liberalism defines Canada, liberalism made Canada great, liberalism is the coherent progressive and compassionate political philosophy of a true democracy. And when the liberal party of Canada embodies liberalism once again, they will get my vote once again.
I remember viewing both of these in December of 2008.
Who knew Harper would prorogue a 2nd time to avoid a Committee.
I rather miss Dion.... I think Canadians will reject buying into the Conservative attack ads.
I sometimes fear Ignatieff is worse than Harper.... I think the next Federal Election is going to look like the Canadian version of John Kerry vs. George W. Bush.
Canadian Politics seemed to be entering uncharted territory
If the PM with the permission of an unelected figurehead can stop the legislative process and save himself despite having lost the confidence of the house, there is definitely a problem with our constitution. On the other hand, when the House is not in session, the government is unable to do any harm to the nation for the time being.
Actually, the Conservatives never lost the confidence of the House as you claim. They have won each and every confidence vote held since coming into office 4 years ago. Also the PM doesn't need the 'permission' of the Governor General, in fact she is bound to follow his advice unless he actually loses a vote of confidence in the House.
On the other hand, Paul Martin DID in fact lose a confidence vote on May 10, 2005. Martin hung onto power for 9 months after that by bribing Belinda Stronach.
what a phony bastard, i guess its legal to clone humans now cause if my eyes was closed i would swear this was mike harris. fuck stephen harper and fuck the conservative party!
i dont hate quebec but i hate the way it is governed with seperatists who always complain... I think the proper way to run this country is work together rather than rely on these socialist and seperatst scumbags who do nothing but damage... The reason I endorse conservative is because i found it fits the best interests for this country and managing taxes... Could you imagine why it would cost so much for the taxpayers if the ndp got power? it would be devastating and even worse the seperatists
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Mr. Harper doesnt believe coalitions are un-democratic. In 2005 while he was in opposition he spoke publicly about the conservatives the NDP and (Guess who?) the Bloc forming a coalition if the liberals, couldnt form a majority of their own in parliament. Also, there are signed documents that proposed the formation of a coalition with The Bloc, Progressive Conservatives and Canadian Alliance back in 2000. Harper is a destroying Canada in order to protect his career. We must get rid of him,
They are a very unique culture and refuse to be overtaken by anyone, even English Canada. They are so unique they are almost their own nation. Now, they are officially their own country, within Canada. While I think that all payments to Quebec should be cut off, the Bloc Quebecois is a party that represents the interests of Quebecers, and should not be hated for that. Hating the Bloc Quebecois will not help Quebecers vote against separation if there is another referendum.
Even without considering their culture, Quebec is one third of all paper made in Canada, and is 7 million people. Also, it has huge natural resources and provides most of New York's power. In addition, most Quebecer's have forgotten about separation, and just get angry when the Bloc is called separtists.
d'un pays a besoin de faire un appel à la haine contre une nation (Québec une nation à l'intérieur du Canada ses propres mots) Cette nation qui a également contribué à bâtir ce pays.
Dans le but de refaire sa majorité les heures sont sombres pour ce pays ...
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AztecaQc, harper doesn't represent the majority of Canadians. Harpers hate mongering tactic are transparent to many of us outside of quecbec. We will not give him a majority! If I am wrong, I will agree with you, that these are indeed dark times.
of a country needs to make a call to hatred against a nation (Québec a nation within Canada his own words) A nation who also contributed to build up this country.
In Order to redo his majority times are bleak for this country ...
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Does anyone care!? Seriously harper is the most dull boring ass prime minister i just don't want to go to polls again and say i'm voting for his ass. Its all sooo gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Well either we bail out the lousy American car makers or we pay billions in unemployment and welfare to the thousands who will be out of work or we spend billions on policing and prisons to curb the enevitable crime wave as cash strapped broke people try to eat and live. Why not bail out Nortel- the unions have bargained themselves out of work, since they can't compete with better quality cars made by non unionized workers. GM and the lot have been making garbage compared to foreign cars.
zenncars, made in Canada but we are not allowed to purchase one. If I were the PM i could make this country the richest Country in the world. It would be so Simple. I would seek out all of our Canadian inventors. and invests in what ever they have. Made in Canada means nothing, it has to be Canadian owned right down to the patent. Building cars for other world corps. is only enslaving ourselves to the system. they get rich from our labour. Canada sells out its most valuable resource every time.
Yeah Billy, the corporations have plenty of power and they have hijacked our democratic, "for the people" gov't. If we don't give them huge tax breaks then they will just leave taking jobs with them, but hey they are already doing that.
Canandians have amazingly great ideas except we fail at marketing or breaking into the protectionist US market- they don't like outsiders despite NAFTA. One thing Dion was right about is research into creating new energy industries. The tarsands are toxic.
He was right about the carbon tax shift as well..it's a brilliant economic policy, and it disappoints me that Dion ruined it's legitimacy for the Canadian people..
Harper the hypocrite who he himself was going to work a deal with the Bloc to topple the Martin gov't.
There were reports that Harper's own advisers told him not to threaten to take away the oppositions funding- now the schoolyard bully has been knocked down by three weaklings.
If the opposition didn't form a coalition Harper would have been the Dictator of Canada since he was going to take away all public funding for the opposition which would've been their demise. Its too bad funding wasn't removed when the Conservative Reform Alliance Party (CRAP) was trying to get off the ground. Harper basically left the opposition no choice.
CRAP lol thats funny. AN Elected Dictator, thats funny to. Where do you get your information? Just research the facts Thats all I ask. Watch this video. watch?v=Vme2mRvn8aQ&feature=channel_page
Hey even Saddam Hussien, Robert Mugabe and Fidel Castro hold elections except they're the only candidate and that is what Harper would have guaranteed if he took away their public funding at this time- the Conservatives would be the only candidate.
PS the Canandian Conservative Reform Alliance Party was the initial name proposed for the Alliance party until they realized it was CCRAP.
Crap. This whole thing is crap thats for sure. No matter what we do or say here will not change a failed system long installed by the liberal government. I'm afraid that Steven Harper is to late. The crooks are gone with the money and left us here to die. And the drastic measures that Mr Harper would have to take to save Canada from its demise will only make him look bad. You have to look into the past scandals of the liberals and realize that this is a repercussion.
The failed system you whine about was installed by the fathers of Confederation and Sir John A. Mac Donald, a Conservative was the first Prime Minister. The federal system bailed out the Western provinces during the dustbowl depression when they couldn't make ends meet- if we were like Harper we would have finished them off for good and let them starve during that time.
The Tories lose more than any other party if they canceled the taxpayer subsidy of political parties because only the Tories they raise more money privately than they get through taxpayer subsidies. 65% of Canadians want these subsidies cut.
The opposition parties did have a choice - Over the last 5 years they could have worked to attract donations from regular Canadians instead of mounting pathetic partisan attacks, kangaroo courts and witch hunts.
Hey Billy I watched your video clip of the ignorant old coot who is completely ignorant of how the Canadian Parliamentary system of democracy works- is this to show me that you too are ignorant and believe the misinformation in that clip?
We do not elect a Prime Minister- where on the ballot does the PM's name occur? It doesn't- if the Conservatives wanted to tomorrow they could change the PM to whoever in their party they wanted to. The coalition was a legal move that forced Harper to respond.
Yes, I believe what he say's to be true, So get out your name calling vocabulary and let me have it. a coo, I believe he called them. This is all make believe any way's their all on the same teem at this point. I've watched my country turn into a fascist dictatorship over the past 44 years. I don't see Any of them working for our interest. entrusted to them we are the people. Everything they do is the opposite of what should be done. Im going to become a free man on the land. no more SN on me.
The "coo" he is refering to is a coup as in coup d'etat which is the illegal and unconstitutional overthrow of a gov't.
The coalition technically isn't a coup, it is the Canadian Parliament functioning as it was designed to when a minority gov't plays nasty- Harper planned to do the exact same thing with the Bloc against Paul Martin. It may not be a perfect gov't but its one of the best systems in the world.
Maybe you listen to too much Right wing radio-they do nothing but complain non-stop.
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Mister Harper has just closed parliament in the middle of the greatest economic crisis of our time in order to save his job. Mr. Harper doesnt believe coalitions are un-democratic. In fact, in 2005 while he was in opposition he spoke publicly about the conservatives the NDP and Guess who?... The Block Quebecois forming a coalition if the liberals couldnt form a majority of their own in parliament. At best, Mr. Harper is disingenuous and power hungry. The conservatives must get rid of him.
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I'll do you one better. The Bloc has just publically released signed documents that proposed the formation of a coalition with The Bloc, Progressive Conservatives and Canadian Alliance back in 2000 should Jean Cretien's liberals not win a majority (which they did). The conservatives are NOT so opposed to forming governing coalitions as Mr. Harper purports to be! Even worse, back then they wanted to support Stockwell Day as Prime Minister!:S
Harper closed parliament to give the coalition some time to fall apart.And guess what.The coalition IS falling apart.Dion just
got dumped.Ignatieff is going through the Liberal caucus to get elected denying tens of thousands of card carrying Liberals any say in who gets to lead the Liberal Party.Bob Rae is challenging Iggy's appointment.The NDP are
coming off as power hungry opportunists who don't give a damn about the country.
Harper and the Conservatives are on track to win a MAJORITY.
Fascism and Communism are not polar opposites, but are brother and sister on the left side of the political spectrum.
And just to illustrate my point, the other name for the Nazi Party was the National SOCIALIST German Workers Party. SOCIALISM, COMMUNISM, FASCISM, NAZISM are ALL left wing ideologies, and responsible for millions of deaths world wide.
So next time you call a conservative a fascist, remember in the back of your mind, YOU'RE most likely the fascist.
Mr kg988, you're right Fascism and Communism are not opposites but nor is Fascism and Capitalism. For that matter capitalism and communism are not opposites (think china). But mr. kg988 fascism is NOT a "left wing" ideology. In fact when fascists come to power the fist people the kill are most often the commies! In the political world of today the few people that call themselves fascist are allied with ultra nationalist and ultra conservatives, Berlusconi & Le Pen, to mention a couple...
Wow, what are they teaching in schools these days!
Fascism absolutely is definitely on the left, that doesn't change because a bunch of progressives call conservatives 'right-wing fascists'. You've been mislead.
Capitalism and Communism ARE opposites! China is a hybrid moving toward the open market system.
Sorry liberty4canada you're simply wrong. fascism is not a left wing ideology. Fascism is born out of reaction to the enlightenment and the birth of liberalism. The word is derived from a roman (latin) word that signifies power/authority. Fascist are concerned with power: might is right kind of thinking, similar to Realpolitik. I agree often people on the left unfairly call all conservatives fascist. However, neo-fascist overwhelmingly support conservatives not leftists. This is simply a fact!
Are you saying authoritarianism isn't left-wing? Here is a crib sheet for you:
LEFT - RIGHT
authoritarian - libertarian
people need to be govorned - people are free
group rights - individual rights
big government - small government
planned economy - free market
elitism - populism
entitlements - opportunities
Neo-fascists are called that BECAUSE they are on the right, not the left. Just like neo-cons who are actually left-wing authoritarians not right-wing libertarians. Ask Ron Paul.
That's a pretty slanted crib sheet you have there, liberty.
To continue with verybigcanada's reasonable language lesson, you're implying "neo" means something akin to opposite when it actually means new (as in a new form).
Neo-cons aren't left-wing authoritarians any more than neo-marxists are eager capitalists.
Besides, the left/right-wing scale (or dichotomy, as you're using it) is outdated anyway.
Very few people or governments are consistently either. It's basically just shorthand.
I know what 'neo' means. Please watch youtube video G0N0iqUiaTs to see what I am getting at regarding the neo-cons, I think you'll find I'm not the first person to see them as leftists. Nor am I the first to say fascism is on the left - but more likely it doesn't belong on the left-right scale at all. The dichotomy is a limited tool at best. Even so, those ideas belong where they belong, if anywhere. What exactly would you change?
@kg988 The reason why both the right and left sides of the spectrum are considered socialist is because they both have complete control over the working class. The left side by means of taxation and government controlled purchasing. The right side is where complete lack of market regulations leads an oligarchy to control the consumer class, because we work for them and also buy the stuff they sell. The right side is where Hitler is, but more so it is where all rich people are.
The liberals are a bunch of socialist/fascists now. I will never vote for them again! I've been realizing more and more that the Conservatives are more classically liberal than the Liberal Party. They actually believe in freedom, whereas the Liberals just want to take it away and tell you how to live and what to think. Kind of Orwellian....Comrade Dion, leave us alone!
No, YOU don't know what fascist means - it is a left-wing ideology, along with other authoritarian movements. Classic Liberalism is on the right, but don't be fooled by the Liberal Party who have been moving steadily to the left into social democratic territory. Right now the most liberal party in Canada is the Conservative Party.
Liberty4canada knows this mshacklady, why don't you? Don't you ever think for yourself instead of listening to every word the media says? Or maybe you've already succumbed to double speak and double think(that's from the book 1984, in case you didn't go to school). lol doodad.
Mshacklady, Maybe YOU don't know what fascism means. Fascism was defined by the Russian communists as ultra-right wing to make it seem different from communism. In reality, the Russians saw it as a competing, but quite similar ideology; which it IS. There is not much difference between communism and fascism, when you really look at it. Fascism is also the father/mother of what is now liberal progressiveness. Fascism is essentially a more nationalistic communism, hence the racist aspect.
So many are looking at this wrong. Voters didn't go to the ballots thinking "ok, I can either choose Harper or one of three of these other guys". Everyone assumes that a liberal who voted in the last election, will most certainly vote liberal in a conservative-coalition vote, but that's not necessarily the case at all - many who voted lib in the last election will likely vote conservative because they don't like ndp and they certainly dont like the block! Why do you assume so much?
You're very right! And that's the whole point. NOBODY VOTED FOR A COALITION. The opposition parties even promised they wouldn't form one last election....
Watch the youtube video "Stephane Dion rejects coalition with the NDP" where Dion says NDp economics are bad for the country. He said this just 22 days before the election and now this? Wake up?
Canadians had a choice of 4 parties, all fundamentally different - liberals, socialists, separatists, conservatives. They voted conservative! They didn't vote for a combination of parties! The house didn't lose confidence, they are afraid because Harper's economics are sound! If there is another vote, Harper versus the coalition, Harper will get in.
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the majority did not vote for harper. the house has lost confidence in his leadership. the legal course of action is the formation of a coalition government. what stephen is doing now is wasting our time. the majority do not support him. a coalition is what the majority want. the majority of the house members, and the majority of voters do not want harper.
Nobody -not one person - voted for a coalition government.The people who voted NDP voted NDP,just as the people who voted Liberal voted LIBERAL.Noooooobody voted for a 3 against 1 arrangement in government.
Ignatieff is making the move to take over as the leader of the coalition forcing Dion out and eliminating Bob Rae as a contender for the leadership.Iggy is set to pull off a coup within the coup. Making it a coup coup idea.
Iggy is every bit as foolish and conniving as Dion,Rae and Layton.
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Stephen likely won't be on the ballot. Too many Canadians hate him = bad for business. Steve dug his own hole attacking art and culture costing him his majority and then trying to bully his way into one the next election by undoing our democracy.
Thankfully the opposition stepped up and is doing it's job.
BTW, Harper's move to stop the attempted coup was every bit as legal as the formation of the coup.
It's a 'legal course of action' when your favored group uses a loophole against the standing government. But it's 'wasting our time' when the standing government uses a loophole to stall off your group's attempted coup.Your version of 'our' does not include the majority of Canadians,rachel.
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the majority of canadians did not vote for the removal of financial provisions that help parties grow, and make them less dependent on corporate influence. the majority of canadians voted for the party that did not take minority leadership. our constitution provides the house the ability to unite against a bad leader (that's there for our protection). the majority of canadians are not wealthy and our interest is not served by a government controlled by corporate support.
Our constitution provides the house with the ability to unite against a GOOD leader.The provision can also be used AGAINST us (the Canadian citizens) by power hungry parasites within the house who obviously couldn't care less about the state of the country.
The majority of Canadians can see the participants in the coalition exactly for what they are.Harper will be voted in with a MAJORITY in the next election and the NDP and the Liberals will be chiefly responsible.
The same rule that was put in place to protect us ( the Canadian people )is open to being abused by self-serving opportunists within the house.The rule has the capacity to HARM us ( the Canadian people )when it is applied in the wrong fashion by people within the house who are motivated by their political self interest and not the interest of the country.
Watch utube video titled "Stephane Dion rejects coalition with the NDP" where he says ndp idealogy is bad for the economy! it's clear he's a complete idiot and this is a power grab out of fear conservatives will continue to gain the confidence they've earned under Harper, due to keeping promises, eliminating GST and doing the best that can be done in this GLOBAL economic crisis. (while the libs try to blame the crisis on Canada particularly the conservatives- The whole coalition is assinine!)
Anyone who thinks liberals, socialists and separatists can come together to form ANYTHING united is out of touch with reality. This is a power grab because they don't like that conservatives are gaining confidence, as evidenced by the last vote, because they do as promised - examples funding to families with kids under 6, funding art programs to school age kids and lowering gst, which Chretien promised in his first 2 terms and couldn't manage to do in THREE!
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Yes Hyper I'm sorry. I will be the bigger person and stop. All I was trying to say was that a coalition is a common thing across the world. It is done not only with governments but with companies.
I will repeat myself: A minority government is essentially a coalition, which means that a minority government must operate a country with their opponents. The majority of Canadians asked for that. But, it wasn't done by Harper in the three years that he was PM.
There isn't anywhere near 25%,jon. A heck of a lot of NDP voters and Liberal voters are so disgusted by the coalition that they will stay home during the next election.They won't cast their vote for Harper because they're
anti-Conservative AND they won't cast their vote for their own party because they're sickened by their leaders' attempt at a coup.
Harper will end up with a majority in the next election and he will have the NDP and the Liberals to thank for it.
dion - "In Canada the government derives its legitimacy from an elected parliment, parliment elected by you..." He said it himself. The parliment is elected by the people. No one voted for a coalition government. All he is doing is sneaking himselve through the back door because he can't win in a fair and democratic election. If he thinks he can fool the Canadian people he is sadly mistaken.
the 3 stooges of parliament hill..what noble characters lmao..layton would sell his own mother to get power, Dion is weak & liberals are notorious for wasting/stetaling tax $ & is about to get thrown out of his own party, Duseppe is just out for Quebec...yeah what a bunch of winners to lead Canada, they couldn't lead a dog around for god sakes...the only ones supporting them are the ones looking for hand outs ie UNION MEMBERS...all about self interest & not the majority of the ppl in Canada
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coalition = great idea ... but it's just a cover for harper. when the economy breaks down, harper will come back in 2 years and say "look what the coalition did!" but really nobody could have stopped it.
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What do you call a minority government? Isn't it somewhat like a coalition? A minority government is supposed to work with the opposition to govern the country, because that is what Canadians asked for.
Did Harper do that? He didn't so it in his first mandate and he didn't seem to be willing to do it in his second mandate.
He was arrogant and showed no respect towards the majority of Canadians. The majority that asked him to work with the other parties.
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Who do you find creepier? Duceppe or Harper? Harper and his cabinet. Duceppe reminds me of the cop in the Terminator movies. Harper is just evil. The comments made by his cabinet he covers for are antihuman. For example the "death by a thousand slices of meat" remark when Canadians were poisoned by Maple Leaf Foods. People like you and me. Just wanted some cold cuts for a sandwich.
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Harper is accomplishing what the Bush administration did in the US. That is; dividing their fellow countrymen with a "for us or against us" mentality. If Harper loses his government, he has no won to blame but himself for picking this unnecessary fight. I can't believe that I voted for him. Dion doesn't seem as bad as some make him out to be.
The Liberal party was so long in power and stole so much money which also gave them the ability to install their people into the justice system, educational system that they even were able to shape society to favour them, once in a while giving something to the people to get votes.
HA HA HA HA HA we deserve this!!!! All you pundits probably "do your duty" every few years by voting, then you abdicate complete control to the politicians. NICE WORK BABIES!!!!
You want a coalition with LIBERALS that already has cracks in its own party.. that's one start that Canadians won't be able to handle. I rather have a majority of LIBERAL's or CONSERVATIVE's than any coalition.
Liberal supporters are planning to kick out Dion whereas he wants to be a PM. Now as a Liberal supporter who wants stability during these tough times, how can I vote my party when I know their leader is not wanted by his own party.
India, the world's biggest democracy had coalition govt's in past and you have to understand it is IMPOSSIBLE to convince all the coalition party. Whoever is supporting coalition should GOOGLE SEARCH the success.
Unfortunately we are in the soup. Economy is sinking GLOBALLY, so don't blame Harper.(BTW: I am a LIBERAL supporter). We need a leader who can sustain and any Canadian who has taken ECO 101 or ECO 102 knows very well that nobody can do that when its a global recession specially when our economy is depending on US to a great extent.
I know Harper is not the best but Dion is not even close. Layton.. forget it and Bloc, you gotta be .... me.
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Harper doesn't think a coalition is fair but was willing to form one with the Bloc 4 years ago. I'm a Conservative, but I'm sick of his bully tactics as well. I will no longer vote Conservative if Harper is the leader. Get rid of Harper, the sooner the better.
Letter from Harper to the Governor General in which he states:
"We respectfully point out that the opposition parties, who together constitute a majority in the House, have been in close consultation. We believe that, should a request for dissolution arise this should give you cause, as constitutional practice has determined, to consult the opposition leaders and consider all of your options before exercising your constitutional authority."
You're faulting Harper for his willingness to form a coalition with the Bloc 4 years ago to vote down a confidence motion from the Liberals but you don't have a problem with the NDP and the Liberals climbing into bed with the Bloc today, Ian. You weren't okay with Harper employing 'bully tactics' against them back then but you're okay with them employing 'bully tactics' against him now.
I'm non-partisan and I will be voting Conservative in the next election for the good of the country.
Yes,it was and is hypocritical.I was pointing out that the NDP and the Liberals are no better in that regard when it comes to 'bully tactics'.
If the Liberals had come to power with a minority government in the last election and the Conservatives and the NDP had aligned themselves with the Bloc to form a coalition to bring down the standing government I would vote Liberal. I will vote Conservative this time around because of what the leaders of the NDP and the Liberals are trying to do.
In Canada we have a constitutional monarchy which is a form of constitutional government.
Most constitutional monarchies have a parliamentary system and we share this system with Australia, Belgium, Denmark, Japan, Malaysia, Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, New Zealand, Thailand and the United Kingdom.
And it is a good thing that we do otherwise we might have been overthrown by a fascist coalition which KNOWS that in a fair & democratic election, they would never be voted into power!
Both Dion and Harper are Bilderburg bitches! It doesn't matter who the leader is, all the parties want total control because that is what is necessary to establish a fascist dictatorship in a pinko socialist country like Canada. Its the new world order agenda.
These laws have already been established in the United Kingdom and the USA. We are just holding them up here in Canada. We have to keep a majority government from forming as long as possible because once it does than thats it for us!
The production quality of Dion's response has more in common with Al Qaeda, cave based broadcasts than with the minimum production values expected from a coalition of Canadian federal parties. I am almost expecting for someone to reveal that a guest director was involved and then for that individual to be revealed as Chris Crocker.
I'm absolutely delighted the Three Stooges have been put back in the box of Crackerjack they sprung from.
One thing was very clear in the last election. Dion was voted most likely to nauseate. Ipso facto, he is better suited to life in a Liberal closet somewhere up-province entertaining moose, perhaps.
Did he think he could pull off storming The Hill, with Jack&Gille tumbling after him?
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If they get the coalition then they gain more power and if they do not get a coalition they gain even more power. Win Win.
Plus the fact that Harper cannot and will not revise his position on why he doesn't want this coalition to go through (Bloc support) makes this the best political move i've ever seen.
Harper Campaigns for you and pays for it out of his own pocket and you gain more support either way Harper plays it.
Make Duceppe Prime Minister he damn sure outplayed the rest of them.
Any minoritary government that planed to refuse mediation for salarial equity, and refuse to act to protect our economy and our jobs when we face a brutal recession deserve nothing but to be overturn by the opposition!
And any government who refuse to assume his actions in front of the Chamber of Commons, and denies Québec's voice deserve nothing but to lose power. And to face the strong opposition of my nation against these vile and irresponsible attacks against the Peuple Québécois.
Tu y crois encore toi en la fédération canadienne? Je voulais y croire avant, mais à avoir la réaction du canada anglais et les remarques ultra ''racistes'' qu'on peut voir sur les forums comme ici, je pense que le Québec et le canada c comme de l'eau et de l'huile... On est déjà séparés... Tu sais poukoi ca sert à rien d'esseyer de les convraincre de te respecter? Parce que quand ya un malade qui dit qu'on devrait se faire déporter, y'en a pas un qui lève le petit doigt.
À part pour l'argent, on a pratiquement aucune raison de rester dans la fédération canadienne. On ne fait DÉJÀ pas partie de la fédération canadienne (écoute Harper parler du Bloc)...
C vraiment cave de sacrifier une partie de notre liberté, et de se faire cracher dessus, juste pour recevoir un peu de cash...
WOW< LIBEAL NDO Lefties FASCISM!!! Wow, we are blessed to be living in such times! If the Coalition goes forth, it is the END OF THE DOMINION! FU&K YA! Watch out for ISLMAMOFASCIT meddling as well. Could get really bad fighting the Leftiei Liberal nwew Green Nazi's! HA
The end of the dominion, eh? You mean you people are gonna seperate and carve out your own homeland? Where? BC? We are as liberal as you can be here. Alberta? Good riddance, the federation doesn't need a frozen tundra that is pumping soon to be obsolete oil. Ontario? Ahhh...the NAFTA epi-centre...Obama will cancel the free-trade accord.
Neo-conservatism is all about control - UCLA & Berkley did a pathology study on the Cons - they are facists. Hitler was a neo-con and so was Bush.
If you don't think that western canada can't survive on their own, then you are saddly mistaken. The sooner we are rid of the parasites from the eastern provinces, the better off we will be. Good luck to the rest of you.
Rata4You is just one of those anti-white bigots. He uses "you people". The real problem is the New Liberal and NDP Nazi's, and their grass root Islamofacsit supporters, like Rata4You. Rata just one of those white haters, his contemp for the frozen tundra of Alberta, shows not only his ignorance, but his mental issues.
Enough said? The accounting firm that does the economic projections for the Canadian gov't themselves stated on the Globe & Mail YESTERDAY that Flaherty's and Harpers financial assessment/projections make absolutely no sense. Gov. Palin had a degree in commmunications yet she couldn't talk...you couldn't even get a straight answer from her. Think so?? Look at McCains strained face as she answers Couric's questions. His eye's were at 20,000 RPM's!
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Yarcofin? A degree is just a degree. It only means that he passed the University exams to earn the degree.
I am not taking anything away from him, because I am a University student. But, I am not naive enough to think that a diploma in economics is the answer in dealing with this economic crisis.
To deal with this crisis, you need leadership, confidence and trust. Harper has none of the requirements.
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West, go see your homosexual boyfriend...Uhh im sorry I think he dumped you???That's why you are so frustrated? Anyway, Harper has no background in economics other than his diploma. He is an author and a hockey historian, in case you didn't know.
Where do you see the economic skills? You know, I think you're in love with him. I bet you have a picture of him next to your single bed. Keep posting your insults West, bc I know that's all you have to offer.
The accounting firm in which the gov't relies on for data to base forecasts and set policies has stated in the Global Mail that they can not be held responsible for what came out of Flaherty's mouth...there's NOTHING in Flaherty's position that is linked to the forecasts that were projected by the accounting firm. They were so concerned that they wanted to put it on record.
Tell us he's doing fine...the reality is different.
Listen.... we best keep the peace right now and reamin quite and fun loveing country. Dion is a serious fool for doing what he is doing for a last attempt to grasp the power.
Harper Won So leave him alone! They can wait for there turn in 4 years. This shows that all they want is power... Plus Layton is a big Hypocrite!! When He lost he said he will have harper's back... look at what his doing now! What a big Hypocrite. Leave Harper alone his trying to do his job.
The lefts have lost their minds... All but the most hardcore NDPers and Liberals have lost confidence in their parties... nice to see everyone's true colors... If their willing to team up with the Seps just to gain power it shows that their willing to compromise anything just because they all hate Harper... You can't build a platform on the fact that you all oppose one man for different reasons...
This "Crisis" is all about ethics. This coalition was planned before the last election. The Conservative government was re-elected and introduced a budjet that would get rid off public funding to all political parties, in order to save money. Then you have the opposition parties go insane because of that. If the opposition parties want more money they should engage with citizens in order to get more donations. This current situation nothing more than an attept to grab power by the opposition.
I think Harper must be held reponcible for much of this mess however in this economic global disaster it scares the bloody bejesus out of me that this bumbling light weight along with the antichrist Jack Layton and seperatists will run the country. May God have mercy on us. In a Potential seminal moment in the countrys history this video with poor framing, lighting and english is the best they can up with. A pox on all of your political houses. You all smell like shit.
Stephen Harper has done great things for our country. He is honourable - an old fashioned qauality that today's politians don't have. The coalition is a bunch of whiners.
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I don't think Stephen Harper has been a great Prime Minister. He hasn't been a catastrophe, but he hasn't been great.
What I do like about the coalition is that Canada will not be governed in an arrogant kind of way like Harper and his friends have done for almost three years.
And, perhaps the house of commons will finally not be occupied by adults acting like school children. In short, it will be more productive. As a result, Canada will be more productive.
Wow has Harper aged in the last three years!
bernier42 4 days ago
Prime Minister Dion. That scares the fuck out of me.
Think about it.
pittsky 1 month ago
Holy Fuck
suitgonewild 4 months ago
Dion isn't the sort of "leader" who should be trying to pull off a coup d'etat.
Moral of this story: if you're planning a Beerhall Putsch, don't let a Beerhall Putz run the show.
eheino99 5 months ago
Harper is full of shit, but Dion's response was a complete disaster, and blew the entire thing up.
somewhatlongdong 6 months ago
liberalism defines Canada, liberalism made Canada great, liberalism is the coherent progressive and compassionate political philosophy of a true democracy. And when the liberal party of Canada embodies liberalism once again, they will get my vote once again.
drowningrock 9 months ago
Nobody wanted to work with Dion, not even people that should have helped him with this video. Instead, Dion used a webcam to self record himself.
Sad. Good thing he never went far.
bluevlocity407 1 year ago 2
I liked Dion's speech.
angelsaints00 1 year ago
When he goes Dictator, I'm going to play this anywhere I can.
Also, vote Kerry.
MacGyverinSpace 1 year ago
I remember viewing both of these in December of 2008.
Who knew Harper would prorogue a 2nd time to avoid a Committee.
I rather miss Dion.... I think Canadians will reject buying into the Conservative attack ads.
I sometimes fear Ignatieff is worse than Harper.... I think the next Federal Election is going to look like the Canadian version of John Kerry vs. George W. Bush.
Canadian Politics seemed to be entering uncharted territory
JWLspiritual 2 years ago
If you did not know, it was ignatieffs staff who taped Dion that day on purpose.
unitedwecomedy 2 years ago
If the PM with the permission of an unelected figurehead can stop the legislative process and save himself despite having lost the confidence of the house, there is definitely a problem with our constitution. On the other hand, when the House is not in session, the government is unable to do any harm to the nation for the time being.
NoEoAoRo 2 years ago
Actually, the Conservatives never lost the confidence of the House as you claim. They have won each and every confidence vote held since coming into office 4 years ago. Also the PM doesn't need the 'permission' of the Governor General, in fact she is bound to follow his advice unless he actually loses a vote of confidence in the House.
On the other hand, Paul Martin DID in fact lose a confidence vote on May 10, 2005. Martin hung onto power for 9 months after that by bribing Belinda Stronach.
liberty4canada 2 years ago 8
what a phony bastard, i guess its legal to clone humans now cause if my eyes was closed i would swear this was mike harris. fuck stephen harper and fuck the conservative party!
ganjaking187 2 years ago
socialists are more controlling and seperatists like to break a country apart, it's not a good combination
railroadtie69 2 years ago
i dont hate quebec but i hate the way it is governed with seperatists who always complain... I think the proper way to run this country is work together rather than rely on these socialist and seperatst scumbags who do nothing but damage... The reason I endorse conservative is because i found it fits the best interests for this country and managing taxes... Could you imagine why it would cost so much for the taxpayers if the ndp got power? it would be devastating and even worse the seperatists
railroadtie69 2 years ago
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Mr. Harper doesnt believe coalitions are un-democratic. In 2005 while he was in opposition he spoke publicly about the conservatives the NDP and (Guess who?) the Bloc forming a coalition if the liberals, couldnt form a majority of their own in parliament. Also, there are signed documents that proposed the formation of a coalition with The Bloc, Progressive Conservatives and Canadian Alliance back in 2000. Harper is a destroying Canada in order to protect his career. We must get rid of him,
verybigcanada 3 years ago
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it's awesome how king harper throws in a forced smile while he speaks!
cannyx 3 years ago
why do they want to remain in Canada
To continue to live on Canadian money
Because without our help, they would be a third world nation
If you want to stay in canada why you elect separatists
All the money we give you, and what we get in return
The Fuc***** Bloc.
We must put an end to this ingratitude.
2CanTor 3 years ago
They are a very unique culture and refuse to be overtaken by anyone, even English Canada. They are so unique they are almost their own nation. Now, they are officially their own country, within Canada. While I think that all payments to Quebec should be cut off, the Bloc Quebecois is a party that represents the interests of Quebecers, and should not be hated for that. Hating the Bloc Quebecois will not help Quebecers vote against separation if there is another referendum.
12v45g 2 years ago
12v45
We don't need them they drag down Canada.
they are lazy uneducated criminal ... a shit hole
Quebec = Northern HAiti
worthless
2CanTor 2 years ago
Even without considering their culture, Quebec is one third of all paper made in Canada, and is 7 million people. Also, it has huge natural resources and provides most of New York's power. In addition, most Quebecer's have forgotten about separation, and just get angry when the Bloc is called separtists.
12v45g 2 years ago
French-Canadians have no respect for Canada,... but take all they can from the Federal Government, they take July 1 as a vacation day!!!
Quebec=Haiti, a third world nation a shit hole
Quebec
Drag Down Canada
Hating the Bloc Quebecois will not help Quebecers vote against separation if there is another referendum
HA HA HA
They won't anyway they need our money
Wake up they have no gut's never achieved anything they are welfare collector
2CanTor 2 years ago
Don't try arguing with that guy, he's claiming bullshit without looking at the facts... Well you already gathered as much I think
Ouranos21 2 years ago
Lorsque le «Premier ministre»
d'un pays a besoin de faire un appel à la haine contre une nation (Québec une nation à l'intérieur du Canada ses propres mots) Cette nation qui a également contribué à bâtir ce pays.
Dans le but de refaire sa majorité les heures sont sombres pour ce pays ...
Joyeux Noël O Canada
AztecaQc 3 years ago
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AztecaQc, harper doesn't represent the majority of Canadians. Harpers hate mongering tactic are transparent to many of us outside of quecbec. We will not give him a majority! If I am wrong, I will agree with you, that these are indeed dark times.
verybigcanada 3 years ago
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When the 'Premier ministre'
of a country needs to make a call to hatred against a nation (Québec a nation within Canada his own words) A nation who also contributed to build up this country.
In Order to redo his majority times are bleak for this country ...
Joyeux Noël O Canada
AztecaQc 3 years ago
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Does anyone care!? Seriously harper is the most dull boring ass prime minister i just don't want to go to polls again and say i'm voting for his ass. Its all sooo gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
joela25 3 years ago
Well either we bail out the lousy American car makers or we pay billions in unemployment and welfare to the thousands who will be out of work or we spend billions on policing and prisons to curb the enevitable crime wave as cash strapped broke people try to eat and live. Why not bail out Nortel- the unions have bargained themselves out of work, since they can't compete with better quality cars made by non unionized workers. GM and the lot have been making garbage compared to foreign cars.
roodeey 3 years ago
zenncars, made in Canada but we are not allowed to purchase one. If I were the PM i could make this country the richest Country in the world. It would be so Simple. I would seek out all of our Canadian inventors. and invests in what ever they have. Made in Canada means nothing, it has to be Canadian owned right down to the patent. Building cars for other world corps. is only enslaving ourselves to the system. they get rich from our labour. Canada sells out its most valuable resource every time.
Billy982810 3 years ago
Yeah Billy, the corporations have plenty of power and they have hijacked our democratic, "for the people" gov't. If we don't give them huge tax breaks then they will just leave taking jobs with them, but hey they are already doing that.
Canandians have amazingly great ideas except we fail at marketing or breaking into the protectionist US market- they don't like outsiders despite NAFTA. One thing Dion was right about is research into creating new energy industries. The tarsands are toxic.
roodeey 3 years ago
He was right about the carbon tax shift as well..it's a brilliant economic policy, and it disappoints me that Dion ruined it's legitimacy for the Canadian people..
kissmyAsphalt 3 years ago
we are in the same boat. the real opposition to end the corporate mockery of democracy aren't given respect from the media.
AM429 2 years ago
Harper the hypocrite who he himself was going to work a deal with the Bloc to topple the Martin gov't.
There were reports that Harper's own advisers told him not to threaten to take away the oppositions funding- now the schoolyard bully has been knocked down by three weaklings.
roodeey 3 years ago 2
Harper = The best Prime Minister
majortuff 3 years ago
The way I see it, a Prime Minister is better than a dictator Dion thinks He is still in a campaign. Its over pal go lay down.
Billy982810 3 years ago
If the opposition didn't form a coalition Harper would have been the Dictator of Canada since he was going to take away all public funding for the opposition which would've been their demise. Its too bad funding wasn't removed when the Conservative Reform Alliance Party (CRAP) was trying to get off the ground. Harper basically left the opposition no choice.
roodeey 3 years ago
CRAP lol thats funny. AN Elected Dictator, thats funny to. Where do you get your information? Just research the facts Thats all I ask. Watch this video. watch?v=Vme2mRvn8aQ&feature=channel_page
Billy982810 3 years ago
Hey even Saddam Hussien, Robert Mugabe and Fidel Castro hold elections except they're the only candidate and that is what Harper would have guaranteed if he took away their public funding at this time- the Conservatives would be the only candidate.
PS the Canandian Conservative Reform Alliance Party was the initial name proposed for the Alliance party until they realized it was CCRAP.
roodeey 3 years ago
Crap. This whole thing is crap thats for sure. No matter what we do or say here will not change a failed system long installed by the liberal government. I'm afraid that Steven Harper is to late. The crooks are gone with the money and left us here to die. And the drastic measures that Mr Harper would have to take to save Canada from its demise will only make him look bad. You have to look into the past scandals of the liberals and realize that this is a repercussion.
Billy982810 3 years ago
The failed system you whine about was installed by the fathers of Confederation and Sir John A. Mac Donald, a Conservative was the first Prime Minister. The federal system bailed out the Western provinces during the dustbowl depression when they couldn't make ends meet- if we were like Harper we would have finished them off for good and let them starve during that time.
roodeey 3 years ago
The Tories lose more than any other party if they canceled the taxpayer subsidy of political parties because only the Tories they raise more money privately than they get through taxpayer subsidies. 65% of Canadians want these subsidies cut.
The opposition parties did have a choice - Over the last 5 years they could have worked to attract donations from regular Canadians instead of mounting pathetic partisan attacks, kangaroo courts and witch hunts.
liberty4canada 3 years ago
Hey Billy I watched your video clip of the ignorant old coot who is completely ignorant of how the Canadian Parliamentary system of democracy works- is this to show me that you too are ignorant and believe the misinformation in that clip?
We do not elect a Prime Minister- where on the ballot does the PM's name occur? It doesn't- if the Conservatives wanted to tomorrow they could change the PM to whoever in their party they wanted to. The coalition was a legal move that forced Harper to respond.
roodeey 3 years ago
Yes, I believe what he say's to be true, So get out your name calling vocabulary and let me have it. a coo, I believe he called them. This is all make believe any way's their all on the same teem at this point. I've watched my country turn into a fascist dictatorship over the past 44 years. I don't see Any of them working for our interest. entrusted to them we are the people. Everything they do is the opposite of what should be done. Im going to become a free man on the land. no more SN on me.
Billy982810 3 years ago
The "coo" he is refering to is a coup as in coup d'etat which is the illegal and unconstitutional overthrow of a gov't.
The coalition technically isn't a coup, it is the Canadian Parliament functioning as it was designed to when a minority gov't plays nasty- Harper planned to do the exact same thing with the Bloc against Paul Martin. It may not be a perfect gov't but its one of the best systems in the world.
Maybe you listen to too much Right wing radio-they do nothing but complain non-stop.
roodeey 3 years ago
Layton And Dion need to be removed permanently.
Billy982810 3 years ago 4
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Gah. This guy has such an evil and sneaky face.
MonopolyRSV 3 years ago
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Mister Harper has just closed parliament in the middle of the greatest economic crisis of our time in order to save his job. Mr. Harper doesnt believe coalitions are un-democratic. In fact, in 2005 while he was in opposition he spoke publicly about the conservatives the NDP and Guess who?... The Block Quebecois forming a coalition if the liberals couldnt form a majority of their own in parliament. At best, Mr. Harper is disingenuous and power hungry. The conservatives must get rid of him.
verybigcanada 3 years ago
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I'll do you one better. The Bloc has just publically released signed documents that proposed the formation of a coalition with The Bloc, Progressive Conservatives and Canadian Alliance back in 2000 should Jean Cretien's liberals not win a majority (which they did). The conservatives are NOT so opposed to forming governing coalitions as Mr. Harper purports to be! Even worse, back then they wanted to support Stockwell Day as Prime Minister!:S
Bacchae30 3 years ago
Harper closed parliament to give the coalition some time to fall apart.And guess what.The coalition IS falling apart.Dion just
got dumped.Ignatieff is going through the Liberal caucus to get elected denying tens of thousands of card carrying Liberals any say in who gets to lead the Liberal Party.Bob Rae is challenging Iggy's appointment.The NDP are
coming off as power hungry opportunists who don't give a damn about the country.
Harper and the Conservatives are on track to win a MAJORITY.
westeightyone 3 years ago 3
The GG prorogued parliament at the request of the PM.
mismit2 3 years ago
Fascism and Communism are not polar opposites, but are brother and sister on the left side of the political spectrum.
And just to illustrate my point, the other name for the Nazi Party was the National SOCIALIST German Workers Party. SOCIALISM, COMMUNISM, FASCISM, NAZISM are ALL left wing ideologies, and responsible for millions of deaths world wide.
So next time you call a conservative a fascist, remember in the back of your mind, YOU'RE most likely the fascist.
kg988 3 years ago 5
Mr kg988, you're right Fascism and Communism are not opposites but nor is Fascism and Capitalism. For that matter capitalism and communism are not opposites (think china). But mr. kg988 fascism is NOT a "left wing" ideology. In fact when fascists come to power the fist people the kill are most often the commies! In the political world of today the few people that call themselves fascist are allied with ultra nationalist and ultra conservatives, Berlusconi & Le Pen, to mention a couple...
verybigcanada 3 years ago
Wow, what are they teaching in schools these days!
Fascism absolutely is definitely on the left, that doesn't change because a bunch of progressives call conservatives 'right-wing fascists'. You've been mislead.
Capitalism and Communism ARE opposites! China is a hybrid moving toward the open market system.
liberty4canada 3 years ago
Sorry liberty4canada you're simply wrong. fascism is not a left wing ideology. Fascism is born out of reaction to the enlightenment and the birth of liberalism. The word is derived from a roman (latin) word that signifies power/authority. Fascist are concerned with power: might is right kind of thinking, similar to Realpolitik. I agree often people on the left unfairly call all conservatives fascist. However, neo-fascist overwhelmingly support conservatives not leftists. This is simply a fact!
verybigcanada 3 years ago
Are you saying authoritarianism isn't left-wing? Here is a crib sheet for you:
LEFT - RIGHT
authoritarian - libertarian
people need to be govorned - people are free
group rights - individual rights
big government - small government
planned economy - free market
elitism - populism
entitlements - opportunities
Neo-fascists are called that BECAUSE they are on the right, not the left. Just like neo-cons who are actually left-wing authoritarians not right-wing libertarians. Ask Ron Paul.
liberty4canada 3 years ago
That's a pretty slanted crib sheet you have there, liberty.
To continue with verybigcanada's reasonable language lesson, you're implying "neo" means something akin to opposite when it actually means new (as in a new form).
Neo-cons aren't left-wing authoritarians any more than neo-marxists are eager capitalists.
Besides, the left/right-wing scale (or dichotomy, as you're using it) is outdated anyway.
Very few people or governments are consistently either. It's basically just shorthand.
Hyperpandas 3 years ago
I know what 'neo' means. Please watch youtube video G0N0iqUiaTs to see what I am getting at regarding the neo-cons, I think you'll find I'm not the first person to see them as leftists. Nor am I the first to say fascism is on the left - but more likely it doesn't belong on the left-right scale at all. The dichotomy is a limited tool at best. Even so, those ideas belong where they belong, if anywhere. What exactly would you change?
liberty4canada 3 years ago
@kg988 The reason why both the right and left sides of the spectrum are considered socialist is because they both have complete control over the working class. The left side by means of taxation and government controlled purchasing. The right side is where complete lack of market regulations leads an oligarchy to control the consumer class, because we work for them and also buy the stuff they sell. The right side is where Hitler is, but more so it is where all rich people are.
yuri35434 1 year ago
YAY Harper! Best PM in a while!
The liberals are a bunch of socialist/fascists now. I will never vote for them again! I've been realizing more and more that the Conservatives are more classically liberal than the Liberal Party. They actually believe in freedom, whereas the Liberals just want to take it away and tell you how to live and what to think. Kind of Orwellian....Comrade Dion, leave us alone!
kg988 3 years ago 2
You obviously don't know what fascist means- it is extreme right wing you doodad.
mshacklady 3 years ago
No, YOU don't know what fascist means - it is a left-wing ideology, along with other authoritarian movements. Classic Liberalism is on the right, but don't be fooled by the Liberal Party who have been moving steadily to the left into social democratic territory. Right now the most liberal party in Canada is the Conservative Party.
liberty4canada 3 years ago 2
Liberty4canada knows this mshacklady, why don't you? Don't you ever think for yourself instead of listening to every word the media says? Or maybe you've already succumbed to double speak and double think(that's from the book 1984, in case you didn't go to school). lol doodad.
kg988 3 years ago 3
Mshacklady, Maybe YOU don't know what fascism means. Fascism was defined by the Russian communists as ultra-right wing to make it seem different from communism. In reality, the Russians saw it as a competing, but quite similar ideology; which it IS. There is not much difference between communism and fascism, when you really look at it. Fascism is also the father/mother of what is now liberal progressiveness. Fascism is essentially a more nationalistic communism, hence the racist aspect.
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Harper is a fuckin snake. Don't believe this asshole.
canadianbeeph 3 years ago
So many are looking at this wrong. Voters didn't go to the ballots thinking "ok, I can either choose Harper or one of three of these other guys". Everyone assumes that a liberal who voted in the last election, will most certainly vote liberal in a conservative-coalition vote, but that's not necessarily the case at all - many who voted lib in the last election will likely vote conservative because they don't like ndp and they certainly dont like the block! Why do you assume so much?
jenzeed 3 years ago 6
You're very right! And that's the whole point. NOBODY VOTED FOR A COALITION. The opposition parties even promised they wouldn't form one last election....
kg988 3 years ago 4
Watch the youtube video "Stephane Dion rejects coalition with the NDP" where Dion says NDp economics are bad for the country. He said this just 22 days before the election and now this? Wake up?
jenzeed 3 years ago 4
Canadians had a choice of 4 parties, all fundamentally different - liberals, socialists, separatists, conservatives. They voted conservative! They didn't vote for a combination of parties! The house didn't lose confidence, they are afraid because Harper's economics are sound! If there is another vote, Harper versus the coalition, Harper will get in.
jenzeed 3 years ago 12
the majority did not vote conservative.
racheljean 3 years ago
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the majority did not vote for harper. the house has lost confidence in his leadership. the legal course of action is the formation of a coalition government. what stephen is doing now is wasting our time. the majority do not support him. a coalition is what the majority want. the majority of the house members, and the majority of voters do not want harper.
racheljean 3 years ago
Nobody -not one person - voted for a coalition government.The people who voted NDP voted NDP,just as the people who voted Liberal voted LIBERAL.Noooooobody voted for a 3 against 1 arrangement in government.
Ignatieff is making the move to take over as the leader of the coalition forcing Dion out and eliminating Bob Rae as a contender for the leadership.Iggy is set to pull off a coup within the coup. Making it a coup coup idea.
Iggy is every bit as foolish and conniving as Dion,Rae and Layton.
westeightyone 3 years ago 5
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Stephen likely won't be on the ballot. Too many Canadians hate him = bad for business. Steve dug his own hole attacking art and culture costing him his majority and then trying to bully his way into one the next election by undoing our democracy.
Thankfully the opposition stepped up and is doing it's job.
racheljean 3 years ago
BTW, Harper's move to stop the attempted coup was every bit as legal as the formation of the coup.
It's a 'legal course of action' when your favored group uses a loophole against the standing government. But it's 'wasting our time' when the standing government uses a loophole to stall off your group's attempted coup.Your version of 'our' does not include the majority of Canadians,rachel.
westeightyone 3 years ago 3
I meant to write "every bit as legal as the formation of the coalition".
westeightyone 3 years ago 2
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the majority of canadians did not vote for the removal of financial provisions that help parties grow, and make them less dependent on corporate influence. the majority of canadians voted for the party that did not take minority leadership. our constitution provides the house the ability to unite against a bad leader (that's there for our protection). the majority of canadians are not wealthy and our interest is not served by a government controlled by corporate support.
racheljean 3 years ago
Our constitution provides the house with the ability to unite against a GOOD leader.The provision can also be used AGAINST us (the Canadian citizens) by power hungry parasites within the house who obviously couldn't care less about the state of the country.
The majority of Canadians can see the participants in the coalition exactly for what they are.Harper will be voted in with a MAJORITY in the next election and the NDP and the Liberals will be chiefly responsible.
westeightyone 3 years ago 2
The same rule that was put in place to protect us ( the Canadian people )is open to being abused by self-serving opportunists within the house.The rule has the capacity to HARM us ( the Canadian people )when it is applied in the wrong fashion by people within the house who are motivated by their political self interest and not the interest of the country.
westeightyone 3 years ago 3
Watch utube video titled "Stephane Dion rejects coalition with the NDP" where he says ndp idealogy is bad for the economy! it's clear he's a complete idiot and this is a power grab out of fear conservatives will continue to gain the confidence they've earned under Harper, due to keeping promises, eliminating GST and doing the best that can be done in this GLOBAL economic crisis. (while the libs try to blame the crisis on Canada particularly the conservatives- The whole coalition is assinine!)
jenzeed 3 years ago 4
Anyone who thinks liberals, socialists and separatists can come together to form ANYTHING united is out of touch with reality. This is a power grab because they don't like that conservatives are gaining confidence, as evidenced by the last vote, because they do as promised - examples funding to families with kids under 6, funding art programs to school age kids and lowering gst, which Chretien promised in his first 2 terms and couldn't manage to do in THREE!
jenzeed 3 years ago 4
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For crissakes, you two have gone way past the point of having any credibility by now.
You've both had a couple of fair points, but now you sound like little brats.
You have to see you aren't going to convince the other of anything, and you're not doing the rest of us any favours either.
Chill the fuck out.
Hyperpandas 3 years ago
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Yes Hyper I'm sorry. I will be the bigger person and stop. All I was trying to say was that a coalition is a common thing across the world. It is done not only with governments but with companies.
I will repeat myself: A minority government is essentially a coalition, which means that a minority government must operate a country with their opponents. The majority of Canadians asked for that. But, it wasn't done by Harper in the three years that he was PM.
I simply don't accept that.
lolitathebitch 3 years ago
wtf? I can't believe there are still 25% of people still want to vote for Dion. Oxygen thieves.
jonnoble53 3 years ago 3
There isn't anywhere near 25%,jon. A heck of a lot of NDP voters and Liberal voters are so disgusted by the coalition that they will stay home during the next election.They won't cast their vote for Harper because they're
anti-Conservative AND they won't cast their vote for their own party because they're sickened by their leaders' attempt at a coup.
Harper will end up with a majority in the next election and he will have the NDP and the Liberals to thank for it.
westeightyone 3 years ago 5
Look at the book in the top left background of Dions adress! hahahahhahah
HOT AIR!!!!!
PocketHercules99 3 years ago 2
dion - "In Canada the government derives its legitimacy from an elected parliment, parliment elected by you..." He said it himself. The parliment is elected by the people. No one voted for a coalition government. All he is doing is sneaking himselve through the back door because he can't win in a fair and democratic election. If he thinks he can fool the Canadian people he is sadly mistaken.
mcgradis 3 years ago 2
the 3 stooges of parliament hill..what noble characters lmao..layton would sell his own mother to get power, Dion is weak & liberals are notorious for wasting/stetaling tax $ & is about to get thrown out of his own party, Duseppe is just out for Quebec...yeah what a bunch of winners to lead Canada, they couldn't lead a dog around for god sakes...the only ones supporting them are the ones looking for hand outs ie UNION MEMBERS...all about self interest & not the majority of the ppl in Canada
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coalition = great idea ... but it's just a cover for harper. when the economy breaks down, harper will come back in 2 years and say "look what the coalition did!" but really nobody could have stopped it.
Alicia8826 3 years ago
ATTA BOY HARPER!!
Coalition is the worst possible call for Canada
JWThompson16 3 years ago 7
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What do you call a minority government? Isn't it somewhat like a coalition? A minority government is supposed to work with the opposition to govern the country, because that is what Canadians asked for.
Did Harper do that? He didn't so it in his first mandate and he didn't seem to be willing to do it in his second mandate.
He was arrogant and showed no respect towards the majority of Canadians. The majority that asked him to work with the other parties.
lolitathebitch 3 years ago
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Who do you find creepier? Duceppe or Harper? Harper and his cabinet. Duceppe reminds me of the cop in the Terminator movies. Harper is just evil. The comments made by his cabinet he covers for are antihuman. For example the "death by a thousand slices of meat" remark when Canadians were poisoned by Maple Leaf Foods. People like you and me. Just wanted some cold cuts for a sandwich.
demondelight 3 years ago
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Harper is accomplishing what the Bush administration did in the US. That is; dividing their fellow countrymen with a "for us or against us" mentality. If Harper loses his government, he has no won to blame but himself for picking this unnecessary fight. I can't believe that I voted for him. Dion doesn't seem as bad as some make him out to be.
GuyOrrEspo 3 years ago
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Harper is manufacturing a political crisis to avoid confronting the economic crises....
kingrexrex666 3 years ago
Canadian people "passive submissive" but we can change that stand up Canada let it be known that this time ITS NOT OK.
hrabia08 3 years ago
The Liberal party was so long in power and stole so much money which also gave them the ability to install their people into the justice system, educational system that they even were able to shape society to favour them, once in a while giving something to the people to get votes.
hrabia08 3 years ago 2
I need subtitles when Stephane Dion speaks anyone else?
CosimoStory 3 years ago 4
Ya me too I need subtitles I have no clue what Stephane Dion is saying most of the time
ViolinRepertoire 3 years ago 4
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I need to wash my ears and eyeballs when I see Harper talk...does anyone else?
kingrexrex666 3 years ago
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LOL! Harper deserves this! Conservative party is carbage!!!
palermo10518 3 years ago
HA HA HA HA HA we deserve this!!!! All you pundits probably "do your duty" every few years by voting, then you abdicate complete control to the politicians. NICE WORK BABIES!!!!
figleaf101 3 years ago
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"we're suspending public unions right to strike" said Harper, the extreme right wing
homer30 3 years ago
Part 3
You want a coalition with LIBERALS that already has cracks in its own party.. that's one start that Canadians won't be able to handle. I rather have a majority of LIBERAL's or CONSERVATIVE's than any coalition.
rajasalil 3 years ago 3
Part 2
Liberal supporters are planning to kick out Dion whereas he wants to be a PM. Now as a Liberal supporter who wants stability during these tough times, how can I vote my party when I know their leader is not wanted by his own party.
India, the world's biggest democracy had coalition govt's in past and you have to understand it is IMPOSSIBLE to convince all the coalition party. Whoever is supporting coalition should GOOGLE SEARCH the success.
rajasalil 3 years ago 4
Part 1
Unfortunately we are in the soup. Economy is sinking GLOBALLY, so don't blame Harper.(BTW: I am a LIBERAL supporter). We need a leader who can sustain and any Canadian who has taken ECO 101 or ECO 102 knows very well that nobody can do that when its a global recession specially when our economy is depending on US to a great extent.
I know Harper is not the best but Dion is not even close. Layton.. forget it and Bloc, you gotta be .... me.
Contd..
rajasalil 3 years ago 5
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Harper doesn't think a coalition is fair but was willing to form one with the Bloc 4 years ago. I'm a Conservative, but I'm sick of his bully tactics as well. I will no longer vote Conservative if Harper is the leader. Get rid of Harper, the sooner the better.
Ian7570 3 years ago
He wasn't willing to form a coalition with the Bloc. He was working with the Bloc to vote down a confidence motion from the Liberals.
timmtc 3 years ago 2
Letter from Harper to the Governor General in which he states:
"We respectfully point out that the opposition parties, who together constitute a majority in the House, have been in close consultation. We believe that, should a request for dissolution arise this should give you cause, as constitutional practice has determined, to consult the opposition leaders and consider all of your options before exercising your constitutional authority."
Ian7570 3 years ago
It sounds like he was willing to form a coalition with the Bloc to me.
Ian7570 3 years ago
You're faulting Harper for his willingness to form a coalition with the Bloc 4 years ago to vote down a confidence motion from the Liberals but you don't have a problem with the NDP and the Liberals climbing into bed with the Bloc today, Ian. You weren't okay with Harper employing 'bully tactics' against them back then but you're okay with them employing 'bully tactics' against him now.
I'm non-partisan and I will be voting Conservative in the next election for the good of the country.
westeightyone 3 years ago 5
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I said it was hypocritical, which it is. I won't vote conservative again if Harper is leader.
Ian7570 3 years ago
Yes,it was and is hypocritical.I was pointing out that the NDP and the Liberals are no better in that regard when it comes to 'bully tactics'.
If the Liberals had come to power with a minority government in the last election and the Conservatives and the NDP had aligned themselves with the Bloc to form a coalition to bring down the standing government I would vote Liberal. I will vote Conservative this time around because of what the leaders of the NDP and the Liberals are trying to do.
westeightyone 3 years ago 4
It's sure does HOT AIR lol. National vote first before deciding whether the coalition will govern the country or the conservative!
homer30 3 years ago 2
Nice video Dion where did you make that the
back of a camper trailer???
Scoti45 3 years ago
HOT AIR... HAHAHAHAHA! Dion will make a comical footnote in Canadian political history.
victoriabagpiper 3 years ago
Ok the reason i like canada is because its so damn stable :|
its the best country.. nice ppl.. peaceful.. etc.
PLEASE LET THE GOVERMENT BE STABLE AGAIN!
lmfaowtfinghell 3 years ago
It's so fitting that the book to the upper left behind Dion says in bold letters on its spine, "HOT AIR"
AlbertaGamer 3 years ago 2
Long Live Her Excellency the Right Honourable Michaëlle Jean
puffrooster 3 years ago
Fuck Monarchy
SteveRedKetchup 3 years ago
In Canada we have a constitutional monarchy which is a form of constitutional government.
Most constitutional monarchies have a parliamentary system and we share this system with Australia, Belgium, Denmark, Japan, Malaysia, Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, New Zealand, Thailand and the United Kingdom.
And it is a good thing that we do otherwise we might have been overthrown by a fascist coalition which KNOWS that in a fair & democratic election, they would never be voted into power!
puffrooster 3 years ago
That coalition of morons will NEVER pass...
I am even prouder to have voted for Harper since last week!
BTW, not all Conservatives are Monarchists...
SteveRedKetchup 3 years ago
Both Dion and Harper are Bilderburg bitches! It doesn't matter who the leader is, all the parties want total control because that is what is necessary to establish a fascist dictatorship in a pinko socialist country like Canada. Its the new world order agenda.
These laws have already been established in the United Kingdom and the USA. We are just holding them up here in Canada. We have to keep a majority government from forming as long as possible because once it does than thats it for us!
puffrooster 3 years ago
Cheers.
Billy982810 3 years ago
The production quality of Dion's response has more in common with Al Qaeda, cave based broadcasts than with the minimum production values expected from a coalition of Canadian federal parties. I am almost expecting for someone to reveal that a guest director was involved and then for that individual to be revealed as Chris Crocker.
superfishswim 3 years ago 2
I'm absolutely delighted the Three Stooges have been put back in the box of Crackerjack they sprung from.
One thing was very clear in the last election. Dion was voted most likely to nauseate. Ipso facto, he is better suited to life in a Liberal closet somewhere up-province entertaining moose, perhaps.
Did he think he could pull off storming The Hill, with Jack&Gille tumbling after him?
GGaaggggggg
deewillyfree 3 years ago 4
Arrrggg.
I'm glad people are in dialogue now at least.
I hope more will get off their arse and participate; in voting/debates/expressing their opinions/views/ideas. Maybe now they'll be listened to.
Hopefully we can make enough of a ruckus that the government at least notices and considers their constituents.
We're not right all the time but should still speak up (and expect to be heard/considered prior to the flames)
Silence and apathy do not work.
thekamloopian 3 years ago
I think Duceppe is a genius.
If he is the separatist Harper says he is then it seams like Duceppe is giving Harper just enough rope to hang himself with.
After a million dollar ad campaign attacking the "separatists" of Quebec Duceppe is just going to turn to his people and say...
"See why Quebec should seperate, See their opinions of us what happens when we try and vote in their government."
While Harper pays for the whole thing.
That's somebody who knows how to play the game. Well played.
6k2 3 years ago 5
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If they get the coalition then they gain more power and if they do not get a coalition they gain even more power. Win Win.
Plus the fact that Harper cannot and will not revise his position on why he doesn't want this coalition to go through (Bloc support) makes this the best political move i've ever seen.
Harper Campaigns for you and pays for it out of his own pocket and you gain more support either way Harper plays it.
Make Duceppe Prime Minister he damn sure outplayed the rest of them.
6k2 3 years ago
It's funny how Dion said that we must accept the outcome of a vote with grace.
bjtkyo 3 years ago 7
Any minoritary government that planed to refuse mediation for salarial equity, and refuse to act to protect our economy and our jobs when we face a brutal recession deserve nothing but to be overturn by the opposition!
And any government who refuse to assume his actions in front of the Chamber of Commons, and denies Québec's voice deserve nothing but to lose power. And to face the strong opposition of my nation against these vile and irresponsible attacks against the Peuple Québécois.
carlairving 3 years ago
Tu y crois encore toi en la fédération canadienne? Je voulais y croire avant, mais à avoir la réaction du canada anglais et les remarques ultra ''racistes'' qu'on peut voir sur les forums comme ici, je pense que le Québec et le canada c comme de l'eau et de l'huile... On est déjà séparés... Tu sais poukoi ca sert à rien d'esseyer de les convraincre de te respecter? Parce que quand ya un malade qui dit qu'on devrait se faire déporter, y'en a pas un qui lève le petit doigt.
unab84 3 years ago
À part pour l'argent, on a pratiquement aucune raison de rester dans la fédération canadienne. On ne fait DÉJÀ pas partie de la fédération canadienne (écoute Harper parler du Bloc)...
C vraiment cave de sacrifier une partie de notre liberté, et de se faire cracher dessus, juste pour recevoir un peu de cash...
Anyway
unab84 3 years ago
WOW< LIBEAL NDO Lefties FASCISM!!! Wow, we are blessed to be living in such times! If the Coalition goes forth, it is the END OF THE DOMINION! FU&K YA! Watch out for ISLMAMOFASCIT meddling as well. Could get really bad fighting the Leftiei Liberal nwew Green Nazi's! HA
Thunderwavia 3 years ago
The end of the dominion, eh? You mean you people are gonna seperate and carve out your own homeland? Where? BC? We are as liberal as you can be here. Alberta? Good riddance, the federation doesn't need a frozen tundra that is pumping soon to be obsolete oil. Ontario? Ahhh...the NAFTA epi-centre...Obama will cancel the free-trade accord.
Neo-conservatism is all about control - UCLA & Berkley did a pathology study on the Cons - they are facists. Hitler was a neo-con and so was Bush.
Rata4You 3 years ago
If you don't think that western canada can't survive on their own, then you are saddly mistaken. The sooner we are rid of the parasites from the eastern provinces, the better off we will be. Good luck to the rest of you.
sitajean 3 years ago 2
Rata4You is just one of those anti-white bigots. He uses "you people". The real problem is the New Liberal and NDP Nazi's, and their grass root Islamofacsit supporters, like Rata4You. Rata just one of those white haters, his contemp for the frozen tundra of Alberta, shows not only his ignorance, but his mental issues.
Thunderwavia 3 years ago
We are in an "economic crisis"
Stephen Harper has a degree in economics.
Nuff said.
Yarcofin 3 years ago 2
Enough said? The accounting firm that does the economic projections for the Canadian gov't themselves stated on the Globe & Mail YESTERDAY that Flaherty's and Harpers financial assessment/projections make absolutely no sense. Gov. Palin had a degree in commmunications yet she couldn't talk...you couldn't even get a straight answer from her. Think so?? Look at McCains strained face as she answers Couric's questions. His eye's were at 20,000 RPM's!
Nuff said.
Rata4You 3 years ago
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Yarcofin? A degree is just a degree. It only means that he passed the University exams to earn the degree.
I am not taking anything away from him, because I am a University student. But, I am not naive enough to think that a diploma in economics is the answer in dealing with this economic crisis.
To deal with this crisis, you need leadership, confidence and trust. Harper has none of the requirements.
Nuff said.
lolitathebitch 3 years ago
There are certainly idiots going to University today,lolly.
You're living proof of that.
Fortunately for society at large, most University graduates are actually quite bright.
The fact is Harper did graduate from University with a degree in economics.
You shrug it off as if it off as if it means nothing because YOU are nothing.
To deal with this crisis, the leader of this country needs to ignore the empty-headed opinions of twits like you.
westeightyone 3 years ago 4
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West, go see your homosexual boyfriend...Uhh im sorry I think he dumped you???That's why you are so frustrated? Anyway, Harper has no background in economics other than his diploma. He is an author and a hockey historian, in case you didn't know.
Where do you see the economic skills? You know, I think you're in love with him. I bet you have a picture of him next to your single bed. Keep posting your insults West, bc I know that's all you have to offer.
lolitathebitch 3 years ago
Wow. Now you're attacking the gays, Lolly.
You use the word 'homosexual' when you want to INSULT someone.How homophobic of you.
Keep posting YOUR insults. They reveal a great deal about you.
westeightyone 3 years ago 4
That should have read: "You shrug it off as if it means nothing because YOU are nothing."
westeightyone 3 years ago
Did anyone notice the book sitting on the shelf: "Hot Air"?
jonrmcleod 3 years ago
I'm indifferent to a coalition, but I wish the PM didn't distort Canadians' understanding of the system further.
In a Parliamentary system, the government is who is able to command the confidence of the House.
We vote for the MPs, and from among them the gov forms. It's party discipline makes it appear as though Canadians vote for the ruling gov.
If we want to directly vote for our head of state, gov, etc., we need to change our system.
Fine by me, but let's not fool ourselves further.
Hyperpandas 3 years ago 2
EPIC FAIL
Jagi79 3 years ago 4
that french prick is a joke
sintetsu 3 years ago 2
call me crazy, but our prime minister ain't wearing his wedding ring!
kalch 3 years ago 2
Call me crazy, but I can't focus on Dion, just his books
oddjob 3 years ago 3
I know! I mean, what's "365 Jours" about? Is it just a really obviously named French-language calendar?
holycow818181 3 years ago
It means he's willing to suck dicks for votes.
Rata4You 3 years ago
Would you keep conversation clean kid! Harper is doing a fine job, Tell your left liberal angry people to stop!
EF2000CanFly 3 years ago
The accounting firm in which the gov't relies on for data to base forecasts and set policies has stated in the Global Mail that they can not be held responsible for what came out of Flaherty's mouth...there's NOTHING in Flaherty's position that is linked to the forecasts that were projected by the accounting firm. They were so concerned that they wanted to put it on record.
Tell us he's doing fine...the reality is different.
Rata4You 3 years ago
Listen.... we best keep the peace right now and reamin quite and fun loveing country. Dion is a serious fool for doing what he is doing for a last attempt to grasp the power.
Lets keep the peace in our country~
EF2000CanFly 3 years ago
bloc being partly in charge worries me a bit..
idlestation 3 years ago
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I agree with the NDP/Liberals..
But the Bloc are funny.. Literally anything that can be done to oust Harper, and they will do it without blinking.
I love it
Down with HArper!
codaquinn12 3 years ago
Harper Won So leave him alone! They can wait for there turn in 4 years. This shows that all they want is power... Plus Layton is a big Hypocrite!! When He lost he said he will have harper's back... look at what his doing now! What a big Hypocrite. Leave Harper alone his trying to do his job.
Takinittothestreets 3 years ago 4
The lefts have lost their minds... All but the most hardcore NDPers and Liberals have lost confidence in their parties... nice to see everyone's true colors... If their willing to team up with the Seps just to gain power it shows that their willing to compromise anything just because they all hate Harper... You can't build a platform on the fact that you all oppose one man for different reasons...
GaladhrimArcher 3 years ago 3
"Consensus is a... Canadian value."
Indeed.
JohnAdamCulligan 3 years ago
This "Crisis" is all about ethics. This coalition was planned before the last election. The Conservative government was re-elected and introduced a budjet that would get rid off public funding to all political parties, in order to save money. Then you have the opposition parties go insane because of that. If the opposition parties want more money they should engage with citizens in order to get more donations. This current situation nothing more than an attept to grab power by the opposition.
knightdrako 3 years ago 2
Exactly.
If they were really worried about the economy at all, they wouldn't have waited until after the 300 million dollar election to do it.
What a waste.
purplebrickroad 3 years ago
I think Harper must be held reponcible for much of this mess however in this economic global disaster it scares the bloody bejesus out of me that this bumbling light weight along with the antichrist Jack Layton and seperatists will run the country. May God have mercy on us. In a Potential seminal moment in the countrys history this video with poor framing, lighting and english is the best they can up with. A pox on all of your political houses. You all smell like shit.
raunchyraven 3 years ago 2
LOL !!! Dion dares Harper to face house of commons, Harper dares Dion to face his own party !!!
kirtapplante 3 years ago 2
I don't know much about Canadian politics, but after listening to that liberal leader (dion?), I smell a rat.
tyronebiggums3 3 years ago 6
More people need to smell the rat.
purplebrickroad 3 years ago 2
Stephen Harper has done great things for our country. He is honourable - an old fashioned qauality that today's politians don't have. The coalition is a bunch of whiners.
jenzeed 3 years ago 4
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I don't think Stephen Harper has been a great Prime Minister. He hasn't been a catastrophe, but he hasn't been great.
What I do like about the coalition is that Canada will not be governed in an arrogant kind of way like Harper and his friends have done for almost three years.
And, perhaps the house of commons will finally not be occupied by adults acting like school children. In short, it will be more productive. As a result, Canada will be more productive.
lolitathebitch 3 years ago