so much effort put into stupid conspiracy theories instead of criticizing the bush administration based on reality. they opportunistically used 9/11 as their excuse to start wars, but they didn't conspire 9/11 themselves. there's simply no way they could keep the entire operation a secret. it's just too ridiculous to lay it on a vast conspiracy.
I stopped early. If you say you've never found conspiracy theorists who question flight 93 because of the absence of wreckage, then you just disqualified yourself from this argument.
I've gotta get out of here. 9-11 twoofers make me sick. Literally.
you're a dope. molten steel "as if you were in a foundry", reported one fireman. even giuliani and pataki testified to it. the steel did not lose it's strength. that'a pure BS. the jet fuel was a pyrotechnics thrill job, to traumatize, that burned off in 15 min. read NIST and FEMA. you are dumber than a bag of hammers. all that was left were small localized fires. did you listen to the FDNY tapes of the South Tower. of couse you didn't. your just a dumb shit with some weird need for attention.
Most of the fires were in the CORNERS because that's where all of the debris went. That was on fire. You think a big plane will explode and only have jet fuel on fire and not the building? The only firefighters they have so called conspiracy 'evidence' from are the ones who were on the floors below impact.
golly gee. let's see. andy. uh, how does concrete get pulverized in mid air? i dunno wilbur. okay, okay, uh, let's see...andy, can fire melt steel...ya know, like, whatcha call it? molten, that's right...molten steel. like flowin' lava in Hawaii. i dunno Wilbur. go google it, or sumthin. ya know Andy, i heard they found some kinda fancy high tech explosive that wuz still live...i think thay call it nanothermite. they could still explode it years later...and thay did. whattya think a that?
@jerjr49 Ummm wow... The molten came from the plane, aluminum doesn't need a high heat to melt like that. And the steed did not 'melt' it was compromised. Big difference. This in no way debunked him.
@jerjr49 Ummm wow... The molten came from the plane, aluminum doesn't need a high heat to melt like that. And the steed did not 'melt' it was compromised. Big difference. This in no way debunked him.
if you watch more of the things in around you and don't say a thing about and get your own story from all of the news/ Paper and just plian old studying what you see will help you find the truth. Idea= talk= Bull poop.Idea=thought=truth.
how did barry jennings die? why havent we seen the plane hitting the pentagon? why was gwb's location during the 9/11 attacks not considered dangerous? kenneth johannenmen? why did building seven fall straight down? why did the towers fall straight down from impacts at the top. ur handle is very misleading. i would assume someone claiming to support Logic and Truth, would be more inclined to entertain the idea that the 9/11 attacks were suspicious and worthy of questioning.
@Ded0099 there is no confirmation on that. the public has NEVER seen ANY planes hitting the pentagon. u can live with ur eyes shur but dont ask me too. 9/11 was an inside job and there is overwhelming proof to support it. dont be a sheep. bahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
@mickymacky02 Actually, they have. They are very, VERY blurry, but you can tell what it is. By the colors and everything. Not many people film the pentagon. You'd have to admit that no planes hit the WTC and they were all 'staged' you guys are seriously dumbasses. You have no logic whatsoever.
@desertedsoulx wtf are u talking about? ppl dont film the pentagon...the pentagon films the pentagon u dumb fuck. they know when a bird takes a shit on the lawn. and they didnt know this plane was coming? loool. there is something very strange about the pentagon attack. there is def more to the story. who said anything about planes being staged? i sure didnt. planes DID hit the pentagon. ur the one with no logic. u look helplessly at ur government to tell u the truth. i think for myself tyvm.
@desertedsoulx wtf are u talking about? ppl dont film the pentagon...the pentagon films the pentagon u dumb fuck. they know when a bird takes a shit on the lawn. and they didnt know this plane was coming? loool. there is something very strange about the pentagon attack. there is def more to the story. who said anything about planes being staged? i sure didnt. planes DID hit the pentagon. ur the one with no logic. u look helplessly at ur government to tell u the truth. i think for myself tyvm.
planes hit the WTC, i meant to say. and SOMETHING certainly did hit the penatgon. all i know, is the official story is BULLSHIT. i aint buying no more. how can u say i have no logic when ur dumb fucking sheep who believes the government? try thnking for urself.
@mickymacky02 Ummm I do think for myself. I've done a ton of research, and my conclusion is that it was not an inside job. You don't think for yourself, you just believe what conspiracy theorists tell you to. And tell that to the people that were there, the pictures of the wreckage and bodies inside and outside the Pentagon, that it did not happen the way they saw it and that it was some amazing 'illusion' or something. You can tell from the tape, it is a plane.
@desertedsoulx . the Media tells you what to believe and you do what 2 minutes of research and believe them. it took alot to convince me that it was an inside job. do you know why it took alot to convince me that 9/11 was an inside job? because i thought for myself and said it wasn't an inside job and then realized that it was an inside job because there is more evidence supporting it than the stupid Official Report. yes there is more evidence your too ignorant face that fact.
I'm not and expert but the towers probably didn't fall from fire alone, we can't forget that a full sized jet crashed into them going extremely fast, that has to do some damage to structural integrity.
I'm no researcher into the 9/11 tragedy, but I can tell you this: I've heard the theory that no wreckage was found at the Flight 93 crash site MANY times. In fact, for every 10 theories these people throw at me, that's usually one of them.
For "pull it," yes, he did mean pull the teams trying to save the bldg because collapse was iminent.
And what I hear time and again, usually the No.1 or 2 theory is that "fire doesn't melt steel." The fires weakened the steel. Plus, duration is a factor.
@NoGuff pull who? The firefighters and personnel in building 7 were evacuated around noon, over 5 hours before it collapsed..... and how did people come to the conclusion collapse was "iminent" when it was about to be the first time in history that a bulding collapsed due to fire alone? And yes steal was weakened obviously, but are you unaware or just ignoring the MOLTEN pools of steel found at ground zero reported by countless witnesses. Do a little research buddy.
--I'm not an engineer or other such expert, especially one who was on the scene. You'll have to ask them. Its like asking me how to build a car engine from scratch. Well, I know its done, I know it comes from melting & casting steel & aluminum, but you need to ask those who do it to explain how.
"MOLTEN pools"
--Exposure time to high heat also plays a factor. Like a match to your hand.
The wings and stabilizer wouldn't have done much damage at all to the pentagon...they were not as reinforced as the fuselage and were smashed into reinforced concrete.
What happens when an aluminum jet smashes into reinforced concrete:
so according to you we must obvious the fact that the bush and the bin laden families know each other and make bussines for decades, that the usa government was conducting a military exercise using the same stage, that the government ignores the warnings of various foreign inteligence agencies, i just wonder do you americans still believe that the politicians whatever the party they belong , have the power ?
@nyyght7 lol it was proven by scientist that the radical muslims admiting to 9/11 on tape was a complete fake and clips were morphed together and it made it sound like the radical muslims were admiting to it. i say they did the best clip morphing ever i thought it was real at first in tell i really researched and found out they were totally faked.
Even if you believe that men in caves did 9/11, and believe two planes collapsed 3 buildings you cant deny the fact that the Anwar-al-awlaki(#3on the terror list) was in the pentigon 3 months after 9/11. The Patriot Act is against PATRIOTS!!!You cant deny the fact that Main stream government funded media whores say that anyone who talks about any real issue that effects America like The Federal Reserve ,National Sovereignty, the gold standard,tyranny, treason, Ron Paul, Patriots, is a kook
@nnlamb25 Join the revolution. Even if you believe that men in caves did 9/11, and believe two planes collapsed 3 buildings you cant deny the fact that the The Patriot Act is against PATRIOTS!!!You cant deny the fact that Main stream government funded media whores say that anyone who talks about any real issue that effects America like The Federal Reserve ,National Sovereignty, the gold standard,tyranny, treason, Ron Paul, Patriots, is a kook. The truth is that all those issues Are the real
@Ecoscienceczar what revolution? I don't see anything going on. All it is are a bunch of people on the internet on forums and YouTube comments. You think you can take down the government ROFL. If their so high and powerful that they can brainwash and what not, then what can you possibly do? You always talk about how powerful and evil the government is, and that you need to take it down. How can you if your sitting at your computer? everyone else agreeing with you is just sitting on a computr
@lamb 25 The final remaining lie is,We who love freedom and liberty are the minority.We are exposing that fact.We are teaching people that the government is ours and works for us! Critical mass and peaceful protests are exposing Elite, Federal Reserve everything i said before and the media government funded whores. People are waking up. The liars are desperate to keep the masses asleep.We are making a huge difference when the main stream whores actually say were kooks for exposing there fraud.
@nnlamb25 The final remaining lie is,We who love freedom and liberty are the minority.We are exposing that fact.We are teaching people that the government is ours and works for us! Critical mass and peaceful protests are exposing Elite, Federal Reserve everything i said before and the media government funded whores. People are waking up. The liars are desperate to keep the masses asleep.We are making a huge difference when the main stream whores actually say were kooks for exposing there fraud.
the first claim has been made up and down. the second was talked about in great detail, maybe you just chose too ignore it. third claim...firefighters have no say in whether or not a building comes down, but if you listen to fire fighters on that day they specifically use the term "pull" as to indicate that they must get there men out of there. fourth claim, dont say u agree if u actually dont. 5th claim, larry didnt get SHIT from insurance providers and had to give up the lease...so no profit
The thing is that the conspiracy theorists do not have a set of agreed upon bull shit because they all have their own ideas... portable nukes, thermite, holographic projectile missiles, global hawk, etc etc etc. For every debunking video the 'truthers' can come up with an endless number of lies and made up BS.
You won't do it though cause YOU are the sheeple my friend.
Still waiting for you to explain how thermite can cut horizontally through steel. This is how our "discussion" was started and you don't even have the decency to answer my initial question. Tells us a lot about you, well done. Once you have done this, I'll give you what you've asked for. It is only fair and just that you answer my question first, pussy.
Read what I said. Provide the evidence that I initially requested regarding thermite cutting steel horizontally and I'll provide the evidence you've requested. It is only fair. I lied about nothing and I'm STILL waiting, coward.
You said "evidence of thermite used". Used to do what and how? I haven't bluffed anything. Fact remains, I made the first request for evidence and you have yet to supply said evidence. No folding required, I'm still waiting. And yes, I can give you a still frame from a CCTV video from Logan of Atta and will provide it once you support your claim first. You claim was first and thus it follows that you should provide evidence first, again, still waiting......
You've lost before the real debate even began. You still haven't supported your original claim, the claim that started all of this. Well done. As I've said before, provide evidence for your original claim and then we can move on to claims I've made. The ball is still in your court and I'm STILL waiting... tra la la.
hey shite for brains were have i ever claimed that " thermite can thermite can cut horizontally through steel. "
SHOW ME WERE I HAVE TYPED THEM WORDS ( APART FROM JUST NOW )
I find it amusing that yet another brainwashed Ignorant Yank would rather make shite up in order to keep his delusion of a free & demoractic country , buts its not
Your exact words were, "there is how ever evidence of thermite used" (complete with your poor spelling and grammar).
WHAT EVIDENCE AND USED TO DO WHAT? Thermite ONLY cuts straight down, end of story. Support your claim or shut the fuck up. You know you are cornered and have no way out. You, like all 9/11 "truthers" are too ignorant to know just how full of shit you are. Still waiting......
tell me something are the below two statments alike?
" "there is how ever evidence of thermite used" ( WHICH WAS TYPES BY MY SELF ) AND WHICH CAN BE PROVEN BY AT LEAST 2 PIOR REVIEWED ARTICLED PUBLISHED BY A AMERICAN AND DUTCH SCITISITS,
you have been ranting on that i said " thermite can thermite can cut horizontally through steel. "
WHICH I HAVE NEVER SAID!!
so tell me kido why have you clearly felt the need to Lie?
This is the last time I'm asking. You claimed there was evidence for the use of thermite. Please provide said evidence and explain exactly what it was used for. If you fail, yet again, to provide evidence for your claims, I'll safely assume you have no interest in an honest discussion. Still waiting.....
Wow, finally, what took you so long? No, you never claimed to know how thermite could cut horizontally. You did claim that you had evidence it was used. AGAIN, what evidence? What the fuck does "reviewed papers" mean? You mean peer reviewed? Please cite them and the accepted scientific journal they were published in along with any refutations that have been peer reviewed and published. I never claimed to have 'secret footage' of Attah. (cont.)
Still images of him are everywhere. You obviously never cared enough to look and thus don't know this. Yet more evidence of just how willing to be honest and objective about this issue you really are, that is to say not at all. And you didn't respond to my final request for you to support your claims. You've conceded the discussion (your silence also did this a week ago, btw). All further posts from you will be ignored unless they actually contain EVIDENCE!!!!!!
No, you said 2 pior reviewed papers(again, you obviously don't know what you are talking about)
Just to be sure you do, I'll assume you mean peer reviewed papers so please tell us all what a peer reviewed paper is. I await your citation of such papers and the names of the accepted journals they were published in along with any possible peer reviewed and published refutations. I want to be sure you understand this process, I have my doubts.
yes sure i will be happy to waste my time with a person like you,
But let us please clarify, You Now retract what you demanded from me before? ( how termite cuts horizontally ) as i never claimed to possess that info,
AGREE?
do you retract your first demand?
after i show you the Obvious papers by esteemed scientists will you share with the world the never before seen CCTV footage of Mohammed Attah at LOGAN Int Airport on 9/11/2001 ?
Please cite said papers and the scientific journals they were published in. I should probably point out that you are making an argument from authority which is a logical fallacy, just so you know. But I would honestly like to read said papers. Have you decided if it is 2 or 3 yet?
As for the Attah footage, again, you can find stills from said footage all over the place.
Formally published in a peer-reviewed Chemical Physics journal, today:
“Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe” by Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley and Bradley R. Larsen
READ IT RETARD
BRAINWASHED FOOL
YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PROVIDE CCTV OF ATTAH AT LOGAN INT AIRPORT AS IT DONT FUKING EXIST!!
Just as I suspected, you have NOTHING. No peer reviewed, published papers (something you alluded to). You, are a liar and I'm done wasting my time with you. You've lost, you just don't know it yet. You are now on permanent ignore. Get a clue, start living in reality.
“Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe”
by Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley and Bradley R. Larsen
THERE ARE 9 SCIETISTS NAMES ATTACHED TO THE PAPER!
ITS PEER REVIEWED
I SUGGEST YOU GOOGLE EACH NAME TO VERIFY
BUT IM ASSUMING YOUR MORE HAPPY LIVING IN YOUR IGNORANT COMFORT ZONE!
My final communique to you. I'll cite one example but could easily do so with the others but I'm done wasting my time on people that are completely clueless. Steven E. Jones was put on paid leave because he did NOT publish papers in appropriate scientific journals. Bentham Science Publishers being a prime example as it is a publisher of STM (Scholars for Truth Movement) papers. Hardly something objective. You are a fucking imbecile. LEARN HOW TO DO RESEARCH YOU FUCKING GIT!
Even if they did publish is appropriate journals, you are still making an argument from authority (yet another in your long line of logical fallacies). Just because Dr. John Doe the scientist says something, it doesn't mean they are right or that their claims are true. You didn't cite the evidence, of course. Hope you learn to do some proper research, maybe take a class on the subject. You need it. Goodbye.
What's funny is my friend worked at Logan Airport. I live in Boston and ride by there every day on the T. I actually have some of the older security cameras from Logan Airport, my friend could tell us everything about the old security system there, but I'm not sure if he would agree to go on record or anything...
I will get the camera models, he may still have blueprints and wiring diagrams. . . I know for a fact they had working cameras at every terminal, because I asked him.
@Ecoscienceczar Conspiracy theorists are like religious zealots - no evidence or reason - only passion, anecdotal evidence, lies, and a warm fuzzy feeling of possessing special knowledge. Enjoy your delusion and weak threshold for acceptable evidence. Enjoy your feeding from the trough of lies i hope you spend money on the books and DVDs your conspiracy cult leaders put out for you to consume - they gotta make money somehow. Maybe one day you will get learn to reason an assess the world logicaly
Besides all of the evidence, what I find most intriquing has to do actually with WALL STREET and the massive spike in "PUT OPTIONS" on United and American Airlines (betting that the stock prices will fall). Any stock analyst will tell you that the spike in volume just days before Sept 11, 2001 was highly unusual. FOLLOW THE BIG MONEY TRAIL. And, you'll find out who's behind this. (I suspect the entire Federal Government and private bank cartel known as the Federal Reserve).
Everytime you and your kind are at a loss, you start to claim everybody else that don't believe in you bullshit is a Bush surporter, which is absolutly not true. Two prominent examples are Naom Chomsky and Naomi Klein. And if nothing else works in your favor, then simply call it "masonic", so everybody has to realize it's 'evil'.
i take it from your response you have 0 answears to why OBL was blamed 6 mins into attack,.. and 0 answers to why the US gov investigation was so white washed...
okay i can move on:
1. I dont blame people for supporting Bush, I blame the system ...
2. Q. are you defending Masonry & other secret societies??!!!
3. fact. why do u blame OBL for 9/11? FBI dont blame him, so why do you think he did it? ( may be u have been brainwashed by the media ?)
Just don't listen to answer equals not "0 answers".
1. ...I got the strange feeling, I couldn't believe you...
2. Defending? Ther is nothing to defend, they didn't do anything wrong.
3. ...this is long answered, if you don't want to read Mark Roberts account on this, you'll find something on youtube concerning this. You should ask yourself, why did they carry out the plan that perfect that day and then screwing up a simple homepage update?
...your so-called theories are crap, your separate snippet-claims contradict each other and you were unable (this far) to provide a consistant story of what actually happend (in your view). Instead of providing such you and your kind keep on repeating the same bullshit long solved, i.e. your alledgedly molten steelbeams (which were corroded not molten) have been debunked by Ryan Mackey two years ago.
...do you realize, there's a difference between the word consistant and constant. The so-called offical theory is in itself consistant, the events have a logical relationship to each other. And if indeed something has proven wrong they modified to keep the inner logic. Therefor the theory hasn't to be constant, it has to be consistant.
You Truther can't even provide a logic theory of what happened, all you have are claims and snippets.
There are many youtube twoofers who do in fact claim that no wreckage from flight 93 was recovered. CNN FAkes, Killtown (who is an admin at a twoofer forum) and Musicmaker all make this claim
i have plenty to say bout this video. fires fires fires! who cares bout the fires when a fucking plane just flew into the building the plane weakened the structure. I guess everyone forgot the plane but loved the fires to death
lets see when the plane crashed into the building. it is common sense that the structure was weakened and therefore i would think then it would collapse. with the exploding jet fuel and fires. you guys are acting like the fires was the only thing that contributed to it. I am just saying the fires dont have to be hot enough to break an already weakened building.
You are a perfect example of exactly what the persons responsible for the inside job planned on. They figured that we are dumbed down enough to believe anything. Well, since you have not done your own research, let me tell you something. The wtc towers were built in 3sections. Only the section damaged would be destroyed. These towers were built to withstand a 747 because of the Empire state building plane crash. The Empire state building did not fall. Not enough space to explain all. Research!!!
Someone should probably point out that you are making a video about another video that is over a year and a half old and was made primarily in response to videos like In plane Sight, Loose Change, and Zeitgeist. To put it into context just because at this moment in time no one supports pod theory doesnt mean that at one time someone did. The flight wreckage is an example of this.
Is this the best you could come up with? You didnt even do anything here. You created a video that stated what theories he debunked were. You are going to have to try harder than that.
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Truthers are fucking idiots. Retarded monkeys are smarter than Truthers.
12weasel100 11 hours ago
Rkowens4 pawned haaha
veee1985 1 month ago
fail
qqaaaqqq 3 months ago
your a fucking retard.
sgtsnakeeyes11 5 months ago
so much effort put into stupid conspiracy theories instead of criticizing the bush administration based on reality. they opportunistically used 9/11 as their excuse to start wars, but they didn't conspire 9/11 themselves. there's simply no way they could keep the entire operation a secret. it's just too ridiculous to lay it on a vast conspiracy.
ThePatcam 5 months ago
Autoglym high definition wax
BeansOnGhost 5 months ago
I stopped early. If you say you've never found conspiracy theorists who question flight 93 because of the absence of wreckage, then you just disqualified yourself from this argument.
I've gotta get out of here. 9-11 twoofers make me sick. Literally.
Astrobrant2 5 months ago
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megamogx 5 months ago
you're a dope. molten steel "as if you were in a foundry", reported one fireman. even giuliani and pataki testified to it. the steel did not lose it's strength. that'a pure BS. the jet fuel was a pyrotechnics thrill job, to traumatize, that burned off in 15 min. read NIST and FEMA. you are dumber than a bag of hammers. all that was left were small localized fires. did you listen to the FDNY tapes of the South Tower. of couse you didn't. your just a dumb shit with some weird need for attention.
jerjr49 5 months ago
Most of the fires were in the CORNERS because that's where all of the debris went. That was on fire. You think a big plane will explode and only have jet fuel on fire and not the building? The only firefighters they have so called conspiracy 'evidence' from are the ones who were on the floors below impact.
desertedsoulx 5 months ago
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jerjr49 5 months ago
golly gee. let's see. andy. uh, how does concrete get pulverized in mid air? i dunno wilbur. okay, okay, uh, let's see...andy, can fire melt steel...ya know, like, whatcha call it? molten, that's right...molten steel. like flowin' lava in Hawaii. i dunno Wilbur. go google it, or sumthin. ya know Andy, i heard they found some kinda fancy high tech explosive that wuz still live...i think thay call it nanothermite. they could still explode it years later...and thay did. whattya think a that?
jerjr49 7 months ago
@jerjr49 gee wiz, if I may wilbur, the steel never turned into a molten form. it was hot enough to lose half of it's strength.
rpsmith014 5 months ago
@jerjr49 Ummm wow... The molten came from the plane, aluminum doesn't need a high heat to melt like that. And the steed did not 'melt' it was compromised. Big difference. This in no way debunked him.
desertedsoulx 5 months ago
@jerjr49 Ummm wow... The molten came from the plane, aluminum doesn't need a high heat to melt like that. And the steed did not 'melt' it was compromised. Big difference. This in no way debunked him.
desertedsoulx 5 months ago
@christianandfriends people who believe of the illuminati and that the government did this are also brainwashed.
Ded0099 7 months ago
Subscribed, ignore the dislike bar :)
EvilIntentions01 7 months ago
if you watch more of the things in around you and don't say a thing about and get your own story from all of the news/ Paper and just plian old studying what you see will help you find the truth. Idea= talk= Bull poop.Idea=thought=truth.
leonardk3 7 months ago
how did barry jennings die? why havent we seen the plane hitting the pentagon? why was gwb's location during the 9/11 attacks not considered dangerous? kenneth johannenmen? why did building seven fall straight down? why did the towers fall straight down from impacts at the top. ur handle is very misleading. i would assume someone claiming to support Logic and Truth, would be more inclined to entertain the idea that the 9/11 attacks were suspicious and worthy of questioning.
mickymacky02 8 months ago
@mickymacky02 oh my bad. u are using logic. srry i thought u were brainwashed. MY BAD!
mickymacky02 8 months ago
@mickymacky02 leukemia, we did, it was an elementary school in the middle of no where, buildings dont fly over the place when they fall.
Ded0099 7 months ago
@Ded0099 there is no confirmation on that. the public has NEVER seen ANY planes hitting the pentagon. u can live with ur eyes shur but dont ask me too. 9/11 was an inside job and there is overwhelming proof to support it. dont be a sheep. bahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
mickymacky02 7 months ago
@mickymacky02 Actually, they have. They are very, VERY blurry, but you can tell what it is. By the colors and everything. Not many people film the pentagon. You'd have to admit that no planes hit the WTC and they were all 'staged' you guys are seriously dumbasses. You have no logic whatsoever.
desertedsoulx 5 months ago
@desertedsoulx wtf are u talking about? ppl dont film the pentagon...the pentagon films the pentagon u dumb fuck. they know when a bird takes a shit on the lawn. and they didnt know this plane was coming? loool. there is something very strange about the pentagon attack. there is def more to the story. who said anything about planes being staged? i sure didnt. planes DID hit the pentagon. ur the one with no logic. u look helplessly at ur government to tell u the truth. i think for myself tyvm.
mickymacky02 5 months ago
@desertedsoulx wtf are u talking about? ppl dont film the pentagon...the pentagon films the pentagon u dumb fuck. they know when a bird takes a shit on the lawn. and they didnt know this plane was coming? loool. there is something very strange about the pentagon attack. there is def more to the story. who said anything about planes being staged? i sure didnt. planes DID hit the pentagon. ur the one with no logic. u look helplessly at ur government to tell u the truth. i think for myself tyvm.
mickymacky02 5 months ago
planes hit the WTC, i meant to say. and SOMETHING certainly did hit the penatgon. all i know, is the official story is BULLSHIT. i aint buying no more. how can u say i have no logic when ur dumb fucking sheep who believes the government? try thnking for urself.
mickymacky02 5 months ago
@mickymacky02 Ummm I do think for myself. I've done a ton of research, and my conclusion is that it was not an inside job. You don't think for yourself, you just believe what conspiracy theorists tell you to. And tell that to the people that were there, the pictures of the wreckage and bodies inside and outside the Pentagon, that it did not happen the way they saw it and that it was some amazing 'illusion' or something. You can tell from the tape, it is a plane.
desertedsoulx 5 months ago
@desertedsoulx . the Media tells you what to believe and you do what 2 minutes of research and believe them. it took alot to convince me that it was an inside job. do you know why it took alot to convince me that 9/11 was an inside job? because i thought for myself and said it wasn't an inside job and then realized that it was an inside job because there is more evidence supporting it than the stupid Official Report. yes there is more evidence your too ignorant face that fact.
theFunnierWill211187 4 months ago
watch?v=3GHM5f9lVho DEBUNK THIS!
mjwible27 8 months ago
I'm not and expert but the towers probably didn't fall from fire alone, we can't forget that a full sized jet crashed into them going extremely fast, that has to do some damage to structural integrity.
aviatorbeasts 9 months ago
I'm no researcher into the 9/11 tragedy, but I can tell you this: I've heard the theory that no wreckage was found at the Flight 93 crash site MANY times. In fact, for every 10 theories these people throw at me, that's usually one of them.
For "pull it," yes, he did mean pull the teams trying to save the bldg because collapse was iminent.
And what I hear time and again, usually the No.1 or 2 theory is that "fire doesn't melt steel." The fires weakened the steel. Plus, duration is a factor.
NoGuff 10 months ago
@NoGuff pull who? The firefighters and personnel in building 7 were evacuated around noon, over 5 hours before it collapsed..... and how did people come to the conclusion collapse was "iminent" when it was about to be the first time in history that a bulding collapsed due to fire alone? And yes steal was weakened obviously, but are you unaware or just ignoring the MOLTEN pools of steel found at ground zero reported by countless witnesses. Do a little research buddy.
matthockey1630 9 months ago
@matthockey1630
"pull who?"
--The firefighters and others
"how did people come to the conclusion"
--I'm not an engineer or other such expert, especially one who was on the scene. You'll have to ask them. Its like asking me how to build a car engine from scratch. Well, I know its done, I know it comes from melting & casting steel & aluminum, but you need to ask those who do it to explain how.
"MOLTEN pools"
--Exposure time to high heat also plays a factor. Like a match to your hand.
NoGuff 9 months ago
The wings and stabilizer wouldn't have done much damage at all to the pentagon...they were not as reinforced as the fuselage and were smashed into reinforced concrete.
What happens when an aluminum jet smashes into reinforced concrete:
youtube.com/watch?v=--_RGM4Abv8
Oz1976 10 months ago
Are you one of those 9/11 truther puppets, or are you on the side of 99% of Americans?
MIKON8ERISBACK 11 months ago
How'd the molten steel get there?
My guess would be the friction of everything as the towers fell.
theddrmaster 11 months ago
so according to you we must obvious the fact that the bush and the bin laden families know each other and make bussines for decades, that the usa government was conducting a military exercise using the same stage, that the government ignores the warnings of various foreign inteligence agencies, i just wonder do you americans still believe that the politicians whatever the party they belong , have the power ?
alex69elijah9yaki 1 year ago
To TruthLogic:
are you seriously suggesting spending MORE $ on investigations?!
the radical muslims have even claimed responsibility!
wtf are you looking for? how much more evidence do you need?
nyyght7 1 year ago
@nyyght7 lol it was proven by scientist that the radical muslims admiting to 9/11 on tape was a complete fake and clips were morphed together and it made it sound like the radical muslims were admiting to it. i say they did the best clip morphing ever i thought it was real at first in tell i really researched and found out they were totally faked.
theFunnierWill211187 4 months ago
Even if you believe that men in caves did 9/11, and believe two planes collapsed 3 buildings you cant deny the fact that the Anwar-al-awlaki(#3on the terror list) was in the pentigon 3 months after 9/11. The Patriot Act is against PATRIOTS!!!You cant deny the fact that Main stream government funded media whores say that anyone who talks about any real issue that effects America like The Federal Reserve ,National Sovereignty, the gold standard,tyranny, treason, Ron Paul, Patriots, is a kook
Ecoscienceczar 1 year ago
Ok, let's pretend your right. 9/11 was an inside job. Government did it yadda yadda yadda.... Now what? What are you going to do about it?
Stop the madness!
nnlamb25 1 year ago
@nnlamb25 Join the revolution. Even if you believe that men in caves did 9/11, and believe two planes collapsed 3 buildings you cant deny the fact that the The Patriot Act is against PATRIOTS!!!You cant deny the fact that Main stream government funded media whores say that anyone who talks about any real issue that effects America like The Federal Reserve ,National Sovereignty, the gold standard,tyranny, treason, Ron Paul, Patriots, is a kook. The truth is that all those issues Are the real
Ecoscienceczar 1 year ago
@Ecoscienceczar what revolution? I don't see anything going on. All it is are a bunch of people on the internet on forums and YouTube comments. You think you can take down the government ROFL. If their so high and powerful that they can brainwash and what not, then what can you possibly do? You always talk about how powerful and evil the government is, and that you need to take it down. How can you if your sitting at your computer? everyone else agreeing with you is just sitting on a computr
nnlamb25 1 year ago
@lamb 25 The final remaining lie is,We who love freedom and liberty are the minority.We are exposing that fact.We are teaching people that the government is ours and works for us! Critical mass and peaceful protests are exposing Elite, Federal Reserve everything i said before and the media government funded whores. People are waking up. The liars are desperate to keep the masses asleep.We are making a huge difference when the main stream whores actually say were kooks for exposing there fraud.
Ecoscienceczar 1 year ago
@nnlamb25 The final remaining lie is,We who love freedom and liberty are the minority.We are exposing that fact.We are teaching people that the government is ours and works for us! Critical mass and peaceful protests are exposing Elite, Federal Reserve everything i said before and the media government funded whores. People are waking up. The liars are desperate to keep the masses asleep.We are making a huge difference when the main stream whores actually say were kooks for exposing there fraud.
Ecoscienceczar 1 year ago
I think it's funny how you try to prove the fact that they aren't the top 7 theories other then try to debunk his debunk.
nnlamb25 1 year ago
@nnlamb25 i still find it funny how a vast cross section of the American Public still cant utilise the use of their own mind,
TruthLogic 1 year ago 6
@TruthLogic
No, what's funny is that you turds think believing 9/11 conspiracy bullshit IS utilizing the use of your own mind!
DTD110865 11 months ago
@TruthLogic I believe that is called imagination, and you truthers sure got a WILD imagination
LeeroyZombie 11 months ago
@nnlamb25 you fool
qqaaaqqq 3 months ago
RKowens = Government Stooge
BuildingNumber7 1 year ago
this video is rubbish. Debunk Debunk double fail
chillcrazyman 1 year ago
way to flip it ass up.
lawharrison 1 year ago
the first claim has been made up and down. the second was talked about in great detail, maybe you just chose too ignore it. third claim...firefighters have no say in whether or not a building comes down, but if you listen to fire fighters on that day they specifically use the term "pull" as to indicate that they must get there men out of there. fourth claim, dont say u agree if u actually dont. 5th claim, larry didnt get SHIT from insurance providers and had to give up the lease...so no profit
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
#2- THE WORLD TRADE CENTER DID NOT HAVE CEMENT PILLARS! THAT IS WHY IT COLLAPSED BUT THE WINSOR BUILDING CORE DID NOT.
danmanlott 1 year ago
Quick comment:
The core structure of the Windsor building didn't collapse because the core was made of concrete, not steel, Like the Twin Towers.
Jammer8x8 1 year ago
@Jammer8x8
and windsor wasn't hit.
thedayitriedtodie 1 year ago
impressed with yur response well thought out
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
The thing is that the conspiracy theorists do not have a set of agreed upon bull shit because they all have their own ideas... portable nukes, thermite, holographic projectile missiles, global hawk, etc etc etc. For every debunking video the 'truthers' can come up with an endless number of lies and made up BS.
Chibling 2 years ago
Chibling
I have never been presented with evidence to suggest Portable nukes etc,,,
there is how ever evidence of Thermite used
Hard Evidence consists of thermite being present in several samples of wtc dust,
TruthLogic 2 years ago
@TruthLogic
Please show me how thermite can cut horizontally through steel. I'm waiting....
SanRafaelSwell 1 year ago
@SanRafaelSwell
why dont you TRY and show me one single shread of Evidance that Mohammed Attah was EVEN at Logan International AIrport on 9/11!!
brainwashed sheep!!!
TruthLogic 1 year ago
@TruthLogic
Do you want the security video footage of him at the airport or would the passanger manifest with his name on it suffice?
SanRafaelSwell 1 year ago
@SanRafaelSwell
if you can show me one single image of him at "LOGAN" INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT ON 09/11/2001
I WILL DELETE MY YOUTUBE ACCOUNT?
DEAL OR NO DEAL?
( if you cant provide , your a NOB )
TruthLogic 1 year ago
@TruthLogic
Deal!!!! This will be a test of your honesty.
You won't do it though cause YOU are the sheeple my friend.
Still waiting for you to explain how thermite can cut horizontally through steel. This is how our "discussion" was started and you don't even have the decency to answer my initial question. Tells us a lot about you, well done. Once you have done this, I'll give you what you've asked for. It is only fair and just that you answer my question first, pussy.
SanRafaelSwell 1 year ago
@SanRafaelSwell
lol,, what you changed your mind now?
a moment ago you wrote " Do you want the security video footage of him at the airport"
WHY CANT YOU BACK UP WHAT YOU JUST SAID?
IVE TOLD U I WILL DELETE MY YOUTUBE ACCOUNT IF YOU CAN PUT UP ..
BUT I GUESS YOUR ANOTHER FEEKIN LIAR!
TruthLogic 1 year ago
@TruthLogic
Read what I said. Provide the evidence that I initially requested regarding thermite cutting steel horizontally and I'll provide the evidence you've requested. It is only fair. I lied about nothing and I'm STILL waiting, coward.
SanRafaelSwell 1 year ago
@SanRafaelSwell
here is another deal for your backwards thinking mind,
if you can show me anywear were i claimed i had evidance that thermite could steel horizontally I WILL DELETE MY ACCOUNT
HOWEVER YOU DID CLAIM YOU HAVE CCTV IMAGES OF ATTAH WHICH I CALLED YOUR BLUFF
YOU FOLD COWARD
I CALLED UR BLUFFF!!
you dont know shite!
TruthLogic 1 year ago
@TruthLogic
You said "evidence of thermite used". Used to do what and how? I haven't bluffed anything. Fact remains, I made the first request for evidence and you have yet to supply said evidence. No folding required, I'm still waiting. And yes, I can give you a still frame from a CCTV video from Logan of Atta and will provide it once you support your claim first. You claim was first and thus it follows that you should provide evidence first, again, still waiting......
SanRafaelSwell 1 year ago
@SanRafaelSwell
COME ON KIDO
I WAITING FOR THE STILL ONE FRAME OF ATTAH AT LOGAN AIRPORT
DONT U WHANT ME TO CLOSE DOWN MY ACCOUNT?
TruthLogic 1 year ago
@TruthLogic
You've lost before the real debate even began. You still haven't supported your original claim, the claim that started all of this. Well done. As I've said before, provide evidence for your original claim and then we can move on to claims I've made. The ball is still in your court and I'm STILL waiting... tra la la.
SanRafaelSwell 1 year ago
@SanRafaelSwell
hey shite for brains were have i ever claimed that " thermite can thermite can cut horizontally through steel. "
SHOW ME WERE I HAVE TYPED THEM WORDS ( APART FROM JUST NOW )
I find it amusing that yet another brainwashed Ignorant Yank would rather make shite up in order to keep his delusion of a free & demoractic country , buts its not
your leards whroship satan and tell u lies!
TruthLogic 1 year ago
@TruthLogic
Your exact words were, "there is how ever evidence of thermite used" (complete with your poor spelling and grammar).
WHAT EVIDENCE AND USED TO DO WHAT? Thermite ONLY cuts straight down, end of story. Support your claim or shut the fuck up. You know you are cornered and have no way out. You, like all 9/11 "truthers" are too ignorant to know just how full of shit you are. Still waiting......
SanRafaelSwell 1 year ago
@SanRafaelSwell
tell me something are the below two statments alike?
" "there is how ever evidence of thermite used" ( WHICH WAS TYPES BY MY SELF ) AND WHICH CAN BE PROVEN BY AT LEAST 2 PIOR REVIEWED ARTICLED PUBLISHED BY A AMERICAN AND DUTCH SCITISITS,
you have been ranting on that i said " thermite can thermite can cut horizontally through steel. "
WHICH I HAVE NEVER SAID!!
so tell me kido why have you clearly felt the need to Lie?
TruthLogic 1 year ago
@TruthLogic
This is the last time I'm asking. You claimed there was evidence for the use of thermite. Please provide said evidence and explain exactly what it was used for. If you fail, yet again, to provide evidence for your claims, I'll safely assume you have no interest in an honest discussion. Still waiting.....
SanRafaelSwell 1 year ago
@TruthLogic
Nothing from you in a week. I'll assume (safely) that you've conceded the point.
SanRafaelSwell 1 year ago
@SanRafaelSwell
from the thread we can see i have never claimed to know HOW thiermite can cut steel horizontaly,,, ( YES OR NO? )
I have only claimed that upto 3 Pior reviewed papers claim that Thermite was present in the dust, ( YES OR NO )
you however did claim you had secret footage of Attah at Logan Int airport
BUT WE BOTH KNOW YOU HAVE NOT GOT ANY CCTV FOOTAGE AS NONE EXISTS
AND IF IT DID EXISTS IM SURE SOME DEAD BEAT LIKE U WUD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO IT!!
sily, dont waste my time boy
TruthLogic 1 year ago
@TruthLogic
Wow, finally, what took you so long? No, you never claimed to know how thermite could cut horizontally. You did claim that you had evidence it was used. AGAIN, what evidence? What the fuck does "reviewed papers" mean? You mean peer reviewed? Please cite them and the accepted scientific journal they were published in along with any refutations that have been peer reviewed and published. I never claimed to have 'secret footage' of Attah. (cont.)
SanRafaelSwell 1 year ago
@TruthLogic
Still images of him are everywhere. You obviously never cared enough to look and thus don't know this. Yet more evidence of just how willing to be honest and objective about this issue you really are, that is to say not at all. And you didn't respond to my final request for you to support your claims. You've conceded the discussion (your silence also did this a week ago, btw). All further posts from you will be ignored unless they actually contain EVIDENCE!!!!!!
SanRafaelSwell 1 year ago
@SanRafaelSwell
"Still images of him are everywhere" the population of the planet have only been given one CCTV image of attah at Portland int airport
im asking for Logan Int Airport as THATS WERE HE HIJACKED THE PLANES..
DO YOU HAVE CCTV OF HIM OR HIS PALS AT PORTLAND AIRPORT?
TruthLogic 1 year ago
@TruthLogic
Oh yeah, your second yes or no question.
No, you said 2 pior reviewed papers(again, you obviously don't know what you are talking about)
Just to be sure you do, I'll assume you mean peer reviewed papers so please tell us all what a peer reviewed paper is. I await your citation of such papers and the names of the accepted journals they were published in along with any possible peer reviewed and published refutations. I want to be sure you understand this process, I have my doubts.
SanRafaelSwell 1 year ago
@SanRafaelSwell
yes sure i will be happy to waste my time with a person like you,
But let us please clarify, You Now retract what you demanded from me before? ( how termite cuts horizontally ) as i never claimed to possess that info,
AGREE?
do you retract your first demand?
after i show you the Obvious papers by esteemed scientists will you share with the world the never before seen CCTV footage of Mohammed Attah at LOGAN Int Airport on 9/11/2001 ?
TruthLogic 1 year ago
@TruthLogic
Agreed.
Please cite said papers and the scientific journals they were published in. I should probably point out that you are making an argument from authority which is a logical fallacy, just so you know. But I would honestly like to read said papers. Have you decided if it is 2 or 3 yet?
As for the Attah footage, again, you can find stills from said footage all over the place.
SanRafaelSwell 1 year ago
@SanRafaelSwell
Formally published in a peer-reviewed Chemical Physics journal, today:
“Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe” by Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley and Bradley R. Larsen
READ IT RETARD
BRAINWASHED FOOL
YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PROVIDE CCTV OF ATTAH AT LOGAN INT AIRPORT AS IT DONT FUKING EXIST!!
TruthLogic 1 year ago
@SanRafaelSwell
READ THE ENTIRE PAPER AT
W W W DOT bentham DOT org/open/tocpj/openaccess2.htm
TruthLogic 1 year ago
@TruthLogic
Just as I suspected, you have NOTHING. No peer reviewed, published papers (something you alluded to). You, are a liar and I'm done wasting my time with you. You've lost, you just don't know it yet. You are now on permanent ignore. Get a clue, start living in reality.
SanRafaelSwell 1 year ago
@SanRafaelSwell lol
bloody deluded idiot
“Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe”
by Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley and Bradley R. Larsen
THERE ARE 9 SCIETISTS NAMES ATTACHED TO THE PAPER!
ITS PEER REVIEWED
I SUGGEST YOU GOOGLE EACH NAME TO VERIFY
BUT IM ASSUMING YOUR MORE HAPPY LIVING IN YOUR IGNORANT COMFORT ZONE!
LOL
TruthLogic 1 year ago
@TruthLogic
My final communique to you. I'll cite one example but could easily do so with the others but I'm done wasting my time on people that are completely clueless. Steven E. Jones was put on paid leave because he did NOT publish papers in appropriate scientific journals. Bentham Science Publishers being a prime example as it is a publisher of STM (Scholars for Truth Movement) papers. Hardly something objective. You are a fucking imbecile. LEARN HOW TO DO RESEARCH YOU FUCKING GIT!
SanRafaelSwell 1 year ago
@TruthLogic
Even if they did publish is appropriate journals, you are still making an argument from authority (yet another in your long line of logical fallacies). Just because Dr. John Doe the scientist says something, it doesn't mean they are right or that their claims are true. You didn't cite the evidence, of course. Hope you learn to do some proper research, maybe take a class on the subject. You need it. Goodbye.
SanRafaelSwell 1 year ago
@SanRafaelSwell
u asked for pior reviewed evidance
i provided
but lets say for arguments sake the 9 scietists who have addedd thier names to the paper are all fuking crazy
LETS NO ASK YOU TO PROVIDE SOMETHING WHICH U CLAIMED TO POSSESS
1 SINGLE CCTV IMAGE / VID OF MOHAMMED ATTAH AT LOGAN INT AIRPORT ON 9/11/2001
tell u what if you can provide i will delete my channel
TruthLogic 1 year ago
@TruthLogic,
What's funny is my friend worked at Logan Airport. I live in Boston and ride by there every day on the T. I actually have some of the older security cameras from Logan Airport, my friend could tell us everything about the old security system there, but I'm not sure if he would agree to go on record or anything...
I will get the camera models, he may still have blueprints and wiring diagrams. . . I know for a fact they had working cameras at every terminal, because I asked him.
WarCrime911 1 year ago
@Chibling Everything you mentioned was cyop government provocateur puting out BS. RKOWENS is the same.
Ecoscienceczar 1 year ago
@Ecoscienceczar Conspiracy theorists are like religious zealots - no evidence or reason - only passion, anecdotal evidence, lies, and a warm fuzzy feeling of possessing special knowledge. Enjoy your delusion and weak threshold for acceptable evidence. Enjoy your feeding from the trough of lies i hope you spend money on the books and DVDs your conspiracy cult leaders put out for you to consume - they gotta make money somehow. Maybe one day you will get learn to reason an assess the world logicaly
Chibling 1 year ago
@Chibling ...dude awesome comment!
CosmicPassion 1 year ago
Rkowens is a fake..
he was owned by Jason bermas on the street in Ny city, watch the vid.. he is a nobody little pussy..
Forget him, he is irrelevent ...
giantshadows 2 years ago
Great video. Completely fair and balanced.
citizenfor911truth1 2 years ago
JUST OWNED!
PESHOPIKATA 2 years ago
great video
troyboy1649 2 years ago
good video. so what was the reason for the bombing of the world trade centers? I've already heard secret society, a reason to go to war with Iraq.
ninhbac04 2 years ago
just like when Hitler burned down his own parliament , George Bush did the same in order to take away liberties and invaded sovereign nations,....
TruthLogic 2 years ago
Besides all of the evidence, what I find most intriquing has to do actually with WALL STREET and the massive spike in "PUT OPTIONS" on United and American Airlines (betting that the stock prices will fall). Any stock analyst will tell you that the spike in volume just days before Sept 11, 2001 was highly unusual. FOLLOW THE BIG MONEY TRAIL. And, you'll find out who's behind this. (I suspect the entire Federal Government and private bank cartel known as the Federal Reserve).
pmcerroni 2 years ago
Everytime you and your kind are at a loss, you start to claim everybody else that don't believe in you bullshit is a Bush surporter, which is absolutly not true. Two prominent examples are Naom Chomsky and Naomi Klein. And if nothing else works in your favor, then simply call it "masonic", so everybody has to realize it's 'evil'.
Three funny facts:
1. You proof, you didn't know the difference.
2. 0 evidence? 1993? USS Cole? Ambassies?
3. My "[bullshit]" government? Nope!
Get a life!
Hochdorff 2 years ago
Hochdorff
i take it from your response you have 0 answears to why OBL was blamed 6 mins into attack,.. and 0 answers to why the US gov investigation was so white washed...
okay i can move on:
1. I dont blame people for supporting Bush, I blame the system ...
2. Q. are you defending Masonry & other secret societies??!!!
3. fact. why do u blame OBL for 9/11? FBI dont blame him, so why do you think he did it? ( may be u have been brainwashed by the media ?)
TruthLogic 2 years ago
Just don't listen to answer equals not "0 answers".
1. ...I got the strange feeling, I couldn't believe you...
2. Defending? Ther is nothing to defend, they didn't do anything wrong.
3. ...this is long answered, if you don't want to read Mark Roberts account on this, you'll find something on youtube concerning this. You should ask yourself, why did they carry out the plan that perfect that day and then screwing up a simple homepage update?
Hochdorff 2 years ago
Hochdorff
2."they didn't do anything wrong." so let me get this stright...
ITS FINE WITH YOU: that our leaders ingage in secret activites?
u still stand by your comment?
ITS FINE WITH YOU: that our leader practice "mock" child sacrfices?
ITS FINE WITH YOU: that your leaders calim to speak to God, and then whorship Giant Owls?
TruthLogic 2 years ago
Hochdorff
2."they didn't do anything wrong." so let me get this stright...
ITS FINE WITH YOU: that our leaders ingage in secret activites?
u still stand by your comment?
ITS FINE WITH YOU: that our leader practice "mock" child sacrfices?
ITS FINE WITH YOU: that your leaders calim to speak to God, and then whorship Giant Owls?
TruthLogic 2 years ago
...your so-called theories are crap, your separate snippet-claims contradict each other and you were unable (this far) to provide a consistant story of what actually happend (in your view). Instead of providing such you and your kind keep on repeating the same bullshit long solved, i.e. your alledgedly molten steelbeams (which were corroded not molten) have been debunked by Ryan Mackey two years ago.
Your 9/11-truth is nothing else but a lie!
Hochdorff 2 years ago
Hochdorff
" you were unable (this far) to provide a consistant story of what actually happend"
Exuse me do you think the Offical story has remained constant??!!! NO. IT HAS BEEN CHANGED MANY MANY TIME AND THERE ARE STILL INACCURCIES IN IT...
TruthLogic 2 years ago
...do you realize, there's a difference between the word consistant and constant. The so-called offical theory is in itself consistant, the events have a logical relationship to each other. And if indeed something has proven wrong they modified to keep the inner logic. Therefor the theory hasn't to be constant, it has to be consistant.
You Truther can't even provide a logic theory of what happened, all you have are claims and snippets.
Hochdorff 2 years ago
yes i know the difference , here is a Quick reminder..
CONSTATNLY: since 6 mins after secound plane hit the tower ,Your masonic goverment has been screaming Bin Laden ( Despite 0 evidance )
CONSISTANLY: Your Prophet G.Bush & pals have changed thier version of the story at least half a dozen times... Including the NIST reports etc...
TruthLogic 2 years ago
There are many youtube twoofers who do in fact claim that no wreckage from flight 93 was recovered. CNN FAkes, Killtown (who is an admin at a twoofer forum) and Musicmaker all make this claim
Denierbud11 2 years ago
Yup, my comment was removed.
Why TruthLogic, why are you such a coward? Seriously, only cowards remove comments from their videos and channel no matter how much they insult you!
You're just a shill wannabe twoofer fuckwit.
MrRandomGuy86 2 years ago
i have plenty to say bout this video. fires fires fires! who cares bout the fires when a fucking plane just flew into the building the plane weakened the structure. I guess everyone forgot the plane but loved the fires to death
chevytrucker1234 2 years ago
why do you care so much for the PLANES?
even the Goverment admited the PLANES DID NOT BRING DOWN THE STRUCTURE...
What has influenced your Brain to think that way?
TruthLogic 2 years ago
lets see when the plane crashed into the building. it is common sense that the structure was weakened and therefore i would think then it would collapse. with the exploding jet fuel and fires. you guys are acting like the fires was the only thing that contributed to it. I am just saying the fires dont have to be hot enough to break an already weakened building.
chevytrucker1234 2 years ago
chevytrucker1234
I did ask u why u think or what has made u think the Planes had anything to do with the collapse??!!
but we can move u if u like:
1. the fires were never has hot as u have been made to think ( proff can be provided )
2. fires would not effect the other 90+ solid steel & conrete floors ( which put up 0 resistance to the fall )
TruthLogic 2 years ago
I can not comprehend why so many people do not understand this obvious inside job. Mind control must really work...:-(
kidjr27 2 years ago
You are a perfect example of exactly what the persons responsible for the inside job planned on. They figured that we are dumbed down enough to believe anything. Well, since you have not done your own research, let me tell you something. The wtc towers were built in 3sections. Only the section damaged would be destroyed. These towers were built to withstand a 747 because of the Empire state building plane crash. The Empire state building did not fall. Not enough space to explain all. Research!!!
kidjr27 2 years ago
Someone should probably point out that you are making a video about another video that is over a year and a half old and was made primarily in response to videos like In plane Sight, Loose Change, and Zeitgeist. To put it into context just because at this moment in time no one supports pod theory doesnt mean that at one time someone did. The flight wreckage is an example of this.
zeoevil 2 years ago
The core of the towers did stand for a few seconds before collapsing after the out walls fell.
redlion7277 2 years ago
the fact that the core fell also is proof some other energy source was used to bring the towers down
the fact that the towers fell in 9 to 11 seconds is proof that lower floors put up no resistance to the collapse
TruthLogic 2 years ago
fact: collapse could not have Gained Momentum if the lower floors were to put up any resistance
fact The Onset of collapse defies the Law of " Angular Momentum"
fact: No transfer of momentum sideways possible with Only gravity .
fact.Momentum of "pile driver" could not be maintained if material was being ejected side ways
fact, Object 5times smaller in mass will not go through a object 5 time larger.( gravity )
Fact 600,000lb steel beams can not be moved 400 feet side ways by Gravity alone
TruthLogic 2 years ago
Is this the best you could come up with? You didnt even do anything here. You created a video that stated what theories he debunked were. You are going to have to try harder than that.
Reichsleiter45 2 years ago
i didnt create the vid,, but i have debunked around 2 of rkowens vids so far...
TruthLogic 2 years ago