Guys touching this area is no good. If someone does this to you while you are choking them, and you let go, then your are extremely soft and you need to man up.
This area is the ulnar nerve. But you can' t apply enough pressure to do any harm unless hou hit it with your knuckles from underneath with an upper cut strike. Your timing has to be perfect with the strike because you don't have enough time. The choke he is using is useless anyway. He should be using what we call the police choke hold.
I watch all these self defense videos and I don't see any that show how to get out of a situation when an attacker use a chain, rope or wire to choke you. A real rapist in the states sadly used a 3 wire device to attack many victims. Some died from the chocking. Is there a way to get out of that?
I work in a state hospital for the criminally insane and a male staff just got choked out recently, so I'm watching this hoping it will help me if it ever happens to me. Thanks.
@Michael123... the reason you don't see stuff like that in the UFC is 1. because there is a rule against pressure point attacks, and 2. Generally speaking an athlete conditioned to take the punishment they take would be relatively unaffected by this. I have been training MMA for about 2 years now and even at my level we experience significantly worse than this. In a street situation this might have enough merit to buy you some time to run. which is all you need in that case.
- You know when u hit the bottom of your elbow on something really hard and it kind of gives you a feeling as u have had an electric shock to your elbow? This technique acts upon that same nerve on your body, the ulnar nerver. When the nerve is secured and pressed against the bone it causes and extremelly discomfort and not even a 250lb 6'5 WWE wrestler would sustain the pain.
come on this is surely just a wind-up. If so I applaud it. The expression on the guy's face who is applying the choke is absolute genius. I just hope no-one believes this is real
bullshit, i just tried this on my arm while it tense, in that position, it hurts but it doesn't stop my muscles working at all man, and i ain't massive build. so yeah would definitely not work against anyone with muscle
lol guys, if ur doing some kind of fighting plus go to gym and do lots of bench pressing and stuff for ur lower and upper arms etc, u cant reach this point anymore... wtf
cool video anyways, but i prefer another great trick from my arsenal.
step one: he reaches around and chokes you
step two: take ur left hand and reach for the desert eagle under the table
ill reserve judgement on tis but it looks like it shouls work. love the helicopter hat too. but guys please let other people bestow titles or on my next upload I will call myself godlike. also btw in Japanese common usage sensai denotes someone given the title by a small group of fauning cult like followers the more traditional meaning still applying but you have to be careful how you use it.
what you don't do is call yourself sensai
i wonder what would happen with a correct rear naked??
I'm working on seated techniques and will try this tonight at class. Thanks for sharing it. Also I'll comment on the detractors: In my opinion you shouldn't rely on any one technique as a sure thing. Granted this may not work on a 300lb gorilla but it's just another tool in your arsenal to protect yourself (nothing more, nothing less).
That was funny. I would be like, ready? Go. And then when he is fiddling around trying to find his pressure point, I would squeeze his head so hard his neck would break in seven places and then I would drag him off of his chair across the room while little gurgled sounds are coming out of his soon to be dead mouth. Good job on that self defense vid. I would not purposely hurt someone, but seriously that's what would happen if I where doing a choke and he used that to defend himself.
Why dont you use a big burly guy to choke you? And I would not call that "real" intent to choke on the part of the skinny guy behind. this would be a very difficult choke to break if locked in tightly and squeezed with full force.
8-10 seconds and it would be alllllllll over. Anyone who couldn't withstand the pain of having their balls removed for 10-seconds to achieve a kill deserves to have the table turned upon them.
thank you sensei's for showing your technique in this video. I have read the comments and many are negative. I don't want to perpetuate old arguments but simply ask a question. If the choker is a bodybuilder or has a large forearm do you think this technique is still going to be effective if applied correctly and all other things remaining the same? I am travelling I can't practice this on someone i know
Try this on yourself while actually using some muscle. It completely blocks that pressure point that wouldn't have worked in the first place. Videos like this only build false confidence.
lol not n effective techniques... just think about a guy with a BIG arm, u wont be able to do this techniques if u just cant grab on his elbow... dont try this sh!t on streets u wont have enough time to search for pressure points... ull be already on the ground with a guy chokin u from behind
looks pretty effective against the guy in the video who appears to weigh 120 lbs with the bone density of a 10 year old girl. I doubt it would work against anyone bigger. And that is not a real choke hold, that's the kind of choke hold you see in WWF or shit like that.
@mmfm426 The 175lb man that is 6'2" and 53 years old will be happy to hear your oppion. I am sure the WWF and all the other TV stars will be glade that you are feeling that their real.
@HoShinRyuMaster so if demian or palhares sunk in a rear naked on someone you're telling us that squeezing his elbow is really going to make him relinquish the hold? if this technique works why has it not been utilized in a single adcc bout?
Without any formalities, in a quicker situation; say on the street... wouldn't it be best to distract the attacker with an elbow to their lower body, or a stop on the foot, then try to position a leg behind in order to attempt to throw the attacker, or at least tangle them up enough to trip with or without you?
this does work its a nerve in the body(funny bone nerve) its painful if you push on it, if your determend,Ive done alot of martial arts aikdio is the main but i like this move if it doesnt work im sure you can improvise
Master Lee, I don't mean to disrespect but if this is so effective why don't we see it in the UFC or other such like MMA competitions?
By the way, I do not have your stature. But I do have 30 years of martial arts experience and have seen and experienced the usage of pressure point techniques. The ones that really work are the ones that are lethal or can cause real injury (f.e. throat and eyes) but in my experience pain inducing pressure points will not work when your attacker is determined.
First off I have used this many times and it does work in most cases. And I did not feel disrespected . But as to there be more dangerous forms to show I know hundreds of ways to get out of choke hold. But with the many stupid thing that people do. I WOULD NEVER SHOW THEM TO UNTRAINED PEOPLE ON YOUTUBE BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO DANGEROUS!!!!
@HoShinRyuMaster And it is this veil of secrecy that has allowed some martial arts to continue to exist rather than be exposed to the world. I have no doubt that you are a master of your art. I do however discredit any art that uses as its basis for expertise its own self apointed experts.
If you've used this "many times" in real life, would you not characterize that as a systematic failure of your self-defense skills? Your ability to recognize potentially dangerous situations and avoid them may need to be brushed up.
As for "hundreds of ways to get out of choke hold," how many do you need? If the creator of your "art" had found one way worth passing on to students, would not the rest have been discarded?
@Micahel213 I don't know why are you being so negative. I'm training karate for 11 years and since WKF rules aren't allowing us dangerous techniques from karate I started to explore everything useful on YT. I was exploring these pressure points while I was visiting my first aid class we were thought that pressure points will stop the bleeding below that spot. I tried to squeeze mine and it hurt a lot... since then I tried to "calm" my opponents many times with these pressure points. IT WORKS!
Dude, I don't know in what medieval class you get your training. But you don't stop a bleeding using 'pressure points'. Direct pressure to the wound is the only advisable thing to do. Unless you want to complicate things by crushing an arterie.
You think if this would be effective they wouldn't use it in mma-fights against the rear naked choke? Btw, I've competed internationally under WKF-rules. And I can't imagine a situation in which pressure point techniques are applicable.
@Micahel213 I didn't say that I used it in WKF kumite but in RL. This is not the only pressure point and bigger opponents can be controlled by that - neck to shoulder pressure point, which is even easier to get and control someone. And about MMA "real" fight or this choke escape "presentation"... you can not compare these two. In this video he is calm and he knows what to do. When you're really being choked while adrenaline is in your blood this might not be the first thing to get in your head.
That neck to shoulder pressure is easily ignored. If you want to use a pressure point use one that would give a notion of serious harm. Meaning eyes, throat, groin and the likes.
So you use your techniques 'IRL'? What are you? Doorman, security guard, police officer? (school teacher? :-) )
@Micahel213 I am not saying this technique works or not, that nerve point is very sensitve. However, the reason you don't see these things in MMA is because: 1) The gloves make this sort of manipulation almost impossible 2) Some MMA events outlaw some small nerve point attacks and small joint manipulations.
Largely, it is the gloves that make a lot of traditional techniques difficult. You aren't going to get a good wrist lock on someone with gloves and tape and wraps for example.
True enough. Certain joint manipulations and pressure point attacks are not allowed in competition. And gloves and tape does render some techniques ineffective. However, the problem with techniques like the one demonstrated is that they are hard to apply under duress and when someone is really trying to choke you the adrenaline makes him insensible to these kind of pain impulses.
As a correction officer, pressure points are part of our training. Either for self defense or controlling an inmate. 99.9% of us are no masters in those techniques and they are not always the best alternative to a situation, but in many situation they are very effective. Most of the time all you need is a split second of distraction on your attacker to take control. IMO pressure points works when you know what your doing and know when to use them.
pressure points do work, IF YOU CAN HIT THEM! its like trying to shoot a fly with a pistol. In theory its sound but in real life its clumsy and dangerous. Oh and by the way, I've studied several martial arts including this one, and quite honestly: Silat, jiujitsu, Hapkido, and Krav Maga are much more effective for Self defense. Don't believe me? your already on youtube, look it up!
@capnstanky That's why he had a rly skinny guy do it. Thanks, I was wondering why he would have somebody, who's choke hold you could break outta with sheer strength. :D
yeah iv heard of lots of things in self defence but its easier said than done cos in a street fight u panic and dont think, its like wen people say how to disable a dog if it attacks u, i remember wen a rottweiler attacked me few yrs ago i was walking down street and it ran out of a lane and grabbed my arm i paniced then eventualy i started punching it in the head til it let go and ran of
@ma4real There is no Debate when you don't know enough to judge and when you are insulting and don't show any respect. I don't need to defend my techniques to you, without any knowledge of my style you are not qualified to argue with me. You are not the honorable one by continueing to be insulting. Which why I am reporting you to YouTube.
@lowkickr1 It is only to those who have not been trained in pressure points for defense, that would see it as weak.. I have 55 years of training in the arts when you have that many years behind you, your remarks will have more respect for other martial artist..
Wow, wasnt expecting that. usually you see some bullshit ridiculous technique here, but that might actually work. Can you explain why that hurts so much?
like fuck dose that work lol what happens if you have a massive muscular guy not a whimp, when you cant get at the nerves ,and why dosnt every ufc fighter use that trick hmm mayby because it dosnt work lol
or alternitively grab the top of his thumb and wrench it down to your stomach and break free with a few elbow to the face and ribs. thats what several Krav Maga black belts recommend.
this works you must put your thump there then find a bone i can't tell you which name is but if you pressure that part you can actually make him drop you
That choke hold isn't that powerful. Granted the average person doesn't know how to do a full choke hold, but the other arm should go behind the kneck rather than holding the wrist.
No disrespect Sensei. My experience is this PP does not often work on men with larger muscular arms and women seldom posses the grip-strength to do it to average men.
It is clear that many in here do not know what they are talking about. Muscles have nothing to do about presure points, its like solar plexus, you can have great abs but you cant protect that certain point. Of course it is hard to get of in a fight, but that is why you practice, to make the specific techniques perfect
I train into a mma kung fu style, and just tonight we pratice escaping rear choke, and I tell you the most pratical way is to it the pressur point. Some are more muscular but even on the biggest and buff guys in the class this work...
I done mean to sound offensive but I'd like to see this done on a good mma or BJJ guy with good rear nakes chokes, I personally think you'd end up unconcious, if you can get it to work I'd be well impressed
There is some common sense in what your saying regarding top fighters in the world. Keep in mind that most self defense techniques wont work on those guys as they are trained to counter your every moves. Against a normal "Joe" on the street it might just give you the split second you need to take control or withdraw yourself from that current attack. Pressure points works a lot better with the element of surprise. Trying this on an aware attackers wont have the same result.
Bwahahahahah pressure points, what a load of bollocks. We had some pressure point guys come down to our club a while ago, fuuniest thing I've seen. The white belts demolished them and we never saw them again. Add adrenaline, heart rate & striking.
Your opion is welcome but your manors are not. Not everyone is real and not everyone can do these techniques. They are not for everyone. Only the truely dedicated can do them.
this only works on ppl who dont have that much muscle. The pressure point thing dont work when theres a lot of muscle covering it. Not only does it not work on muscled ppl, it's also hard to get off in a fight since its such a specific point.
Unless u can put an elbow on it or something, theres no way ur teeny thumb can aply enough pressure to make a difference.
you can also reach over there shoulder and put ur hand infront of there face then push up right under there nose forcing there head back and they will have to let go
it really depends, the traditional "rear naked choke" with the left hand pushing the head down has a clear weakness as all one has to do is remove the left hand from your head to releave pressure. the "clasping hands" technique is a lot harder to reverse and not only is a blood choke but also blocks the windpipe, however it is harder to maintain control of your opponent. mat hughes of the ufc won one of his majior fights (so majior i forgot which one, lol) with the clasping hands technique.
Entirely compliant and the uke had no idea how to do a RNC.
If you are on youtube you can find a video that will show you how to do it better than that. Also that "nerve point" is simply a mild annoyance and I can assure you it would not be effective.
Hehe, I just tried this on myself. It works!, but you have to find the funny bone just right. Hey can you tell me if it is possible to cause temporary paralysis by hitting a nerve, although without damaging it?
Actually if a person truly studies pressure points and practices them it will work. But as many only study the physical parts they don't always get the Ki or Chi points of the martial arts.
Yeah, this choke isn't very effective anyways.
titaniumacc 3 weeks ago
Guys touching this area is no good. If someone does this to you while you are choking them, and you let go, then your are extremely soft and you need to man up.
IFironfingers 2 months ago
This area is the ulnar nerve. But you can' t apply enough pressure to do any harm unless hou hit it with your knuckles from underneath with an upper cut strike. Your timing has to be perfect with the strike because you don't have enough time. The choke he is using is useless anyway. He should be using what we call the police choke hold.
IFironfingers 2 months ago
You're welcome! :)
TheJaggedChin 5 months ago
this technique works if you don't believe me just press the pressure point on your own elbow and see for yourself
abhikundu86 6 months ago
Unpractical will never work unless he has down syndrome.
TheDarceChoke 7 months ago
About 10% of folks don't have that nerve cluster. Always have a plan B in mind. :)
Harbisondude 7 months ago
tottal bullshit
AgentSmiley 8 months ago
I watch all these self defense videos and I don't see any that show how to get out of a situation when an attacker use a chain, rope or wire to choke you. A real rapist in the states sadly used a 3 wire device to attack many victims. Some died from the chocking. Is there a way to get out of that?
chelyfranco1 8 months ago
I'll give it a try at (mma) practise :) thanks XD
JumperFrank 8 months ago
In 0:33, the guy looked like Arnold Schwarznegger. :P
rshackerpro1 9 months ago
Hahaha he does the fuckin choke wrong first of all so yeeeaaahhh that doesn't work
sharpninjato 9 months ago
What if I don't have a chair to sit in when he attacks me?
JCMcGee 10 months ago
...and you didn't draw from your strong-side holster and shoot him in the ear, why?
cptexas1 11 months ago
XD the eckerman dude looks so serious when he puts him in the chokehold
Queenlelani 11 months ago
I work in a state hospital for the criminally insane and a male staff just got choked out recently, so I'm watching this hoping it will help me if it ever happens to me. Thanks.
nogod65 11 months ago
@Michael123... the reason you don't see stuff like that in the UFC is 1. because there is a rule against pressure point attacks, and 2. Generally speaking an athlete conditioned to take the punishment they take would be relatively unaffected by this. I have been training MMA for about 2 years now and even at my level we experience significantly worse than this. In a street situation this might have enough merit to buy you some time to run. which is all you need in that case.
MTLJOKER 11 months ago
I could endure the 4 seconds of pain as I tighten the choke hold and put you to sleep till your limp hand will just fall off the pressure point.
TheDapgachef 11 months ago
with all due respect, he CLEARLY did not "really try to choke you".
kenfo0 11 months ago
he isnt choking him right
clokedbigman 1 year ago
yeah rigth
efrette 1 year ago
squeeze the point yourself it actually hurts
madd0gsquid 1 year ago
instead of squeezing, just pop 'em in the "funny bone"
PeeteyP 1 year ago
Please..... This is funny! It will only piss off the person attacker even more - which means you will just be choked out faster.
popsnoz 1 year ago
is that BOB on the right!
lol, he is just so funny,
shows up almost every fight instruction clip i watch.
wonder how he's doing.
i should totally call him this week.
ilovegreysforever 1 year ago
the eyes of a love child of david blaine and a paedophile from 0:33 - 0:38 :'D!!!
SporkyD 1 year ago
- You know when u hit the bottom of your elbow on something really hard and it kind of gives you a feeling as u have had an electric shock to your elbow? This technique acts upon that same nerve on your body, the ulnar nerver. When the nerve is secured and pressed against the bone it causes and extremelly discomfort and not even a 250lb 6'5 WWE wrestler would sustain the pain.
jpbraziliano 1 year ago
wow...he was REALLY trying to choke you out? please.
OneCommunityTaiChi 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
you are full of shite
cowie0837 1 year ago
uahahaha
undayag 1 year ago
The best thing to do in a choke hold is get at the eyes ahahha or if not just throw punches at the persons face(x
heavymetalisdeadly 1 year ago
What a crock of bullshit.
Blndrfist 1 year ago
If i force my self to choke you, i won't mind getting a little hurt while choking you....
Some people bite and people don't let go... i doubt this will work...
*yes i was just curious and put my finger on the bone xD*
pokerockman 1 year ago
come on this is surely just a wind-up. If so I applaud it. The expression on the guy's face who is applying the choke is absolute genius. I just hope no-one believes this is real
TheGraciefighter101 1 year ago
bullshit, i just tried this on my arm while it tense, in that position, it hurts but it doesn't stop my muscles working at all man, and i ain't massive build. so yeah would definitely not work against anyone with muscle
RAAAWRimapenguin 1 year ago
umm dude this doesn't seem that effective i think ur gonna get somebody hurt......
MissRLady 1 year ago
lol guys, if ur doing some kind of fighting plus go to gym and do lots of bench pressing and stuff for ur lower and upper arms etc, u cant reach this point anymore... wtf
cool video anyways, but i prefer another great trick from my arsenal.
step one: he reaches around and chokes you
step two: take ur left hand and reach for the desert eagle under the table
step three: kaboooooooom, headshot, multikill
duertoadr 1 year ago
ill reserve judgement on tis but it looks like it shouls work. love the helicopter hat too. but guys please let other people bestow titles or on my next upload I will call myself godlike. also btw in Japanese common usage sensai denotes someone given the title by a small group of fauning cult like followers the more traditional meaning still applying but you have to be careful how you use it.
what you don't do is call yourself sensai
i wonder what would happen with a correct rear naked??
nilbymouse 1 year ago
Weepaul666- haven't seen in mma because pressure points r illegal in it
ptrev4 1 year ago
@ptrev4 But pressure points are not mentioned under the unified rules of MMA.
Reemer00 1 year ago
I'm working on seated techniques and will try this tonight at class. Thanks for sharing it. Also I'll comment on the detractors: In my opinion you shouldn't rely on any one technique as a sure thing. Granted this may not work on a 300lb gorilla but it's just another tool in your arsenal to protect yourself (nothing more, nothing less).
5WHOAR 1 year ago
That was funny. I would be like, ready? Go. And then when he is fiddling around trying to find his pressure point, I would squeeze his head so hard his neck would break in seven places and then I would drag him off of his chair across the room while little gurgled sounds are coming out of his soon to be dead mouth. Good job on that self defense vid. I would not purposely hurt someone, but seriously that's what would happen if I where doing a choke and he used that to defend himself.
s4lly 1 year ago
meh. Tried it - doesn't work.
x666666x 1 year ago
If I want to kill you, I'm not going to let go...even if you are CHEWING on my nads.
You will die.
I'll deal with my nads 10-minutes later.
In fact, if you are causing me pain as I escort you out, I'll probably take the time to pop your eyes like over-ripe grapes for payback beforehand.
Prometheus1st 1 year ago
Nice face 0:35 :-D
ofargiuqabipap 1 year ago
Why haven't I seen any mma fighters use this then?
weepaul666 1 year ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
spoonman73 1 year ago
Why is the skinny guy looking at me like that?
cologro 1 year ago 4
Why dont you use a big burly guy to choke you? And I would not call that "real" intent to choke on the part of the skinny guy behind. this would be a very difficult choke to break if locked in tightly and squeezed with full force.
senseisays52 1 year ago
@senseisays52
8-10 seconds and it would be alllllllll over. Anyone who couldn't withstand the pain of having their balls removed for 10-seconds to achieve a kill deserves to have the table turned upon them.
Prometheus1st 1 year ago
This is nonsence, well done ascrawnt guy with tiny arms cant apply a choke. That defence is totally ridiculous.
Compliant drills teach u very little. If u want to get people to be able to defend themselves you need to train them in an alive enviroment.
Real speed, real timing, real resistance.
tillerbear 1 year ago
That may be the worst rear naked choke application in the history of mankind.
s216674 1 year ago
nice. i did this and broke a kids arm
colton12344321 1 year ago
it works when ppl play along but ineffective in a real fight
prettykitty2272 1 year ago
LMAO i love the look on the dude's face when he gives him the choke hold!!
miller2235 1 year ago
thank you sensei's for showing your technique in this video. I have read the comments and many are negative. I don't want to perpetuate old arguments but simply ask a question. If the choker is a bodybuilder or has a large forearm do you think this technique is still going to be effective if applied correctly and all other things remaining the same? I am travelling I can't practice this on someone i know
ramzevans 1 year ago
Try this on yourself while actually using some muscle. It completely blocks that pressure point that wouldn't have worked in the first place. Videos like this only build false confidence.
inythingatall 1 year ago
lol not n effective techniques... just think about a guy with a BIG arm, u wont be able to do this techniques if u just cant grab on his elbow... dont try this sh!t on streets u wont have enough time to search for pressure points... ull be already on the ground with a guy chokin u from behind
andr3wHun 1 year ago
what does it take to be a master, does that just mean you train other people
ducksman1 1 year ago
I dont think this would really wont, especially if the person was really pissed or tough.
robertlewisvazquez 1 year ago
No creo que sería eficaz. Si fuera de intentarlo a mi, creo que él se desmayaría.
chrokeii 1 year ago
looks pretty effective against the guy in the video who appears to weigh 120 lbs with the bone density of a 10 year old girl. I doubt it would work against anyone bigger. And that is not a real choke hold, that's the kind of choke hold you see in WWF or shit like that.
mmfm426 1 year ago 23
@mmfm426 The 175lb man that is 6'2" and 53 years old will be happy to hear your oppion. I am sure the WWF and all the other TV stars will be glade that you are feeling that their real.
HoShinRyuMaster 1 year ago 13
@HoShinRyuMaster glad* they're*
chrokeii 9 months ago
@HoShinRyuMaster so if demian or palhares sunk in a rear naked on someone you're telling us that squeezing his elbow is really going to make him relinquish the hold? if this technique works why has it not been utilized in a single adcc bout?
mmfm426 4 months ago
@mmfm426 ...with the bone density of a 10 yrd. Agreed. you missed out on the part that he looked like an assassin!
Besides that what happen if someone like Brock Lesner is choking you? ...lol i doubt that'll work.
buddha420luva 1 year ago
@mmfm426 Dude, I'd say that 120lb guy would rape you if he tried. Like, honestly. You don't have to be a muscle head to ruin someone. Trust me.
KingHex 1 year ago
pressure points are painful
my friend does them to me all the
time..fuckin hurts..
but to be honest i dont know how they could really be applicable in a real fight..
yannymclint5 1 year ago
Without any formalities, in a quicker situation; say on the street... wouldn't it be best to distract the attacker with an elbow to their lower body, or a stop on the foot, then try to position a leg behind in order to attempt to throw the attacker, or at least tangle them up enough to trip with or without you?
migashi 1 year ago
this does work its a nerve in the body(funny bone nerve) its painful if you push on it, if your determend,Ive done alot of martial arts aikdio is the main but i like this move if it doesnt work im sure you can improvise
Magicmansrq 1 year ago
Master Lee, I don't mean to disrespect but if this is so effective why don't we see it in the UFC or other such like MMA competitions?
Micahel213 1 year ago
Master Lee, I don't mean to disrespect but if this is so effective why don't we see it in the UFC or other such like MMA competitions?
By the way, I do not have your stature. But I do have 30 years of martial arts experience and have seen and experienced the usage of pressure point techniques. The ones that really work are the ones that are lethal or can cause real injury (f.e. throat and eyes) but in my experience pain inducing pressure points will not work when your attacker is determined.
Micahel213 1 year ago 7
@Micahel213
First off I have used this many times and it does work in most cases. And I did not feel disrespected . But as to there be more dangerous forms to show I know hundreds of ways to get out of choke hold. But with the many stupid thing that people do. I WOULD NEVER SHOW THEM TO UNTRAINED PEOPLE ON YOUTUBE BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO DANGEROUS!!!!
HoShinRyuMaster 1 year ago
@HoShinRyuMaster
Master Lee, I respect that. Still it makes me curious about them. Maybe you can describe one or some to me in a personal message?
Micahel213 1 year ago
@HoShinRyuMaster And it is this veil of secrecy that has allowed some martial arts to continue to exist rather than be exposed to the world. I have no doubt that you are a master of your art. I do however discredit any art that uses as its basis for expertise its own self apointed experts.
kcborg 1 year ago
@HoShinRyuMaster
If you've used this "many times" in real life, would you not characterize that as a systematic failure of your self-defense skills? Your ability to recognize potentially dangerous situations and avoid them may need to be brushed up.
As for "hundreds of ways to get out of choke hold," how many do you need? If the creator of your "art" had found one way worth passing on to students, would not the rest have been discarded?
gazinwpg 1 year ago
@HoShinRyuMaster "my techniques are far too dangerous and deadly"
Lots of traditional styles 'masters' hide behind that egotistical claim.
BuffaloTC 1 year ago
@Micahel213 I don't know why are you being so negative. I'm training karate for 11 years and since WKF rules aren't allowing us dangerous techniques from karate I started to explore everything useful on YT. I was exploring these pressure points while I was visiting my first aid class we were thought that pressure points will stop the bleeding below that spot. I tried to squeeze mine and it hurt a lot... since then I tried to "calm" my opponents many times with these pressure points. IT WORKS!
Savo003 10 months ago
@Savo003
Dude, I don't know in what medieval class you get your training. But you don't stop a bleeding using 'pressure points'. Direct pressure to the wound is the only advisable thing to do. Unless you want to complicate things by crushing an arterie.
Micahel213 10 months ago
@Savo003
You think if this would be effective they wouldn't use it in mma-fights against the rear naked choke? Btw, I've competed internationally under WKF-rules. And I can't imagine a situation in which pressure point techniques are applicable.
Micahel213 10 months ago
@Micahel213 I didn't say that I used it in WKF kumite but in RL. This is not the only pressure point and bigger opponents can be controlled by that - neck to shoulder pressure point, which is even easier to get and control someone. And about MMA "real" fight or this choke escape "presentation"... you can not compare these two. In this video he is calm and he knows what to do. When you're really being choked while adrenaline is in your blood this might not be the first thing to get in your head.
Savo003 10 months ago
@Savo003
That neck to shoulder pressure is easily ignored. If you want to use a pressure point use one that would give a notion of serious harm. Meaning eyes, throat, groin and the likes.
So you use your techniques 'IRL'? What are you? Doorman, security guard, police officer? (school teacher? :-) )
Micahel213 10 months ago
@Micahel213 I am not saying this technique works or not, that nerve point is very sensitve. However, the reason you don't see these things in MMA is because: 1) The gloves make this sort of manipulation almost impossible 2) Some MMA events outlaw some small nerve point attacks and small joint manipulations.
Largely, it is the gloves that make a lot of traditional techniques difficult. You aren't going to get a good wrist lock on someone with gloves and tape and wraps for example.
Iaazathoth 7 months ago
@Iaazathoth
True enough. Certain joint manipulations and pressure point attacks are not allowed in competition. And gloves and tape does render some techniques ineffective. However, the problem with techniques like the one demonstrated is that they are hard to apply under duress and when someone is really trying to choke you the adrenaline makes him insensible to these kind of pain impulses.
Micahel213 7 months ago
As a correction officer, pressure points are part of our training. Either for self defense or controlling an inmate. 99.9% of us are no masters in those techniques and they are not always the best alternative to a situation, but in many situation they are very effective. Most of the time all you need is a split second of distraction on your attacker to take control. IMO pressure points works when you know what your doing and know when to use them.
Corpse05 1 year ago
pressure points do work, IF YOU CAN HIT THEM! its like trying to shoot a fly with a pistol. In theory its sound but in real life its clumsy and dangerous. Oh and by the way, I've studied several martial arts including this one, and quite honestly: Silat, jiujitsu, Hapkido, and Krav Maga are much more effective for Self defense. Don't believe me? your already on youtube, look it up!
alansmithy85 1 year ago
try that on a 250 pound senior football DE, exactly.
Masch3rano 1 year ago
I found this point does work when the arm isnt tense. If the guys arm is tense and muscular it is very hard to penetrate the muscle to hit the point.
capnstanky 1 year ago
@capnstanky i had my friend try it on me and doesnt work on my huge arms but still cool to know
daddyoca69 1 year ago
@capnstanky That's why he had a rly skinny guy do it. Thanks, I was wondering why he would have somebody, who's choke hold you could break outta with sheer strength. :D
junks1989 1 year ago
yeah iv heard of lots of things in self defence but its easier said than done cos in a street fight u panic and dont think, its like wen people say how to disable a dog if it attacks u, i remember wen a rottweiler attacked me few yrs ago i was walking down street and it ran out of a lane and grabbed my arm i paniced then eventualy i started punching it in the head til it let go and ran of
TheSparkle7 2 years ago
he didnt have to post the video at all so stop whinning becuase he could take all of yall
eGnOOdle11 2 years ago
LOL at 00:33 hes like
"go ahead please"
and it looks like hes gonna reach for his dick
danglyballs00 2 years ago 39
Ye it really looks like he is...
Michel0555 2 years ago
@danglyballs00 L O L O L
PlayDohz06 1 year ago
@danglyballs00
hahah
rotsebanotman 5 months ago
i would stick with krav maga on this one, but thanks fot the post anyway
shmocko22 2 years ago
@ma4real There is no Debate when you don't know enough to judge and when you are insulting and don't show any respect. I don't need to defend my techniques to you, without any knowledge of my style you are not qualified to argue with me. You are not the honorable one by continueing to be insulting. Which why I am reporting you to YouTube.
HoShinRyuMaster 2 years ago 2
never seen this, 5 star
aldezmail 2 years ago
@lowkickr1 It is only to those who have not been trained in pressure points for defense, that would see it as weak.. I have 55 years of training in the arts when you have that many years behind you, your remarks will have more respect for other martial artist..
HoShinRyuMaster 2 years ago
thanks
theweakfreak2 2 years ago
Step one should be do the choke properly.
phauna 2 years ago
LOL WOW
aldoe9 2 years ago
WTF????
chico26getafe 2 years ago
Wow, wasnt expecting that. usually you see some bullshit ridiculous technique here, but that might actually work. Can you explain why that hurts so much?
bonigga 2 years ago
0:33 the guy doing the choke loooks like he gonna bust a bruce lee
Meese3Cheat 2 years ago
like fuck dose that work lol what happens if you have a massive muscular guy not a whimp, when you cant get at the nerves ,and why dosnt every ufc fighter use that trick hmm mayby because it dosnt work lol
01MMA 2 years ago
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alansmithy85 2 years ago
fuck yeah just throw him over the shoulder then pull a chainsaw from ur pocket and start slicing....
bloodymarry667 2 years ago
or alternitively grab the top of his thumb and wrench it down to your stomach and break free with a few elbow to the face and ribs. thats what several Krav Maga black belts recommend.
alansmithy85 2 years ago
Yeah cool... but i like chainsaw better
bloodymarry667 2 years ago
this works you must put your thump there then find a bone i can't tell you which name is but if you pressure that part you can actually make him drop you
Dpyrt 2 years ago
HAhA choke i would hit him with a steel pipe x0a0x0a
SaTyriC0n666 2 years ago
nice!!!
bloodymarry667 2 years ago
lmao
bonigga 2 years ago
That choke hold isn't that powerful. Granted the average person doesn't know how to do a full choke hold, but the other arm should go behind the kneck rather than holding the wrist.
pyro226 2 years ago
*neck
pyro226 2 years ago
that bald guy looks like stone cold steve austin cos stone cold said so
lokallize 2 years ago
But uhm...I don't think this is the most effective technique of choice. You have to be accurate and riks tolerance to pain. It's not fail safe.
wilfffilmkijken 2 years ago
No disrespect Sensei. My experience is this PP does not often work on men with larger muscular arms and women seldom posses the grip-strength to do it to average men.
marine1109 2 years ago
nice
uberf0ol 2 years ago
that guy is actually stone cold steve austin
osembrtlt 2 years ago
Haha, I was thinking the same.
wilfffilmkijken 2 years ago
rottweiler012 whos the master man?him or you?
ZombieModGuy11 2 years ago
ooooo yes the ulna nerve and radial nerve pinch, hurts like hell!
GTFORDMAN 2 years ago
Fucking funny bones.
Tonylowk 2 years ago
i cant find it lmao
sicksadfreak 2 years ago
i found it on my own arm. when you have your arm bent, it REALLY hurts.
sithwalrus 2 years ago
It is clear that many in here do not know what they are talking about. Muscles have nothing to do about presure points, its like solar plexus, you can have great abs but you cant protect that certain point. Of course it is hard to get of in a fight, but that is why you practice, to make the specific techniques perfect
Rottweiler012 2 years ago
haha nice
boringgrass 2 years ago
Let's try with Chuck Liddell...
BRANSTEF 2 years ago
looks good but wont work when the enemy has adrenaline running through his veins
awsomeuace 2 years ago 2
I train into a mma kung fu style, and just tonight we pratice escaping rear choke, and I tell you the most pratical way is to it the pressur point. Some are more muscular but even on the biggest and buff guys in the class this work...
sammiiboyy 2 years ago
Haha, adrenaline has nothing to do with it my friend.
smashbrosdojo090 2 years ago
This move only works if its a little kid choking you. UFC enough said.
ItchyGoomie 3 years ago
I agree, im sure the pressure point hurts, but when ur fighting a guy with a bit of tolerance to pain your going to need an actual escape.
DonBillski 2 years ago
I done mean to sound offensive but I'd like to see this done on a good mma or BJJ guy with good rear nakes chokes, I personally think you'd end up unconcious, if you can get it to work I'd be well impressed
petethegreat009 3 years ago 5
@petethegreat009 Agreed!
junks1989 1 year ago
@petethegreat009
There is some common sense in what your saying regarding top fighters in the world. Keep in mind that most self defense techniques wont work on those guys as they are trained to counter your every moves. Against a normal "Joe" on the street it might just give you the split second you need to take control or withdraw yourself from that current attack. Pressure points works a lot better with the element of surprise. Trying this on an aware attackers wont have the same result.
Corpse05 1 year ago
Bwahahahahah pressure points, what a load of bollocks. We had some pressure point guys come down to our club a while ago, fuuniest thing I've seen. The white belts demolished them and we never saw them again. Add adrenaline, heart rate & striking.
Asymptote01 3 years ago
Your opion is welcome but your manors are not. Not everyone is real and not everyone can do these techniques. They are not for everyone. Only the truely dedicated can do them.
HoShinRyuMaster 3 years ago
this only works on ppl who dont have that much muscle. The pressure point thing dont work when theres a lot of muscle covering it. Not only does it not work on muscled ppl, it's also hard to get off in a fight since its such a specific point.
Unless u can put an elbow on it or something, theres no way ur teeny thumb can aply enough pressure to make a difference.
Kin94285 2 years ago
Well said sir. :)
smashbrosdojo090 2 years ago
lol then dont learn it QQ more
boringgrass 2 years ago
pressure point... takes roughly 8 seconds to pmake em pass out pressure point wont cut it
dazdazdaz11 3 years ago
Pressure points can get you out of most situations.
Considering it will take at least 3 seconds for a sleeper / choak hold to make someone pass out, thats plent of time to hit a nerve point or two.
RedOrca 3 years ago
you can also reach over there shoulder and put ur hand infront of there face then push up right under there nose forcing there head back and they will have to let go
matineesuxxx 3 years ago
the nose is the leash, first thing I ever learned =) Everybody follows their nose
JHUD156 3 years ago
A Jiu Jitsu or Judo artist would not perform a rear naked choke hold in that manner. The blade of the forearm would be in a different position.
That looked like a WWE 'Sleeper Hold' not a rear naked choke.
muayboran74 3 years ago 4
Yes, you are right, but consider that not only professionals can try to choke you.
JGL3 3 years ago 2
it really depends, the traditional "rear naked choke" with the left hand pushing the head down has a clear weakness as all one has to do is remove the left hand from your head to releave pressure. the "clasping hands" technique is a lot harder to reverse and not only is a blood choke but also blocks the windpipe, however it is harder to maintain control of your opponent. mat hughes of the ufc won one of his majior fights (so majior i forgot which one, lol) with the clasping hands technique.
leonthalion 3 years ago
it was him vs frank trigg.... the only reason he used it was because trigg got out of his rear naked choke
nubemuffin 3 years ago
thanks man you have really helped with my bullying problem. keep up the work.
sam52191 3 years ago 3
Entirely compliant and the uke had no idea how to do a RNC.
If you are on youtube you can find a video that will show you how to do it better than that. Also that "nerve point" is simply a mild annoyance and I can assure you it would not be effective.
Abusivemelon 3 years ago
hey that guy works at city wok
patriot61181 3 years ago
haha i just learned some.... umm...watchamacalit
ways to use that point in karate,,,,
do u know sensia marr?
bree112233 3 years ago
When you gentlemen wake up from the Matrix I can recommend plenty of places for ye to train in.
galfano78 3 years ago 4
Hehe, I just tried this on myself. It works!, but you have to find the funny bone just right. Hey can you tell me if it is possible to cause temporary paralysis by hitting a nerve, although without damaging it?
GODIN101 4 years ago
ever smacked ur elbow on something hard n ur arm went numb. that answers ur question?
lejink 3 years ago
doesnt work that way... tried it... it's never as effective as a smack on a kichen table
siniqdrakon 3 years ago
Actually if a person truly studies pressure points and practices them it will work. But as many only study the physical parts they don't always get the Ki or Chi points of the martial arts.
HoShinRyuMaster 4 years ago
I'm sorry "master and sensei", sorry that you actually think this will work.
starkhonest 4 years ago 4