Beth Tweddle - 2008 British Team Championships Bars:FIRST PERFORMANCE OF NEW ROUTINE May

[000nour000]

HOOOLY HELL FIRES!!!!!!

[NewMinako]

what's the point, Miller and Beth worked on a total different code. It's useless to compare them.

[millerowns]

She isnt even in the same league as Shannon Miller, by far the greatest ever bars worker in history to anyone who isnt retarded.

[twilliger123]

God you really are out of control, shut the hell up, Shannon couldn't perform half of those releases that Beth did!

[millerowns]

Shannon has an Olympic medal on bars and Tweddle does not. At the 92 games Miller won a bronze on bars. At the 2008 games Tweddle was not good enough to win a medal and only took 4th place. Nuff said.

[twilliger123]

but Beth has more world medals with her gold medal than Shannon ever had, so that counts for something...you're an over obsessed miller fan, go get your nose and face butchered like Shannon so you can look like a younger version of Joan Rivers and scare yourself to death when you look in the mirror, asshole!

[millerowns]

Shannon and Beth both have 3 combined World and Olympic medals on bars but both have 1 World gold and 1 of Shannon's 3 combined World and Olympic medals is an Olympic one whereas Beth did not ever get that. Thus Shannon > Beth on bars.

[twilliger123]

I agree with NewMinako, you're talking about two different codes of points and difficulty. The fact that you are an overobsessed Shannon fan just makes you look like the idiot you are...

[millerowns]

Difficulty always advances but you judge gymnasts by how they do in their own times. More difficulty doesnt mean the field is any tougher today, unless you are saying that the future fields will always be tougher than the present. The early to mid 90s gymnasts would be doing more difficulty if they were born 15 years later too.

The fact is vs atleast as tough a field on bars Miller had better medal haul overall in Worlds and Olympics than Beth as I explained. Thus she is better on bars.

[twilliger123]

Complete crap but you're entitled to your opinion. If you weren't an overobsessed Miller fan it might have some merit, but in your case it doesn't....

[Yuri92001]

Well ok to bring some merit to this conversation. I AM not a particular Miller fan on Bars. She was never too inventive if you as me (I like Chow better tbh). I also think that Beth should have medelled and that ALOT of gymnasts in the shadow of the bigs like Nastia and Fei gt the short end of the stick. HOWEVER to compare a gymnast today with a gymnast of yesterday always runs into trouble. With that being said I think that Shannon as an AA gymnast is more precise and overall better than Beth.

[twilliger123]

ummm, we're talking about bars specifically, NOT AA!

[Yuri92001]

Ujmmmmmmm I get that.

I am only bringing in a more objective poster here to bring up the point that you don't have to be a Miller fan to know that overall Shannon pretty much trumps her.

Thanks for inviting outside conversation....I will remember not to interrupt sheesh :P

[twilliger123]

Anyone who knows gymnastic knows Shannon was a better AA gymnast than Beth, that's common knowledge, I wasn't uninviting you, I'm just saying it's a mute point because it's already known. WTFever...

[Yuri92001]

K.....

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Perhaps then if moot points are being made and the shannon freak is gone that you shoud leave the comments section too. Who cared in thefirst place......only wanted to continue the "obvious train" you guys were riding on. don't have to jump on the ONLY person NOT making an argument here....

cyaz

[millerowns]

Even you admited Miller was robbed of winning the 92 AA to that ugly whore Gutsu.

[tombarnes123]

Ye nice one idiot, these days its much harder to get a medal in an Olympics or Worlds. Compare beths difficulty to millers difficulty...exactly.

[emmyjo720]

Great bars workers....Khorkina, He Kexin,

Luikin, Tweddle, Lu Li, Silivas, Kupets,

Yang Yilin , they are all better than Shannon Miller on bars....Someone that is that obsessed with Miller is beyond rational disscusion.... Nastia Luikin is far better that Miller ever was as an all round gymnast too and Shawn Johnson has more character and flare.... Semenova didn't medal either but she is still a fab bar worker..

[hp6hp7]

score/?

[ostentatiousvirtue]

Yuch.......

[SportyTedspam]

WOW, great stuff XD

[berryzluv]

Everybody who's a fan of Beth's...GO 2 the 2009 worlds! In the 02 arena. Can't wait!

[gawjus99]

thats was brilliant what score did she get ?? i wood b amazed if she didnt get a 10 !!

[ngh210]

i went to watch it her routine was amazing as you can see :D

[AMA1235410]

It sounds quite loud on the video, but the other girls on the British team and supporters from the clubs really get behind Beth and the girls its lovely to see it and be a part of it when you see it. I think it just sounds louder pitched with my not so great video recording lol x

[HJA1982]

Why on earth did those people think that screaming at her all the way through her routine would be helpful.

[willsbob123]

In my opinion, i think Beth's going to do soo well in 09! She said she's really looking forward to 09 Europeans and World's!!!

[ants2876]

This routine was way better then her Olympic finals routine. She would have won gold in Beijing with this performance.

[maestrolamonde]

Wow, she looked great on those bars! :)

Excellent vid!

[lrjs93]

coool, it is very noisy there

[radioplasterer]

I'm sorry but whenever I'm having a sly one off the wrist watching womens' gymnastics and the Tweddle comes on, I go soft almost immediately. Come on Beth, spend some money getting those gnashers sorted out.

[HJA1982]

That's exactly what I thought. She's how old and has never won a decent competition.... why doesn't quit.

[gymnastdory]

she was world champion... thats what i call winning a decent competition .. and european champion .. world cup champion! .. basically she has won everything except olympics!

[serenenz]

Tweedle was overlooked during Beijing even though her UB work has a high difficulty rating and I prefer it to some of the other gymnasts who medalled.  It's a shame that she never got any media attention. Especially over here in the USA where NBC ignored her. She won World Champ in 06 and Euro and many other competitions. I hope she sticks around a little longer. As for the "she is too old", Khorkina was 24 and still performing at the Olympics (3 times).

[NastiaLiukinFan]

That full twist tkatchev is now named the "Tweddle"??

[Darkangel127]

The full-twisting Tkatchev is named after Mohini Bhardwaj, the Tkatchev with half turn is called an "Ejhova" and the Ricna-half turn-Ezhova is called the Tweddle. I don't know exactly which skill is named after Beth but I've heard that this was an original combination.

[margittarget]

so let me get this right...that happened under the same force of gravity that I'm experiencing right now? I don't get it.

[minisaz101]

Lol. :)

[nastia1030]

this is a really hard routine, but she's definitely going to need to clean up her form if she wants a chance at beating Nastia or He in Beijing.

[AMA1235410]

no its down in Guildford which is in Surrey

[mishyxx]

is this in Cardiff?

[xgymnasticsxcrazyx]

why is it that alot of gymnasts only make one transition to low bar wheres beth makes quite a few??

[AMA1235410]

depends on what your defintion of artistry is on the uneven bars I guess!

[rileywatts]

tricks tricks tricks tricks that's all it is..where is the artistry?

[pottergirl7]

one of my friends is related to beth and she got me her autograph and a note that told me to keep going with my gymnastics. she is really nice :)

[AMA1235410]

check my video response for Beths new addition to her bars exercise. This routine was filmed two weeks ago at the end of June

[AMA1235410]

well beth has added a full turn in to increase her a score still more, the pak is still a likely addition which she not included as yet, oooooo Beths competitors are going to have to watch out

[wg1989]

what is the a score for this routine?

[cityboyz1uk]

Yaaaay! We love you Beth!!

[AdamLake1]

thats bloody fantastic!! shes really gotten great!!

[elisabetanistor]

oh my god ! that was really great ! Gold for Beth in Beijing please !

[kattydelin]

how old is beth now?

[isa1285]

she's 23

[boytoyville]

Such a smart routine avoiding a lot of handstand deductions. She actually does have a shot at the gold with this routine!

[usagurl14]

Wow that was awesome! Looking forward to seeing her in Beijing.

[ilovetotwirl123]

wow that is amazinggg! i dont do gym but i love to watch it :)

[AMA1235410]

From an announcer at the gb vs rom event this weekend

[Giulyx14]

Is Beth Injured now???

[AMA1235410]

Beths score was 16.450 in Romania

[gymnstarz]

thanks how did u find that out?

[gymnstarz]

does anyone no what beths bars score was in the comp in romania

[AMA1235410]

Beths A score here was 7.4 and I think we will see it increase. She isnt competing against Romania this weekend, but maybe we will see her against Italy next week, then championships the week after!! her execution is 2nd to none.

What are your thoughts on Nastias exercise. I thought her on bar work was superb but she is going to get absolutely hammered for that dismount in Beijing if its not performed any better

[can1052]

yeah, Nastia always seems to run out of gas when it comes to her dismount. I'd almost like to see her do an easier dismount, take the lower A score, and stick it to avoid landing so low.

[irisgymnast]

Forgot to say that it was a very nice routine!

[irisgymnast]

What was her score here?

[gymnstarz]

16.650

[havarahel]

omg. this routine is huge! what is her A score?

[AMA1235410]

I think we all know that if Beth would have hit her new combination at Europeans she would have won the mistake she made was costly and took her out of the medals!

[czucksk84life]

my olympic podium:: 1- he, 2- nastia, 3- beth. Ksenia who?

[smiFromBelarus]

LOL, yeah right, She cant even beat Ksenia at Euroes.

[czucksk84life]

true..poor beth

[Tkachev562]

She had an easier set, and made a costly error at Euros!

[IlaNastia4e]

Oh yes :) I agree!

But I would love 1-nastia 2-he 3-Beth

[llyssalu]

2-he? who is he

[Lawziie]

he kexin?

[Lawziie]

that was a reply to llyssalu lol

[smudge2811]

you know i think that Beth may just be able to hit a good, clean routine at Beijing. I really hope she just get into teh finals though. One small error and i think she's out of it! I want her to make teh floor finals aswell...which i think she can if she hits! (: GOOD LUCK BETH !!

[AMA1235410]

I think you are going to be so surprised with Beth she would have retained her 2006 world title if not for an extra swing before her pak likewise at europeans she would have won.

The audience at Euros loved her routine (its going to be an audience pleaser) Beth is continuing to add difficulty to her exercise her routine att the moment doesnt contain the Pak and she is working on adding back her ono if she competed this before the Markelov her difficulty rating would soar upwards.

[FireDannyAinge]

Be afraid people. Be very afraid. Beth Tweddle has had the best b score at the last 2 world championships. Can you say Gold medal Nastia? China?

She will have to fix the one mistake but woo whooo.

Go Beth

[smiFromBelarus]

Ususally her B score is only 2 tenths ahead at the MOST. Her A score is 3 thents behind so I still dont see her medalling. Not with 3 7.7's and a 7.8.

[FireDannyAinge]

You are ignoring the fact that sense Nastia upgraded her set her form and mistakes have gotten worse. Beth's have not. Nastia's deductions will be huge if she completes this routine as badly as she did at scam cup.

[smiFromBelarus]

Nastia may be loosing a little more in B score but if she can compete an 8.0 A score in Beijing there is no way Beth could make up the defeceit, she would have to get around a 9.9 in B score. NO WAY can beth surpass a 8.0, a 7.8 and two 7.7's one would have to fall in order for Beth to medal, but an 8.0 with a fall could still beat Beth. Also we dont know what other surprise upgrades on bars we will see form others.

[SimonEigo]

nice ! but its not that good exercise optical but very good exercised!

[nikirififo]

Goodness!

I loved her new routine!

O_O

That combination Ray (half) + transition (half turn) is just amazing and beautiful

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[gymvet3]

loved this routine!

[AMA1235410]

Her A score on beam was not upto full difficulty for instance she only performed a double twist dismount. On floor Beth finished with a 2.5 straight front rather than her useful full twist and had to count n out of bounds on her opening tumble of 1.5 through to double arabian. I will upload today so you can see :-)

[gymnstarz]

does anyone no why beth didnt score very well on beam and floor?

[gymtastickt]

She only did a double twist dismoutn off beam, and I'm not sure if she would have got her acro series...just a little tentative! floor just had big steps and OOBs if I remmeber right, not as crisp as Euros by a long way!

Katie x

[josylujan]

caraio O.o

[smiFromBelarus]

7.4? that will still leave her out of the medals.

[ClayBabe6]

not necessarily, he kexin, the other chinese (can't remember her name), and nastia liukin are all at 7.7 but that's it above her, so who knows, she can still do it...

[yangyiba]

I think you mean " Yang Yi-Lin", who is the other Chinese girl you mentioned. Besides, she is a AA athlete with high enough A points to grab a medal in OG.

[ClayBabe6]

yes, that's her! i didn't feel like looking her name up, haha, but i think jiang yuyuang has her in aa.

[smiFromBelarus]

Thats already 3 people with 7.7's not to Mention Semyonova who is working on a routine with 7.9, I also heard Nistor was upgrading, I dont think Beth can finish ahead of the Asians and Russians.

[ClayBabe6]

we'll just have to wait and see. this routine could be easily upgraded too.

[smiFromBelarus]

Not without turns and pirouettes which beth cant do!

[ClayBabe6]

she could add her pac back in though...

face it smi, i'll have a comeback for you. :) i'm not going to let your europeans always win. ;)

[smiFromBelarus]

Beth is European.

[ClayBabe6]

yeah but not russian, romanian, ukrainian, or any of those countries around there. she's english. :)

haha it's fun fighting with you smi.

[smiFromBelarus]

lol, you mean not EASTEERN european, well yes there is a big difference, the nice technique of girls like Nastia, Semyonova and Zgoba is higher than the animal like Movements of Tweddle.

[ClayBabe6]

i wouldn't count semenova as "nice" more "loose" technique (not that i don't like her bars), and tweddle just has way more power than the "eastern" europeans. haha. and zgoba is not going to place, i would love for her to, but not a hard enough routine and she hits it maybe once in a blue moon.

[smiFromBelarus]

What about Krasnyanska? I know her hit ratio is lower than even Zgoba but she is rumored tro be working on a 7.6 routine for Beijing.

[ClayBabe6]

oh i don't see that happening at all. she wouldn't be able to hit a 7.6 routine, let alone the one she has now. i wish she could though, her german giants are amazing!

[Darkangel127]

I'm not gonna even bother answering when it comes to Beth, because I really like and respect her for singlehandedly putting GB in the gymnastics map. Instead, I'd like to ask you about Ksenia's and Irina's upgrades: are they just rumours? What are they planning to do? I've seen Ksenia connect her Deltchev to the Pak but I don't know how that affects her A score. I'd love to see an upset in the finals, say Krasnyanska medalling. She's by far my favourite UB worker when she hits.

[smallsoph]

I train in the gym with beth and just to let you know she can turn and pirouette i think she has just the same chance as anyone at beijing

[smiFromBelarus]

If she can do it in the gym why doesnt she do it in competition!

[smallsoph]

She hasnt needed to. If you can win the world championships without them then why not!!

[smiFromBelarus]

She won a world championship because Nastia was injured... not to mention she hasnt really won anything since, she didnt even get a bars medal at Euroes.

[GymHeath]

beth tweddle's bar routine has the same level difficulty as nastia liukins so it is who ever does it beter

[nayanartsha]

no nastias has 3 or 4 tenths more difficulty

[smallsoph]

If she hadn't made that slight mistake between her new connection Beth would have been in the medals and that was the first competition where she competed it

[FireDannyAinge]

Nastia had an ankle injury and her dismount was the least of her problems at that meet.

[Tkachev562]

AGAIN... she had a mistake!

[smiFromBelarus]

That is not excusable, she didnt medal, she wil probably have a mistake in prelims Beijing and stay out of the medals.

[Tkachev562]

HA! she made finals in Beijing smi!

[smiFromBelarus]

And what color was her medal Tkachev562?

[Darkangel127]

Nistor won't get anywhere near 9.0 for execution, unless she gets seriously overscored like she did last year at Worlds. Liukina has no chance of scoring higher than a 9.0 either, unless she fixes that dismount and I seriously DON'T get a 7.9 routine out of Ksenia (though I'd LOVE her to win bars!) Beth is definitely a force to be reckoned with.

[smiFromBelarus]

Yes she is a forced to be reckoned with liek a cow is a force to be reckoned with in comparison to some gaselles and flamingos.

[ferrerorocherrr]

haha that was funny... but mean :P

[tbc2006]

lovvvveee itttt!!!!BUTTTT.....i think she should do a toe on-blind healy into the markelvo-geinger combo(so one and a half twist instead of the blind)..scrap the regular toe on tkachev...and have toe on-full in to toe on tkackev...keep the rest...but do a double double dismount.

[xmaestro]

sicko Yezhova combo!

[AMA1235410]

I think Beth got heavily deducted on her turns in the past, and with it been so important to get the turns within 10 degrees of handstand its a big risk for her B score if the skill is past handstand. The additional difficulty a turn would bring woould not be worth the risk!

[bmoabxby]

thats kl! thanks for the reply! you mentioned earlier the potential for upgrades - where could she upgrade? and i also agree that she deserves a medal in beijing! i cannot wiat for ub final!

[djm71675]

the most obvious upgrade i can see would be to add the pak back in. if i were her coach i'd have her do: jump to high mount (like shawn johnson); tweddle-ezhova; kchs 1/2 turn-toe shoot to high bar; toe blind- khorkina-gienger; ray-pak; maloney-bail hs-stalder shoot to high bar; toe-full-tucked full out dismount...i think that routine would be out of a 7.6

[bmoabxby]

YAY!!! that was a great routine - at last some good upgrades so she can compete with the likes of liukin! :D she used to ahve lots of piruettes(sp?) in her routine - any one know if shes adding them back in to further increase her A score?

[smallsoph]

Woooo She deserves a medal in Beijing!!

[AMA1235410]

16.650!! I think the routine has much more it can offer in terms of potential upgrades. Beth doesnt perform the pak here and she is rumoured to be looking to add the Pak back to her routine. Go Beth she truly deserves every success

[illabrilla]

Wow! What was her finale score?

[produnov]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!! GO BETH!!!

[SonyaNatalia]

Wow, wow and wow.

I hope she takes home gold in Beijing over that underaged Chinese cheat.

[smudge2811]

wow thats well good!!!! i don't know she does it !

[AMA1235410]

its 7.4

[gymnstarz]

do u no what her A score is?

[smudge2811]

she's added another release again hasn't she?? it's a really good routine!

[myriaminukraine]

apart from the dismount that was a great routine from Beth.