@alienorade Cool to see someone else in the field agree. I have a substitute certificate and I got it after these videos were put up. Substituting and being in school and watching teaches really solidified my position.
Just watched RSA Animate - Drive: The surprising truth about what motivates us
His research was applied to the jobsite; but if you replace the word job with school, I think you have an excellent scientific argument for unschooling.
meh. school is McDonald's.. 1) efficiency-cough-, 2) predictability, 3) uniformity, and 4) control. in trying to be efficient by following regulations, school actually split from it's purpose.
your math example: if you solve "x" another method and achieve the same result, you did nothing wrong. it's wrong because you didn't follow the rules.
bye now. off i go to the learning facility, oh privileged me~!
anyways, i am truly envious of unschoolers.. wish my parents didn't worship "education".
@liensvoice I wish you luck.... I am in college and while I have a lot of issues with our countries college/university system... it is still much better than the forced learning of high, middle, and elementary school. Just remember to not do the same to your kids... it is difficult but finding the right girl/guy to agree with you is possible... even if they don't agree right away.
Your algebra class example towards the end of this clip gives me the impression that you had a very terrible math instructor. Luckily, my algebra teachers were very receptive to alternative approaches as long as I could show my work (essentially compiling a 'proof''). I suppose some instructors get lazy in the tenure system, which I suspect might be happening here. I did some student teaching as an undergrad and I continued the same way, letting the student show me rather than me showing them.
@SBRslacker00 It is true for my first algebra teacher in high school. He was also the football coach and more interested in passing the football players than actually teaching. That being said when I re-took the class I got an A and when college told me I had to take it again I got an A. Problem is I don't think I'll ever need it. I mean if you could point out a common situation in which I needed algebra I'd admit you are right... doesn't mean I think it is needed to be force fed to students.
I hear ya. I had an English teacher in high school who was a football coach. He didn't even have his degree in English! His teaching degree was in poly-sci, but our school apparently needed him to be a football coach, so they fudged it or whatever. The guy was a total prick and I got into a fight with him. He was able to hold my high school diploma until I offered an apology to him, if you can believe that! I wish I wouldn't have, but I just wanted to move on to college.
@SBRslacker00 Yeah that is quite ridiculous. IMO Schools can be improved I feel they are way too ageist and rigid at the moment. Hell in my Educational Psychology class I had last week most people agreed that a curriculum that was designed by teacher AND student is much better... for some reason people just don't implement it.... then again my kids won't go to school unless they want to so it doesn't matter to me lol but everyone deserves better.
Oh my god thank you sir! I'm 14 and have been home schooled for just under 2 years, and everything you say is true!
While at school the idea of writing as a hobby didn't appeal to me, and now that I'm at home, I've written two 30,000+ word novels! (Although not published because young writers are criticized and judged far more than older writers) This is a fact:
Learning the way you like and in a way you enjoy is far easier than having it shoved in your face and forced upon you.
@BozzyxThexScizor Hey thanks for the comments on the videos! It is always great to hear from someone actually living what I believe in. It is great that you wrote two novels. If you don't mind me asking... what are they about?
Why don't you go to a more unschooling type college...like
Empire State?
And why are you majoring in elementary education? In New York State, you need a master's degree to get a teachng job at any level..so why not just study what you
@givebirthathome I don't live in New York, the state I live in, all I need is a BA.
I am majoring in Education because i just want to teach and write on the side. The plan is to have my main income off teaching and hopefully I can write good enough to survive off that so I don't have to work on a strict schedule when I have kids. If writing fails, I am going to look into self-employment.
That's cool to have a plan. Homeschooling can be amazing when the parents have carefully worked out a way to be free to be parents.
Mary Pipher "In the Shelter of Each Other" wrote a cool account of one very successful homeschooling family.
Kids and writing don't mix that well (as a published author and homeschooling mom, let me warn you about that). I'm not saying they can't mix, but they don't mix easily. Because writing takes intense concentration, and small children detect and
disrupt parent-goes-into-trance state...because its dangerous to them.
Believe me..I've talked and observed lots and lots and lots of parents with their kids, and homeschoolers struggling to do it in different ways. The happiest ones I knew of, were mom and dad both work in flexible or complementary time-slots.
Great video; the idea that young people lack foresight of is predicated on ageist prejudice. One of the tricks of the system is to create the conditions that encourage short-sightedness amongst the young (debilitating institutional environments in which all learning is directed towards passing a test to be delivered in the near future) and then point to this artificial short-sightedness as evidence that such short-sightedness is inevitable. 5*
My psychology professor tells us that college helps with creative intelligence. This is Bullshit! She says that she one day walked into a store when the staff there were having a difficult problem. She says she was able to easily solve the difficult problem because thats what "college" gives her the ability to do. How superficial does that sound?
Ha sounds like she is trying to sell a product lol. I know all too well the amount of money colleges basically steal in America... my wallet cries every time a new semester starts. lol So I she needs to sell her product and pretend it actually does something LoL
Its like a dangling carrot of opportunity that one holds in order to spew propaganda that people are dumb and poor who don't go to school, and that college is the only way to become "rich" and "successful".
When in reality, it's a trap employed by the government to deceive students to take out loans that they're incapable of paying for even after they graduate. Debt Slavery.
School destroyed my learning, esp. high school(it was more in grades than learning). I had the illusion that school provided a "legitimate" mould to my learning. I ended up realizing that during the "holidays", i. e. summer, I learned more than what I wouldv'e learned going to these Prussian modeled enforced learning camps. Obvs stuff that I actually found interesting and worthwhile. This is something I hate "current education system" over.
Your welcome and thanks! Yeah schools are pretty bad. There are ways in which, after HUGE reforms, schools can become much better (may I suggest Alfie Kohn's, "The Schools our Children Deserve") but overall if the parents are able, I don't see it necessary to send kids to school, unless they want to go, but they should always have the freedom to leave.
Word--education professional speaking (certified teacher w/ masters).
alienorade 1 month ago
@alienorade Cool to see someone else in the field agree. I have a substitute certificate and I got it after these videos were put up. Substituting and being in school and watching teaches really solidified my position.
UnschoolingEagle 1 month ago
Just watched RSA Animate - Drive: The surprising truth about what motivates us
His research was applied to the jobsite; but if you replace the word job with school, I think you have an excellent scientific argument for unschooling.
kozychik 3 months ago
meh. school is McDonald's.. 1) efficiency-cough-, 2) predictability, 3) uniformity, and 4) control. in trying to be efficient by following regulations, school actually split from it's purpose.
your math example: if you solve "x" another method and achieve the same result, you did nothing wrong. it's wrong because you didn't follow the rules.
bye now. off i go to the learning facility, oh privileged me~!
anyways, i am truly envious of unschoolers.. wish my parents didn't worship "education".
liensvoice 1 year ago
@liensvoice I wish you luck.... I am in college and while I have a lot of issues with our countries college/university system... it is still much better than the forced learning of high, middle, and elementary school. Just remember to not do the same to your kids... it is difficult but finding the right girl/guy to agree with you is possible... even if they don't agree right away.
UnschoolingEagle 1 year ago
Your algebra class example towards the end of this clip gives me the impression that you had a very terrible math instructor. Luckily, my algebra teachers were very receptive to alternative approaches as long as I could show my work (essentially compiling a 'proof''). I suppose some instructors get lazy in the tenure system, which I suspect might be happening here. I did some student teaching as an undergrad and I continued the same way, letting the student show me rather than me showing them.
SBRslacker00 1 year ago
@SBRslacker00 It is true for my first algebra teacher in high school. He was also the football coach and more interested in passing the football players than actually teaching. That being said when I re-took the class I got an A and when college told me I had to take it again I got an A. Problem is I don't think I'll ever need it. I mean if you could point out a common situation in which I needed algebra I'd admit you are right... doesn't mean I think it is needed to be force fed to students.
UnschoolingEagle 1 year ago
@UnschoolingEagle
I hear ya. I had an English teacher in high school who was a football coach. He didn't even have his degree in English! His teaching degree was in poly-sci, but our school apparently needed him to be a football coach, so they fudged it or whatever. The guy was a total prick and I got into a fight with him. He was able to hold my high school diploma until I offered an apology to him, if you can believe that! I wish I wouldn't have, but I just wanted to move on to college.
SBRslacker00 1 year ago
@SBRslacker00 Yeah that is quite ridiculous. IMO Schools can be improved I feel they are way too ageist and rigid at the moment. Hell in my Educational Psychology class I had last week most people agreed that a curriculum that was designed by teacher AND student is much better... for some reason people just don't implement it.... then again my kids won't go to school unless they want to so it doesn't matter to me lol but everyone deserves better.
UnschoolingEagle 1 year ago
Oh my god thank you sir! I'm 14 and have been home schooled for just under 2 years, and everything you say is true!
While at school the idea of writing as a hobby didn't appeal to me, and now that I'm at home, I've written two 30,000+ word novels! (Although not published because young writers are criticized and judged far more than older writers) This is a fact:
Learning the way you like and in a way you enjoy is far easier than having it shoved in your face and forced upon you.
BozzyxThexScizor 1 year ago
@BozzyxThexScizor Hey thanks for the comments on the videos! It is always great to hear from someone actually living what I believe in. It is great that you wrote two novels. If you don't mind me asking... what are they about?
UnschoolingEagle 1 year ago
We're unschooling in KY and happy to see you are putting info out there. Thanks for the vids.
leavesof3 1 year ago
@leavesof3 Thanks! It is great to hear unschoolers are watching my vids... I can't wait to become a parent and unschool my kids.
UnschoolingEagle 1 year ago
such a child advocate, there needs to be more people like you in this world :)
so happy i found your channel!
jakluk4 1 year ago
@jakluk4 Thank you very much!
UnschoolingEagle 1 year ago
Why don't you go to a more unschooling type college...like
Empire State?
And why are you majoring in elementary education? In New York State, you need a master's degree to get a teachng job at any level..so why not just study what you
want and then get the masters in Education?
givebirthathome 2 years ago
@givebirthathome I don't live in New York, the state I live in, all I need is a BA.
I am majoring in Education because i just want to teach and write on the side. The plan is to have my main income off teaching and hopefully I can write good enough to survive off that so I don't have to work on a strict schedule when I have kids. If writing fails, I am going to look into self-employment.
UnschoolingEagle 2 years ago
That's cool to have a plan. Homeschooling can be amazing when the parents have carefully worked out a way to be free to be parents.
Mary Pipher "In the Shelter of Each Other" wrote a cool account of one very successful homeschooling family.
Kids and writing don't mix that well (as a published author and homeschooling mom, let me warn you about that). I'm not saying they can't mix, but they don't mix easily. Because writing takes intense concentration, and small children detect and
givebirthathome 2 years ago
disrupt parent-goes-into-trance state...because its dangerous to them.
Believe me..I've talked and observed lots and lots and lots of parents with their kids, and homeschoolers struggling to do it in different ways. The happiest ones I knew of, were mom and dad both work in flexible or complementary time-slots.
givebirthathome 2 years ago
Well, I don't plan to let my writing take an precedence over my kids.... if I see it is taking too much time I will stop.
I'll check out that story by Mary Pipher.
UnschoolingEagle 2 years ago
Great video; the idea that young people lack foresight of is predicated on ageist prejudice. One of the tricks of the system is to create the conditions that encourage short-sightedness amongst the young (debilitating institutional environments in which all learning is directed towards passing a test to be delivered in the near future) and then point to this artificial short-sightedness as evidence that such short-sightedness is inevitable. 5*
RowanFortuneWood 2 years ago 2
Subbed!
Stargazer5781 2 years ago 2
Thank you! I subbed back, good channel!
UnschoolingEagle 2 years ago
Just uploaded a new video about school gulags.
DrBakshandeh 2 years ago
Great video!
aaron0883 2 years ago
Thanks!
UnschoolingEagle 2 years ago
I'm uploading a video on employment.
DrBakshandeh 2 years ago
"Logic and common sense are our greatest assests against our enemy of stupidity and ignorance."
DrBakshandeh
spread the word
DrBakshandeh 2 years ago
Yup logic and common sense are two things schools don't teach either.
UnschoolingEagle 2 years ago
My psychology professor tells us that college helps with creative intelligence. This is Bullshit! She says that she one day walked into a store when the staff there were having a difficult problem. She says she was able to easily solve the difficult problem because thats what "college" gives her the ability to do. How superficial does that sound?
corndogers564 2 years ago 2
Ha sounds like she is trying to sell a product lol. I know all too well the amount of money colleges basically steal in America... my wallet cries every time a new semester starts. lol So I she needs to sell her product and pretend it actually does something LoL
UnschoolingEagle 2 years ago
Its like a dangling carrot of opportunity that one holds in order to spew propaganda that people are dumb and poor who don't go to school, and that college is the only way to become "rich" and "successful".
When in reality, it's a trap employed by the government to deceive students to take out loans that they're incapable of paying for even after they graduate. Debt Slavery.
corndogers564 2 years ago 2
Exactly! Good analysis.
UnschoolingEagle 2 years ago
School destroyed my learning, esp. high school(it was more in grades than learning). I had the illusion that school provided a "legitimate" mould to my learning. I ended up realizing that during the "holidays", i. e. summer, I learned more than what I wouldv'e learned going to these Prussian modeled enforced learning camps. Obvs stuff that I actually found interesting and worthwhile. This is something I hate "current education system" over.
Thanks for your 5 Uploads.
fireman12888 2 years ago
Your welcome and thanks! Yeah schools are pretty bad. There are ways in which, after HUGE reforms, schools can become much better (may I suggest Alfie Kohn's, "The Schools our Children Deserve") but overall if the parents are able, I don't see it necessary to send kids to school, unless they want to go, but they should always have the freedom to leave.
UnschoolingEagle 2 years ago