Mike Huckabee on why the "Fair Tax" is Great

[rtgoodson]

Man! So much hate on these forums. The Fair Tax is better than the current system that we have in place. With the additional money that I keep, I could actually save money for retirement and education without having to worry about the government's failed entitlement programs.

[Daddy9Long]

Fairtax will happen and you will like it, nothing you can do about it. I can't wait for it... its going to save me tons of money and you poor fucks that don't want to do nothing but sit on your hands will suffer. Thats life... HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!!!!111111

[SouthernFriedHoney]

Daddy dumb legs -- wrong -- FT will NEVER ever even having a hearing under oath, Not ever.

Why? Because it's own leaders know it's a hoax. It's a farce. They aren't going to EVER allow a hearing under oath. Fucking NEVER.

Oh sure, it sounds great. IT sounds fantastic. But since it's based on pretending to tax the government -- its fucking insane. And the leaders KNOW it.

Got that retard?

[Taxfools]

Fairtax is a giant fkn hoax.

These bastards aren't just going to tax PEOPLE -- they want this same bullshit tax (the world's highest sales tax) on government spending.

That's right -- the fucking government will pay it.

Oh -- they say business can't really pay taxes, cause they pass the cost along.

Hello dumb fuk -- what the hell will government do? Not pass the cost along?

Fairtax KNOWS its bullshit.

Google my site "fairtax absurdity" : and learn something.

[Johnkoth]

@Taxfools Well your Saying that Income Taxes is better . Well this is How the Fair Tax is better then the Income Tax. Under Income Taxes will have to pay the Government money we earned. Under the Fair Tax will donot paid any money out of our paid check. Under the current Tax system when you buy something on average 22% of that Product or service cost is Costs that the Business pass to you because they had to paid taxes. ( Payroll and Corporate taxes) Under the Fair Tax the 22% is removed.

[NawwLeans]

Fairtax is great alright -- a great farce, A great magic pony who shits great gold

Its bullshit dufus. The leaders KNOW its bullshit magic pony.

They KNOW the government can't really pay itself a trillion in sales tax, and count that as income.

They KNOW renters and sick people will tell you morons to stick that tax up your ass - they aint paying sales tax on rent and chemo and surgery.

Fairtax logic in a nutshell: 2+2=5, therefore I am the pope.

[Johnkoth]

@NawwLeans Under the Fair Tax people will keep 100% of what they earned. Under the Fair Tax busniesses will bring back their Trillions of money overseas to invest in expandinf their business. Also Their willnot be Payroll Taxes and Corporate Taxes. Payroll Taxes and Corporate Taxes or Individual Income taxes are in the cost of things you buy and services you pay for. On Average 22% is added to the price of the product or service we pay for. Under the Fair Tax that is removed.

[NawwLeans]

@Johnkoth No you stupid fuck, that's what Fairtax tells you retards. Sometimes.

Go read their fine print you idiot. Honest, GO FUCKING READ THEIR FINE PRINT.

Google Fairtax fine print you idiot.

[NawwLeans]

Oh good -- a fairtax RALLY!!!

God I hope it works. Say, when you clowns get together at your little goofy rally -- why not ask each other a few questions.

Like -- where the hell is the government going to get the trillion dollars it would have to pay in taxes -- to itself?

Like-- can the government count that shit as income if it just pays itself?

Like -- how the fuch can cancer victims pay a huge sales tax on chemo.

Like -- does this magic pony really shit gold turds?

[nrobyar]

Huge Fair Tax Rally April 11, 2009 in Cola., SC. Gov. Huckabee, Neal Boortz and John Linder will all be there. Make plans to attend. HUGE crowds will make an impression and let the country know there is strong ground support to pass this into law.

[PegasusRPG]

That's April 15th, actually. Check the FairTax web site, right column to RSVP.

[LiarBoortz]

Fairtax leaders don't want congresional hearings dufus -- much less Fairtax to actually pass.

Fairtax is bullshit that pretends to get most government revenue by a magic tax on the government itself. Read the fuching book Page 148

"The federal government will become a MAJOR taxpayer"

Do you see that, you clown? The lying batards have to pretend to tax the government. If you can fucking tax the government retard - leave us alone. Just tax the government.

Idiots

[Loki8901]

they say that overall there WILL be more tax revenue under Obama but the majority of people will pay less i don't believe in out tax system i believe in the flat tax 24% of the price in a item gos to taxes a flat tax is 21% in a item so things go down it would exclude health care and food making it easier to live lowering health insurance by a estimated 17% the only people would lose is 125k-200k would lose 800$ in a yearly cash amount if you knock out the bush tax cuts...

[rngrsleadtheway]

MarkDouglasC is actually Mark Douglas Curran. He lives in Quincy, Illinois. He's a 56 year old convicted child molester. He was caught fondling a 6 year old boy. I know this because I live in Quincy. I thought you all should know. He is not a mentally stable person, as you can probably tell from his comments.

[denimblueindigo]

Interesting comment. What planet is that? It's just a little bit different here on earth.

[pattywengert]

I think that if the GOP doesn't accept Mike as the nominee, he should start the American Conservative party or something like that...Both the modern Democrat AND Republican parties have become so perverted by corporate greed and lust for power, that you cannot trust them...We really do need a viable third party, and the time has never been riper for it.

You know, if some "accident" happened to McCain, Obama, and Hillary then Mike would be a shoe in!

Mike Huckabee for President 2008!!!

[suds101]

Third parties dont work and never will. Sorry.

[Roxas42]

The Republican Party was a Third Party until Lincoln got elected President. Then it was the Whigs that faded into the history books and the Republicans rose to power.

[pattywengert]

Okay, ponder this:

Pro-homos say that they aren't hurting anyone if it is consensual etc.etc.etc...

But what if some one's cat is in heat and the owner begins stroking the cat's vagina...clearly, the cat is consenting as she is in heat...sick no?

Well...one might say, that this conduct is illegal etc. because it isn't natural for a human and a feline to have sexual contact...and I would agree.LIKEWISE, it is no more natural for some HOMO GUY to stick his member inside another's rectum.Sick!

[dabman88]

drug dealers, pimps and prostitutes don't care about taxes, in fact id say that they wouldn't mind paying taxes because that would make their activity LEGAL. i mean, the only thing the govt really cares about is getting its cut, not our health and safety; otherwise tobacco, alcohol, and fast food would just as illegal as crack cocaine.

[denimblueindigo]

Poor Paultard, doesn't see that Ron Paul isn't getting the votes. Nobody's voting for him. All they can do is spam the internet, but they can't seem to find the polling place to cast their vote. Ron Paul has 2 whole delegates! What a joke!

Mike Huckabee 2008!

[rjfrjf65]

Yea too bad Huckabee's done for. McCain 08.

[Synthesis420]

I couldn't really give a damn who wins, really, just as long as it's not Fuckabee. And besides, you're supporting Chuck Norris boy??? You want to talk about jokes??? Hahahaha!!!!

[flip9388]

haha this coming from someone who "smokes anything" and plays video games all day....

now that's a joke

[Synthesis420]

Oh fuck...are you kidding...? No more drug dealers? Where will I get my weed? Fuck Mike Huckabee, and anyone who supports him! Vote Ron Paul, bitches!!!

[rjfrjf65]

I don't support Ron Paul, but Mick Huckabee is a dangerous man, he would be the worst thing that could happen to this country. I'm a Republican, but I would take Obama or Clinton over Huckabee.

[denimblueindigo]

Let's see, and you think he's a dangerous man because he's Christian, right?

[rjfrjf65]

I think he's a dangerous man because he doesn't believe in evolution, he equated same-sex marriage with bestiality, he believes in the fair tax which could be the worst tax ever proposed and if he gets elected, I'd be worried about seperation of Church and State. It's got nothing to do with the fact that he's Christian.

[denimblueindigo]

Well, the vast majority of Americans do believe that homosexuals should not have the right to marriage. The majority of states support a constitutional amendment defining marriage as an institution between one man and one woman. You're entitled to your opinion however. Your vote belongs to you. Good luck.

[rjfrjf65]

Well you are entitled to your vote as well, I think it is true that a majority of Americans don't support gay marriage, but equating it wih bestiality is something else entirely.

[denimblueindigo]

In my opinion, I think that's splitting hairs. Homosexuality, like bestiality, is an unnatural and immoral act. One is just as bad as the other, so I don't see the difference one way or the other. However, what people do behind closed doors is none of my business. It's when they try to force their lifestyle on me and the public that causes me concern.

[rjfrjf65]

I don't see homosexuality as anywhere near as bad as bestiality, but that's just my opinion.

[thefakeyeti]

Imo..

Homosexuality is almost as "yucky" if not more.. then bestiality

I personally would rather have a close friend be a pig fucker then a man lover (IE.. I would be scared he would try to grope me or something"

BUT I do not think either should really be any of the governments business..

In order for the FEDERAL government to make bestiality against the law, is to add a amendment.

That would be the first amendment giving animals rights... sounds scarry then pig fuckers to me:P

[thefakeyeti]

The vast majority of people use to think that blacks and whites shouldn't be able to legally get married..

But the supreme court realized freedom should not be up to majority rule..

Also the majority of people wan't medical marijuana to be legal..

Hmmm and huckabee doesn't?

It's funny how people use majority vote as a argument when the majority is on THEIR side. But when it isn't... they ignore the vote..

[thefakeyeti]

oh and how is saying "I want to get married to my fellow man" Forcing their life style on you?

People like to say "Homosexuality is unatural" What they really mean is "It is unatural for me"

If it is so unatural, why can you find gay animals?

Also.. it is unatural to wear clothing..TAKE IT ALL OFF BABY!

[dabman88]

i entirely agree, it seems that the people that support the FairTax never took a macro economics course. Nothing is black and white when you are dealing with over 300 million people, and to argue otherwise is lying to yourself.

[denimblueindigo]

ATTENTION!!!

MarkDouglasC & MybookDeal & TaxSanity = the same person!

How do I know this? Look at the profiles... same age. Coincidence? How about this: MarkDouglasC told me in another post that he wrote books. Also notice... he spams all FairTax video's. NOBODY can be that against this unless he has an interest to protect. He's IRS plain and simple. Nice try Mark!

[patriciaoday]

The Fair Tax is great because it's a consumption tax. You get your entire paycheck and then you decide what to spend it on. The ONLY things that get the fair tax attached to it are NEW PURCHASES. If you shop at second hand stores you pay no tax. This would be a boom for eBayers and others doing transactions on the internet.

[Roxas42]

And to dispel the "Don't tax my food" nonsense: if you hunt or grow your own food, you don't pay taxes on it. What's that? You'd rather pay someone else to grow your food for you? Then suck it up and pay the tax, or suck it up and grow your own food.

[David12King]

@patriciaoday There isn't tax on internet items already.

[jimiduzit]

mark douglas c why do you sound so angry? do you work for the IRS?

[denimblueindigo]

He may be IRS, Tax Lobby or H&R Block. If you'll notice, he spams all of the Fair Tax video's. NOBODY is that against the Fair tax unless they have an interest in keeping the current system. I've reposted a bunch of the Fair Tax video's and I dare him to try and spam mine!

[denimblueindigo]

I also found out that he's using 3 different screen names. He spams FairTax video's under 3 different names. He's IRS.

[MarkDouglasC]

Can any -- any -- FT idiot tell me what happens when you put a 23% sales tax on new homes? No, you cant. Can you tell me what will happen when renters have to pay 23% sales tax? How about when nursing homes have to charge 23% more? How about when 30K cancer treatments is charged 23% tax?

I can tell you morons what happens. Those people will bitch like crazy -- and get exemptions. And your idiot tax goes to 30-40 or even 50.

[MarkDouglasC]

Sure , the fair tax has some good points, like ending the underground economy. Great! But -- you answer me- what happens if you have a high sales tax on new houses? What happens to the housing market? How do you expect nursing homes to charge a 23% sale tax? Or doctors? Or hospitals? How will the government pay a high sales tax -- without raising the money they need to pay it.

[MarkDouglasC]

Huck is a smooth snake. Yes, our tax system screws workers. But this system is worse. Fairtax meansgovernment would pay the same high sales tax. That means military spending- jets, ammunition - tanks, would immediately cost 23% more. Even new homes and nursing home payments would pay 23% tax. Many things would get exemptions-- or pass along the cost and the 23% would become 40-50%. Wake up.

[denimblueindigo]

You naysayers like to talk about how it won't work, so what's your alternative? I haven't seen you post one thing about how to fix the problem. I smell a rat here. You sort of sound like those Paultards, but you haven't really come out and said it yet. It's your dime dude, tell us what your "expert opinion" is.

[MarkDouglasC]

Hey denim -- Ive told how I would fix it. I would have all income types pay taxes alike -- work, wages, self employed, cap gains, whatever. Just call income, income. And stop this off shore crap. If you did that, you could have a low tax rate, a very simple tax code, and a one page return. I wished the high sales tax would work --but it wont.

[xxbxsullyxx]

i haven't read about the fair tax in depth, but i imagine that it cuts taxes in one way or another. to make up for lost revenue, politicians in the past incurred various fees on their citizens.

If the fair tax does not set up different revenue sources like fees, then how will it bring in as much money as the current tax system?

[MarkDouglasC]

THe problem is, fairtax is like shooting yourself in the jaw for a dental cavity. It would make the dope dealers pay taxes -- but it would wreck the economy. How can the army pay 23% more for tanks? How can nursing home patients pay 23% more? What effect would a 23% sales tax on new homes, do to the housing market? Government would have to raise taxes to pay their tax. New home sales would almost stop. Car sales would be decimated. This isnt just stupid- this is insanity.

[Roxas42]

The government already taxes itself with those embedded taxes everybody keeps talking about. Sure we can argue about where the ledger should lie for Personal Income Tax when the good in question is bought by a private consumer, but not when the government is the buyer. It's all the same to them.

[denimblueindigo]

Mike Huckabee served 2 terms as a republican governor in democratic Arkansas. He also left office with a budget surplus. Somebody liked him! The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette also says that 60% of that democrat state supports Mike Huckabee's campaign. Not too shabby for a republican from a democrat state!

[MarkDouglasC]

Huck raised taxes you nit wit, thats how he got a surplus. Fair tax has EVERYTHING taxed 23% -- so government would pay the same high sales tax. That means military spending- jets, ammunition - tanks, would immediately cost 23% more. Even new home sale and nursing home payments would pay 23% more. Many things would get exemptions-- and the 23% would become 40-50%. Wake up.

[denimblueindigo]

It would be a mistake to take the word of an "armchair economist" when they post their negative comments about the Fair Tax. Those who want to know will go to FairTax dot org and read the facts. Your opinion has been noted. Now go out and play.

[MarkDouglasC]

Armchair this you moron -- read the fairtax book. Thats where I got this you moron. THen figure out what would happen. THere is no question that the fairtax is on new houses, on governemtn spending, on medical cost. THats in the book you moron, though they sorta slip that crap by you. Now, you tell me, what happens if they have a high sales tax on new houses - you tell me.

[denimblueindigo]

OK fuck face. You still haven't said what the alternative is? Or are you just a Paultard?

[MarkDouglasC]

A simple, fair tax plan would be four pages long, and a one page tax return. I would just count income as "income" forget if its wages from laying bricks, or capital gains from a hedge fund shorting stocks on bricks. Or whatever income -- just call it income. Have all income be treated alike. Have a flat tax of anything over 25,000. If you want, another rate over 150,000. The point is, all income types should be treated alike.

[MarkDouglasC]

I give response about alternative, but it posts at top. See up there now. Im not a Paultard - funnyword -- but as insane as that guy is, he at least would reduce spending enough THEN get rid of income tax. Idiot Huck would just change us over to this wack job crap. No other nation on earth taxes new homes, or medical cost, or charges the gov the high sales tax. I wonder why?

[quebec10000]

You have to go read the book otherwise you do not know what you are talkinf about. Thank;s

[MarkDouglasC]

QUEBEC-- I HAVE THE BOOK moron, i read it repeatedly. ITs sorta my hobby. Read it idiot -- it taxes new homes. It taxes gov spending. It taxes nurshing home and medical cost. Think about that you idiot.

[MarkDouglasC]

gubec- I read the book. I have the book. I know what it says. I also know math, you idiot, and economic reality. And I know how stupid people can be. This plan doesnt even slow down at stupid. ITs the dumbest idea Ive ever heard in my life.

[denimblueindigo]

It would be a mistake to take the word of an "armchair economist" when they post their negative comments about the Fair Tax. Those who want to know will go to FairTax dot org and read the facts.

[smerny85]

If you don't support Fair Tax, you probably don't understand it. Go to FairTax . org

[Diskatopia]

Sorry Huckster, just can't support giving Paris Hilton and Bill Gates tax cuts while raising the taxes on working families (those making between around $27,000 and $200,000).

Because it's simple math really-- for this National Sales Tax to be "revenue neutral" the middle classes will have to pay more, since the poor (less than $20,000income or so), the rich (more than $300,000 income), and the corporations would be paying less.

A National Sales Tax is a Very Bad Idea.

[MarkDouglasC]

Yes-- the even more of a problem -- the 23% would have to be 40% or more. Government cant pay taxes on military spending -- they would need more money to pay their tax. You cant expect nursing home patients to pay 23% more -- or back surgery patients. But is the kind of nonsense the "fairtax" would do. All those things would get exemptions - OR - they would pass costs along. The result would be more like 40-50% sales tax, which would have massive problems.

[conuscortes]

Can onyone seriously be suggesting that this idiot should be the next President? Has he never had any education about economics? Clearly not. It scraes the hell out of me that there are ANY voters in the States that would endorse him for their next President. Haven't they seen the damage that electing a moron to the White House (twice) has done to thier country?

[TravisB19]

Amen, go Huckabee

[bgabbs69]

Dont you understand that taxes will never go down unless we stop the spending outside the country. Get a fucking clue dude!

[TravisB19]

I understand that you jerk. Stop foreign aid.

[bgabbs69]

Lol! Hey Mike Is getting audited by the IRS more scary then getting raped and seeing your rapist set free to kill and rape 2 more woman?

Amen, go mike? i dont think so.

[TravisB19]

who do you support

[bgabbs69]

If you havent listen to Ron Paul then i suggest you check him out on youtube. His voting record in congress is impeccable and the amount of knowledge he has on foriegn and monetary policy is far and above any other candidate. He is for the people not big govt and special interests groups. I am not saying you need to vote for him do what ever you want but at least take the time to listen to him.

[TravisB19]

Ron Paul does not take the Islamic terrorism threat seriously, thats why I don't support him.

[bgabbs69]

He takes that threat very seriously thats why he supported going after bin laden. But then the US left it up to pakistan and he "surprisingly" got away. Check out some youtube videos about Ron Paul and the military and I think you will have a change of mind. Also think about the reasoning why they dislike us, reasons that were in the 9/11 commission report which supports what Dr paul has been saying. He believes in securing our borders not Iraqs or any other foreign country.

[ysgeye]

I don't think you understand the meanings of "blow-back," "fighting words," "bullyism," "for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction," "do unto others as you would have them do unto you," (or it's negative: "whatever you wouldn't want someone to do to you, don't do to them"), "provocation," etc.

You cannot provoke others constantly and believe that it will not have consequences.

[rijderunner]

economist dot com "faith hope and populism"

[rijderunner]

we have break down in our journalists. they have all turned into tabliod talkers. they should have hammered the "fair tax" scam with real comparison; so that, normal people like you are not suckered into this scheme. btw the fairtax website is junk.

[rijderunner]

wth is a fair tax? this guy grabbed the ball on some crackpot, poorly researched, scheme to play shell game with taxes. OH this a fair tax!--it is still a tax and it is dumb.

[UncleIrv]

Just a suggestion, but maybe you should understand the issue BEFORE you comment?

It's not just a "shell game"--in fact, it's the END of all tax shell games. The Fair Tax is collected like a sales tax. This is why it promotes investment and savings, while eliminating "loopholes" currently exploited by the wealthy.

[Diskatopia]

Well.. no, it creates huge new gaping loopholes... if Bill Gates buys a castle in Germany, will he have to pay US sales tax on it?

People who are for the crackpot NST and against the true fair tax (Flat Income Tax with only deductions for HOH and family) don't truly understand what taxes are.

Taxes are gauges of how much you have benefitted in a society from HOW those taxes are spent.. thus a flat income tax with HOH/family deduction is the best and fairest gauge.

[Roxas42]

Of course not, because the US government has no jurisdiction to tax a German property. But the real point is that it is no business of anybody else how much money you or I make.

[Molotov723]

do you know anything about the fairtax? if so, please explain.

[rijderunner]

it is a new regressive tax. it is unworkable. it is untested in on macro variables. it is riddled with exploits. it requires an IRS. the WSJ, the economist, an array of economists all know it is pointless. and neil boortz would rather sell books than focus on real issues.

[Molotov723]

boortz doesn't keep a dime of the money brought in by The Fair Tax book

[Andyroo2319]

GO HUCKABEE!!!

[fairtaxhtown]

The FairTax does eliminate the IRS becuase the states are collecting the sales tax. Maybe their internet connetions are regulated but all businesses are no matter how they sell their products to Americans.

Let the internet be free? You're not charging for your products? Why not let them compete fairly?

[pootron]

well said!

[jake1106]

why wont you support deleting the IRS altogether and let the states tax people. The fair tax is unfair to businesses that operate solely on the internet. It's a first step to regulating the internet. The only thing left the citizens have that is not regulated. Let the internet be free!