I'm reading the comments and it appears that Kim Kardashian knows more about astrophysics than Americans know about "socialism." To all the Teabaggers I ask you this: wat specifically makes Obama a Maoist-Communist-fascist-liberal-Nazi-Muslim-Socialist that ya'll fear so much? Did he try to take away your fishing rod? Does he command you to work at labor camps? Did the big socialist government take away your Medicare (lol)? Next time u go on a rant, please take ur head out of ur ass.
Oh, and Jesus WASN'T A SOCIALIST. At what point did Jesus say go and give all of your neighbor's money to the poor? Socialism, by abdicating individual responsibility to the state, circumvents true charity and robs the individual of the opportunity of giving and more importantly, the responsibility of doing so. In every case, liberals are outdone by conservatives when it comes to giving. Why? Because conservatives recognize a sense of personal responsibility.
We are so tired of hearing the "elite" emote and do nothing to allow us to survive. I'm 100% disabled, my spousal support will be gone in 4 years and then ??? Housing was down 33% in May 2010, 40% of young adults have never been formally employed (& have tried hard). NYT puts the "real" jobless rate @ 22%! If we are headed in this awful direction, I hope Obamacare will allow for assisted suicide for us who are aging, in wheelchairs, unable to be w/o medication, or keep a rented roof overhead.
the more and more I read some of the ridiculous comments on this video I realize that Americans are poorly educated, and need to stop reading believing everything the read on the internet
socialist this, social that. I would be surprised if any of you knew why you hated socialists so much, and how Obama's policy decisions resembled a socialist agenda.
You are just thoughtless, brainless people who would follow a blind man if for a second it will save you from dealing with reality. Because over the last 8 years, the country was dying, not at the hands of "socialists," but by the hands of "conservatives."
Im not a genius but I know the President, be it Obama or Bush, is just a figurehead with no real power. Congress has the power, and I gotta tell you, with a Democratic Congress and a Democratic President, we are in for a long recession...
When you vote for the independent, instead of complaining. Also, it's not hard to make your voice heard, no matter the president or congress, if you don't hold all your faith in man.
People stopped caring about politics during the Bush adminstration and let him do whatever he wanted, just like the banking system. Then everyone wants to believe in voodoo, socialists, communists and hidden societies as being their downfall. They are their own downfall.
Until people realize that they are the ones voting for politicans who lie and create a great fantasy of American exceptionalism, there is no greater society-- underground or above ground--that can single-handedly bring down this country any better.
People need to take responsibility for all the bad that happens and not blame it on Repubs. or Dems. Each people has their own role to play.
Scott Brown was not put into power not by a shadow society, but by voters in Mass.
The average American doesn't know enough about a candidate to make an educational vote, which is why I believe it is in our country's interest to NOT allow us to decide the leaders. Even if the election process is NOT a scam, I would feel safer knowing that our elected presidents are puppets to a secret society.
@amathiowitz Sadly true as the last several Presidents have proven...........
I truly can't believe how many people still buy the BS Obama dishes out. If he really wanted to help he would not be spending money we don't have and will never be able to pay back and thus WILL(and he knows it) collapse our economy!
And the great depression and this past recession was because of democrats? Socialism is not the problem, it's deregulation and people having the free rein to do whatever they want, that is the problem.
No one said anything when all the republican congresses and presidents ruined this country, so I don't understand the fear for a democratic congress. There is no evidence that it will be worse than the previous 8 years. In fact, it doesn't matter who is in office because people have the power.
I'll admit that he's been on the right side of a few issues, but any time someone attaches the word socialist to their affiliation it scares me as much as the word fascist.
Actually, if you read many of the works of his mentors, as well as those of Hillary Clinton you will find that it is much more than just "talking about healthcare". One of his mentors was Saul Alinsky, who stated that in order to activate revolution you must take away everything from the middle class of a capitalist society, then they will be more apt to accept the revolution. OBAMA-FABIAN SOCIALIST MARXIST: ENEMY OF AMERICA, TRAITOR TO THE CONSTITUTION!
@obamaunderground GAHHH BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA AND HIS COMMUNIST POLICIES WILL KILL LIBERTY AND RICH PEOP-ER JOB CREATORS!!! HIS DISTURBING SOCIALISTIC/NAZI/FASCIST AGENDA WILL BE THE DEATH OF US ALL!!! HE WILL KILL ELDERS BY KILLING THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY!!! AHHH OBAMA'S GON' TAKE MAH GUN AWAY!!! THE SOCIALIST CONTROLLED MEDIA IS TRYING TO TRICK US!!! WE NEED TO START TEA BAGGING OUR WAY OUT OF THIS COMMUNIST MESS THAT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S FORCING US INTO!!! GARRR GOD BLESS MERICA'!!!
The Obama Tax Plan, which is unrealistic in fact, is a form of socialism. Because 39% of the country does not pay a federal income tax, and tax cut for 95% of Americans would hand over rebate checkts to people who have not earned them. This is mass welfare AT THE EXPENSE of the upper class. I have studied government for many years at Wesleyan Univ, and this is in fact a form of socialism.
OK, let's assume for a moment that ending the Bush tax cuts for the rich and giving those below 250 a tax cut is socialism. You could also say Palin's distribution of AK oil profits are socialism, or McCain's support for the bailout & bank nationalization is socialism. Let's just assume that's all true for a moment. Does the word "socialism" automatically mean such policies are bad? If so, explain why.
Furthermore, still assuming those things are socialist, doesn't the degree of socialism matter? There is no possible way you can objectively claim Obama's plans are as highly "socialist" as the socialism (or, rather, social democracy) seen in much of Europe. And certainly you can't say Obama's policies are anything like the policies of the USSR or Cuba.
By your definition of socialism, many of the most highly ranked Presidents, including Lincoln, FDR, JFK, & Ronald Reagan, were all socialists.
@LaxMan2112 the military is a form of socialism, roads are a form of socialism, the police is a form of socialism, public schools are a form of socialism. And I love the way you sympathetically describe the upper class as if they're being tortured and abused and robbed. Very true, the rich and wealthy are SUFFERING under Obama, we must give them more tax cuts! I mean they only own 43% of the total wealth! They must need more wealth! Gut the parasite middle class from the government tit!
"We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism."
Nikita Khrushchev - First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union 1958 - 1964
The term "socialism" has been used to describe very different things over the years. When people talk about modern socialism or democratic socialism, its very different from socialism in the Marxist-Leninist context.
Democratic socialism must be distinguished from the older socialism in that it does *not* call the end of capitalism. Socialist measures can be implemented democratically, in order to prevent some aspects of inequality and suffering due to the inherent nature of
how ironic is that you criticize wall street greed, but vote to obtain easy money from the rich. I do not make over 250k a year but i don't want your money. kiss my ass bill gates,i want to make my own money
Its not really increasing the taxes on the rich as much as its just ending the tax cuts they got under Bush that were extremely expensive (part of the reason the debt is so high), & even McCain said were bad before he started running. The tax code would be how it was during the Clinton years (there was a lot of economic growth then). Even Nixon had a similar, "progressive" tax code. Obama isn't instituting anything radically different or something we haven't done many time in our history.
Sarah Palin: "Obama would experiment in socialism"
politifact . com/truth-o-meter/statements/826/
McCain admitted a few days ago that he didn't actually think Obama was socialist.
On a basic level, Obama's plan is not socialist because it doesn't expand the welfare state. Please read Obama's plans for yourself, this election is too important not to! As someone who is sympathetic to "social democracy" as seen in Europe (which we call socialism), I can tell you Obama really isn't a socialist.
I don't believe I said anything about the EU in relation to social democracy...The EU discussion was just a side discussion unrelated to social democracy. When I was talking about SD in Europe, I meant Norway, Sweden, etc. Although many member states of the EU certainly have social democratic systems or at least parties.
The tax cuts are wrong because they reduce Govt income from payroll, the Govt will just get the money from other taxes ones that affect lower income more then the rich.
It shifts the Tax burden from those who can afford to pay it to those who cannot.
Government income from payroll is a tiny percentage of government revenue. 90% of revenue comes from corporate and small business taxes, these are the people who creat jobs and grow the economy. Playing us against them is foolish!
...capitalism. So Bernie Sanders' type of socialism, democratic socialism, is probably different from what you think. He would probably tell us to look at socialist Sweden or Norway, where *all* citizens get free healthcare, paid vacation, college education, daycare, & many other benefits. Taxation is of course higher than in the US. This video, while biased, might make you think about what democratic socialism is:
Also, I should point out that Obama isn't a socialist at all. He's definitely not a communist or evil socialist a la the USSR. He's not even very close to being a democratic socialist or social democrat. If letting Bush's tax cuts for the rich expire (even McCain originally said the cuts were immoral), or giving moderate tax cuts to the middle class is socialist, then I think you're nuts. Obama doesn't even support universal healthcare. Also, see:
Did he say, "...principalities and powers?" Sounds like Christian-speak to me. He must be one of those Bible-thumpers. But seriously, how are the interests of 300 million people represented by 435 congresspersons and 100 senators? It's the most colossal mass-hypnosis and willing suspension of disbelief in history. It's worse than religion...oh wait, it is religion. Save me, Mr. Messiah, you're my only hope.
I guess.... it was later... when Barry decided to tell supporters to get into peoples faces.... and convince them to vote for him!
I guess..... all that money that he has invested in ACORN.... has paid off!
I guess..... Barry was even able to steal the Election from Hillary. He must have gave in, and paid off her debt, to get her to campaign for him. You do know that Bill Clinton "HATES" obama?
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."
- Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
@Boris82much Why would socialists want to tank the economy? They're socialists *because they think it's best for the economy*. And I say this as a seriously anti-left libertarian.
@Madfoot713 What better way to take over a country and throw out capitalism: tank the economy first. You'll then have so many jobless and desperate folks utterly reliant on the ever-increasing Big Benevolent Brother Government (around 50% polled want more and more of that 'Obama government money') that enough will vote for more insane Progressive socialistic politicians. The B.B.B. Government will SAVE us all---a scam, of course. It's happening as we speak. It's been coming for years.
@Madfoot713 Just because the Progressive socialists say they feel socialism is good for the economy (what an oxi-moron) doesn't mean they don't have ulterior motives. But even if they didn't (which I don't believe), what Progressives hate the most is capitalism. To them it's evil. For me it's freedom. If a people don't have a free market, they aren't free.
A slick lawyer, a smooth-talking preacher, a fraud. Never accomplished anything in politics, never ran a business, never held a real job. Zero economic experience, zero military experience. But he sure has all the answers, doesn't he. Wake up, people.
Obama? No. You friend in Sweden prob said that because in most of Europe, what they call "socialism" is actually "social democracy" (see wiki), & most consider this a good thing b/c they get health care, free college, day care, etc. Obama, however, isn't even a social democrat, much less a socialist. When Americans say "socialism", they often use it interchangably w/ (totalitarn) communism, & dismissively label ANY attempt to reduce inequalities (Medicaid, welfare) as socialism.
Whatever you call it, it's a worst system than free enterprise. All the things you think are broken, are broken because of socialist policy, not because of capitalism. It's a system that punishes achievers and rewards the idle. It's exactly like welfare in that respect. Which is why nobody could touch America economically for so long. The more Socialist we get, the more we lose our place in the world. Socialism is the halfway house to communism. Read "the Law" by Frederic Bastiat for more info.
Actually I think real Socialism has even more problems than unregulated Capitalism. So in part I agree with what you say. Except that I don't think that the problems I see with unbridled Capitalism are caused by what little welfare & public good there is.
The answer isn't socialism, but rather tempering the extreme inequality & adverse effects that result from the otherwise good & prosperous free-market Capitalist system. For example, our healthcare system has serious problems, b/c insurance
companies are allowed to do things (in order to make a profit) that have negative consequences for the consumer. One approach would be to add some "socialist" ideas within the free market frame to reduce inequalities. That approach isn't socialism, which would entail nationalization of HC & provision to all. And as far as you saying that any socialist idea will hold us back economically, the UK spends 8% of their GDP on healthcare, we spend 16%.
I agree with most of what you typed. I don't agree with a partial socialized system. A Free Market is self-regulating. If someone has bad service, the competition is there to scoop up that business, thus the incentive is to provide great customer services. Government has regulated so much that this scenario has become harder and harder to come by, because lobbyists push legislation to give businesses special advantages over new businesses. That kind of regulation is bad bad bad. Good day to you!
The current economic crisis provides ample evidence that this is not the case- at least not in all markets. Even Greenspan acknowledged he was wrong about that in his recent congressional testimony.
Of course excessive, restrictive regulation can also lead to negative outcomes. I feel we need to consider each situation (that is, each market or submarket) separately rather than accept an ideology that applies to all cases.
Greenspan is a traitor, he thinks Obama is going to win, so he's snuggling. Community Reinvestment Act, CRA. I'll say it again, Community Reinvestment Act. Government regulation caused this problem. The democrats involved should be in jail. This is not a free market. Certain principle are utilized when needed but we haven't been walking the walk for a long time now. The ideas are sound and it's being muddled with the only thing proven to work poorly, wealth redistribution. Believe what you want.
While I think the CRA had absolutely nothing to do with the crisis, there were some Democrats who deserve blame for separate reasons...although I think most of them were just wrong, not criminal in their actions. Barney Frank could be an exception.
Even if you believe the CRA had something to do with it, won't you also admit that deregulation (eg Gramm-Leach-Bliley) was a major cause, as were the actions of Alan Greenspan? Did you know that last week the EU said those were the causes?
Franklin Raines would be in prison if his name had been Ken Lay. Deregulation of government imposed impossibilities is a good thing, deregulation of common sense criminal enforcement is a bad thing. The EU does not have America's best interest at heart, did you not know they formed the union to better compete with America? You need to spell out how Greenspan's action caused this. Forcing banks to issue sub prime loans = artificially inflating housing prices = bubble = people no pay = crash.
Of course regulation isn't always a good thing. Degree of intervention should be determined by the particular market in question, rather than following some economic ideology that is supposed to apply equally to all situations.
I would say that benefits of having the EU far outweigh the downsides. We have a great diplomatic relationship with the EU, have greatly benefited from trade with the EU, the EU has decreased Russian influence in Central & Eastern Europe & market-cratized these nations.
The Democrats refused to regulate Sub Prime mortgages. Greenspan was not behind the CRA. THe CRA FORCED banks to issue sub prime loans to unqualified people. I'll say it again, CRA. The ideology regarding that is inconsequential because Greenspan is not king. People made the decisions to buy, not Greenspan. CRA CRA and CRA. Seriously though look it up. Legislation and Regulation caused this problem. Free Markets are Self-Regulating. The regulation that's good is the kind that regulates crime.
Incredible! Barrack Obama has been campaigning for a socialist! And this man wants to be the next President? Incredible, come on guys we can't let a socialist ruin the United States.
Bernie Sanders considers himself a democratic socialist...but he's not a radical. Howard Dean & Harry Reid also endorsed him. Americans have the idea that any "socialist" idea, which is anything promoting equality in a capitalist liberal political-economic system, is inherently evil & will lead to a communist state.
Sanders is a US Senator, & was elected w/ twice as many votes as the Republican candidate. What specific positions of his do you think are radical?
We only lose if he's elected and he won't be unless he hides the fact he's a communist..hence the Lies,Denials of past Associations, Ayers, Klonskyetc..and the move to the middle to fill the hearts of the delusional with vague rhetoric.
Obama 08 = USA 00: done, finished, caput, finito, bye bye. RIP freedom & liberty - Marxist socialism here we come! Yay! Hurray for stupidity! Everything old is new again! And the millions upon millions of bodies stacked high under the banners of communism and socialism? Well, this time it's going to be different! Yes, well, every time is 'different' because it's all about 'change' and yes we can! Let's give government all of our power and maybe this time they'll turn it over to the people...
well, the plan has come from the administration, which i believe still claims to be republican.
yes, the democrats are working with that plan, and who is really surprised, but, still the socialism has come from the neocon republicans. And, as Corey Leahey said "[They are] socializing the losses, but privatizing the gains. Wall Street has discovered a great business where the upside is potentially unlimited, but the downside is ultimately put on the taxpayers' tab."
Look, what you have to realize is that right now, the same big money elitists who perpetrated that problem, are supporting Obama, not because he's the better candidate, (they're both incompetent fools), but rather because he can do the most damage to the United States. George Soros, a big money billionaire funder, supports a socialist world government, as do the Rockefellers - also big supporters. This is the orchestrated sell out of the US. The rich don't want capitalism for us, just for them.
Actually the rockefellers are supporting McCaine, (i'm sure you can find he multiple interviews that Lynn de Rockefeller did coming out against Obama after having been a part of Hillary's campaign). Also, which of the candidates has a full team of lobbyists as a campaign staff? you are actually way off on this one. Obama's tax plan also ups the taxes on the rich and cuts taxes on the middle and lower classes. As for Soros, even the New Republic credits him w/ helping oust communism in poland
"Sharon and Jay Rockefeller extolled their candidate, as the best, the brightest, and profoundly intelligent. Mrs. Rockefeller noted that her father, Charles H. Percy, once occupied the senate seat now held by the candidate.
Jay Rockefeller again did the openings, this time opining that for the first time in more than 40 years Ive met the man, the only person Ive really wanted to see as president. (Michael Powell , New York Times, July 9, 2008)
It's ummm... Lynn Forester de ROTHSCHILD ... You'd have to be extremely left wing, and self delusional, to believe that a socialist world government, envisioned by the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Soros and others in the elite, will in any way be positive for those of us on the ground floor.
Whatever Obama says, the US sinking in debt, (Oh, & China just shut off the flow of loans to US banks), that he'd have to tax you, your: parents, grand parents (even if deceased), children, grandchildren, great grand children, great great grandchildren, etc, in order to meet his promises. It's like someone w/ a maxed out credit card, overdrawn to the hilt, with a leen against their home, who just lost their job, promising to open a multimillion $ theme park & dedicate it to their dog Sparky.
You are very misinformed. Soros is evil and wants to change America and its entire culture and this war created with middle class and upper class is typical hitler/radical tactics. Don't believe a proven liar. McCain not much better I agree but Palin is an outsider and perhaps can make a difference.
care to leave any kind of reference as to why i am misinformed? even ultra-conservatives credit him with helping to oust communism from eastern europe. next, Palin is an outsider, thus an unknown, a loose cannon, and bc of that we should trust in her? what do you smoke? how much is an 1/8? Soros is evil, you say. i discount the opinion of anyone who calls their chosen enemies "evil".
No, it's coming from both sides because both sides have been compromised. Bill Clinton set this failure up with minority loan quotas, and Bush jacked up the debt. Together, these good friends, have destroyed the US economy with their socialist policies. Not surprisingly, the rich elites who created the CFR and the Trilateral Commission, along with the Bilderberg group, happen to favor a socialist world government. Their puppet politicians are simply handing it to them on a silver platter.
Communism is an invention of the Capitalist Illuminati, who commissioned and financed Carl Marx's "Manifesto", with the aim of propagating the classic divide and rule tactics of "The Art Of War". Sounds far fetched? check it for yourself.....The truth often sound stranger than fiction, but remember that the greatest trick the devil can ever pull is make you think he's not there. Lets stop being sheep people!
ok first of all communism is the utopia where gov't, class and money cease to exist and the means of production are completely controlled by the workers. This has never been achieved by any socialist movement... To say that Obama is a socialist is a load of crap. He favors some social programs but he is no Hugo Chavez. Bernie on the other hand is a Democratic Socialist. Far from a communist. They advocate a mixed economy with an emphasis on dismantling corporate oligarchy.
To say that Obama is a socialist is a load of crap? What would you call instituting a global tax on the US of 0.7 % of GDP for redistribution to so called 'poorer' nations, (the US will be a poorer nation soon if its citizens don't wake up). Obama pledged $845 billion of US dollars under the UN Anti-poverty act, which exists as a wealth redistribution scheme. He has enumerable social programs and government interventions planned. Worse than a socialist, he's a globalist/socialist.
TheSharpenedPen In all the statements that you have made on this subject,you are totally correct. I grew up in a Communist country and now have been in the USA for the past 46 years.
The USA of 1962 was not the same as what it is now. The liberal globalist are changing our Republic into a Socialist/Communist state.
Obama is the most daring to push us closer into the change that he envisions. I have experience and indoctrination by Communists.
I'm almost always correct in my assertions - would that it were not the case most times. I've studied communism & heard from those who experienced it first hand, & we in the west seem to be in 'emulation' mode. Luckily, I've never had to experience the full blown experience first hand, but I certainly see the creeping influence thereof. Obama is perhaps THE most dangerous threat that the US has ever faced. He'll send the US rocketing towards communism if given the chance. Communism is change!?
and btw, Presidents cant impose legislation the propose and pass after Congress votes. Im sure you know this as intellectually superior as you claim to be. So, he will have a vision for the country, and the most important branch congress, who represent us the people decide. Send us rocketing to Communism, thanks McCarthy, we really need that allusion to avert us from destruction by Commiebama. I enjoy your amazingly misguided pov, and hope that not too large a segment of the US agree.
Presidential Powers: "In May 2007, Bush issued a major presidential National Security Directive (National Security & Homeland Security Presidential Directive NSPD 51/HSPD 20), which would suspend constitutional government & instate broad dictatorial powers under martial law in the case of a "Catastrophic Emergency" [note: the nature of a "catastrophic emergency is undefined & left to the president's discretion; clearly it could be either an outside attack or a natural disaster.]
he is a socialist, and so was jesus. i dont know if you are a christian, but so many who are so adamantly anti-Obama are far-right (neo)conservatives that claim morality and CHristianity. Jesus told the young rich ruler aka Nichodemus it is harder for a rich amn to enter the kingdom of heaven then for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. Not that this is an argument, but really? whats wrong with trying to help the poor, it is more blessed to give than to recieve. Obama 08
Jesus was not a socialist. A socialist is one who believes that the government should play nanny to the people. This is not what Jesus believed. In fact, Jesus spoke out against such governments. What he said was that we should not become so engrossed with things physical, that we ignore the spiritual. The philosophy of charity that Jesus preached was one which came first and foremost from the individual and of their own choosing. He promoted individual, not collectivist, responsibility.
@TheSharpenedPen Sorry but your view of Socialism is very narrow and over-simplified. And as for Jesus promoting "individual" that is hardly the case. He gather 12 disciples who went just about everywhere he went and they basically were a traveling commune. Further, Jesus also said that in order to follow him one had to sell all belongs give the money to the poor first. Thus he taught putting ones self last for the greater good of others.
@frc1968 Sorry, but your view of socialism is complete and utter brainwashed regurgitation. I don't care what socialism says it is, I concern myself with what socialism is IN FACT, and what it is in fact, is a dictatorship of the few over the many. This is what it always becomes, this is what it always results in. As power is continuously concentrated in the hands of the oligarchical government, that government (ruling elite) necessarily becomes more corrupt.
@frc1968 At best you can say he was an anarcho-socialist. He encouraged individual generosity and charity, but that can't be conflated with coercive taxation.
Socialism does not actually help anybody. That's the problem. All it does is create more poor people, out of those who once had their needs met, so that all the people can be dependant on the government. That is what Obama wants. An unarmed, morally handicapped, starving for real energy, pennyless population under his boot.
Socialism is communism. Communists use the two terms interchangeably on a routine basis. The term socialism, was originally meant as a step in the process towards 'true communism'. Of course, since socialism is a trap, and since communism is 'never' the end result, let alone the real end goal (tyranny), socialism becomes defacto communism. Union of Soviet 'Socialist' Republics ring any bells? As I say, the world's choices represent increasing socialism - this time under the UN banner.
Obama's socialist backing goes back at least to 1996, when he received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) for an Illinois state senate seat. Later, the Chicago DSA newsletter reported that Obama, as a state senator, showed up to eulogize Saul Mendelson, one of the "champions" of "Chicago's democratic left" and a long-time socialist activist. is socialism what America is resorting to? sad. :(
Why the hell isn't embedding allowed? Typical socialist whores censoring. It won't do you any good. People will find out that Obama is a slut whom Marx would love. I thought Bernie Sanders was busted for fucking children anyway.
listen to Bernie run his mouth. He will not support Obama even though he came here to support Bernie. Tells you a lot about Bernie's morals! AND Howie The Coward Dean wouldn't even vote in the Primary!!! But, they will both tell you to participate. Also shows how stupid Obama is to campagin without get tape or assurances that Bernie would support him. Bernie a Socialist.
FYI - we are NOT a democracy, never have been. We are a Republic. There is a HUGE difference, look it up sheeple. In our constitutional REPUBLIC, socialist policy is unauthorized. Look that one up to. Instead of trying to change our current framework to support socialist ideas, the people who like them should move to a country where that is the norm - ie France, Holland, New Zealand, Sweden, etc. =)
it is a democracy. but you're right, it is in the constitution that it should be a republic, which is a limited democracy. but our candidate choices really suck....besides Ron Paul, who i would actually die to have prez.
All of America's choices are socialist. Socialism, or communism as it is also known, is literally sweeping the globe. I think we need a postmortem on communism. If it really died, how come it's spreading so fast?
Bernie Sanders is a great American who opened doors for so many of us who think like him. And I'm very impressed that Obama came out for Bernie! That's why Obama's got my vote!
I'm not trying to appease you. I seriously would vote for her, but I have got a bad case of Obamania. My immune system can't handle the virus of Obama's charms!
Not you too! Curse his good looks, repetitive speeches and (insert other quality). I'm beginning to think that he is like Kennedy though, I'll explain in a Private message.
Because he isn't building a progressive movement at all. Obama is a least giving lip service to doing that, and Cynthia McKinney is doing it right now (she's my pick if I don't have Obama to vote for).
All Nader does is run for office. I wish he'd get involved with strikes and real anti-war organizing. Otherwise, everything he's doing is utterly worthless. I supported him in 2000. But I think McKinney is better.
I think it's a real mistake to think that Nader doesn't do anything but "run for office." Our air and water is cleaner because of his activist work; our cars and consumer goods are safer; our work places are safer and, believe it or not, he continues that work every year, election or no election. The mainstream media just ignores him. I just think it's a mistake to dismiss him out of hand like that.
Also, my criticism of him is exactly the same that Noam Chomsky gave him in 2004. He's not built a movement. If you don't build a movement, don't run as the left alternative to the Democrats. Cynthia McKinney is far better for this purpose than he is.
Obama is the right leader to represent the USA. He can disarm our so-called enemies just by his presence as president.They will think because he is such a statesman that he is not considered a bully,or radical threat to their country which in turn will make America safer. I bet he can speak other languages as well. Hillary and McCain can't do that.
The terrorists aren't as dumb as you think. Like the animals they are, when they smell weakness, they smell blood, and then they attack. It's repeated itself here and abroad consistently.
I love how a fair number of you are bashing Vermont electing Bernie to the Senate. You can hardly bash our politics when we have 5 prominent figures in our state.
Douglas, our governor and staunch Bush-Republican. Bernie, a self proclaimed Democratic Socialist. Leahy, a Democrat we can trust, and Welch, a congressman who is at the very least, honest.
Telling, isn't it? Bernie Sanders is not even a member of the Democrat party, he's an Independent, but only because he probably couldn't get away with running as a Socialist---YET!
Vermont will be stronger. Yeah having millions of people depending on government for every aspect of their lives makes people stronger. Just ask those who have been on welfare all their lives. This guy's a communist.
Funny how fiscal responsibility goes out the window now that Obama is promising all kinds of govt handouts to those who vote for him. Dems have (righfully) criticized Bush for his fiscal irrespobsibility; yet, Obama will lead the US down the same path of fiscal insolvency.
The fact that Obama would take time from HIS campaign in IL to come and support Bernie against Tarrant's unfounded attacks and lead Vermont to make the best senate choice that we've made since Leahy and Jeffords.
This is true just because silverhachi29 said so even though he or she has given no evidence or even an argument. I guess hes the new political analyst for youtube. Thanks for the quality information!
I'm reading the comments and it appears that Kim Kardashian knows more about astrophysics than Americans know about "socialism." To all the Teabaggers I ask you this: wat specifically makes Obama a Maoist-Communist-fascist-liberal-Nazi-Muslim-Socialist that ya'll fear so much? Did he try to take away your fishing rod? Does he command you to work at labor camps? Did the big socialist government take away your Medicare (lol)? Next time u go on a rant, please take ur head out of ur ass.
wangsta25 1 week ago
You can tell this was at the beginning of his campaign because people like him and his hair is still black not grayed
dntcmbs 7 months ago
OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST = COMMUNIST.
Don't believe me? Just research what the Communists actually say about 'Socialism'.
tinydancer1965 8 months ago
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Logoned 11 months ago
Oh, and Jesus WASN'T A SOCIALIST. At what point did Jesus say go and give all of your neighbor's money to the poor? Socialism, by abdicating individual responsibility to the state, circumvents true charity and robs the individual of the opportunity of giving and more importantly, the responsibility of doing so. In every case, liberals are outdone by conservatives when it comes to giving. Why? Because conservatives recognize a sense of personal responsibility.
TheSharpenedPen 1 year ago
THE ILLUMINATI OWN YOU ALL LOOK IT UP
wellknownsource 1 year ago
We are so tired of hearing the "elite" emote and do nothing to allow us to survive. I'm 100% disabled, my spousal support will be gone in 4 years and then ??? Housing was down 33% in May 2010, 40% of young adults have never been formally employed (& have tried hard). NYT puts the "real" jobless rate @ 22%! If we are headed in this awful direction, I hope Obamacare will allow for assisted suicide for us who are aging, in wheelchairs, unable to be w/o medication, or keep a rented roof overhead.
usecori 1 year ago
Do ur reasearch on him & his agenda!...
Therealmrsixx 1 year ago
the more and more I read some of the ridiculous comments on this video I realize that Americans are poorly educated, and need to stop reading believing everything the read on the internet
Dukie30 1 year ago 15
PROOF that Obama is a SOCIALIST with socialist beliefs and ideas!
obamaunderground 2 years ago 2
socialist this, social that. I would be surprised if any of you knew why you hated socialists so much, and how Obama's policy decisions resembled a socialist agenda.
You are just thoughtless, brainless people who would follow a blind man if for a second it will save you from dealing with reality. Because over the last 8 years, the country was dying, not at the hands of "socialists," but by the hands of "conservatives."
titansgs 2 years ago
Im not a genius but I know the President, be it Obama or Bush, is just a figurehead with no real power. Congress has the power, and I gotta tell you, with a Democratic Congress and a Democratic President, we are in for a long recession...
IGrimReaperI 2 years ago
Oi agreed. When can we get the people back in power how it should be.
KoukiKid 2 years ago
When you vote for the independent, instead of complaining. Also, it's not hard to make your voice heard, no matter the president or congress, if you don't hold all your faith in man.
People stopped caring about politics during the Bush adminstration and let him do whatever he wanted, just like the banking system. Then everyone wants to believe in voodoo, socialists, communists and hidden societies as being their downfall. They are their own downfall.
titansgs 2 years ago
There is no democratic or republican power, both are puppets for an underground society...
amathiowitz 2 years ago
Until people realize that they are the ones voting for politicans who lie and create a great fantasy of American exceptionalism, there is no greater society-- underground or above ground--that can single-handedly bring down this country any better.
People need to take responsibility for all the bad that happens and not blame it on Repubs. or Dems. Each people has their own role to play.
Scott Brown was not put into power not by a shadow society, but by voters in Mass.
titansgs 2 years ago
The average American doesn't know enough about a candidate to make an educational vote, which is why I believe it is in our country's interest to NOT allow us to decide the leaders. Even if the election process is NOT a scam, I would feel safer knowing that our elected presidents are puppets to a secret society.
amathiowitz 2 years ago
@amathiowitz Sadly true as the last several Presidents have proven...........
I truly can't believe how many people still buy the BS Obama dishes out. If he really wanted to help he would not be spending money we don't have and will never be able to pay back and thus WILL(and he knows it) collapse our economy!
tcampbellla 1 year ago
And the great depression and this past recession was because of democrats? Socialism is not the problem, it's deregulation and people having the free rein to do whatever they want, that is the problem.
No one said anything when all the republican congresses and presidents ruined this country, so I don't understand the fear for a democratic congress. There is no evidence that it will be worse than the previous 8 years. In fact, it doesn't matter who is in office because people have the power.
titansgs 2 years ago
obama is a socialist. no question. also looks like he forgot to bring his best friend Hugo Chavez
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AnD0jUsTiCe0FoR0aLL 2 years ago
Bernie Sanders is openly socialist. So what does that say about Obama?
myldmnrd 2 years ago 2
What does it say about Obama? It says he has good taste in friends, Sanders is one of the best senators right now
Mantis42 2 years ago
I'll admit that he's been on the right side of a few issues, but any time someone attaches the word socialist to their affiliation it scares me as much as the word fascist.
myldmnrd 2 years ago
why...
have you ever been to norway or sweden?
and hes just talking about social healthcare.
lgerecht1 2 years ago
@lgerecht1
Actually, if you read many of the works of his mentors, as well as those of Hillary Clinton you will find that it is much more than just "talking about healthcare". One of his mentors was Saul Alinsky, who stated that in order to activate revolution you must take away everything from the middle class of a capitalist society, then they will be more apt to accept the revolution. OBAMA-FABIAN SOCIALIST MARXIST: ENEMY OF AMERICA, TRAITOR TO THE CONSTITUTION!
republicae 2 years ago
myldmnrd, it says that Obama is a socialist as we conservatives have been trying to tell everyone since his Presidential campaign started.
obamaunderground 2 years ago 2
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wangsta25 1 week ago
@obamaunderground GAHHH BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA AND HIS COMMUNIST POLICIES WILL KILL LIBERTY AND RICH PEOP-ER JOB CREATORS!!! HIS DISTURBING SOCIALISTIC/NAZI/FASCIST AGENDA WILL BE THE DEATH OF US ALL!!! HE WILL KILL ELDERS BY KILLING THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY!!! AHHH OBAMA'S GON' TAKE MAH GUN AWAY!!! THE SOCIALIST CONTROLLED MEDIA IS TRYING TO TRICK US!!! WE NEED TO START TEA BAGGING OUR WAY OUT OF THIS COMMUNIST MESS THAT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S FORCING US INTO!!! GARRR GOD BLESS MERICA'!!!
wangsta25 1 week ago
oh man!!!
collapseofthedollar 3 years ago
got damn its a lotta white people in vermont! if i was b mac and obama i wouldve been frighten!! i mean gee whiz
fububalla 3 years ago
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OBAMA IS A HYPOCRATE
newyorkbabydoll 3 years ago
YOU ARE NOT BEING CONSTRUCTIVE. By the way, were you trying to say hypocrite?
dinobrya 2 years ago
OBAMA IS GROSS
newyorkbabydoll 3 years ago
UR MOMMA!!
karlita787 2 years ago 2
I think the upper class will live. Hes just bringing in certain aspects of socialism to a sytem that is struggling.
curmosc 3 years ago
The Obama Tax Plan, which is unrealistic in fact, is a form of socialism. Because 39% of the country does not pay a federal income tax, and tax cut for 95% of Americans would hand over rebate checkts to people who have not earned them. This is mass welfare AT THE EXPENSE of the upper class. I have studied government for many years at Wesleyan Univ, and this is in fact a form of socialism.
LaxMan2112 3 years ago 2
OK, let's assume for a moment that ending the Bush tax cuts for the rich and giving those below 250 a tax cut is socialism. You could also say Palin's distribution of AK oil profits are socialism, or McCain's support for the bailout & bank nationalization is socialism. Let's just assume that's all true for a moment. Does the word "socialism" automatically mean such policies are bad? If so, explain why.
jkerouac02 3 years ago
Furthermore, still assuming those things are socialist, doesn't the degree of socialism matter? There is no possible way you can objectively claim Obama's plans are as highly "socialist" as the socialism (or, rather, social democracy) seen in much of Europe. And certainly you can't say Obama's policies are anything like the policies of the USSR or Cuba.
By your definition of socialism, many of the most highly ranked Presidents, including Lincoln, FDR, JFK, & Ronald Reagan, were all socialists.
jkerouac02 3 years ago
@LaxMan2112 the military is a form of socialism, roads are a form of socialism, the police is a form of socialism, public schools are a form of socialism. And I love the way you sympathetically describe the upper class as if they're being tortured and abused and robbed. Very true, the rich and wealthy are SUFFERING under Obama, we must give them more tax cuts! I mean they only own 43% of the total wealth! They must need more wealth! Gut the parasite middle class from the government tit!
wangsta25 1 week ago
"We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism."
Nikita Khrushchev - First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union 1958 - 1964
PainesRight 3 years ago
PainesRight-
The term "socialism" has been used to describe very different things over the years. When people talk about modern socialism or democratic socialism, its very different from socialism in the Marxist-Leninist context.
Democratic socialism must be distinguished from the older socialism in that it does *not* call the end of capitalism. Socialist measures can be implemented democratically, in order to prevent some aspects of inequality and suffering due to the inherent nature of
jkerouac02 3 years ago
you are silly
socialism is socialism
how ironic is that you criticize wall street greed, but vote to obtain easy money from the rich. I do not make over 250k a year but i don't want your money. kiss my ass bill gates,i want to make my own money
urbanlegend420 3 years ago
Its not really increasing the taxes on the rich as much as its just ending the tax cuts they got under Bush that were extremely expensive (part of the reason the debt is so high), & even McCain said were bad before he started running. The tax code would be how it was during the Clinton years (there was a lot of economic growth then). Even Nixon had a similar, "progressive" tax code. Obama isn't instituting anything radically different or something we haven't done many time in our history.
jkerouac02 3 years ago
Sarah Palin: "Obama would experiment in socialism"
politifact . com/truth-o-meter/statements/826/
McCain admitted a few days ago that he didn't actually think Obama was socialist.
On a basic level, Obama's plan is not socialist because it doesn't expand the welfare state. Please read Obama's plans for yourself, this election is too important not to! As someone who is sympathetic to "social democracy" as seen in Europe (which we call socialism), I can tell you Obama really isn't a socialist.
jkerouac02 3 years ago
The EU, social democracy, are you kidding! There's nothing democratic about the EU.
gurnstein 3 years ago
I don't believe I said anything about the EU in relation to social democracy...The EU discussion was just a side discussion unrelated to social democracy. When I was talking about SD in Europe, I meant Norway, Sweden, etc. Although many member states of the EU certainly have social democratic systems or at least parties.
jkerouac02 3 years ago
No one wants to give you money.
The tax cuts are wrong because they reduce Govt income from payroll, the Govt will just get the money from other taxes ones that affect lower income more then the rich.
It shifts the Tax burden from those who can afford to pay it to those who cannot.
xdir 2 years ago
Government income from payroll is a tiny percentage of government revenue. 90% of revenue comes from corporate and small business taxes, these are the people who creat jobs and grow the economy. Playing us against them is foolish!
TommyNawrocki 2 years ago
@jkerouac02 don't bother explaining detailed facts to Teabaggers; they only believe what the Bible, corporations, and Rish Limbaugh says.
wangsta25 1 week ago
...capitalism. So Bernie Sanders' type of socialism, democratic socialism, is probably different from what you think. He would probably tell us to look at socialist Sweden or Norway, where *all* citizens get free healthcare, paid vacation, college education, daycare, & many other benefits. Taxation is of course higher than in the US. This video, while biased, might make you think about what democratic socialism is:
watch?v=k4L6-0WRfSA
jkerouac02 3 years ago
Also, I should point out that Obama isn't a socialist at all. He's definitely not a communist or evil socialist a la the USSR. He's not even very close to being a democratic socialist or social democrat. If letting Bush's tax cuts for the rich expire (even McCain originally said the cuts were immoral), or giving moderate tax cuts to the middle class is socialist, then I think you're nuts. Obama doesn't even support universal healthcare. Also, see:
watch?v=bt40s7IKPwE
*start watching @ 1:40*
jkerouac02 3 years ago
I wonder if they're still working on that. It seems so.
fuzzyabomb 3 years ago
Did he say, "...principalities and powers?" Sounds like Christian-speak to me. He must be one of those Bible-thumpers. But seriously, how are the interests of 300 million people represented by 435 congresspersons and 100 senators? It's the most colossal mass-hypnosis and willing suspension of disbelief in history. It's worse than religion...oh wait, it is religion. Save me, Mr. Messiah, you're my only hope.
WillJStudio 3 years ago
Bernie and Barack two dirty filthy communists!
themaclady 3 years ago
Obama truly understands what has gone wrong under the Republicans. Bernie is just a sign of the problem, Obama is part of the solution.
wefond 3 years ago
wefond people like YOU who are ignorant are part the 'problem'
themaclady 3 years ago
I guess.... it was later... when Barry decided to tell supporters to get into peoples faces.... and convince them to vote for him!
I guess..... all that money that he has invested in ACORN.... has paid off!
I guess..... Barry was even able to steal the Election from Hillary. He must have gave in, and paid off her debt, to get her to campaign for him. You do know that Bill Clinton "HATES" obama?
emmathird 3 years ago
Who requested to disable embedding? does someone not want Obama to be seen with a socialist? That might not look too good.
mitchalx 3 years ago
Obama, baby! Change is coming!!!
winsomehill 3 years ago
Screw Obama! Pray he falls off a cliff to save the nation!
themaclady 3 years ago
wow is this video suppose to prove he is a socialist. come one dudes you guys are gonna need more ammo than that. This is simply a shoot and a miss.
postboy08 3 years ago
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."
- Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
JayAreDubya 3 years ago 6
That's the plan. How did you find out?
westphalianprinz 3 years ago
@JayAreDubya Norman Thomas is WRONG!!!!!!!
pjmgame 1 year ago
@JayAreDubya Thank you for this. It's the truth and it's happening now. No better way to usher in socialism than by bancrupting the economy first.
Boris82much 1 year ago
@Boris82much Why would socialists want to tank the economy? They're socialists *because they think it's best for the economy*. And I say this as a seriously anti-left libertarian.
Madfoot713 6 months ago
@Madfoot713 What better way to take over a country and throw out capitalism: tank the economy first. You'll then have so many jobless and desperate folks utterly reliant on the ever-increasing Big Benevolent Brother Government (around 50% polled want more and more of that 'Obama government money') that enough will vote for more insane Progressive socialistic politicians. The B.B.B. Government will SAVE us all---a scam, of course. It's happening as we speak. It's been coming for years.
Boris82much 6 months ago
@Madfoot713 Just because the Progressive socialists say they feel socialism is good for the economy (what an oxi-moron) doesn't mean they don't have ulterior motives. But even if they didn't (which I don't believe), what Progressives hate the most is capitalism. To them it's evil. For me it's freedom. If a people don't have a free market, they aren't free.
Boris82much 6 months ago
@Madfoot713
Word "libertarian" was actually hijacked from the socialists, so...
(Seriously, I'm not kidding - look up Libertarian Socialism, or small-govt. socialism).
treid100182 4 months ago
@treid100182 I know, but what's your point? @_@
Madfoot713 4 months ago
@JayAreDubya SO LET IT BE!!!! Capitalism is a monster.Socialism is salvation from the horrors of the exploitating machine in place right now.
MartyredxMaiden 6 months ago
mccain PALIN 08
pattonk4 3 years ago
OBAMA 08
milliondollaboss 3 years ago
A slick lawyer, a smooth-talking preacher, a fraud. Never accomplished anything in politics, never ran a business, never held a real job. Zero economic experience, zero military experience. But he sure has all the answers, doesn't he. Wake up, people.
Jhensy2001 3 years ago 4
Is he a socialist or what?
Geezus even my friend from Sweeden said he is a socialist. lol
scottinwny 3 years ago 4
scottinwny?
Obama? No. You friend in Sweden prob said that because in most of Europe, what they call "socialism" is actually "social democracy" (see wiki), & most consider this a good thing b/c they get health care, free college, day care, etc. Obama, however, isn't even a social democrat, much less a socialist. When Americans say "socialism", they often use it interchangably w/ (totalitarn) communism, & dismissively label ANY attempt to reduce inequalities (Medicaid, welfare) as socialism.
jkerouac02 3 years ago
Whatever you call it, it's a worst system than free enterprise. All the things you think are broken, are broken because of socialist policy, not because of capitalism. It's a system that punishes achievers and rewards the idle. It's exactly like welfare in that respect. Which is why nobody could touch America economically for so long. The more Socialist we get, the more we lose our place in the world. Socialism is the halfway house to communism. Read "the Law" by Frederic Bastiat for more info.
AtomicCombustion 3 years ago
Actually I think real Socialism has even more problems than unregulated Capitalism. So in part I agree with what you say. Except that I don't think that the problems I see with unbridled Capitalism are caused by what little welfare & public good there is.
The answer isn't socialism, but rather tempering the extreme inequality & adverse effects that result from the otherwise good & prosperous free-market Capitalist system. For example, our healthcare system has serious problems, b/c insurance
jkerouac02 3 years ago
companies are allowed to do things (in order to make a profit) that have negative consequences for the consumer. One approach would be to add some "socialist" ideas within the free market frame to reduce inequalities. That approach isn't socialism, which would entail nationalization of HC & provision to all. And as far as you saying that any socialist idea will hold us back economically, the UK spends 8% of their GDP on healthcare, we spend 16%.
jkerouac02 3 years ago
I agree with most of what you typed. I don't agree with a partial socialized system. A Free Market is self-regulating. If someone has bad service, the competition is there to scoop up that business, thus the incentive is to provide great customer services. Government has regulated so much that this scenario has become harder and harder to come by, because lobbyists push legislation to give businesses special advantages over new businesses. That kind of regulation is bad bad bad. Good day to you!
AtomicCombustion 3 years ago
"A Free Market is self-regulating."
The current economic crisis provides ample evidence that this is not the case- at least not in all markets. Even Greenspan acknowledged he was wrong about that in his recent congressional testimony.
Of course excessive, restrictive regulation can also lead to negative outcomes. I feel we need to consider each situation (that is, each market or submarket) separately rather than accept an ideology that applies to all cases.
jkerouac02 3 years ago
Greenspan is a traitor, he thinks Obama is going to win, so he's snuggling. Community Reinvestment Act, CRA. I'll say it again, Community Reinvestment Act. Government regulation caused this problem. The democrats involved should be in jail. This is not a free market. Certain principle are utilized when needed but we haven't been walking the walk for a long time now. The ideas are sound and it's being muddled with the only thing proven to work poorly, wealth redistribution. Believe what you want.
AtomicCombustion 3 years ago
While I think the CRA had absolutely nothing to do with the crisis, there were some Democrats who deserve blame for separate reasons...although I think most of them were just wrong, not criminal in their actions. Barney Frank could be an exception.
Even if you believe the CRA had something to do with it, won't you also admit that deregulation (eg Gramm-Leach-Bliley) was a major cause, as were the actions of Alan Greenspan? Did you know that last week the EU said those were the causes?
jkerouac02 3 years ago
Franklin Raines would be in prison if his name had been Ken Lay. Deregulation of government imposed impossibilities is a good thing, deregulation of common sense criminal enforcement is a bad thing. The EU does not have America's best interest at heart, did you not know they formed the union to better compete with America? You need to spell out how Greenspan's action caused this. Forcing banks to issue sub prime loans = artificially inflating housing prices = bubble = people no pay = crash.
AtomicCombustion 3 years ago
Of course regulation isn't always a good thing. Degree of intervention should be determined by the particular market in question, rather than following some economic ideology that is supposed to apply equally to all situations.
I would say that benefits of having the EU far outweigh the downsides. We have a great diplomatic relationship with the EU, have greatly benefited from trade with the EU, the EU has decreased Russian influence in Central & Eastern Europe & market-cratized these nations.
jkerouac02 3 years ago
Greenspan played a huge role, along with deregulation & the general boom/bust cyclical nature of unrestricted free markets.
Greenspan has now admitted that he made mistakes. His culpability is 2-fold (actually there are other reasons, but here's the 2 main ones):
-He slashed key rates over and over & kept interest rates low for too long. People got financing out of their means.
-He did not regulate subprime mortgages or banking despite obvious problems. His ideology is wrong.
jkerouac02 3 years ago
The Democrats refused to regulate Sub Prime mortgages. Greenspan was not behind the CRA. THe CRA FORCED banks to issue sub prime loans to unqualified people. I'll say it again, CRA. The ideology regarding that is inconsequential because Greenspan is not king. People made the decisions to buy, not Greenspan. CRA CRA and CRA. Seriously though look it up. Legislation and Regulation caused this problem. Free Markets are Self-Regulating. The regulation that's good is the kind that regulates crime.
AtomicCombustion 3 years ago
GREENSPAN
newsweek . com/id/159346
reuters . com/article/rbssFinancialServicesAndRealEstateNews/idUSLL2790120081021
nytimes . com/2008/10/24/business/economy/24panel . html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
seattletimes . nwsource . com/html/nationworld/2008304827_greenspan24 . html
economicshelp . org/2008/10/mistakes-of-alan-greenspan . html
wikipedia . org/wiki/Alan_Greenspan
jkerouac02 3 years ago
Well at least the crying baby in the video knows that hes a bad man.
syndicate5 3 years ago 4
Incredible! Barrack Obama has been campaigning for a socialist! And this man wants to be the next President? Incredible, come on guys we can't let a socialist ruin the United States.
Londres2410 3 years ago 4
I can not imagine the terror that will ensue if this man becomes President.
I pray to the Lord Almighty he does not.
God, I hope he does not become President.
majormotion731 3 years ago 4
Londres2410-
Bernie Sanders considers himself a democratic socialist...but he's not a radical. Howard Dean & Harry Reid also endorsed him. Americans have the idea that any "socialist" idea, which is anything promoting equality in a capitalist liberal political-economic system, is inherently evil & will lead to a communist state.
Sanders is a US Senator, & was elected w/ twice as many votes as the Republican candidate. What specific positions of his do you think are radical?
jkerouac02 3 years ago
We aren't in the 80s, Loundres2410. The Cold War ended.
Sociocognitivism 2 years ago
government can run your life better than you
Edicius4 3 years ago
Those that think Obama is a socialist have psychotic problems. I am a socialist, Obama is a capitalist democrat. END...you ALL LOSE
amsterdam78 3 years ago
We only lose if he's elected and he won't be unless he hides the fact he's a communist..hence the Lies,Denials of past Associations, Ayers, Klonskyetc..and the move to the middle to fill the hearts of the delusional with vague rhetoric.
Bludyhands 3 years ago
Calling a Capitalist democrat a Communist over a socialist is even worse. You lose twice as hard.
amsterdam78 3 years ago
let me repeat Obama is a COMMUNIST and if FAKE and PHONEY!
republicansrule 3 years ago
communist or socialist !!! this is FAKE and PHONEY!!!
republicansrule 3 years ago
Obama 08 = USA 00: done, finished, caput, finito, bye bye. RIP freedom & liberty - Marxist socialism here we come! Yay! Hurray for stupidity! Everything old is new again! And the millions upon millions of bodies stacked high under the banners of communism and socialism? Well, this time it's going to be different! Yes, well, every time is 'different' because it's all about 'change' and yes we can! Let's give government all of our power and maybe this time they'll turn it over to the people...
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago 3
seems the socialism is coming from the neocons, not the democrats. The Sharpened Pen = 00
coach10brown 3 years ago
Well, you're dead wrong there. Socialism is coming from both sides hard and fast.
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago
well, the plan has come from the administration, which i believe still claims to be republican.
yes, the democrats are working with that plan, and who is really surprised, but, still the socialism has come from the neocon republicans. And, as Corey Leahey said "[They are] socializing the losses, but privatizing the gains. Wall Street has discovered a great business where the upside is potentially unlimited, but the downside is ultimately put on the taxpayers' tab."
coach10brown 3 years ago
Look, what you have to realize is that right now, the same big money elitists who perpetrated that problem, are supporting Obama, not because he's the better candidate, (they're both incompetent fools), but rather because he can do the most damage to the United States. George Soros, a big money billionaire funder, supports a socialist world government, as do the Rockefellers - also big supporters. This is the orchestrated sell out of the US. The rich don't want capitalism for us, just for them.
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago 2
Actually the rockefellers are supporting McCaine, (i'm sure you can find he multiple interviews that Lynn de Rockefeller did coming out against Obama after having been a part of Hillary's campaign). Also, which of the candidates has a full team of lobbyists as a campaign staff? you are actually way off on this one. Obama's tax plan also ups the taxes on the rich and cuts taxes on the middle and lower classes. As for Soros, even the New Republic credits him w/ helping oust communism in poland
coach10brown 3 years ago
Really?
Oh, I'm way off am I?
"Sharon and Jay Rockefeller extolled their candidate, as the best, the brightest, and profoundly intelligent. Mrs. Rockefeller noted that her father, Charles H. Percy, once occupied the senate seat now held by the candidate.
Jay Rockefeller again did the openings, this time opining that for the first time in more than 40 years Ive met the man, the only person Ive really wanted to see as president. (Michael Powell , New York Times, July 9, 2008)
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago
The Rothschilds endorse McCain: Both abroad in England, and closer to home.
watch?v=hEwlc7zjGpU&feature=related
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago
It's ummm... Lynn Forester de ROTHSCHILD ... You'd have to be extremely left wing, and self delusional, to believe that a socialist world government, envisioned by the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Soros and others in the elite, will in any way be positive for those of us on the ground floor.
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago
Whatever Obama says, the US sinking in debt, (Oh, & China just shut off the flow of loans to US banks), that he'd have to tax you, your: parents, grand parents (even if deceased), children, grandchildren, great grand children, great great grandchildren, etc, in order to meet his promises. It's like someone w/ a maxed out credit card, overdrawn to the hilt, with a leen against their home, who just lost their job, promising to open a multimillion $ theme park & dedicate it to their dog Sparky.
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago
You are very misinformed. Soros is evil and wants to change America and its entire culture and this war created with middle class and upper class is typical hitler/radical tactics. Don't believe a proven liar. McCain not much better I agree but Palin is an outsider and perhaps can make a difference.
sadiesasha83 3 years ago 2
How can Palin make a difference?
In my mind, her delaying the trooper investigation is making her look bad.
Not to mention....she may relate to some americans with the way she acts/talks.....but not me
Gen3Benz 3 years ago
care to leave any kind of reference as to why i am misinformed? even ultra-conservatives credit him with helping to oust communism from eastern europe. next, Palin is an outsider, thus an unknown, a loose cannon, and bc of that we should trust in her? what do you smoke? how much is an 1/8? Soros is evil, you say. i discount the opinion of anyone who calls their chosen enemies "evil".
as for these problems, no one is free from blame.
coach10brown 3 years ago
No, it's coming from both sides because both sides have been compromised. Bill Clinton set this failure up with minority loan quotas, and Bush jacked up the debt. Together, these good friends, have destroyed the US economy with their socialist policies. Not surprisingly, the rich elites who created the CFR and the Trilateral Commission, along with the Bilderberg group, happen to favor a socialist world government. Their puppet politicians are simply handing it to them on a silver platter.
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago
watch?v=u2AzdpFb6uo
Bill Clinton's part in the financial melt down.
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago
Communism is an invention of the Capitalist Illuminati, who commissioned and financed Carl Marx's "Manifesto", with the aim of propagating the classic divide and rule tactics of "The Art Of War". Sounds far fetched? check it for yourself.....The truth often sound stranger than fiction, but remember that the greatest trick the devil can ever pull is make you think he's not there. Lets stop being sheep people!
MrMilktheFloFlinga 3 years ago
there are somethings in life we can not stop. and the srewed up part about this that there nothin you can do about this IF IT IS GOING TO BE TRUE.
2TEARSINABUCKET 3 years ago
ok first of all communism is the utopia where gov't, class and money cease to exist and the means of production are completely controlled by the workers. This has never been achieved by any socialist movement... To say that Obama is a socialist is a load of crap. He favors some social programs but he is no Hugo Chavez. Bernie on the other hand is a Democratic Socialist. Far from a communist. They advocate a mixed economy with an emphasis on dismantling corporate oligarchy.
markasmism 3 years ago
To say that Obama is a socialist is a load of crap? What would you call instituting a global tax on the US of 0.7 % of GDP for redistribution to so called 'poorer' nations, (the US will be a poorer nation soon if its citizens don't wake up). Obama pledged $845 billion of US dollars under the UN Anti-poverty act, which exists as a wealth redistribution scheme. He has enumerable social programs and government interventions planned. Worse than a socialist, he's a globalist/socialist.
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago
TheSharpenedPen In all the statements that you have made on this subject,you are totally correct. I grew up in a Communist country and now have been in the USA for the past 46 years.
The USA of 1962 was not the same as what it is now. The liberal globalist are changing our Republic into a Socialist/Communist state.
Obama is the most daring to push us closer into the change that he envisions. I have experience and indoctrination by Communists.
I know what I'm saying.
oroweight 3 years ago
I'm almost always correct in my assertions - would that it were not the case most times. I've studied communism & heard from those who experienced it first hand, & we in the west seem to be in 'emulation' mode. Luckily, I've never had to experience the full blown experience first hand, but I certainly see the creeping influence thereof. Obama is perhaps THE most dangerous threat that the US has ever faced. He'll send the US rocketing towards communism if given the chance. Communism is change!?
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago
there are somethings in life we can not stop. and the srewed up part about this that there nothin you can do about this IF IT IS GOING TO BE TRUE.
2TEARSINABUCKET 3 years ago
and btw, Presidents cant impose legislation the propose and pass after Congress votes. Im sure you know this as intellectually superior as you claim to be. So, he will have a vision for the country, and the most important branch congress, who represent us the people decide. Send us rocketing to Communism, thanks McCarthy, we really need that allusion to avert us from destruction by Commiebama. I enjoy your amazingly misguided pov, and hope that not too large a segment of the US agree.
philosophiaafricanus 3 years ago
Presidential Powers: "In May 2007, Bush issued a major presidential National Security Directive (National Security & Homeland Security Presidential Directive NSPD 51/HSPD 20), which would suspend constitutional government & instate broad dictatorial powers under martial law in the case of a "Catastrophic Emergency" [note: the nature of a "catastrophic emergency is undefined & left to the president's discretion; clearly it could be either an outside attack or a natural disaster.]
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago 2
there are somethings in life we can not stop. and the srewed up part about this that there nothin you can do about this IF IT IS GOING TO BE TRUE.
2TEARSINABUCKET 3 years ago
he is a socialist, and so was jesus. i dont know if you are a christian, but so many who are so adamantly anti-Obama are far-right (neo)conservatives that claim morality and CHristianity. Jesus told the young rich ruler aka Nichodemus it is harder for a rich amn to enter the kingdom of heaven then for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. Not that this is an argument, but really? whats wrong with trying to help the poor, it is more blessed to give than to recieve. Obama 08
philosophiaafricanus 3 years ago
Jesus was not a socialist. A socialist is one who believes that the government should play nanny to the people. This is not what Jesus believed. In fact, Jesus spoke out against such governments. What he said was that we should not become so engrossed with things physical, that we ignore the spiritual. The philosophy of charity that Jesus preached was one which came first and foremost from the individual and of their own choosing. He promoted individual, not collectivist, responsibility.
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago 5
@TheSharpenedPen Sorry but your view of Socialism is very narrow and over-simplified. And as for Jesus promoting "individual" that is hardly the case. He gather 12 disciples who went just about everywhere he went and they basically were a traveling commune. Further, Jesus also said that in order to follow him one had to sell all belongs give the money to the poor first. Thus he taught putting ones self last for the greater good of others.
frc1968 1 year ago
@frc1968 Sorry, but your view of socialism is complete and utter brainwashed regurgitation. I don't care what socialism says it is, I concern myself with what socialism is IN FACT, and what it is in fact, is a dictatorship of the few over the many. This is what it always becomes, this is what it always results in. As power is continuously concentrated in the hands of the oligarchical government, that government (ruling elite) necessarily becomes more corrupt.
TheSharpenedPen 1 year ago
@frc1968 At best you can say he was an anarcho-socialist. He encouraged individual generosity and charity, but that can't be conflated with coercive taxation.
Madfoot713 6 months ago
Socialism does not actually help anybody. That's the problem. All it does is create more poor people, out of those who once had their needs met, so that all the people can be dependant on the government. That is what Obama wants. An unarmed, morally handicapped, starving for real energy, pennyless population under his boot.
pimpdalyrical 3 years ago
Communism is a branch of socialism. they are not the same thing
aicfnm 3 years ago
Google "Marxists/Socialists/Communists for Obama"
jbryant13 3 years ago
"Socialism, or communism as it is also known, is literally sweeping the globe."
You are seriously deluded. It is capitalism, of a neoliberal variety, that is sweeping the world.
discursivity 3 years ago
Socialism is communism. Communists use the two terms interchangeably on a routine basis. The term socialism, was originally meant as a step in the process towards 'true communism'. Of course, since socialism is a trap, and since communism is 'never' the end result, let alone the real end goal (tyranny), socialism becomes defacto communism. Union of Soviet 'Socialist' Republics ring any bells? As I say, the world's choices represent increasing socialism - this time under the UN banner.
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago
well said....
MrMilktheFloFlinga 3 years ago
Obama's socialist backing goes back at least to 1996, when he received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) for an Illinois state senate seat. Later, the Chicago DSA newsletter reported that Obama, as a state senator, showed up to eulogize Saul Mendelson, one of the "champions" of "Chicago's democratic left" and a long-time socialist activist. is socialism what America is resorting to? sad. :(
optical76 3 years ago 3
Why the hell isn't embedding allowed? Typical socialist whores censoring. It won't do you any good. People will find out that Obama is a slut whom Marx would love. I thought Bernie Sanders was busted for fucking children anyway.
rsassy 3 years ago
listen to Bernie run his mouth. He will not support Obama even though he came here to support Bernie. Tells you a lot about Bernie's morals! AND Howie The Coward Dean wouldn't even vote in the Primary!!! But, they will both tell you to participate. Also shows how stupid Obama is to campagin without get tape or assurances that Bernie would support him. Bernie a Socialist.
concerned00citizen 3 years ago
FYI - we are NOT a democracy, never have been. We are a Republic. There is a HUGE difference, look it up sheeple. In our constitutional REPUBLIC, socialist policy is unauthorized. Look that one up to. Instead of trying to change our current framework to support socialist ideas, the people who like them should move to a country where that is the norm - ie France, Holland, New Zealand, Sweden, etc. =)
jonranwill 3 years ago 5
it is a democracy. but you're right, it is in the constitution that it should be a republic, which is a limited democracy. but our candidate choices really suck....besides Ron Paul, who i would actually die to have prez.
optical76 3 years ago
All of America's choices are socialist. Socialism, or communism as it is also known, is literally sweeping the globe. I think we need a postmortem on communism. If it really died, how come it's spreading so fast?
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago
socialism is not communism.
crazygolfer333 3 years ago
Cradle-to-grave socialists, both.
JustAFocus 3 years ago 7
You mention it as if it's a bad thing.
053bss 3 years ago
lol...yes, yes I do.
JustAFocus 3 years ago
communism is like a cow...well milked but poorly fed....
mike1111qq 3 years ago 2
Cradle-to-grave socialists, both.
JustAFocus 3 years ago 5
I really can't listen to political speches anymore, they drive me nuts hering the same things over and over.
johnlepo 3 years ago 2
Bernie Sanders is a great American who opened doors for so many of us who think like him. And I'm very impressed that Obama came out for Bernie! That's why Obama's got my vote!
westphalianprinz 3 years ago
Sellout!
johnlepo 3 years ago 2
Yes, but only if Obama is the nominee. I'll vote McKinney if Hillary is the nominee.
westphalianprinz 3 years ago
Ah, you're just trying to appease me! Bloody Nader is getting all the attention.
johnlepo 3 years ago
Nader is worthless!
I'm not trying to appease you. I seriously would vote for her, but I have got a bad case of Obamania. My immune system can't handle the virus of Obama's charms!
westphalianprinz 3 years ago 2
Not you too! Curse his good looks, repetitive speeches and (insert other quality). I'm beginning to think that he is like Kennedy though, I'll explain in a Private message.
johnlepo 3 years ago
Nader is worthless?
buddhagem 3 years ago
Because he isn't building a progressive movement at all. Obama is a least giving lip service to doing that, and Cynthia McKinney is doing it right now (she's my pick if I don't have Obama to vote for).
All Nader does is run for office. I wish he'd get involved with strikes and real anti-war organizing. Otherwise, everything he's doing is utterly worthless. I supported him in 2000. But I think McKinney is better.
westphalianprinz 3 years ago
I think it's a real mistake to think that Nader doesn't do anything but "run for office." Our air and water is cleaner because of his activist work; our cars and consumer goods are safer; our work places are safer and, believe it or not, he continues that work every year, election or no election. The mainstream media just ignores him. I just think it's a mistake to dismiss him out of hand like that.
buddhagem 3 years ago
He hasn't done anything lately.
Why not Cynthia McKinney.
And Nader is very reactionary on immigration.
westphalianprinz 3 years ago
Also, my criticism of him is exactly the same that Noam Chomsky gave him in 2004. He's not built a movement. If you don't build a movement, don't run as the left alternative to the Democrats. Cynthia McKinney is far better for this purpose than he is.
westphalianprinz 3 years ago
Obama is the right leader to represent the USA. He can disarm our so-called enemies just by his presence as president.They will think because he is such a statesman that he is not considered a bully,or radical threat to their country which in turn will make America safer. I bet he can speak other languages as well. Hillary and McCain can't do that.
What a gift. Barack the vote!
bigreef2007 3 years ago
No wrong!
The terrorists aren't as dumb as you think. Like the animals they are, when they smell weakness, they smell blood, and then they attack. It's repeated itself here and abroad consistently.
jmurf999 3 years ago
Barack es no hipocrita, mentiroso o muslim.
I love how a fair number of you are bashing Vermont electing Bernie to the Senate. You can hardly bash our politics when we have 5 prominent figures in our state.
Douglas, our governor and staunch Bush-Republican. Bernie, a self proclaimed Democratic Socialist. Leahy, a Democrat we can trust, and Welch, a congressman who is at the very least, honest.
So what if we like Obama?
valmils 3 years ago
Hipocrita y Mentiroso , es Musulman .
TamborPro 3 years ago
Telling, isn't it? Bernie Sanders is not even a member of the Democrat party, he's an Independent, but only because he probably couldn't get away with running as a Socialist---YET!
alteregosuzy 3 years ago 2
Vermont will be stronger. Yeah having millions of people depending on government for every aspect of their lives makes people stronger. Just ask those who have been on welfare all their lives. This guy's a communist.
ExZonie 3 years ago 2
Liberals cheer like girls. "Woooo" in soprano. Sheesh.
ExZonie 3 years ago
A liberal (secular progressive) running like a republican endorsing a socialist
mouthbreathing 3 years ago
Funny how fiscal responsibility goes out the window now that Obama is promising all kinds of govt handouts to those who vote for him. Dems have (righfully) criticized Bush for his fiscal irrespobsibility; yet, Obama will lead the US down the same path of fiscal insolvency.
Rootstriker 3 years ago 4
The fact that Obama would take time from HIS campaign in IL to come and support Bernie against Tarrant's unfounded attacks and lead Vermont to make the best senate choice that we've made since Leahy and Jeffords.
Obama will most likely win Vermont on March 4th.
valmils 3 years ago
Obama is an old school communist "street organizer" who happened to make it to the big time.
DocGorilla 3 years ago 3
Anyone That votes for Obama is a Socalist.
silverhachi29 4 years ago 10
This is true just because silverhachi29 said so even though he or she has given no evidence or even an argument. I guess hes the new political analyst for youtube. Thanks for the quality information!