Ok he is not testing this right. Funny not one box has been returned and all customers have seen a saving including my self of 20%! how could this be? Because it works! i went from averaging $180 a month down to $96-$97 a month with this unit. Everyone that I know that has one has seen savings in the next billing cycle!
I believe that your comments are not supported as the kvar shows a sustainable change lower could you be so kind to explain to the masses what that does to the cost of electricity, Oh by the way are you employed by an electrical power company, they charge on the use of the total of the used or unused from both legs, so have you been really honest with what you say?
Power factor correction is only really an industrial thing if the process uses a lot of inductive loads like motors and refrigeration equipment. They dont "save" you on your power bill, they help correct large instantanious loads that the meter wont pick up, but the power company WILL charge you for in increased electrical service size requirements and fees. This is not so much a scam as more just selling a product to unsuspecting consumers that have no use for it.
I have commented on youtube before on these units but they keep coming back.
I have worked with power factor correction for over 20 years.
Considering you are not an electrician you have shown it is a complete waste of time and money well done.
These units are available under €5 but are of no use for domestic meters.
If any body has one of these installed in the house remove it, it needs a blocking inductor. It is amplifying certain emisions and will cause damage to S.M. electronics.
There's a sales lady calling me repeatedly from this company. When I told her I needed to check it out she emailed me FAQ's about the product, lol. Ya, like I'm going to take their word at face value. I was true to my word and checked them out and after this video my answer will be, be "no" when she calls tomorrow.
There's a sales lady calling me repeatedly from this company. When I told her I needed to get it out she emailed me FAQ's about the product, lol. Ya, like I'm going to take their word at face value. I was true to my word and checked them out and after this video my answer will be, be "no" when she calls tomorrow.
The post below about a data logger/capacitors charging is bunk, BS,horse dump. Capacitors are charging and discharging instantly when connected to the line. Where do these guys come from? Makes me laugh...flywheel for your home...that's funny...
Thanks for posting. Good job. Stay the course, you have done well. These guys are scammers and/or know nothing about AC electricity. All they want is a quick buck from uninformed consumers. Have faith. Your analysis is correct. Of course those of us who do electronics already knew this since everything about power factor correction was already worked out prior to 1920. You can find it in the book "Alternating Current Machinery", McGraw-Hill, copyright 1916. Thanks again..
You need a data logger. If you know how capacitors work, they have to charge. Turning the device on and off like that would not give you appreciable results anyhow. These would do much better for spikes. You should see more even power flow to your home. Some power companies put conditioning devices in their transmission lines. They are usually mechanical flywheels. Although some power companies are cheap and flywheels come at a cost. This is like a flywheel for your home, but done with capacito
And to think they shut down childrens lemonade stands all over now. But some how always manage t let this crap slide by. I see it all the time in many products that are junk.
He who's crookedest in the game of life wins! But what about after that?
Well done. Of course, if EACH inductive load had IT'S OWN correction caps that cut out of circuit when the motor does (and the cap is well tuned to it's motor's inductance) it could be a benefit. Just picking some random capacitance and putting it across God-knows-what (and ever changing) inductance makes no sense. Thanks for posting!
Do not you see the RED LIGHT on it ? Guess what does that RED LIGHT mean? I do not know this brand but a similar product I have has GREEN LIGHT on it and works great. powersaver1200
well i thought you could find the link on the youtube address i put. if not go to youtube, and search desert energy saver testimonial by shawnee you can see my results. and if this doesnt convince you, you should check to see if you have a pulse!!
Well here is what I found out about my box i had installed on my house. proof is in the pudding. I have 4 years of electric bills and 2010 i had a box installed if this is a scam them I will take a dozen of them.
Looking on the web, I see some interesting stuff. Numbers like at best, a correction for 0.7% phase diff is realistic - and residential is NOT charged for KVA, just KW. And Energy Star (ya think they have engineers good enuf fer ya??) does not qualify these as useful. And, this test is what the builder describes - but this includes everything to make it look as good as possible. Thx for separating real from "cause my bible says so" bull.
Some interesting comments - I do have one of these units - when I asked how to test, I got that I had to test the amps at the feed to the house.. How many people can do that? Let's see, it is essentially a straight wire, except for resistance of the wire and the circuit breaker between the house feed and the fridge, for instance. Why can't I take my kill-a-watt tester, which I just bought, and measure it there? 'cause. Hmm.. I have a problem following the electrical principle here..
These "power saver" units are a huge scam. They simply do not work. Even worse, they typically have a slipshod U.L. listing. I've had several of my customers ask me about this scam in the last several months, so I guess it is making a resurgence. Save your money for the gas pump folks.
The problem you have here is bad design and installation, you clearly don't need a PFC unit because your power factor is good with or without loads acording to the readings. PFC correction is only needed if the power factor is below .90, good PF is usually .95 - .99. If you ad a pfc (power factor correction) unit to these high numbers you would go over on your capacitance and yes this will increase your bill. Don't do this if you don't know how.
at 2:12 in the video, the kwh jumps high, but with the 1200 on, it was below 7.9 but when you switched it backl off it jumped up.... also, you need to allow the caps to charge to show a difference. also you need to check the kw/hr readings, as they go down when the unit is on, this is what the electric company charges, is the KWH
at 2:12 in the video, the kwh jumps high, but with the 1200 on, it was below 7.9 but when you switched it backl off it jumped up.... also, you need to allow the caps to charge to show a difference.
IF you have a 90 degree shift between voltage and amps, power factor correction reduces energy dissapation in coils and wiring. Under load, power factor in the curcuit corrects itself. It's useless under load, however some efficiency impovements DO reduce current draw in devices with coils (plug in power supplies, florescent lights, appliance motors). Most homes wouldn't see more than a 6 to 8 percent efficiency gain. If you pay less than 300 a month for power, It's not worth the cost.
Very interesting video however I have one of the power save 1200 units on my house and it is working very good I can see through my power bill that I am saving from 15% in the summer time my home is all electric and it works beautifully for me like I see someone else said may be need a licensed electrician to come look at your power box do not forget your power saver comes with a five year warranty question did you have a water leak inside your power box? have yourself a good day
@1pcdoc This is curious, I'd still like to believe that I wasn't scammed in buying a unit, and think maybe since it won't save money, it helps on spikes and motor startup? Since it corrects KVA, not KW, and your house is billed at KW, I have a problem understanding how this is really saving money. You can't measure it, just as this test shows, and I assume that my use changes so I wouldn't know. I believe that your use is just down 15% now. This unit simply saves based upon faith not facts?
at 2:12 in the video, the kwh jumps high, but with the 1200 on, it was below 7.9 but when you switched it backl off it jumped up.... also, you need to allow the caps to charge to show a difference. also you need to check the kw/hr readings, as they go down when the unit is on, this is what the electric company charges, is the KWH
@claudiacallejas Again with this damaged unit stuff. Look, the fact that the PF does change (as shown on the power quality analyzer) shows that the caps in the unit are working. There are no other parts inside the unit but 2 caps. Since we see the capacitance jump (in the form of PF change) we know that they are working. Seriously, this isn't rocker science. This is basic electrical theory.
@ProTechPlumbing "RED LIGHT" shows that is not functioning properly. I do not know this brand or recommend it but looks like this video is a scam. I se a different one with GREEN LIGHT on it..
@claudiacallejas you are the one who doesn't know WTF you are talking about. Go to school and get a degree (as ProTech obviously has) and when you can explain what TRUE POWER, APPARENT POWER, POWER FACTOR, REACTIVE POWER to the satisfaction of a REAL engineer, then you have the right to open your yap and talk 5hit... till then, 5hut up... it's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than it is to open it and remove all doubt.
@claudiacallejas you are the one who doesn't know WTF you are talking about. Go to school and get a degree (as ProTech obviously has) and when you can explain what TRUE POWER, APPARENT POWER, POWER FACTOR, REACTIVE POWER to the satisfaction of a REAL engineer, then you have the right to open your yap and talk 5hit... till then, 5hut up... it's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than it is to open it and remove all doubt.
You got it perfect ,you should explaine VAR ,volt amps reactive , this gos a long way to help a person understand whats going on .if they can get power factor the rest is no prob.
@hondo434 You have again shown just how little you know with your comments. The power quality analyzer measures with voltage with the leads (2, 120 volt phases 180 degrees apart) and the amperage with the inductive clamp (all of the 240v loads and which ever 120v loads are fed from the clamped phase. While there would be a slight difference in the 120v loads from 1 phase to the other due to load imbalance, it would not significantly change the readings as most of the loads were 240v. nice try
@hondo434 Trouble shoot?? Are you serious? It's just 2 capacitors twinned to a branch circuit on the main panel. There is nothing to trouble shoot! The caps are either producing capacitance or not, plain and simple. The simple fact that the PF does in fact change when the unit is turned on shows that they are working. They just aren't reducing wattage. Go learn what a triac is and how the power companies meter works. Then get back with me an try to continue this debate. Until then, I'm done.
@hondo434 They do in fact use capacitors to reduce KVA. The reason they do this is to reduce the amperage so that smaller conductors can be used. The money they save is mainly on material costs.
You have meter hooked up wrong or you aren't hooked to where power draw is. If you have that much load operating you wouldn't show 5.5 amp draw. The power factor would not be 95%. The power save needs 7 amps to fill capacitor banks. Amp draw above the 7 amps will see reduction in amp draw for inductive load. Resistive load like electric ranges are 100% efficient and have no savings-
@hondo434 - if resistive load is tested it will average the total load to a higher PF reading. Motors are the only thing that can be power factor corrected.
@hondo434 1st: Where did you see a 5.5 amp draw? That meter didn't even have amps displayed. 2nd: the only resistive loads that where on where a few light and the dryer, everything else was inductive. I had all of the fans on, the dryer and the AC. Sorry, nice try, but no dice. 3rd: The meter is NOT hooked up wrong and you can plainly see how it is hooked up and I explained how it was hooked up in the video. So either you didn't pay attention, or you know nothing about power quality analyzers
@ProTechPlumbing i don't know why you are so adament about believing these units don't work. Like I said your meter shows 5.5kva and 93% pf .that is impossible with any inductive load. You need to isolate a motor that you know the exact amp draw. It must be over 7Amps for the power saver to work.
@hondo434 There was way more than 7 amps (22.91Amps to be specific, if you knew basic electrical equations you should have been able to deduce that yourself). Also a PF of 93% is not impossible. Where on earth did you get that idea? The meter is measuring ALL of the motors amp draws. Based on your comments, I don't think you have a firm grasp of electrical theory.
@ProTechPlumbing You only have one leg in meter. I'm not saying 93% correction is impossible. I'm saying motors are only 65-75% efficient Stereos are 67% efficient, I've tested them .
I've found that my bill did go down about 6%, then adding solar feed back of 150 watts has increased it to about 10 or 11 %. hard to measure my use because I'm constantly adding led lighting, cfl bulbs, and hot water panels for the electric hot water tank. I think my power factor device is working. mine is two inexspensive units added one to each phase of the main panel.
This is not the case of regular house. The average PF is around 70%. Correcting the power factor in your home will make your electrical distribution capacity increase and lowers your current flow back to the utility with less voltage drops. Or in other words put backwards: A low power factor reduces your electrical system's distribution capacity by increasing current flow and causing voltage drops. I calculated the amount of savings and it came out to be 8.3% .
The average PF is around 70%. Correcting the power factor in your home will make your electrical distribution capacity increase and lowers your current flow back to the utility with less voltage drops. Or in other words put backwards: A low power factor reduces your electrical system's distribution capacity by increasing current flow and causing voltage drops. I calculated the amount that this device can save you on a regular house and it came out to be 8.3% on your monthly bill.
Hi ProTechPlumbing: the purpose of this device is to correct the power factor in your electrical system. In your case you have a close to excellent PF which means your loads are close to max efficiency or are not inductive loads. In your case you will not see much of a difference in your bill because you are only correcting approx. 0.027.
@80kenuel Like so many before you, you fail to understand that the device produced a ZERO reduction in watts. Since watts are what the power company bills you for (not volt-amps) and the unit does not reduce wattage at all. It does not save any money. Go back and watch the power quality analyzer in the video. You will see that the wattage actually goes up, not down. Nice try though.
you have it wired up wrong or the unit is bad. and with the loads you have turned on, you probably need a bigger unit or another one wired up in parallel.
@H8ISGR8 I'm getting pretty tired of people telling me "you must have a bad unit". The unit IS working. it has nothing more than 2 capacitors inside and you can clearly see the PF change on my meter when the unit is flipped on. The sad fact is this: The unit IS working and hooked up according to the manufacturer’s instructions and it is "working", it just isn't saving the home owner any power.......and it never will or any other unit installed in a residential setting.
@ProTechPlumbing I've seen the Power Save 1200 upclose on a demonstration board, wired to a typical 220AC evaporator motor and watched the PF jump way more significantly than what your video shows. Perhaps the owners is running all Energy Green appliances and he's getting way better PF than most. I've seen video where the PF is around .575 and as soon as the device is powered on it goes up to .980+. If you really want to save, get a grid-tied PV system which really does cut KW usage from grid.
@H8ISGR8 Even if that was true(which it isn't), that would not explain why there is ZERO change in KWA consumption (the thing that residential power consumer are billed for). It's really simple to under stand. ZERO reduction in watts=ZERO reduction in power bill. What part of that don't you get. IF it was undersized, it would only reduce that wattage(and bill) less........not ZERO
I have also installed over a hundred of these. A different model. I have had customers call me and say that they have saved them up to 20%. Although newer models have come out since this video as well. Also the box could be a dud. Which I have run across. As long as its hooked up correct and you have the right box for the breaker box it will work.
So I read all these comments on here and all these meths about what people think they know, but facts show the differences. Look at all the peoples power bills that have shown the savings, the news stories, and the Dept of Energy who endorces this... No need to argue back with me, you will only be wasting your time as I believe what I have seen in 1,000's of customers Bills, not what others claim to know.
@sturner698 I also run into people on a daily basis that swear that since they installed their new electric tankless water heater that their bill went down by $50 per month. The trouble is, their whole cost to heat water is less than that to begin with and you will not see any higher than 5% reduction in that situation. When people spend money on energy saving devices they want to believe that it was money well spent. The truth is that a power bill varies too much to simply look at it and tell.
@MrHillDo So why don't every new home have energy star saving appliances??? It's because they are trying to make the biggest dollar they can. That is why they dont install into everyone's home...
@MrHillDo That's not a true statement. Noboby gives anyone anything without getting paid. These units have not been cost effective until recently when the cost of electric has skyrocketed. now they make sense if you electric bill is over $100 per month.
@jeepers2655 If the power quality analyzer doesn't pick up a change on the service conductors, neither will the power companies kilowatt-hour meter on the same line. Nice try though.
Utilitiy Companies all across America use Capacitors on their systems. The millions of dollars invested should prompt you to dig a little deeper in your research. Try understanding what you are seeing first!
@dhobbs11 They use capacitors to reduce amperage and the subsequent conductor size needed. It's not for reducing wattage (what residential customers are solely billed for). Nice try though.
I appreciate the effort but if you don't understand the principle of putting a capacitor on the system then all the test in the world won't help understand the value of unit. Correcting the power factor will ultimately save homeowner money. Realizing it instantly or long term is determine by amount and age of motor run appliances (Air condition, Washing machine, Pumps, ect.) being effected. Those appliances w/motors run smoother and cooler, which will increase longevity!
I have a question, these manufactures does show that the energy meter slows down when these devices are connected. If there is no change, how is the meter slowing down.
Thanks for this informative video. I'm not that technical, but I thought the demo video and the site info for the power-save 1200 was bogus because there was zero reference to what is going on in the magic box. There were no technical specs to be found anywhere. So I found your video and it confirmed the old adage, "If it's too good to be true, it probably is." I really appreciate you saving me $300!
HI was watching other video on unit .One have doudle pull single switch say use doudle pull doudle switch.Not sure make different plus might have bad unit got 20 year warranty on good unit.If not got junk from junk company.Look around before buying that my 2 cent. Thanks
I have heard that "powersaver" boxes do not work. I have heard that they do work. The main component in a powersaver box is capacitors sized to handle the approximate electricity demand(s). Without trying to sound like a know more about this then I do, a capacitor provides multiple benefits for electric motors are positive items.Question: What could be installed or modified that would have the opposite effect on these appliances and raise load demands ? Or is electricity just electricity?
Capacitors are used on (and custom sized to) motors to shift the voltage and amperage sin waves in phase with each other so that work can be done by increasing power factor. That would be a valid application. These one size fits all units don't do that. wattage is wattage. The simplest thing I can tell you without getting into pages and pages of electrical theory is LOOK AT THE METER in the video. The meter doesn't lie. Wattage DID NOT go down with th PF correction unit turned on. Simple simple.
Adding a capacitor to a motor doesn't provide any benefits to the motor. All a capacitor does is supply VARS... and a motor requires VARS. Without the capacitor the VARS are supplied by the utility.
In a residence you pay for Watts, a capacitor in no way can supply Watts.
How so? The cap provides vars, the motor needs them. Otherwise they come from the utility.
Putting the cap on increases pf and provides the benefit of lower line losses, if you look at it from the source. But as far as providing a benefit to the motor, the phase displacement between the cap and the motor remain the same.
If you were to look at the phase displacement of the line before the cap youll see things are more in phase.
All that is because the cap is providing vars to the motor.
A var is defined as volt-ampere reactive and is used to measure reactive power, the counterpart to real power (watts). Since a capacitor supplies reactive power you say it supplies vars. Just like a generator supplies real power or watts (and supplies reactive power (vars) too).
A motor requires vars to operate, they supply the magnetic power in the air gap.
Anything with an inductive motor is going to pull a larger load than might be needed because the motor has to assume that you might need that power, when the power is not used it is wasted as heat, is this an answer to your question?
ProTech... I heard that the amount of savings directly correlates to the age of your appliances. Anything that is not "Energy Star Rated" see the benefit. I have talked to individuals with older appliances (such as furnaces, air conditioners, fans, etc) that have seen a huge drop in electricity bills. I have also heard that those that are current energy efficient do not see hardly any benefit. How energy efficient is the household that you are testing?
You are right about the older appliances but unfortunately its a mute point.
If you have older appliances it will save the power company money but it will not lower your bill any for the reasons previously discussed in the video.
It will reduce volt-amps, not watts. Since you are billed for watts not volt-amps it will not save you any money.
Watts and volt-amps are not the same thing and your power meter on your house CAN tell the difference between the 2.
Yeah great video. I am wondering what device if any can help reduce the load, in our state we give great incentives for solar and wind power, but I live in the middle of the state, so I am looking for other alternatives to save customers money, lots in insulation guys here. So I guess I am pretty upset over these results and glad I didn't waste a investment in them. I just want to help people.
There is no magic device. Use energy efficient appliances and teach the property resident to be energy efficient. Wind, solar and geo thermal can save money and energy if designed properly for the specific application. Way to much stuff to cover in a you tube comment.
I'm with you ProTech. Why is they use a $20.00 meter to test their claims? Could it be accuracy. And why do they insist only showing the amps in lieu of the watts. I would challenge any residential customer to submit an electric bill, which indicates a Power factor Charge. People need to go to the Department of Energy website "What Power Factor Can and Cannot Do". These devices are Smoke and Mirrors.
You're getting quite repetitive. How many times did you say customers are billed on kWh instead of kVAh?
Obviously, you have nearly unity power factor as the most of the load in a dryer is resistive and air conditioner compressors are heavily loaded, so you don't really have a free coasting motor with a low PF.
Yes. Compact fluorescent light bulbs or LED lights bulbs and/or natural solar lighting. Solar water heaters. Solar photovoltaic cells and/or wind turbines and/or hydro turbines. Geothermal heat pumps. Solar pool heaters (if you have a pool that you want heated). Insulation.
None of that is cheap. If it's cheap and easy, it's a scam. Just remember what mom said: "If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is."
I cant speek for your device, but I tested my unit, myself, brand new & have seen very different results, you stated yourself yours is not new, perhaps it's been damaged, have you opened it, to see if there is anything other than a light bulb in there?
I'd have to ask please make a more detailed & complete video, take it apart test the parts show us your right.
Don't put together a half ass video & say there you have it...put this to rest..bla...bla...bla...
Yes, I have opened the unit. The capacitors are working because we saw the PF (Power Factor) change. If the capacitors were damaged 1 of 2 things would have happened. 1 the amperage would have went thru the roof if a cap shorted and the breaker would trip or 2 nothing at all would happen due to an open circuit in the unit(no PF change). Make sense?
I just spent major bank replacing all my exterior floodlights with LED floodlights. It was painfully expensive, but I am so excited that for years and years I will be saving bucks. Just curious, other than pure conservation and without going solar, what would you say is the single best energy saving technology for a standard home?
Solar thermal is usually cost effective in southern climates. That's a pretty broad question and there are many factors that need to be considered. There aren't too many solutions that work well in every climate and every house. You need to contact a energy consultant to find what solutions will best suite your specific situation.
As a general rule, there is no single solution that work for everyone other than the basics (insulation, efficient appliances)
Ok he is not testing this right. Funny not one box has been returned and all customers have seen a saving including my self of 20%! how could this be? Because it works! i went from averaging $180 a month down to $96-$97 a month with this unit. Everyone that I know that has one has seen savings in the next billing cycle!
BlackHypnotist4 2 days ago
I believe that your comments are not supported as the kvar shows a sustainable change lower could you be so kind to explain to the masses what that does to the cost of electricity, Oh by the way are you employed by an electrical power company, they charge on the use of the total of the used or unused from both legs, so have you been really honest with what you say?
migbest1 1 month ago
nice tester!
peakcur 2 months ago
Power factor correction is only really an industrial thing if the process uses a lot of inductive loads like motors and refrigeration equipment. They dont "save" you on your power bill, they help correct large instantanious loads that the meter wont pick up, but the power company WILL charge you for in increased electrical service size requirements and fees. This is not so much a scam as more just selling a product to unsuspecting consumers that have no use for it.
mysock351W 2 months ago
Hi
I have commented on youtube before on these units but they keep coming back.
I have worked with power factor correction for over 20 years.
Considering you are not an electrician you have shown it is a complete waste of time and money well done.
These units are available under €5 but are of no use for domestic meters.
If any body has one of these installed in the house remove it, it needs a blocking inductor. It is amplifying certain emisions and will cause damage to S.M. electronics.
Ecoenergy 2 months ago
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There's a sales lady calling me repeatedly from this company. When I told her I needed to check it out she emailed me FAQ's about the product, lol. Ya, like I'm going to take their word at face value. I was true to my word and checked them out and after this video my answer will be, be "no" when she calls tomorrow.
MrCorey282 4 months ago
There's a sales lady calling me repeatedly from this company. When I told her I needed to get it out she emailed me FAQ's about the product, lol. Ya, like I'm going to take their word at face value. I was true to my word and checked them out and after this video my answer will be, be "no" when she calls tomorrow.
MrCorey282 4 months ago
The post below about a data logger/capacitors charging is bunk, BS,horse dump. Capacitors are charging and discharging instantly when connected to the line. Where do these guys come from? Makes me laugh...flywheel for your home...that's funny...
Dynetric 4 months ago
Thanks for posting. Good job. Stay the course, you have done well. These guys are scammers and/or know nothing about AC electricity. All they want is a quick buck from uninformed consumers. Have faith. Your analysis is correct. Of course those of us who do electronics already knew this since everything about power factor correction was already worked out prior to 1920. You can find it in the book "Alternating Current Machinery", McGraw-Hill, copyright 1916. Thanks again..
Dynetric 4 months ago
If you look at the meter, the power quality was already high, but still increased every time you turned it on.
supared25 5 months ago
You need a data logger. If you know how capacitors work, they have to charge. Turning the device on and off like that would not give you appreciable results anyhow. These would do much better for spikes. You should see more even power flow to your home. Some power companies put conditioning devices in their transmission lines. They are usually mechanical flywheels. Although some power companies are cheap and flywheels come at a cost. This is like a flywheel for your home, but done with capacito
supared25 5 months ago
And to think they shut down childrens lemonade stands all over now. But some how always manage t let this crap slide by. I see it all the time in many products that are junk.
He who's crookedest in the game of life wins! But what about after that?
a2zhandi 5 months ago
this guy is full of it.i installed one in april this year i only paid a 100.00 for it and
it has already paid for itself.and i can prove it with my power bill.
mma4life31 7 months ago
Is this with a couple of motors in the house running or not?? These things supposedly only save on motors running.
is this in your house or someone elses? did the electric bill go down from the previous year or not. howabout with the air conditioner running??
HardyTechnologies 8 months ago
Well done. Of course, if EACH inductive load had IT'S OWN correction caps that cut out of circuit when the motor does (and the cap is well tuned to it's motor's inductance) it could be a benefit. Just picking some random capacitance and putting it across God-knows-what (and ever changing) inductance makes no sense. Thanks for posting!
glasstronic 8 months ago
I don't under stand if u drop ur load as in amps it should also drop ur watts too ?
Jeepjones85 8 months ago
Do not you see the RED LIGHT on it ? Guess what does that RED LIGHT mean? I do not know this brand but a similar product I have has GREEN LIGHT on it and works great. powersaver1200
jump2top 9 months ago
well i thought you could find the link on the youtube address i put. if not go to youtube, and search desert energy saver testimonial by shawnee you can see my results. and if this doesnt convince you, you should check to see if you have a pulse!!
cybspac1 11 months ago
Well here is what I found out about my box i had installed on my house. proof is in the pudding. I have 4 years of electric bills and 2010 i had a box installed if this is a scam them I will take a dozen of them.
youtube.com/watch?v=FI6YrDthqdY
cybspac1 11 months ago
Looking on the web, I see some interesting stuff. Numbers like at best, a correction for 0.7% phase diff is realistic - and residential is NOT charged for KVA, just KW. And Energy Star (ya think they have engineers good enuf fer ya??) does not qualify these as useful. And, this test is what the builder describes - but this includes everything to make it look as good as possible. Thx for separating real from "cause my bible says so" bull.
zJoeB 11 months ago
Some interesting comments - I do have one of these units - when I asked how to test, I got that I had to test the amps at the feed to the house.. How many people can do that? Let's see, it is essentially a straight wire, except for resistance of the wire and the circuit breaker between the house feed and the fridge, for instance. Why can't I take my kill-a-watt tester, which I just bought, and measure it there? 'cause. Hmm.. I have a problem following the electrical principle here..
zJoeB 11 months ago
These "power saver" units are a huge scam. They simply do not work. Even worse, they typically have a slipshod U.L. listing. I've had several of my customers ask me about this scam in the last several months, so I guess it is making a resurgence. Save your money for the gas pump folks.
nunyabiznesss 11 months ago
The problem you have here is bad design and installation, you clearly don't need a PFC unit because your power factor is good with or without loads acording to the readings. PFC correction is only needed if the power factor is below .90, good PF is usually .95 - .99. If you ad a pfc (power factor correction) unit to these high numbers you would go over on your capacitance and yes this will increase your bill. Don't do this if you don't know how.
VillageGoneGreen 1 year ago
at 2:12 in the video, the kwh jumps high, but with the 1200 on, it was below 7.9 but when you switched it backl off it jumped up.... also, you need to allow the caps to charge to show a difference. also you need to check the kw/hr readings, as they go down when the unit is on, this is what the electric company charges, is the KWH
donnyfranks 1 year ago
at 2:12 in the video, the kwh jumps high, but with the 1200 on, it was below 7.9 but when you switched it backl off it jumped up.... also, you need to allow the caps to charge to show a difference.
donnyfranks 1 year ago
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cableguyi7 1 year ago
IF you have a 90 degree shift between voltage and amps, power factor correction reduces energy dissapation in coils and wiring. Under load, power factor in the curcuit corrects itself. It's useless under load, however some efficiency impovements DO reduce current draw in devices with coils (plug in power supplies, florescent lights, appliance motors). Most homes wouldn't see more than a 6 to 8 percent efficiency gain. If you pay less than 300 a month for power, It's not worth the cost.
allsystech 1 year ago
Thanks, I'm tired of scams. Finally someone with a good meter proved it.
Also. two of these devices I checked with UL were not listed as they claim. Is it really worth getting your meter pulled or worse jail for stealing.
TheAlabamaCajun 1 year ago
Have you seen that the power factor is negative? You have too much capacitance and that is your problem.
ThePFCBox 1 year ago
Thank you for making this video, I knew this was a scam looking at it the first time on a video.
gailgrove 1 year ago
Very interesting video however I have one of the power save 1200 units on my house and it is working very good I can see through my power bill that I am saving from 15% in the summer time my home is all electric and it works beautifully for me like I see someone else said may be need a licensed electrician to come look at your power box do not forget your power saver comes with a five year warranty question did you have a water leak inside your power box? have yourself a good day
1pcdoc 1 year ago
@1pcdoc This is curious, I'd still like to believe that I wasn't scammed in buying a unit, and think maybe since it won't save money, it helps on spikes and motor startup? Since it corrects KVA, not KW, and your house is billed at KW, I have a problem understanding how this is really saving money. You can't measure it, just as this test shows, and I assume that my use changes so I wouldn't know. I believe that your use is just down 15% now. This unit simply saves based upon faith not facts?
zJoeB 11 months ago
@zJoeB
If you still have this unit installed remove it, it is amplifying any electrical ac discharge as it does not have an inductive block or filter.
A capacitor on ac ac circuit reacts differently to a dc capacitor which can smooth out ripples.
The unit will amplify harmonics and spikes in the electrical system damaging electronics.
Ecoenergy 2 months ago
They advertise a 25% cost savings, so a couple of power bills should prove them right or wrong false.
Ultrabluu 1 year ago
Has anyone placed a Kvar unit in there homes? If so email i have a few question to ask........thanks firedeptofficeremt@yahoo.com
George422fd 1 year ago
@George422fd Yes, that is what this whole video is about. No observable savings.
ProTechPlumbing 1 year ago
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at 2:12 in the video, the kwh jumps high, but with the 1200 on, it was below 7.9 but when you switched it backl off it jumped up.... also, you need to allow the caps to charge to show a difference. also you need to check the kw/hr readings, as they go down when the unit is on, this is what the electric company charges, is the KWH
donnyfranks 1 year ago
By just watching this video and the condition of your electrics I can understand
what your problem is. Go back to the drawing board or technical college.
regards and good learning..........
leo
eliasgreco123 1 year ago
@eliasgreco123 Oh really? Why don't you explain it then. What specifically is wrong withy my "electrics".
What specifically is wrong? Since you’re the expert here, I know you will have no problem answering.
ProTechPlumbing 1 year ago 5
This comment has received too many negative votes show
This guy obviously works for the competition and it's obviously uninformed or sold a damaged unit.
claudiacallejas 1 year ago
@claudiacallejas Again with this damaged unit stuff. Look, the fact that the PF does change (as shown on the power quality analyzer) shows that the caps in the unit are working. There are no other parts inside the unit but 2 caps. Since we see the capacitance jump (in the form of PF change) we know that they are working. Seriously, this isn't rocker science. This is basic electrical theory.
ProTechPlumbing 1 year ago 3
@ProTechPlumbing "RED LIGHT" shows that is not functioning properly. I do not know this brand or recommend it but looks like this video is a scam. I se a different one with GREEN LIGHT on it..
jump2top 9 months ago
@claudiacallejas you are the one who doesn't know WTF you are talking about. Go to school and get a degree (as ProTech obviously has) and when you can explain what TRUE POWER, APPARENT POWER, POWER FACTOR, REACTIVE POWER to the satisfaction of a REAL engineer, then you have the right to open your yap and talk 5hit... till then, 5hut up... it's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than it is to open it and remove all doubt.
jeffpicks 1 year ago
@claudiacallejas you are the one who doesn't know WTF you are talking about. Go to school and get a degree (as ProTech obviously has) and when you can explain what TRUE POWER, APPARENT POWER, POWER FACTOR, REACTIVE POWER to the satisfaction of a REAL engineer, then you have the right to open your yap and talk 5hit... till then, 5hut up... it's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than it is to open it and remove all doubt.
jeffpicks 1 year ago
You got it perfect ,you should explaine VAR ,volt amps reactive , this gos a long way to help a person understand whats going on .if they can get power factor the rest is no prob.
jenko701 1 year ago
You only have one leg of box in meter . 220 uses two legs, like a/c. maybe try other leg to see if more draw is on that side.
hondo434 1 year ago
@hondo434 You have again shown just how little you know with your comments. The power quality analyzer measures with voltage with the leads (2, 120 volt phases 180 degrees apart) and the amperage with the inductive clamp (all of the 240v loads and which ever 120v loads are fed from the clamped phase. While there would be a slight difference in the 120v loads from 1 phase to the other due to load imbalance, it would not significantly change the readings as most of the loads were 240v. nice try
ProTechPlumbing 1 year ago
@ProTechPlumbing Well I can see that you are in your own dream world and not really looking for trouble shooting your unit, so good luck!
hondo434 1 year ago
@hondo434 Trouble shoot?? Are you serious? It's just 2 capacitors twinned to a branch circuit on the main panel. There is nothing to trouble shoot! The caps are either producing capacitance or not, plain and simple. The simple fact that the PF does in fact change when the unit is turned on shows that they are working. They just aren't reducing wattage. Go learn what a triac is and how the power companies meter works. Then get back with me an try to continue this debate. Until then, I'm done.
ProTechPlumbing 1 year ago
electric companies use capacitors to increase efficiency in thier own lines. They save money. Power saver save customers money on thier lines.
hondo434 1 year ago
@hondo434 They do in fact use capacitors to reduce KVA. The reason they do this is to reduce the amperage so that smaller conductors can be used. The money they save is mainly on material costs.
ProTechPlumbing 1 year ago
You have meter hooked up wrong or you aren't hooked to where power draw is. If you have that much load operating you wouldn't show 5.5 amp draw. The power factor would not be 95%. The power save needs 7 amps to fill capacitor banks. Amp draw above the 7 amps will see reduction in amp draw for inductive load. Resistive load like electric ranges are 100% efficient and have no savings-
hondo434 1 year ago
@hondo434 - if resistive load is tested it will average the total load to a higher PF reading. Motors are the only thing that can be power factor corrected.
hondo434 1 year ago
@hondo434 1st: Where did you see a 5.5 amp draw? That meter didn't even have amps displayed. 2nd: the only resistive loads that where on where a few light and the dryer, everything else was inductive. I had all of the fans on, the dryer and the AC. Sorry, nice try, but no dice. 3rd: The meter is NOT hooked up wrong and you can plainly see how it is hooked up and I explained how it was hooked up in the video. So either you didn't pay attention, or you know nothing about power quality analyzers
ProTechPlumbing 1 year ago
@ProTechPlumbing i don't know why you are so adament about believing these units don't work. Like I said your meter shows 5.5kva and 93% pf .that is impossible with any inductive load. You need to isolate a motor that you know the exact amp draw. It must be over 7Amps for the power saver to work.
hondo434 1 year ago
@hondo434 There was way more than 7 amps (22.91Amps to be specific, if you knew basic electrical equations you should have been able to deduce that yourself). Also a PF of 93% is not impossible. Where on earth did you get that idea? The meter is measuring ALL of the motors amp draws. Based on your comments, I don't think you have a firm grasp of electrical theory.
ProTechPlumbing 1 year ago
@ProTechPlumbing You only have one leg in meter. I'm not saying 93% correction is impossible. I'm saying motors are only 65-75% efficient Stereos are 67% efficient, I've tested them .
hondo434 1 year ago
@ProTechPlumbing KVA- Volts times amps = watts. the kva is different from watts because there is a varience in the volts supplied.
hondo434 1 year ago
Mmmm, i love busting scams.
YummyMercury 1 year ago
you have it hooked up wrong, the KW goes down 30% at least for me. You're meter is off dude, go buy a new one or maybe you got a bad unit.
bordens47 1 year ago
I've found that my bill did go down about 6%, then adding solar feed back of 150 watts has increased it to about 10 or 11 %. hard to measure my use because I'm constantly adding led lighting, cfl bulbs, and hot water panels for the electric hot water tank. I think my power factor device is working. mine is two inexspensive units added one to each phase of the main panel.
angelskandy4u2 1 year ago
This is not the case of regular house. The average PF is around 70%. Correcting the power factor in your home will make your electrical distribution capacity increase and lowers your current flow back to the utility with less voltage drops. Or in other words put backwards: A low power factor reduces your electrical system's distribution capacity by increasing current flow and causing voltage drops. I calculated the amount of savings and it came out to be 8.3% .
80kenuel 1 year ago
The average PF is around 70%. Correcting the power factor in your home will make your electrical distribution capacity increase and lowers your current flow back to the utility with less voltage drops. Or in other words put backwards: A low power factor reduces your electrical system's distribution capacity by increasing current flow and causing voltage drops. I calculated the amount that this device can save you on a regular house and it came out to be 8.3% on your monthly bill.
80kenuel 1 year ago
Hi ProTechPlumbing: the purpose of this device is to correct the power factor in your electrical system. In your case you have a close to excellent PF which means your loads are close to max efficiency or are not inductive loads. In your case you will not see much of a difference in your bill because you are only correcting approx. 0.027.
80kenuel 1 year ago
@80kenuel Like so many before you, you fail to understand that the device produced a ZERO reduction in watts. Since watts are what the power company bills you for (not volt-amps) and the unit does not reduce wattage at all. It does not save any money. Go back and watch the power quality analyzer in the video. You will see that the wattage actually goes up, not down. Nice try though.
ProTechPlumbing 1 year ago
You are correct. It does Not save money in the bill!
80kenuel 1 year ago
you have it wired up wrong or the unit is bad. and with the loads you have turned on, you probably need a bigger unit or another one wired up in parallel.
H8ISGR8 1 year ago
@H8ISGR8 I'm getting pretty tired of people telling me "you must have a bad unit". The unit IS working. it has nothing more than 2 capacitors inside and you can clearly see the PF change on my meter when the unit is flipped on. The sad fact is this: The unit IS working and hooked up according to the manufacturer’s instructions and it is "working", it just isn't saving the home owner any power.......and it never will or any other unit installed in a residential setting.
ProTechPlumbing 1 year ago
@ProTechPlumbing I've seen the Power Save 1200 upclose on a demonstration board, wired to a typical 220AC evaporator motor and watched the PF jump way more significantly than what your video shows. Perhaps the owners is running all Energy Green appliances and he's getting way better PF than most. I've seen video where the PF is around .575 and as soon as the device is powered on it goes up to .980+. If you really want to save, get a grid-tied PV system which really does cut KW usage from grid.
H8ISGR8 1 year ago
@H8ISGR8 Even if that was true(which it isn't), that would not explain why there is ZERO change in KWA consumption (the thing that residential power consumer are billed for). It's really simple to under stand. ZERO reduction in watts=ZERO reduction in power bill. What part of that don't you get. IF it was undersized, it would only reduce that wattage(and bill) less........not ZERO
ProTechPlumbing 1 year ago
I have also installed over a hundred of these. A different model. I have had customers call me and say that they have saved them up to 20%. Although newer models have come out since this video as well. Also the box could be a dud. Which I have run across. As long as its hooked up correct and you have the right box for the breaker box it will work.
ccevans84 1 year ago
this guy is full of it, i've installed 10 power-saves 1200, and there working well and saving our customers 15% t0 20%.. The End
bigcalif 1 year ago
@bigcalif As measured how? Someone's full of it, but it is not the author of this video.
paulusgnome 1 year ago
So I read all these comments on here and all these meths about what people think they know, but facts show the differences. Look at all the peoples power bills that have shown the savings, the news stories, and the Dept of Energy who endorces this... No need to argue back with me, you will only be wasting your time as I believe what I have seen in 1,000's of customers Bills, not what others claim to know.
sturner698 1 year ago 2
@sturner698 So would you be kind enough to show me exactly where the DOE endorses this "product" please?
canadadrugssh 1 year ago
@sturner698 I also run into people on a daily basis that swear that since they installed their new electric tankless water heater that their bill went down by $50 per month. The trouble is, their whole cost to heat water is less than that to begin with and you will not see any higher than 5% reduction in that situation. When people spend money on energy saving devices they want to believe that it was money well spent. The truth is that a power bill varies too much to simply look at it and tell.
ProTechPlumbing 1 year ago
If they worked every new home would have one built in it.
MrHillDo 1 year ago
@MrHillDo So why don't every new home have energy star saving appliances??? It's because they are trying to make the biggest dollar they can. That is why they dont install into everyone's home...
sturner698 1 year ago
@MrHillDo ,, and every new home would have solar on there roofs too, but,it's the power co. lobbist who keep the laws against us
bigcalif 1 year ago
@MrHillDo That's not a true statement. Noboby gives anyone anything without getting paid. These units have not been cost effective until recently when the cost of electric has skyrocketed. now they make sense if you electric bill is over $100 per month.
hondo434 1 year ago
you seem to have hooked it up to the incoming line .....that will not change.
jeepers2655 1 year ago
@jeepers2655 If the power quality analyzer doesn't pick up a change on the service conductors, neither will the power companies kilowatt-hour meter on the same line. Nice try though.
ProTechPlumbing 1 year ago 7
Utilitiy Companies all across America use Capacitors on their systems. The millions of dollars invested should prompt you to dig a little deeper in your research. Try understanding what you are seeing first!
dhobbs11 1 year ago
@dhobbs11 They use capacitors to reduce amperage and the subsequent conductor size needed. It's not for reducing wattage (what residential customers are solely billed for). Nice try though.
ProTechPlumbing 1 year ago
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I appreciate the effort but if you don't understand the principle of putting a capacitor on the system then all the test in the world won't help understand the value of unit. Correcting the power factor will ultimately save homeowner money. Realizing it instantly or long term is determine by amount and age of motor run appliances (Air condition, Washing machine, Pumps, ect.) being effected. Those appliances w/motors run smoother and cooler, which will increase longevity!
dhobbs11 1 year ago
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dhobbs11 1 year ago
I have an outdoor wood furnance...this furnace uses two water pumps that run constant...do you think this unit would help the power load??? Thanks
rblain4780 1 year ago
Thanks for posting. These things are snake oil.
I'm a licensed electrical contractor, but what do I know...
bauler 2 years ago
I have a question, these manufactures does show that the energy meter slows down when these devices are connected. If there is no change, how is the meter slowing down.
vsivaram73 2 years ago
I have yet to see any such demonstration. Where could I find this video?
ProTechPlumbing 2 years ago
Thanks for this informative video. I'm not that technical, but I thought the demo video and the site info for the power-save 1200 was bogus because there was zero reference to what is going on in the magic box. There were no technical specs to be found anywhere. So I found your video and it confirmed the old adage, "If it's too good to be true, it probably is." I really appreciate you saving me $300!
arthousefilms 2 years ago
Glad to be of help...I Guess.
arrangreenleaf 2 years ago
Thanks for debunking the mith
bradcarroll 2 years ago
Your Welcome!
arrangreenleaf 2 years ago
HI was watching other video on unit .One have doudle pull single switch say use doudle pull doudle switch.Not sure make different plus might have bad unit got 20 year warranty on good unit.If not got junk from junk company.Look around before buying that my 2 cent. Thanks
pikemaster2011 2 years ago
I have heard that "powersaver" boxes do not work. I have heard that they do work. The main component in a powersaver box is capacitors sized to handle the approximate electricity demand(s). Without trying to sound like a know more about this then I do, a capacitor provides multiple benefits for electric motors are positive items.Question: What could be installed or modified that would have the opposite effect on these appliances and raise load demands ? Or is electricity just electricity?
MediumCooool 2 years ago
Capacitors are used on (and custom sized to) motors to shift the voltage and amperage sin waves in phase with each other so that work can be done by increasing power factor. That would be a valid application. These one size fits all units don't do that. wattage is wattage. The simplest thing I can tell you without getting into pages and pages of electrical theory is LOOK AT THE METER in the video. The meter doesn't lie. Wattage DID NOT go down with th PF correction unit turned on. Simple simple.
ProTechPlumbing 2 years ago
Adding a capacitor to a motor doesn't provide any benefits to the motor. All a capacitor does is supply VARS... and a motor requires VARS. Without the capacitor the VARS are supplied by the utility.
In a residence you pay for Watts, a capacitor in no way can supply Watts.
taylortownmayor 2 years ago
I think you have your electrical theory a bit fuzzy.
ProTechPlumbing 2 years ago
How so? The cap provides vars, the motor needs them. Otherwise they come from the utility.
Putting the cap on increases pf and provides the benefit of lower line losses, if you look at it from the source. But as far as providing a benefit to the motor, the phase displacement between the cap and the motor remain the same.
If you were to look at the phase displacement of the line before the cap youll see things are more in phase.
All that is because the cap is providing vars to the motor.
taylortownmayor 2 years ago
Caps do not supply vars. They shift the voltage and amperage phases closer togther so that vars are reduced closer to watts as the PF gets better.
ProTechPlumbing 2 years ago
So if they dont supply vars, what do they supply?
A var is defined as volt-ampere reactive and is used to measure reactive power, the counterpart to real power (watts). Since a capacitor supplies reactive power you say it supplies vars. Just like a generator supplies real power or watts (and supplies reactive power (vars) too).
A motor requires vars to operate, they supply the magnetic power in the air gap.
taylortownmayor 2 years ago
I do agree they provide a phase shift. But they do supply the imaginary portion of apparent power called vars.
I like your .308 AR! I've got some videos of my .45's and some shooting an FN P90 full auto.
taylortownmayor 2 years ago
Anything with an inductive motor is going to pull a larger load than might be needed because the motor has to assume that you might need that power, when the power is not used it is wasted as heat, is this an answer to your question?
arrangreenleaf 2 years ago
ProTech... I heard that the amount of savings directly correlates to the age of your appliances. Anything that is not "Energy Star Rated" see the benefit. I have talked to individuals with older appliances (such as furnaces, air conditioners, fans, etc) that have seen a huge drop in electricity bills. I have also heard that those that are current energy efficient do not see hardly any benefit. How energy efficient is the household that you are testing?
graveyardofburn 2 years ago
You are right about the older appliances but unfortunately its a mute point.
If you have older appliances it will save the power company money but it will not lower your bill any for the reasons previously discussed in the video.
It will reduce volt-amps, not watts. Since you are billed for watts not volt-amps it will not save you any money.
Watts and volt-amps are not the same thing and your power meter on your house CAN tell the difference between the 2.
ProTechPlumbing 2 years ago
Thank you.
You just saved me some money.
HistorynotHisStory 2 years ago
Great, that was my intention :)
ProTechPlumbing 2 years ago
Yeah great video. I am wondering what device if any can help reduce the load, in our state we give great incentives for solar and wind power, but I live in the middle of the state, so I am looking for other alternatives to save customers money, lots in insulation guys here. So I guess I am pretty upset over these results and glad I didn't waste a investment in them. I just want to help people.
freespeachrulez 2 years ago
There is no magic device. Use energy efficient appliances and teach the property resident to be energy efficient. Wind, solar and geo thermal can save money and energy if designed properly for the specific application. Way to much stuff to cover in a you tube comment.
ProTechPlumbing 2 years ago
I'm with you ProTech. Why is they use a $20.00 meter to test their claims? Could it be accuracy. And why do they insist only showing the amps in lieu of the watts. I would challenge any residential customer to submit an electric bill, which indicates a Power factor Charge. People need to go to the Department of Energy website "What Power Factor Can and Cannot Do". These devices are Smoke and Mirrors.
bakkoi 2 years ago
You're getting quite repetitive. How many times did you say customers are billed on kWh instead of kVAh?
Obviously, you have nearly unity power factor as the most of the load in a dryer is resistive and air conditioner compressors are heavily loaded, so you don't really have a free coasting motor with a low PF.
UrbexNW 2 years ago
I'm sorry, but were you going some where with that???
ProTechPlumbing 2 years ago
so... is there anything on the market that helps save money on your power bill?
RippleProductionsInc 2 years ago
Yes. Compact fluorescent light bulbs or LED lights bulbs and/or natural solar lighting. Solar water heaters. Solar photovoltaic cells and/or wind turbines and/or hydro turbines. Geothermal heat pumps. Solar pool heaters (if you have a pool that you want heated). Insulation.
None of that is cheap. If it's cheap and easy, it's a scam. Just remember what mom said: "If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is."
ProTechPlumbing 2 years ago
I cant speek for your device, but I tested my unit, myself, brand new & have seen very different results, you stated yourself yours is not new, perhaps it's been damaged, have you opened it, to see if there is anything other than a light bulb in there?
I'd have to ask please make a more detailed & complete video, take it apart test the parts show us your right.
Don't put together a half ass video & say there you have it...put this to rest..bla...bla...bla...
Is that not a fair request?
arrangreenleaf 2 years ago
Yes, I have opened the unit. The capacitors are working because we saw the PF (Power Factor) change. If the capacitors were damaged 1 of 2 things would have happened. 1 the amperage would have went thru the roof if a cap shorted and the breaker would trip or 2 nothing at all would happen due to an open circuit in the unit(no PF change). Make sense?
ProTechPlumbing 2 years ago
Hey ProTechPlumbing,
I just spent major bank replacing all my exterior floodlights with LED floodlights. It was painfully expensive, but I am so excited that for years and years I will be saving bucks. Just curious, other than pure conservation and without going solar, what would you say is the single best energy saving technology for a standard home?
arthousefilms 2 years ago
Solar thermal is usually cost effective in southern climates. That's a pretty broad question and there are many factors that need to be considered. There aren't too many solutions that work well in every climate and every house. You need to contact a energy consultant to find what solutions will best suite your specific situation.
As a general rule, there is no single solution that work for everyone other than the basics (insulation, efficient appliances)
ProTechPlumbing 2 years ago
Mabe if you were using the correct one for your home it would not be adding the as a scam video.
joeymcnew 2 years ago
And what unit would that be?
ProTechPlumbing 2 years ago
why would a new set of capacitors be bad?
ProTechPlumbing 2 years ago