Svetlana Boginskaya - 1991 Worlds AA - Floor Exercise

[musicisinmeforever]

pathetic.

[peepers2221]

@musicisinmeforever oh? how was this pathetic?

[musicisinmeforever]

@peepers2221 It moves extremely slowly even for an artistic routine; the choreography looks like a high school level routine instead of an elite level routine (believe me, I just spent the past day at my high school's Regional Gymnastics meet); her tumbling is extremely easy, slow, and she lands with her chest to her knees instead of straight up. This is no where near the level of skill that most elite gymnasts in this time had.

[peepers2221]

@musicisinmeforever her middle pass was pretty difficult for the time. and her choreography is russian choregraphed with choregraphers people would probaly die to have.. aha. no offense but you sound jealous babe

and her tumbling was plany difficult for this time

[musicisinmeforever]

@peepers2221 I'm really not jealous. It's good, but it's not that amazing.

[musicisinmeforever]

@peepers2221

So...Russian choreography is the best you're saying??? If you haven't noticed, it's been years since Russians or ANY Eastern European countries have had a team worth sneezing at. (forgive me for ending my sentence with a preposition._

[peepers2221]

@musicisinmeforever plus for high school gymnastics you would be lucky to see double fulls? maybe your thinking college gymnastics or something....

[musicisinmeforever]

@peepers2221 There was at least one girl who had a double full in her routine. And mostly I meant the dancing and choreography looked like a high school routine...just like I said in the other comment.

[indiatree]

@musicisinmeforever I don't agree with you about the choreography or her artistic presense. But I do agree with you about her landings. She didn't take steps, but her chest was very low on the landings and that should have been factored into the score. She should have been given credit though for making a complete artistic statement here instead of just moving along while some unrelated music played in the background.

[musicisinmeforever]

@indiatree

The choreography, I personally think is rather boring. I suppose some of it works with the music, but in some parts it's just okay. However, I think that to be a supreme artistic gymnast, as Svetlana has been dubbed, you should have amazing choreography and lovely dancing as well as awe-inspiring tumbling and skills. Otherwise it's simply just dancing.

[indiatree]

@musicisinmeforever I don't disagree with you totally, but I don't think her tumbling was lackluster. Yes, it was less difficult than Bontas and Chusi, but they were the floor queens. Compare it with Zmeskal (the eventual AA winner) , and I think you will find that her tumbling is very competitive and holds up well by comparison. She is not just going through the motions. Yes, parts of the choreography could be beefed up, but she was trying to say something artistically which is rare.

[tedsler]

@musicisinmeforever Really? Let's just take this competition, '91 Worlds, and say who in your opinion had more innovative/suitable choreo than Boginskaya? She wasn't called the Queen of Movement for nothing. Her middle tumbling pass is pretty difficult as well, especially for a girl her height back in 1991. And her tumbling is slow? Her double back in the middle is pretty quick. Her double pike in the end is gorgeous albeit a bit low on landing I give you that. :)

[musicisinmeforever]

@tedsler

My only reply is this. If gymnastics was the exact same thing as dancing then this would be fine. However you cannot compensate for weaker tumbling passes with brilliant choreography. Choreography adds to a lovely routine. It shouldn't be the focus of the routine.

[tedsler]

@musicisinmeforever So technical elements should be in focus and choreography secondary? For me a FX should be a seamless blend of tumbling and dance/choreography, where the gymnast has to be in the right place at the right time for the movement to fit with the music. Sadly today there are so many preparations for pirouettes/jump requirements that the music seems to means less and less. They all do the technical bit, but how many actually 'perform' their routine?

[musicisinmeforever]

@tedsler

Now, I know she's not a gymnast today, but have you seen Mary Lou Retton's FX routine that she used in the '84 Olympics. That girl knew how to perform....and her tumbling was superb. She had strengths in both.

[tedsler]

@musicisinmeforever 'Double LO, tuck full-in, and a double tuck' versus 'piked full-in, RO 1 1/2 thru to double tuck and double pike' - Boginskaya shows more variety with her middle pass and pike. And as for performance, I guess it is down to subjectivity all over again. I don't see much choreo in MLR's routine, but that is probably because I come from a prof dance background and like Boginskaya's originality and not doing what every one else does. But hey it's all just opinions so why bother.

[spartyutube]

Wow- why was her Barcelona routine so much less difficult than this?  Every tumbling pass was better here- piked full-in instead of tucked, 1 1/2 through to a double back, not double twist, and pike to end instead of a tucked? She should have kept this routine!

[ItsNastiaFan101]

she looked so tired in Barcelona, I'd hate to see her try this routine there, she's probably die!

[lashenova]

I remember reading that she had a hige mental block with tumbling right around the time before the 92 games. The powers that be had lost faith in her, but at the same time she had a lot of expectations placed on her. She struggled with double tucks in training at the games when she used to be able to do double layouts in training just a year prior.

[Darkangel127]

She had an injury prior to the Games. And she looked much thinner and tired in Barcelona. I don't think she was in top form in 1992 (she actually looked stronger in 1996).

[QuadPencheeTurn]

Unfortunately, her best years were in between her two Olympics. She seemed sluggish in Barcelona...I don't think she would have landed these passes.

[KarenLovesGymnastics]

Svetlana is one of the best gymnasts ever! Go Sveta!

[hyperrach13]

she makes it look so easy. what score did she get?

[ft192]

She got a 9.95

[markoparko]

One of the best choreographed routines ever.