CLASSIC Raiders 9/10/78 - Holy Roller v. Chargers

[m1049]

man these announcers are naive

[GialloHorror]

HAHA! 6:03 are they playing in a parking lot? WTF are those cars doing there? lol.

That was a forward pass. I'm surpirsed The Raiders actually had a call go their way. Seemed like they got screwed a lot in the 70's

[GialloHorror]

Do you have this full game by any chance?

[AxeMastersinc1]

I for got about that crazy play. %)

[Jessyaaronlove]

huh? what happened? Timmy Liu of 15 Wildwood St. Andover MA is stupid

[teaspooon1]

they changed the rule tho.  after the 2:00 min warning if you fumble the ball the person who fumbled has to recover it.

[medfordcaniac7]

This is one of the funniest things I have ever seen. Stabler threw it forward but at the time no instant replay, he got away with it.... Good for him. Great video, I am impressed.

[richgannonrocks]

I lobe watching this at regular speed. I hate how all highlights now are in friggen slow motion

[richgannonrocks]

@richgannonrocks *love

[Mcnzlea]

In 2012 the Raiders will be the only remaining NFL team to contend with baseball infield dirt. A far cry from '78 when you saw it during early-season games played in: Atlanta, Baltimore, Cleveland, Milwaukee (Packers), Minnesota, New York (Jets), Oakland and San Diego. (San Francisco switched back to grass from artificial in '79; the Rams had it upon moving to Anaheim in '80). Another great aspect of football that is on life support.

As intense as an intrastate rivalry can get.

[TheNewsoul2]

There's a reason I love the Raiders of the 70's because they were smart, and brutal and kicked ass. You couldn't win over 75 percent of your games all due to cheating. They won those games because they were quick, explosive and powerful on offense and physical on defense. And the fact they had great coaching by Madden and Al Davis as the GM got him the players.

[UIWWildthing]

On the first play on the video, #50 would have been called for a chop block in this era of the NFL.Also, ouch the Colts were BAD that season, outscored 80-0 in their first 2 games.

[WatchVenusSpa]

Madden's last great moment as Raider coach. :(



[1992lance]

FUCK THE CHOKERS!! RAIDERS ALL DAY!!

[RobLayton87]

Remember the Chargers missed an extra point and if they made it. The game goes into O.T.

[patolucas91673]

It's funny to hear the announcers say that Stabler got the ball knocked loose. The color guy said it a few times.

[sashacougar]

Stabler pitched the ball forward, which was an incomplete forward pass in that or any era. Even if the refs were stupid enough to think it was a fumble, Banaszak threw it forward ,which is either an incomplete pass or unsportsmanlike conduct. Then Casper kicked the ball forward, which was unsportsmanlike conduct. Possibly the most incompetent sequence of officiating in league history.

[raider1297]

@sashacougar I think at least it kind of pays off by the incompetent refs always trying to screw the raiders, this is like the only play in history the Raiders get favored

[steet2]

@sashacougar get SALTY NERD. GO RAIDERS

[Bamaraider1]

@sashacougar sad isn't it........O well we still won.

[briank06261973]

This caused an entire section of the NFL rulebook to be changed so that forward fumbles were no longer allowed.

[FRSFreeStateES]

Holy Roller Batman!

[dubdagod26]

polamalu just got away with some shit like that yesterday. I guess it's only illegal if you get caught now

[smzig]

@dubdagod26 It was actually perfectly legal when this game was played. They changed the rules the next season. Steelers only got away with it cause they paid off the refs like usual. Shoulda saved their money for the game against us cause the Ravs put them in their place.

[kisscactus]

Way better than the one lousy view from NFL films. Thank you!

[NinjaWarrior88]

The play would have not been called back due to replay. The rule of no one being allowed to smack or roll the ball actually was created because of this play.

[LoveIndia15]

Like if you were watching Steelers/Pats game right now

[sundi712]

@LoveIndia15: yeah I had to see what play changed the rule. Some rules kinda suck. Although I am completely against the Pats (long-time Colts fan) it does look like they just got screwed out of getting one hail mary pass

[LoveIndia15]

@sundi712 I hear ya. I don't understand why they can't just review it then call a penalty. Could have completely changed the outcome.

[AshtonHutchinson]

@LoveIndia15 Like if you are watching this right now.

[quincee33]

Stabler and cliff Branch should both be in the HOF and i'm an Eagles fan. They deserve it. period.

[DanVelinski]

The play was legal at the time, later made illegal. Replay or not, I'm sure it would have stood. What a fun moment in NFL history. Sports are usually serious, but comic moments such as this just make me grin.

[JeXKJY5]

@DanVelinski That play wasn't even legal then if the players were purposely fumbling the ball forward that was illegal even then. The officials later said they could not prove that the Raiders were fumbling intentionally. The players after the game were quoted saying that they intentionally fumbled. This can't happen anymore because only the player who fumbled the ball can recover for extra yards. If a teammate recovers a forward fumble they get the ball back at the spot of the fumble.

[R8erNation636]

The three Charger fans who actually watch football disliked this video.

[JoeMontana49ers8190]

While i admit, the Raiders of the 70s were one of the best teams in NFL history. This play however is a great example if the importance of replays & challenges

If they had such things here this play would have been called back

[shakobenmyerz]

"Has the ball jarred out of his hands..." that's funny! haha

[jseph1234567890]

I think the "Tuck Rule" was the payback to the Raiders for this play...Two plays that will go down in infamy (though personally, I believe the Raiders got the worst of it, as usual)

[dolphinbuc]

There's nothing real in the world anymore!

[antmooak]

Gotta hear the Bill King broadcast.

[rowdymax1]

Bill King, Raiders radio announcer: "....the Raiders have won on the most zany, improbable play!!!!! John Madden is grinning from ear to ear...his face looks like a split watermelon!!!..."...classic

[billny33]

How come Dave Casper doesn't seem to realize nor care that he just won his team a football game?

[owlcu]

Very, very good acting job by the Raiders. No way this would stand today with all the super precise slow-mo cams and the right to challenge. He threw it, then it got thrown again, then it was dribbled like a basketball into the end zone. It's kinda funny they got away with it, though.

[theHerbanater]

the actual play is at 6:15

[SirReal1958]

This is SOOOO MUCH BETTER than Steve Sabol's LOUSY low-level angle shot on NFL Films. As a matter of fact, ALL network video replays are better than ANYTHING NFL Films puts out.

[HinesXL]

@SirReal1958 I agree but without NFL Films we wouldn't have seen any replays over the years because the networks or NFL were tight asses ans still are on Yotube with any stuff removed.

[Mitube]

@SirReal1958 I like the broadcast as well, but show some respect to NFL Films. The original broadcasts aren't always out on DVDs cause the rights to re-distribute the actual games from the networks are VERY expensive, which is why you don't always see them.

[MisterEvasion]

@SirReal1958 - I agree. I agree and agree again. With this you get the mood of the game, the announcers as people saw and heard it on their TV screens back in the 1970s. It captures this and many other great moments in the NFL by LEAPS and BOUNDS over NFL films. I don't want to knock NFL films too much, they have their place as an ALTERNATE view of a given play. Also, NFL films present good documentaries on legendary coaches and players which I like.

[1992lance]

@SirReal1958 Comed on man...Steve Sabol is one of the reasons why NFL Films gets views. I don't mind that you don't like him (your opinion), but please don't basmouth me about me thinking otherwise. Why don't you like him?

[AllPro777]

This was when the Raiders were beasts. Now, they're the Jokeland Faders. They beat more people in the stands than on the field, lol.

[pfjk47]

The announcers are horrible. Every play to me shows that Stabler rolls the ball forward and the announcers keep saying it gets knocked out of his hands. I don't see it.

[TheProducerDirector]

Too bad Fouts never had a good defense! He would have been wearing a few rings by now.

[riotusa1]

@TheProducerDirector Fouts had a good defense in 1979 and 1980 giving up just 246 and 327 pts respectively and having over 50 sacks both years. In 79 they had no running game and Houston exploited that in the playoffs. in 1980 they just ran into a buzz saw in the streaking Raiders in the AFC championship. It wasnt until they lost Fred Dean among others in 1981 that the defense fell apart giving up 390 points

[robphilll22]

Jim Simpson the second banana all those years on NBC.

[MrLehnerd]

But its Oakland n SD chargers i remember this what a odd endin.....But alas its over get pass the past....

[mjwatts1983]

Why Lisa Simpson likes the Raiders.... because they always cheat

[RaiderRey37]

Thanks for posting. Love seeing the Raider legends play.

[Navdan87]

Madden really LOVED that blue shirt..he wears it every clip I see of him...

[NoGoodBoyo1000]

@ AllAmerican1964 Officials cheating FOR the Raiders? Ridiculous talk.

[texmexman1]

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL HAHAHA

[mmcneil777]

The raiders had a lot of 'money' players and cataylsts, as well as solid dependable players. They were wild, but where a 'team'. They haven't had any of those qualities in years. The lost there 'mojo' when they went down to LA. It started going down-hill after Davis tried to black ball Marcus Allen. Allen was a true Raider with 'start power'.

[mmcneil777]

Back when the Raiders had 'poise'...

[Wallsguy]

Raiders247online, thanks for the post...awesome. I remember jumping for joy after seeing this unbelievable "Holy Roller" play. Too bad Snake had a bad year in 1978 (mostly due to fact that Biletnikoff was benched in favor of Morris Bradshaw), if not, we would have made the playoffs.

[DMan6500]

@Wallsguy The Raiders did make the playoffs that year, but lost to the Broncos in the AFC Championship game.

[GemCan78]

@DMan6500 I presume you're talking about the 77 Raiders, who were a wildcard in the AFC West...the Broncos beat them in the AFC Championship at Mile High, 20-17, on New Years Day 1978...could you imagine, a Conference Championship game being played on New Years Day? Wow...

[AllAmerican1964]

@DMan6500 That was 1977 that they got beat by the Broncos! This game was the second game of the season of 1978 and they did not make the playoffs that year!

[edmari440]

Wow even back in the day, the Raiders had their other home games at Jack Murphy.

[yurolson]

@edmari440 - they got the home calls but there were hardly any Raider fans there - maybe 2000 max.

[raiders1967]

Jim Simpson was a wonderfull announcer.

[Stuartdouglas19]

Casper doesn't even celebrate - he knows it shouldn't have counted!

[pgraybengal]

Smart play by the Raiders there back then you could advance a fumble forward!! Clearly done with intent but those Raiders teams were very smart!!!!

[AEMoreira81]

@pgraybengal Actually you have it reversed, you could advance a fumble forward in this situation. After the season, the rules were changed so that on 4th down, or the last two minutes of the game, only the fumbling player can advance a fumble.

[exxcalibur1973]

Lol, fuk me that some dumb ass commentating.

[Devitron5000]

This is my first time seeing the actual game footage of this. From the NFL Films footage it looked like the ball only traveled a total of 5 yards. Either way, how the HELL could the zebras allow this when they could've (and SHOULD have now that I've seen the live footage) ruled it an incomplete pass?

[gjs78]

Should never have changed rules on this; Miss seeing the Block Letter G in front of the goaline too. No team in the NFL has it anymore; 

[amd77j]

Wow, nice to hear Jim Simpson's voice doing this game!!!

[invadr1]

what the fuck are those cars doing in the background of the end zone someone can run into one of them and break their leg, dumb fucks in 1970's I guess, will never see that shit these days.

[hlewis420]

Typical cheating Faiders, led by the useless drunk Stabler

[amd77j]

@hlewis420 Raider Rule #1: Cheating is encouraged. Raider Rule #2: See Rule #1. LOL.

[Yankee4Life]

@amd77j They didn't cheat you stupid fuck. This was not against the rules.

[amd77j]

@Yankee4Life Didn't say they did, Ms. Retard for Life. Learn how to read and comprehend, silly bitch.

[Yankee4Life]

@amd77j I'm not a woman you fucking homo. Piss off.

[amd77j]

@Yankee4Life You are unsure of whatever you are,obviously, since you can't comprehend. Well, get this- YOU ARE A BITCH. Got it? And yeah go piss on yourself, Drag Queen.

[yurolson]

@Yankee4Life FORWARD PASS even underhanded when it hits the ground makes the ball dead, If you think Stabler fumbled then you are not seeing how his arm moved forward. Banazak never has possession so he can't fumble. 2 successive forward passes - illegal. Period. even then

[socalscottie80s]

Warren Moon gets in to the Hall of Fame... ON THE FIRST BALLOT and Kenny Stabler is STILL waiting?!? W T F ?????

[sageofsuccess]

I think Banaszak (#10) definitely pushed it forward on purpose.

[zenmachinefilms]

Thanks for posting this. Great o see the last several plays of the drive as they were broadcast. Quite possibly the worst non-call in NFL history. But it's not like the Raiders were a lucky team of cheaters. They were one of the best in NFL history. Sometimes it takes something like this to clarify the rules, which they did after this season.

[cthluthlu]

The most infamous non called case of intentional grounding in NFL history. A group of Pee Wee league refs could have done a better job than the clowns officiating that day. Couldn't believe how clueless the announcers were too. They had the benefit of several replays and still couldn't recognize the fraud that had just unfolded right in front of them. Utterly preposterous.

[sxwrulz]

Also its a shame Stabler isn't in the Hall of Fame.

[sxwrulz]

A truly historic touchdown that changes the rules of the game forever. One of the top 2-3 touchdowns in NFL history.

[invadr1]

@sxwrulz Franco Harris & Sherman Edwards maybe 1-2.

[sxwrulz]

@invadr1 Yea the Immaculate Reception is #1 for sure I think this is #2. I have the video the NFL's 100 Greatest Touchdowns and it has the Immaculate Reception #1 and Holy Roller #2.

[Sexpistols15151]

LETS GO OAKLAND. BAD OR GOOD I STILL BLEED BLACK AND SILVER.

[conlanding]

Chargers LB Woodrow Lowe (#51) who tackled Ken Stabler and forced his fumble that led to the "Holy Roller" play was the Raiders LB's coach in 2001 under then Raiders coach Jon Gruden when they lost the "Tuck Rule" game at New England.

[yurolson]

@conlanding - wow - very cool anecdote! crazy life…

[JordanSanders1991]

Paul King after game: Ken did you fumble intentionally?

Stabler: YOU BET YOUR ASS I DID!!

[duppydoopy]

@JordanSanders1991 you mean Bill King...........

[muntzman4sho]

CLASSIC, is THIS THE ORIGINAL BROADCAST??

[duppydoopy]

@muntzman4sho yeah its the original..........

[Terryfan]

I'm sure that if the NFL had challenges back then it may have been overturn but then again This game is one of those games that when you talk about it you are going to hear different opinions of it.

[TheReason77]

I FUCKIN LOVE IT!!!!! As many times as the Raiders have gotten the short end of bullshit IT WAS TIME for something to go our way!!!

[lishsc3]

Let me tell ya something....It's dissgusting when the whole country can see that Stabler threw the ball forward, and then it was thrown forward for A SECOND TIME, and the Referees watch it happen, and CHOOSE not to blow the whistle! I'm not a Chargers fan, nor a Raider hater but it is so messed up when one team deserves to win and because the men in stripes decide that THEY want Oakland, they just ignor the most OBVIOUS incomplete passes ever!!

[JackFury]

@lishsc3 like has been said before, the rules at the time allowed this. It was a blatant exploitation of the rules, but it was legal from a technical standpoint

hence the rules have changed now

[Eclipton]

@lishsc3 The reason why the ref didn't rule incomplete was because from the way he was positioned behind Stabler he couldn't see his arm going foward, which the refs are required by rule to see in order to rule incomplete. Thankfully for Chargers fans this didn't have too much of an immediate impact. It didn't screw them out of the playoffs or a championship game.

[AllAmerican1964]

@Eclipton Hey dude, this game did screw the Chargers out of the playoffs.....if they win this game, they would have been 10-6 and would have been a wild card team over Houston which they beat on the last game of the season!  The officials screwed the Chargers this game royally, that was a forward pass and not a fumble! Typical Raiders, always having the officials cheat for them!!

[rayjr62]

@AllAmerican1964 This game was 33 years ago. Get over it. Moreover, get a life.

[Jelperman]

@AllAmerican1964

Actually, if the Chargers had won this game Tommy Prothro more than likely would have kept his job -at least for a while- and that means no Don Coryell for the Chargers. The game that really screwed them out of the playoffs was the second KC game where James Harris played QB in place of an injured Dan Fouts. If they had won that one or the NE or Miami games, they would have made the playoffs as a division winner or wild card.

[IWHBYF]

@AllAmerican1964 You mad bro?

[yurolson]

@Eclipton - you must be aware that this play was the beginning of the end of Prothro in SD? The real end came a few weeks later. A GB DB named Willy had 4 picks as SD was shut out!. 1 & 4 was the record - out goes Prothro on Monday. OnTuesday, in walks a chap named Coryell. Later that season SD beats the Raiders in Oakland for the first time since 1968! helping Madden out the door. This play changed rules as well as influenced nfl history. IT was HUGE…

[jsteptoe36]

The Chargers, need to resorect, these uniforms!!!

[jsteptoe36]

Boy, "Sperry NFL Report", that is a "Blast" from the past!!!

[SD1Chargers]

Chargers had no pash run then...and they have none today...btw how can a pass play take 2 seconds? Our own time keeper screwed us

[adfg]

Warfield's color commentary is very poor because it is obvious that banasak intentionally threw the ball towards the end zone and did not fumble it.

[WuTangShogun36]

raiders deserved at least 3 super bowls other than the ones they won. If not for the steelers though......

[Ratmouth66]

Im a Payton Manning fan currently...but Kenny Stabler was a serious hardass LOL

[09164]

1:11 - 1:15

That's what I'm talking about.

[MAJORDRUMMER]

This brings back such memories . The Raiders finally got one . Where did you get this footage ?

[paul353]

its incompetent officials like these that are the reason we have to endure replay delays today. That was clearly a thrown ball by Stabler

[reenactor19th]

@paul353 intentional fumbles were legal. after he hit stabler's hand, and the ball comes out, it counted as a fumble.

[abqwriter]

@reenactor19th The replays they showed after this screwy play happened showed Stabler's arm NEVER went forward so it had to be a fumble..But what the dude did to scoot the ball forward to the goal line should have had the Chargers screaming Bloody Murder. The NFL had to change the rules to "prevent" something like this from happening again but thanks to the Tuck Rule and the Haukli Rule, something like this could happen again.

[abqwriter]

@reenactor19th The replays they showed after this screwy play happened showed Stabler's arm NEVER went forward so it had to be a fumble..then it looks like a Charger kicked the ball forward to make it scoot towards the goal line. The NFL had to change the rules to "prevent" something like this from happening again but thanks to the Tuck Rule and the Haukli Rule, something like this could happen again.

[abqwriter]

@paul353 Under the rules at the time Paul everything that the Raiders did was legal on this play. The NFL had to change the rules to "prevent" something like this from happening again.

[abqwriter]

@paul353 Under the rules at the time Paul everything that the Raiders did was legal on this play. The NFL had to change the rules to "prevent" something like this from happening again but it could happen again thanks to the Tuck Rule and the Haukli Rule.

[reignman2112]

what a bunch of haters...check out all the fuckin calls that have gone against the raiders. one of them listed on this page, the denver/lytle fumble call. that's just one of many, so shut yer pieholes, and deal with it..

[russ99a]

If the Bolts defense wasn't dog food, the Raiders wouldn't have been in position to pull this off. So as a Charger fan since before well before then and a long history of dirty Raider play, this doesn't rile me so much.

Hayes or Haynes taking out Kellen Winslow's knee was much worse.

[danesesrocky76]

The Dirtiest, Sneakiest ,Team ever to play In the NFL, Your Oakland Raiders!

[jimromerulez]

@danesesrocky76

Proud member of the raider nation. Raiders v the world. Worst call of all time, the BS tuck rule

[reenactor19th]

@danesesrocky76 but entertaining.

[00ricardo1]

foward lateral by Banazak

[ycdtotv]

I always found it amusing that the Raiders claim they've gotten robbed by the officials throughout their history, yet they're always the ones pulling stunts like these.

[neneshubby]

@ycdtotv You have a point but there have been a lot more calls against then calls for the Raiders. And they usually happen during the playoffs & not the regular season.

[gojenson]

i wonder if john madden's love for brett favre was realized then

[cbaldwinjr]

Epic. Just epic.

[raiders247online]

Paul Warfied is the other announcer

[IowaRocker1]

Jim Simpson is the PBP man. Who is the color man? Is it Gene Washington?

[rjflesher]

@IowaRocker1 Paul Warfield is the color man; they mention it at the very end