. LMAO These are VEGGIN! can you see? HEAT? Its a tall closet. with ventalition to the outside. Heat to from outdoors/ to expensive to run cooling equipemnt and then just vent it outside . I know wtf is going on. you dont. HATER
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
me gusta este video, lo has montado muy bien, pero lo importante es la esencia de una buena cogollacion
xeskurion 1 year ago
Where can I learn to grow?
Reeseguy45 1 year ago
@Reeseguy45 Not here man, this guy has no idea what he's talking about. Look up oregonKUSH's videos. He grows some sweet sweet bud ;D
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@duboisiboy You obvisouly dont get why most ppl post do you . I post it weather its fail or not. It all can be l;earned from. I dont care. Its dosent mean i dont knwo what iam talking about lmao
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed Cool man, no probs chill out. Just that I've noticed that in all your vids there aint a single nice bud. Why would someone want to learn from you? They should learn from people who grow good bud. You should learn from people who grow good bud. Good luck man, peace
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@Reeseguy45 I Learnt by watched a bunch of different grows on youtube taht were in my price range and situation. and see what things went wrong and what things help Ill start by saying at around 30+ temp is not allowing them to eat at all just dries out then i have to water but 25 and under i get some noticable growth. I have little control over alot of these factors making things at times very very slow . Just dont look at one vid and say ok tahts it.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@Reeseguy45 Alot of things come into factor growth rate. Spectrum or kelvin rating of bulb. Dose it have what is needed for plant growth The color spectrum. The temperatures. Airflow (co2) Nutes and size of plant will change nute schedules accordingly. Ph lvls. All kinds of things. lol I am sure there is more taht can be mentioned like pest controling having cl;ean room Filters timers Pumps... I can help direct you i started these as my first plant ever grown. For first ever i think its alright.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@Reeseguy45 Hope taht can start you off a little. Peace and Wellness Johnny
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@Reeseguy45 lmao, like I said this guy aint the guy to get advice from. The light intensity is far more important than the spectrum. You'll notice that all the vids where there's some pretty dank bud growing have powerful lights, all the rest is just fine tuning
duboisiboy 1 year ago
@69zebedee this plant being just over 2 x 2 feet and having close to 14 top bud sites and each branche being about 2 feet long each.(thats about 12 or 14 branches at 2 feet) One bulb at only 1600Lumen at 26watt and 65ook. grew thhose. Fuck you taht i dont know shit Just get lost Lumen boy.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed Dude, believe what you want to believe. As a grower who gets results as good as anyone out there I was just trying to help you do better. Your plants are pathetic, they are incredibly slow growing and the buds you show on the other vid are wispy crap. It makes no difference to me what you do but if you listened to not just me but every other grower who has made similar comments you would get much better results.
69zebedee 1 year ago
@69zebedee The issue is not the lights man . You dont know the details of the environment and you can barly grasy the concept of photosynthesis see as you believ lumen scale is a system in which should be used for growing. Such fool you are/. Just leave ok. Lets see your vids.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed Photosynthesis n. process by which the energy of sunlight [PHOTO] is trapped by the chlorophyll of green plants and used to build up complex materials from carbon dioxide and water. [SYNTHESIS] Ok, that's a basic definition of photosynthesis, do we agree on this? If so then logically it follows that if there is more energy there will be more complex materials being built (more plant growth) So if the light intensity (energy aka lumens) is increased the growth also increases.
69zebedee 1 year ago
@69zebedee No. Not true . Lumens system is flawed just stop posting thsi shit trying to make it fit your answer. Lumens if you ask any reputatble hydroponics store they will tell you it dosent really matter to much . and that its flawed in the fact that green light is part of visible light which is the flaw becasue its not used in phohtsysnthesis. You can quote what ever you want but with the whole story you just regergitating shit from forums.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed Ok, I'll make a vid for you. I'll start with a punnet of strawberry seedlings and put 2 of them under 2 x 15W 2.7k CFLs and another 2 under an old Son-T-Agro 400W HPS (also 2.7k). I'll grow all the seedlings under the exact same conditions except for the lights. Same medium (coco fibre), same pots, same nutrients and even the same cupboard with a divider to keep the lights separate. The only difference will be the light source for the plants. Does this sound like a fair test?
69zebedee 1 year ago
@69zebedee 2.7k bulb is not what iam using and will fail horribly in veg for almost any plant. using same medium and what not is also flawed testing seeing as IR lvls are highier and alot for radiant heat can change intake of nutes and effect growth speed. etc. You are just one lost person when it comes to the complexity of growing and nature. change one thing have to cahnge it all to fit. Just gte lost your banned you havent made a logical argument and just bombarb my channel with nonsenae.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
You have got a problem buddy you are a moron.
BUDMASTER2009 1 year ago
lolz dude you need more lights 69 noes what his takling about
oska42 1 year ago
@oska42 That is not the point. hes dosent know. Hell yeah i know what lights i want but i cannot afford them but i know that these bulbs have the spectrum for Phohtsysthensis to occur. And lumens dont matter for growing becasue they have green light involved in human eye vissible light which all dosent affect growing there for its unreasonable to use3 that method of measurement for growing Lumens are not thwe way to measure the quality of light. Dont listen to him.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed look we know (lumens) is a measurement perceived by the human eye but it's still a measurement of * light intensity * none the less. Okay, so lumens themselves technically don't make our plant "grow " but they still do provide us with a measurement of light intensity so we can achieve optimal light efficiency. So all 69zebedee is trying to say is add more light intensity(lumens) to achieve faster and larger yields, but surely you knew what he meant. Whats wrong with that?
Bezzzzo 1 year ago
@Bezzzzo That would not acheiev optimal results for growing becasue of the green spectrum. dude its flawed. I suppose tho If you know anything and incorporated the Kelvin rating with the type of production plant then one could use it to see the inetesity of teh over all light But lumens beside the fact means nothing. Of course i know taht more of the intesity of the spectrum iam using would be helpful but i have demonstrated results with about 2000luemsn a plant they grew without fancy equip.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@Bezzzzo I know what i know. But hes arguing withme and constantly posted iam an idoit becasue i wont except his flawed view of Lumens and plant growth. I dont need to hear this lumens shit. A green bulb has luemns to but it wont grow Just dude its flwed for plants and using as a refernce.Thanks for your input but seriously ppl need to read and stop going on myths and misinformation. Peace and Wellness
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed Hope you're not confusing kelvin rating(Spectrum) of the bulb with lumens?? i mean you can buy HIDs in 6.4k and 2.7k..ect.ect that have a much higher lumen output with the same spectrum as your 23watt cfls. It's the same light spectrum but stronger, you know this yeah? I mean a 400w MH(6.4k veg) and 400w HPS(2.7k flower) will whoop that absolute dickhole off of a 23w(6.4k cfl veg) and 23w(2.7k cfl flower) because it has a much higher itensity. HID = High "intensity" discharge
Bezzzzo 1 year ago
@Bezzzzo Iam not cinfusing shit do i need to explain one more time tahvluemens measure the light visible by the human eye/ Which means green is in theer and that dosent count . My bulb has large spikes higher in the range of nm inthe unsauble light then in usable nm which means i was probibly using even less light then the bulb provides less than 1600 lumen, Please just read photosysnthesi and studeis done ok. between400-495nm 625-680nm is the range of which most plants become active for growth
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
Ok mate, if you're not interested in help here why ask? Your crop is crap, it's one of the slowest grows I've seen but obviously you know what you're talking about.....NOT
I studied botany at uni and I've worked in horticulture for 15 years, not to mention 15 years of indoor growing.... but you know best. I suppose growing a plant for 24 weeks before you bud is pretty quick, if you're a glacier. Any other growers out there want to put your opinions in about increasing the lumens? Let's see....
69zebedee 1 year ago
@69zebedee You must feel pretty dumb about now. considering Lumens if you ask a SCIENTIST is a measuremtn for the human ey otherwise i would be using car lights ok you got it now>? huh? Do you lumen boy?
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed Lol, where did you get that info from? Lumens are for the human eye? I suppose kilometers only applies to cars and litres only applies to milk as well. Gallons is only for gas, we all know it's impossible to get a gallon of anything else. And if you walk a long way it's measured in.... let me guess, feet? lol. Lumens is a standard measurement for light intensity, as meters is for distance and litres for volume. It has nothing to do with the human eye other than eyes see light.
69zebedee 1 year ago
@69zebedee Lumens is based on human eye. Got it yet?
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@69zebedee YOU didnt go to school for that becasue you wouldnt be saying Lumen anything.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed Please look this up somewhere that has credibility so you can believe what they say. You are making a fool of yourself big time. Your plants are already the laughing stock of grow vids on youtube and now your refusal to believe what you are being told about light intensity is just making you look Stupid with a capital S. I am trying to help you, there is no other reason for me to talk with you. I'm not making money or pushing some crazy religion. Just trying to help you grow...
69zebedee 1 year ago
@69zebedee you are the one making a fool of yourself. i ahd enuf of your shit you like the first mother fucker who said theer is a god.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@69zebedee Did you forget your the guy who said luemns mean everything Dude stop playing with words you were wrong and more than likly have seen the evidence that shows that using Lumens as measurement for Plant growth is not a valid system Thank you good day anymore bullshit out fo you Banned/ Thanks JohnnySeed had enuf of your harassment shit.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@69zebedee I think this dude thinks if you up the lumens you change the spectrum!!
Bezzzzo 1 year ago
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69zebedee 1 year ago
@Bezzzzo Dont project your thought onto me.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
Hey mate. Takes me back to when I first grew under lights.... You can and will do a whole lot better with time and experience. First major improvement you can make is to crank up the lumens big time. Get rid of the CFL's, they're only good for early growth and that's when they are hanging down only 6 inches above the plants. They just don't give out enough lumens. In this setup you should be running at least 2 x 400W HPS lamps. 2 x 600W would be better. Growth would be so so so much faster...
69zebedee 1 year ago
@69zebedee That dosent make any sense, I grew each plant with 1 26watt cfl each on average there was only one bulb per plant. That is it. You dont get the size of these plants now do you/?
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed And what was your harvest? I run a setup with 2000W of HPS in an area of approximately 25 square feet and average about 900-1100 grams per month. Not per 24 weeks or however long your crop takes. Tell me, what did you harvest? It looks like you'd be lucky to get 20 grams off the whole plant
69zebedee 1 year ago
@69zebedee lets not forget Lumens are for the HUMAN SEEING EYEBALL! thats it! enuf you stupid spreaders of misinformation! geeezz/. any case its only like 3600 lumens per bulb i think maybe 4600 lol so taht dosent mean squat! Lumens do not apply to plants ok so tell who ever told you that too. ;) good day!
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed I use approximately 320,000 lumens for 12 plants. At the size your 24 week old plants are, mine are about 3-4 weeks old. The funny thing is you are calling me stupid and then saying "lumens do not apply to plants"... lol. Have you ever heard of photosynthesis? It is the process by which plants convert light into growth. Light is measured in lumens. Do some research...And by that I don't mean ask some dumb fucker pot head for their opinion. I am trying to help you here mate
69zebedee 1 year ago
Great song (Roulette-System of a Down) and nice video..I hate the personal attacks people are dishing out towards you and your videos..I thought ganja tokers supposed to band together..anywho, my plant is just starting to flower and its outside..thats what brought me to your video
skiballer23 1 year ago
@skiballer23 Thanks, yeah just the hobbie itself is awesome.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
u can grow with cfls...im doing it right now with 10-23 watters.. but if u have the money get a hps.
AllForTheGame 1 year ago
@AllForTheGame I agree im growing with cfls also, but my cuzin has a 400w hps and I can see the differents, tight heavy dense buds, make a differents, I just cant afford over $300 dollars and the space for the heat.....wish I did, but for right now cfl, during fine.
like2thc 1 year ago