Hello my friend, I live in Brazil, I have a car of Citroen Xsara 2.0 16v, wanted to put a hydrogen generator, how could you help me, since I have trouble buying some material, if you have a kit for sale how could sell, and what is included in the kit, awaiting the return, my email amauri12009@uol.com.br, Telephone: (24) 33421018, hugs, Amaury Correa da Fonseca. Sorry for the mistakes I used Google translator
So, if the IC engine converts 50% of the heat energy in the fuel in to mechanical work, and it takes work to run the alternator....The 360W needed to run the HHO generator, will require 720W worth of fuel. When you burn the Hydrogen in the engine, you will get back approximately 360W worth of energy, half of which becomes mechanical power. One thing is for sure, HHO generators are 100 bullsh¤¤. And, I have seen where some of the systems actually cause corrosion in the throttle body and intake.
@taztaz79 So from your experience it did not work and you blew your alternator?
I can guess accurately that you never tried this. You know some science and know that energy cannot be created or destroyed and so believe this is the only science relevant to this. You however believe the car makers when they say their new engine is more powerful and uses less fuel. Somehow you can believe the car makers can create energy from nothing.
@RavenPrecept The thing is that they are NOT creating energy from nothing. They are claiming increases in the efficiency of extracting energy from fuel. To claim that you can perform electrolysis to separate the hydrogen from water and then burn it for an energy profit is bogus. Just to break even would require 100% efficiency from your electrical generator, no resistance in your electrical conductors, no friction between engine parts, etc. Not going to happen.
@qawamity They don't claim to create free energy although some people using HHO do claim this. They claim that HHO makes the engine run more efficiently thus providing a fuel saving. However don't be so quick to claim that energy cannot be created or destroyed. It just probably not happening here.
@RavenPrecept Don't be so quick to say energy cannot be created or destroyed? Why, do you know something that proves one of the fundamental laws of the universe as we understand it untrue? And I really don't see how using energy from hydrocarbon fuel to separate hydrogen from oxygen is going to yield more energy than was put into the separation process.
People believe that there is no such thing as free energy. If so then why do people mine coal? That's not free energy but the energy you get out of the mine is more than you put in. It requires energy to make HHO but if it allows you to 'mine' extra energy from your fuel then it's worth it.
@RavenPrecept: Energy cannot be created or destroyed. It can be stored and released, but not created anew. With your perverted analogy involving a coal mine, there is no net decrease or increase of total energy in the system. The coal was already there, and the energy expended removing it from the ground is still kicking around as heat and other chemical byproducts.
@puckishphysio89 I think my analogy worked for you; "the energy was already there". When you make an engine run more efficiently you get more from your fuel than you did before. The only time when this is not possible (in a world where energy is not created or destroyed) is when the engine efficiency is already 100%.
@RavenPrecept: Didnt read your post properly. Unfortunately using kinetic energy to charge the battery is not 100% effective, nor is the electrolysis of water or the combustion of HHO. So using kinetic energy to make less current to make less gas to make slightly more combustion to make slightly more kinetic energy is a waste of time. If there is no additional energy input there will be less kinetic energy due to the energy lost during each change. Google laws of thermodynamics.
@puckishphysio89 I agree with that. However you are still missing the point I am making. If the HHO gas improves the combustion of the regular fuel it maybe worth the energy cost in creating the stuff. This can be checked by actually installing one of these, which you won't ever do whilst you can't imagine where the fuel savings could come from.
@RavenPrecept. I'm not missing the point. HHO will increase the efficiency of combustion, not questioning it. The method of production, however, is bogus. The energy lost by creating the HHO VIA AN ALTERNATOR must be less than the energy gained through more efficient combustion. Find out what each one is, think youll be surprised. "Maybe worth it" isnt something I'm going to shell out $500 for. As I've said before, there are far better ways of powering this.
@RavenPrecept Energy was put into creating the coal, but it wasn't put in by us. It was put in by once living things and by the forces of the environment (yes, it is called fossil fuel for a reason, it is made out of stuff that used to be alive).
@D0wnshift That would be a disaster!!! But the global warming wouldn't be a problem then, we would lower the water level lol. Any way I think when the gas burn it turns back to water.
@D0wnshift wow that's the stupidest comment i've ever read. When you leave the tap open, you are in fact wasting water, since that water has been treated in order to make it drinkable, it's true that it goes back into the environment, but it needs to be treated again before you can use it.
Whilst in this process you are just splitting water into it's components by adding some energy, when you actually use the hydrogen, part of the energy is recovered and water is formed once again.
@jkenigs You proved yourself wrong. Running the tap does not waste water, the treatment the water received is wasted. Fine by me.
When you make broad sweeping comments like "wow that's the stupidest comment i've ever read" you just show how stupid you really are. Unless of course you were raised in a basement with no windows and no interaction with people ever, and you just broke free and this web page is the 1st thing you have ever read.
@D0wnshift you are right, it might not be the stupidest, but it still ranks in the top 10 for sure! Just read your reply again. There's no mention whatsoever about you thinking that the water gets destroyed in the process, that is no doubt a really stupid thought. There's no harm done in reading a little bit before making such claims.
It takes way more energy to produce the hydrogen than the energy gained from its use. Also, they do not produce carburated engines anymore so the fuel injection system would not recognize the added hydrogen and continue to flow even more gas to compensate without alot of work to the ecm. Final result is, it dont work, it will not work from electricaly produced hydrogen from your alternator.
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don't waste your money! this device does not alter the amount of fuel injected so the car will use the same, not less. with a heavy load on the alternator it will use more fuel. these devices do nothing for fuel consumption. i feel sorry for people being conned. In the UK the wild claims would need to be proved or the person making them and scamming people would end up in prison.
@urbex2007 You're an idiot. You have to alter the voltage from the oxygen sensor to make the injectors dump less fuel. If you don't then the O2 sensor will actually dump more fuel in because it thinks its getting too much air. Do some research before posting.
@urbex2007 Your foot varies the amount of fuel injected, in response to the amount of speed you require. If the engine puts out more then you ease up, hence fuel saving. A more efficient engine will use less fuel and have greater performance, they are one and the same. As for weather HHO works, you actually don't know because like me you don't have one. You are simply making flawed assumptions.
To all the people doubting this you need to visit tezpower.com. It has a an honest, no bull explanation with realistic expectations. I met the guy in Iceland when I was on holiday with a mutual friend. Ive seen first hand the cleanliness of the engines, he is testing on dirtbikes, quads, cars, road bikes - everything. Ive got a clip of my mate riding the blue harley in the articles, it sounds amazing and the throttle response is so quick he bypassed the pump.
the major reason why a gas burns cleaner than a liquid is because it is already in a gas form which requires less energy to burn. however, the gas' major problem is it has a less energy content than liquid (petro) which makes it relatively difficult to carry. whoever made this video is selling this machine. do u believe oil companies want to stop this kind of machine when they already know that the energy that is require to convert water into hydrogen will always come from petroleum.
This is all BS. When they install the H2 generator they change the timing & fuel mixture of the car. This is how you get better mileage, by leaning out the mixture.
You could do the same thing without the H2 Generator. The tradeoff is less motor life & possible emission problems.
@Texmurphy51 you are so very wrong, who is they, I have been doing this for years and I works, hydrogen burns clean so its less carbon to reach the oil = longer motor life. come on lets debate.
@critchley3819 Ok so if you have been doing this for years tell me how you inject the H2 into your car & modifications you have made to the fuel system. I know what people who have bought these kits have to do to theirs so lets see what you do.
@rayreckless If you assume conservation of energy then there is no gain, simply a small loss during energy conversion. However if you assume it improves the burn of the conventional fuel then it gives fuel saving just like the new high pressure injectors made by Delphi. However if you assume a catalysis effect to split H and O with less than the energy you get back from the HHO fuel then you just made free energy.
How could it make fuel economy. Car alternator takes mechanical energy and put it into electrical with some losts, this electrical one goes into HHO with new small losts, then this HHO goes into hit then hit with over 70 percents of losts goes back into mechanic energy. We've got back less energy then we spent on runnig the alternator ;))))
what's the ratio bewteen the amt of electricity your using to run this device and the amount of hyrgrogen fuel your producing? is there a surplus on the hydrogen side?
so drop those pups in a old rig and see if you can run it off there instead of just showing us how much you can produce I would rather see it running a car .
This actually works... Hydrogen works... The reason this does not work is because it will never develop in the Monetary system... Plus Do you any idea what matter is? Everything you touch is Fuel Your body is Fuel Technically Matter is just something you have to form with your hands... Even Iron or Stainless steel is the same as water you could make every form of matter into whatever you like that's because your God... Everybody is God. Matter is not real it's just an illusion
The chain of events, water, to hydrogen, hydrogen to water we lose nothing. We gain power. As most show how to make hydrogen, they also show how to burn it, we loose water. BUT if we return the hydrogen back to water we loose nothing. In doing the whole process we gain power. Solar on water, water to hydrogen, hydrogen back to water. Making power. The water simple changes forms and ends up in the same state as it started out, as water.
@samljer Actually you are right. The constant amount of water in the planet is finite. I hate that you called me stupid, but then again I was trying to be a smart ass with my last comment.
What you have is a solar battery. By making Hydrogen using "Solar Power" to produce it. You can make power at night from a Hydrogen fuel cell. Thus storing the "Sun's" power at night. A professor at MIT did this some time ago.
Sun (solar power) used to power the electrolyses process = Hydrogen from water. Hydrogen combined with Oxygen (a Hydrogen Fuel Cell) = Electrical power with a by product of water. If not water is lost in the process, we can produce power from water using the process of electrolyses powered by the sun and never run out of power or water and clean up the water while doing so.
@samljer funny thing is, you get a LOT more out of hydrogen energy by weight, volume. And if you like to drink beer, and run out of gas, all you have to do is piss in the cell and that should get you to the next bar before closing...
@247News1 Hydrogen is not a source of energy. It is an energy carrier. You need to spend energy to make hydrogen. What do you suggest to use for as the source of energy?
@eorgeburns8 Is so true! Hydrogen does not occur in nature on earth. You can not find and harvest hydrogen. Therefore, hydrogen is not a source of energy. You need other energy to make hydrogen.
@a1mint sorry read it wrong i thought you meant you could only use like electrisite to make it . wich i know you can use a metal mix it with like hydregen peroxide and make hydregen to .sorry you were right. and to answer your question solar or wind
@eorgeburns8 The metal would be the source of energy. Finite, and still costly.
Wind or solar is cool, but the challenge is how to store hydrogen. Wikipedia has an interesting page on hydrogen storage. There are many options, but none of them are easy.
@a1mint ..What does it take to start your gasoline engine ? It takes a battery. Same ..To make HHO..All you need is a battery.. Seems to me that most people are making this harder than it really is.
@247News1 That battery stores energy that the engine had to make before.
Making HHO in a car takes energy from the alternator, which in turn, gets its energy from the engine, which in turn gets its energy from burning gasoline.
Tapping energy, converting it a bunch of times, and then putting only a portion of what is left back, does not make any economical sense at all.
HHO only deteriorates fuel economy. The overall net heat output is higher, thus, more lossy.
the reactor that splits the hydrogen and oxygen from water was first invented by a Filipino named Daniel Dingel. Some says, Honda stole the idea from him.It was in 1969 when the reactor was first invented. thus, I believe, the invention should be patented in Engr. Daniel Dingel's credit.
Hey fellas, take it easy on a1mint. "IT" found out that its ASS produces GAS, and since it's obviously been previously FRACTURED, now its all pissed off about it. Most likely after being locked up and DRILLED for that gas by BIG fat OIL companies.
You go a1mint, I'll back you up:
ASS GAS in not energy! It's BULL SHIT, and BS can not be energy, it can only be CONVERTED! And all those who want to run their cars on their assgas are idiots! Ass should smell like MINT and not BS, Yeah!
On the bright side you can use is as a demand for a pay raise. Tell your "employers" you managed to attract just enough attention to get kicked around. So hang in there you worthless wad of crusty camel cum, you miserable piece of pussy-assed fucking cock shit :)
Apparently so; it seems that YOUR inner child is demanding that the outer idiot it's stuck in, finally gets to changing the shit filled diaper you're both stuck in, with faint hope that one day self reliant ass wiping could finally become a possibility. So stop abusing the kid in you and get to self improving shit shoveling, you lazy bum.
I can do this all day. As Apu says; "Get out of my store, and please come again!"
@BigSmartArmed Do you kiss you mother with that mouth? Your temper tantrum isn't going to make the fact away, that on-demand on-board HHO only reduces fuel economy.
@a1mint You must be one of those sadomasochistic freaks "step on my cubes" type. As to telling me to rinse mouth I'm not the one GAGGING ON A GAS HOSE;
"I do make a point that because oil is plentiful and cheap (so far) it is very difficult to compete with"
Oil is NOT plentiful, NOT cheap, and competing with it is not difficult - it's flat out DEADLY. OIL = BLOOD you filthy oil whore.
@BigSmartArmed So far, oil has been able to supply the entire world's population energy demands, and it has been relatively cheap. Of course the price will only go up, but so far, an enormous amount has been consumed at a cheap price.
Competing with it has been very difficult, so far, otherwise we would have seen competing solutions.
Not so. In the beginning gasoline was actually a by-product that was difficult and hazardous to dispose of. Diesel is not a fuel, it's a great man that invented an engine that ran on VEGETABLE oil. it's the oil COMPANIES that heavily invested into modifying Diesel elegant design in order to burn stinky-dirty petrol fuel.
Oil based fuel was considered a dead dirty end, and only by a lot of CRIME did certain individuals created the BLOODY oil MONOPOLY. Read up on it my friend, it's an interesting story.
It is YOU that should GO AND WASH THE BLOOD OF YOUR HANDS and BiG OiLy dick out of YOUR mouth.
And yeah, u wanna play the yo momma game? Bring it on but make sure your insurance covers a whole lot of therapy cause I'm gonna fucking cripple you by only being your mirror.
@BigSmartArmed Instead of bitching and swearing like a lunatic, you might want to try to carry a normal conversation. Perhaps we could learn from each other.
@a1mint "Instead of bitching and swearing like a lunatic, you might want to try to carry a normal conversation. Perhaps we could learn from each other."
Actually some find such exchanges hilarious, and at time necessary. It could have been something about your initial approach. I'm all for carrying a normal conversation, and especially learning from one another.
That's right, you're the same old boring benign prick just like millions of others, and when it comes to "what others think"; we pity the likes of you. Usually that's done in humble silence, but hey, you're asking for it. Keep it coming shitbag, you've just graduated to an internship position as a virtual punching bag.
Wow that's a lot of big words; think, should, worried, perceived, dumb, stupid, "what others think". They would apply to insecure, self consciousness teenager, and as much as I would like to relive those days again so I can knock the fuck out all kinds of assholes that tried to pull that crap on me; those days are gone. On the other hand you're not a mystery at all, WE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE; just another pathetic asshole that stands in the way of the ones who dare to try and create.
Looks good to start with but there are several concerns about the design and funcionality of this system ... to check a successful system currently being used by one major vehicle manufacturer IN Australia check out this site
This isn't about powering an engine off the hydrogen generated. The idea is that hydrogen's flame temperature is extremely high and improves the combustion of regular fuel. While you lose some power making the hydrogen you gain more from the increased efficiency of the regular fuel.
That's the idea anyway, its been tested in a lab and it worked, but whether these devices are well calibrated is questionable. Thumb up so people can see some sense =\
My name is Exxon. If anyone out there have such a device that work, I'll buy it. Firstly, it will make me even more powerful. And secondly, all my competitors without a job. No conspiracy there. Keep trying out there. But sorry it won't work. Nature doesn't work like that. And trust me, elsely we would have done everything to get our hands on such a device before our competitors. No free ride. Systems like that don't work because H2O is a waste product just like CO2. Sorry.
@thefencejumperengine Devices that claim can create energy, are all frauds. HHO is a fraud, because it claims that you can create energy by converting it. It's a lie, a scam.
@a1mint although it's true that they don't creat energy, it is still true that they convert it, and hydrogen for fuel is a lot better than electricity for fuel, wether the money you save on gass prices out weighs the money you spend on electrical depends on a lot of things, however, in america's terrible economy, although electricity is expensice, gass is even worse, so its worth it. unless you don't live in america.
@a1mint ok, the hydrogen generators don't make enerygy, they convert it, and an electric car wouldn't work as well as a hydrogen car, so if the car and generator are very efficient, the electricity you put into getting hydrogen is worth it, since the hydrogen will power the car better than electricity will.
Let's compare an electric car with a car that runs on hydrogen. First off, a car that runs on hydrogen is not specific enough. Does it have an internal combustion engine that burns hydrogen? And where does that hydrogen come from, from storage tanks on board?
@a1mint the only 2 ways I can think that it could involve hydrogen and no gassoline are with a hydrogen fuel cell to produce electricity, but then it's not running off of hydrogen now is it, so internal combustion engine. the car would probably have tanks of hydrogen in it, much like gass tanks, but it might produce its own hydrogen instead, probably the prior or both though.
So UltraSonic tooth brushes are also a lie and a scam? The head does not move mechanically, WoW, must be a scam, a lie, since only mechanically visible movement is real. Digital clocks must be some sort of magic. None of these devices claim to "produce energy"; they do fracture H2O kind of like ultrasonic pulses fracture the plaque on your teeth. If dental plaque could be burned for fuel sonic toothbrushes would also be "impossible lies" The universe only largely made of hydrogen.
@BigSmartArmed Ultra sonic tooth brushes and digital clocks are entirely different topics that have absolutely nothing to do with any of this. To make these comparison makes you look desperately stupid.
And while hydrogen might be the most common substance of the universe, hydrogen does not naturally occur in nature on earth. So it's not an energy source. It's an energy carrier.
Seriously, your points really are the stupidest and pathetic I've heard in a while.
That's right, nothing has to do with anything to desperately stupid people who believe that energy comes from the ground in the form of expensive black goo that used to be dinosaurs. Whoops, forgot "pathetic", what else? Got more insults there you highly advanced and intelligent being? You must be one of those "superior", "chosen" and all powerful ones, right? I'd tell you to go fuck your self but it's no use, you're already fucked.
@BigSmartArmed I have not said anything suggesting that oil (which is a combination of collected bio matter, not "dinosaurs" by the way), it a good or smart energy source. I know it's in essence very inefficient solar energy, and that it is finite.
I do make a point that because oil is plentiful and cheap (so far), it is very difficult to compete with.
As for being intelligent, we'll let others decide who's making intelligent points and who's not. I'm not worried for a split second.
@a1mint Apparently you did not grasp my point. You just proved it with your sarcastic bs, its really not necessary and I hate when people do that. Let me be the one to tell your just by looking at this first page of comments, your taking this way too seriously. If you paid attention to the comment or if you even know the first law of thermodynamics, you'd understand my point a lot more clearly. I was saying the same thing your saying, its bullshit because you cant make something from nothing.
Plus on top of that If this is all bullshit, then let people fail. but no you try so hard to convince people. who cares let them experiment. its america, thats what people do here. in saudi arabia its different I know but not here.
so you didnt deny being associated with the other screen name. thats cool. usually people dont try so hard to disprove videos like this. you give yourself away. you need to be more stealthy imo. or else you suck at your job.
@a1mint sounds like this also might be you on another water burning video under the screen name a4ewer. you guys don't fool me. so its A then a number then four random letters. Don't listen to these Manchurian screen names. a4ewer is spewing same rhetoric just like you are here. way too similar.
@Drawmer2 The only thing that's rhetoric is the bullshit that people barf up how water burns, how you can create energy, and how the laws of nature are incorrect.
Any actual scientist 100% agrees with me.
0% of any actual scientists agrees with anything any of these quacks barf up.
@dragonracer76 Actually, it's not a fuel cell. It's an electrolyzer. A fuel cell converts a fuel to electricity, not the other way around. The term fuel cell is misused and abused by HHO scammers.
@a1mint that makes no sense. and what does it matter what it's called in the first place? you're pushing the peas around the plate my friend, ignoring the meat and potatoes.
@dragonracer76 One is the correct definition, the other is not. A fuel cell converts a fuel to electricity. That's the definition of the term. HHO peddlers need to stop trying to steal a scientific name for their own abuse.
this arguement is pointless. hho isn't about creating energy from nothing. it's about using an alternate energy (electricity) to convert the potential energy in the hydrogen found in water into kenetic energy that we can use for work (making the engine run). think of it as using cash to buy arcade coins to make a video game work.
some forms of fuel are more energy efficient than others. liquid gasoline, even after being turned to a mist isn't as efficient as a flammable gas.
Nobody is looking for free energy. Just a less expensive means to produce energy while also being less obtrusive to our environment. If you compare oil to water as an energy source, both have positive and negative attributes. However, the naysayers of hydrogen as a fuel is assuming that gasoline requires no energy input to create as well and that is a misnomer. It requires MORE energy than what a gallon of gasoline can produce to create that same gallon of gas. Then means its all about convience
Scam. Check out the first law of thermodynamics. Drawing 30 amps will load the alternator, slow the engine and take more power than you will get back from the hydrogen when the heat losses in the HHO system are taken into account.
A1mint sounds like he's hired by big oil. He's trying so hard to discredit hho it gives him away. We all know this method is devastating to oil companies. Boo hoo go cry a river. Even god said water is source of life and I think we found it's true potential. So take that pump nozzle and shove it. Can't make money off piss water which is what it takes to make this gas.
@Drawmer2 Amen brother! HHO works wonders. Wish the tards out there would realize its potential. So far in my little 3 cylinder im getting next to 65 mpg. I havent changed my oil in over 6k miles because the oil is still clean!
@nil0bject What plausible arguments? Taking energy from the engine and converting it a bunch of times, and hoping when you put it back there is a gain? That, my friend, is not possible. You can not create energy.
@a1mint nobody is saying that, YOU FRICKIN IDIOT!!!!!!
hahaha, you're such a tool. what a loser!!! learn to read moron! learn the english language! learn how to argue! i have to resort to petty insults, because you fail to present valid arguments that have relevance to what others are saying. YOU FAIL! FAILURE, you're a failure!!
@nil0bject You're lying. HHO peddlers say that you can gain fuel economy by converting the engine's energy to hydrogen and then burning the hydrogen again in the engine. This can only incur losses, and not any gains.
We'll leave the judging of who's the loser and idiot to others. I'm not worried for one split second.
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t is possible to run a car just on HHO, I have almost successfully done it, u can watch my first video just by clicking on pieterdavison
PieterDavison 3 weeks ago
battery technology needs to advance before we put them in our cars
kuranintoki 1 month ago
has anyone tried this thing to see if the MPG increases?
a 30amp draw is significant and would require a pretty good increase in MPG to overcome the energy needed to create 30amps.
stayinstock 1 month ago
This freakin music hypnotising me O.O
777exist 2 months ago
Alternator driven electrolysis will never be viable. Solar powered, on the other hand...
puckishphysio89 2 months ago
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Hello my friend, I live in Brazil, I have a car of Citroen Xsara 2.0 16v, wanted to put a hydrogen generator, how could you help me, since I have trouble buying some material, if you have a kit for sale how could sell, and what is included in the kit, awaiting the return, my email amauri12009@uol.com.br, Telephone: (24) 33421018, hugs, Amaury Correa da Fonseca. Sorry for the mistakes I used Google translator
amauri12009 3 months ago
So, if the IC engine converts 50% of the heat energy in the fuel in to mechanical work, and it takes work to run the alternator....The 360W needed to run the HHO generator, will require 720W worth of fuel. When you burn the Hydrogen in the engine, you will get back approximately 360W worth of energy, half of which becomes mechanical power. One thing is for sure, HHO generators are 100 bullsh¤¤. And, I have seen where some of the systems actually cause corrosion in the throttle body and intake.
Daaremikkel 3 months ago
@Daaremikkel Yeah, for cars it's inefficient but pretty nice for filling balloons and exploding stuff :D
TheError404 2 months ago
@TheError404 True!
Daaremikkel 2 months ago
@TheError404 Finally someone that have found a good way to use thoose devices for! GJ!
taztaz79 2 months ago
I read that the system takes 30 amperes. Does this affects the battery from charging correctly? Is it direct or alternating current?
Karlitox23 3 months ago in playlist WATER POWERED CAR HYDROGEN GENERATOR
@Karlitox23 Well you might destroy your alternator/generator fiddeling with this bullshit.. This wont work.. find something else to do...
taztaz79 2 months ago
@taztaz79 So from your experience it did not work and you blew your alternator?
I can guess accurately that you never tried this. You know some science and know that energy cannot be created or destroyed and so believe this is the only science relevant to this. You however believe the car makers when they say their new engine is more powerful and uses less fuel. Somehow you can believe the car makers can create energy from nothing.
RavenPrecept 2 months ago
@RavenPrecept The thing is that they are NOT creating energy from nothing. They are claiming increases in the efficiency of extracting energy from fuel. To claim that you can perform electrolysis to separate the hydrogen from water and then burn it for an energy profit is bogus. Just to break even would require 100% efficiency from your electrical generator, no resistance in your electrical conductors, no friction between engine parts, etc. Not going to happen.
qawamity 1 month ago
@qawamity They don't claim to create free energy although some people using HHO do claim this. They claim that HHO makes the engine run more efficiently thus providing a fuel saving. However don't be so quick to claim that energy cannot be created or destroyed. It just probably not happening here.
RavenPrecept 1 month ago
@RavenPrecept Don't be so quick to say energy cannot be created or destroyed? Why, do you know something that proves one of the fundamental laws of the universe as we understand it untrue? And I really don't see how using energy from hydrocarbon fuel to separate hydrogen from oxygen is going to yield more energy than was put into the separation process.
qawamity 1 month ago
People believe that there is no such thing as free energy. If so then why do people mine coal? That's not free energy but the energy you get out of the mine is more than you put in. It requires energy to make HHO but if it allows you to 'mine' extra energy from your fuel then it's worth it.
RavenPrecept 3 months ago
@RavenPrecept: Energy cannot be created or destroyed. It can be stored and released, but not created anew. With your perverted analogy involving a coal mine, there is no net decrease or increase of total energy in the system. The coal was already there, and the energy expended removing it from the ground is still kicking around as heat and other chemical byproducts.
puckishphysio89 2 months ago
@puckishphysio89 I think my analogy worked for you; "the energy was already there". When you make an engine run more efficiently you get more from your fuel than you did before. The only time when this is not possible (in a world where energy is not created or destroyed) is when the engine efficiency is already 100%.
RavenPrecept 2 months ago
@RavenPrecept: Didnt read your post properly. Unfortunately using kinetic energy to charge the battery is not 100% effective, nor is the electrolysis of water or the combustion of HHO. So using kinetic energy to make less current to make less gas to make slightly more combustion to make slightly more kinetic energy is a waste of time. If there is no additional energy input there will be less kinetic energy due to the energy lost during each change. Google laws of thermodynamics.
puckishphysio89 2 months ago
@puckishphysio89 I agree with that. However you are still missing the point I am making. If the HHO gas improves the combustion of the regular fuel it maybe worth the energy cost in creating the stuff. This can be checked by actually installing one of these, which you won't ever do whilst you can't imagine where the fuel savings could come from.
RavenPrecept 2 months ago
@RavenPrecept. I'm not missing the point. HHO will increase the efficiency of combustion, not questioning it. The method of production, however, is bogus. The energy lost by creating the HHO VIA AN ALTERNATOR must be less than the energy gained through more efficient combustion. Find out what each one is, think youll be surprised. "Maybe worth it" isnt something I'm going to shell out $500 for. As I've said before, there are far better ways of powering this.
puckishphysio89 2 months ago 2
@RavenPrecept Energy was put into creating the coal, but it wasn't put in by us. It was put in by once living things and by the forces of the environment (yes, it is called fossil fuel for a reason, it is made out of stuff that used to be alive).
qawamity 1 month ago
horse shit nonsense that exploits the fact that people have little understanding of physics.
axelerat3d 3 months ago
Music realey pepole
stovelover63 3 months ago
This is like that alkalized water crap. But for cars.
Kraedi 3 months ago
@Kraedi what?
SouthNJPC 3 months ago
Let me know your messenger id want to discuss something important with you. thanks
DinuIonutz 3 months ago
People say turn of the tap, you're wasting water.
I always roll my eyes at this, the water isn't wasted, it just goes back into the eco-system.
But this is wasting water. The water is destroyed never to be used again. Imagine every car in the world doing this?
D0wnshift 4 months ago
@D0wnshift That would be a disaster!!! But the global warming wouldn't be a problem then, we would lower the water level lol. Any way I think when the gas burn it turns back to water.
genisxxx 4 months ago
@D0wnshift wow that's the stupidest comment i've ever read. When you leave the tap open, you are in fact wasting water, since that water has been treated in order to make it drinkable, it's true that it goes back into the environment, but it needs to be treated again before you can use it.
Whilst in this process you are just splitting water into it's components by adding some energy, when you actually use the hydrogen, part of the energy is recovered and water is formed once again.
jkenigs 3 months ago
@jkenigs You proved yourself wrong. Running the tap does not waste water, the treatment the water received is wasted. Fine by me.
When you make broad sweeping comments like "wow that's the stupidest comment i've ever read" you just show how stupid you really are. Unless of course you were raised in a basement with no windows and no interaction with people ever, and you just broke free and this web page is the 1st thing you have ever read.
D0wnshift 3 months ago
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@D0wnshift Fighting online is like being in the special olympics... even if you win, you are still retarded!!! Congrats you guys...
SouthNJPC 3 months ago
@D0wnshift you are right, it might not be the stupidest, but it still ranks in the top 10 for sure! Just read your reply again. There's no mention whatsoever about you thinking that the water gets destroyed in the process, that is no doubt a really stupid thought. There's no harm done in reading a little bit before making such claims.
jkenigs 3 months ago
@jkenigs Fighting online is like being in the special olympics... even if you win, you are still retarded!!! Congrats you guys...
SouthNJPC 3 months ago
@D0wnshift no doubt a stupid comment
rolandroiroi 3 months ago
@D0wnshift I think it will become part of the circle again.
DJHcom 3 months ago
It takes way more energy to produce the hydrogen than the energy gained from its use. Also, they do not produce carburated engines anymore so the fuel injection system would not recognize the added hydrogen and continue to flow even more gas to compensate without alot of work to the ecm. Final result is, it dont work, it will not work from electricaly produced hydrogen from your alternator.
2012nugget 4 months ago
@2012nugget за това има електроника
ana19661966 3 months ago
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saka101hog 4 months ago
don't waste your money! this device does not alter the amount of fuel injected so the car will use the same, not less. with a heavy load on the alternator it will use more fuel. these devices do nothing for fuel consumption. i feel sorry for people being conned. In the UK the wild claims would need to be proved or the person making them and scamming people would end up in prison.
urbex2007 4 months ago
@urbex2007 You're an idiot. You have to alter the voltage from the oxygen sensor to make the injectors dump less fuel. If you don't then the O2 sensor will actually dump more fuel in because it thinks its getting too much air. Do some research before posting.
KKinney2009 4 months ago 2
@urbex2007 Your foot varies the amount of fuel injected, in response to the amount of speed you require. If the engine puts out more then you ease up, hence fuel saving. A more efficient engine will use less fuel and have greater performance, they are one and the same. As for weather HHO works, you actually don't know because like me you don't have one. You are simply making flawed assumptions.
RavenPrecept 3 months ago
During continuous operation, how much hydrogen is produced per hour?, and how much water is used per hour?
MaterSammichMan 4 months ago
To all the people doubting this you need to visit tezpower.com. It has a an honest, no bull explanation with realistic expectations. I met the guy in Iceland when I was on holiday with a mutual friend. Ive seen first hand the cleanliness of the engines, he is testing on dirtbikes, quads, cars, road bikes - everything. Ive got a clip of my mate riding the blue harley in the articles, it sounds amazing and the throttle response is so quick he bypassed the pump.
nuttynut1981 4 months ago
Music?
physivic 4 months ago
the major reason why a gas burns cleaner than a liquid is because it is already in a gas form which requires less energy to burn. however, the gas' major problem is it has a less energy content than liquid (petro) which makes it relatively difficult to carry. whoever made this video is selling this machine. do u believe oil companies want to stop this kind of machine when they already know that the energy that is require to convert water into hydrogen will always come from petroleum.
eastern2western 5 months ago 2
what car only burns 50% of the injected fuel? it suffers from knocking.
but its true that only 40% of the power from combustion is used to drive the car forward.
dedasdude 5 months ago
This is all BS. When they install the H2 generator they change the timing & fuel mixture of the car. This is how you get better mileage, by leaning out the mixture.
You could do the same thing without the H2 Generator. The tradeoff is less motor life & possible emission problems.
Texmurphy51 5 months ago
@Texmurphy51 you are so very wrong, who is they, I have been doing this for years and I works, hydrogen burns clean so its less carbon to reach the oil = longer motor life. come on lets debate.
critchley3819 5 months ago
@critchley3819 Ok so if you have been doing this for years tell me how you inject the H2 into your car & modifications you have made to the fuel system. I know what people who have bought these kits have to do to theirs so lets see what you do.
Texmurphy51 5 months ago
and who pays the electricity bill? in the end its much cheaper to run your car with normal fuel.
KarlheinzBarner 5 months ago
@KarlheinzBarner
who pays the electric bill? The electric comes off the alternator in the car while you are running.
rayreckless 4 months ago
@rayreckless the engine runs the alternator......
obezana 4 months ago
@rayreckless If you assume conservation of energy then there is no gain, simply a small loss during energy conversion. However if you assume it improves the burn of the conventional fuel then it gives fuel saving just like the new high pressure injectors made by Delphi. However if you assume a catalysis effect to split H and O with less than the energy you get back from the HHO fuel then you just made free energy.
RavenPrecept 3 months ago
please make an explanation video :D
RedSandPalm 5 months ago
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How could it make fuel economy. Car alternator takes mechanical energy and put it into electrical with some losts, this electrical one goes into HHO with new small losts, then this HHO goes into hit then hit with over 70 percents of losts goes back into mechanic energy. We've got back less energy then we spent on runnig the alternator ;))))
iosin1 5 months ago
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iosin1 5 months ago
i want to asq aquestion
q1: i want to know the shape of the cell from inside and the electrical connection
q2:how mutch hydrogen it produce in aminite
q3;when the hyd.gas separate fom oxy.are the oxy.relese to the atmosphere and how
q4: how i can pump and compressed the hyd.gas in the tanks
i wait the answerson the email
nasserazam99@yahoo.com
nasserazam99 5 months ago
Those 134 workers in the oil business obviously don't like this because it would lower their sale!
Take THAT scumbags!
spectrospirit 5 months ago
what's the ratio bewteen the amt of electricity your using to run this device and the amount of hyrgrogen fuel your producing? is there a surplus on the hydrogen side?
interstategar 5 months ago in playlist Queue (100)
so drop those pups in a old rig and see if you can run it off there instead of just showing us how much you can produce I would rather see it running a car .
dunn98632 5 months ago
@dunn98632 I currently have mine in my truck. In the process of mileage check.
Looking pretty promising for only 8 cells!
Stay tuned.
a2zhandi 5 months ago
DRILL FOR OIL GET RICH
picaticatara 5 months ago
@picaticatara wait for it to rain, and leave the oil in the ground!
a2zhandi 5 months ago
@a2zhandi AND BE POOR
picaticatara 5 months ago
@picaticatara only in your little box. Those who dare to venture outside the box find what ever it is they seek.
a2zhandi 5 months ago
@a2zhandi I LIVE IN A TIN CAN NOT A BOX
picaticatara 5 months ago
@picaticatara so that would explain your demeanor.....
Thanks
a2zhandi 5 months ago
@rstevewarmorycom
This actually works... Hydrogen works... The reason this does not work is because it will never develop in the Monetary system... Plus Do you any idea what matter is? Everything you touch is Fuel Your body is Fuel Technically Matter is just something you have to form with your hands... Even Iron or Stainless steel is the same as water you could make every form of matter into whatever you like that's because your God... Everybody is God. Matter is not real it's just an illusion
Zamovinar 6 months ago
@Zamovinar sooooo, your saying If it's not real it doesn't matter?
a2zhandi 5 months ago
Please note that the gas is flowing into the glass boxes and NOT out of the boxes.
johnnnyreb51 6 months ago
The chain of events, water, to hydrogen, hydrogen to water we lose nothing. We gain power. As most show how to make hydrogen, they also show how to burn it, we loose water. BUT if we return the hydrogen back to water we loose nothing. In doing the whole process we gain power. Solar on water, water to hydrogen, hydrogen back to water. Making power. The water simple changes forms and ends up in the same state as it started out, as water.
johnnnyreb51 6 months ago
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johnnnyreb51 6 months ago
Using freshwater, a non-renweable source, as an alternative to a non-renewable source? fucking silly.
samljer 6 months ago
@samljer hey fuck-slap, the water is again released through emmisions going back into the atmosphere and therfore the earth. Look it up dipfuck...
sirjakenbacon 6 months ago
@sirjakenbacon Hey cunt-sniff, i did
not 100% of the water is recovered, look it up cock-itch. lol
fukin bitch
samljer 6 months ago
@samljer is water non=reweable?
please tell me you are joking.
sgtcojonez 5 months ago
@sgtcojonez Freshwater sources, not all water sources.
google before another comment plz, talking with stupid ppl tires me out.
samljer 5 months ago
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@samljer Actually you are right. The constant amount of water in the planet is finite. I hate that you called me stupid, but then again I was trying to be a smart ass with my last comment.
sgtcojonez 5 months ago
а поджечь?
megastuffer 6 months ago
this showed me nothing no guages info anything
72fordmaverick 6 months ago
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What you have is a solar battery. By making Hydrogen using "Solar Power" to produce it. You can make power at night from a Hydrogen fuel cell. Thus storing the "Sun's" power at night. A professor at MIT did this some time ago.
johnnnyreb51 6 months ago
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The proper use of this would be to make the Hydrogen, use it to run a Hydrogen fuel cell, making power with a by produce of water.
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johnnnyreb51 6 months ago
Sun (solar power) used to power the electrolyses process = Hydrogen from water. Hydrogen combined with Oxygen (a Hydrogen Fuel Cell) = Electrical power with a by product of water. If not water is lost in the process, we can produce power from water using the process of electrolyses powered by the sun and never run out of power or water and clean up the water while doing so.
johnnnyreb51 6 months ago
@johnnnyreb51 Theres less fresh water then crude oil, find another source, regardless of how you
get the hydrogen out; its stupid as a sack of shit.
samljer 6 months ago
@samljer funny thing is, you get a LOT more out of hydrogen energy by weight, volume. And if you like to drink beer, and run out of gas, all you have to do is piss in the cell and that should get you to the next bar before closing...
a2zhandi 5 months ago
Why not measure how many watts you put into the cell and compare that to the engine output and see which is greater.
james110100 6 months ago
Get rid of the gasoline. You don't need 2 gases .. Hello..
247News1 6 months ago
@247News1 Hydrogen is not a source of energy. It is an energy carrier. You need to spend energy to make hydrogen. What do you suggest to use for as the source of energy?
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint not true
eorgeburns8 6 months ago
@eorgeburns8 Is so true! Hydrogen does not occur in nature on earth. You can not find and harvest hydrogen. Therefore, hydrogen is not a source of energy. You need other energy to make hydrogen.
Hydrogen is therefore an energy carrier.
What part of this don't you understand?
a1mint 6 months ago 2
@a1mint sorry read it wrong i thought you meant you could only use like electrisite to make it . wich i know you can use a metal mix it with like hydregen peroxide and make hydregen to .sorry you were right. and to answer your question solar or wind
eorgeburns8 6 months ago
@eorgeburns8 The metal would be the source of energy. Finite, and still costly.
Wind or solar is cool, but the challenge is how to store hydrogen. Wikipedia has an interesting page on hydrogen storage. There are many options, but none of them are easy.
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint it never is is it?
eorgeburns8 6 months ago
@a1mint ..What does it take to start your gasoline engine ? It takes a battery. Same ..To make HHO..All you need is a battery.. Seems to me that most people are making this harder than it really is.
247News1 6 months ago
@247News1 That battery stores energy that the engine had to make before.
Making HHO in a car takes energy from the alternator, which in turn, gets its energy from the engine, which in turn gets its energy from burning gasoline.
Tapping energy, converting it a bunch of times, and then putting only a portion of what is left back, does not make any economical sense at all.
HHO only deteriorates fuel economy. The overall net heat output is higher, thus, more lossy.
a1mint 6 months ago
Engr. Dingel uses 12v battery to power up the reactor. Watch it in YT as he demonstrates it.
vidz022 6 months ago
the reactor that splits the hydrogen and oxygen from water was first invented by a Filipino named Daniel Dingel. Some says, Honda stole the idea from him.It was in 1969 when the reactor was first invented. thus, I believe, the invention should be patented in Engr. Daniel Dingel's credit.
vidz022 6 months ago
@vidz022 William Nicholson and Johann Ritter decomposed water into hydrogen and oxygen in 1800.
Potassium, sodium, barium, calcium and magnesium were discovered by Sir Humphry Davy using electrolysis in 1807.
Just about every single thing you HHO peddlers barf up, is utterly and entirely full of shit.
a1mint 6 months ago
Hey fellas, take it easy on a1mint. "IT" found out that its ASS produces GAS, and since it's obviously been previously FRACTURED, now its all pissed off about it. Most likely after being locked up and DRILLED for that gas by BIG fat OIL companies.
You go a1mint, I'll back you up:
ASS GAS in not energy! It's BULL SHIT, and BS can not be energy, it can only be CONVERTED! And all those who want to run their cars on their assgas are idiots! Ass should smell like MINT and not BS, Yeah!
BigSmartArmed 6 months ago
@BigSmartArmed I think you *SHOULD* be worried about who's perceived as the dumb and stupid one. Do you care at all what others think of you?
a1mint 6 months ago
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BigSmartArmed 6 months ago
@a1mint
On the bright side you can use is as a demand for a pay raise. Tell your "employers" you managed to attract just enough attention to get kicked around. So hang in there you worthless wad of crusty camel cum, you miserable piece of pussy-assed fucking cock shit :)
BigSmartArmed 6 months ago
@BigSmartArmed Awwww, did I make the baby cry...?
a1mint 6 months ago 2
@a1mint
>>>Awwww, did I make the baby cry...?<<<
Apparently so; it seems that YOUR inner child is demanding that the outer idiot it's stuck in, finally gets to changing the shit filled diaper you're both stuck in, with faint hope that one day self reliant ass wiping could finally become a possibility. So stop abusing the kid in you and get to self improving shit shoveling, you lazy bum.
I can do this all day. As Apu says; "Get out of my store, and please come again!"
BigSmartArmed 6 months ago
@BigSmartArmed Do you kiss you mother with that mouth? Your temper tantrum isn't going to make the fact away, that on-demand on-board HHO only reduces fuel economy.
Now go rinse your mouth, you're grounded.
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint You must be one of those sadomasochistic freaks "step on my cubes" type. As to telling me to rinse mouth I'm not the one GAGGING ON A GAS HOSE;
"I do make a point that because oil is plentiful and cheap (so far) it is very difficult to compete with"
Oil is NOT plentiful, NOT cheap, and competing with it is not difficult - it's flat out DEADLY. OIL = BLOOD you filthy oil whore.
BigSmartArmed 6 months ago
@BigSmartArmed So far, oil has been able to supply the entire world's population energy demands, and it has been relatively cheap. Of course the price will only go up, but so far, an enormous amount has been consumed at a cheap price.
Competing with it has been very difficult, so far, otherwise we would have seen competing solutions.
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint
Not so. In the beginning gasoline was actually a by-product that was difficult and hazardous to dispose of. Diesel is not a fuel, it's a great man that invented an engine that ran on VEGETABLE oil. it's the oil COMPANIES that heavily invested into modifying Diesel elegant design in order to burn stinky-dirty petrol fuel.
BigSmartArmed 6 months ago
@a1mint
Oil based fuel was considered a dead dirty end, and only by a lot of CRIME did certain individuals created the BLOODY oil MONOPOLY. Read up on it my friend, it's an interesting story.
BigSmartArmed 6 months ago
@a1mint
It is YOU that should GO AND WASH THE BLOOD OF YOUR HANDS and BiG OiLy dick out of YOUR mouth.
And yeah, u wanna play the yo momma game? Bring it on but make sure your insurance covers a whole lot of therapy cause I'm gonna fucking cripple you by only being your mirror.
BigSmartArmed 6 months ago
@BigSmartArmed Instead of bitching and swearing like a lunatic, you might want to try to carry a normal conversation. Perhaps we could learn from each other.
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint "Instead of bitching and swearing like a lunatic, you might want to try to carry a normal conversation. Perhaps we could learn from each other."
Actually some find such exchanges hilarious, and at time necessary. It could have been something about your initial approach. I'm all for carrying a normal conversation, and especially learning from one another.
BigSmartArmed 6 months ago
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@a1mint
That's right, you're the same old boring benign prick just like millions of others, and when it comes to "what others think"; we pity the likes of you. Usually that's done in humble silence, but hey, you're asking for it. Keep it coming shitbag, you've just graduated to an internship position as a virtual punching bag.
BigSmartArmed 6 months ago
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@a1mint
Wow that's a lot of big words; think, should, worried, perceived, dumb, stupid, "what others think". They would apply to insecure, self consciousness teenager, and as much as I would like to relive those days again so I can knock the fuck out all kinds of assholes that tried to pull that crap on me; those days are gone. On the other hand you're not a mystery at all, WE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE; just another pathetic asshole that stands in the way of the ones who dare to try and create.
BigSmartArmed 6 months ago
Looks good to start with but there are several concerns about the design and funcionality of this system ... to check a successful system currently being used by one major vehicle manufacturer IN Australia check out this site
by glknox11
glknox11 6 months ago
@glknox11 Ugh, another HHO peddler / scammer...?
a1mint 6 months ago
This isn't about powering an engine off the hydrogen generated. The idea is that hydrogen's flame temperature is extremely high and improves the combustion of regular fuel. While you lose some power making the hydrogen you gain more from the increased efficiency of the regular fuel.
That's the idea anyway, its been tested in a lab and it worked, but whether these devices are well calibrated is questionable. Thumb up so people can see some sense =\
MicroCrayonSaw 6 months ago
@MicroCrayonSaw B U L L S H I T ! ! !
A car converts the energy available in gasoline to motion + heat. The heat are losses.
Making the combustion hotter, and the overall net heat output higher, only results in less of the energy getting converted to motion.
HHO can not work, it is a scam. All excuses are lies and deceptions.
And no, it has not been "tested". You quacks wouldn't understand scientific testing if you fell over it.
a1mint 6 months ago
Is this generator on the market yet? What is the name of the music playing in the video?
jatcam 6 months ago
My name is Exxon. If anyone out there have such a device that work, I'll buy it. Firstly, it will make me even more powerful. And secondly, all my competitors without a job. No conspiracy there. Keep trying out there. But sorry it won't work. Nature doesn't work like that. And trust me, elsely we would have done everything to get our hands on such a device before our competitors. No free ride. Systems like that don't work because H2O is a waste product just like CO2. Sorry.
thefencejumperengine 7 months ago
@thefencejumperengine Devices that claim can create energy, are all frauds. HHO is a fraud, because it claims that you can create energy by converting it. It's a lie, a scam.
a1mint 7 months ago 2
@a1mint. Right on!
thefencejumperengine 6 months ago
@a1mint although it's true that they don't creat energy, it is still true that they convert it, and hydrogen for fuel is a lot better than electricity for fuel, wether the money you save on gass prices out weighs the money you spend on electrical depends on a lot of things, however, in america's terrible economy, although electricity is expensice, gass is even worse, so its worth it. unless you don't live in america.
AlbinoBlueSquirrel 6 months ago
@AlbinoBlueSquirrel You're not making any sense. Clarify your points. I'm seeing you write this:
1) "they" convert energy. Who is "they". Convert from what to what?
2) hydrogen is better than electricity.
I can't even make out the rest.
a1mint 6 months ago 2
@a1mint ok, the hydrogen generators don't make enerygy, they convert it, and an electric car wouldn't work as well as a hydrogen car, so if the car and generator are very efficient, the electricity you put into getting hydrogen is worth it, since the hydrogen will power the car better than electricity will.
AlbinoBlueSquirrel 6 months ago
@AlbinoBlueSquirrel
Let's compare an electric car with a car that runs on hydrogen. First off, a car that runs on hydrogen is not specific enough. Does it have an internal combustion engine that burns hydrogen? And where does that hydrogen come from, from storage tanks on board?
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint the only 2 ways I can think that it could involve hydrogen and no gassoline are with a hydrogen fuel cell to produce electricity, but then it's not running off of hydrogen now is it, so internal combustion engine. the car would probably have tanks of hydrogen in it, much like gass tanks, but it might produce its own hydrogen instead, probably the prior or both though.
AlbinoBlueSquirrel 6 months ago
@AlbinoBlueSquirrel You're not making any sense. Let me put out a few scenarios, you pick.
1) ICE running on gasoline from tank
2) ICE running on hydrogen from tank
3) electric running on battery
4) electric running on electricity from fuel cell feeding from hydrogen from tank
Plus the dumbest:
5) ICE running on gasoline from tank + hydrogen from electrolyzer from electricity from alternator from ICE
What's best you think?
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint
So UltraSonic tooth brushes are also a lie and a scam? The head does not move mechanically, WoW, must be a scam, a lie, since only mechanically visible movement is real. Digital clocks must be some sort of magic. None of these devices claim to "produce energy"; they do fracture H2O kind of like ultrasonic pulses fracture the plaque on your teeth. If dental plaque could be burned for fuel sonic toothbrushes would also be "impossible lies" The universe only largely made of hydrogen.
BigSmartArmed 6 months ago
@BigSmartArmed Ultra sonic tooth brushes and digital clocks are entirely different topics that have absolutely nothing to do with any of this. To make these comparison makes you look desperately stupid.
And while hydrogen might be the most common substance of the universe, hydrogen does not naturally occur in nature on earth. So it's not an energy source. It's an energy carrier.
Seriously, your points really are the stupidest and pathetic I've heard in a while.
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint
That's right, nothing has to do with anything to desperately stupid people who believe that energy comes from the ground in the form of expensive black goo that used to be dinosaurs. Whoops, forgot "pathetic", what else? Got more insults there you highly advanced and intelligent being? You must be one of those "superior", "chosen" and all powerful ones, right? I'd tell you to go fuck your self but it's no use, you're already fucked.
BigSmartArmed 6 months ago
@BigSmartArmed I have not said anything suggesting that oil (which is a combination of collected bio matter, not "dinosaurs" by the way), it a good or smart energy source. I know it's in essence very inefficient solar energy, and that it is finite.
I do make a point that because oil is plentiful and cheap (so far), it is very difficult to compete with.
As for being intelligent, we'll let others decide who's making intelligent points and who's not. I'm not worried for a split second.
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint Its the first law of thermodynamics. That is to physics what the first commandment is to christians
jnwpse 6 months ago
@jnwpse Let's leave religion out of it. We're among scammers and fraudsters, rip off artists, here. What do you have to contribute?
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint Apparently you did not grasp my point. You just proved it with your sarcastic bs, its really not necessary and I hate when people do that. Let me be the one to tell your just by looking at this first page of comments, your taking this way too seriously. If you paid attention to the comment or if you even know the first law of thermodynamics, you'd understand my point a lot more clearly. I was saying the same thing your saying, its bullshit because you cant make something from nothing.
jnwpse 6 months ago
@jnwpse Surely, they must have thrown every excuse and tactic in the book at you, to pretend they're right?
a1mint 6 months ago
And my question is....;
- can you produce 1 kg of H2 using less than 39 kWh of electricity ?
DUCTIBIL 7 months ago
Plus on top of that If this is all bullshit, then let people fail. but no you try so hard to convince people. who cares let them experiment. its america, thats what people do here. in saudi arabia its different I know but not here.
Drawmer2 7 months ago
so you didnt deny being associated with the other screen name. thats cool. usually people dont try so hard to disprove videos like this. you give yourself away. you need to be more stealthy imo. or else you suck at your job.
Drawmer2 7 months ago
@a1mint sounds like this also might be you on another water burning video under the screen name a4ewer. you guys don't fool me. so its A then a number then four random letters. Don't listen to these Manchurian screen names. a4ewer is spewing same rhetoric just like you are here. way too similar.
Drawmer2 7 months ago
@Drawmer2 The only thing that's rhetoric is the bullshit that people barf up how water burns, how you can create energy, and how the laws of nature are incorrect.
Any actual scientist 100% agrees with me.
0% of any actual scientists agrees with anything any of these quacks barf up.
a1mint 7 months ago
@Drawmer2 ..... but wait, all the scientists work for the oil companies of course. Yes that it, it's all a conspiracy.
Good grief man, how over the top fucked are you quacks really?
a1mint 7 months ago
sweet fuel cell btw. haha. any work on how much you're making and possibly a way to control how much is injected??
dragonracer76 7 months ago
@dragonracer76 Actually, it's not a fuel cell. It's an electrolyzer. A fuel cell converts a fuel to electricity, not the other way around. The term fuel cell is misused and abused by HHO scammers.
a1mint 7 months ago
@a1mint that makes no sense. and what does it matter what it's called in the first place? you're pushing the peas around the plate my friend, ignoring the meat and potatoes.
dragonracer76 7 months ago
@dragonracer76 One is the correct definition, the other is not. A fuel cell converts a fuel to electricity. That's the definition of the term. HHO peddlers need to stop trying to steal a scientific name for their own abuse.
a1mint 7 months ago
this arguement is pointless. hho isn't about creating energy from nothing. it's about using an alternate energy (electricity) to convert the potential energy in the hydrogen found in water into kenetic energy that we can use for work (making the engine run). think of it as using cash to buy arcade coins to make a video game work.
some forms of fuel are more energy efficient than others. liquid gasoline, even after being turned to a mist isn't as efficient as a flammable gas.
dragonracer76 7 months ago
Nobody is looking for free energy. Just a less expensive means to produce energy while also being less obtrusive to our environment. If you compare oil to water as an energy source, both have positive and negative attributes. However, the naysayers of hydrogen as a fuel is assuming that gasoline requires no energy input to create as well and that is a misnomer. It requires MORE energy than what a gallon of gasoline can produce to create that same gallon of gas. Then means its all about convience
lwblack64 7 months ago
@lwblack64 actually, i would totally welcome free energy. i can't think of anyone i know would rather pay for energy.
dragonracer76 7 months ago
Scam. Check out the first law of thermodynamics. Drawing 30 amps will load the alternator, slow the engine and take more power than you will get back from the hydrogen when the heat losses in the HHO system are taken into account.
CaraBrimleyRules 7 months ago
Nice HHO generator. This would be really useful for my hydrogen cannon.
rocketman221projects 7 months ago
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Drawmer2 7 months ago
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Drawmer2 7 months ago
A1mint sounds like he's hired by big oil. He's trying so hard to discredit hho it gives him away. We all know this method is devastating to oil companies. Boo hoo go cry a river. Even god said water is source of life and I think we found it's true potential. So take that pump nozzle and shove it. Can't make money off piss water which is what it takes to make this gas.
Drawmer2 8 months ago
@Drawmer2 Amen brother! HHO works wonders. Wish the tards out there would realize its potential. So far in my little 3 cylinder im getting next to 65 mpg. I havent changed my oil in over 6k miles because the oil is still clean!
derikk123 7 months ago
@Drawmer2 hahaha, that's what i was thinking. you give him plausible arguments and he replies: "SCAM!!!". hahahah, he's such a failure.
nil0bject 7 months ago
@nil0bject What plausible arguments? Taking energy from the engine and converting it a bunch of times, and hoping when you put it back there is a gain? That, my friend, is not possible. You can not create energy.
The laws of nature are against you.
a1mint 7 months ago
@a1mint nobody is saying that, YOU FRICKIN IDIOT!!!!!!
hahaha, you're such a tool. what a loser!!! learn to read moron! learn the english language! learn how to argue! i have to resort to petty insults, because you fail to present valid arguments that have relevance to what others are saying. YOU FAIL! FAILURE, you're a failure!!
nil0bject 7 months ago
@nil0bject You're lying. HHO peddlers say that you can gain fuel economy by converting the engine's energy to hydrogen and then burning the hydrogen again in the engine. This can only incur losses, and not any gains.
We'll leave the judging of who's the loser and idiot to others. I'm not worried for one split second.
a1mint 7 months ago
@a1mint oh, and you think nature has laws.... hahahha, you have your head in the sand, failure.
nil0bject 7 months ago
@nil0bject Never heard of the natural laws or the laws of nature?
Wikipedia: Natural_law read and learn.
a1mint 7 months ago
@a1mint i am quite aware of this. hence my previous statement. you utter failure!
i'm saying that this is very old ways of thinking. everything is a law! hahaha, so static. so boring. so utterly and completely wrong!!!
nil0bject 7 months ago
@nil0bject So you're special and your gadgets don't have to abide by the laws of nature then?
a1mint 7 months ago
@a1mint what gadgets? wtf are you talking about. you just spew rhetoric and rubbish. constant bullshit!! hahaa, no wonder you don't have any friends.
nil0bject 7 months ago
@nil0bject I'm not the one spewing rhetoric and rubbish, you are. Pretending that it is the other way around does not make it so.
It is you that is making claims how the laws of nature do not apply to you.
Any scientist will 100% agree that it is you that is spewing rhetoric and rubbish.
Clearly, scientists and science and the scientific process, are not your friends.
Your solution probably: "you and them all work for the oil companies". Rriigghhtt......
a1mint 7 months ago
@a1mint in fact, by your standard, natural law is a SCAM!!!!
nil0bject 7 months ago
@nil0bject Prove it! Until then we shall consider you to be a swindler.
a1mint 7 months ago