Yes this technology is not new and was made in the late 90's. Look up Numerix, Numatix, Rubicon controller. Find the history of it. They may have bought the rights but there are other ways to retofit a older machine to do this same thing. Even the latest machines are many steps behind this control. They are catching on but.......
You people have NO CLUE what you are talking about...it has nothing to do with the metal being cut, the part, or the "speed" of the movement of the spindle. Take a look at the control around the 26 second mark. Notice the feedrate locked in at 200 inches per minute. It does that constantly, throughout the movement of all three axis. The only time it slows is to change direction. NO OTHER CONTROLER ON THE MARKET CAN DO WHAT THIS CONTROLLER CAN DO. Not Fanuc, Heidenhein, Siemens...none!
@raormrod I understand what the demonstration is. The machines processor and controller can output fast enough to maintain 200IPM no matter what 3D shape it cuts.
I wouldn't know what other machines are capable of because i'm not a mold maker,but I do know that takes a lot of processing power and speed.
@raormrod Wrong, the Numatix, Numerix and Rubicon controller which this controller is based off of does the same thing and has for longer than this machine has been around. This is the guy who invented the technology that was stolen from him his name was Gil.
@SteamingObe sorry man, I'm just so tired of the comments from people who have no clue what they are talking about. I took your comment the wrong way. This software is incredible. You can monitor all your machines from your smartphone if you wanted. It'll send you alerts when you break tools, program is finished, ect. Its truly incredible. Again i'm sorry. P.S. I don't sell them. Its my dad's company. I sell cars. Have a good one.
I work with MAS Kosovit HSM CNC Machines with Heidenhain controllers and also HURON HSM with Siemens controllers and would love to make a time comparison since we sometimes work at faster feeds ( up to 8000 mm/min = 320 inch/min).
Around round 3D surfaces u do have a point, but what about cornering sharp edges?
i disagree. I saw a makino machine 4 years ago and it was running MUCH faster than this. I do not remember the exact numbers, but 1000in/min & 40krpm. the depth was very light- maybe .01. LOTS of light fast cuts in hard metal.
I think this machine is made for 3D milling. It can process the movements faster so it does not slow down. I think they can also retrofit Fadals and Haas machines with this control. Good video
Yes, we achieve the half cycle time in 3D due to our constant velocity. We can retrofit ANY machine, not just Fadals and Haas's...let me know if you want more info
We bought one after IMTS and after reading about it in just about every trade journal out there. Do the research, we did. This machine/controller has cut our cycle times by BETTER than half!!! 80% of our cutting time is spent on finishing and thats where this machine shines. Cuts the same part better, faster and smoother then similar sized machines on our floor costing 4X more. And its able to run any CAD/CAM package that will run on XP PRO with no effect on cutting performance.
I understand what Im seeing here. The important part of this video is the feedrate displayed on the controller. No other controller on the planet can sustain a constant feedrate like that, it locks in at the programmed 200ipm over complex geometery while maintaining exceptional accuracy. Its being run above the part to show the finished achieved at that feedrate. Watch your feedrates on any other controller when you are cutting 3D geometery, especially when all 3 axes are moving. Amazing!!
Really? Well I guess the customers who were smart enough to buy our machine are really thinking we are full of it too when we literally cut their cycle time in half without changing any part to their current process....silly them. Oh wait, they are laughing at you for your antiquated technology. Don't believe me. I'll prove it to you!
This thing looks like some typical crap display at IMTS shows. Vespahipcat's got a point: let's see this thing hog off about 5mm depth of cut like that!
who takes a 5mm depth of cut when finishing? Roughing sure...but roughing is not where the majority of your cutting time comes from. Also not sure what machine or cutter can cut 5mm at 200ipm...lol...
of course its necessary. the faster you can process data in a 3D cut the more efficient you are in the movement of the cutter. We will not stutter at all in any movement..no data starvation. We will outcut anyone 2-1 guarnateed without changing any part of a current program.
Yes this technology is not new and was made in the late 90's. Look up Numerix, Numatix, Rubicon controller. Find the history of it. They may have bought the rights but there are other ways to retofit a older machine to do this same thing. Even the latest machines are many steps behind this control. They are catching on but.......
BTACNC 5 days ago
our Makino Mag3 at work can do this at 900 ipm..
wesleythekidd 6 months ago
Roeders
roeders.de/10-1-Typical-Applications.html
You get what you pay for.
oddball1973 7 months ago
What about Selca control or Hurcos Wincam with C600 option?
allancnc 1 year ago
You people have NO CLUE what you are talking about...it has nothing to do with the metal being cut, the part, or the "speed" of the movement of the spindle. Take a look at the control around the 26 second mark. Notice the feedrate locked in at 200 inches per minute. It does that constantly, throughout the movement of all three axis. The only time it slows is to change direction. NO OTHER CONTROLER ON THE MARKET CAN DO WHAT THIS CONTROLLER CAN DO. Not Fanuc, Heidenhein, Siemens...none!
raormrod 1 year ago
@raormrod Yes, you're right. I've never drip fed a program before. Never in my life. Being an asshole is no way to be a sales man.
SteamingObe 1 year ago
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@raormrod You're right. I've never drip fed a program before. Never in my life. Being an asshole is no way to be a sales man.
SteamingObe 1 year ago
@raormrod I understand what the demonstration is. The machines processor and controller can output fast enough to maintain 200IPM no matter what 3D shape it cuts.
I wouldn't know what other machines are capable of because i'm not a mold maker,but I do know that takes a lot of processing power and speed.
Nice control.
stayinstock 4 months ago
@raormrod Wrong, the Numatix, Numerix and Rubicon controller which this controller is based off of does the same thing and has for longer than this machine has been around. This is the guy who invented the technology that was stolen from him his name was Gil.
BTACNC 5 days ago
Look up Numeryx dot com
BTACNC 5 days ago
I wonder if our computers could even drip feed that fast.
SteamingObe 1 year ago
@SteamingObe You have no clue what you are talking about
raormrod 1 year ago
@SteamingObe sorry man, I'm just so tired of the comments from people who have no clue what they are talking about. I took your comment the wrong way. This software is incredible. You can monitor all your machines from your smartphone if you wanted. It'll send you alerts when you break tools, program is finished, ect. Its truly incredible. Again i'm sorry. P.S. I don't sell them. Its my dad's company. I sell cars. Have a good one.
raormrod 1 year ago
If I may ask, what kind of control is it?
also, do you know the block look ahead on this machine?
thanks.
jtjoser 1 year ago
id say that falls very short of worlds fastest....
voodoochld2 1 year ago
Brother CNC centers are really fast.
Nhyf 1 year ago
slow
patrickgsxr1100 1 year ago
It all depends on the size of the machine.
raormrod 1 year ago
what's the max spindle rpm?
dioiao 1 year ago
I work with MAS Kosovit HSM CNC Machines with Heidenhain controllers and also HURON HSM with Siemens controllers and would love to make a time comparison since we sometimes work at faster feeds ( up to 8000 mm/min = 320 inch/min).
Around round 3D surfaces u do have a point, but what about cornering sharp edges?
Biotico 1 year ago
Uhh... S6000 F200??? You have to be kidding me...
hacksaw116 1 year ago
slow as nails
engineering216 2 years ago
i disagree. I saw a makino machine 4 years ago and it was running MUCH faster than this. I do not remember the exact numbers, but 1000in/min & 40krpm. the depth was very light- maybe .01. LOTS of light fast cuts in hard metal.
geekworks 2 years ago
another aluminium show :P
Seph2406 2 years ago 2
This video is not about chip removal. We can make chips fly if you like. The 4020 weighs 16000 lbs. Heavy machine...
It is all about constant velocity in the 3d world. The control and the machine never slow down
raormrod 2 years ago
im sure it has a MADE IN USA logo on it since you guys are based out of Cincinnati, Ohio. gotta love the local companies!
hellsmaw84 2 years ago
Howabout uploading daily demos?
We want to see some of that cnc coolness.
gabydewilde 2 years ago
simple program lmao waste
mold make that shit
pokermach 2 years ago
its actually a very complicated test part. whatever control you are running would choke on this program.
raormrod 2 years ago
WAKE ME UP WHEN ITS OVER
mrladderman 2 years ago
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has any one see this listed on the ebay? i'd bid for... :-))
floringguy 2 years ago
What controller is that? How much to retrofit a fadal?
amcrules 3 years ago
I think this machine is made for 3D milling. It can process the movements faster so it does not slow down. I think they can also retrofit Fadals and Haas machines with this control. Good video
ntwrkr1011 3 years ago
Yes, we achieve the half cycle time in 3D due to our constant velocity. We can retrofit ANY machine, not just Fadals and Haas's...let me know if you want more info
raormrod 3 years ago
We bought one after IMTS and after reading about it in just about every trade journal out there. Do the research, we did. This machine/controller has cut our cycle times by BETTER than half!!! 80% of our cutting time is spent on finishing and thats where this machine shines. Cuts the same part better, faster and smoother then similar sized machines on our floor costing 4X more. And its able to run any CAD/CAM package that will run on XP PRO with no effect on cutting performance.
tsewdim 3 years ago
I understand what Im seeing here. The important part of this video is the feedrate displayed on the controller. No other controller on the planet can sustain a constant feedrate like that, it locks in at the programmed 200ipm over complex geometery while maintaining exceptional accuracy. Its being run above the part to show the finished achieved at that feedrate. Watch your feedrates on any other controller when you are cutting 3D geometery, especially when all 3 axes are moving. Amazing!!
tsewdim 3 years ago
Nice yellow machine. I think that sales person that sold this to you is full of it.
Dean0017 3 years ago
Really? Well I guess the customers who were smart enough to buy our machine are really thinking we are full of it too when we literally cut their cycle time in half without changing any part to their current process....silly them. Oh wait, they are laughing at you for your antiquated technology. Don't believe me. I'll prove it to you!
raormrod 3 years ago
This thing looks like some typical crap display at IMTS shows. Vespahipcat's got a point: let's see this thing hog off about 5mm depth of cut like that!
docholladay2112 3 years ago
go watch a haas do it..if they can, anyone can! its about constant velocity, that's all the video is displaying. thanks for watching
raormrod 3 years ago
who takes a 5mm depth of cut when finishing? Roughing sure...but roughing is not where the majority of your cutting time comes from. Also not sure what machine or cutter can cut 5mm at 200ipm...lol...
tsewdim 3 years ago
it's displaying its ability to move in a 3d movement without slowing down...anyone can remove chips...
raormrod 3 years ago
Maybe next time you could show it pulling a chip load, instead of making dust.
Vespahipcat 3 years ago
By the way do you guys have a web page.
DiegoAbellaP 3 years ago
of course its necessary. the faster you can process data in a 3D cut the more efficient you are in the movement of the cutter. We will not stutter at all in any movement..no data starvation. We will outcut anyone 2-1 guarnateed without changing any part of a current program.
raormrod 3 years ago
processing 150,000 blocks per second is not necessary, not even remotely close to necessary.
aronb86 3 years ago
its a finish pass
raormrod 3 years ago
lol you can bearly tell that its even cutting
pyrodmanp 3 years ago
We process data @ 150,000 blocks per second with 80 internal smart buffers. We are 25x faster than any control on the market today in 3D machining.
raormrod 3 years ago