i did buy mine on the street so i was mix with speed to make it cheaper now if it was legal it mite have been pure. drug dealer mix drugs in drug to make it cheaper and more dangerous .
ecstasy i can see it help people but if abused like anything that's abused it can damage you I abused it for 2 years.. i use to get it cheep at fuck..
if all (or most) people in the world took mdma just ONE TIME in the right setting, i think it could have a very beneficial effect. just taking it a single time can open you up to hidden or lost positive aspects & can truly change a person for the better. it's all about set & setting & the spirit in which it's taken. like anything, when abused it can be harmful, but used responsibly, it can have definite benefits. as long as they are not hurting anyone, i say let grown ups make their own choices!
@luxvoyager1111 When i first did extacy, my, and my best friends first thought, was to gather all the state leaders of the world in a large room, giving them all a pill of MDMA each. Now, how would that affect the world peace?
Also, imagine if ALL people, at the same time, did MDMA an there were speakers everywhere playing "All you need is love". Think that would have a nice effect on the world :)
@hottietoothfairy :The Reagan era!!You werent born then .Tell you what tho, the music of the time was just fabulous.Hendrix,The JA,Floyd,Traffic...mmm good to be alive.
@DethEetFace amphetamines aswell as metamphetamines is a scientific name, to describe tose substances and for a scientific name it doesnt matter in wich `form` it comes be it a crystal or a poeder because then the substances would remain the same, but since the scientific name is different this is not the case and it are two different drugs.
@DethEetFace speed isnt metaphetamine, it is a ampehtamine, meth is the supercharged version of speed, so it isnt the same, and mdma isnt speed please do some fucking resaerch you fucking dumbass
i doubt its that black and white. drugs are dangerous, but then again everything can be dangerous when you've taken too much. taking mdma on a regular basis wont make you any smarter, on the contrary. you don't need drugs to be smart and open minded.
dont give depressed people mdma....in case you dont know, after each use, there is an increasing back end where you feel even more depressed, if this were to be prescribed, then the people prescribed would be great while on it, and increasingly depressed when not on it....this will definately lead to abuse and addicion
dont get me wrong. i LOVE exctasy, besides lsd it is the best drug i know of, but dont give it to someone who has a mental disability as a prescription.
o btw educational fact: MDMA is NOT ecstasy, mdma is a pure molecule, ecstasy is a designer drug that "HAS" mdma within it, but is cut with other black market drugs like meth, coke, mescaline, heroine, etc(who knows what) because mdma is expensive now BECAUSE it is illegal now,if you legalize mdma we may have access to a safe product. illegalizing makes everything worse and especially going against everything even what AMERICA STANDS FOR
@dajunsta dude first of all designer drugs means you have a drug witch molacuilair structuur has been changed to bypass laws, and the XTC(atleast in holland) is MDMA mixed with a little bit of speed, and why would you mix mdma with herion to make it cheap???? herion is worth a lot more than mdma is and if you want to make antything cheap you can better mix it with soda or something and not even more expensive drugs, besides if you woud put mesceline in inside X than you would trip balls
People need to realize that if you legalize cannabis, exstacy, LSD, it wont be on the black market, it wont be in the high schools(which is good no?).do you ever see anyone selling ciggs or alchohal to kids?people. feed themselves junk called advil, asprin, etc and they ARE toxic. LSD, cannabis, mdma(not exstacy) are pure molecules, When you try to argue about legalizing it, you fear the bad things, how about actually thinking of the good it will do for the WORLD
Anyone who is thick headed enough to listen to the pig headed government is stupid. I have used E 10 times now and it wasnt exactly as clean as it can be if legalised and regulated properly. But Oh no instead they waste money on fucking adds trying to scare us... WHY? Isnt taxable? Crime would drop overnight if they legalised E, Weed and Acid.
i wrote a paper for my psych class on PTSD and the experimental treatment with MDMA and i found it an incredibly interesting idea. i just wish i had the $100 bucks to go to the seminars in boulder
What about cognitive liberty? If the government cared about that to begin with they may not have all the problems to begin with. I am not thilled about the government solving their problems with this script while deneying adults the option of self medicating. At least it seems step in the right direction.
I highly doubt that ecstasy is not dangerous. Although I only did it once, and I'm definetly no expert on it, there is strong evidence that it is dangerous in a few ways. But cigarettes kill more people. Alcohol kills more people. Fucking aspirin kills more people. Theyre all legal. So... Why can't E be legal?
@BobMarleyLurks Oh I thought you could OD on MDMA thats cool. And yeah I agree that it should be legalized as I said but there all I was saying was that there are probably some health problems you know? Not that it stopped me from taking it or taking it in the future I just mean its probably not as healthy as weed.
@BobMarleyLurks Yeah. I really think legalization makes the drug safer too. Like what you said about getting pure MDMA. Friends of mine have gotten that but I know its really hard to find. We could always use technologies to make drugs totally safe, if they were legal. Maybe someday we'll be able to do a line of china white without any negative side effects!
BUllshit..... its casue damages that cannot be overturned, Yes wow mdma would ahve been usefl but its harmful to bad its just to bad you cant use "MDMA" it needs to be changed. its too dangerous this vid is bullshit.
It's also shown benefits for people with Asperger's.
If it were regulated you wouldn't get street XTC, like cut with meth, heroin, coke, RC's and analogues, etc. you'd get legit MDMA and get to use it in a clinical setting.
Certain substances are useless without the aid of psychotherapy. MDMA may be one of them.
I know it removes some of the dendritic spines on neurons, and the only thing I've ever heard that has ever been linked with is increased empathy toward others (reduced symptoms of Asperger's.)
I haven't done it and I'm not planning to but I don't think this video is bullshit.
Well rick, i had already agreed it would have been great if it didnt casue such core damage to our systems. Its most definatly needs to be regualted for medical use. so taht more tests can be done. prehaps to see what we need to be looking at in the brain body etc. ok Well peace and wellness
SSRI's Are unless, Most people i've ever known that taken them have become fat,lazy and always sleepy which is depressing as fuck. They mess up people's life and have serious side effects. Unlike MDMA, take some MDMA and really ask your self "Why am i depressed"?
Haha, I love YouTube. You can always tell someone's drug stance by how intellectual their comments start.
The more intelligently they're able to present their opinions, the more pro-drug they are. Never heard a good factual stance for prohibiting substances, all I hear is "Drugs is bad!"
In england a program called horizon combined the studies of hundreds of scientists research in to the fifty most popular street drugs. They wanted to find which were the most dangerous and why. Ecstasy came in at like 45 right next to poppers (dont know what you call them in america) but you can buy them at the chemist.
Have been saying this for years that they should legalize lsd mdma canabis and realy find out the kinds of things these substances can do. (o: Just look at learys work with lsd
groudie101 since your still in school , and ur talking about how people are listening to him cuz of is title as doctor , why dont u stop listening to your teacher cuz hes your teacher and do you own research on it , primetime esctacy rising , an truths abou mdma, everyone is so quick to listen to things the goverment says with money behind it like the fasle studies that r known facts to be false.
My physics teacher told me about highly educated asses and now I know what he means.Unfortunately he has the title of Harvard Doctor so many fools will shake their heads and say "yes,yes legalize"
You don't know what your talking about. Have you ever done MDMA. Totally changed my life in so many ways for the better. Could be used for so much good.
Funny how he could be stoned, but he is a Harvard Doc and you are???? You shun MDMA because you have been taught by big brother it is bad. Listen to yourself instead of your government programming.
i shun it because i can ive been down that road. people falling in love with nothing, its a stupid drug for recreational use. he's (the Harvard Doc) talking about using it for helping people with problems. do you have p.t.s.s?
That is because those people abused it. I do it once every 6 months and even only once a year sometimes. I could never do it again, and the positive impact it has had on my life will be around forever. It opens your mind to rid itself of allot of negativity and things that don't matter. Yes it can be abused, but so can any drug. It doesn't take away from the fact that it can be used for good.
I don't think we should legalize everything. But I do think we should decriminalize everything, regulate and distribute in a controlled and strict manner. Just a thought
MDMA is not a psychedelic. It's an entactogen/ empathogen / amphetamine. Also, while the studies on the negative effects of MDMA are not conclusive, it is conclusive that the stuff severely damages dendrites. While the serotonin axon terminals may not be damaged, the dendrites slaughtered. Be careful with this stuff, the evidence is not conclusive and unlike psilocybin/ mescaline, is by no means safe. I think the PTSD stuff MAPS is doing is good, but don't take it to mean the stuff is safe
its not a "true" psychedelic, but certainly its a psychedelic amphetamine. i think what you mean is because it realeases oxytocin its an empathogen/ entactogen, which are mainly only MDxx chemicals. many chemicals are dangerous in the wrong doses
Nope that's not what I meant, if I wanted to discuss its potential to stimulate oxytocin I would have done so, however if I chose to use the word release, I would have spelt it correctly. The term 'psychedelic' is not included in the chemical classification code, so we might never agree on what substances may fall within this group, however I personally would prefer to omit any amphetamine for a number of reasons. There are dangers to using MDMA at any therapeutic dose.
I just oppose drug dependancy, and i wouldn't want to see drugs of this nature mis-used, 'taken lightly', or made entirely mainstream and disposed at the drop of a hat by your local GP.
Anti-depressants for example. There are alot of people who do and don't need them, but are given them anyway.
Seroxat, was supposed to be taken off the market becuase of its side effects, but for finanical reasons the company continued to distribute it. Despite the increasing cases of suicide by users.
Right back at you, pig. MDMA is an excellent treatment for PTSD. It is back in clinical trials all over the planet and has proved to be one of the best psychotherapeutic tools to appear since Valium.
Well since we seem to be in the mood of 'dispensing' advice, my advice is learn how to argue. If you offer advice to the person your arguing with, you come across as condescending.
Now while you try to avoid my argument by being arrogant, i'll tell you that im in a good position to know what im talking about because im on the receiving end of MDMA as a social experiment.
Here in the UK we have had a 'rave' culture since 1990, where pure MDMA was taken constantly (Not the cut type you have today
your name proceeds you, sock puppet. a truly benign argument to a serious topic. I consider you brain washed at this point. it really frustrates me that arrogant people like you, that fancy themselves neurologists, try to advocate substances I enjoy periodically. Please, if youre going to regurgitate literature..be more thoughtful about it.
You can ask GP here in the UK about the differences in MDMA today and back then. A good friend of mine is a GP.
Now altough relatively harmless, prolonged use, just like anything can cause damage.
Lets not forget the basic idea that our bodies were not designed to be used in conjunction with drugs.
But back to the 'rave' social experiment, alot of the people i know who we're excessive users have most certainly received damage to their systems, now that we are in the later stages of our lives.
"Lets not forget the basic idea that our bodies were not designed to be used in conjunction with drugs."
Yeah, that's why we don't... wait a minute, we DO have very effective livers that even regenerate. Actually, we have evolved to consume many more toxic things than most drugs and survive just fine. We have evolved alongside many medicinal plants; they plug perfectly into our receptors. Don't kid yourself and don't waste my time trying to kid me.
I'm not sure you think of the same usage. This is theraputic use, not party/raving-use.
They are using MDMA for people to get in contact with their emotions, not just the positive ones, but the bad ones that they have tried to get away from instead of dealing with them. Often this is where stress comes from: ignored or trashed emotions.
So, in a therapeutic nature, I have no doubt what so ever that MDMA can be benefitial.
Yes if i recall this conversation, i beleive that my motives are not entirely against the use of MDMA for therapeutic use, but more that people should be made aware of the dangers of prolonged use.
"They are using MDMA for people to get in contact with their emotions, not just the positive ones, but the bad ones that they have tried to get away from instead of dealing with them. Often this is where stress comes from: ignored or trashed emotions."
sorry i was mistaken. My boss told me that when i was a drug counselor. I read up on the study and their was no conclusive evidence either way. Their was some hope but nothing conclusive. The hope seems to be coming from Rick Doblin who is the founder of MAPS which is the organization doing the study. So of course they are going to be hopeful.
Save the prove its. You have the burden of proof on your shoulders my friend. Why don't you prove that mdma has no negative effects!!!
"Asking to prove a negative is an epic sign of ignorance."
Are you calling yourself ignorant? Sure sounds like it. I have, will and can prove E has negative side effects. so wouldn't that make you the ignorant side of the argument. LOL. I asked you
"Why don't you prove that mdma has no negative effects!!! "
Your logic has ceased at the high school level and you are here spreading lies. Go educate yourself and learn how medicine actually works. Abusus Non Tollit Usum.
You keep saying "my logic has ceased at the high school level." Which is another empty insult. Your starting to develop an M.O. of "insult without prior proof or investigation boy." My logic is perfectly sound in most cases. Occasionally I speak from hear say but I base most of the things I say on fact because then people like you have a very hard time refuting what I say without doing a little research. A main component of a debate is research my friend. Bring something to the table or go home!
Ye who are intellectually dishonest, I have done enough hours of study on this topic to be able to TEACH an Associates Degree program specifically dedicated to it. Honestly, you are making me laugh. The sad part is I have seen and followed you around. I can tell you are a "true believer." I know you are intelligent, but you are too biased to even be willing to understand the truth. Go generate some more revenue for the state, capn piggy.
I did teach a 4 hr class once a week on drugs and alcohol for a year! I did a 20 min lecture specifically on E and other club drugs! I have spoken to thousands of people about my drug and alcohol problems. I don't like the police but i trust that some or most of them have public heath/safety as their primary interest. I speak the truth from publications and experience. I QUIT my job for the state because they paid shitty. I work on a contract basis in the entertainment industry now.
he results also showed a decrease in verbal memory performance among low-dose ecstasy users compared to non-users.
Dr. de Win says it is unclear if these effects are transient or permanent, but the obvious conclusion is that ecstasy, even in small doses, is not safe for the brain, and people should be informed of this risk.
GET A CLUE MAN. THE EVIDENCE IS EVERYWHERE! I have a pdf all about another MDMA study but i cant get the text to copy for some reason.
"he results also showed a decrease in verbal memory performance among low-dose ecstasy users compared to non-users."
I will bet you money that you cannot prove that the test is accurate because most people who will use an illicit substance tend not to have the highest of IQs to begin with. Correlation is not, nor will it ever be except in govt propaganda, causitation.
HA HA HA. I believe some of the most brilliant minds ever known used illicit drugs. Again you have not done you homework. Albert Einstein did drugs dude. As did i and many other brilliant people.
You say you have a wealth of info on MDMA so why don't you read it. You will see the things i am trying to tell you are true!
After 18 months, 59 first-time ecstasy users who had taken six tablets on average and 56 non-users were re-examined with the same techniques and tests.
The study found that low doses of ecstasy did not severely damage the serotonergic neurons or affect mood; however, there were indications of subtle changes in cell architecture and decreased blood flow in some brain regions, suggesting prolonged effects from the drug, including some cell damage.
Fenfluramine and phentermine are both more neurotoxic than MDMA. Together that neurotoxicity is amplified. Why are they legal Rx drugs if they are so dangerous?
Part of this "subject" goes to the ignorance of prohibition and why you seem to think it's a good idea. I'm here to tell you we already have legal RX drugs that are MORE dangerous.
That "suggestion" is bullshit. "Dr. Ricaurte [an exceptionally biased researcher] has previously determined in primates that 2.5mg/kg [nearly twice the standard dose] given orally once every two weeks for four months caused no significant reductions in serotonin levels." You have to go through serotonin reduction to get brain damage (cell death) and much further to get actual death.
The National Institute on Drug Abuse, NIDA, has done much research on the effects of MDMA. Brain imaging research in humans indicates that MDMA causes injury to the brain which affects neurons that use the chemical serotonin to communicate with other neurons. The serotonin system plays a direct role in regulating mood, aggression, sexual activity, sleep, and sensitivity to pain.
NIDA blah blah blah. DUH! Tell me something a 10th grader doesn't know. BTW, NIDA is a far from accurate and trustworthy source. They are EXCEPTIONALLY biased by politics. If you must, because you seem not capable of anything else- CITE THE NIDA RESEARCH.
The research you are asking for has is not available yet but
Dr Fabrizio Schifano, professor of pharmacology at the University of Hertfordshire, said it was clear that early use of the drug did have some effect, but what there was not a consensus on was how long that would last.
Abusus non tollit usum. Abuse is no argument against proper use. When you learn the difference between the words "abuse" and "use" then you might actually get a little respect from me.
There is no such thing as proper use for MDMA. You just deny deny deny with no proof or support. The little proof and support you do offer comes from this guy or his organization. You loose kid I'm done with you. I'll let others rip you apart now because if they read back they will see you don't have any of the proof you say you have and all you do is "LIE LIE LIE DENY DENY DENY!"
LOL. So far I win. You owe me a car. The bet is still good for... I'll give you... 12 hours. If you can prove true neurotoxicity @ [I'll be nice] 3 times the standard dose then I will bet you car titles.
Ecstasy is an illegal amphetamine, which is taken by clubbers for its euphoric effects. The drug increases the amount of a neurotransmitter, called serotonin, in the brain. Serotonin is involved in regulating several brain functions, including mood and memory.
Previous studies have shown that long-term or heavy use of ecstasy can damage neurons and cause depression, anxiety, confusion, difficulty sleeping and decrease in memory.
If you are so secure in your position, take me up on my bet. I will bet you car titles right here and now that you can't prove brain damage within twice a recreational dose.
Ecstasy is an illegal amphetamine, which is taken by clubbers for its euphoric effects. The drug increases the amount of a neurotransmitter, called serotonin, in the brain. Serotonin is involved in regulating several brain functions, including mood and memory.
Previous studies have shown that long-term or heavy use of ecstasy can damage neurons and cause depression, anxiety, confusion, difficulty sleeping and decrease in memory.
Ecstasy is an illegal amphetamine, which is taken by clubbers for its euphoric effects. The drug increases the amount of a neurotransmitter, called serotonin, in the brain. Serotonin is involved in regulating several brain functions, including mood and memory.
Previous studies have shown that long-term or heavy use of ecstasy can damage neurons and cause depression, anxiety, confusion, difficulty sleeping and decrease in memory.
dude! do a little research! its not hard to find if your looking for it!
Researchers took brain scans and gave memory tests to 188 people who had never taken ecstasy (MDMA). The tests and scans were repeated 18 months later, and differences could be seen in the brains of 59 people who had tried small amounts of ecstasy in the intervening period. On average, those who had newly tried it had taken just six pills.
Show me the money! What kinds of tests? Prove the dosages. Describe and prove said "damage." Slightly, and every test I've seen showed ever so slightly, lower levels of neurotransmitter levels do not brain damage make.
To the person laughing at pure MDMA... a friend of mine used to deal 99% pure MDMA crystals, was the ost popular dealer of it in our area. He was arrested 4 months ago and has gone down for 4 years, which is shit because he was providing cleaner, safer MDMA than most of the other dealers!
If it really was 99% pure MDMA I'm amazed. He is lucky he only got 4 years. He must not have had much if he only got 4 years. Are you sure it wasn't crystal meth?
Purity has nothing to do with volume. In fact, fascist pigs weigh everything. That includes cut in the drug and dirt on the plant roots so they can fabricate their charges and statistics.
your words mean nothing anymore bamboo. You just verbally vomit all over everything when someone has something good to say. You are trying to fabricate a persona for me that isn't true as well as a reality that is entirely unprovable. Take your own advice and shut up.
Prove it! You are now in the death throws of your argument. I've ripped you to shreds and you CANNOT prove your point. It happens in stages, as all ignorant prohibitionists act, and the next stage is: LIE,LIE,LIE,DENY,DENY,DENY.
you've actually done nothing and you've proven nothing despite your delusional thinking telling you that you have. You keep telling me to "prove it" when I have nothing to prove. E is harmful as is any other drug. It may not be as harmful as acid, but non the less, it is not good for you and their is no proven effective medical use for it. You have strayed into an argument you can't win so I suggest you pick something else to argue and stop trying to label me a prohibitionist and fascist.
"you've actually done nothing and you've proven nothing despite your delusional thinking telling you that you have. You keep telling me to "prove it" when I have nothing to prove."
Apparently you have yet to learn how things work. You made an assertion and you fail to be able to prove said assertion. That IS the standard of "lie,lie,lie,deny,deny,deny."
seems to fit your argument strategy much better them mine. Throw a little "judicious selection of statistics, unwarranted conclusion, Spiteful perversion," and it would be spot on. You simply cant say E or mdma IS HARMLESS!
It's nice to see you in another lie. YOU CANNOT prove it harmful at under 40 times the standard dose. At 10 TIMES the standard dose it is still relatively harmless compared to many Rx drugs. In fact, 10 times the standard dose of MANY Rx drugs will kill you.
Hey FDBecker, do you know the date this was recorded? Thanks for posting this! Rick is one of my heroes, it's amazing just how much this one man has done considering the juggernaut forces that are against him. It took MAPS over two decades to get this study approved, and that's with all the clinical evidence that existed before MDMA was criminalised. They had to start from scratch with the whole drug war mafia empire against them.
Noxtreme i think your comments are an absolute joke, government dusnt know anything about drugs, beause they dont take them, take it from me iv used ecstasy over 20 times and i dont feel any psychological damage or depression due to mdma use, infact if anything mdma has given me a more positive outlook on life.
It is my thought that this guy probably uses these drugs recreationally, enjoys them, has a habit, and wants an excuse to make them legal. A lot of people who use ecstasy become polydrug abusers because it is not taken everyday or necessarily that often but they want to repeat the experience or are trying to self medicate for depression.
There are plenty of doctors out there who shouldn't be doctors, many who don't know what they are talking about, misdiagnose and mistreat all kinds of people. One MDMA tablet I'm sure is much worse than a pack of cigarettes or a six pack of beer, but if they are all bad for you than why do any of them, life is short already, why decrease the quality of life and make it shorter by damaging your body/brain for a moment of pleasure, It's foolish.
"One MDMA tablet I'm sure is much worse than a pack of cigarettes or a six pack of beer,"
No way in hell. It's nice to see your ignorant fascist pig ass surface here too. EVERYONE- meet the willfully ignorant pig. I've destroyed this character elsewhere; it should be fun here as well.
i think what none of you realise is that this guy is appealing for MDMA to be prescribed to veterans with PTSD. not available for anyone to buy over the counter. this would be highly regulated and only available to the correct therapists, only in a therapy session. people arent going to be going round chewing their faces off
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME. Just because you love drugs doesn't mean you should make them available as a prescription. Don't fall for it America This is a drug dealer trying to start a drug dealing organization! One drug addict who made it through a big name school trying to strike it rich by exploiting the mentally I'll. SICK man you will burn.
america already has a drug dealing organization, I can get meth under the brand name desoxyn and oxycontin are as good as heroin so if you think this guy can compete with the pharmaceutical industry think again, america already had it's drug dealing organization, and their drugs are more dangerous then the illegal ones.
i did buy mine on the street so i was mix with speed to make it cheaper now if it was legal it mite have been pure. drug dealer mix drugs in drug to make it cheaper and more dangerous .
zoneracer 2 months ago
ecstasy i can see it help people but if abused like anything that's abused it can damage you I abused it for 2 years.. i use to get it cheep at fuck..
zoneracer 2 months ago
if all (or most) people in the world took mdma just ONE TIME in the right setting, i think it could have a very beneficial effect. just taking it a single time can open you up to hidden or lost positive aspects & can truly change a person for the better. it's all about set & setting & the spirit in which it's taken. like anything, when abused it can be harmful, but used responsibly, it can have definite benefits. as long as they are not hurting anyone, i say let grown ups make their own choices!
luxvoyager1111 6 months ago
@luxvoyager1111 When i first did extacy, my, and my best friends first thought, was to gather all the state leaders of the world in a large room, giving them all a pill of MDMA each. Now, how would that affect the world peace?
Also, imagine if ALL people, at the same time, did MDMA an there were speakers everywhere playing "All you need is love". Think that would have a nice effect on the world :)
ElvisFerdinand 4 months ago
@DethEetFace
a chemical compound is a molecule comprised of more than one element. A compound is a molecule. A molecule is not necessarily a compound.
almostskater3210 7 months ago
THIS GUY IS EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
greenamatt1992 7 months ago
Hey, its 2011, havent you guys found out that drugs kill you!!
SuperJohnnykay 9 months ago
@SuperJohnnykay to borrow from the legendary Bill Hicks, i will just say....guess what? NON-DRUG USERS DIE. EVERY. DAY. oh my, it's true! :-o
luxvoyager1111 6 months ago
@SuperJohnnykay
hahahah
generalizing
you're the one stuck in the reagan era
hottietoothfairy 4 months ago
@hottietoothfairy :The Reagan era!!You werent born then .Tell you what tho, the music of the time was just fabulous.Hendrix,The JA,Floyd,Traffic...mmm good to be alive.
SuperJohnnykay 4 months ago
@DethEetFace
I don't get why you have to lie about drugs.
almostskater3210 9 months ago
LEGALIZE THE GANJA
PLEAZ!!!!!!
viethood123 9 months ago
@DethEetFace
Also the synthesis of MDMA is a little more complicated than that haha
almostskater3210 10 months ago
@DethEetFace
Not at all. Meth as an additional methyl group making it more lipid soluble. They're different drugs.
almostskater3210 10 months ago
Fuck every governements in the world, until people get the power! People of the entire world, it's time to rise up against this laws!
TheMercredid 10 months ago
@DethEetFace amphetamines aswell as metamphetamines is a scientific name, to describe tose substances and for a scientific name it doesnt matter in wich `form` it comes be it a crystal or a poeder because then the substances would remain the same, but since the scientific name is different this is not the case and it are two different drugs.
sander395 10 months ago
@DethEetFace speed isnt metaphetamine, it is a ampehtamine, meth is the supercharged version of speed, so it isnt the same, and mdma isnt speed please do some fucking resaerch you fucking dumbass
sander395 10 months ago
i doubt its that black and white. drugs are dangerous, but then again everything can be dangerous when you've taken too much. taking mdma on a regular basis wont make you any smarter, on the contrary. you don't need drugs to be smart and open minded.
Angelslayer007 10 months ago
dont give depressed people mdma....in case you dont know, after each use, there is an increasing back end where you feel even more depressed, if this were to be prescribed, then the people prescribed would be great while on it, and increasingly depressed when not on it....this will definately lead to abuse and addicion
dont get me wrong. i LOVE exctasy, besides lsd it is the best drug i know of, but dont give it to someone who has a mental disability as a prescription.
ooboodylan 10 months ago
o btw educational fact: MDMA is NOT ecstasy, mdma is a pure molecule, ecstasy is a designer drug that "HAS" mdma within it, but is cut with other black market drugs like meth, coke, mescaline, heroine, etc(who knows what) because mdma is expensive now BECAUSE it is illegal now,if you legalize mdma we may have access to a safe product. illegalizing makes everything worse and especially going against everything even what AMERICA STANDS FOR
dajunsta 1 year ago
@dajunsta Pure ecstasy IS pure MDMA
kittycatcarley 1 year ago
@dajunsta dude first of all designer drugs means you have a drug witch molacuilair structuur has been changed to bypass laws, and the XTC(atleast in holland) is MDMA mixed with a little bit of speed, and why would you mix mdma with herion to make it cheap???? herion is worth a lot more than mdma is and if you want to make antything cheap you can better mix it with soda or something and not even more expensive drugs, besides if you woud put mesceline in inside X than you would trip balls
sander395 11 months ago
People need to realize that if you legalize cannabis, exstacy, LSD, it wont be on the black market, it wont be in the high schools(which is good no?).do you ever see anyone selling ciggs or alchohal to kids?people. feed themselves junk called advil, asprin, etc and they ARE toxic. LSD, cannabis, mdma(not exstacy) are pure molecules, When you try to argue about legalizing it, you fear the bad things, how about actually thinking of the good it will do for the WORLD
dajunsta 1 year ago
Anyone who is thick headed enough to listen to the pig headed government is stupid. I have used E 10 times now and it wasnt exactly as clean as it can be if legalised and regulated properly. But Oh no instead they waste money on fucking adds trying to scare us... WHY? Isnt taxable? Crime would drop overnight if they legalised E, Weed and Acid.
tomkkkkk 1 year ago
i wrote a paper for my psych class on PTSD and the experimental treatment with MDMA and i found it an incredibly interesting idea. i just wish i had the $100 bucks to go to the seminars in boulder
MightyBass101 1 year ago
What about cognitive liberty? If the government cared about that to begin with they may not have all the problems to begin with. I am not thilled about the government solving their problems with this script while deneying adults the option of self medicating. At least it seems step in the right direction.
93hipgnosis 1 year ago
Great point at 4:36
BobMarleyLurks 1 year ago
I highly doubt that ecstasy is not dangerous. Although I only did it once, and I'm definetly no expert on it, there is strong evidence that it is dangerous in a few ways. But cigarettes kill more people. Alcohol kills more people. Fucking aspirin kills more people. Theyre all legal. So... Why can't E be legal?
KrayzieHaze420 1 year ago 2
@KrayzieHaze420
MDMA is fairly safe.
There is a huge difference between MDMA and Ecstasy.
Ecstasy is the street-made mdma.
It's impossible to overdose on pure mdma.
BobMarleyLurks 1 year ago
@BobMarleyLurks Oh I thought you could OD on MDMA thats cool. And yeah I agree that it should be legalized as I said but there all I was saying was that there are probably some health problems you know? Not that it stopped me from taking it or taking it in the future I just mean its probably not as healthy as weed.
KrayzieHaze420 1 year ago
@KrayzieHaze420
Yeah I think it should be legalized under prescription.
BobMarleyLurks 1 year ago
@BobMarleyLurks Yeah. I really think legalization makes the drug safer too. Like what you said about getting pure MDMA. Friends of mine have gotten that but I know its really hard to find. We could always use technologies to make drugs totally safe, if they were legal. Maybe someday we'll be able to do a line of china white without any negative side effects!
KrayzieHaze420 1 year ago
@BobMarleyLurks
You CAN overdose on MDMA, but you'd have to be trying to. An overdose for most people would be 45 to 60 good pills in a single night.
SailorBarsoom 1 year ago
@SailorBarsoom the most I've ever took has been two! I don't think i could afford 45 to 60 pills nor would I want to take that much! lol
GaeilgeSpraoi 1 year ago
doesnt mdma cause brain damage though
Rwake1 1 year ago
BUllshit..... its casue damages that cannot be overturned, Yes wow mdma would ahve been usefl but its harmful to bad its just to bad you cant use "MDMA" it needs to be changed. its too dangerous this vid is bullshit.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed
MDMA has been proven to relieve PTSD symptoms.
It's also shown benefits for people with Asperger's.
If it were regulated you wouldn't get street XTC, like cut with meth, heroin, coke, RC's and analogues, etc. you'd get legit MDMA and get to use it in a clinical setting.
Certain substances are useless without the aid of psychotherapy. MDMA may be one of them.
rick4318 1 year ago
@rick4318 Its still damagees your body in ways taht cannot or have not been shown to recover ever.
StartswithASeed 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed
Like what? I haven't heard of any.
I know it removes some of the dendritic spines on neurons, and the only thing I've ever heard that has ever been linked with is increased empathy toward others (reduced symptoms of Asperger's.)
I haven't done it and I'm not planning to but I don't think this video is bullshit.
rick4318 1 year ago
Well rick, i had already agreed it would have been great if it didnt casue such core damage to our systems. Its most definatly needs to be regualted for medical use. so taht more tests can be done. prehaps to see what we need to be looking at in the brain body etc. ok Well peace and wellness
StartswithASeed 1 year ago 2
@StartswithASeed
You haven't told me specifically what damage it does.
I've never heard anything that says MDMA damages the physical body, only neurons, and only a part whose function is not entirely clear.
Did you already explain it in previous posts to this video? Did you find this in scientific studies? Links, please.
rick4318 1 year ago
@StartswithASeed
hahahahahahahahaha
BobMarleyLurks 1 year ago
it is loosed
LampoonedHerd 1 year ago
A new study shows THC prevents MDMA's neurotoxicity!
PiratedComedy 1 year ago 2
@PiratedComedy whaatt? really? that's fuckin crazy. it's a weird trip tho /:
LaGoodLife111 1 year ago
@PiratedComedy really??? that's super crazy! it's a weird trip tho /:
LaGoodLife111 1 year ago
@PiratedComedy
Cite, please. I mean, it's awesome if that's true, but I need more to go on.
SailorBarsoom 1 year ago
Where can I find the results of the study?
rly2good 1 year ago
god I would love to see MDMA be legal :/
legalize magic mushrooms marijuana and MDMA! not just weed!
I am all for the legalization of weed I would just love to see these two go along with it
volcom13xx 1 year ago
SSRI's Are unless, Most people i've ever known that taken them have become fat,lazy and always sleepy which is depressing as fuck. They mess up people's life and have serious side effects. Unlike MDMA, take some MDMA and really ask your self "Why am i depressed"?
extremerandy 1 year ago
doesn't ecstasy deplete serotonin as opposed to SSRIs which increase levels of serotonin in the brain
MrXZodiacInfinitY 1 year ago
the army are bastards, mdma could benefit these people massively, it could sort them out in the head, this guys got it right.
Rumbleman99 2 years ago 14
this guy looks like a mean druggy.... i dont want to follow him... =(..... BUT... i will hahahah =D
SlugDropsonheads 2 years ago
Haha, I love YouTube. You can always tell someone's drug stance by how intellectual their comments start.
The more intelligently they're able to present their opinions, the more pro-drug they are. Never heard a good factual stance for prohibiting substances, all I hear is "Drugs is bad!"
Sorry, but "drugs is bad" is not science.
Kamatzu 2 years ago 39
@Kamatzu I also have heard "drgs r bad" lol
20108024 1 year ago
@Kamatzu EXACTLY CORRECT!
youdevil6 1 year ago
@Kamatzu Exactly!
canadianmyoozikman 1 year ago
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Fuck ecstasy
Revolt714 2 years ago
Great song in the intro.
BadassMMA 2 years ago 2
In england a program called horizon combined the studies of hundreds of scientists research in to the fifty most popular street drugs. They wanted to find which were the most dangerous and why. Ecstasy came in at like 45 right next to poppers (dont know what you call them in america) but you can buy them at the chemist.
Have been saying this for years that they should legalize lsd mdma canabis and realy find out the kinds of things these substances can do. (o: Just look at learys work with lsd
OnBrokenDreams 2 years ago
groudie101 since your still in school , and ur talking about how people are listening to him cuz of is title as doctor , why dont u stop listening to your teacher cuz hes your teacher and do you own research on it , primetime esctacy rising , an truths abou mdma, everyone is so quick to listen to things the goverment says with money behind it like the fasle studies that r known facts to be false.
420ela420 2 years ago
MD is bomb but i still think that this will make the "subject" who takes it more depressed the next day lmao i hav had those days
Togood4uf00 2 years ago
idiot... it will be pure and at very small doses, yes if you have high doses of mdma or taking e pills then yes u will come down and become depressed
mikeyjharris 2 years ago
The medical use amounts aren't anywhere near a recreational use amount. Plus you probably had more than just MDMA if it was X.
neoc03 2 years ago
im sure you took methed up pills then
drleetlollol 2 years ago
this guy is great
phornuphto 2 years ago
he looks like he just came down from a high haha
suuperstylin 2 years ago
lmfao so true
Togood4uf00 2 years ago
My physics teacher told me about highly educated asses and now I know what he means.Unfortunately he has the title of Harvard Doctor so many fools will shake their heads and say "yes,yes legalize"
Groudie101 2 years ago
its uninformed retards such as yourself who would say something such as this ^^^
mickeydefilippi 2 years ago
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Groudie101 2 years ago
You don't know what your talking about. Have you ever done MDMA. Totally changed my life in so many ways for the better. Could be used for so much good.
neoc03 2 years ago
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maybe punishing jackasses should be legalized.
jackasses like this guy
theantichung 2 years ago
keep going guys, you too are fun to read here...:)
rockmc3 2 years ago
I love how this guy speaks as if something is wrong with him
yes.take mdma.its good for you (payn o attention to how stoned and fucked up my mannerisms are)
theantichung 2 years ago
Funny how he could be stoned, but he is a Harvard Doc and you are???? You shun MDMA because you have been taught by big brother it is bad. Listen to yourself instead of your government programming.
neoc03 2 years ago
i shun it because i can ive been down that road. people falling in love with nothing, its a stupid drug for recreational use. he's (the Harvard Doc) talking about using it for helping people with problems. do you have p.t.s.s?
corweezy010 1 year ago
That is because those people abused it. I do it once every 6 months and even only once a year sometimes. I could never do it again, and the positive impact it has had on my life will be around forever. It opens your mind to rid itself of allot of negativity and things that don't matter. Yes it can be abused, but so can any drug. It doesn't take away from the fact that it can be used for good.
neoc03 1 year ago
I don't think we should legalize everything. But I do think we should decriminalize everything, regulate and distribute in a controlled and strict manner. Just a thought
strawberrydye 2 years ago
MDMA is not a psychedelic. It's an entactogen/ empathogen / amphetamine. Also, while the studies on the negative effects of MDMA are not conclusive, it is conclusive that the stuff severely damages dendrites. While the serotonin axon terminals may not be damaged, the dendrites slaughtered. Be careful with this stuff, the evidence is not conclusive and unlike psilocybin/ mescaline, is by no means safe. I think the PTSD stuff MAPS is doing is good, but don't take it to mean the stuff is safe
mundarda 3 years ago
its not a "true" psychedelic, but certainly its a psychedelic amphetamine. i think what you mean is because it realeases oxytocin its an empathogen/ entactogen, which are mainly only MDxx chemicals. many chemicals are dangerous in the wrong doses
TakeItBrendanLSD 2 years ago
Nope that's not what I meant, if I wanted to discuss its potential to stimulate oxytocin I would have done so, however if I chose to use the word release, I would have spelt it correctly. The term 'psychedelic' is not included in the chemical classification code, so we might never agree on what substances may fall within this group, however I personally would prefer to omit any amphetamine for a number of reasons. There are dangers to using MDMA at any therapeutic dose.
mundarda 2 years ago
Educate yourselves on MDMA. It is a truly wonderful experience.
<3
P4ND4x3 3 years ago
MDMA is my greatest love, it should not be illegal
Lightningbaron69 3 years ago 2
Again to some Seroxat may be perfectly fine, and experience no issues whatsoever.
On the other side of the scale, it has horrific outcomes.
DonJuanDeMarco2 3 years ago
I just oppose drug dependancy, and i wouldn't want to see drugs of this nature mis-used, 'taken lightly', or made entirely mainstream and disposed at the drop of a hat by your local GP.
Anti-depressants for example. There are alot of people who do and don't need them, but are given them anyway.
Seroxat, was supposed to be taken off the market becuase of its side effects, but for finanical reasons the company continued to distribute it. Despite the increasing cases of suicide by users.
DonJuanDeMarco2 3 years ago
Oh my God,
get everyone dependant on drugs..
Fuck off.
Look at this guys eyes, is he buzzing or what ?
DonJuanDeMarco2 3 years ago
"Fuck off."
Right back at you, pig. MDMA is an excellent treatment for PTSD. It is back in clinical trials all over the planet and has proved to be one of the best psychotherapeutic tools to appear since Valium.
sockpuppetsfromhell 3 years ago
Well if it works for you than fair enough.
But drugs are not always the way to go.
Americans are too dependant on 'pschotherapeutic' drugs.
If you beleive there is no damage from prolonged use of MDMA, good luck.
Its all wear and tear, 'pig' !?
DonJuanDeMarco2 3 years ago
Know what you are talking about before you speak up in public.
sockpuppetsfromhell 3 years ago
Well since we seem to be in the mood of 'dispensing' advice, my advice is learn how to argue. If you offer advice to the person your arguing with, you come across as condescending.
Now while you try to avoid my argument by being arrogant, i'll tell you that im in a good position to know what im talking about because im on the receiving end of MDMA as a social experiment.
Here in the UK we have had a 'rave' culture since 1990, where pure MDMA was taken constantly (Not the cut type you have today
DonJuanDeMarco2 3 years ago
"...as a social experiment."
Bravo for you. I've had many different phenethylamines, phenylisopropylamines, ergolines, and tryptamines.
sockpuppetsfromhell 3 years ago
Well im aware of the things you have pointed out.
Then maybe we should be talking about dosage in this case ?
Because i cannot for one second deny what MDMA can do to someone.
DonJuanDeMarco2 3 years ago
Abusus non tollit usum.
sockpuppetsfromhell 3 years ago
Respected, and yes i beleive you should have the choice, just that the dangers should be made clear for everyone.
Im just not a big fan of drug dependency.
DonJuanDeMarco2 3 years ago
THANK YOU! My point is proven again!
Noxtreme 2 years ago
your name proceeds you, sock puppet. a truly benign argument to a serious topic. I consider you brain washed at this point. it really frustrates me that arrogant people like you, that fancy themselves neurologists, try to advocate substances I enjoy periodically. Please, if youre going to regurgitate literature..be more thoughtful about it.
joeybell01 3 years ago
Brain washed by the truth, absolutely. If you wish to try to prove harm, by all means try. I will make sure you fail as I debunk the propaganda.
sockpuppetsfromhell 3 years ago
You can ask GP here in the UK about the differences in MDMA today and back then. A good friend of mine is a GP.
Now altough relatively harmless, prolonged use, just like anything can cause damage.
Lets not forget the basic idea that our bodies were not designed to be used in conjunction with drugs.
But back to the 'rave' social experiment, alot of the people i know who we're excessive users have most certainly received damage to their systems, now that we are in the later stages of our lives.
DonJuanDeMarco2 3 years ago
"Lets not forget the basic idea that our bodies were not designed to be used in conjunction with drugs."
Yeah, that's why we don't... wait a minute, we DO have very effective livers that even regenerate. Actually, we have evolved to consume many more toxic things than most drugs and survive just fine. We have evolved alongside many medicinal plants; they plug perfectly into our receptors. Don't kid yourself and don't waste my time trying to kid me.
sockpuppetsfromhell 3 years ago
I'm not sure you think of the same usage. This is theraputic use, not party/raving-use.
They are using MDMA for people to get in contact with their emotions, not just the positive ones, but the bad ones that they have tried to get away from instead of dealing with them. Often this is where stress comes from: ignored or trashed emotions.
So, in a therapeutic nature, I have no doubt what so ever that MDMA can be benefitial.
madspwn 3 years ago
Yes if i recall this conversation, i beleive that my motives are not entirely against the use of MDMA for therapeutic use, but more that people should be made aware of the dangers of prolonged use.
"They are using MDMA for people to get in contact with their emotions, not just the positive ones, but the bad ones that they have tried to get away from instead of dealing with them. Often this is where stress comes from: ignored or trashed emotions."
I agree with you here completely.
DonJuanDeMarco2 3 years ago
This study failed badly! Some of the vets lost it completely as i understood it.
Noxtreme 2 years ago
Prove it. I have copies of the protocols and most of the results. Prove it or STFU, liar.
sockpuppetsfromhell 2 years ago
sorry i was mistaken. My boss told me that when i was a drug counselor. I read up on the study and their was no conclusive evidence either way. Their was some hope but nothing conclusive. The hope seems to be coming from Rick Doblin who is the founder of MAPS which is the organization doing the study. So of course they are going to be hopeful.
Save the prove its. You have the burden of proof on your shoulders my friend. Why don't you prove that mdma has no negative effects!!!
Noxtreme 2 years ago
Asking to prove a negative is an epic sign of ignorance. That's not how medicine works, friend. I have a video series on this topic.
sockpuppetsfromhell 2 years ago 2
"Asking to prove a negative is an epic sign of ignorance."
Are you calling yourself ignorant? Sure sounds like it. I have, will and can prove E has negative side effects. so wouldn't that make you the ignorant side of the argument. LOL. I asked you
"Why don't you prove that mdma has no negative effects!!! "
Noxtreme 2 years ago
Your logic has ceased at the high school level and you are here spreading lies. Go educate yourself and learn how medicine actually works. Abusus Non Tollit Usum.
sockpuppetsfromhell 2 years ago
You keep saying "my logic has ceased at the high school level." Which is another empty insult. Your starting to develop an M.O. of "insult without prior proof or investigation boy." My logic is perfectly sound in most cases. Occasionally I speak from hear say but I base most of the things I say on fact because then people like you have a very hard time refuting what I say without doing a little research. A main component of a debate is research my friend. Bring something to the table or go home!
Noxtreme 2 years ago
Ye who are intellectually dishonest, I have done enough hours of study on this topic to be able to TEACH an Associates Degree program specifically dedicated to it. Honestly, you are making me laugh. The sad part is I have seen and followed you around. I can tell you are a "true believer." I know you are intelligent, but you are too biased to even be willing to understand the truth. Go generate some more revenue for the state, capn piggy.
sockpuppetsfromhell 2 years ago
I did teach a 4 hr class once a week on drugs and alcohol for a year! I did a 20 min lecture specifically on E and other club drugs! I have spoken to thousands of people about my drug and alcohol problems. I don't like the police but i trust that some or most of them have public heath/safety as their primary interest. I speak the truth from publications and experience. I QUIT my job for the state because they paid shitty. I work on a contract basis in the entertainment industry now.
Noxtreme 2 years ago
where did you get this info? Is it current.
Noxtreme 2 years ago
It's more than current, it's absolute cutting edge.
sockpuppetsfromhell 2 years ago
or just buy legal ecstasy alternatives?
there just as good if not better than most pills ive had.
no comedown too!
StompMasta 3 years ago
I dont think so. You've never done pure MDMA then, or taken 5-HTP to completely remove the comedown.
What alternative pills are just as good then? BZP/TFMPP ones? or something else? gimme the name of them and I'll check them out...
Percy203 3 years ago 2
nah none are as good but still there not bad
StompMasta 3 years ago
L' america tollera una sola droga l' alcool !
ufffmauro 3 years ago
stupid fuck!
AMANOTAVANTA 3 years ago
I know you are, you dont have to go blurting it out all the time.
Percy203 3 years ago
read this
"MDMA ('ecstasy') and other 'club drugs'. The new epidemic"
SEE LOOK AT YOU!
DENY DENY DENY.
"Even a small amount of ecstasy can be toxic enough to poison the nervous system and cause irreparable damage.
- Ecstasy can modify DNA structure, causing genetic damage."
Now thats fucking scary! It can fuck up your kids too!!!
Noxtreme 3 years ago
"Even a small amount of ecstasy can be toxic enough to poison the nervous system and cause irreparable damage.
- Ecstasy can modify DNA structure, causing genetic damage."
BULLSHIT. Prove it. Your opinion is NOT good enough and a cherry picked opinion of someone else is even worse!
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
he results also showed a decrease in verbal memory performance among low-dose ecstasy users compared to non-users.
Dr. de Win says it is unclear if these effects are transient or permanent, but the obvious conclusion is that ecstasy, even in small doses, is not safe for the brain, and people should be informed of this risk.
GET A CLUE MAN. THE EVIDENCE IS EVERYWHERE! I have a pdf all about another MDMA study but i cant get the text to copy for some reason.
Noxtreme 3 years ago
A PDF? LOL. I have about 1 GIG of documentation.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
"he results also showed a decrease in verbal memory performance among low-dose ecstasy users compared to non-users."
I will bet you money that you cannot prove that the test is accurate because most people who will use an illicit substance tend not to have the highest of IQs to begin with. Correlation is not, nor will it ever be except in govt propaganda, causitation.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
HA HA HA. I believe some of the most brilliant minds ever known used illicit drugs. Again you have not done you homework. Albert Einstein did drugs dude. As did i and many other brilliant people.
You say you have a wealth of info on MDMA so why don't you read it. You will see the things i am trying to tell you are true!
Noxtreme 2 years ago
After 18 months, 59 first-time ecstasy users who had taken six tablets on average and 56 non-users were re-examined with the same techniques and tests.
The study found that low doses of ecstasy did not severely damage the serotonergic neurons or affect mood; however, there were indications of subtle changes in cell architecture and decreased blood flow in some brain regions, suggesting prolonged effects from the drug, including some cell damage.
Noxtreme 3 years ago
Fenfluramine and phentermine are both more neurotoxic than MDMA. Together that neurotoxicity is amplified. Why are they legal Rx drugs if they are so dangerous?
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
Beats me. Don't change the subject!
Noxtreme 3 years ago
Part of this "subject" goes to the ignorance of prohibition and why you seem to think it's a good idea. I'm here to tell you we already have legal RX drugs that are MORE dangerous.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
That "suggestion" is bullshit. "Dr. Ricaurte [an exceptionally biased researcher] has previously determined in primates that 2.5mg/kg [nearly twice the standard dose] given orally once every two weeks for four months caused no significant reductions in serotonin levels." You have to go through serotonin reduction to get brain damage (cell death) and much further to get actual death.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
The National Institute on Drug Abuse, NIDA, has done much research on the effects of MDMA. Brain imaging research in humans indicates that MDMA causes injury to the brain which affects neurons that use the chemical serotonin to communicate with other neurons. The serotonin system plays a direct role in regulating mood, aggression, sexual activity, sleep, and sensitivity to pain.
Noxtreme 3 years ago
NIDA blah blah blah. DUH! Tell me something a 10th grader doesn't know. BTW, NIDA is a far from accurate and trustworthy source. They are EXCEPTIONALLY biased by politics. If you must, because you seem not capable of anything else- CITE THE NIDA RESEARCH.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
The research you are asking for has is not available yet but
Dr Fabrizio Schifano, professor of pharmacology at the University of Hertfordshire, said it was clear that early use of the drug did have some effect, but what there was not a consensus on was how long that would last.
Noxtreme 3 years ago
He said: "We know long-term use has a lasting impact, so it makes sense that damage starts as soon as someone starts to use the drug.
"But we cannot say exactly how much damage is sustained at the start and need more research to be categorical about this."
Noxtreme 3 years ago
Abusus non tollit usum. Abuse is no argument against proper use. When you learn the difference between the words "abuse" and "use" then you might actually get a little respect from me.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
There is no such thing as proper use for MDMA. You just deny deny deny with no proof or support. The little proof and support you do offer comes from this guy or his organization. You loose kid I'm done with you. I'll let others rip you apart now because if they read back they will see you don't have any of the proof you say you have and all you do is "LIE LIE LIE DENY DENY DENY!"
Noxtreme 3 years ago
LOL. So far I win. You owe me a car. The bet is still good for... I'll give you... 12 hours. If you can prove true neurotoxicity @ [I'll be nice] 3 times the standard dose then I will bet you car titles.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
"but what there was not a consensus on was how long that would last."
I can prove that to you right here- it's a couple weeks, tops, and that comes from real ABUSE. USE does not cause such problems.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
Ecstasy is an illegal amphetamine, which is taken by clubbers for its euphoric effects. The drug increases the amount of a neurotransmitter, called serotonin, in the brain. Serotonin is involved in regulating several brain functions, including mood and memory.
Previous studies have shown that long-term or heavy use of ecstasy can damage neurons and cause depression, anxiety, confusion, difficulty sleeping and decrease in memory.
Noxtreme 3 years ago
If you are so secure in your position, take me up on my bet. I will bet you car titles right here and now that you can't prove brain damage within twice a recreational dose.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
Ecstasy is an illegal amphetamine, which is taken by clubbers for its euphoric effects. The drug increases the amount of a neurotransmitter, called serotonin, in the brain. Serotonin is involved in regulating several brain functions, including mood and memory.
Previous studies have shown that long-term or heavy use of ecstasy can damage neurons and cause depression, anxiety, confusion, difficulty sleeping and decrease in memory.
Noxtreme 3 years ago
Ecstasy is an illegal amphetamine, which is taken by clubbers for its euphoric effects. The drug increases the amount of a neurotransmitter, called serotonin, in the brain. Serotonin is involved in regulating several brain functions, including mood and memory.
Previous studies have shown that long-term or heavy use of ecstasy can damage neurons and cause depression, anxiety, confusion, difficulty sleeping and decrease in memory.
Noxtreme 3 years ago
1st paragraph- fucking duh. Tell me something a 10th grader wouldn't know.
2nd paragraph- Abusus non tollit usum.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
dude! do a little research! its not hard to find if your looking for it!
Researchers took brain scans and gave memory tests to 188 people who had never taken ecstasy (MDMA). The tests and scans were repeated 18 months later, and differences could be seen in the brains of 59 people who had tried small amounts of ecstasy in the intervening period. On average, those who had newly tried it had taken just six pills.
Noxtreme 3 years ago
Show me the money! What kinds of tests? Prove the dosages. Describe and prove said "damage." Slightly, and every test I've seen showed ever so slightly, lower levels of neurotransmitter levels do not brain damage make.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
"dude! do a little research!"
10 years good enough for you?
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
To the person laughing at pure MDMA... a friend of mine used to deal 99% pure MDMA crystals, was the ost popular dealer of it in our area. He was arrested 4 months ago and has gone down for 4 years, which is shit because he was providing cleaner, safer MDMA than most of the other dealers!
rollinglife06 3 years ago
If it really was 99% pure MDMA I'm amazed. He is lucky he only got 4 years. He must not have had much if he only got 4 years. Are you sure it wasn't crystal meth?
Noxtreme 3 years ago
Purity has nothing to do with volume. In fact, fascist pigs weigh everything. That includes cut in the drug and dirt on the plant roots so they can fabricate their charges and statistics.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
your words mean nothing anymore bamboo. You just verbally vomit all over everything when someone has something good to say. You are trying to fabricate a persona for me that isn't true as well as a reality that is entirely unprovable. Take your own advice and shut up.
Noxtreme 3 years ago
Prove it! You are now in the death throws of your argument. I've ripped you to shreds and you CANNOT prove your point. It happens in stages, as all ignorant prohibitionists act, and the next stage is: LIE,LIE,LIE,DENY,DENY,DENY.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
you've actually done nothing and you've proven nothing despite your delusional thinking telling you that you have. You keep telling me to "prove it" when I have nothing to prove. E is harmful as is any other drug. It may not be as harmful as acid, but non the less, it is not good for you and their is no proven effective medical use for it. You have strayed into an argument you can't win so I suggest you pick something else to argue and stop trying to label me a prohibitionist and fascist.
Noxtreme 3 years ago
"you've actually done nothing and you've proven nothing despite your delusional thinking telling you that you have. You keep telling me to "prove it" when I have nothing to prove."
Apparently you have yet to learn how things work. You made an assertion and you fail to be able to prove said assertion. That IS the standard of "lie,lie,lie,deny,deny,deny."
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
"and their is no proven effective medical use for it."
That's a lie.
"You have strayed into an argument you can't win"
You lost this argument before it began. PROVE your assertion or shut the fuck up.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
"LIE,LIE,LIE,DENY,DENY,DENY"
seems to fit your argument strategy much better them mine. Throw a little "judicious selection of statistics, unwarranted conclusion, Spiteful perversion," and it would be spot on. You simply cant say E or mdma IS HARMLESS!
Noxtreme 3 years ago
"You simply cant say E or mdma IS HARMLESS!"
It's nice to see you in another lie. YOU CANNOT prove it harmful at under 40 times the standard dose. At 10 TIMES the standard dose it is still relatively harmless compared to many Rx drugs. In fact, 10 times the standard dose of MANY Rx drugs will kill you.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
FOR ALL THE FUCKTARDS WHO JUST DON'T GET IT:
MDMA kills 2 in 100,000 users
Neurotoxicity is temporary and abstinence from the drug reverses it.
Neurotoxicity can be completely countered by preloading and postloading on vitamins that are anti-oxidants.
MDMA does not impair judgement, and does not cause violence like alcohol.
Missing sleep is more neurotoxic then mdma.
The majority of deaths from E are not from MDMA but from contaminated pills.
MDMA is not physically addictive
7CATALYST25 3 years ago
I want them to test psychedelics on me.
Kaaotikock 3 years ago
AMEN Brother!
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
Hey FDBecker, do you know the date this was recorded? Thanks for posting this! Rick is one of my heroes, it's amazing just how much this one man has done considering the juggernaut forces that are against him. It took MAPS over two decades to get this study approved, and that's with all the clinical evidence that existed before MDMA was criminalised. They had to start from scratch with the whole drug war mafia empire against them.
emptyhighways 3 years ago
Noxtreme i think your comments are an absolute joke, government dusnt know anything about drugs, beause they dont take them, take it from me iv used ecstasy over 20 times and i dont feel any psychological damage or depression due to mdma use, infact if anything mdma has given me a more positive outlook on life.
snazzyrik 3 years ago
1 minute 20 seconds in, he looks like hes defently been bunning some zoots
jaykeone 3 years ago
It is my thought that this guy probably uses these drugs recreationally, enjoys them, has a habit, and wants an excuse to make them legal. A lot of people who use ecstasy become polydrug abusers because it is not taken everyday or necessarily that often but they want to repeat the experience or are trying to self medicate for depression.
mytubenow11 4 years ago
He's a doctor, trying to treat veterans with PTSD, can you hear? Or are you just stupid.
7CATALYST25 3 years ago
There are plenty of doctors out there who shouldn't be doctors, many who don't know what they are talking about, misdiagnose and mistreat all kinds of people. One MDMA tablet I'm sure is much worse than a pack of cigarettes or a six pack of beer, but if they are all bad for you than why do any of them, life is short already, why decrease the quality of life and make it shorter by damaging your body/brain for a moment of pleasure, It's foolish.
mytubenow11 3 years ago
Thank you! This is a awesome point.
Noxtreme 3 years ago
"One MDMA tablet I'm sure is much worse than a pack of cigarettes or a six pack of beer,"
No way in hell. It's nice to see your ignorant fascist pig ass surface here too. EVERYONE- meet the willfully ignorant pig. I've destroyed this character elsewhere; it should be fun here as well.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
you are a joke!
Noxtreme 3 years ago
i think what none of you realise is that this guy is appealing for MDMA to be prescribed to veterans with PTSD. not available for anyone to buy over the counter. this would be highly regulated and only available to the correct therapists, only in a therapy session. people arent going to be going round chewing their faces off
Sophiepickle175 4 years ago
Noxtreme an individual should have the right to consume substances such as ecstasy and psychedelics if they want to.
iceberg4577 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
ARE YOU KIDDING ME. Just because you love drugs doesn't mean you should make them available as a prescription. Don't fall for it America This is a drug dealer trying to start a drug dealing organization! One drug addict who made it through a big name school trying to strike it rich by exploiting the mentally I'll. SICK man you will burn.
Noxtreme 4 years ago
shut up
5680312 4 years ago
Give me one good reason!
Noxtreme 4 years ago
america already has a drug dealing organization, I can get meth under the brand name desoxyn and oxycontin are as good as heroin so if you think this guy can compete with the pharmaceutical industry think again, america already had it's drug dealing organization, and their drugs are more dangerous then the illegal ones.
7CATALYST25 3 years ago