@Maurody I AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n900 and galaxy s2 are tha best devices EVER! between n900 and galaxy s2, I prefere n900 cuz you can more things than galaxy, so n900 makes tha rules, bro!!! \m/
@aruxandeicosmin yes! I have N900 and i love it!! is beautiful as my girlfriend hahah. no seriously, after n900 Nokia n9 is really good. and obvviously Samsung galaxy II is impressing. Remember the nokia lumia 800 with 1.4 ghz processor wow! hehe Nokia is King and Father!
@zawette what your leaving out is the fact that the game will be played over the net and not directly using the phones capabilities. Besides that the iphone is garbage. always has been always will be. you should have read a bit farther in that search you did.
@snuski BIIIIIIIIIIIIIG thumbs up on that one. starcraft's native resolution was like 600x480 or something, pretty close to the n900's 800x480. should look pretty damn cool. micro-management may suck juuuuuuust a little, and they'd have to work out a way to transfer the classic left-click select and right-click attack/move into a stylus tap ..hmm. and of course blizzard would probably deny any sort of maemo port; probably why it hasn't already happened :( we'll see.
@BrEnNo1023 it acctualy has been done in the name "stratagus" youtube it or google, i read on their homepage yesterday that they stoped uppdating it and are focusing on "bos wars" based on the stratagus engine.
@snuski hooooooooooooooly...i'm looking at a youtube video of it now... it's actually now called 'strategy gaming engine' now in the app manager...and i've downloaded it and NOW i need to figure out how to get (add? download? install?) starcraft ON my n900 RIGHT now!!!
I'm...excited XD
but where does it go after you install it? 0.0 i'll check out the maemo site..
@snuski actually scratch that, it doesn't work. not only can i not get stratagus to work (i can't even find it in my n900 after i install it) but i have no way to launch stargus after i put it into my SD card. it's not worth the effort. maybe if there was a step-by step tutorial with the RIGHT instructions (some instructions that actually make sense and actually work when i follow them)...i'd give it another go, but until then... grrrr computers -..-
@BrEnNo1023 yeah dude ive been trying to find a step by step tutorial but dont seem to find any that works kinda disapointing :( but if u find anything hook me up will ya?
@snuski i was looking last night, the best one i could find was this w ww(.) nokian900applications (.)com / starcraft-for-nokia-n900 / (remove brackets and crap -.-)
but it failed for me, the link to the stratagus version 0.1-4 download the site provides is broken...and the instructions are completely out of date too because there's a new version (stratagus 2.2.2.5 or something) in the app manager. i dunno..give it a go i suppose, it didn't work for me so i gave up.
@snuski also the comments on that page say that there's bugs where units clip through each other and walk over water, dont recognise barriers and the enemy AI is a vegetable..it sounds crap compared to the PC version. meh.
Naja, erinnert mich an alte C=64 Zeiten... ist ja nichtmal AMIGA QUalität... tztztz.. auf meinem N900 wird nur QUALITY installiert (worauf ich noch immer warte).. :(
N900 is a computer with phone runs with Linux Iphone is a smartphone only works with apps which you can not customize or emulate anything no need to compare n900 and new HTC with Iphone they are clearly better in everyway 4g may be better but still it won't be a computer phone unless they change it's system
Why are there so many trolls on youtube? This is cool, regardless if its better on a pc or not. Every video I read comments on has ppl arguing with each other over ridiculous inane points. :( Sad user is sad....
tv out is half way workin on my tv. its a samsung T240HD. it comes up really fussy and it black and white. and the sound is not workin either. my xbox works fine on the same connectors. is there somethimg wrong with my tv out cable or my n900????
i have quake on my n900 and its ace! one question tho, is there a way of getting to the main menu so i can exit propperly during game play because i have to force shut down if i cant be arsed finishing the game? i'm sure theres a way.
I don't say that iPhone is better than N900(Camera sucks, browser doesn't support flash, it hasn't keyboard, flash, VGA camera etc.)But as gaming device iPhone is much better
The nokia port is bette than the iphone's port. Currently the iphone's port is incomplete, but yes, the current fastest iphone 3GS/iPod Touch 3G does run it better.
I have both the iPod touch 3G and Nokia N82 running quake 3. I still prefer my n82.
If only they could make the controls for hte iphone quake 3 similar to the game Sandstorm or Nova (with a virtual joystick to move and using your finger to look around)
Ahahahah please stop comparing far less powerful phones like the iPhone (even the 3G) or the HD2 with the N900, it just makes people with a little more knowledge than you laughing
The Iphone 3GS GPU is underclocked compared to the one of the Nokia N900, so I think it would be difficult for it to run something faster than a N900... Like all the Apple hardware: great to see, bad to run.
@aliancemd We were talking about GPU, not CPU. Same CPU, but iPhone has a less powerful (downclocked) GPU, and the N900 got much more virtual memory (1GB of the N900 VS. 256MB of the iPhone). These things make the N900 far more powerful than the Apple thing.
C'mon guys you can't even try to compare the iPhone with the N900
Nope, N900 has 256MB Physical Memory like iPhone and 768 Virtual Memory(Virtual is a lot more slower than physical). By the way iPhone's GPU is the same as the N900 GPU but iPhone has VGX that N900 don't have. I'm not an iPhone fan but u have to admit that they have the same specs. Here it's all about software, Apple are very good at that.
@aliancemd Please read carefully, I wrote Virtual Memory in my post, and yes, it is slower but still helps a lot (try to disable your PC's virtual memory and use only RAM, it will become just unusable).
I'll never admit a wrong thing: iPhone has slower Wifi (7Mb/s VS 10Mb/s of the N900), less GPU frequencies, less battery power, a sucking camera, less recording power, less virtual memory and less useful software (yes, I don't look at number of apps, I want useful apps).
I don't use Virtual Memory on my PC :P. 2.5 GB it's enough to handle everything(not for server for sure). And the iPhone app store have awesome apps but Maemo is based on Linux so the ideea of Linux is all for free or open source so the awesome thing in Maemo is that all the apps are for free like in Linux.
@zawette And actually most of us DO want free apps. apposed to the useless apps for the iphone that cost. And no nothing that comes from apple is the best at anything. You are over hyping that garbage. It doesn't actually run any of those. they are ran through the net and just displayed on the phone. Any phone capable of surfing the net can do that.
@aliancemd Ops sorry I wrote Wifi, I mean HSDPA: iPhone has slower HSDPA and ABSOLUTELY NO HSUPA. By the way, iPhone browser has no Flash... No need to comment there. Just one last thing: no FM Radio and NO radio transmitter on the iPhone. Not informed about infrared, but I assume iPhone lacks of it.
@aliancemd I've forgotten the screen resolution (800x480 VS 480x320) and sensitivity (resistive is less funny and has no multitouch but FAR MORE sensible than capacitive). Little question for an iPhone: ehi you, have you ever heard about a thing called MULTI TASKING? I guess NOT. Maybe I'll let my N900 explain to you.
Yes, N900 have to process 384k pixels but iPhone just 153,6k that changes the things a lot and iPhone's noncapability to multitask(he actually can multitask, music+program running is multitasking) makes it faster than a multitask device. And no, Capacitive is A LOT more sensible than resistive.
@aliancemd You are making mistake. iPhone's GPU (PowerVR SGX535) is more powerful than N900's. It makes 28polygons/sec. What about N900's PowerVR SGX 530?
@proskaaa Wow, there is a lot of nescience here. Well, actually iPhone's GPU COULD do 28 Mpolys/s, but it's clocked by default to 7 Mpolys/s. Why? Because iPhone doesn't have a battery that could support such a powerful GPU... What about N900? It has a 14 Mpolys/s GPU, clocked to 14 Mpolys/s, which means that actually an N900 has double power respect to an iPhone 3GS.
Last thing: iPhone's "multitasking" is not real multitasking, even with ProSwitcher.
@torpedo4890 Why do you think it's overclocked?Just look at iPhone games. Quake 3 for example is much faster and looks better(~40FPS vs ~20FPS). Why Proswitcher isn't real multitasking?! There are ~5 apps(WebBrowser, ICQ, Vocabulary, iPod, BookReader, Proswitcher etc.) that are constantly opened on my iPhone and it isn't limit.
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Firstly, stop talking nonsense. Secondly, the multitasking on the iPhone IMMEDIATELY becomes REAL MULTITASKING when you install ProSwitcher. With the 3GS, you can open a tonne of apps and leave them backgrounded.... <- that is REAL MULTITASKING.
Next, you have no understanding of virtual memory. It is a backup for things that don't have enough physical RAM. I have 12GB of RAM (tripple channel DDR3) in my comp which means I can turn off virtual memory and my comp will run fine.
@gamingpro12 Ahahah, this demonstrates that you cannot even imagine what real multitasking is. You think that just leave an app in background is multitasking? With my N900 I can listen to music, track my GPS position, share images on Facebook, read music lyrics, be avaiable on Skype, be connected to Internet, be connected to bluetoth stereo headset. All together and in just one desktop (using widgets). THIS is multitasking, background is for iPhones.
Lol. I couldn't care less if you can do it all at once in one desktop (hmm?) on the tiny screen. Infact I can do everything you can as well.. and when the apps are backgrounded, they are still running (tracking GPS position with the navigon app, bt headset connected, ipod running, facebook, msn and skype alerts, etc). Be connected to the internet? I can download with safari download manager, minimize, do something else, come back and its finished. You really have a weak argument going on here.
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why do i want to do that on a phone ? i have a pc for that, a phone is for making calls...jeez you guys are so addicted that you cant leave your applications at home ? lol fail
@GamingPro12: yeah yeah.. you install proswitcher or whatever shit it is... it would be still a FAIL :) iphone is yet to include native support for file sending via BT, flash, etc. which is ancient technology for the most of the phones out there. LOL! nokia rocks! \m/ =P nothing personal :)
@aliancemd I used "sensible" instead of "precise", sorry. Just wanted to focus on the fact that iPhone is precise in an area of 1 cm^2, while an N900 far less (I think less than 1 mm^2). And, again, iPhone has not multitasking at all, because it would drain its battery a lot.
PS: I've 3 GB of DDR III running at 1333MHz actually, but my system uses Virtual Memory and works better. Virtual memory is needed for multitasking...
By the way, you said you had 3GB of RAM in your comp... LOL... I can tell you now that, that is not enough and it's no wonder why you need virtual memory. My windows already hogs up 1.5 GB (Windows 7) of ram, then when I load up an intensive game, thats another 1.5 - 2 GB of RAM gone. You computer doesn't have enough RAM, thats why it needs virtual memory on your harddrive to survive. Virtual memory does not make things better, it's there incase you run out of physical memory.
@torpedo4890 1GB RAM will not make this game faster because it eats just ~70-100Mb on max graphic settings) And it's faster on iPhone because it's GPU makes 28mpolygons/sec (that is main GPU characteristic) vs N900's 14 mpolygons/sec
The HD2 only has 256 MB of usable RAM. The problem with the HD2 is that HTC have a habit of not giving out proper GPU drivers. And while the HD2 has a 1 GHz snapdragon, it doesn't use the ARM A8 architecture. ARM A8 is almost twice as fast as ARM7 clock for clock.
In total yes. However, only 256 is available to any single application. This is because the rest is dedicated to background processes such as Sense UI.
Dude, the HD2 has 448 RAM + 512 ROM which is close to 256 RAM + 768 ROM of the N900. But the HD2 has a 1Ghz Processor and it also has dedicated graphics. So it should definitely run on the HTC HD2
@Shark1995 aint flash its called virtual ram like ram but from hard drive overall hd2 has more actual ram 448 vs 256 but + 768 virtual used when its out of actual ram.
people just said "5800 will be iphone killer!" and ...meh people just forgot it. but i think this might be it if there are apps for "young people" but nokia has bit business reputation so "hip" people won't be first thinking this phone
and STILL faggot ass iphone fan will say "so!...its doesnt have multitouch!!!" lmfao fuck multitouch, who cares about pinching your pictures to zoom it...gay!
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well imo its pure fail that nokia used outdated not-multitouch-enabled technology on this phone...i mean its gonna be quite expensive so they aswell might put there the best tech thats avalible...
than again, like you said...pinching pictures is not really important feature for me and id get this take this phone over iphone anyday...although i might not take it over android...im gonna have to wait for some serious reviews i guess
res. screen is not outdated. just because its old u call it outdated? its only different and better for some people. can't use a stylus or gloves with a cap. screen. multitouch is overrated. say to each his own. ANDROID sucks in my opinion, it can't even display animated gif files, thats terrible. my old nokia (2001 model) can play those files. but like i said, to each his own. just wish iphone fanboys can open their eyes and pull away from the brain was. there are TONS of phones better...
yeah my bad about that screen thingy...i looked it up and youre right..i just figured that since its not being used much in new phones it would sucks :] about that animated gifs, well i think for example android 2.0 navigation sw makes up for that pretty well ;] but maemo is really nice aswell..id love to have 'real' linux in my pocket ;] and about iphone fans...i totally agree ;]
good to see mature ppl on youtube. mostly everyone on the internet are immature as hell. the android phone (g1) was OKAY. the battery was horrible. which is what worries me about THIS phone (n900). they say that its processor doesnt take alot of batt. power but still, its a huge screen. why couldn't they just use the same batt as n97? 1500mAh. but i guess they might be right on the money with the batt lfe, if not i'll just get one of those batt boosters from walgreens or w.e
Capacitive would make some apps impossible to use. You need to remember that many apps meant for N810/N800 are meant to be used with stulys and there will be apps ported from linux that need that pinpoint accuracy that fingers can't give.
That said i want capacitive too and multitouch/capacitive will be reality with Maemo 6 like already announced by Nokia. Will see if capacitive comes before that. Would prefer capacitive, but still definitely going for N900.
well i usually try to avoid stylus like rape by fatguy :( but than again it doenst seem like stylus is required for most of the apps on n900...what concerns me more is that a lot of apps avalible for wide spread and hyped out platforms wont be probably avalible for maemo...at least for some time
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The flickr on that screen SUCKS!!! if ONLY Nokia put HDMI or similar digital out port - support - on N900. IF this is hte RX-51, what is the next RX model to debut and when??
The screeen of the N900 is perfect. Please read the comment to that Video: the screen flickering is my old TV! (not beeing in sync with my digital camera videomode...)
For one, there is no "being in sync" to be done with a digital camera and a cathode ray TV. If you carefully read my response you'd noticed I mentioned HDMI which meant an output for a digital TV. I'm aware of the reason for the flickr - it doesn't mean the reason makes it more pleasant. Glad you showed this off, and I'm not sure a few jumps where from the device or the TV. Non formated MicroSD cards having video on previous Nseries display the same issue on video playback on TV-out.
I'm curious what you mean by "camera to TV" vs straight to it? Camera is recording what is displayed on the TV. N900 is a smartphone connected to the TV duplicating its display on it. Why would the camera need to be directly connected to the TV? I may be misunderstanding what you meant ??
Hey guys, we are making a community for "Maemo Nokia N900". And the best place to be a part of it is at "maemo-nokian900(.)com" .... Do sign up.. and lets make this thing big
Sadly I think that may be pushing the envelope a little too much lol
Course, if it was an open source game then perhaps...there are loadsa games from around that era that could run...Wolfenstein, Halflife 1 (uses modified Quake engine), etc. etc.
Its just they ain't open source :( so are illegal to recompile.
You can use the hardware keyboard, or soon a HID driver to use a Bluetooth Mouse too.
Better than the iPhone on 2 counts;
1) This is running at native 800x480, not 480x320
2) IIRC you need a jailbroken iPhone for this, right? Nokia aren't going to stop your phone working for running this. Like Apple do.
Don't get me wrong, the 3GS is a GREAT bit of hardware (similar to N900), nice UI etc but you can't access the filesystem, install what you want etc. Plus Linux appeals to me.
cheater!!!
Bazylmiszcz93 4 months ago
Dam that's fast..my n95 takes like a minuite or so
Can't wait to get my hand on this 2mrw
metalheadblues 5 months ago
Now all we need is:
Maemo 5+Android+Nokia N9 specs and appearance and BOOM, WE CAN SAY:
SUCK MY PRICK !!! IPHONE 5 !!!! :))
jstoryxable 6 months ago
YOU ARE NOOB THIS IS AIM !!! low....
VespidaeGaming 11 months ago
quake with no mouse? fuck this who wanna play like that
juodaj 11 months ago
quake with mouse? fuck this who wanna play like that
juodaj 11 months ago
@juodaj you can play it with mouse if you want. must be bluetooth one tough
Ubern33b 1 month ago
Where can I download it please?
SebX4 1 year ago
aim hack?
REVOLTAR53 1 year ago
@REVOLTAR53 Auto-aim, its not a hack :)
dragonny4master 1 year ago
Gameplay on that seems really awesome... NOT :D Why even try something like this on a phone? Its not meant to be played like that.
Nejotus 1 year ago
cheater!!:D
ugnius10 1 year ago
"Don't hurt me" mode ;)
kufel99 1 year ago
IPhone !!!
bengoro7 1 year ago
Was the n900 overclocked? Also is openarea related to this game? cuz they look similar..
ankitpasi1 1 year ago
Look, and people still saying that Iphone is better. This machine is the best thing ever made... well, Nokia is King!!!
Maurody 1 year ago 5
@Maurody I AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n900 and galaxy s2 are tha best devices EVER! between n900 and galaxy s2, I prefere n900 cuz you can more things than galaxy, so n900 makes tha rules, bro!!! \m/
aruxandeicosmin 3 weeks ago
@aruxandeicosmin yes! I have N900 and i love it!! is beautiful as my girlfriend hahah. no seriously, after n900 Nokia n9 is really good. and obvviously Samsung galaxy II is impressing. Remember the nokia lumia 800 with 1.4 ghz processor wow! hehe Nokia is King and Father!
Maurody 3 weeks ago
So at this rate, in 8 years, we will be able to run Crysis on phones.
YouHaveMetYourMaker 1 year ago
@YouHaveMetYourMaker u can do it on the iphone lol
search crysis on the iphone
zawette 1 year ago
@zawette what your leaving out is the fact that the game will be played over the net and not directly using the phones capabilities. Besides that the iphone is garbage. always has been always will be. you should have read a bit farther in that search you did.
ourtruth2069 1 year ago
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YouHaveMetYourMaker 1 year ago
Looks preety kickass and smooth. I can't wait for my N900.
tarikay93 1 year ago
My old n95 8gb runs it verry well
kocag 1 year ago
i wud like to see starcraft on this device wud be so awesome!!!
snuski 1 year ago 2
@snuski BIIIIIIIIIIIIIG thumbs up on that one. starcraft's native resolution was like 600x480 or something, pretty close to the n900's 800x480. should look pretty damn cool. micro-management may suck juuuuuuust a little, and they'd have to work out a way to transfer the classic left-click select and right-click attack/move into a stylus tap ..hmm. and of course blizzard would probably deny any sort of maemo port; probably why it hasn't already happened :( we'll see.
BrEnNo1023 1 year ago
@BrEnNo1023 it acctualy has been done in the name "stratagus" youtube it or google, i read on their homepage yesterday that they stoped uppdating it and are focusing on "bos wars" based on the stratagus engine.
snuski 1 year ago
@snuski hooooooooooooooly...i'm looking at a youtube video of it now... it's actually now called 'strategy gaming engine' now in the app manager...and i've downloaded it and NOW i need to figure out how to get (add? download? install?) starcraft ON my n900 RIGHT now!!!
I'm...excited XD
but where does it go after you install it? 0.0 i'll check out the maemo site..
BrEnNo1023 1 year ago
@snuski actually scratch that, it doesn't work. not only can i not get stratagus to work (i can't even find it in my n900 after i install it) but i have no way to launch stargus after i put it into my SD card. it's not worth the effort. maybe if there was a step-by step tutorial with the RIGHT instructions (some instructions that actually make sense and actually work when i follow them)...i'd give it another go, but until then... grrrr computers -..-
BrEnNo1023 1 year ago
@BrEnNo1023 yeah dude ive been trying to find a step by step tutorial but dont seem to find any that works kinda disapointing :( but if u find anything hook me up will ya?
snuski 1 year ago
@snuski i was looking last night, the best one i could find was this w ww(.) nokian900applications (.)com / starcraft-for-nokia-n900 / (remove brackets and crap -.-)
but it failed for me, the link to the stratagus version 0.1-4 download the site provides is broken...and the instructions are completely out of date too because there's a new version (stratagus 2.2.2.5 or something) in the app manager. i dunno..give it a go i suppose, it didn't work for me so i gave up.
BrEnNo1023 1 year ago
@snuski also the comments on that page say that there's bugs where units clip through each other and walk over water, dont recognise barriers and the enemy AI is a vegetable..it sounds crap compared to the PC version. meh.
BrEnNo1023 1 year ago
+1 3gs better
firesmoll 1 year ago
@firesmoll N900/920 owes 3gs and 4gs. Smoke on that.
forgewire 1 year ago
Is it possible to play this game on the n900 with a controller like a ps3 controller?
skogzor 1 year ago
Hey, can I strafe using the touchscreen too? I want to see some action strafing, aiming and jumping with just the accelerometer and the touchscreen.
cfgauss 1 year ago
Naja, erinnert mich an alte C=64 Zeiten... ist ja nichtmal AMIGA QUalität... tztztz.. auf meinem N900 wird nur QUALITY installiert (worauf ich noch immer warte).. :(
Leonardo3400 1 year ago
Aim!
helloladies12345678 1 year ago
rly.
bagfinder 1 year ago
N900 is a computer with phone runs with Linux Iphone is a smartphone only works with apps which you can not customize or emulate anything no need to compare n900 and new HTC with Iphone they are clearly better in everyway 4g may be better but still it won't be a computer phone unless they change it's system
4rchdru1d 1 year ago
OMG i remember this game! I used to play it on PlayStation 2 like 6 years ago or something :P
IJustOwnz 1 year ago
on mp sux but 4 fun nice 5/5
kobra0090 1 year ago
one question, how do you quit the game?
seasondyes1990 1 year ago
@seasondyes1990 Ctrl+Backspace.
UnleashTehNoob 1 year ago
try mouseaccel in the console
KoN312 1 year ago
Why are there so many trolls on youtube? This is cool, regardless if its better on a pc or not. Every video I read comments on has ppl arguing with each other over ridiculous inane points. :( Sad user is sad....
Theismisacrime 1 year ago 3
did he died?
nutzw1 1 year ago
why the hell the target just follows tht guy :-/
ghenmokai 1 year ago
where can you download this ?
niftrik17 1 year ago
tv out is half way workin on my tv. its a samsung T240HD. it comes up really fussy and it black and white. and the sound is not workin either. my xbox works fine on the same connectors. is there somethimg wrong with my tv out cable or my n900????
please help
ilovemaryam08 1 year ago
maybe you have the cables wrong ?
NarowAR07 1 year ago
i play q3 on e90 with bt mouse
krzyslavv 1 year ago 2
It is using .qvm files or standard Linux shared library link files (.so) ?
EliteJadenKorn 1 year ago
i have quake on my n900 and its ace! one question tho, is there a way of getting to the main menu so i can exit propperly during game play because i have to force shut down if i cant be arsed finishing the game? i'm sure theres a way.
Thanks
natedog400 2 years ago
This needs a mouse and some keys. But otherwise: EPIC WIN! :D
I bet the N900 does support Bluetooth input devices.
Imagine the possibilities!
Evi1M4chine 2 years ago
generaly n900 is better than iphone
huss211 2 years ago
ummm . . . ya think????
MreBanza 2 years ago
iphone is just for gaming
n900 is complete phone ;D
huss211 2 years ago
I don't say that iPhone is better than N900(Camera sucks, browser doesn't support flash, it hasn't keyboard, flash, VGA camera etc.)But as gaming device iPhone is much better
proskaaa 2 years ago
The nokia port is bette than the iphone's port. Currently the iphone's port is incomplete, but yes, the current fastest iphone 3GS/iPod Touch 3G does run it better.
I have both the iPod touch 3G and Nokia N82 running quake 3. I still prefer my n82.
If only they could make the controls for hte iphone quake 3 similar to the game Sandstorm or Nova (with a virtual joystick to move and using your finger to look around)
mikeeey1337 2 years ago 3
The N900 port is also incomplete.
.
However, porting linux games (or ports) to N900 should be much simpler and straight forward than porting to iPhone.
The NES, SNES, GB, GBA emulator are working quite well on N900. The MAME emulator is also working on about half of the games I've tried.
And there is NDS emulator is being made. That would make it a very good portable gaming device.
All without any kind of jailbreaking required.
mcdull2000 2 years ago
are the iphone games just like the ipod games if yes u could buy nokia n9oo as ur phone and ipod touch as ur gaming device
kaje675 2 years ago
@kaje675 iPod Touch 3G has same hardware as iPhone 3GS
proskaaa 2 years ago
Ahahahah please stop comparing far less powerful phones like the iPhone (even the 3G) or the HD2 with the N900, it just makes people with a little more knowledge than you laughing
torpedo4890 2 years ago
@torpedo4890 I just said that iPhone 3GS/iPod Touch3G runs it much faster.
proskaaa 2 years ago
Read twaelti comment.
The Iphone 3GS GPU is underclocked compared to the one of the Nokia N900, so I think it would be difficult for it to run something faster than a N900... Like all the Apple hardware: great to see, bad to run.
torpedo4890 2 years ago
iPhone 3GS and N900 have the same Processor! And they both have 600Mhz, not less not more.
aliancemd 2 years ago 3
@aliancemd We were talking about GPU, not CPU. Same CPU, but iPhone has a less powerful (downclocked) GPU, and the N900 got much more virtual memory (1GB of the N900 VS. 256MB of the iPhone). These things make the N900 far more powerful than the Apple thing.
C'mon guys you can't even try to compare the iPhone with the N900
torpedo4890 2 years ago
Nope, N900 has 256MB Physical Memory like iPhone and 768 Virtual Memory(Virtual is a lot more slower than physical). By the way iPhone's GPU is the same as the N900 GPU but iPhone has VGX that N900 don't have. I'm not an iPhone fan but u have to admit that they have the same specs. Here it's all about software, Apple are very good at that.
aliancemd 2 years ago 4
@aliancemd Please read carefully, I wrote Virtual Memory in my post, and yes, it is slower but still helps a lot (try to disable your PC's virtual memory and use only RAM, it will become just unusable).
I'll never admit a wrong thing: iPhone has slower Wifi (7Mb/s VS 10Mb/s of the N900), less GPU frequencies, less battery power, a sucking camera, less recording power, less virtual memory and less useful software (yes, I don't look at number of apps, I want useful apps).
torpedo4890 2 years ago
I don't use Virtual Memory on my PC :P. 2.5 GB it's enough to handle everything(not for server for sure). And the iPhone app store have awesome apps but Maemo is based on Linux so the ideea of Linux is all for free or open source so the awesome thing in Maemo is that all the apps are for free like in Linux.
aliancemd 2 years ago 15
@aliancemd and thats the problem!
we dont want free apps !
the itouch (the same os as the iphone) is best handheld , and the iphone
can run itouch games (unreal engine 3,street fighter 4, rage...) thats why the iphone is better
but i still like the n900 and im going to buy the n9
even if it dosen't have good games lol :D
zawette 1 year ago
@zawette And actually most of us DO want free apps. apposed to the useless apps for the iphone that cost. And no nothing that comes from apple is the best at anything. You are over hyping that garbage. It doesn't actually run any of those. they are ran through the net and just displayed on the phone. Any phone capable of surfing the net can do that.
ourtruth2069 1 year ago
@aliancemd Ops sorry I wrote Wifi, I mean HSDPA: iPhone has slower HSDPA and ABSOLUTELY NO HSUPA. By the way, iPhone browser has no Flash... No need to comment there. Just one last thing: no FM Radio and NO radio transmitter on the iPhone. Not informed about infrared, but I assume iPhone lacks of it.
torpedo4890 2 years ago
@aliancemd I've forgotten the screen resolution (800x480 VS 480x320) and sensitivity (resistive is less funny and has no multitouch but FAR MORE sensible than capacitive). Little question for an iPhone: ehi you, have you ever heard about a thing called MULTI TASKING? I guess NOT. Maybe I'll let my N900 explain to you.
torpedo4890 2 years ago
Yes, N900 have to process 384k pixels but iPhone just 153,6k that changes the things a lot and iPhone's noncapability to multitask(he actually can multitask, music+program running is multitasking) makes it faster than a multitask device. And no, Capacitive is A LOT more sensible than resistive.
aliancemd 2 years ago 4
@aliancemd You are making mistake. iPhone's GPU (PowerVR SGX535) is more powerful than N900's. It makes 28polygons/sec. What about N900's PowerVR SGX 530?
proskaaa 2 years ago
@proskaaa Wow, there is a lot of nescience here. Well, actually iPhone's GPU COULD do 28 Mpolys/s, but it's clocked by default to 7 Mpolys/s. Why? Because iPhone doesn't have a battery that could support such a powerful GPU... What about N900? It has a 14 Mpolys/s GPU, clocked to 14 Mpolys/s, which means that actually an N900 has double power respect to an iPhone 3GS.
Last thing: iPhone's "multitasking" is not real multitasking, even with ProSwitcher.
torpedo4890 2 years ago
@torpedo4890 Why do you think it's overclocked?Just look at iPhone games. Quake 3 for example is much faster and looks better(~40FPS vs ~20FPS). Why Proswitcher isn't real multitasking?! There are ~5 apps(WebBrowser, ICQ, Vocabulary, iPod, BookReader, Proswitcher etc.) that are constantly opened on my iPhone and it isn't limit.
proskaaa 2 years ago
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Firstly, stop talking nonsense. Secondly, the multitasking on the iPhone IMMEDIATELY becomes REAL MULTITASKING when you install ProSwitcher. With the 3GS, you can open a tonne of apps and leave them backgrounded.... <- that is REAL MULTITASKING.
Next, you have no understanding of virtual memory. It is a backup for things that don't have enough physical RAM. I have 12GB of RAM (tripple channel DDR3) in my comp which means I can turn off virtual memory and my comp will run fine.
gamingpro12 2 years ago
@gamingpro12 Ahahah, this demonstrates that you cannot even imagine what real multitasking is. You think that just leave an app in background is multitasking? With my N900 I can listen to music, track my GPS position, share images on Facebook, read music lyrics, be avaiable on Skype, be connected to Internet, be connected to bluetoth stereo headset. All together and in just one desktop (using widgets). THIS is multitasking, background is for iPhones.
torpedo4890 2 years ago 5
Lol. I couldn't care less if you can do it all at once in one desktop (hmm?) on the tiny screen. Infact I can do everything you can as well.. and when the apps are backgrounded, they are still running (tracking GPS position with the navigon app, bt headset connected, ipod running, facebook, msn and skype alerts, etc). Be connected to the internet? I can download with safari download manager, minimize, do something else, come back and its finished. You really have a weak argument going on here.
gamingpro12 1 year ago
@torpedo4890 Same on iPhone
proskaaa 1 year ago
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why do i want to do that on a phone ? i have a pc for that, a phone is for making calls...jeez you guys are so addicted that you cant leave your applications at home ? lol fail
sesamestreetsquad 1 year ago
@GamingPro12: yeah yeah.. you install proswitcher or whatever shit it is... it would be still a FAIL :) iphone is yet to include native support for file sending via BT, flash, etc. which is ancient technology for the most of the phones out there. LOL! nokia rocks! \m/ =P nothing personal :)
6zaikko9 1 year ago 3
@aliancemd I used "sensible" instead of "precise", sorry. Just wanted to focus on the fact that iPhone is precise in an area of 1 cm^2, while an N900 far less (I think less than 1 mm^2). And, again, iPhone has not multitasking at all, because it would drain its battery a lot.
PS: I've 3 GB of DDR III running at 1333MHz actually, but my system uses Virtual Memory and works better. Virtual memory is needed for multitasking...
torpedo4890 2 years ago
By the way, you said you had 3GB of RAM in your comp... LOL... I can tell you now that, that is not enough and it's no wonder why you need virtual memory. My windows already hogs up 1.5 GB (Windows 7) of ram, then when I load up an intensive game, thats another 1.5 - 2 GB of RAM gone. You computer doesn't have enough RAM, thats why it needs virtual memory on your harddrive to survive. Virtual memory does not make things better, it's there incase you run out of physical memory.
gamingpro12 2 years ago
These are targeted @torpedo4890
gamingpro12 2 years ago
@torpedo4890 My iPhone has multitasking. it's made by ProSwitcher(search on youtube).
proskaaa 2 years ago
@torpedo4890 1GB RAM will not make this game faster because it eats just ~70-100Mb on max graphic settings) And it's faster on iPhone because it's GPU makes 28mpolygons/sec (that is main GPU characteristic) vs N900's 14 mpolygons/sec
proskaaa 2 years ago
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3GS runs this map at ~40FPS on max graphic settings.
proskaaa 2 years ago
Of course - pretty much the same hardware, but only 154 kPixelsi the 3GS vs. 384 kPixel on the N900. So the N900 pushed 2.5x more pixels than the 3GS.
That's like comparing VGA (640x480) to XGA (1024x768) :-)
twaelti 2 years ago 60
@twaelti owned
girass 1 year ago
@twaelti *Reply to 5 month old comment*
Its more like saying you run a game better because you run at 60fps on low while i get 30fps on max settings
(On any game)
Gearsguy405 1 year ago
@proskaaa pretty sure you just got owned.
heloimutube 1 year ago
@proskaaa owned lol
aljelje 1 year ago
@proskaaa ur comment make no sense. u cant compare 2 different screen resolutions.
hippievogelei 1 year ago
@proskaaa Yeah Proskaaa. So shut the fuck up, in other words lol.
McTurbo1300 1 year ago
Where are shadows in the game?
Cwelle007 2 years ago 2
za niedlugo w counter strike pogramy na telefonach heh
Rybsson 2 years ago
The HD2 only has 256 MB of usable RAM. The problem with the HD2 is that HTC have a habit of not giving out proper GPU drivers. And while the HD2 has a 1 GHz snapdragon, it doesn't use the ARM A8 architecture. ARM A8 is almost twice as fast as ARM7 clock for clock.
0iii0iiiii0 2 years ago
it actually has 448 mb RAM
Shark1995 2 years ago
In total yes. However, only 256 is available to any single application. This is because the rest is dedicated to background processes such as Sense UI.
0iii0iiiii0 2 years ago
Has better processor but n900 has 1gb of ram hd2 448
XIRONTIGERX 2 years ago
Dude, the HD2 has 448 RAM + 512 ROM which is close to 256 RAM + 768 ROM of the N900. But the HD2 has a 1Ghz Processor and it also has dedicated graphics. So it should definitely run on the HTC HD2
Shark1995 2 years ago
@Shark1995 rom isn ram rom is for files folders music ect ram is memory used for open applications
XIRONTIGERX 2 years ago
Alright, but still the HD2 has more RAM than the N900, but the N900 has 256 mb RAM and 768 Flash memory. And still, the HD has better processor
Shark1995 2 years ago
@Shark1995 aint flash its called virtual ram like ram but from hard drive overall hd2 has more actual ram 448 vs 256 but + 768 virtual used when its out of actual ram.
XIRONTIGERX 2 years ago
Well, the actual game doesn't require more than 256 on the PC. And the 1ghz processor should help a lot.
Shark1995 2 years ago
How does it havr more ram n900 has 1gb 256+753 of virtual ram also n900 has dedicated gpu
XIRONTIGERX 2 years ago
Is there a way to port this on the HTC HD2? SInce it has more RAM and better processor than the N900, I think it won't be a problem
Shark1995 2 years ago
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i have this on my iphone :p
iphonehacks0r 2 years ago
the n900 is the best smart phone on earth!!!
kasparas95 2 years ago 5
were can i get this awesome game and how many does it cost??
mcmars585 2 years ago
how to launch it?
iC00Ler 2 years ago
good tech demo but i think its too hard to play,
even without a tv, cause of the accelerometer controls the n900 seems more to be a controller (Wii, or a gamepad)
does it support online multiplayer?
CowboyFromFarbeyond 2 years ago
im gettin sore eyes watchin all this flickering, get a new cam dude! lol
still a nice video, wud be cool if u cud play counter strike on it lol
360NextLevel 2 years ago
I think after 5 years we can play counter strike and other games for pc on mobile
rawux1228 2 years ago
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erm, it would be possible to play counter strike on n900 if someone ported it on n900.
dawchiks 2 years ago
best game ever
loveSc7 2 years ago
is it possible to assign a "classic" control scheme?
like you aim by sliding the stylus on the screen, as you do on those nintendo ds-shooters and control movement with the keyboard?
murfad 2 years ago
This Kicked iPhones Ass! At Least i Agree! And im a 4 Year iPhone User! iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS
TeamBrownBox 2 years ago 2
how can you be a 4 year iphone user when the iphone(2g) was released something like 2 years ago;3G a year ago;3Gs about 5 months ago?
migzomgwtf 2 years ago 2
It must be 4 year old user :D
ccsatan 2 years ago
tutorial on how to put this game please?
franny87 2 years ago 3
an awsome phone with an awsome price :)
fener97 2 years ago
can i run in the game not by moving the entire phone because i'd like to press the keyboard buttons? cuz ist so freaking unusual to me)
DiGgeRcristalRecordz 2 years ago
nice job! haha
DustyWii8 2 years ago
Holly Crap i want this "PC" ))
VeryCoolMax 2 years ago 2
Oh snap,epic pwnage!
LuciusMare 2 years ago
people just said "5800 will be iphone killer!" and ...meh people just forgot it. but i think this might be it if there are apps for "young people" but nokia has bit business reputation so "hip" people won't be first thinking this phone
uberiballo 2 years ago
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uberiballo 2 years ago
Fett!!
°|~Jo
videoamt 2 years ago
where did you download it ?
Cyxares 2 years ago
Thing 1month from now. You'll even be able to connect keyboards and mouse to this phone :D WIN!
DiemetriX 2 years ago
how? bluetooth? or you mean wire it together?
Argcz 2 years ago
Bluetooth :)
DiemetriX 2 years ago
I downloaded it and watched!Maan that's awesome!Nokia rulez the MOBILE WORLD
Iphone leaves much to be desired;)
someonedanya 2 years ago 4
why is video not working?
someonedanya 2 years ago
AWESOME!!!:)
someonedanya 2 years ago 3
and STILL faggot ass iphone fan will say "so!...its doesnt have multitouch!!!" lmfao fuck multitouch, who cares about pinching your pictures to zoom it...gay!
**haters flame here**
Oo3xLoO 2 years ago 10
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well imo its pure fail that nokia used outdated not-multitouch-enabled technology on this phone...i mean its gonna be quite expensive so they aswell might put there the best tech thats avalible...
than again, like you said...pinching pictures is not really important feature for me and id get this take this phone over iphone anyday...although i might not take it over android...im gonna have to wait for some serious reviews i guess
Argcz 2 years ago
res. screen is not outdated. just because its old u call it outdated? its only different and better for some people. can't use a stylus or gloves with a cap. screen. multitouch is overrated. say to each his own. ANDROID sucks in my opinion, it can't even display animated gif files, thats terrible. my old nokia (2001 model) can play those files. but like i said, to each his own. just wish iphone fanboys can open their eyes and pull away from the brain was. there are TONS of phones better...
Oo3xLoO 2 years ago 13
yeah my bad about that screen thingy...i looked it up and youre right..i just figured that since its not being used much in new phones it would sucks :] about that animated gifs, well i think for example android 2.0 navigation sw makes up for that pretty well ;] but maemo is really nice aswell..id love to have 'real' linux in my pocket ;] and about iphone fans...i totally agree ;]
Argcz 2 years ago
good to see mature ppl on youtube. mostly everyone on the internet are immature as hell. the android phone (g1) was OKAY. the battery was horrible. which is what worries me about THIS phone (n900). they say that its processor doesnt take alot of batt. power but still, its a huge screen. why couldn't they just use the same batt as n97? 1500mAh. but i guess they might be right on the money with the batt lfe, if not i'll just get one of those batt boosters from walgreens or w.e
Oo3xLoO 2 years ago
Capacitive would make some apps impossible to use. You need to remember that many apps meant for N810/N800 are meant to be used with stulys and there will be apps ported from linux that need that pinpoint accuracy that fingers can't give.
That said i want capacitive too and multitouch/capacitive will be reality with Maemo 6 like already announced by Nokia. Will see if capacitive comes before that. Would prefer capacitive, but still definitely going for N900.
tissot233 2 years ago 3
well i usually try to avoid stylus like rape by fatguy :( but than again it doenst seem like stylus is required for most of the apps on n900...what concerns me more is that a lot of apps avalible for wide spread and hyped out platforms wont be probably avalible for maemo...at least for some time
Argcz 2 years ago
Remember, an app not being present on Maemo does not mean there is no OTHER app doing the same thing.
vacakvacak 2 years ago
My N95 8Gb displays no flicker on TV out; again, its due to the TV being a CRT model. If it was TFT or Plasma, there would be no flicker.
MrDelGibbons 2 years ago
I remember when I first got this game, my pc would only just run it. Now it plays on a fucking mobile phone!!
someonesperson 2 years ago 6
Give this to an obese person and make them strafejump, they will lose weight rapidly.
sixide 2 years ago 3
Maemo 5 is based on Linux.
directrix1 2 years ago 10
linux rulz
xcause 2 years ago 5
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It's not linux. It's memeo 5
E90cashel 2 years ago
i think its possible to play with a mouse because the n900 can usb-host!
They should just program it...
vladok1994 2 years ago
playing on touchscreen SUCKS !, get a keyboard and a mouse, lol :D
kodred1337 2 years ago
Congratulations, you missed the point.
calrogman 2 years ago 2
mate could you check out whether quakelive runs on this? it should since it has firefox inside
Argcz 2 years ago
I know the screen doesnt have multitouch, but do the buttons support it touching in the same time?
32JSE 2 years ago
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The flickr on that screen SUCKS!!! if ONLY Nokia put HDMI or similar digital out port - support - on N900. IF this is hte RX-51, what is the next RX model to debut and when??
Jaggabone 2 years ago
the screen is only flickering because its a camera recording a monitor! Its not flickering in real life :D
MrDelGibbons 2 years ago 3
The screeen of the N900 is perfect. Please read the comment to that Video: the screen flickering is my old TV! (not beeing in sync with my digital camera videomode...)
twaelti 2 years ago
For one, there is no "being in sync" to be done with a digital camera and a cathode ray TV. If you carefully read my response you'd noticed I mentioned HDMI which meant an output for a digital TV. I'm aware of the reason for the flickr - it doesn't mean the reason makes it more pleasant. Glad you showed this off, and I'm not sure a few jumps where from the device or the TV. Non formated MicroSD cards having video on previous Nseries display the same issue on video playback on TV-out.
Jaggabone 2 years ago
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You suck!
eMiLpR0p 2 years ago
the flickrering is because of the "camera to tv" i bet this looks great looking straight to it
kantasspiros 2 years ago 3
I'm curious what you mean by "camera to TV" vs straight to it? Camera is recording what is displayed on the TV. N900 is a smartphone connected to the TV duplicating its display on it. Why would the camera need to be directly connected to the TV? I may be misunderstanding what you meant ??
Jaggabone 2 years ago
what i mean is that if you record with any camera from the tv you get flickering
kantasspiros 2 years ago
Hey guys, we are making a community for "Maemo Nokia N900". And the best place to be a part of it is at "maemo-nokian900(.)com" .... Do sign up.. and lets make this thing big
Great Video... Good insight...
maemonokian900 2 years ago
hey could i install quake 1 on this phone
kp996 2 years ago
ROCKET JUMP!!!!!
oCannabusdriver 2 years ago
You know what would be even more awesome? N900 running deus ex over wine. Think it's possible?
locusSol 2 years ago
Sadly I think that may be pushing the envelope a little too much lol
Course, if it was an open source game then perhaps...there are loadsa games from around that era that could run...Wolfenstein, Halflife 1 (uses modified Quake engine), etc. etc.
Its just they ain't open source :( so are illegal to recompile.
MrDelGibbons 2 years ago
Dude, google this: OpenArena. The quake engine is opensource.
melonfulanez 2 years ago
nope, never. Wine is x86 only, because Windows is x86 only!
Amebixfan 2 years ago
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Perfect!
Running same as the iphone does!
Accelerometer for walking and touchscreen for looking..
Am i right?
caiopeluso 2 years ago
You can use the hardware keyboard, or soon a HID driver to use a Bluetooth Mouse too.
Better than the iPhone on 2 counts;
1) This is running at native 800x480, not 480x320
2) IIRC you need a jailbroken iPhone for this, right? Nokia aren't going to stop your phone working for running this. Like Apple do.
Don't get me wrong, the 3GS is a GREAT bit of hardware (similar to N900), nice UI etc but you can't access the filesystem, install what you want etc. Plus Linux appeals to me.
MrDelGibbons 2 years ago 8
maaaan, i need one of these!
I got n95 8g, and quake III runs veeery nice!
Just watin the realease to buy one.
caiopeluso 2 years ago