@bowsersbaby: I completely agree with you! Even though todays games are visual powerhouses, the scores to these games are nowhere near as cool as they were before. I still remember the rush I felt fighting the Dark Lich and this song going in the background gave me a sense of haste. Better finish em quick or im gone!! LOL! Memories...
Thats what its made to resemble. Theres also a song called Kecak from IIDX thats fairly similar, and worth listening to if you like that kind of thing.
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Every Monster in this masterpiece was looking kinda childish and then Tantalus appeared. Now EVERY time i hear this song cold sweat goes down my Back...
The kid in elementary school who put me on to all the neon genesis and final fantasy resident evil chrono trigger ish used to play this, anyone think its worth buying an snes to play?
@radujko It can be, if you're a collector. I'd rather just download an emulator and the ROM if I were you. Note that after playing the sequel, Seiken Densetsu 3, you're never going to want to have to deal with waiting for your sword to reach 100% power or having to manually charge techs ever again. It makes playing SOM really annoying at times. SD3 is flawless but it totally ruined me on playing this game.
@AirRaj Yeah this is practically Kecak with Balinese gongs. I read somewhere that Hiroki Kikuta was influenced by travels he made around Indonesia before making the music for this game. You can really tell the "Ceremony" music in those ruins where you fight the walls with eyes and the moonwalking zombies was heavily modeled after traditional Balinese music.
Ein besseres Lied hätten die garnicht nehmen können, passt perfekt zu das Bild von Tantalus. Bei diesem Lied musste ich auch die Lautsprecher auf Laut stellen, damit wurde der Kampf noch besser. Secret of Mana ist einfach Super. Kaum welche Spiele von Heute kommen an das Game ran. Die Japaner könnens einfach - Games entwickeln. Naja, übertreiben will ichs nun nicht, aber dieses Game zeigt das manche in Japan in der Spielschmiede was drauf haben.
i really like the boss battle music used for most of the bosses in the game. But this song does fit the enemy you are against in this particular battle.
I remember when I first hear this song when I got to this boss and thinking: "oh man, this one's gonna be a motherf*cker..." And until I read a walkthrough, I was right!
I love how they remixed the southern ruins song into this one
Me and my brother used to loop this game so many times, and we'd pause the game during the boss just to hear this awesome music before pummeling Dylucks ass with Lumina beams.
ugh, even as a grown man this still creeps me the fuck out. i imagine a horde of rotting skeletons trying to break in, then chasing me screaming down the street 8|
I was mad that I never got last orb for some of the weapons, I never got the swords, the gloves, the boomerang, and i think a couple more. I just kept playing and they never popped up.
i always think about the end fly (the manga) when ban appears!!!!!ca me fait pensez au manga fly a la fin quand myst prend le corps a ban LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
I will never forget it! My best friend and me beat this dude on Halloween. We were very young. So it was fucking awesome for us.This music made us really nervous xD
Epic music! my favorite song from the bosses in this game :D <3
I'd did beat the crap out of this guy w/o charged attacks :)) (i did have all though, lvl 99 - all armor, max spellz, everything :D - many hours of playing)
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SNES era struck the perfect balance of technology and gameplay. Prior to 16-bit, graphics were ugly and music was bloopy. After 16-bit, gameplay started dumbing down in favor of fancy polygons. SNES graphics were beautiful, the sound was rich, and the gameplay was actually fun.
chrono trigger is good but not as hard as Secret of mana. the bosses may not do chain cast but they don't need to. and the monsters can easly kill you if you don't have good armor on. the dark lich is hard because he got some nasty spells and he sometimes makes his hands come out of the floor and attack you. secret of mana is better. the 3rd boss in secret of mana was really hard. spike tiger that would engulf you in fire, chew on you, crush you, and lower your attack.
best song in the game.
maricishtar666 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
this song appeals to my metal taste so much xD
BLASTERbad 1 month ago
@bowsersbaby: I completely agree with you! Even though todays games are visual powerhouses, the scores to these games are nowhere near as cool as they were before. I still remember the rush I felt fighting the Dark Lich and this song going in the background gave me a sense of haste. Better finish em quick or im gone!! LOL! Memories...
KingPapi316 1 month ago
I miss the SNES days. These games were so magical. You don't hear music like this anymore
bowsersbaby 1 month ago
My left ear enjoyed this!
FelixLikettagh 2 months ago
Trippy!
safetyboots 3 months ago
this boss was simple to beat with 'light' magic
ThePuppetMaster69 3 months ago
this is sounds like kecak dance from Bali,Indonesia.
BimoRahmantyo 4 months ago
@BimoRahmantyo
Thats what its made to resemble. Theres also a song called Kecak from IIDX thats fairly similar, and worth listening to if you like that kind of thing.
calisurfer788 1 month ago
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ORTmusic 4 months ago
SoM 5/5
SD3 5/5
:P
I want to go back in time
WornNow 5 months ago
I feel moved to post; great song, great game, great memories.
trenthouse4life 5 months ago
RAVE PARTAAAAAAY!
eeektavius 5 months ago
The first time i played this far i got scared.
Every Monster in this masterpiece was looking kinda childish and then Tantalus appeared. Now EVERY time i hear this song cold sweat goes down my Back...
Sorry for the bad english^^ (if it´s Bad at all)
satanrulez666 6 months ago
The kid in elementary school who put me on to all the neon genesis and final fantasy resident evil chrono trigger ish used to play this, anyone think its worth buying an snes to play?
radujko 7 months ago
@radujko It can be, if you're a collector. I'd rather just download an emulator and the ROM if I were you. Note that after playing the sequel, Seiken Densetsu 3, you're never going to want to have to deal with waiting for your sword to reach 100% power or having to manually charge techs ever again. It makes playing SOM really annoying at times. SD3 is flawless but it totally ruined me on playing this game.
zsybrant 5 months ago
@ 0:54 Epicness ensues...
Shadow2ggah 7 months ago
this sounds like it's been inspired by kecak. like exactly....
AirRaj 8 months ago
@AirRaj Yeah this is practically Kecak with Balinese gongs. I read somewhere that Hiroki Kikuta was influenced by travels he made around Indonesia before making the music for this game. You can really tell the "Ceremony" music in those ruins where you fight the walls with eyes and the moonwalking zombies was heavily modeled after traditional Balinese music.
majicodemejico 8 months ago
@majicodemejico ahh now it makes more sense. thanks for elaborating!
AirRaj 8 months ago
@majicodemejico the song 'The boy aims for wild fields' any idea what might have influenced Hiroki Kikuta on that one?
mrnargileh 7 months ago
@AirRaj well spotted! didn't realise till I read your post
mrnargileh 7 months ago
Epic and creepy.
kainemaxwell 8 months ago
this is like...old school dubstep. best game ever made.
cosmaaaaa 8 months ago 2
It's like if Trent Reznor did a song for SoM....
ZDST 8 months ago 5
I am almost at this guy, I am about to face it soon! oh and this track....."It really kicks the Llamas ass" !
Blues2Dark 8 months ago
this song is playing when i fuck
sunzsu 9 months ago
THIS IS AWESOME i want here it the complete day from morning into the night
taisuke0096 10 months ago
sounds like the guy who made this just listened to the akira soundtrack
moralreef 11 months ago
Ein besseres Lied hätten die garnicht nehmen können, passt perfekt zu das Bild von Tantalus. Bei diesem Lied musste ich auch die Lautsprecher auf Laut stellen, damit wurde der Kampf noch besser. Secret of Mana ist einfach Super. Kaum welche Spiele von Heute kommen an das Game ran. Die Japaner könnens einfach - Games entwickeln. Naja, übertreiben will ichs nun nicht, aber dieses Game zeigt das manche in Japan in der Spielschmiede was drauf haben.
531M4N35CH 11 months ago
Fuck yeah!
earthwolf82 11 months ago
12 people were defeated by the Dark Lich!
Mortalexis 11 months ago 3
That beat is in Snoop Dog's song Sweat.
fmthebaron 11 months ago
12 dislikers who fell in love with Dyluck!
fehler91 1 year ago
the composer was in drugs xDD this theme is just nuts!!!!
SuperBrictson 1 year ago
Awesome! I love the scariness of this. 10/10!
mopbrothers 1 year ago
i really like the boss battle music used for most of the bosses in the game. But this song does fit the enemy you are against in this particular battle.
tom5coat 1 year ago
Back in the days where video game companies didn't mind intimidating it's audiences. And the games were better because of it.
SoulHero7 1 year ago
@SoulHero7 Back in the days when all the video game characters were white too.
tangram108 1 year ago
@tangram108 Good point sir. At least we had a few female fighters back then as well. :)
SoulHero7 1 year ago
@SoulHero7
exactly, which resident evil was the best? 1, no question. it really fuckin scared me to death in some parts.
the newer ones are just some horror shooting instead of focusin on the horror... or maybe i just have grown
Morgoth814 1 year ago
Sounds like a factory...
olivierfromricochet 1 year ago
the forefather of techno
Regenmann111 1 year ago
i remember beating this game over and over just to hear this lol.
LadyAvrilLavigne 1 year ago
9 von 10 stimmen in meinem kopf sagen das ich nicht verrückt bin.
die 10te summt die melodie von tantalus in secret of mana ;D
hab das lied seid 15 jahren in meinem kopf und finde es einfach nur genial!
ohrwurmpotential garantiert :)
kazuyasc33 1 year ago
When I first played this through, I just paused the game right here. For about 2 hours.
LilCreezy2007 1 year ago
This is my favorite theme from this RPG, honestly one of my favorite all time boss themes to.
Lizardman 1 year ago
I remember when I first hear this song when I got to this boss and thinking: "oh man, this one's gonna be a motherf*cker..." And until I read a walkthrough, I was right!
I love how they remixed the southern ruins song into this one
a50745 1 year ago
this is the song i have in my head ever since i started to raid in wow...it fits for every boss!
Alaxina 1 year ago
@Alaxina
lol
besides that, it gives you the feeling that the boss is really really hard and your raid is near wiping and in absolute chaos?! XD
Vazruden 1 year ago
@Vazruden
that just makes it more interesting :P If you can raid under stress and actually kill the boss, you can do anything xD
Alaxina 1 year ago
@Vazruden
checked and approved...it still works in Firelands dammit xD
Alaxina 2 months ago
sounds like sound lag
nekmed89 1 year ago
This is the best tune from Secret of Mana, next to Jema's happy song.
Slumpnasty 1 year ago
I've never had the passion to play Secret of Mana, but good god DAMN, the Dark Lich is a SUPERB boss battle. The music is even gorgeous.
KingDededeBrawlKing 1 year ago
I got a terrible nightmare from listening O.o
Miri0mouse 1 year ago 2
i cum in my pants when i hear this, i freakin love this game!
iamxscooby2 1 year ago
Me and my brother used to loop this game so many times, and we'd pause the game during the boss just to hear this awesome music before pummeling Dylucks ass with Lumina beams.
Damn, this game rocked my world.
Poochie1337 1 year ago
The Oracle
Szriko 1 year ago
Perfect music for that boss. Shit still freaks me out.
OnePunch89 1 year ago
This still stands as my favorite video game music ever. So damn heavy, you can picture that creepy bitch stalking you.
Velasa 1 year ago
fag ! fix that video ! its mono dumbaz
TheGuyBehindThePC 1 year ago
I listen to this almost everyday.Its that awesome!
damnittwice 1 year ago
Don't you love boss music that distracts you from fighting to listen to its awesomeness?? XD
lalahland 1 year ago
It really was an "oh shit" moment
Odysseus154 1 year ago 10
shit is evil!
catx420x 1 year ago
Perfect theme for that boss... totally got my attention.
easygoingb 1 year ago
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lilshaw012 1 year ago
you never get tired of it hahaha
neyuAudi 1 year ago
Tetsuo- Iron man?
katten838 1 year ago
When I played this first time around I was ced to fight this boss D:
OmegaDude22 1 year ago
Hands down the best song from this game.
SuperioRobot 1 year ago
Man this whole damn trak just says, Get ready cuz Im comin for yo azz!!! LOL.
Love it!
1212LeoSnake 1 year ago
8 bit black metal... siiiiiick.
divinemanifestation 1 year ago 2
@divinemanifestation It's more like 8-bit Industrial..It's too techno-ey to be metal
tigastrike 1 year ago 6
@divinemanifestation INDEED xD Release was 1993, maybe some bands got inspired :P
ToteGestalt 1 year ago
had a Halloween party last year and used this as one of the party songs haha
BarbedWireCondom 1 year ago 5
haha thats awesome!
andrewvr86 1 year ago
I still love this game, the music is simply superb, this theme is one of my favourites.... Really creepy and perfect in that way.
Sparkbomber 2 years ago
ugh, even as a grown man this still creeps me the fuck out. i imagine a horde of rotting skeletons trying to break in, then chasing me screaming down the street 8|
Nonplusser 2 years ago
I was mad that I never got last orb for some of the weapons, I never got the swords, the gloves, the boomerang, and i think a couple more. I just kept playing and they never popped up.
ViskASC 2 years ago
When I first heard this song back in the dayI was like "WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON". One of the best boss themes ever.
fookinprawnz0rz 2 years ago 6
please dont even start with tard shit like making a rap out of this epic one.
rap sucks.
Secret of Mana is simply perfect *_*
5* ^.^
WuZaiiii 2 years ago 18
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This would make an awesome rap if someone added lyrics to it.
Bei1052 2 years ago
Having met the composer of this song, I think he might agree.
GeneLangley 2 years ago
wicked
one winged angel and even dancing mad can suck it
flikkerflash 2 years ago 8
DIK DIK DIK
QuickstartBlazin 2 years ago
I got scared of this when I played it the first time, I was about 10 years old..
Klumpeklossen 2 years ago
i paused the game just to listen to that theme as i was young ! favorite!
FreddeMeansChaos 2 years ago 3
@FreddeMeansChaos Effin right dude this my fav tune as a kid for real
ViskASC 2 years ago
i did the exact same thing
moshua 1 year ago
ouai
VIVE LA FRANCE
when you listen seriously 0:52..it's break music serious battle!!!!
Skyblazerflash 2 years ago
this is even more awesome than the mana beast theme OO...best theme in SoM!!!!!!
JohnnyStyle300 2 years ago
great lyric. "how much wood would a woodchuck chuck"
leon5080 2 years ago
i always think about the end fly (the manga) when ban appears!!!!!ca me fait pensez au manga fly a la fin quand myst prend le corps a ban LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Skyblazerflash 2 years ago
this song makes you feel so accomplished when you finally BEAT THE LIVING CRAP out of this guy lol
enetick 2 years ago
*HEADBANGS* Dude I would fight that Lich over and over and OVER JUST to hear this theme, BEST Boss fight theme of any 16bit old school games!!!
Its a freaking Shame there are NO good remixes of it!!!
Crossroadsinc 2 years ago 6
I got fucking euphoric, when Listening...
Scuare Musik ROCKZ <3
In each fucking Decade, Century and Millenium <3 Ya know?! ;)
NaKuriZa 2 years ago
I had a terrible nightmare after listening to the theme O.O
Miri0mouse 2 years ago 5
i love it best rpg evar uniq in al ways
Ni83co 2 years ago
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JohnnyLocust 2 years ago
Best. Fucking. Song. Ever.
bogulmon 2 years ago 74
@bogulmon there is no other song that pumped me up soooo much gahhh
ingridcanales 1 year ago
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rachparov 9 months ago
if anyone wants to know, the actual name of this song is "The oracle"
ultrazeldafan 2 years ago 10
this songs been playing in my head for over 15 years.
serge809 2 years ago 61
same.
Onimbus 2 years ago
lol
moshua 1 year ago
@serge809 That's sure is a long boss battle... You sure you can make it alive?
Guratonii 1 year ago
@serge809
Guratonii 1 year ago
@serge809 Make it 16, but you better go see a shrink for that.
tangram108 1 year ago
Most metal-like tune I heard on a videogame when it came out- *HEADBANGS*
kamikaze9699 2 years ago
I will never forget it! My best friend and me beat this dude on Halloween. We were very young. So it was fucking awesome for us.This music made us really nervous xD
xXBudSpencerXx 2 years ago
play this at a Halloween party!
mopbrothers 2 years ago 2
all i did was use lucent beam and the fire balls on this guy
Gladiator00000 2 years ago
This is scary theme o_o
EPIC!
Nitromatic 2 years ago
I would shit myself if i had to fight someone and they came out to this music
Ian2forget 2 years ago 4
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By far the best song of the Secret of Mana OST. It might compair to some songs from the Chrono Trigger OST.
naynay101hotdog 2 years ago
Epic music! my favorite song from the bosses in this game :D <3
I'd did beat the crap out of this guy w/o charged attacks :)) (i did have all though, lvl 99 - all armor, max spellz, everything :D - many hours of playing)
<--- Addicted to SoM :D
spawnyke 2 years ago 3
the download the rom and patch it with hard secret of mana
dark lich has in the hard version
about 30k hit points and resistance against light
andbruec8 2 years ago
I dunno why I only did 0 dmg on this boss without charged hits >.>
Whenever I charge my attks i'd only do 300dmg at best =/
Anyone know why I was doing such terrible dmg on this guy?
Mage13246 2 years ago
try lucent beam 3 times in a row it does 999 dmg
he has also weapon dmg resistance thats why you do less dmg to him
oh and he fly
andbruec8 2 years ago
My lucent beam was only lvl 3 and it only did like 400dmg at the most =/
and on the final battle I reeked badly at him.....I only did 250dmg this time. All my spells were useless =/
Mage13246 2 years ago
ok that is really hard to beat him with
lucent beam lvl 3 but with light magic lvl 5 and higher, he is really easy
andbruec8 2 years ago
Well I did beat him after using a number of charged hits. I ran out of MP and healing items during the fight with the mana beast.
Mage13246 2 years ago
Black people.
naynay101hotdog 2 years ago 2
White people.
MewEcks 2 years ago
Brown people.
naynay101hotdog 2 years ago
I'll pretend this convo went:
XphaetonVx: I was being facetious
QuickstartBlazin: It's cool
For someone who's blazin' you seem to be quite critical and not so jocular. Smoke some and chill out.
jas16899 2 years ago
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Meh, tried weed, didn't like it.
QuickstartBlazin 2 years ago
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I'm glad I amuse you.
Yes, I'm a prick.
No, I'm not thin-skinned, I'm just being what you said I was, a "Self-absorbed prick."
QuickstartBlazin 2 years ago
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I'll reply to that because "I'm a self-absorbed prick."
I didn't insult you because I need to feel better about myself, I did because "I'm a self-absorbed prick." I had to puff myself up because, "I'm a self-absorbed prick."
Thank you for your time.
QuickstartBlazin 2 years ago
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Lemme translate that for the noobies.
;D
"I'm a retard who doesn't know how to spell the and I replace is by r."
"I'm a superdouche."
QuickstartBlazin 2 years ago
SNES era struck the perfect balance of technology and gameplay. Prior to 16-bit, graphics were ugly and music was bloopy. After 16-bit, gameplay started dumbing down in favor of fancy polygons. SNES graphics were beautiful, the sound was rich, and the gameplay was actually fun.
Devast8ion 2 years ago 3
can't wait to hear this played by a full orchestra. great track !
FaberBollonius 2 years ago 2
My favourite music theme in my favourite snes game, I've made 98 levels in this game :)
cruchy 2 years ago
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only sounds like weird techno stuff to me.
xdiz 2 years ago
This is from an era when developers put their heart and soul into a game. Pity; we don't ever see that anymore.
TheAlmightyBaco 2 years ago 8
I 100% agree with you they worked HARD with what little materials they had with the midi system and went the full length.
foxain 2 years ago
This sound Evil & Dark!...I love it!!
hehe Thanks! 5/5
darkkyosukecrono 2 years ago 3
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dark lich is very easy i have all lvl 9 weapons and all magics are at 9
the mana dragon is better as him
Superarkboy2 2 years ago
i pulled my snes out yesterday, i still have this game, awsome soundtrack
dancid82 2 years ago
If I was an evil beast of true badass evil, this would be one of my songs easily....
foxain 2 years ago 3
I love this kinda boss music, so intense and dark.
lionessjenna 2 years ago 5
Can you feel the beat? Can anybody say where i got or downloadf this soundtrack? Or give me this in MP3, please. Please.
Squadalha 2 years ago 4
This TOTALLY sounds like something out of Akira, and that movie was jittin' crazy! I gott hand it to Kikuta for one BadAss soundtrack.
I wouldn't be suprised if him and and guys like Geinoh Yamashirugumi often fed off each other in their musical designs. 5 stars!
Palamneus 2 years ago 4
ridiculous music for it's time. best soundtrack ever
Crisis757 2 years ago 4
hm... i noticed that your sound is only on the left side of the speakers...
ilovejeko 2 years ago 9
Ya you gotta watch it in HQ
ithrowwaterballoons 2 years ago 3
when goes into the floor stay away from because he will do heavy dmg to kill any party memeber
golbezchaoslord 2 years ago 2
Mmmmmm sexy.
Awsomtwo 2 years ago 3
My blood pressure goes waaaaaay up when I listen to this song, and my skin kinda crawls... this song is pure evil!
SergeOfArniVillage 2 years ago 24
@SergeOfArniVillage
haha, yeah this song is epic
demonfa 1 year ago
fuck I wanna rave when I hear this!
art11art12 2 years ago 6
PSYCHODELIC :-)
deondamon 2 years ago 6
Oddly enough, this music reminds me of Le Gran Luxe from Shadow hearts.
Myth3842 2 years ago
Hahaha awesome annotations ftw!
operations1000 2 years ago
Sounds like some old Aphex Twin stuff ( epic )
5 Stars
...I miss playing this game
GrandPopPoplock 2 years ago
OMG CREEPY SONG!!!
overkill1994 2 years ago 5
YEAH !! One of the best fights of this game.
THANATOZ RULES !!!!
Aeryos 2 years ago 3
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THE Kel'Thuzad of '90 XD and after that Malygos (mana Beast),but only three ppl to down them lol. EPICCCCC
DiscusvissenRocken 2 years ago
please by all means do not compare secret of mana to wow ^^;
metalj 2 years ago 17
this is sooo possesd sounding...I can feel the evil lol,.,.
GoombaGoone 2 years ago 5
Yea id have to say spike tirger was prolly top3 hardest
visk98 2 years ago 3
chrono trigger is good but not as hard as Secret of mana. the bosses may not do chain cast but they don't need to. and the monsters can easly kill you if you don't have good armor on. the dark lich is hard because he got some nasty spells and he sometimes makes his hands come out of the floor and attack you. secret of mana is better. the 3rd boss in secret of mana was really hard. spike tiger that would engulf you in fire, chew on you, crush you, and lower your attack.
golbezchaoslord 2 years ago
i remember that fight, i remember finally beating him and yelling "ha take that u bastard" the minute my parents were coming through the door
MaidenFan24568 2 years ago 3
This would be some awesome music to listen to while playing Unreal Tournament!
CDProductions66 2 years ago
I love this theme!I downloaded this on the VC!
supermariofan53 2 years ago
Whats with MONO? You can't get the real Jist of the music in mono...
DDark66 2 years ago
To fix that you can just put &fmt=18 or &fmt=6 at the end of any video w/ mono.
Smartguyy007 2 years ago
Damn, it's just so cool. I can't stop listening to it!
skypfry550 2 years ago
Agreed w/ anomalousone. Most badass boss theme of any game ever....ever.
skypfry550 2 years ago
best game! best boss theme!
LordPeavie 2 years ago 2
this is perhaps the most badass boss theme of any game ever
thanks to the poster
anomalousone 2 years ago 3
This music still makes me quake with fear.
Phearbomb 2 years ago 4
Ahh, this tune is badass.
Zanmato007 2 years ago 4
I haven't played Chronotrigger, but SoM makes me happy enough.
nyn78 2 years ago
you must. you can't go through life without playing that game.
alrightwtf 2 years ago 8
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you don't know what your missing. SoM is awesome but Chrono trigger is even better
obliviousthunder 2 years ago