I have a theory on lightsabers. It is a lazer beam restricted by a shield. Most people do not realize there are different types of shields. This one reflects energy "inclulding the lazer inside" but allows matter to pass through. That is why it will melt metal and not bounce off. If I am right then the bullet would hit the lazer beam melt and you would have a slow moving peice of slag comming at you. My theory is as elegent as a lightsaber.
IMO, the lightsaber would vaporize the bullet. When we see them cutting through metal, it`s always some high density compound, made to withstand punishment. Something a bullet is not. And I think that a Jedi would predict the bulet`s trajectory. AND there are other tricks they could use to defend themselves.
I think youtube has vids of samurai swords (katanas) cutting or blocking bullets or something like that? Might wanna check out some of those to get ideas.
Kate, what might happen is the bullet might become liquefied upon contact with the lightsaber's blade. and you might have tiny blobs of molten metal fly off. If a bullet hit the blade close enough to the hilt, the Jedi could be burned from the resultant hot blobs of metal flying out and hitting them.
While lightsabers cut metal they cut fairly slow, therefore the bullet might half melt before hitting the jedi at hundreds of miles per hour. Also maybe most cultures in that universe developed the blaster bolt before making gun powder, and never bothered developing other projectiles.
In the non-cannonical (I think) Splinter of the Mind's Eye by Alan Dean Foster, Luke fiddles with controls on the bottom of his lightsabre to narrow the beam down to a knife edge to ... cut through some door bolt or something as quietly as possible. So if that's true, then the sabre blade is actually adjustable and might really be "wide" for "normal" use. Disclaimer: I read that book in ... 6th grade (maybe 7th), and that's more decades ago than I care to remember.
Maybe it was in one of the novels - `course I don`t know if you read any of them (just tryin` to help).
On the effectiveness of bullets thing - you might be onto something here. Consider how well the Tau`ri projectile-based weaponry works against the "superior" technology of the Goa`uld (and Wraith - for the Atlantis fans) on the Stargate series.
Hell, we might actually stand a chance if we`re ever invaded - just sayin` (see Battle: Los Angelos for another example).
If blaster bolts can make cool sounds in space, they can probably do all kinds of crap. But hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good assault rifle at your side.
@BionicDance OK from a shooter see if you can follow bullet traveling in Direction A spinning at 160000RPM would be turned into the equal of Sprial onion from hungry jacks in shape times 2 pieces still traveling at say 2600 feet per second in direction A ---> Equals 1 Dead Jedi.
Can I just ask how it is supposed to make sense that a blaster bolt would deflect off of a lightsaber blade? I'm pretty sure if the blade is microscopic then the exact same thing would happen with blaster bolts than with bullets, it would split in two and still hurtle towards the target.
Have you ever seen Sci Fi scence? in one of the episodes Dr. Michio Kaku explains how to make a real lightsaber idk i thought it was interesting... if you have not seen it here you go /watch?v=xSNubaa7n9o
I would definitely say though the blade is microscopic; just like the light emitted, the intense heat generated by the blade would occupy an area larger than the blade, probably about the same area as the visible light.
I would venture that if you were strong enough with the force, that your light saber would be guided to effectively counter the bullet, however it was required.
Bullet would melt. The sabers are round-shaped, and very hot.
What I actually proposed as a Jedi-killing weapon would be the ultimate shotgun.
Shotguns are basically the same "bullet splits into two" story, but the split is already done, and the spread makes it so it can't be blocked.
I suggested magnetic shields are easier to build and carry. The invention of those shields made bullets useless, which in turn made the shields useless because nobody used bullets anymore.
i don't think it's that it vibrates. i think it's a stream of particles. like how a chainsaw works, but with the teeth being tiny particles, moving up the core and down the outside in a loop. the damage it does looks more like friction damage than a simple burning, especially with the sparks it throws. this would also explain why the blades tend to repel each other on contact.
if you watch my "brandon vs chris" video, i was thinking in these terms when i put the sounds to their video, matiching the bouncing and grinding sounds with the motions, and adding a squeak to the blades as they slide along each other.
Nevermind of course the heat from plasma should burn the shooter with its intense heat emission the moment it comes out of the weapon but hey details.
@BionicDance It depends on how it hits it I guess -parallel or perpendicular to the blade. Though a Jedi with Force instincts could probably reflexively deflect it the right way.
@BionicDance wrong, we can not see bullets because they do not light up. Have you ever seen tracer rounds? Bullets that light up making them viewable by the gunner. These are used in high powered gunds every ten or so rounds. But if you were to put a tracer in a machine gun. Anyways the subject is moot when the Force is with you. I'd be a great appolgist huh.
If bullets were like lightsabers where you could slash right through stuff then a lightsaber would definatly beat a bullet. But the only reason bullets are sometimes more effective than lightsabers is because of there speed. You have to constantly dodge bullets in order to hurt your oppenent, whereas when you're using lightsabers you can just hack and slash like a sword lol.
HAHAHA... You care about the same pointless statistic I do! XD (Your age difference in comparison to your primary fandom.) Except, with me, it's Transformers. :p
faster than a blaster bolt? who says? plus, as someone mentioned on facebook, the intense heat of the blade would vaporize some, if not all, of the bullet, depending on where it contacted. After all, the blade leaves a pretty big hole when Qui-gon uses it to cut a blast door...
If metal is melted by the touch alone then likely the bullet would simply melt. if not the bullet may pass through the beam thus sending melted shrapnel toward our Jedi. I it does not even have that effect it will simply pass through the light saber slightly warmed by the bullet.
There's a lot to consider. For one thing, we see lightsabers absorbing force lightning. To me that would indicate some kind of magnetism at work. So, would it attract some bullets to it, or are they moving too fast. Personally, I'd like to see a Jedi try to take on an Uzi. It's a non stop stream of projectile and I'm guessing they couldn't stop all of them. Plus, even if they could, the bullet is moving so fast I bet it would pass right through the lightsaber as a fast blob of hot lethal metal.
Unfortunately, I can't remember the exact sources (I think it was a West End games Sourcebook), but I remember a description that the "hue" of a lightsaber is a region so hot that a bullet would not split in half or even melt, but vaporize on impact.
The reason why slugthrowers were replaced by blasters is that a blaster can be charged with nearly any energysource, while slugthrowers require custom-made ammo. And the average baddie had a lot more chance running into a law-enforcer than a Jedi.
the problem with a light saber and according to the show the science of star wars is that they are very hot. they don't just cut things they melt metal{for those of you that don't remember check out the first star wars gain. when they close the blaste rdoors on the bridge. he doesn't use the light saber to cut the door he uses it to melt it. so if a bullet whrre to hit a light saber the jedi in question would end up with multent led all over them.
In a previous video, you stated a preference for SF which isn't limited by known science. This sort of lack of coherence is a direct result. Lucas thought it would be really cool if you could have a sort of "energy sword" and didn't bother coming up with an operating principle for it. The result is that speculating about what would happen if a bullet hit a light saber is rather like speculating about how Noah managed to distribute food to all those animals to keep them alive for 40 days.
What happens when light-saber meets bullet? KABOOM! That's why you gotta use a phaser or a phase rifle. Same result as with a light-saber, only way cooler :D
Light sabers can't be microscopic. Their brightness would be on a bell curve not a cylinder. Also, look how they cut clean edges through bulkheads. Just a thought.
I would suggest that the jedi could use the force to simply catch bullets, similar to the method Neo used in the matrix to stop and pluck bullets from the air. The Midichlorians have a lesser effect on light than they do on Physical objects I believe.
I really like Star Wars but I'm not too much of a geek for it.
That being said, I have to add that there are two things that I want to point out. The idea of the blade being microscopic sure sounds interesting but if you watch, for example, episode 1, when they cut the door at the beginning, the cuts (melds?) are the size of the "visible blade". Unless the radiation from the blade is that big, that wouldn't happen like that.
About the "catch half a bullet" thing, c'mon, they're jedis.
Blaster bolt technically traveled slower then an arrow if you look at the frames it take to reach for a bolt to reach its target. But I think that was done for two reasons; one being special effect skills and the other being dramatic effect. This happens in a lot of sci-fi; where everything is slow to 1/10 it actual speed just for the viewer. just bullet are harder to do without looking fake; that when the go matrix slow-mo style. So you have to compensate for that!
[more] even stuff like ships and fighters are slowed down in both movies and tv. star trek is the worse offender on this. but if they did them at real speed it would be all a blur for the viewer. the "newer" star wars movie did a better job at speeding up the blaster.
Also think of luke first training, Jedis are train to sense where the shots are going to be; without the force a Jedi is screwed!
Considering how quickly lightsabers seem to melt through metal, I always assumed a bullet being "blocked" would just end up being near molten shrapnel all over the jedi's face.
When you watch a lightsaber cut through something in the movies the cut it makes is consistent with the size that the blade looks like.
If that were the case then a bullet would be vaporized by a lightsaber but the knock down power should remain so I would think it would be the same with blocking a bullet with a sword in that even if you got the blade in front of the bullet it would still push the blade back possibly right into you.
If the blade was microscopic it would break into pieces and implant said pieces into intended victim.
A shotgun loaded with Buckshot would fire about 20 pellets at said Jedi and he could not possibly block them all.
A submachinegun would fire too many bullets for a Jedi to block.
Really the greatest asset a Jedi has is his/her ability to sense danger with a "the way leads to death and this other way leads to survival" kind of thing.
from an episode of "modern marvels"-"Star Wars Tech" I was under the impression a light saber was a plasma weapon, so one plasma weapon could deflect the burst from another plasma weapon. Depending on the type of metal the bullet was made of maybe the saber would just vaporize the metal? Or maybe in that Galaxy far far away they never had saltpeter (the explosive element of gunpowder)?
Star wars is set a long time ago, in a galaxy far away. It's possible that blaster bolts were developed before bullets, making guns like our early guns the less efficient weapon. For this reason, guns like the ones we use today never came to be, as their predecessors were never created. If this is true, they are in fact using the most efficient weapon they have against the Jedi.
To make sense of this, I would consider the Light saber to be a plasma stream. How hot does it get and what is the melting point or vaporization point of the metal used. Factor in how fast it is going and you have your answer. My best guess is that you would have to have a Light saber about half as hot as the surface of the sun to be able to completely vaporize a speeding bullet. That is still pretty damn hot to be holding in your hands so close to you.
maybe the blade is microscopic and the light it puts out is so hot that anything that gets near it, gets burned. kinda like how the sun is so hot that you can still be burned being MILES away. and to the bullets; maybe the bullets would dissolve coming near it. and maybe the plasma pullets or whatever the droids/storm troopers shoot have that same little blade in it but in bullet form. and they are so similar that they bounce off. what you think?
If someone hasn't already pointed it out Keight, look up the "Slugthrower" section of Wookieepedia. Among other things it mentions "For example, during the days of the Galactic Republic, mercenaries fearing an intervention by Jedi Knights used rapid-fire slugthrowers that were impossible to completely deflect, unlike blaster bolts."
As for me I don't see much advantage to Blasters in general and doubt in reality if slugthrowers would have been so fully replaced by them.
@BionicDance the light saber isn't microscopic....and if it is the beam of heat/energy around it would do enough to destroy or repel the bullet....probably melt it...
When they melt through the blast doors in episode 1 they create big melt holes the width of the blades, not microscopic ones....
@BionicDance perhaps they are...? Who is Timothy Zahn? Pardon my ignorance, but I'm a fan of the films... never read the books, although I've been told by many people that they are great. Was he the original author, or someone who wrote additional books?
I don't think that microscopic cuts makes much sense. SeekerfromAA below explains it... The energy around the beam would be strong enough to deflect/vaporise anything...
Also, they could have different settings... like headlamps...?
@Ravinian Well you didn't typically have armies of jedi fighting conflicts to warrant large scale production of weapons to get around lightsabers. Blasters may have been cheaper, easier to wield, lighter, etc.
@Ravinian Perhaps in the Star Wars Universe, Blasters are cheaper to produce. They'd also have a couple of significant advantages over slug throwers. Any kind of slug thrower is prone to jamming, there's also ammo to consider. Not just the bulk, but the weight of ammo a soldier or anyone else would need to carry.
@VinnyMonster1 Anyway, a type 2 phaser is far better than any blaster. Phaser shots actually do travel at lightspeed, not like the slower blaster bolts.
@Ravinian 'As for me I don't see much advantage to Blasters in general and doubt in reality if slugthrowers would have been so fully replaced by them.'
I'm guessing for the same reason that so many vehicles hover in Star Wars instead of using wheels; in a galaxy far, far away that is the cheapest, easiest to transport, and most readily maintained technology.
@Ravinian As i pointed out earleir slugthrowers are weak agaisnt body armour where blasters win. exempel a slugthrower would prob be stoped by a stormtrooper armour when a blaster cut right throw it. Body armours is good for kinetic damage made by bullets and shrapnels.
So best choice of weaponry would prob be a combi weapon that utilize both types of weaponry
Why did they use blaster bolts against Jedi instead of bullets? Well... The same reason why the Asgard didn't think of bullets against replicators... (Stargate SG-1, check the episode where Col. Carter is taken to the Asgard planet season 6-7 i think...) They lost that "simple" way of thinking... We humans do it too sometimes like when the microwave doesn't work we check for all sorts of problems only for someone else to come and show you it's not plugged in...
I don't know about bullets, they might not exist in a Star Wars galaxy. But I suppose the question would just as easily apply to an ewok with a spear :)
They already had blasters. Warfare is all about logistics. Do you know how hard it would be to replace all the blasters needed to kill jedi with solid projectile firing weapons?
Honestly....
...It wouldn't have been that hard, arguing that stuff in Sci-Fi makes sense is the like christian apologetics.
If a Light sabre does vaporise the whole bullet, it'll still have to deal with all the suddenly gaseous lead. That'd be an evil scheme, wipeout the Jedi with Heavy Metal poisoning
I have not heard of the movies you mentioned so I looked on WikiPedia. Holy crap.... there's more than one Star Wars movie. I need to apologize to a few people who talked about things in Star Wars that I insisted wasn't in the movie. Sheeeeit.
@BionicDance ; I spent 12 years working 15 hours a day in an enclosed cubicle in an office building, then 4 years sailing by myself, then 2.5 years living in a cave in Death Valley, then 8 years here at the ranch---- all without a television, nor much talking with people. I don't get out much. But at least I know what a light saber is!
@BionicDance ; I just now finished reading the WikiPedia article. It is confusing with chronology. The last I recall, someone told me that Han Solo had frozen to death in the Star Wars movie, which I insisted never happened. I will send away for the DVD: WikiPedia says there are six movies.
Given the second chance to live my life over, I would have participated in the world much more than I did.
I know the blade was microscopic, but isn't it also plasma? Plasma would be easier to contain than actual light. And because the blade is made of plasma, and plasma burns at such a high temperature, you would only need to deflect part of the bullet for it to melt. As for the reason they use energy, the blaster bolt, instead of bullets, it's just more futuristic looking and has a higher kill rate, I think(?). Not only is there a hole in your chest, there are burns.
It I would want to kill someone using the force and I needed to use a gun of sorts, I'd use a sonic disruptor. Can't really deflect that, and it can be an area effect weapon.
Getting hit by a bullet, even a glowing, divided one, would probably killa Jedi... But Jedi kan catch physical objects with the Force.I figure that the trained Jedi kan do some catch-all levitation on front of themselves to protect against bullets and similar physical objects. While a blaster shot is in the world, and thus contains Force, it is not really physical, and so can't be stopped like that. We also see some forcefields in the SW universe, they can be overloaded only by heavy firepower.
Bullets are no problem for a lightsaber because it operates only in conjunction with the Force, which will atomize and disperse the bullet(s). How? Because the Force works in mysterious ways ( Hey the religious get away with this explanation.)
@douglet55 Gotta argue the whole "lightsaber works only in conjunction with the Force". I can't remember what book it was, I want to say one of the Republic Commando books, but a non-Force user has used a lightsaber.
According to what i've noticed in Star Wars physics any projectile cut by by a lightsaber will split and be deflected to either side of the lightsaber wielder and i would guess a bullet would do the same if not vaporized ;)
I heard that light sabers worked by used a powerful magnetic field to trap photons within a certain range. I'd guess the heat of a light saber would instantly turn a bullet in to plasma but I could be wrong. Have you seen a katana vs a pistol before? They split bullets clean in half.
@BionicDance right, I saw that other coment you left, I had forgotten that, sorry, but that leaves another interesting question, how the heck do the lightsabre reflect the plasma?
If it was a laser bolt, it would reflect of the blade, but if it is a plasma, it has mass, same as a bullet, and therefore, for it to change direction, needs to be countered with force in that dicection, and jedi almost never do more than raise the blade into the path of the bolt
@BionicDance and its not like the plasma is a solid entity, it would probbably be scattered, not deflected.
Im beginning to suspect that one, as a starwars fan (I am) probbably should not (ok, ok, I am a nerd...) think about this too much, since it will make less and less sense, the more you dig into it
The amour that is commonly used in the seris was to tough for bullets that why it was abandoned. I lightsaber blade sure is not a blade but a field of contained atoms hotter then the surface of a sun the field prevents the heat from escapeing and only gets out when it some hits the field.
At the speeds the bullet is traveling, even if the entire bullet was caught in the beam, it wouldn't destroy the bullet. The Jedi in this case would get splashed with molten metal and be susceptible to further attack even if only for a moment. This is just another one of those hundreds of inconsistencies that turned me away from SW.
slugthrowers as the bullet using weapons are called in Star Wars can be blocked by lightsabers and turn the bullet to ionized gas that evaporate so they cant be reflected back. In the shot-them up game star wars could slugthrowers and flechete weapons be reflected but old school rollplaying game version of Star Wars was the rule above used for slugthrowers. Slugthrowers are worthless against armoured opponents as stormtroopers so it is a reason they arent used in war by any modern army
You just blew my mind. Great observation. I always thought about how bright they glow would give away a persons position very quickly. Not that great of a battle tool but I love the movies anyway.
There was a game while back called Jedi Academy where you could do multiplayer battles with players you can use just sabers and force powers or various weapons. best weapon was the gun that could launch super-heated metal bits- basically a shrapnel gun worked great against the saber becuse it couldn't block all of it. the only way a jedi could defend is by force pushing the bits so with bullets if a jedi was good enough s/he could react with his super human reflexes and push the bullets back.
The heat required to evaporate the bullet that quickly would be enough to set the user on fire. More likely, no one could be in the room without getting cooked like a chicken. I take it the saber's handle is made from magic metal so it doesn't melt, plus there is a magic barrier that traps all the heat energy inside the "blade" area. Isn't magic great?
Why blasters: in Fallout 2, energy guns fire super heated plasma. So it's matter that can melt through otherwise bullet proof materials.
@MrStillmans Yeah but from the blast doors ect they do seem to be in the "blades sphere" Otherwise the heat it'self would case hand burning ect id imagine? Then again don't the blades only damage when it hits something and is otherwise not putting though the energy to hurt? (wookipedia?)
You'll notice that in Ep. 1: PM, Quagon and Kenobi were slicing through that one vault door rather slowly. It was ray shielded or something... anyways the hole that Q was making was relative to the width of the visible light. Say about 3 cm on average. So even if the sourse is a hair's bredth thick, the actual heat effect is significantly larger. Thus supposing that the Jedi can block the bullet's path with the beam, the bullet (anything short of artillery) would vapourize and scorch his robe.
Have you seen Stargate season 3 finally, The Asgard can no longer think of simple tech like modern day guns, even thou they are better at fighting there biggest enemy.
Bullets have to be manufactured. Energy weapon magazines can be recharged with electricity. It would be an economic decision, IMHO. A microscopic surface doesn't make sense if you can deflect a blaster bolt, picture trying to block an arrow with a length of (indestructible) sewing thread.
Surely a Jedi would use the force to deflect projectiles weapons I.E. stuff with mass. That would explain why they return service on blaster shots. Plus it looks cool!
Without using force powers, the bullet might melt but still the metal would go through as a spray of glowing hot fluid *ouch*
If the bullet was stopped or reflected, that impuls would be hard to handle and painfull. So the best explanation would be: Force is envolved.
But only the sand people on tatooine do have projectile weapons. I guess they were banned form space travel since some idiots shot holes int the hull of the vessel ^^
Lightsabers should never have been able to deflect blasters. It's pure si-fi. It was something cool and that's all it ever was. With bullets, the heat would vaporise the bullets so they could work. If you could hit the bullet.
The bullet is spinning very rapidly so you'd end up with at least two pieces of corkscrewing metal coming your way. I say at least two because some bullets are made to disentigrate on impact and may fragment from passsing through the light saber beam?
@bionicdance light beams would be even less likely to hit one another, especially if it is only the circumference of a photon. Even if they were thicker the radiation needed for them to actually reflect all the incoming beam would be to bright and hot to even be close to I would surmise.
I'm guessing the speed and visibility of a bullet isn't much of a problem for a trained jedi. As Qui-Gon said: "He can see things before they happen. That's why he appears to have such quick reflexes." As for what would happen to the bullet, I'm guessing it would be vaporized. About the actual blade being microscopic, I havn't heard that before, but the effect seems to be wider. That said, I still think that bullets are a better way to go, since you don't risk it will bounce back at you :)
I simply say if you have the force then bullets lose. For instance Addi Ventress in the animated and obi wan both used the force to block bullets or shred those that fired said bullets or if you would prefer movie demonstrations then there is Darth Vader who again uses the force but on blaster bolts in cloud city so a bit dodgy but something to think about. Then there are the games like the force unleashed which granted raped the franchise but main dude stops bullets with his lightsaber.
Maybe bullets don't exist in the Star Wars universe, seeing as how far away and long ago it all happened. (And it's obviously all true, I've seen a book about it so it must be real)
Even if the saber blade is microscopic, it seems to ionize the air (or other stuff, like molten metal) a few millimeters around it, so maybe it's the saber »energy« providing the color and the plasma around it making it glow. (Remember Qui-Gon Jinn in Phantom Menace melting the door to the ship's bridge?) And maybe bullets could vaporize in the hot plasma alone.
Oh well. How did Joss Whedon put it in Serenity? »It's a mooovie!«
I'm not a well versed in the starwars technicalities by any stretch of the imagination BUT...
1. A Jedi deflects a blaster(which is hell of a lot faster than a bullet) by predicting where it will be(Think of Kwigon catching Jaja's tongue) and moving his blade accordingly.
2. I guess the blade has an intense electromagnetic field around it. Electromagnetism is one hell of a force, it can easily deflect objects.
3. Bullets don't always kill, blasters are(theoretically) much more powerful.
acordin to what i heard , light sabers are bolts of plasma kept is shape in a force contament field makeing them pretty much the size you see them a,s if a jedi can deflect a botlt of plasmer , or a laser with this then a bullet would be vaporized as soon as it came into contact with the light saber .
A better way to kill a Jedi would have to be a flame thrower. Let watch Yoda try to out jump that. In Star wars battle front 2. One of the clone trooper classes was armed with what liked like a minigun
Assuming that wookieepedia and the like are right and standard blaster bolts are plasma and laser mixed together, why would you assume that bullets travel faster?
Lasers go with the speed of light and plasma can be accelerated using electric fields for instance.
The thickness of the blade doesn't really matter as the hole made by lightsabers is roughly the 'large' area you see. The problem is, is the kinetic energy of the bullet dissipated? Else you'd have super hot liquid or gas coming trough.
Wait, I never understood this: blasters shoot particles. Are somewhat similar to lasers. They should be going lightspeed, and you shouldn't even be seeing them. How are they slower than projectiles?
Interesting question BD. I remember seeing Obi Wan and Qui-Gon use a light sabre to cut through a blast door in episode 1. Assuming you had awesome ninja jedi skills it would either vaporize the bullet or melt it. Even if it didn't kill you getting a face-full of molten or vaporized lead wouldn't be fun. Also jedi seem to be able to move objects with their minds. So if a jedi saw that you had a gun he might be able to stop the bullets mid flight.
I would assume that if said Lightsaber wielder were to catch the bullet in his or her beam one of two things would happen. 1: The bullet would melt and said wielder would catch molten lead, or 2: The molten lead would evaporate. Of course this all depends on how close to the actual "blade" the bullet came, if I remember correctly, in Shadows of the Empire they described some sort of conductors that kept the heat from the blade in check.
Forget machine-guns. If Dart Maul had been packing a doublre barrel sawn-off shotgun he would have taken out Obi-Wan as well, and not Qui-Gon. What would that have done to the story arc.
I have a theory on lightsabers. It is a lazer beam restricted by a shield. Most people do not realize there are different types of shields. This one reflects energy "inclulding the lazer inside" but allows matter to pass through. That is why it will melt metal and not bounce off. If I am right then the bullet would hit the lazer beam melt and you would have a slow moving peice of slag comming at you. My theory is as elegent as a lightsaber.
CapQuacer 1 month ago
why did they use blaster bolts instead of bullets.... you cannot see bullets when thay fly at you... those blasters seem extremely ineffective.
doombybbr 1 month ago
In Jedi Academy and Jedi Outcast, the best gun for killing a saber-user is the Flechette gun, which presumably shoots...solid projectiles. Hmmmm!
evilotakuneko 1 month ago
IMO, the lightsaber would vaporize the bullet. When we see them cutting through metal, it`s always some high density compound, made to withstand punishment. Something a bullet is not. And I think that a Jedi would predict the bulet`s trajectory. AND there are other tricks they could use to defend themselves.
moonlightavenger 1 month ago
I think youtube has vids of samurai swords (katanas) cutting or blocking bullets or something like that? Might wanna check out some of those to get ideas.
Mithcoriel 1 month ago
Tusken Raiders fire Tusken Cycler rifles which are classified as "slugthrowers"
- "The cycler was an older design of rifle and fitted into the Slugthrower class, firing solid shots enveloped in energy, not blaster bolts."
and in the game "Jedi Power Battles" the shots can be deflected with a lightsaber..
so in my opinion a bullet could be either deflected or (not being enveloped in energy) vaporized.. *shrugs*
Polum824545201 1 month ago
Kate, what might happen is the bullet might become liquefied upon contact with the lightsaber's blade. and you might have tiny blobs of molten metal fly off. If a bullet hit the blade close enough to the hilt, the Jedi could be burned from the resultant hot blobs of metal flying out and hitting them.
TranscendentBiscuit 1 month ago
lol, true...but maybe kinetic energy weapons are a foreign concept to the star wars universe.
NateH2121 1 month ago
Shotgun blast FTW!
ReefThinker 1 month ago
While lightsabers cut metal they cut fairly slow, therefore the bullet might half melt before hitting the jedi at hundreds of miles per hour. Also maybe most cultures in that universe developed the blaster bolt before making gun powder, and never bothered developing other projectiles.
cybermousk 1 month ago
In the non-cannonical (I think) Splinter of the Mind's Eye by Alan Dean Foster, Luke fiddles with controls on the bottom of his lightsabre to narrow the beam down to a knife edge to ... cut through some door bolt or something as quietly as possible. So if that's true, then the sabre blade is actually adjustable and might really be "wide" for "normal" use. Disclaimer: I read that book in ... 6th grade (maybe 7th), and that's more decades ago than I care to remember.
jagmarz 1 month ago
@jagmarz *non-canonical (please don't shoot me!)
jagmarz 1 month ago
Because the sound of an explosion traveling in the void of the space sells better.
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Maybe it was in one of the novels - `course I don`t know if you read any of them (just tryin` to help).
On the effectiveness of bullets thing - you might be onto something here. Consider how well the Tau`ri projectile-based weaponry works against the "superior" technology of the Goa`uld (and Wraith - for the Atlantis fans) on the Stargate series.
Hell, we might actually stand a chance if we`re ever invaded - just sayin` (see Battle: Los Angelos for another example).
steveb0503 1 month ago
If blaster bolts can make cool sounds in space, they can probably do all kinds of crap. But hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good assault rifle at your side.
tctheunbeliever 1 month ago
@BionicDance OK from a shooter see if you can follow bullet traveling in Direction A spinning at 160000RPM would be turned into the equal of Sprial onion from hungry jacks in shape times 2 pieces still traveling at say 2600 feet per second in direction A ---> Equals 1 Dead Jedi.
vince38curious2 1 month ago
Jedi don't need to block bullets with their blades, because the force can alter the trajectory of bullets.
BTW Don't the Tusken Raiders use bullets?
funningincircles 1 month ago
Can I just ask how it is supposed to make sense that a blaster bolt would deflect off of a lightsaber blade? I'm pretty sure if the blade is microscopic then the exact same thing would happen with blaster bolts than with bullets, it would split in two and still hurtle towards the target.
MrMyers758 1 month ago
Have you ever seen Sci Fi scence? in one of the episodes Dr. Michio Kaku explains how to make a real lightsaber idk i thought it was interesting... if you have not seen it here you go /watch?v=xSNubaa7n9o
someguy9401 1 month ago
I would definitely say though the blade is microscopic; just like the light emitted, the intense heat generated by the blade would occupy an area larger than the blade, probably about the same area as the visible light.
I'd wager this heat could vaporise a bullet. : )
itishere 1 month ago
@itishere ... and the Jedi's hands...
jagmarz 1 month ago
I would venture that if you were strong enough with the force, that your light saber would be guided to effectively counter the bullet, however it was required.
dmeson 1 month ago
Bullet would melt. The sabers are round-shaped, and very hot.
What I actually proposed as a Jedi-killing weapon would be the ultimate shotgun.
Shotguns are basically the same "bullet splits into two" story, but the split is already done, and the spread makes it so it can't be blocked.
I suggested magnetic shields are easier to build and carry. The invention of those shields made bullets useless, which in turn made the shields useless because nobody used bullets anymore.
Xgya2000 1 month ago
well, think about when qui-gon cut the door on the trade federation ship, the slice was the size of the actual physical prop blade used in filming.
neomp5 1 month ago
I think a lightsaber vibrates so much that should a bullet hit it, it will simply bounce off because of the intence vibration.
FlaggedStar 1 month ago
@FlaggedStar
i don't think it's that it vibrates. i think it's a stream of particles. like how a chainsaw works, but with the teeth being tiny particles, moving up the core and down the outside in a loop. the damage it does looks more like friction damage than a simple burning, especially with the sparks it throws. this would also explain why the blades tend to repel each other on contact.
neomp5 1 month ago
if you watch my "brandon vs chris" video, i was thinking in these terms when i put the sounds to their video, matiching the bouncing and grinding sounds with the motions, and adding a squeak to the blades as they slide along each other.
neomp5 1 month ago
actually, a bullet would travel slower than a blaster bolt. Blaster bolt is going at light speed.
rednecktrucker1969 1 month ago
@rednecktrucker1969 No, it isn't. If it were, we wouldn't even see it, and it sure as hell wouldn't look like it does in the films.
BionicDance 1 month ago 4
@BionicDance well then, what is a blaster bolt made of, if not light? (pardon my ignorance)
rednecktrucker1969 1 month ago
@rednecktrucker1969 Plasma, IIRC.
BionicDance 1 month ago
Nevermind of course the heat from plasma should burn the shooter with its intense heat emission the moment it comes out of the weapon but hey details.
NetraAmorosi 1 month ago
@BionicDance Yup, according to Wookiepedia the blaster bolt is passed through Tibanna gas to produce a bolt of plasma.
geeknotnerd 1 month ago
@BionicDance It depends on how it hits it I guess -parallel or perpendicular to the blade. Though a Jedi with Force instincts could probably reflexively deflect it the right way.
JohananRaatz 1 month ago
@BionicDance wrong, we can not see bullets because they do not light up. Have you ever seen tracer rounds? Bullets that light up making them viewable by the gunner. These are used in high powered gunds every ten or so rounds. But if you were to put a tracer in a machine gun. Anyways the subject is moot when the Force is with you. I'd be a great appolgist huh.
CapQuacer 1 month ago
If bullets were like lightsabers where you could slash right through stuff then a lightsaber would definatly beat a bullet. But the only reason bullets are sometimes more effective than lightsabers is because of there speed. You have to constantly dodge bullets in order to hurt your oppenent, whereas when you're using lightsabers you can just hack and slash like a sword lol.
BlackDynamite702 1 month ago
HAHAHA... You care about the same pointless statistic I do! XD (Your age difference in comparison to your primary fandom.) Except, with me, it's Transformers. :p
ShadeC4 1 month ago
faster than a blaster bolt? who says? plus, as someone mentioned on facebook, the intense heat of the blade would vaporize some, if not all, of the bullet, depending on where it contacted. After all, the blade leaves a pretty big hole when Qui-gon uses it to cut a blast door...
endergt 1 month ago
If metal is melted by the touch alone then likely the bullet would simply melt. if not the bullet may pass through the beam thus sending melted shrapnel toward our Jedi. I it does not even have that effect it will simply pass through the light saber slightly warmed by the bullet.
themiddleman009 1 month ago
There's a lot to consider. For one thing, we see lightsabers absorbing force lightning. To me that would indicate some kind of magnetism at work. So, would it attract some bullets to it, or are they moving too fast. Personally, I'd like to see a Jedi try to take on an Uzi. It's a non stop stream of projectile and I'm guessing they couldn't stop all of them. Plus, even if they could, the bullet is moving so fast I bet it would pass right through the lightsaber as a fast blob of hot lethal metal.
dannypantsgm 1 month ago
Unfortunately, I can't remember the exact sources (I think it was a West End games Sourcebook), but I remember a description that the "hue" of a lightsaber is a region so hot that a bullet would not split in half or even melt, but vaporize on impact.
The reason why slugthrowers were replaced by blasters is that a blaster can be charged with nearly any energysource, while slugthrowers require custom-made ammo. And the average baddie had a lot more chance running into a law-enforcer than a Jedi.
SeekerFromAA 1 month ago
I am not so sure a bullet travels faster than a blaster bolt. If you watch tracer bullets, they look a lot like blaster bolts.
On the idea that the light from the saber is microscopic, then why would they opening for said light be so wide.
Food for though,
and May the Force be with you.
StarEstesXandra 1 month ago
Star Wars is SOOOOOOOOO 1977.
smartarse001 1 month ago
hard to believe a bullet is faster then a beam of light
dracuel 1 month ago
the problem with a light saber and according to the show the science of star wars is that they are very hot. they don't just cut things they melt metal{for those of you that don't remember check out the first star wars gain. when they close the blaste rdoors on the bridge. he doesn't use the light saber to cut the door he uses it to melt it. so if a bullet whrre to hit a light saber the jedi in question would end up with multent led all over them.
eyezerocool 1 month ago in playlist More videos from BionicDance
Its simple. What fun would that be! :D
Mauler85 1 month ago
Have you ever seen this: watch?v=xSNubaa7n9o ?
Its pretty cool
BeautifulTruthShow 1 month ago
@BeautifulTruthShow Just saw it this morning.
BionicDance 1 month ago
In a previous video, you stated a preference for SF which isn't limited by known science. This sort of lack of coherence is a direct result. Lucas thought it would be really cool if you could have a sort of "energy sword" and didn't bother coming up with an operating principle for it. The result is that speculating about what would happen if a bullet hit a light saber is rather like speculating about how Noah managed to distribute food to all those animals to keep them alive for 40 days.
CombinatorialImplosi 1 month ago
What happens when light-saber meets bullet? KABOOM! That's why you gotta use a phaser or a phase rifle. Same result as with a light-saber, only way cooler :D
beetlecommathe 1 month ago
Light sabers can't be microscopic. Their brightness would be on a bell curve not a cylinder. Also, look how they cut clean edges through bulkheads. Just a thought.
TheCraich 1 month ago
You are forget the FORCE!!!
cheddar07 1 month ago
What if the marksman shot the Jedi's hand?
VinnyMonster1 1 month ago
dig the warp tunnel effect.
bhank21 1 month ago
I would suggest that the jedi could use the force to simply catch bullets, similar to the method Neo used in the matrix to stop and pluck bullets from the air. The Midichlorians have a lesser effect on light than they do on Physical objects I believe.
thedaveparadox 1 month ago
1. Wouldn't it be more likely that the bullet would melt and splash molten metal all over the target?
2. If you can lift large objects using The Force, surely you can alter the path of a bullet just enough so it misses you.
zhono 1 month ago
I really like Star Wars but I'm not too much of a geek for it.
That being said, I have to add that there are two things that I want to point out. The idea of the blade being microscopic sure sounds interesting but if you watch, for example, episode 1, when they cut the door at the beginning, the cuts (melds?) are the size of the "visible blade". Unless the radiation from the blade is that big, that wouldn't happen like that.
About the "catch half a bullet" thing, c'mon, they're jedis.
sadrequiem 1 month ago
Blaster bolt technically traveled slower then an arrow if you look at the frames it take to reach for a bolt to reach its target. But I think that was done for two reasons; one being special effect skills and the other being dramatic effect. This happens in a lot of sci-fi; where everything is slow to 1/10 it actual speed just for the viewer. just bullet are harder to do without looking fake; that when the go matrix slow-mo style. So you have to compensate for that!
opaldragon75 1 month ago
[more] even stuff like ships and fighters are slowed down in both movies and tv. star trek is the worse offender on this. but if they did them at real speed it would be all a blur for the viewer. the "newer" star wars movie did a better job at speeding up the blaster.
Also think of luke first training, Jedis are train to sense where the shots are going to be; without the force a Jedi is screwed!
opaldragon75 1 month ago
I just remembered....aren't you taking martial arts? Why are you so interested in fictional weapons?
thereforeithought 1 month ago
Considering how quickly lightsabers seem to melt through metal, I always assumed a bullet being "blocked" would just end up being near molten shrapnel all over the jedi's face.
TheStoasterRisen 1 month ago
Part 1
When you watch a lightsaber cut through something in the movies the cut it makes is consistent with the size that the blade looks like.
If that were the case then a bullet would be vaporized by a lightsaber but the knock down power should remain so I would think it would be the same with blocking a bullet with a sword in that even if you got the blade in front of the bullet it would still push the blade back possibly right into you.
(cont.)
flammamancer 1 month ago
Part 2
If the blade was microscopic it would break into pieces and implant said pieces into intended victim.
A shotgun loaded with Buckshot would fire about 20 pellets at said Jedi and he could not possibly block them all.
A submachinegun would fire too many bullets for a Jedi to block.
Really the greatest asset a Jedi has is his/her ability to sense danger with a "the way leads to death and this other way leads to survival" kind of thing.
(cont.)
flammamancer 1 month ago
Part 3
Without the danger sense its just a matter of time before the Jedi gets caught in an explosion, eaten by some space dragon or just has bad luck.
(End.)
flammamancer 1 month ago
IF the blaster bolt is light it should travel right through but a bullet could be vaporized. Lets face it it is just special effects.
EmmittBrownBTTF1 1 month ago
lol i've always been thinking about that
ChinnuWoW 1 month ago
This kind of thing has been bugging for me for years
GraberStone 1 month ago
from an episode of "modern marvels"-"Star Wars Tech" I was under the impression a light saber was a plasma weapon, so one plasma weapon could deflect the burst from another plasma weapon. Depending on the type of metal the bullet was made of maybe the saber would just vaporize the metal? Or maybe in that Galaxy far far away they never had saltpeter (the explosive element of gunpowder)?
RavenBlaze 1 month ago
Star wars is set a long time ago, in a galaxy far away. It's possible that blaster bolts were developed before bullets, making guns like our early guns the less efficient weapon. For this reason, guns like the ones we use today never came to be, as their predecessors were never created. If this is true, they are in fact using the most efficient weapon they have against the Jedi.
Oicurmtoyoy 1 month ago
To make sense of this, I would consider the Light saber to be a plasma stream. How hot does it get and what is the melting point or vaporization point of the metal used. Factor in how fast it is going and you have your answer. My best guess is that you would have to have a Light saber about half as hot as the surface of the sun to be able to completely vaporize a speeding bullet. That is still pretty damn hot to be holding in your hands so close to you.
TheAtheistPaladin 1 month ago
I hope you have multiple nerdgasms over this. MTFBWYT.
thereforeithought 1 month ago
...and this ladies and gentlemen is how theology came to be.
Skoenner 1 month ago
Also you could probably just pull a Neo and force push/ manipulate the bullets trajectory.
Portlandhardstylers 1 month ago
This occurred to me as well, I'd go up against a light saber in a heart beat if I had my 12 gauge magnum with 000 shot....
Moontanman 1 month ago
Wouldn't the ambient heat of the corona melt the bullet?
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Portlandhardstylers 1 month ago
maybe the blade is microscopic and the light it puts out is so hot that anything that gets near it, gets burned. kinda like how the sun is so hot that you can still be burned being MILES away. and to the bullets; maybe the bullets would dissolve coming near it. and maybe the plasma pullets or whatever the droids/storm troopers shoot have that same little blade in it but in bullet form. and they are so similar that they bounce off. what you think?
pumpkinq123 1 month ago
If someone hasn't already pointed it out Keight, look up the "Slugthrower" section of Wookieepedia. Among other things it mentions "For example, during the days of the Galactic Republic, mercenaries fearing an intervention by Jedi Knights used rapid-fire slugthrowers that were impossible to completely deflect, unlike blaster bolts."
As for me I don't see much advantage to Blasters in general and doubt in reality if slugthrowers would have been so fully replaced by them.
Ravinian 1 month ago 3
@Ravinian Ah! No, I hadn't seen that. Well spotted! :)
BionicDance 1 month ago
@BionicDance the light saber isn't microscopic....and if it is the beam of heat/energy around it would do enough to destroy or repel the bullet....probably melt it...
When they melt through the blast doors in episode 1 they create big melt holes the width of the blades, not microscopic ones....
ummmerrrrummm 1 month ago
@ummmerrrrummm Read the Thrawn trilogy by Timothy Zahn; lightsaber cuts are described as microscopic.
BionicDance 1 month ago
@BionicDance perhaps they are...? Who is Timothy Zahn? Pardon my ignorance, but I'm a fan of the films... never read the books, although I've been told by many people that they are great. Was he the original author, or someone who wrote additional books?
I don't think that microscopic cuts makes much sense. SeekerfromAA below explains it... The energy around the beam would be strong enough to deflect/vaporise anything...
Also, they could have different settings... like headlamps...?
ummmerrrrummm 1 month ago
@Ravinian Well you didn't typically have armies of jedi fighting conflicts to warrant large scale production of weapons to get around lightsabers. Blasters may have been cheaper, easier to wield, lighter, etc.
TheStoasterRisen 1 month ago
@Ravinian Perhaps in the Star Wars Universe, Blasters are cheaper to produce. They'd also have a couple of significant advantages over slug throwers. Any kind of slug thrower is prone to jamming, there's also ammo to consider. Not just the bulk, but the weight of ammo a soldier or anyone else would need to carry.
VinnyMonster1 1 month ago
@VinnyMonster1 Anyway, a type 2 phaser is far better than any blaster. Phaser shots actually do travel at lightspeed, not like the slower blaster bolts.
VinnyMonster1 1 month ago
@Ravinian 'As for me I don't see much advantage to Blasters in general and doubt in reality if slugthrowers would have been so fully replaced by them.'
I'm guessing for the same reason that so many vehicles hover in Star Wars instead of using wheels; in a galaxy far, far away that is the cheapest, easiest to transport, and most readily maintained technology.
AndrewTheEternal 1 month ago
@Ravinian As i pointed out earleir slugthrowers are weak agaisnt body armour where blasters win. exempel a slugthrower would prob be stoped by a stormtrooper armour when a blaster cut right throw it. Body armours is good for kinetic damage made by bullets and shrapnels.
So best choice of weaponry would prob be a combi weapon that utilize both types of weaponry
Gripen1974 1 month ago
Why did they use blaster bolts against Jedi instead of bullets? Well... The same reason why the Asgard didn't think of bullets against replicators... (Stargate SG-1, check the episode where Col. Carter is taken to the Asgard planet season 6-7 i think...) They lost that "simple" way of thinking... We humans do it too sometimes like when the microwave doesn't work we check for all sorts of problems only for someone else to come and show you it's not plugged in...
TheMetalHead102 1 month ago
okay, solid projectiles are deflected using the Force.
fucking padowan.
gothatfunk 1 month ago
I don't know about bullets, they might not exist in a Star Wars galaxy. But I suppose the question would just as easily apply to an ewok with a spear :)
tnordloh 1 month ago
They already had blasters. Warfare is all about logistics. Do you know how hard it would be to replace all the blasters needed to kill jedi with solid projectile firing weapons?
Honestly....
...It wouldn't have been that hard, arguing that stuff in Sci-Fi makes sense is the like christian apologetics.
If a Light sabre does vaporise the whole bullet, it'll still have to deal with all the suddenly gaseous lead. That'd be an evil scheme, wipeout the Jedi with Heavy Metal poisoning
TheBoyFromNorfolk 1 month ago
I have not heard of the movies you mentioned so I looked on WikiPedia. Holy crap.... there's more than one Star Wars movie. I need to apologize to a few people who talked about things in Star Wars that I insisted wasn't in the movie. Sheeeeit.
Desertphile 1 month ago
@Desertphile ...seriously? *raised eyebrow*
BionicDance 1 month ago
@BionicDance ; I spent 12 years working 15 hours a day in an enclosed cubicle in an office building, then 4 years sailing by myself, then 2.5 years living in a cave in Death Valley, then 8 years here at the ranch---- all without a television, nor much talking with people. I don't get out much. But at least I know what a light saber is!
Desertphile 1 month ago
@Desertphile Wow...okay, go get yourself a DVD player and the Star Wars Saga, boy!
BionicDance 1 month ago
@BionicDance ; I just now finished reading the WikiPedia article. It is confusing with chronology. The last I recall, someone told me that Han Solo had frozen to death in the Star Wars movie, which I insisted never happened. I will send away for the DVD: WikiPedia says there are six movies.
Given the second chance to live my life over, I would have participated in the world much more than I did.
Desertphile 1 month ago
@Desertphile Han Solo didn't exactly freeze to death...but he WAS frozen. Kind of.
And...understandable. Though given my choice, I'd leave this world and never come back. If I had my own spaceship, I mean.
BionicDance 1 month ago
@BionicDance ; "Though given my choice, I'd leave this world and never come back."
I hope you never get your wish: shunning humanity some times comes at a terrible price.
Desertphile 1 month ago
@Desertphile Oh, it's not so much shunning humanity as it is seeing the universe, not being limited to Earth.
BionicDance 1 month ago
Looking at source material, how much matter does it look like a lightsaber vaporizes when used for cutting?
As for hitting a speeding bullet out of the air... welll... Force User. ^_^
NekuraCa 1 month ago
NERDS
Benobo1t 1 month ago
@Benobo1t And we're ALL proud of it.
HimesInu 1 month ago
he would get hit by molten pieces of metal. Any existing body armour would be able to block that
anninhilator 1 month ago
Lightsabers beat bulletproof stormtrooper armor, it'll probably vaporize it in thin air.
jaymthegenius 1 month ago
I know the blade was microscopic, but isn't it also plasma? Plasma would be easier to contain than actual light. And because the blade is made of plasma, and plasma burns at such a high temperature, you would only need to deflect part of the bullet for it to melt. As for the reason they use energy, the blaster bolt, instead of bullets, it's just more futuristic looking and has a higher kill rate, I think(?). Not only is there a hole in your chest, there are burns.
HimesInu 1 month ago
It I would want to kill someone using the force and I needed to use a gun of sorts, I'd use a sonic disruptor. Can't really deflect that, and it can be an area effect weapon.
But that's just me....
Mglosk 1 month ago
you could just use the force.
lxAgnosticxl 1 month ago
Getting hit by a bullet, even a glowing, divided one, would probably killa Jedi... But Jedi kan catch physical objects with the Force.I figure that the trained Jedi kan do some catch-all levitation on front of themselves to protect against bullets and similar physical objects. While a blaster shot is in the world, and thus contains Force, it is not really physical, and so can't be stopped like that. We also see some forcefields in the SW universe, they can be overloaded only by heavy firepower.
Kasarii 1 month ago
Bullets are no problem for a lightsaber because it operates only in conjunction with the Force, which will atomize and disperse the bullet(s). How? Because the Force works in mysterious ways ( Hey the religious get away with this explanation.)
douglet55 1 month ago 2
@douglet55 Gotta argue the whole "lightsaber works only in conjunction with the Force". I can't remember what book it was, I want to say one of the Republic Commando books, but a non-Force user has used a lightsaber.
HimesInu 1 month ago
I'm gonna say the bullet would melt. That seems to be the reaction any metal has to a lightsaber, the droids and the door from Episode 1.
azcandace 1 month ago
Wouldn't it be easier for the Jedi to just Matrix the bullet(s) to a stop?
squirreljester2 1 month ago
@BionicDance a powerful Jedi would simply use "Force Push" to send all the bullets right back at whomever fired them.
TheAstrobleme 1 month ago
According to what i've noticed in Star Wars physics any projectile cut by by a lightsaber will split and be deflected to either side of the lightsaber wielder and i would guess a bullet would do the same if not vaporized ;)
Psyessence 1 month ago
I heard that light sabers worked by used a powerful magnetic field to trap photons within a certain range. I'd guess the heat of a light saber would instantly turn a bullet in to plasma but I could be wrong. Have you seen a katana vs a pistol before? They split bullets clean in half.
YesIamJames 1 month ago
Uuuuuuuuuuum, BD, a bullet traveling faster than the speed of light? did you realy think that through?
IVscythia 1 month ago
@IVscythia Blasters are not lasers.
BionicDance 1 month ago
@BionicDance right, I saw that other coment you left, I had forgotten that, sorry, but that leaves another interesting question, how the heck do the lightsabre reflect the plasma?
If it was a laser bolt, it would reflect of the blade, but if it is a plasma, it has mass, same as a bullet, and therefore, for it to change direction, needs to be countered with force in that dicection, and jedi almost never do more than raise the blade into the path of the bolt
IVscythia 1 month ago
@BionicDance and its not like the plasma is a solid entity, it would probbably be scattered, not deflected.
Im beginning to suspect that one, as a starwars fan (I am) probbably should not (ok, ok, I am a nerd...) think about this too much, since it will make less and less sense, the more you dig into it
IVscythia 1 month ago
The bullet is vaporised, , the same way metal is vaporised/melted when a lightsabre cuts through a metal sheet or smth
IVscythia 1 month ago
The amour that is commonly used in the seris was to tough for bullets that why it was abandoned. I lightsaber blade sure is not a blade but a field of contained atoms hotter then the surface of a sun the field prevents the heat from escapeing and only gets out when it some hits the field.
099923257457 1 month ago
At the speeds the bullet is traveling, even if the entire bullet was caught in the beam, it wouldn't destroy the bullet. The Jedi in this case would get splashed with molten metal and be susceptible to further attack even if only for a moment. This is just another one of those hundreds of inconsistencies that turned me away from SW.
CMRDIvan 1 month ago
slugthrowers as the bullet using weapons are called in Star Wars can be blocked by lightsabers and turn the bullet to ionized gas that evaporate so they cant be reflected back. In the shot-them up game star wars could slugthrowers and flechete weapons be reflected but old school rollplaying game version of Star Wars was the rule above used for slugthrowers. Slugthrowers are worthless against armoured opponents as stormtroopers so it is a reason they arent used in war by any modern army
Gripen1974 1 month ago
i dont think i have seen any projectile based guns there
meybe they didn't invent them
adirm18 1 month ago
You just blew my mind. Great observation. I always thought about how bright they glow would give away a persons position very quickly. Not that great of a battle tool but I love the movies anyway.
LupusLife 1 month ago
thermal detonators work even better against lightsabers but they cause a lot of damage.
concord327 1 month ago
also lightsaber blades are adjustable and may vary in size and intensity.
concord327 1 month ago
There was a game while back called Jedi Academy where you could do multiplayer battles with players you can use just sabers and force powers or various weapons. best weapon was the gun that could launch super-heated metal bits- basically a shrapnel gun worked great against the saber becuse it couldn't block all of it. the only way a jedi could defend is by force pushing the bits so with bullets if a jedi was good enough s/he could react with his super human reflexes and push the bullets back.
concord327 1 month ago
The heat required to evaporate the bullet that quickly would be enough to set the user on fire. More likely, no one could be in the room without getting cooked like a chicken. I take it the saber's handle is made from magic metal so it doesn't melt, plus there is a magic barrier that traps all the heat energy inside the "blade" area. Isn't magic great?
Why blasters: in Fallout 2, energy guns fire super heated plasma. So it's matter that can melt through otherwise bullet proof materials.
MrStillmans 1 month ago
@MrStillmans Yeah but from the blast doors ect they do seem to be in the "blades sphere" Otherwise the heat it'self would case hand burning ect id imagine? Then again don't the blades only damage when it hits something and is otherwise not putting though the energy to hurt? (wookipedia?)
dunndudebemelol 1 month ago
You'll notice that in Ep. 1: PM, Quagon and Kenobi were slicing through that one vault door rather slowly. It was ray shielded or something... anyways the hole that Q was making was relative to the width of the visible light. Say about 3 cm on average. So even if the sourse is a hair's bredth thick, the actual heat effect is significantly larger. Thus supposing that the Jedi can block the bullet's path with the beam, the bullet (anything short of artillery) would vapourize and scorch his robe.
NAFmunchausen 1 month ago
Shrapnel
Katalyzt 1 month ago
As far as I know it's not a monofiliment blade they're way nastier and tend to leave a gory mess.
Assuming I'm right and it's an energy blade a bullet would be vaporised.
Or at least that's how we play it in Macho Women With Guns RPG.
DarthAzabrush 1 month ago
Have you seen Stargate season 3 finally, The Asgard can no longer think of simple tech like modern day guns, even thou they are better at fighting there biggest enemy.
goku48071 1 month ago
I'd say the bullet would be vaporized. Not too many things can stand up to a lightsaber. Except the crystalline scales of a magma dragon. *nods*
L00NGB00W 1 month ago
I find rocket propelled grenades are best for jedi hunting!
sammipooh 1 month ago
Bullets have to be manufactured. Energy weapon magazines can be recharged with electricity. It would be an economic decision, IMHO. A microscopic surface doesn't make sense if you can deflect a blaster bolt, picture trying to block an arrow with a length of (indestructible) sewing thread.
shogo7g 1 month ago
the lighsaber isn't microscopic. not if i remember correctly. blasters bounce off the lightsaber cuz off the containment field holding the plasma.
Ryagful 1 month ago
Just use the force to deflect the bullet...
SKELIT0N 1 month ago
Surely a Jedi would use the force to deflect projectiles weapons I.E. stuff with mass. That would explain why they return service on blaster shots. Plus it looks cool!
Volvoman460 1 month ago
the ending was just epic lol 2:47
wolf0gang113 1 month ago
Without using force powers, the bullet might melt but still the metal would go through as a spray of glowing hot fluid *ouch*
If the bullet was stopped or reflected, that impuls would be hard to handle and painfull. So the best explanation would be: Force is envolved.
But only the sand people on tatooine do have projectile weapons. I guess they were banned form space travel since some idiots shot holes int the hull of the vessel ^^
M0rdH0rst 1 month ago
Lightsabers should never have been able to deflect blasters. It's pure si-fi. It was something cool and that's all it ever was. With bullets, the heat would vaporise the bullets so they could work. If you could hit the bullet.
paulchambers123 1 month ago
I love the new intro! <3
Lumitronic 1 month ago
The bullet is spinning very rapidly so you'd end up with at least two pieces of corkscrewing metal coming your way. I say at least two because some bullets are made to disentigrate on impact and may fragment from passsing through the light saber beam?
NoTrollNow 1 month ago
hmm i would think the light sabor would vaporize everything near the blade including the bullet considering they can cut through almost anything.
marsh84722 1 month ago
@bionicdance light beams would be even less likely to hit one another, especially if it is only the circumference of a photon. Even if they were thicker the radiation needed for them to actually reflect all the incoming beam would be to bright and hot to even be close to I would surmise.
davidthecook 1 month ago
I'm guessing the speed and visibility of a bullet isn't much of a problem for a trained jedi. As Qui-Gon said: "He can see things before they happen. That's why he appears to have such quick reflexes." As for what would happen to the bullet, I'm guessing it would be vaporized. About the actual blade being microscopic, I havn't heard that before, but the effect seems to be wider. That said, I still think that bullets are a better way to go, since you don't risk it will bounce back at you :)
Jinzuhl 1 month ago
Jedi could just force shield bullets, though. Right?
richardshort2001 1 month ago
@richardshort2001 Yes how did I miss that! Good one ;) You thinking along the lines of final scene from the matrix?
AlexThomson1000 1 month ago
Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.
alanpgoodwin 1 month ago
I simply say if you have the force then bullets lose. For instance Addi Ventress in the animated and obi wan both used the force to block bullets or shred those that fired said bullets or if you would prefer movie demonstrations then there is Darth Vader who again uses the force but on blaster bolts in cloud city so a bit dodgy but something to think about. Then there are the games like the force unleashed which granted raped the franchise but main dude stops bullets with his lightsaber.
hungryfordreams 1 month ago
Maybe bullets don't exist in the Star Wars universe, seeing as how far away and long ago it all happened. (And it's obviously all true, I've seen a book about it so it must be real)
Quimbyrbg 1 month ago
Even if the saber blade is microscopic, it seems to ionize the air (or other stuff, like molten metal) a few millimeters around it, so maybe it's the saber »energy« providing the color and the plasma around it making it glow. (Remember Qui-Gon Jinn in Phantom Menace melting the door to the ship's bridge?) And maybe bullets could vaporize in the hot plasma alone.
Oh well. How did Joss Whedon put it in Serenity? »It's a mooovie!«
virumoz 1 month ago
The way to kill a jedi is stick them in a room with Shatner.
wolfeedarkfang 1 month ago
@wolfeedarkfang It would at least turn them to the dark side, when they can't take it anymore and kill him in a fit of rage :D
Jinzuhl 1 month ago
I would assume it would turn into dust...
Snakekilla12 1 month ago
I think the bullet would melt and the Jedi would get sprayed with molten metal.
But I don't know shit about Star Wars.
AQuietVoice 1 month ago
I'm not a well versed in the starwars technicalities by any stretch of the imagination BUT...
1. A Jedi deflects a blaster(which is hell of a lot faster than a bullet) by predicting where it will be(Think of Kwigon catching Jaja's tongue) and moving his blade accordingly.
2. I guess the blade has an intense electromagnetic field around it. Electromagnetism is one hell of a force, it can easily deflect objects.
3. Bullets don't always kill, blasters are(theoretically) much more powerful.
AAgony 1 month ago
acordin to what i heard , light sabers are bolts of plasma kept is shape in a force contament field makeing them pretty much the size you see them a,s if a jedi can deflect a botlt of plasmer , or a laser with this then a bullet would be vaporized as soon as it came into contact with the light saber .
sentinelxr 1 month ago
Bullet vs Samurai sword. A decent equivalent i think.
watch?v=pJZ5J7h_L1w
Moh5Itachi1 1 month ago
Think of a Cortosis bullet. Even if the jedi hit the whole projectile it would just disrupt the blade and travel into the jedi's body.
FattyMcFox 1 month ago
A better way to kill a Jedi would have to be a flame thrower. Let watch Yoda try to out jump that. In Star wars battle front 2. One of the clone trooper classes was armed with what liked like a minigun
pigwigpa 1 month ago
Assuming that wookieepedia and the like are right and standard blaster bolts are plasma and laser mixed together, why would you assume that bullets travel faster?
Lasers go with the speed of light and plasma can be accelerated using electric fields for instance.
The thickness of the blade doesn't really matter as the hole made by lightsabers is roughly the 'large' area you see. The problem is, is the kinetic energy of the bullet dissipated? Else you'd have super hot liquid or gas coming trough.
tiaxanderson 1 month ago
Wait, I never understood this: blasters shoot particles. Are somewhat similar to lasers. They should be going lightspeed, and you shouldn't even be seeing them. How are they slower than projectiles?
Iced1992 1 month ago
Interesting question BD. I remember seeing Obi Wan and Qui-Gon use a light sabre to cut through a blast door in episode 1. Assuming you had awesome ninja jedi skills it would either vaporize the bullet or melt it. Even if it didn't kill you getting a face-full of molten or vaporized lead wouldn't be fun. Also jedi seem to be able to move objects with their minds. So if a jedi saw that you had a gun he might be able to stop the bullets mid flight.
aserath01 1 month ago
I would assume that if said Lightsaber wielder were to catch the bullet in his or her beam one of two things would happen. 1: The bullet would melt and said wielder would catch molten lead, or 2: The molten lead would evaporate. Of course this all depends on how close to the actual "blade" the bullet came, if I remember correctly, in Shadows of the Empire they described some sort of conductors that kept the heat from the blade in check.
coldpawofthefurs 1 month ago
Forget machine-guns. If Dart Maul had been packing a doublre barrel sawn-off shotgun he would have taken out Obi-Wan as well, and not Qui-Gon. What would that have done to the story arc.
SlideRulePirate 1 month ago
I guess the bullet would melt.
BTW , BD , did you see Michio Kaku on "How to build a lightsaber" , and if so what are your thoughts ?
gaglamesh731 1 month ago