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  • $3000 for the 42" plasma not the warranty, just elaborating

  • one time i bought an hdmi cable for $105 dollars which stopped working, i bought a $70 hdmi cable that has been working great.

  • Dynex (futureshop/bestbuy) cost 1.50 for staff to purchase , there 30 bucks with tax regularly , all the tv salesmen swear on there grandmothers graves its higher picture quality , but ive talked to calibrators , installers ect ect and they all say its the same . So have fun with your Lifetime warranty. i paid 1.50 for something you paid 200 dollars for

  • This was hilarious to watch. Not only do you see a Monster cable get bitch-slapped by a low-budget one, but you actually hear a guy saying how proud people are to get ramed up the arse...

    Denial will only get you so far... If you really wanna know the truth, study electrical engineering. Might be a little hard to swallow the truth ;)

    Cheers!

  • On 60hz TV screens you can't notice the difference, if you go with 120 or 240 hz, there's is a small difference that can be seen on a larger screen. Also, it depends on the cable's length, digital signal is all about 0/1 (off and on), so you see a difference with packet loss, which can occur with longer cable mixed with interference. With their benchmark they had only one receiver and one tv per side, and usual HT room can have multiple cables all together. Keep that in mind.

  • ok but i dont get it..you want to be able to go to a store to buy your next tv right?? so how come you want these same stores make as little profit as possible and eventually see them close down.??? you guys are a joke.

  • CBC actually retracted their statements after a Monster conference in New York. Please vote this up, and don't take this report for gospel.

  • LOL most stupid video ever , its kinda normal that a freaking 300$ calbe do the same shit as a 12$ cable when u put on a Cable box whit only a 720p resolution and a 60hz tv !!!! Try that 12$ cable on a 3d tv ,240hz , 1080p and tell me if u gona have the same results lol CBC Tech is one retarded tech , and his is the top tech on cbc ROLF !! For the the Rest peep always buy the cable for your needs and be smart !!

  • @G0dAlp

    ya ya ya ok ok whatever

    so I guess you recently bought a 1080p 3d tv and got fooled into paying like $500 on cables and you are NOW IN DENIAL lol lol

    its ok, even if you bought a $100 plastic optical cable we know its better than the $5 one at the flea markets lol (sarcastic tone)

    stop lying to yourself and everyone digital is digital, whether its 240 hz or 600 hz(which by the way has been around for the longest time noob)

  • another scam that future shop likes to use is to offer non existent sale items...

    if u see something that seems very cheap...check the website before you waste your time to physically go into their store...

    you will likely see that the sale item is marked as unavailable online or unavailable in store...

    they are really just baiting you to come to the store...so you end up buying some other product...

    hopefully cbc will return my call soon regarding this...

  • @usernameisrobert wow shocking enough a store doesn't have access to the same items a website which draws from a massive warehouse... crazy

  • Misinformed from an un-educated clerk, the difference is the speed of the cable, higher speeds are more expensive, monster cable makes premium cables at premium speeds resulting in a more expensive product. The "CBC Tech" tested an hdmi cable ON A DVD PLAYER, what dvd player outputs 1080p and 120hz?

    This report is a perfect example of a retarded consumer audience

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  • @Macman16 upconverting DVD players output 1080p @ 60Hz. only 3D Blu-ray players and computers can output at 120Hz, and most non-3D hi-def TVs can only receive 60Hz anyway. This video is a good example of "con-artist-ism" i.e. Monster Cable.

  • bandwidth look it up cbc and maybe you will know whats going on

  • @brogordo009

    What does the extra bandwidth transfer? You cant send more information to the TV than is available.

  • Audioquest sells a set of "high end" HDMI cables named after food and earth materials like evergreen, chocolate, carbon, cinnamon and Diamond. They range from 50 dollars a meter to 1000 a meter depending on what fancy name you like lol!

  • Thats what they call selling snake oil boys.lmao at monster cable hahahahaha.opper is copper

  • Thats what they call selling snake oil boys.lmao at monster cable hahahahaha

  • A 20.00 cable will do the same as monster cable and you do need a screen cleaner because the other stuff like like windex will not work right. Dammmmm you guys spent to much and zellers sells for 20.00. BTW are they the same brand tv and model number? Best Buy (owns Future Shop) rips customers off.

  • i went into futureshop after watching this video and i stole monster cable so problem solved no need to spend 12 $

  • i work at future shop and you guys are bunch of dumb fuckin goofs fuckin retards

  • hahahaha...judging by your incredibly intelligent post, i truly believe that you are indeed an employee of future shop...

  • you need a 1000 series monster cablle to run 3d

  • TRY USIN A 120hrtz screen and use monster cable...you'll see the diff..those screens are ruunin on 60hrtz and look the same no matter what..

  • @caretaker hdmi is digital man, digital is either on or off, the only thing in the middle is "packet loss" so if you can see the picture, it will be the same as long as the source is broadcasting without problems. If your talking about rca cables or svideo then i can see what your saying but theres still a cheaper alternative thats just as good

  • @Gerold1981 Sorry I'm replying to this a year later but he's right when you use a 120 Hz screen, but wrong that you will get degraded quality. Your cheap cable simply wont work for 120 Hz screen while monster cables are rated for 10+Gb/s and cheaper cables are rated for 4Gb/s. I haven't even mention the lifetime warranty, lifetime uprade, better shield from interference that would cause your cable to fail.

  • @plotikai

    im sorry but you are wrong!!!

    you're making excuses for them or yourself if you're a salesmen.

    digital is on or off, either it works or it doesnt!

    whether its a 60 hz tv or a 120 or 240 or 600 hz plasma it DONT MATTER!!

    the hertz is the frame rate and it doesnt get affected by the physical cable unless its shorting out or damaged.

    The only reason to buy expensive cables is if you're exceeding 75' and attenuation and insertion loss is introduced.

    stop lying to people

  • @2hottie69Forever Sorry, you didn't read my post are you simply didn't understand it. You are right to say digital is on or off, works or doesn't work. Where you are wrong is saying bandwidth doesn't matter. a 240 Hz 3D signal simply wont work on cheaper cables rated for 4Gb/s. You wont get a degraded signal, it simply wont work. It's like trying to shove a grown man through a cat door, it doesn't work.

  • @plotikai

    can you provide a some documentation to prove that?

    remember 600hertz plasmas have been around for over half a decade and 4gb hdmi was suffice. Furthermore, what you are saying sounds very much like the same regurgitated marketing opportunity technique that bestbuy has been doing over and over and over.

    they always seem to get away with it when the "new" line up launches.

    most 3d signals in 1080p get split to 2 60hz for each eye

  • @2hottie69Forever Prove what? I'm sure you can use Google, I'll help you get started. First of all you want to look up the HDMI 1.4 spec, and the differences between 1.4 and 1.3. Going to the nearest Best Buy and actually taking a look at the cables they provide and you can see they have their in house brand available for $24.99 but they have the same cable which also happens to be their house brand and the same length for $59.99. I'll give you one guess at what the difference is.

  • @plotikai

    I didnt ask because im too lazy to google it.

    i already did and cant find documentation to support your THEORY.

  • @2hottie69Forever clearly not because you're just saying exactly what every ignorant person says "DIGITAL WORKS OR DOESN'T"

  • @plotikai

    ive been saying that for almost a decade.

    i bet you defend the warranties/ or insurances as well right?

    are they hiring at best buy?

  • @2hottie69Forever I guess it's upsetting when others can afford insurance/warranty/better products. I feel bad for you, gg troll

  • @plotikai

    i bought warranty for my first plasma, which was around $3000 for a lg rupx4 or whatever the model was.

    after getting red dots on the screen they kept giving me excuses, over and over.

    warranties you guys sell are scams aint no other way to put it.

    nobody should EVER buy those warranties or those cables NO MATTER what!!

    i bet those speakers from back of a van are really quality speakers, not some welfare drivers that costs $20 to build right?

    how can you lie to people? seriously?

  • @2hottie69Forever you should ask yourself that same question xD

  • @plotikai

    in conclusion, the cheaper hdmi cables works on all hd sources including 3d until proven otherwise.

    tootles

  • @2hottie69Forever ironic when you say that and are so upset when people lie

  • @plotikai

    those damn sales men dont know what they sell.

    can you believe they told me that i needed to buy recovery discs for a samsung laptop cus it doesnt have the f11(or whatever f button it was) to do a full recovery?

    lol

    i showed them in their faces and they looked stupid.

    thats why i hate shopping at these stores. their salesmen are stupid, the warranty is a rip off that doesnt work, the cables are frauds. the salesmen are frauds

  • @2hottie69Forever Don't know who you're trying to convince, you're only kidding yourself.

  • never again I'm going to believe this hdmi bullshit

    especially from people here on youtube that fell for the scam and are butthurt over it, not to mention in denial.

  • @2hottie69Forever you can keep lying to yourself just stop lying to others :(

  • @plotikai

    thx for proving you are biased and your only agenda on this video is to do damage control.

    these fraudulent pieces of monkey crap have been EXPOSED and you're butthurt about it.

  • @2hottie69Forever lol poor boy it must suck to look over at the jones' and see they always have things you cant afford

  • @plotikai

    I can afford a hundred pounds of horse shit, does that mean I have to buy it?

    does that mean i have to buy these shitty hdmi wires? the only reason these imbeciles work in these stores is to sell you warranties that dont do shit, and expensive digital cables that dont do shit compared to a their families flea market turbin man selling a same product for 700% less

  • @2hottie69Forever you sound smart, why buy warranty, why buy home insurance. I'd rather buy 2 computers for 500 instead of buying the 100 warranty, id rather pay the 2k to repair the hot water tank that flooded my basement instead of the monthly payment.

  • @plotikai

    yes i sound smart and ill prove it yet again.

    you buy a $600 laptop and pay $150 for a 1 year warranty.

    if its a shitty HP, it will most likely already have a known faults like the dv9000 and hp will extend their warranty and ship u a box and all shipping costs are prepaid.

    your shitty HP laptop will be back in 5 days.

    why pay $150 to a turbin salesmen when his cheap ass HIMSELF DONT BUY WARRANTIES?

    Furthermore, that hp laptop is discontinued in 6 months, warranty is redundant

  • @2hottie69Forever You're an ignorant racist, don't talk any more :)

  • @plotikai

    a turbin isnt a race.

    a turbin is a funny looking hat.

    people that lived in deserts used to piss on their turbin and then either rub it on themselves to cool down or even in some cases squeeze and drink their own urine to survive.

    the sooner you accept that making fun of a turbin is not a racial comment the sooner you will come out of denial.

  • @plotikai

    and just out of curiosity, what race was I referring to?

    the Kurds? the jamaicans? the Africans? the canadians? or americans? or punjabs?

    cus all these races wear turbans.

    i got a feeling which race u are defending, lol

    ive exposed your true intent on this video, to cover up for these stupid ass faggot salesmen that lie to people and take us for fools by telling us we NEED an expensive fukken wire.

    u are a piece of shit just like them u have been EXPOSED.

  • @plotikai

    and tell your fukken family to make room in the parks for the women with kids.

    tell them to fukken hang out at an old age home and kids parks aren't built for them.

  • @plotikai

    i bought 6 laptops/pc's in 4 years.

    i bought warranty only one time for one of my dv9000's. my second dv9000 had no extra warranty beside the mfg.

    i bought new pc's/laptops because of newer models, newer chipsets, newer features eg thumb scanning, intel core, oh wait now they have dual core, oh wait now quad core, oh wait now i3, oh wait now i5, oh wait now i7 for the same price i paid 6 months ago.

    lol

    warranty on computers is the worst investment.

    end of discussion.

  • @plotikai

    it must suck spending your money on horse shit when you got no use for it.

    perhaps frying it on a pan, cus your cooking smells like it.

  • I once fell for the stupid sales men lies at best buy, he said that I needed monstercable digital optical cable.

    I said that the turbin guy on sundays sells them for $8, a simple plastic fiber line to send light. He said monstercable was way way way better and the sound was going to be day and night. LAUGH MY ASS OFF.

    the speed of light travels faster on monstercable (SARCASTIC OF COURSE)

  • @Gerold1981

    thats what ive said for so many damn years

    thank you SO DAMN MUCH for this upload.

    I wish this lady comes to my city and does this to my bestbuy.

    Furthermore, you are totally correct, digital is binary on or off, either it works or it doesn't work. The only thing the $200+ cables can have is better harmonic or magnetic shielding.

    And the guy at 0:44 should get fired, he straight up lied and cannot use words like crap for products he sells.

  • @caretaker i use a 15 dollar HDMI for my PS3. Looks great !

  • The test was done at 720p upconverted settings of course no quality was lost. Trying putting that through a 4k x 2k display with x.v color and 24-bit color depth and the results might have been different. You can get Monster Cables dirt cheap on ebay too. They are OEM but only have slight cosmetic defects. $10-25 for 8ft cables.

  • @mystictyphoon it don't matter the signal is still the same coming out of the cable HDMI has to run 1080p max no matter what cable it is it still has to run 1080P there is nothing better no matter what kind of cable it is 1080P IS 1080P no matter if it coming out of a $3 cable or a $200 cable.

  • @tokyozee What about 4096P? lol I'm pretty sure that resolution is better than 1080P, and it does exist. :P I thought it was just worth pointing out.

  • @mystictyphoon Yeah well I'm sure when the time comes there will be companies that make 3$ 4096 cables and 1000 dollar 4096 cables same signal running through the damn thing lol.

  • @tokyozee haha, probably right, However, we ended up actually getting the new monster cable and trying it against our old cable the colors were slightly more vivid, and there wasn't as much motion blur. Not sure why, by the depth was definitely better (although minimal).

  • im a PE at future shop and it does matter what kind of cable you use not brand monster does offer a good warranty but it is the gb that matter for speed and picture quality and it only matters for blue ray players and or 3D not basic cable

  • i spent over 4 grand on my home theatre setup, stuff from polk audio, lg, pioneer, monster. The only one that gave me trouble was monster, their subwoofer cable was built so poorly that if i twist it the tiniest bit my sub will get a bad signal and start rumbling like crazy, it has even twisted that small bit in the night and woken me up. I bought monster knowing that picture and sound wouldn't be better but thinking they would be better structurally. i was wrong

  • thanks to this show I learn that it does not matter what kind of HDMI cable to get they are all the same, so buy the less expensive HDMI cable and you would save a lot of money!

  • funny thing is that they dont mention the length of the cable... picture quality diminishes in a longer cable yet it is the same quality as the other one in the test.. funny thing is that the smaller (cheaper) cable is 2meters the other cable was a 6meter cable..

    My other point is that the test was run on a dvd player and not blu-ray or even 3d tv.. and secondly that the HD tv hockey the guy was watching was probably broadcast in 720p.. not a maximum of 1080p

  • However, the tests don't show what happens to the signal over time like such as a year later which one is better quality or even just over a sustained use for an hour which one is better

  • lol at the guy "you can see the hair!"

  • OMG THERE IS MARKUP ON THINGS THAT ARE FOR SALE? OMG COMPANIES LIKE TO MAKE MONEY? no shit... working at future shop has taught me that some people want "the best" out of what they buy.. not just some cheap piece of shit.. would u want to hook up ur 60" 3d tv that cost 3800 or more and say u have 3 dollar cables? of course if someone buys the cable they are getting an assurance that it is the best.. the salesperson walks out of the sale a couple of bucks richer as well

  • @Stuntbum20

    Futureshop really doesn't teach you anything except how to screw over the consumer. You should find work elsewhere. You know what people want? Honesty. Every manfucture says their cable is the best. You just happen to sell "one" manufacturer of cables and think it's the best? What a coincidence! That's the exact same thing ever other company thinks too.

  • why the heck did they buy the 4 meter cable, of course its going to be expensive, the 4 foot equivalent monster cable is only 60, and the rocket fish 40. and yes the mark up on them is pretty high but most folks don't realize the they often sell tvs below cost, so with the extra cable or 2 that's how they make their margins

  • They sold me memorex dual layer dvd disks that would not burn, Later they would not provide me with a cash refund

    they gave me a crapy gift certificate and a evil eye

  • Do Not Buy at FutureShop OR Bestbuy. They don't respect their employees or the customers. They're the same place. They tell you that "BestBuy" is not comission but I heard they shell out "bonuses" for warranty etc. which ultimately equals the same thing. If only they treated their employees with respect. Buy the way "Dynex" is made in the East somewhere where they can rip off more employees for cheap labour without caring about standards. That's why the cable is cheap!

  • @misterconsumer here in canada they give u a refund lol or your money back O.O

  • @gilfoth

    Thanks for clarifying!

    What we need to understand is we should all NOT bother going to these 2 stores in the first place since you'll wind up trying to get a refund sooner or later anyway for potentially buying something you didn't need.

    You might as well save yourself the hassle and the trip. Shop elsewhere people.

  • @misterconsumer np happy to help ^.^ :D!!!!!

  • Buy from Newegg, they don't rip you off.

  • This old cbc reporter, reminds me of some closed minded, dependant bitch, who doesn't believe anything they say, except what their husband tells them, who also has the intelligence of a middle school student. "no no, you cant fool me with these cables" Lets test HD cables, with a DVD player. Which doesnt even push the cable to its limit. Lets run a single lightbulb off a high grade transmission line cable vs house wiring nope! no difference! guess theres no difference in the cables!

  • WHAT THE HELL!!

    that AV monkey who apparently has everything hooked up to his sony XBR is an idiot. He doesnt even have a blu-ray player. I Bet your dvd player is gonnalook some good on that HD tv you retard.

  • hockey was in HD numbskull, and the cables were testing with video equipment in the cbc tech area not a dvd player...

  • @Gerold1981 he did say it was comming out of a dvd player

  • hd hockey is 720p not full 1080

  • @Gerold1981 HD hockey is only presented in 720P

  • @DanmanT15

    He did have a PS3.

  • @DanmanT15 Dude this is from 2008...Blu-ray wasn't really as affordable and had only recently toppled HDDVD, lots of people were holding out till the end of 2008 and early 2009 to get Blu-ray to make sure it was catching on.

  • i got a 12.99$ HDMI cable for my ps3 from canada computers vs. the recommended sony one for 49.99. i think my investment was worth it. crystal clear...

  • Monster Cable are made better, they are stiffer, better materials and lifetime warranty. Also, they are future-proof. Im not saying buy the $400 cable but don't buy the $12 one either.

  • the truth is, a Futureshop employee pays a Monster cable no more than 20$ and the company still makes profit on his back....

  • Gotta love that rocket fish

  • This is amazing. Not the cable thing - I worked for a cable TV company for years and we've always known the truth. Nope, what amazes me are all the comments from people who despite common sensibility - let alone hard data - continue to support the purchase of Monster cables! But hey, Rock On, dudes - maybe we can spend our way out of this recession after all!

  • Yeah also Monster offers a Lifetime full warranty. The 12$ cable offers no warranty. so that being said you will more likely have to replace it more often.

  • so ill just buys another $12 cable, and still only have spent $24 instead of $300. Besides how often does a cable break, im not pulling a car with it....

  • @djtwd you could replace the $12 cable 21 times before the monster cable is the better deal.

  • @djtwd What in gods name are you doing to a cable that'd it need replacing that many times if at all? Letting dogs and cats chew your wires? lol. I worked at Futureshop, they sell those cables for one reason. The cost is 10$ but they sell them for $210. A $12 dollar cable will last just as long if you're not yanking on it and strapping it to a car trailer hitch to pull people or cars around with, hehe. :P

  • what's funny is that cbc retracted there statements about a few weeks later once monster gave them a true demo and when to look for when comparing cables but you buy these cables for blu-ray not high def cable its all about the bandwidth

  • Monster is worth it!

    when i was moving, i was using the cables to whip my friends and i accidently broke the gold tip. I called monster and they replaced it no questions asked! AND! they cable I broke was 2 years old but they replaced it with the Updated New cable that cost double of what i payed for my old cable!

    Amazing customer service!

  • true. but id just buy another $10 one and still saved over $100 :P hehhe

  • that guy in the video is a terrible salesman!!

  • I don't know about everyone else. But I'd rather pay an extra $20 for the monster audio cables so I am not replacing the cheap radio shack ones every time they break. Difference in sound quality or no difference, the fact that I can get monster cables replaced for free because of their product coverage is worth the extra cash.

  • Now the sales people get a huge return just because of some lame ass "packing the deal" bit. Hurting they're commission, sales numbers and store hours.

  • hey everyone, today i went to dollarama and found Monster car audio rca cables for $1. I looked on the back to see if they are fake and they are real, made in USA and they have the monster logo badged on it. HAH!

  • if u got money then buy better brands stop complaining if ur poor. ur choice buy or dont.

  • I'd rather spend the 300-600 on a gaming console and games or something different. Its not that people dont wanna spend the money, its that people dont wanna be ripped off. 75% + people have to be convinced to buy monster, they dont just walk in and say, hey today i feel like spending a grand on cables and 800 on a tv

  • @Gerold1981 Hmm, lets say I'm running my cable through walls to a mounted TV. (perhaps to a TV over a fireplace) Lets say in 2 years the cable breaks. Would you be willing to grab the broken cable from inside the wall and go through the pain-in-the-ass process of installing again? I sure wouldn't.

    Lets presume I'm running the cable outside where it is exposed to much more environmental dangers. I'll want something that is built to last and that has a guarantee, thank you very much

  • Yes, but the average person would not be running their cables through the wall, nor outside. The average person's bluray player would be a maximum 2 feet away form the tv.

  • Lots of people run cables through walls when they mount their TVs... And people do mount their TVs lol

  • lol $40 cable still about $6 on staff for employees of futureshop or bestbuy. LOL AT REGULAR CUSTOMERS. and that $6 is plus 10% cost of wut the store got it at

  • lucky i get cheap staff price.  too bad $10 for me $80 for u

  • where do u work to have such prices?

  • so is this monster's cables's fault or the distributor's fault?

  • well, i think its more of the distributors fault than anything else. But monster cable does however use overkill. Kinda like making a 24k gold lawnmower blade, just cause its expensive and has high value parts doesnt mean its better.

  • This is an absolute scam, i tested $120 monster hdmi vs a $7 monoprice cable on two different tv's

    and there was NO difference!!! accept the price, i saved $113 going with monoprice....

    Fcuk monster cables.

  • When you buy a Monster Cable you are paying for several things.

    #1 Brand name

    #2 The length of the cable itself

    #3 The lifetime warranty

    #4 The durability of the cable

    #5 The hertz/refresh rate on the cable

    I use a monster cable on my laptop and ps3 to watch my Blu-Rays and love them. 0 problems to complain about. If and when they crap out I get a free $150 cord. :D

  • no offense, please.

    #1 i dont care about brand

    #2 i cant get a cable 10x the length and still pay less

    #3 dont need one, ill just buy another $10 cable from monoprice if the other one breaks (which it hasnt yet) and still have $130 in my pocket

    #4 i have no problems with my current cables (also please read number 3)

    #5 the actual unit (tv, monitor, graphic card, dvd player) will control that, not the cable

  • @Stuntbum20

    LOL @ get a "free 150 Dollar Chord" if it breaks down. No you moron you get a cable that cost them $3 to manufacture. They would have to claim your warranty about 50 timesfor you to get this $150 dollar value you boast about. Truly a tribute to stupidity. That $150 dollars is your wasted money.

  • future shop would make no money if they didnt sell accesories at high cost because on half of major items we lose money by selling them

  • wow u guys r talking all kinds of shit!!!they tell u this is the highest brand...ppl come in cuza they want the best do u blame these guys trying to make money ...thats how the world goes u guys r talking as if theyre screwing u on the deal ur still getting quality ...stop bitching thats life

  • Quality? 10 dollar hdmi monoprice cable has the same quality as a 150 dollar monster cable, its just black in colour, thats the only dif. Believe it or not, most people that buy the monster cables have to be convinced before buying it. Do you think everyone just walks in and wants to spend 500+ dollars on cables? And many of those people go back and return them when they find out that the $10 cable their friend lent them does the same job.

  • That futureshop guy at the end is probably canned. Annual review notes being disgraced on national television.

  • this is what you call snake oil lol...

  • brutal. as a tech savy person, this video really does an injustice. although i have never personally been a fan of Future Shop or Best Buy; i know from being in there that the "262 dollar" cable they bought is like a 25 foot/120 Hz cable which is far too long for the setup they had on the hockey game, considering those tv's arent 120 Hz. i have monster cables running me entire home theater. i havent bought anything from a big box retailer and ill assure you that i have noticed a difference !!

  • digital is digital 1010101, its either on or off, the only half point between on or off is called packet loss and the image/sound will be all broken and messed up. if you get 100% of all packets with a cheap cable or monster cable then the image will be exactly the same.

    only when its analogue will a better cable make a difference. But there's still more options that are cheaper then monster and just as good.

  • Im a car audio installer at future shop so I know all the crap that goes on there. The cables are the same. it is a digital signal passing through the cable so it is either there or its not. There was one situation where there was a cheap hdmi cable ran in someones house that was 50 feet long. It would not pass 1080p but the higher quality cable of the same length would.. Thats the ONLY situation where it matters. I use all rocketfish cables in my setup. Just as good and very cheap.

  • just for fun i sent an email to Monster Cable asking how much would cost a certain cable. (i attached the picture of a 10.2 gbps 6 ft gold-plated shielded and sleeved HDMI 1.3 cable i bought for $10 from newegg). They answered that the comparable cable they'd recommend was the Monster HDMI 1.3 (10.2 gbps) 1000HDex Ultra-High Speed HDMI Cable, that had the same specs but they were selling it for $130. Monster Cable's cheaper cables had lower bandwidth than the $10 cable i bought!

  • So my mom got suckered in to buying Monster Component Cables...I know i know, a huge rip-off but i wasn't there when she bought them and its too late to return them. Fucking sleazy futureshop sales rep! How much do you think i could sell them for? I'm not sure which exact model they are i think it was something like Ultra 1000.

  • i would check on kijiji and see what the avg. going rate is, check ebay as well

  • wrong.

  • Funny, Funny Funny.

    Future Shop and Best Buy are the same company. As for product type, quality and durability, I would agrue that the more expensive are better made, but......

    They will both do the same job.

  • You fags just don't know what your talking about. I agree the pixel for pixel count will be the same, duhh, but the quality of each pixel is better with a higher grade gold plated monster cable.

  • yea seriously. funny thing is they're using comercial power conditioners it that studio. i work in a recording studio and everything is behind a power conditioner and RF sheilding. of course they didnt see any difference in the signals... they didnt let any interference get through to them. try that agian in someones house near a cell or radio tower.

  • What is not rip off about Future Shop/Best Buy.lok at their extended warranty, the brand they sell(mostly LG garbage because of mark ups) and the lies afer lies about everything

  • Monster cables do make a difference! The markup is high but life time warranty with monster. Ie none of these sources are 1080p!

  • id rather just buy a second pair IF the regualr cables dont work. I could buy 5 sets and still have a cheaper price than 1 monster cable with its special warranty.

  • or get the monster cables off ebay/at cost?

    it's not that hard to get a really nice monster for $15-$20.

  • A friend of mine works at future shop and he told me that Monster Cables Monster are no more than $10 but FS sells them for at least 10x its value.

  • the cost of monster cables are a bit high but you are getting a better constructed cable. Anyone who has cats or dogs knows that a nearly indestructible cable is a better buy. half my wires a home get chewed up by my cat

  • I worked at future shop and now I work at Best Buy, and what's worse is they forgot to mention the ridiculous markup on the monster cables. They cost the store nearly $40-60 to buy and they sell it for anywhere between $100-300. In other words, staff members can buy the products for that cheaper cost price +10%.

  • I wish i had been there when the futureshop guy sold my mom 300 dollar monster cables! what a rip!

  • Another thing. If you buy a monster cable and your dog chews through it, send back both pieces and you'll get a new cable.

  • OR i can just go buy another one brand new for 12$ and be delivered to my front door!

  • what i enjoy is when she asks the merchandiser manager, what the difference is he says it is superior in its construction. She ignores that and says the signal out put is the same. Monster cables often have a metal weave covering that makes it next to impossible to destroy. As a Dynex cable is regular like plastic rubber mix( or whatever a normal covering is made of). The quality is different for when you have normal to hd output and even hd to hd, there is a noticeable difference,

  • "impossible to destroy"??

    Why does it have to be indestructible? After I plug it in, the cable stays behind my tv and nobody is touching it. It's not like I'm going to drive over it or skip rope with it.

  • hahaahh XD *high five*

  • i just want to know about this 12 doller cable i can buy a monster cable off ebay for that so why did they just use the dynxe for there cheep test, for all we know there 12 doller cable is really top notch cable vs dynxe but who knows right

  • What kind of signal was being pushed though the cable. If he was just pushing 480p or 720p yeah all cables will get the same results. Where cables start looking different is in the 1080P ranger 120hz refresh rate and 7.1 loss less surround sound. Put all that in test and redo. I want to see a test with all that turned on and rated.

  • All this about digital "distortion" is bullshit .

    I can take a digital signal and record it , change lead , then record it again .

    Phase invert one of the recorded signals and then combine them .

    The result is zero signal , mathematically proving you incorrect .

  • There's no info not supporting monster, either. There cables DO sound better in many instances and I just think labeling them as a scam company is harsh. There's so much bullshit info out there. Read some of the claims by people who pretend like they know something about anything and you'll see what I mean.

    "I do not know of a single recognised professional recording studio using monster products."

    Yeah, I'll take your word for it because you know everything. lol

  • HDMI is based on digital signal. It either works or it doesn't work at all.

    The fact that you don't know anything about the nature of digital signal processing doesn't make picture quality on monster any better than on other cables.

  • Not going to get into it again. If you wish, read the past texts. If not...I don't care.

    The fact is, digital is subject to degradation and interference. It's still electrons flowing through a cable no matter how you slice it. Proof is that digital coax and HDMI have to be shielded. I do digital signal processing for a living and it's not a perfect medium. I just think it's unfair that people are yelling scam. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Or, take it back for a full refund.

  • > I do digital signal processing for a living

    I bet you make money off it by spreading bullshit to average people.

    > The fact is, digital is subject to degradation and interference.

    The fact is, it's one's and zeroes. or series of on's and off's.

    It's not like analogue signals; It doesn't have to be a perfect signal in order to transmit the same data.

  • But, like I said....I'm done with the conversation. later.

  • All cables aren't created equal. Bandwidth, of course, shielding, impedance. All that makes a difference.  Check this out since everyone is so intent on reading their info instead of experiencing it. google: The Truth About Monster Cable, Part 2 (Verdict: Cheap Cables Keep Up...Usually) k....now I'm done. : )

  • ...and by usually they refer to lengths of 50m and over or signals like 1080p120, which doesn't exist yet unless you've bought a $30,000 Red camera.

    Category 1 certified cables (entry level) must pass 2.25Gbps bandwidth. 1080p24 on blu-ray uncompressed is 1.1Gbps. At 10m or less EVERY CABLE will work.

  • "digital "distortion" is bullshit ."

    Yeah, that's why there are techniques and programs in the industry that attempt to reduce the noticeable effects of it.

    Even if their cables simply last longer and are better shielded leading to less dropped packets or interference....is that really a scam? Especially considering that you can take it back for a full refund if you don't notice a difference? Oh yeah, and they hand you a new if you break the old one. Man! What a scam! lol

  • "I can take a digital signal and record it , change lead , then record it again .

    Phase invert one of the recorded signals and then combine them .

    The result is zero signal , mathematically proving you incorrect."

    Record a lot of sine waves do you? You can achieve the same effect with analog, as well.

    point is, you're acting as if digital is the exact same signal every time....no matter what you do to it. That's simply not true.

    Anyway, I'm about done with this. Have a good one.

  • BTW, I wasn't insinuating that you don't have, use, or care about quality. Just asking, that's all. However, there's a lot of companies that make really nice gear, particularly nice cables, of course. Have you ever tried any monster cables? Their cables do exactly what they say they do. Again, at least in the pro audio world. Having said that, I have a few other cable companies I like, as well. I just hate owning nice gear, then connecting them with shitty sounding cables.

  • Phase inversion test can be done with any CD , for example , try it , just use Cubase, Pro Tool or any DAW .

    I make my own snakes and leads , choosing cable and connector to my specification .

    If you are further interested , I can post some links to discussion about this very subject later .

    Without flaming you , don't waste your money mate , spend it on the converters , preamps , monitors etc .

    Later

    Can I have some fakkin' Diddy Doughnuts !

  • yeah, no doubt. I own a pro-tools setup. No prob. No flaming taken.lol I realize you were talking about one pre-recorded digital signal to another. In that case, it would be one for one. Sorry, it was a bad joke. lol It amused me, anyway.

    A good D/A converter and a high sampling rate works wonders, your right about that. If not, that's what dither is for. ; )

    I dig the sound of a good quality cable. To each his own, though. BTW, I don't own any high dollar cables for digital transfer

  • A good preamp and monitors are a must, too! : )

  • BTW, HDMI still passes electrons through connectors and a cable and is therefore still subject to degradation of the signal.

  • True but they send packets, not the raw data. The electrons are either highvoltage (usualy 4.5V+ or low voltage (2v-)) Analogue electronss the exact voltage/freq was the sound you would get so if a cable wasn't properly shielded and (because the lack of error correction) 1.5v would become 0.8v and give a different noise.

    About 128kbps vs 320kbps. All HDMI v1.3 cables have exactly the same bandwith(troughput) so there is really no difference. To give this some background, I'm a C.S. student)

  • I know, but the theories seem rough no matter who you talk to. For example, I've actually heard before that HDMI has no error correction. From more than one source. That sounded false to me. So, I did some digging and, as it seems, it has some error correction, but it's more to minimize problems rather than a full-proof safety net. In other words, there's some leeway. Logically, that makes sense to me since there's no way the electrons aren't changing by traversing through cable.

  • If the error correction was so stringent, you'd never get both sources to communicate correctly as there's no way to ensure the consistent flow of electrons through a medium. In fact, just the fact that the cables are shielded, and that HDMI cables aren't manufactured passed a certain length illustrates the fundamental flaws in the system. As I said before, digital is not perfect. You can always improve on connections, shielding, different impedance..etc.. All that will change flow.

  • To elaborate, though. It shows up in audio in the form of digital distortion, slight tone changes and weird little artifacts. I can't speak to video, though as I deal with pro audio and, frankly...really don't care about video that much. lol

  • Also, I know people that think that 128kbs sounds just as good as 320kbs just because it's digital. That's simply not true. 320kbs also doesn't sound as good as a cd with all the compression these days. Digital is not free from problems. Bandwidth and compression has a lot to do with it. Point is, nobody jumps on RCA for making a superior, more costly cable when the A&D world demands it. Why just monster?