Optimus Prime CG Transformation Study B by Ben Procter

[OptimusNikola]

not bad.just fix the color

[NohhPutsuTV]

guys listen! IT WAS NOT MADE BY HIM, ASK HIM-/HERSELF!!

IT WAS MADE BY Ben Procter WHO MADE THE TRANSFORMERS FILM!!

[supergenius1994]

it was too fast

[yvaaar]

transforming animations are really hard to make! great job!

[SwitchLiveProduction]

what program was used?

[jacksaracrishagar]

well, the grill doesnt become the chest pieces below the windows, more like the pieces of truck right behind behind the grill the slide in

[arvinangeles2000]

nice, but te front rubber tire suddenly flies to the hips??? ... very nice animation. though. keep it up, is there another video you have?

[shinobirendar]

This wasn't made by me. It was made by Ben Procter who designed some of the bots from the film. This is an early test for the film of course.

[sonicblade9]

that wasent a tire that was the gold peice that conects to his knee joints.

[KiNG5333]

pretty cool, except the grill is supposed to be the first thing that transforms, It splits in 2, before anything else happens

5* though

[shinobirendar]

This wasn't made by me. It was made by Ben Procter who designed some of the bots from the film. This is an early test for the film of course.

[sonicblade9]

remember this isan't the final transformation used in the movie.

[KiNG5333]

yeah I know now, I went to Ben Procter's Website and found out

[superlemonhead19]

its just like the new ROTF Optimus Prime.

[Aumfreaky]

Cool

[Optimus136]

That's probably the most complex Optimus Prime transformation that I have seen. Congratulations!

[steamisM50]

reason why is cause he made the one for the movie! this is a work in progress on that one!

[funkhauser81]

nice, i made a much simpler transformer, and that drove me nuts

[sk8blitz]

it's nice smooth and every thing but it looks like all his peices were pulled to the top lol

[blowupneoblitZ]

thisis almost done like a reverse particle emmitter. More pieces stick to the upper torso then the lower torso etc.. and lastly they go back and fine tune that. Run it in reverse and you have a crazy looking but somewhat logical transformation. Trust me, there is alot of part cheating going on. They did not model every single tiny piece of the inside of that truck, and then have each piece break into other pieces. You overestimate if you think it's that miraclous.

[KneeCapHill]

of course they cheated on a few pieces but also did the animated series so it's not that bad

Plus in the movie you never see the inside of the camib so you can't be shure about if it's empty or not

[dandeentremont]

While there was a lot of cheating involved in transformers, every part was definitely modeled by a person and most of the pieces were animated by hand. Particle emitters would be far too much of a hassle an end up taking more time than hand keying.

[MrMashetty]

@blowupneoblitZ : particle emmiter ???..bull s***t

[blowupneoblitZ]

That's what this stage is, they fine tune where the wheels go, the windshield etc. And lastly, for the amazing little pieces, it's actually done with an algorithm to break up larger parts into smaller parts and one of the variables is "stickiness", how many little parts stick where...

[blowupneoblitZ]

the "guarded" secret of the transforming style they use is quite simple, in the firs run, they fold up a man-shaped robot into a "cool" looking way, as in having the arms unfold in front, or the legs transform from the back or middle or wherever looks best, then the next stage they stick large sections of the vehicle to the mannequin to see how they might pull apart into robot mode.

[krakelak]

you know whats wierd? in the movie, optimus has no wings, but the toy does.

[vincymon]

the back of the cab just seems too..disintegrate

[Bobzeaux]

Exactly. It takes a LOT of effort to see what goes where (which takes away part of the fun of seeing the TFs transform), but you can almost make out the center of the cab turning into the torso, the front of it turning into the arms, and the wheels and bottom of the truck turn into the legs. Where does the BACK of the cab go?

[vincymon]

apparently it just forms folds around his waist..which seems pretty pointless to me

[Xsubs]

if you look closely, i think the back piece of the cab transforms into the thighs, then the rear wheels attach to it.

[jameson63926]

you really realize how much they cheat with intersecting bodies when you see it raw like this.. its ok, im an animator, i cheat all the time

[Bobzeaux]

That's totally fine. At least you're ADMITTING it. :P

[jdpjrdude]

Awesome video!

[pivot656]

ok look at his arms hwen they come out in the back.... then they go through his body and appear again 5/5 stars!

[sonicblade9]

um hes arms are the front of the truck where the engine iss

[KremzeekRulz]

no the arms are at the back.

[Optimus136]

No no no no.

[psycholian]

that was cool

[guanqiaohang]

so messy in there

[sonicblade9]

it would be more realistic if it didnt transform all at once plus the wheels roll up and attach to octomuses thighs

[Ram123Ram112233]

Now thats cool

[Eythor20]

That couldnt have been done by you that same thing is in the Second disc of the movie

[shinobirendar]

Do you mean me? I never said it was made by me. It was made by Ben Procter one of the guys working on the film. Read the info. There's a link to his site.

[wakeupfist]

That is some pretty complex stuff

[cyborgtroy]

I was wondering how his wheels got way up there on his thighs....

[dudefromtheplace]

lol yeah

[4718253]

keep your eyes on the rear wheels as optimus' transforms.

[TransformerLover360]

double transformation...lol

[vincymon]

i think the knee has a t- joint,half stays up behind the cab and the other half is under the hood. a really long waist joint would then bring the bumper up to his waist. and the two halves of the leg would snap together.

There is a way to get this to work withou following the exact cgi steps. but its too long for 1 comment

[TheDarthChop]

Aw, this is the old design...

They changed this many times before the final render.

[smallsam52]

If this is possible, why cant they make a toy lke that?

[vincymon]

good quetion....maybe in the next twenty years we'll get a 20th anniversary movie edition

[4718253]

because it would be too complicated for children to transform. There will be too many moving bits that if you had a manual, you'll probably lose track of the transformation.

[Bobzeaux]

Because it's NOT possible. Did you see how many parts were simply floating through each other? These Transformers were designed to look overly cool, not real.

[4718253]

no, all these parts are joined. this is just one of the early animation where they're not paying close attention to the joints. This early process is when animatics are deciding where each car part should go in robot form.

[Bobzeaux]

They've already got that part figured out. They're just not caring about how it gets there.

What they should have done is make physical models of them that actually could transform like the toys, and THEN rebuild them in the computer.

[vincymon]

they probably didn't want it to look "like" a toy first like in some of the earlier series.

[Bobzeaux]

Maybe not, but they needed to make it look like a physically feasible robot. This looks like a mechanical version of Sandman, where every piece is somehow holding hands with every OTHER piece instead of a real TF which would twist and turn a specific series of parts to change from one form to another.

[Xsubs]

it would be impossible to make a toy version of this, unless it was a life size scale toy because there is just too many moving pieces for a little toy.Bear in mind that there are 10,108 moving parts as he transforms.

[vincymon]

actually, there is a way to do this..just not in as complicated a way as shown here.

I only wish hasbro had thought of it though.

[Bobzeaux]

That's what I've always thought too. They needed to make physical models first, then copy those into the computer. They'd make something far more practical and thus more realistic, and maybe Jazz would have been able to survive being torn in half since they would discover that his torso is made of two different pieces, which would NOT kill him of they were separated.

[Xsubs]

Come to think of it, they probably did make physical models, but they just haven't mentioned about it.

[Bobzeaux]

Something this needlessly intricate couldn't possibly have been based on something physical.

[Xsubs]

also these are just rough 3d transformation studies according to Ben Procter in his website. Therefore they obviously dont need to make models.

[4718253]

what do you mean 'floating'? this is just an animation showing where each piece goes.

[Bobzeaux]

I mean floating.

Look at Prime's legs. Nothing is attached to anything here. :S

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[4718253]

because its just a simple animation. its not even the final render.

[Bobzeaux]

It doesn't need to be the final render. The idea is to simulate something that is supposed to happen in the real world, but this animation is physically impossible even in the context of a scifi flick.

[psycholian]

not nessecarily, in the distant future things such as these could be made.

[guanqiaohang]

lol WHAT?

[psycholian]

i try to reply to someone and my message gets up here

[guanqiaohang]

sorry?.... o.O

[squirly]

cool

[basslinegenerator]

clip clip clip :) but anyways it shure took weeks to model, it looks very detailed ... it could be a study for the animators maybe ..

i agree on the transformations in the new movie ... it kinda looks cool but its glassclear that this could not be done in real world ... they should have made it more "classic" ... i mean that optimus prime is a joke ... thats not optimus prime :)

[Vikramthewhite]

Is this Maya ?

[CodenameLegacy]

That part with the legs seems impossible to do,plus I didn't really see that in the movie

[ermonski]

wow that was cool

[Hepathos]

They made the transformations to difficult. Basicly they just sliding the parrts anywhere they want.

[BlueMajesty94]

actually, the transformations were figured out by mathematical equations, so it worked right. if you look at the G1 transformations, they look really wierd, and those are the ones that don't really look right.

[Bobzeaux]

Stop motion videos made with actual Transformer toys looks more right than this.

[gabman6]

alot of clipping going on

[lpyyxw]

look at the foot, how could that be? the bottom half of the rear truck flips to the front and then recess back into the leg

[vincymon]

hm..no wonder they cudn't build an exact toy for it, that looks impossible

[sly42cooperbeast]

what cg program is this