The Wolfe Tones, Late Late Show Debate, RTE - Part 2

[Burncourtable]

I don't condone the beating that the guy got in Waterford but for fuck sake what was he doing with an Ulster flag at a W.T gig

[GrinningSceptic]

Fintan O'Toole is a complete knob! But three against one is not a fair fight.

[TheLily54]

ahaha if only natural gass would burn Fintan O Tooles ass and blow him to hell

[RcNicoll]

I Have now been to 3 wolfe tones gigs now and I will keep going. I think thay are an amazeing band. True some of the songs are about the celtic and the IRA but they are telling a story just like every other band worldwide. it is also true that some of the fans who go support celtic and or the IRA but you can't decide what fans go to your gigs and how your fans act its like saying that before the tones thare was no war in Ireland or football rivalry. I am not up the RA I am up the "wolfe Tones"

[totes32]

lets dig up the remains of the leaders of 1916 and burn them on a big fire as they were labelled terrorists...fuck me is that what you really think in the free state,shame on any person born on this island who condemns or criticzes our past and future....roll on president mcguinness and a 32 county socialist republic free from rich bankers and tv wankers.

[mungral09]

ulster gaa flag is yellow ya wanker

[EnglishChannel1]

A comment from England. I've heard Ireland has been swamped with immigration (rather like us) for the last 10 years. Will the Tones write songs about the Somalians and Poles who are now arriving? I heard 1 in 10 people in Ireland now are foreigners and have arrived in the last 10 years. If you're lucky they will just have no loyalty, and call you all racists if you are not loyal to them. Most though will hate the place. Mass immigration has ruined Britain. Be careful it doesnt ruin Ireland too.

[TranceInMyPants21]

Up the Wolfe Tones and up the IRA

[trollfinger]

In a bizarre way, to not talk about your oppressed history, is to be made ashamed of your scars.

[jonoessex]

@trollfinger What about the scars of the victims of the failed IRA campaign (1970 to 1997)?

[trollfinger]

Fuck Off Fintan O Toole.

[gceltmc]

ive got a english accent and i have been to see the wolf tones about 10 times in england and i have never had any trouble from the crowd

[GallagherWellerBrown]

These guys can't live with someone who's intelligent, articulate, and is able to back up his facts, so they all just shout at the same time. Genius.

[ronniehello]

whos yourman from 4 and a half mins on?

[DaveMcG]

@ronniehello mick clifford I think, he's a journo

[S4561230]

that jerno in de crowd looks like a pedo

[barinit]

finton o'toole is a cunt

[oranbhoy67]

the stutterin prick in the crowd is just as bad... up the `RA!!!!

[oranbhoy67]

o toole the tool.. speccy twat!!

[erebus1x1]

I have been to many Wolfetone gigs and I must say that I have never heard them say " English f**k off". They are Irish and they, through their songs, detail Irish history and if you expect something different stay at home.

[212Polly]

O'Tool is such a tool tool tool tool

[212Polly]

@cfmayhem The wofle tones have a song about the nice prods that helped the poor irish people! The wolfe tones tell the truth

[212Polly]

@aoibhemc wish Gay Burne done this interview, Pats a twat

[Liam2621]

i feel depressed just looking at fintan o' toole, hes got a horrible face

[subboy31]

wat a dick



[eoinmcgowan]

wat a twat

[212Polly]

@eoinmcgowan He's a wrong one alright

[Traitorfish]

This is interesting and all, but Jesus, this Pat Kenny chap can't control a debate to save himself. Sort of feel sorry for the poor bugger, stuck in the middle there trying to play the voice of reason!

[212Polly]

@Traitorfish Bring back Gay

[MrGetthefunkout]

fuck that guy hes clealy a hun OOOH AHHH UP THE RA

[bluejays1945]

and yes may the natural gas burn your ass and burn you all to hell

[phoenix1916]

PS didnt they sing about the "Brave protestant men"???

[WARISHELL09]

@phoenix1916 Its funny protestant me are only considered brave by you when they fight for you're stinking cause, the real brave protestant men were the men who stood firm against you're fucking rabble of terrorist fuckwits and helped keep NI Beautiful and British

[phoenix1916]

what the fuck is this imbecile talking about an "Ulster GAA" flag with the red hand???  Imbecile that the unionism flag!!!

[yam500]

@phoenix1916  Tyrone flag

[maspethbhoy]

what a little cunt!

[E1REANN]

Fintan "Trotsky" O'Toole's mindset and and his advocation of the neo-plantation and colonisation of Ireland and the dissolution of our national identity and social cohesion by way of mass immigration, 'multiculturalism' and his militant liberalism is certainly not supported by the vast majority of the Irish people!

[Moireach1]

The majority of Black and Tans were not made up of Scots although many Scots did serve as did native Irish(prominently from the North). Scotland's role in this world is conducted from London, England and It is this English parliament that determines international affairs. All empires have used the people from the lands conquered to serve in their armed forces. In fact Irish soldiers have served english armies for a lot longer than Scots due to the time Ireland came under english control!

[Moireach1]

A country that doesn't have independence to control it's on way in the world can't be blamed for the ill judgement of those who rule, whether they be Scots or Irish. England does equal Britain, it is seen as such throughout the world and those Scots who buy into the idea of being British are a product of 250 years of propaganda on par with nazi Germany, using state sponsored religious bigotry in conjunction with striping the culture and historic truth of the land.

[Moireach1]

As for the Wolfe Tones stuff, well it does rile the blood which isn't the best thing at this delicate time politically for the North. There has been enough killing and all it takes is one 18 yr old fud with a gun to spoil things. I truly believe a united Ireland will come( I also believe this would happen a lot faster with an independent Scotland ) but it must be given the time it needs to happen without bloodshed which the vast majority of those in the North and in the republic do not want!

[Mikey2k8C]

o'toole, Irish???, fuking british minded fuck

[usmarine1814]

So, because there is a process in place today, the Tones should not sing songs about the past? Whether it be about 1789 or 1989. It is history!!! Can't change it no matter how hard ya try. Everyone has a point of view. Its their right.

[wayneLsmith51]

that limey has pubic hair on his head lmao!!!

[wayneLsmith51]

Those limey bastards should shut up and let the tones actually explain their point of view. Dirty bastards, I am glad we kicked their ass in 1776, just wish the Irish had. The british tyrranny never ends.

[0Hanrahanrahanrahan]

@wayneLsmith51 I'm glad the French rescued your asses in the war of independence - the right outcome I reckon.

But it's a pity you evil fuckers went on to commit terrible crimes against humanity - against Africans, American Indians, East Asians, South-east Asians, Arabs and Latin Americans. Seems you're only happy either committing murderous crimes yourself of lecturing the Brits on theirs.

You're a hypocritical racist bollocks.

[jonoessex]

@0Hanrahanrahanrahan well said!

[padraigomuireagain]

Fucking west brit freestaters. They did the same thing to Gerry Adams on RTÉ.

[yam500]

@padraigomuireagain And Adams has sold you out...

[irishgeal1]

can finton walk up the shANKILL WITH A IRISH FLAG WRAPPED AROUND HIM AND COME BACK ON HERE AND TELL US about the way he was treated extra good for been warped in a irish flag and then we can take him to his word.

[irishgeal1]

pat is a brit rimmer with no doutf, and pat taken over the late late has proved it in his over caring about any country and ireland second, he's a mixed up rimmer.

[irishgeal1]

lmfao that prick planted in the crowd should be go straight to the british embassey and pick up his passport, and forget about money,  he's already got it in a offshore account for his complinance.

[OisinMac99]

like nobody gives a fuck wat that stupid brit fintan otoole sais? like the wolfe tones just laugh at what he has to say here and whenever they talk the crowd shout in support? fuck the britsh wankers and UP THE FUCKING RA

[sugarpuffsandwich]

this middle class wanker isn't irish. hes a wannabe brit. does he want everyone just want to forget about all those men who fought for ireland, and gave their lives? thats one thing i love about irish music/poetry etc...we remember our heroes!

[yam500]

@sugarpuffsandwich  Get out from under the bed son

[sugarpuffsandwich]

@yam500 what the fuck are you on about now?!

[yam500]

@sugarpuffsandwich I doubt you have the Intellect to understand lol lol lol

[sugarpuffsandwich]

@yam500 i see there are lots of other irish people who hate you. why dont u grow up, yank?!

[yam500]

@sugarpuffsandwich Relax son,

[sugarpuffsandwich]

well, those people who did the beating up obviously dont know anything. the ulster flag has the red hand of ulster (from the o'neill clan). the loyalist paramilitaries stole it from irish history, and thats how it ended up on NI's flag too.

[corkery1984]

The Ulster GAA flag is yellow and red you idiot

[shakeahand1]

Fintan o Toole is a tool. I heard what he wrote about Elvis Presley. Fintan is a middle class git, Elvis conquered the world and was a charismatic genius. Fintan is a musty, bookworm, phoney intellectual who earns more than he should by expressing opinion, nothing more. As far as fights at gigs go, Wolf Tones are not unique, remember Rolling Stones at Altamont.

[ogairbhith]

fintin your a wee west brit wank

[14689001456789900000]

ULSTER ! IRISH FREEDOM

TAL

free staters need to support irish freedom more with actions !!!

[tubeasswipe]

that guy is a weirdo ITS CRAZY

[KungfuCow5]

...Well it was more this morning.

[KungfuCow5]

Saw them in Kilburn yesterday!

[ErinMacMaire]

Tiocfaidh ár lá

[Funloverdude]

The womans american, her view is rubbish, I know too many americans whos views are peperminted with Leprechans and shamrocks.

[KungfuCow5]

She sounded quite intelligent actually, and I don't like America!

[josparkes1]

Brilliant Wolfe Tones. I am British with an irish grandfather and I was at a W Tones concert in Dublin this august 2009 and loved it. Had my pic taken with Brian and Tommy !

[TheGzeus]

Why do you have to tell both sides of every story?

This man is... horrible.

[TheGzeus]

It's foolish to blame a band for their fans.

Fool.

[daveobhoy]

fintan  O TOOLE ... IS A PRICK

[Evilacidfunker]

That guys a self-important cunt. Theres nothing wrong with being a republican

[ThomasIRL95]

OMG that kenny lad...im ashamed to say hes irish, WOLFE TONES ARE LEGENDS AND PATRIOTS!

[STPATSCM92]

hes a fucking wanker that o toole and kenny

[DOOLINJOHN]

well said!!

[krny07]

how stupid can that man get ....from 0:38 - 0:46

he completely contradicts himself......the flag which is white and has the red hand so happens to be the loyalist "northern Ireland flag>>>>>>>the real ulster flag has a yellow background no exceptions.......no wonder they got mauled..he is such a twat ...

[eamonnca1]

Can't hear a damn thing. A couple of words and then people start shouting over each other.

[paulspill1991]

the wolfetones are da best

[slugger81]

Free State Scum. Its funny how some people in the south talk about the mass murder of other irish people in the north. He seems to forget about the mass murder, internment, torture of irish people after the formation of the 26 county state. This fucking prick also never knew what it was like to grow up in a sectarian one party state. I Fucking hate people like him. West british

[yam500]

@slugger81 What have you done son?

[jbrad54235]

Fat guy attacking the wolfetones is not r1b he is neither good looking nor thin get out One race r1b

[langer252]

Fintan O'Toole is a disgrace to the country, tool by name and tool by nature.

Pat Kenny, what a plank. West Brit fuckwits.

The Wolfe Tones are Legend.

[buckfastred]

How dare that specky cunt talk to the wolf tones like that.Show how much he no`s ulster flag in white it`s in yellow you prick.The wankers done well out of the tiger boom and think thier somethink speical .real irish men dont for get o toole you have no tool.

[STPATSCM92]

fuck that specky cunt ........up da ra

[colemanno1]

wat a wanker in the glasses

[unnoblegnome09]

i'll say it ..all english fuck off

[avrahammenorah]

why what have they done to you racist?

[dromadoir]

you are joking right?

[drumelismafia]

o'toole you fool...call yourself a reporter for one of the top newspapers in dis island,,you wuold wana take a long hard luck at yourself..those men sing about heros of our history,,men who fought and died for him to be able to do what he does and make over a hundred thousand a year in a FREE republic,that man should be ashamed of himself,i was part of a wolfetones concert at one event and it was fantastic wit no relation to the provisionalIRA at all.pearse emmet nd collins should be remembered

[dmitchatwork]

fintan and pat two west brits

[cioupty]

fintan o toole has a very apt surname , heh heh!! up the RA!!

[Mike62589]

the wolfe tones are legends, cant wait to see them again in march

[T1ocfa1dhArLa]

Fintan O'Toole is a little gimp

[gordinhurox]

he's a tool

[CATHAL172]

i was at a wolfetone gig on tuesday night! it was fekin brilliant!!! Finton, you're a fuckin eejit!!!

[fatherted101]

"If thers anyone here from england, fuck off"

haha i have to go see da tones

[paddy05]

what a dick fintan is!

[MySelf2282]

Fintan is cool!!

[dcraigster10]

fintan really is a fucking toole!! wata muppet

[crickyw]

thats a lie about the england comment, sure there playing in liverpool in a few weeks. fintan hang ur head in shame!

[fiatargento]

the brits did fuck us over its our history..wake up fintan

[fiatargento]

fintan bollx o toole

[fiatargento]

you are an orange man fintan..go fuck ur self

[MatIrish]

the ulster gaa flag is yellow and has the red hand of ulster

[DavidMolloy91]

fintans talking absolute bollox

[jphughesy66]

Dont let twats like o'toole and o'doherty fool you,most people think they are pricks.The freedoms they enjoy were on the back of men of courage and bravery,republicans and socialists(remember where your parties come from even tho they try to forget).They cant cope with it,that modern Ireland comes from the men of '98 '16 and the war of independence,men with an Irish heart.Thank f*** it wasnt left to the likes of them or we'd be watchin cricket and singin 3 lions!

[eamo07]

this fintan guy needs to shove his political correctness up his arse. fuck political correctness i'm sick of it we need patriotism in this country we should be flying our flag with pride. i've been down south at easter a few times and there's not a tri colour to be seen and the same thing is starting to happen here in the north. let the wolfe tones spread their patriotism through this confused land.

let the people sing.

[LURIG81]

The Irish media is full of, and run by, sanctimonious right wing Unionists who see ANY expression of Irishness as a crime. They dominate ALL aspects of the print & broadcasting medium in the South so when topics like the Wolfe Tones come up they express mock outrage. They have ALWAYS had an anti-Nationalist agenda and have twisted Irish history to suit their own narrow British/Unionist view. When ordinary Dubs protested against the Orange Order in 2006 they said they were all from the NORTH!

[heanai]

I'm from the South of Ireland man and i couldn't aggree with you more regarding RTE!! There are other Irish Media Networks that do show Irish things and are run by true Irish people:D TG4 tng etc. But the Late Late Show has done this a few times. Gerry Adams got ambushed one time, i think its on youtube somewhere. But i aggree it makes me sick to see of our own turn on us. Thats always been a problem for us. Siochan

[corneliusbumfluff]

Say what you like!I saw these lads in Dublin great musicians,great gig.WHY has it become a crime to be nationalist?if you take the songs seriously and start shooting people after listening to a song,it sure as hell isnt the lads fault!Has everyone forgot what has happened to us in the past just because we have a few Euro in our pockets?I dont think the tones are sectarian hence their name a famous protestant rebel hero,THE ENGLISH did fuck us,listen to to Hell or Barbados by Damien Dempsey.

[IrelandsCrusader]

Fintan Screw off! Bastard! UP THE RA!

[alanm08]

ah would that fintan cunt eveer fuck off

[mcveighp]

They had an old storment butchers apron, not an Ulster Flag!

[TributePA]

the ulster gaa flag has yellow not white on it you spoon!!

[howdofolks]

if somebody goes to see the wolfetones with that red hand of ulster flag , they are there to cause trouble and mayhem they are not there to enjoy the lads performing , what was it he said a few lads from the north who were catholic , nationalist , my arse , maybe its me but it doesnt add up , not that i agree with people getting assaulted for flying the red hand flag or any other flag for that matter

[08Hattie]

exactly why would you be there in the first place

[mick4eire]

UP THE RA! UP THE TONES

[Dubitndum]

oh fintan thou art but a typical middle class type who has forgotten the revolutionary origins which makes your dissent possible

[jiggywinkles]

interesting . pity all sides couldnt shut the fuck up and let the other person speak, especially mr plastic pat, seems to me he has his opinions up his arse too ,

[totes32]

fintan is a free stater and not irish,if the men of 1916 had that front of that twat where would you lot be today...............UNDER BRITISH RULE.

[theliffey1]

go fuck your self fin i played with the tones many times true pros and gentlemen... pete.

[cfwilzn]

The reason this so foolish is Fintin is completely ignorant of both the Wolfe Tones and Irish history.

First, Wolfe Tone was an IRISH PROTESTANT. So, they have to be somewhat limitedly NON-sectarian (does F know this?) Next, the Wolfe Tones sing a number of songs praising Irish Protestants -- lots of their songs discuss the United Irishmen (mostly Protestant) and their significant role in the 1798 rebellion. What is wrong with this guy? Proud to be of Irish Protestant and Catholic heritage.

[jimybhoy1983]

ooh ahh up the ra!

[KelvsIsHere]

Exactly Ireland never tried to opress anyone, they tried to get their country back!

[TirEoghainLad]

The tones as well as being great singers are great people who are articulate and are unrepentant about the story of Ireland and about being Irish.

The audience can see the futility of both Pats and Fintan attempts to trip the tones up.

You'll never beat the Irish!!

[clarebannerman]

"An intellectual corner boy" and I'm not a fan of the Wolfe Tones. The same kind of nationalism has been used as an excuse in the US to invade Iraq.

[dmcpromotions]

When you compare Irish Nationalism to the American/British invasion of Iraq you are missing one important point, the Irish have never invaded another people's country, for either good or bad, and there in lies the difference.

[212Polly]

@clarebannerman Ireland never invaded a country...it just got invaded and tried to defend. Please answer me because I dont understand your comparision???? Im confused by your coment

[gerrys2145]

What a prick. Piss of out off Ireland

[crinnigan07]

FINTAN IS A PURE PRICK

[fergal83]

FINTAN IS A TRUE PATRIOT!

[foxsg]

sorry flintan the 9 county of ulster flag is yellow!!!

[McDaidMrocks]

That guy Finton is the biggest ballbag! He's talking out his arse! If you don't like the Irish what the fuck you doin in this country!??? Speccy bastard!

[cult54]

the british gov are to blame, they havent apologised yet!!! they have brought oppression over lots of countrys and get a way with it.

[danzo240]

What a self righteous gobshite that other guest is

[mcgrady1916]

to rit m8 specky hun

[donegalscot]

also the 'journalist' in the audience is even worse.deperately trying to find something genuinely wrong with the wolfe tones gigs.'why do you only sing about victims?' - is he serious? got to the stage i was expecting him to criticise the stage lighting! as for asking why they don't sing about gerry adams+martin mcguinness,you can be sure if they had he would be condemning the fact they were singing about a former provo n rumoured IRA leader.you cant win with these idiots,but you can ignore them

[tadgerno1]

i cant believe that guest and the journalist in the audience,it's almost like they are ashamed of their background.

[donegalscot]

is that fintan for real? he makes points out of nothing and just because he has said them hopes people will accept them, what a load of pish. credit to the wolfe tones lads for not walking out. when people mention the IRA too many uneducated idiots only think about 1970 onwards, there was a struggle for independance for hundreds of years prior to this with an IRA of some shape or form

[KenfromDublin]

'Nick the journalist' works for the Sunday Tribune which is owned by the anti-Irish Anglophile 'Sir' Tony O'Reilly who who recently ran a hate campaign in his papers against 'The Wind that Shakes the Barley' after it won the Palme 'dor at the Cannes film festival.

His lie mercenary dishonest journalists know the consequences if they don't tow the line and write hit pieces against anything that promotes Irish nationalism.

O'Reilly is literally a pimp and they his literary prostitutes.

[dublinnoely]

People are smart enough nowadays to know the difference between Terrorism and History. The Tones promoted history. God Save The Queen is the worst model for terrorism ever put to music!

[stookiebhoy]

I totally and wholeheartedly agree. GSTQ is a terrible song.

[Conall06]

a must say from watching this, that kenny boy is an ejet and so is that fintan boy, its embarrassing the remarks they are making!!