A seldom-mentioned facet of the reliability picture of German tanks later in the war concerned the severe shortage of lubricants and ball bearings due to Allied air raids upon factories such as those at Schweinfort. Bearings are critical to the function of mechanical devices, and they wear out and need replacement. Allied combat troops often heard German tanks before they saw them, because their bearings were shot and thus very noisy.
From Nemetsa to @memadmax69 you are absolutely right.Two generals failed to stop Hitler and if he had even more tanks they would have been running like sheep.
Awesome tank but not very practical. Costly in both production, materials, and also fuel inefficient. There were few bridges that could support it's enormous weight, As there is a major river every 100km or so in Europe this is a critical factor. It's sheer size made it almost impotent in urban areas without infantry support.
Having said that it's still an impressive vehicle even by todays standards.
@2004DAZZA: Good post. Despite their fearsome hitting power, many of the Panzer generals hated having Tigers in their formations because of all of the problems they caused. They were so heavy that they bogged down frequently in soft ground, and tore up paved roads. When stuck, only another Tiger could tow one free. Since Germany had no tank recovery system in WWII, many Tigers were abandoned. They had to be rail-transported to the front from the rear, and they drank petrol.
@GeorgiaBoy1961 The Germans did have a recovery system but in1944-45 these vehicles were in short supply. As you say many Tigers were abandoned, what a waste! Why the Germans fielded such a variety of different panzers is bewildering. They would have been better of concentrating on one or two designs that were easy to produce in quantity. The Panther would have been ideal but by the time they had corrected it's 'teething problems' the war was lost.
@2004DAZZA: Re: "Why the Germans fielded such a variety of different panzers is bewildering. They would have been better of concentrating on one or two designs that were easy to produce in quantity." Agreed. How fortunate for the free world that the Nazi high command and Hitler himself made the incorrect choices!
Were there any famous Bengal Tiger tanks? I mean Tiger 131 is one of the most famous and spectacular Tiger I tanks of WWII that is still surviving but what about the Bengal Tigers?
A potentially impressive tank which had the usual German defects of being rushed into service without proper testing. And it was over-engineered, like most German equipment, then and now. In WWII, Germany produced too many bits of different kit; better to have concentrated on mass producing tried and tested weapons, as the Soviets and Western Allies did. To quote: "Quantity has its own quality." The cost cost effective AFV Germany deployed was the STUG III.
@MArkGilfach German tanks and tactics remained superior in the defensive battles of WWII - however quality and quantity do make good - take the IS-2 - it may have the faults of speed, poor optics, poor gun accuracy but compared to a T-34/85 or a Sherman 75mm the IS-2 would have been a more dangerous challenge to the Germans - plus more IS-2's were made compared to all Tiger variants put together. To be honest though the Bengal Tiger was somewhat 'flawed' - compared to the Elefant.
@MArkGilfach Begal Tiger's were expensive, too heavy and suffered fuel hungry problems compared to the Allies - the Panther or Jagdpanther would have done better - particularly the latter as it mounted the same armament only lacking a turret - yet the Jagdpanther was too little to actually turn tides of the war :( Not to mention crazy projects demanded by high-powered Nazi's besides Hitler himself...
Since development of this tank started in 1942, it's normal that it's purpose was different from when it entered the battlefield in 1944. In 1942 germany was overpowering eastern europe and conquered western europe. There was no competitor in the sky either. In 1944, Germany lost air supremacy and both eastern and western front had collapsed. But i still believe this was a unequaled masterpiece since it went unmatched until the end of the war.
@lioncrest98 No equal considering it's many short comeings Hitler was ignorant , the resorces need to build one tiger would produce three fighter A/C somthing he needed more than oversized heavy tanks to stem the Alied bombing campgain that was wrecking the facilitys to build these tanks ,the panther mdl G was more than a match for alied armor with better mobility mounting the Rinemetal 75mm HV gun that was actually better at punching trough armor than the 88mm, Iseral used this gun on M4 s
The 75mm L70 gun on the panther is only better than the 88mm L56 on the Tiger I, the Tiger II carried the 88mm L71 which outperformed the L70 by a huge margin.
At 1000m the L70 will pierce 111mm of armour, the L71 will pierce 165mm of armour.
@Dreachon It makes little diffrence verry few tanks in the day had that much armor ,and not the hordes of allied tanks , Hitler had a obsession with heavy tanks , these tigers were all underpowerd unrelieable and not fit for much more than mobile pill box in a defensive posture in western Euerope . The tigers were plauged with all sorts of mechenical failures, engine failures, final drive breakage not to mention limited mobility weight wise even today theres verry few bridges that'l support one
Why is it that people keep on repeating so many old false myths with regards to the Tiger mobility.
Tiger was not a unreliable as people claim, it scored a similair percentage as the panzer IV when it camo to servicability and scored way higher than the Panther.
And no there are plenty of bridges in europe that will easily support the weight of a tiger, you don't need a 60 ton bridge to carry one, a 20 ton could carry provide enough care was taken.
@Dreachon Myths ? I hardly think theyer myths , the king tiger was a complete failure in the Aredens offensive , the last gasp for a heavy tank faceing western armor, as for crossing a 20 ton bridge with a 68 ton tank well good luck, you'l need it like the four guys in the Abrams that drowned in the Eufreties river outside of Bagdad , one of the reasons the Russians tanks weigh in at the 50 ton range, the mud gets impassable,the bridges weaker and gas consumption higer with 68 + tons.........
@Dreachon Used less fuel than the panther LOL now thats a good one since they all shared the same engine and the panther weighed right at 20 tons less than a king tiger , I suggest you do a little reading up a tiger consumed 3 gal per mile, another blunder when your straped for fuel to operate your tanks on to begin with.... With a drug addict moron calling the shots this is what you get wasteing resorces on heavy tanks instead of fighter A/C to maintain air superiority ..............
@Dreachon Theres no myth to it guy if there was the Nazis wouldv'e been able to beat the Russians LOL ,that didn't happen ! Some how your fantisizeing that the tiger & nazi war machine is some glorified high tech super duper army of the day , when American troops were carrieing semi-autos they were still carrieing bolt actions ,they had the tech but failed to use it in the right places untill it was to late, had the tigers been such great machines the French wouldv'e used them for a interm tank.
@Dreachon Yeah right ,America didn't enter the war until 1941 and the Germans were the ones that declared war on the US after Pearl ,and never got involved on the ground to help the soveits out untill Normandy by then they had the Germans almost pushed back to pre invasion lines... those auto rifles were not in general Wheremacht , like the M 1 and mostly issued to Falshimjager and SS units.. BTW the Panther was the interm tank of France not the Tiger ,Rinemetal still makes AT guns Krupp dosen't
In case you haven't notived and by yuor post you clearly have no idea, germany was fighting the british is the desert several months before barbarossa.
Also US ground forces got involved in 1943 with africa, scicily and italy you idiot.
Gewehr 42 and 43 were heer issued, fallschirm had FG42, you really don't know what you are talking about.
@Dreachon The british in the desert ,and the US in 43 it looks like they had 2 years to kick the soveit ass ,but got their ass kicked , it all goes back to a moron making decisions, picking on a bear was the German down fall, the Germans captured a lot of no mans land ,steeps but never any stratigic objective in defeating the soveits, every offenseive after Stalingrad was a failure ... It's called smarts ,Hitler did have any the Gewehrs came to late to amount to shit ,bad decisions bad out come
Well that is what you get when people that have no competence are put in such high places, Hitler knew tactical situations well enough but never saw the strategic picture.
When he got presented by a war winning weapon he failed to see it, example the me-262 and the StG44
@Dreachon Put in high places , thats the problem he only wanted yes people and what we call brown nosers in charge , Hitler & Gooring both were drug addicts, as for the jet they had a flying prototype in 38 , and the only basic difference between the Junkers and the Mesershmitt was the Junkers had a twin rudder, moron wanted a bomber instead of a fighter that the Me262 clearly was and orderd it used as such,he didn't like the StG 44,due to stamped parts and most of them were produced in secret
@Dreachon Thats the problem when dealing with a drug crazed fanatic, why else would top generals try a assanation attempt, Hitlers planing was insanity with the German military industrial complex trying to avert one military crisis after another with no proper feild trials ,the tiger got verry little and the king tiger got even less, where as the panther had been upgraded and improved during the war that made it a better allround tank....
@Dreachon: The Tiger II was a fearsome weapon on defense, but a bust on offense. It was prone to breakdowns on long road marches, so had to be rail-transported to the front, but only on special wide carriages. It was so heavy that it tore up roads and got stuck in the mud often, and since only another Tiger could tow it out, they were often abandoned if this happened. They were mechanically complex to service and fuel hungry. On narrow or twisting roads, they were tough to maneuver.
Not really, there are several recorded instances of schwere abteilungen making long roadmarches of 200 to 300km with only a few minor breakdowns, that is not bad for a such a heavy vehicle in that time.
Every tank will tear up roads.
You might wanna start reading some better books and not repeating old myths that have been proven false for years now.
what they should have done was just built dummy king tigers , that alone would have been enough to put the fear into allied crews, then resources would be better served to just making more panthers.
@germanysjim No doubt about that one Germany needed a air superiority fighter far worse than oversized tanks , the panther was a far better all round tank than any of the tigers , infact the French used them for a interm tank after WW2, the panther mdl D was said to be by some as the finest tank ever produced by Germany during the war , it's gun was used by Iseral on M4 Shermans with modified turrets where as Kupps 88mm ceased production at wars end.......
What a main gun. What a barrel. What a tank. Agree that it was not of much good to the Germans, the Panther in mass would have been much more useful. But to those who love tanks the KonigsTiger is simply awesome. AWESOME!
that photo @ 1:00 gives me a hard on....shows just how mighty this animal was, too bad there wasnt 10,000 of these tanks, all mechanically sound, to have steam rolled those subhuman Russians, then Hitler could have lost the war.......i hate Russian Rapists....inbredded fux. Rot in hell Nyet Nyet! I hope the Devil still has a pitchfork up Stalins ass
The Germans would have been better off with Panthers instead of Tigers. The Panthers were more reliable and they could build 2 Panthers for the cost of each Tiger.
@4everUSNavy That was the problem. They couldn't build more Tigers because they were too expensive and used too much materials and labor. The maintenance and logistics were a nightmare. As we saw, quantity beat quality.
@Kampfwagenkanone You're ridiculous. The Panther was defective in the first version, but became the main German battle tank by 1944 because it was the best.
@jackzero99: this answer of you is totlay wrong, even till the end of the war the panther was a catastrophy. it tok the engineers a lot of work to impove the terrible tanrsmission system, just in the last month of the war they developed replacements for the panther so that the panther could drive a dstance from ca. 500 km or in miles ca. 300 wihout technical breakdown. don't mistake the reality with some fantasy. the panther was a god concept but never was ready for the field.
@Kampfwagenkanone If the Panther had transmission problems, the Tiger was much worse. They used almost the same internals, but the Tiger was much heavier. The Germans must have been happy with the Panther, because they built 6000 compared to only 1000 Tigers
@jackzero99: the tiger was prodused bye one factiry the panther bye three factroies. the engine was the same ok i agree, but the coolingsystem of the panther didn't work that well. and my argument was about the part between gearbox and chain. there were so many mistakes hich had to produce because of the idiot hilter itselt couldn't se a different between finished in construction and ready for production. as a driver in the panther you had to e more carsful than in the king tiger. as one example
jagtiger had an awsome gun 128mm and kingtiger an 88mm or 108mm. jagtiger came in early 1945 and was the best tank made due to its devastating damage lol
The Jagdtiger was only a heavier version of the King Tiger with a fixed turret and a bigger gun which had lesser penetrating power than the smaller 8,8cm KwK L43.... The Jagdtiger was by far one the worst german tanks designed during WW2! and a big waste of ressources also.
Jagdtigers were not even needed. Panther, Tiger, King Tiger, Jagdpanther, they could all do the same job with more success.
Sturmgeschütz III were actually better at destroying tanks from the flank, thanks to their low profile. the 7,5 cm gun had a good penetration damage and could reload much faster than the Tigers 8,8 cm. The Jagdtiger was introduced to Hitler as a compilation to the existing tank destroyers such as for ex. the Sturmgeschütz III Ausf. G.
so no not all tanks could do a better job. the heavy tanks were meant to keep target on sight and tank destroyers would actually flank. two different tasks!
Actually JT's main gun was the most powerful anti-tank gun in the war, it could punch through all known Allied Tanks in WWII with shear kinetic force.
@hatakashi1900: "The experimental T15E1 90 mm gun was developed and mounted in a T26E1 Pershing in January 1945. This tank was designated T26E1-1. The T15E1 gun was 73 calibers in length and had a much longer high capacity chamber. This gave it a muzzle velocity of 3,750 ft/s (1,140 m/s) with the T30E16 APCR shot and could penetrate the Panther's frontal armor at up to 2,600 yd (2,400 m)." From Wikipedia. This performance exceeds that of the main gun on the King Tiger.
no, you aren't wrong, at first it was invented to carry a 120mm gun, but after the first experiments they found out that the engine can't manage the heavy weight, and also with the 88mm turret it was to heavy, 4 of 5 kingtigers broke down because of problems with the engine / sorry for my bad english
From my research of this tank, it was an awesome defence weapon but a poor assault weapon due to its slow speed and tendency like all late war tanks to break down because the factories were bombed and tanks weren't field tested.
Yes you're wrong. For King Tiger, nothing beyond 88mm even passed the concept drawing stage. The turret itself is simply not big enough to house a bigger gun and two parts ammunitions.
Not sure about the new turret and extra loader... they managed to fit a 17 pdr into a sherman! And today one piece 120 mm ammunition is also loaded by one crewmember.
Imagine if they just build 50 King tigers with 105 mm cannons and range finders :) That'd make a cool model!
From the book I have it has the technical documents and drawings from Krupp back then, and indeed a new turret is needed as there would be no room for the loader
Sturmtiger was not a good tank, slow clumsy, Perfect taget for aircrafts, Only 14 rounds could be carried and only 18 was builted. What i just said was a common problem for all late war german tanks. Like the king tiger.
And ofcause it had like all german heavy tanks motor problems.
@HellGateDenmark Any tank was a perfect target for the air force of any other country, so that is just a waste of talk. The SturmTiger had its role and was VERY effective at it as was shown during the Warsaw uprising.
@Robert111 Sure you are right about the warsaw uprising. And you are right about every tank being a perfect taget for the airforce. But fact remains that, at the time It was completely idiotic to build that large and costfull a tank when the enemy had almost total air superiority. The tank worked good at what it was designed for, but the timing for its construction was horrible. So your arguments are invalide.
porche designed the turret for the tiger I, because they were supposed to build the tanks, however, the contract went to a different factory. the factory submitted their version of the tiger I turret. they used it for the first few tiger II's.
I guess everyone is an inbred when it comes to war. Men load up there rifles and kill dozens of other men. War turns us into animals, and there have always been war crimes. Even with this patriotic music playing war is still not an honorable thing to be apart of. So i guess we all must be inbreds because every race of human has killed, raped, pillaged, and massacred other humans
We are nasty predatory apes. There is only one race of man left. The others (homo neandertalis, homo erectus, homo florensis) we have killed off. That is what we do. We compete. If you don't fight, you get slaughtered in the concentration camps. That is not terribly honorable either.
ultimate fighting machine....i wish there were 60,000 of these at Kursk......thats the only battle i would want to win.....steamroll the Russians...then Adolph could lose. I loathe the Russians for raping thousands of children in Berlin....bastard imbreds.
yes,our tanks were amazing,but the tiger needed 800..i repeat 800 liters of fuel for 100 km....so .....for example the ardennes ofensive had the capture of several usa fuel depots within the plan,as little ,unimportant matter(sarcsm)...most tigers were killed by empty fuel tank,becasue the lack of fuel influenced all the tactics indirectly,making commanders nervous even before battle,to ever reach the front line again,becasue they had to cover withdrawing units mostly...cheers
Surely all this tank versus tank stuff is irrelevant seeing as tanks have never been the best weapons for fighting tanks. In WW2 you beat tanks mainly with obstacles, anti-tank guns, mines and hand-held infantry weapons, not tanks. For instance, a german soldier armed with a Panzerfaust could defeat any Allied tank of the period and even the humble British PIAT could disable a Tiger tank.
Not always. Once they came out with the angled side armor in early world war 2 the panzerfaust and allied bazooka started becoming ineffective with direct shots. You had to hit a tank just right to actually do damage. For example the tracks or the gas tanks in the back. As for if they are the best weapon. Yes they are they provide cover for ground troops and they make the enemy lose morale due to the fact a normal machine gun wont effect it. Unless by chance its a .50
dude there r records that pershing destroyed tigers -.-" wikipedia owns =D after the first tiger was destroyed by a pershing the Wehrmacht said that the Pershing was an "Strong Opponent" however the king tiger was still to strong so the pershings avoidet kingtiger as good as possible
@HellGateDenmark: It all depends on the situation. A Pershing stood a very good chance of knocking out a Tiger if it could catch it at an off-angle or side on or for a rear shot. Frontally, the Tiger II was never documented to have been knocked out in WWII. However, the very high-velocity main gun on the "Super Pershing" was capable of penetrating an extraordinary thickness of armor, with muzzle velocity of 3,750 ft./second. The war ended before it saw action in any numbers.
this was Hitlers answer to being out numbered 50 to 1. Create an even bigger tank thats even harder to mass build so you end up being out numbered a 100 to 1.
impressive looking, but a complete waste of resources.building more panzer VI's would of been a much smarter idea.
The greatest tank of world war II, it was the best of the best, i think that tank was only one i history, in first month of it survice it was indestructible, no one anti-tank weapon avaible can destroy it, it was a tank that can sweep all before it
A seldom-mentioned facet of the reliability picture of German tanks later in the war concerned the severe shortage of lubricants and ball bearings due to Allied air raids upon factories such as those at Schweinfort. Bearings are critical to the function of mechanical devices, and they wear out and need replacement. Allied combat troops often heard German tanks before they saw them, because their bearings were shot and thus very noisy.
GeorgiaBoy1961 3 days ago
If they had an extra 100 of these in the Africa campaign they would have won the war.
memadmax69 2 months ago
@memadmax69 these king tigers were useless
Sgreenenov13 1 month ago
From Nemetsa to @memadmax69 you are absolutely right.Two generals failed to stop Hitler and if he had even more tanks they would have been running like sheep.
Nemetsa 4 weeks ago
Awesome tank but not very practical. Costly in both production, materials, and also fuel inefficient. There were few bridges that could support it's enormous weight, As there is a major river every 100km or so in Europe this is a critical factor. It's sheer size made it almost impotent in urban areas without infantry support.
Having said that it's still an impressive vehicle even by todays standards.
2004DAZZA 2 months ago
@2004DAZZA: Good post. Despite their fearsome hitting power, many of the Panzer generals hated having Tigers in their formations because of all of the problems they caused. They were so heavy that they bogged down frequently in soft ground, and tore up paved roads. When stuck, only another Tiger could tow one free. Since Germany had no tank recovery system in WWII, many Tigers were abandoned. They had to be rail-transported to the front from the rear, and they drank petrol.
GeorgiaBoy1961 3 days ago
@GeorgiaBoy1961 The Germans did have a recovery system but in1944-45 these vehicles were in short supply. As you say many Tigers were abandoned, what a waste! Why the Germans fielded such a variety of different panzers is bewildering. They would have been better of concentrating on one or two designs that were easy to produce in quantity. The Panther would have been ideal but by the time they had corrected it's 'teething problems' the war was lost.
2004DAZZA 2 days ago
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@2004DAZZA: Re: "Why the Germans fielded such a variety of different panzers is bewildering. They would have been better of concentrating on one or two designs that were easy to produce in quantity." Agreed. How fortunate for the free world that the Nazi high command and Hitler himself made the incorrect choices!
GeorgiaBoy1961 2 days ago
Were there any famous Bengal Tiger tanks? I mean Tiger 131 is one of the most famous and spectacular Tiger I tanks of WWII that is still surviving but what about the Bengal Tigers?
HeirofGojira91 3 months ago
super info
xem1969 3 months ago
BEST OF THE WORLD!!!
heiplum 3 months ago
you misspelled malfunction
TheKing1cobra 5 months ago
who is the tank commander of the tiger tank battalion shown here at 1.24?
thekcra 5 months ago
its beautiful and all but is a pain in the ass to take care or it it need alto of maintenance
soviet507 5 months ago
A BEUTIFUL MASTERPEICE
OHNGAI 6 months ago
A potentially impressive tank which had the usual German defects of being rushed into service without proper testing. And it was over-engineered, like most German equipment, then and now. In WWII, Germany produced too many bits of different kit; better to have concentrated on mass producing tried and tested weapons, as the Soviets and Western Allies did. To quote: "Quantity has its own quality." The cost cost effective AFV Germany deployed was the STUG III.
MArkGilfach 6 months ago
@MArkGilfach just another practicality of too little too late?
Firecloud500 6 months ago
@MArkGilfach German tanks and tactics remained superior in the defensive battles of WWII - however quality and quantity do make good - take the IS-2 - it may have the faults of speed, poor optics, poor gun accuracy but compared to a T-34/85 or a Sherman 75mm the IS-2 would have been a more dangerous challenge to the Germans - plus more IS-2's were made compared to all Tiger variants put together. To be honest though the Bengal Tiger was somewhat 'flawed' - compared to the Elefant.
HeirofGojira91 3 months ago
@MArkGilfach Begal Tiger's were expensive, too heavy and suffered fuel hungry problems compared to the Allies - the Panther or Jagdpanther would have done better - particularly the latter as it mounted the same armament only lacking a turret - yet the Jagdpanther was too little to actually turn tides of the war :( Not to mention crazy projects demanded by high-powered Nazi's besides Hitler himself...
HeirofGojira91 3 months ago
Since development of this tank started in 1942, it's normal that it's purpose was different from when it entered the battlefield in 1944. In 1942 germany was overpowering eastern europe and conquered western europe. There was no competitor in the sky either. In 1944, Germany lost air supremacy and both eastern and western front had collapsed. But i still believe this was a unequaled masterpiece since it went unmatched until the end of the war.
lioncrest98 8 months ago
@lioncrest98 No equal considering it's many short comeings Hitler was ignorant , the resorces need to build one tiger would produce three fighter A/C somthing he needed more than oversized heavy tanks to stem the Alied bombing campgain that was wrecking the facilitys to build these tanks ,the panther mdl G was more than a match for alied armor with better mobility mounting the Rinemetal 75mm HV gun that was actually better at punching trough armor than the 88mm, Iseral used this gun on M4 s
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
@kamphwagon1
The 75mm L70 gun on the panther is only better than the 88mm L56 on the Tiger I, the Tiger II carried the 88mm L71 which outperformed the L70 by a huge margin.
At 1000m the L70 will pierce 111mm of armour, the L71 will pierce 165mm of armour.
Dreachon 8 months ago
@Dreachon It makes little diffrence verry few tanks in the day had that much armor ,and not the hordes of allied tanks , Hitler had a obsession with heavy tanks , these tigers were all underpowerd unrelieable and not fit for much more than mobile pill box in a defensive posture in western Euerope . The tigers were plauged with all sorts of mechenical failures, engine failures, final drive breakage not to mention limited mobility weight wise even today theres verry few bridges that'l support one
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
@kamphwagon1
Why is it that people keep on repeating so many old false myths with regards to the Tiger mobility.
Tiger was not a unreliable as people claim, it scored a similair percentage as the panzer IV when it camo to servicability and scored way higher than the Panther.
And no there are plenty of bridges in europe that will easily support the weight of a tiger, you don't need a 60 ton bridge to carry one, a 20 ton could carry provide enough care was taken.
Dreachon 8 months ago
@Dreachon Myths ? I hardly think theyer myths , the king tiger was a complete failure in the Aredens offensive , the last gasp for a heavy tank faceing western armor, as for crossing a 20 ton bridge with a 68 ton tank well good luck, you'l need it like the four guys in the Abrams that drowned in the Eufreties river outside of Bagdad , one of the reasons the Russians tanks weigh in at the 50 ton range, the mud gets impassable,the bridges weaker and gas consumption higer with 68 + tons.........
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
@kamphwagon1
You are going for myths, the fact that you can't see a tank crossing a lighter bridge is alreadt one reason
as for the bridge there is a report of churchill crocodiles passing a bridge that was first limited at 10 tonnes.
The terrain was not suited for heavy tanks, it's not the Tiger II failure that it got stuck terrain that it was not meant to be.
second is the fuel consumption, Tiger II used less fuel than Panther on both road and cross country.
Dreachon 8 months ago
@Dreachon Used less fuel than the panther LOL now thats a good one since they all shared the same engine and the panther weighed right at 20 tons less than a king tiger , I suggest you do a little reading up a tiger consumed 3 gal per mile, another blunder when your straped for fuel to operate your tanks on to begin with.... With a drug addict moron calling the shots this is what you get wasteing resorces on heavy tanks instead of fighter A/C to maintain air superiority ..............
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
@kamphwagon1
If anyone should do reading it's you given you can't see any further than old myths.
Dreachon 8 months ago
@Dreachon Theres no myth to it guy if there was the Nazis wouldv'e been able to beat the Russians LOL ,that didn't happen ! Some how your fantisizeing that the tiger & nazi war machine is some glorified high tech super duper army of the day , when American troops were carrieing semi-autos they were still carrieing bolt actions ,they had the tech but failed to use it in the right places untill it was to late, had the tigers been such great machines the French wouldv'e used them for a interm tank.
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
@kamphwagon1
Yes there is, you just refuse to see it just as you are now just making mistake after mistake.
Germany could and would have crushed russia if it didn't have to deal with the western allies throughout the war.
Germany also had auto-matic rifles, it's called Gewehr 42 and 43.
Dreachon 8 months ago
@Dreachon Yeah right ,America didn't enter the war until 1941 and the Germans were the ones that declared war on the US after Pearl ,and never got involved on the ground to help the soveits out untill Normandy by then they had the Germans almost pushed back to pre invasion lines... those auto rifles were not in general Wheremacht , like the M 1 and mostly issued to Falshimjager and SS units.. BTW the Panther was the interm tank of France not the Tiger ,Rinemetal still makes AT guns Krupp dosen't
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
@kamphwagon1
In case you haven't notived and by yuor post you clearly have no idea, germany was fighting the british is the desert several months before barbarossa.
Also US ground forces got involved in 1943 with africa, scicily and italy you idiot.
Gewehr 42 and 43 were heer issued, fallschirm had FG42, you really don't know what you are talking about.
Dreachon 8 months ago
@Dreachon The british in the desert ,and the US in 43 it looks like they had 2 years to kick the soveit ass ,but got their ass kicked , it all goes back to a moron making decisions, picking on a bear was the German down fall, the Germans captured a lot of no mans land ,steeps but never any stratigic objective in defeating the soveits, every offenseive after Stalingrad was a failure ... It's called smarts ,Hitler did have any the Gewehrs came to late to amount to shit ,bad decisions bad out come
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
@kamphwagon1
Well that is what you get when people that have no competence are put in such high places, Hitler knew tactical situations well enough but never saw the strategic picture.
When he got presented by a war winning weapon he failed to see it, example the me-262 and the StG44
Dreachon 8 months ago
@Dreachon Put in high places , thats the problem he only wanted yes people and what we call brown nosers in charge , Hitler & Gooring both were drug addicts, as for the jet they had a flying prototype in 38 , and the only basic difference between the Junkers and the Mesershmitt was the Junkers had a twin rudder, moron wanted a bomber instead of a fighter that the Me262 clearly was and orderd it used as such,he didn't like the StG 44,due to stamped parts and most of them were produced in secret
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
@kamphwagon1
Germany could have had an operational jet fighter by 1940/41 but it was not considered a priority.
Dreachon 8 months ago
@kamphwagon1
The same thing went on with priority with the railroads, as the extermination camp trains got priority over military trains.
Dreachon 8 months ago
@Dreachon Thats the problem when dealing with a drug crazed fanatic, why else would top generals try a assanation attempt, Hitlers planing was insanity with the German military industrial complex trying to avert one military crisis after another with no proper feild trials ,the tiger got verry little and the king tiger got even less, where as the panther had been upgraded and improved during the war that made it a better allround tank....
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
@Dreachon: The Tiger II was a fearsome weapon on defense, but a bust on offense. It was prone to breakdowns on long road marches, so had to be rail-transported to the front, but only on special wide carriages. It was so heavy that it tore up roads and got stuck in the mud often, and since only another Tiger could tow it out, they were often abandoned if this happened. They were mechanically complex to service and fuel hungry. On narrow or twisting roads, they were tough to maneuver.
GeorgiaBoy1961 3 days ago
@GeorgiaBoy1961
Not really, there are several recorded instances of schwere abteilungen making long roadmarches of 200 to 300km with only a few minor breakdowns, that is not bad for a such a heavy vehicle in that time.
Every tank will tear up roads.
You might wanna start reading some better books and not repeating old myths that have been proven false for years now.
Dreachon 3 days ago
what they should have done was just built dummy king tigers , that alone would have been enough to put the fear into allied crews, then resources would be better served to just making more panthers.
germanysjim 9 months ago
@germanysjim No doubt about that one Germany needed a air superiority fighter far worse than oversized tanks , the panther was a far better all round tank than any of the tigers , infact the French used them for a interm tank after WW2, the panther mdl D was said to be by some as the finest tank ever produced by Germany during the war , it's gun was used by Iseral on M4 Shermans with modified turrets where as Kupps 88mm ceased production at wars end.......
kamphwagon1 8 months ago
wow this, bad motha fucka!
AyeOkNowFuckOff 1 year ago
@apoblakas Not to mention infantry that could easily board the tank, making it more of a waste of resources than an actual fighting machine.
damanwidaplans 1 year ago
GERMAN DESTROU WORLD......KIL GERMAN IS KILER KINDOM OF SERBIA FOREWER//////////
kermit1389 1 year ago
Good job,i like to see it again,everytime.
tengothenight 1 year ago
150mm pff.... W allies
MeFJuve 1 year ago 6
What a main gun. What a barrel. What a tank. Agree that it was not of much good to the Germans, the Panther in mass would have been much more useful. But to those who love tanks the KonigsTiger is simply awesome. AWESOME!
49bobbyk 1 year ago
Absolutly nice Pics and a fearsome Tank
Good Job
SuperTimebandit 1 year ago 7
@SuperTimebandit Well thank you
HellGateDenmark 1 year ago
Even with such powerful weapon, the germans can still lose the war. this proves that they are stupid and thank god that they lost.
leon500able 1 year ago
@leon500able
It had nothing to do with beeing stupid and everything with having your industry bombed 24/7.
Dreachon 1 year ago
no it was pzkw Maus this thig is giant against tiger and kingtiger
backboardlayup 1 year ago
What a monster!
calimar28 1 year ago
that photo @ 1:00 gives me a hard on....shows just how mighty this animal was, too bad there wasnt 10,000 of these tanks, all mechanically sound, to have steam rolled those subhuman Russians, then Hitler could have lost the war.......i hate Russian Rapists....inbredded fux. Rot in hell Nyet Nyet! I hope the Devil still has a pitchfork up Stalins ass
hockeydudeluv 1 year ago
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I would have rather built panther, stug and panzer IV tanks and improve them.
Tiger and especially king tigers were waste of resources, imo.. but it looked really nice tank tough.. a real beast! I give them that.
Drooditar 2 years ago
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Drooditar 2 years ago
The Germans would have been better off with Panthers instead of Tigers. The Panthers were more reliable and they could build 2 Panthers for the cost of each Tiger.
jackzero99 2 years ago
actualy tiger were more usefull.
reliable yes
better gun yes
amour even
if the germans could have built more Tigers, the war would have been alot longer
4everUSNavy 2 years ago
@4everUSNavy That was the problem. They couldn't build more Tigers because they were too expensive and used too much materials and labor. The maintenance and logistics were a nightmare. As we saw, quantity beat quality.
jackzero99 2 years ago
@jackzero99: it seems you have no idea what kind of catastrophy the panther was, he was worse then the king tiger
Kampfwagenkanone 1 year ago
@Kampfwagenkanone You're ridiculous. The Panther was defective in the first version, but became the main German battle tank by 1944 because it was the best.
jackzero99 1 year ago
@jackzero99: this answer of you is totlay wrong, even till the end of the war the panther was a catastrophy. it tok the engineers a lot of work to impove the terrible tanrsmission system, just in the last month of the war they developed replacements for the panther so that the panther could drive a dstance from ca. 500 km or in miles ca. 300 wihout technical breakdown. don't mistake the reality with some fantasy. the panther was a god concept but never was ready for the field.
Kampfwagenkanone 1 year ago
@Kampfwagenkanone If the Panther had transmission problems, the Tiger was much worse. They used almost the same internals, but the Tiger was much heavier. The Germans must have been happy with the Panther, because they built 6000 compared to only 1000 Tigers
jackzero99 1 year ago
@jackzero99: the tiger was prodused bye one factiry the panther bye three factroies. the engine was the same ok i agree, but the coolingsystem of the panther didn't work that well. and my argument was about the part between gearbox and chain. there were so many mistakes hich had to produce because of the idiot hilter itselt couldn't se a different between finished in construction and ready for production. as a driver in the panther you had to e more carsful than in the king tiger. as one example
Kampfwagenkanone 1 year ago
jagtiger had an awsome gun 128mm and kingtiger an 88mm or 108mm. jagtiger came in early 1945 and was the best tank made due to its devastating damage lol
xIIJAGTIGERIIx 2 years ago
The Jagdtiger was only a heavier version of the King Tiger with a fixed turret and a bigger gun which had lesser penetrating power than the smaller 8,8cm KwK L43.... The Jagdtiger was by far one the worst german tanks designed during WW2! and a big waste of ressources also.
Jagdtigers were not even needed. Panther, Tiger, King Tiger, Jagdpanther, they could all do the same job with more success.
xNexus65x 2 years ago 2
Jagdtiger is not a tank. It is clasified as a tank destroyer, a self propeled artillery cannon.
To be called a tank, an armored fighting vehicle needs to be tracked and have a turret with a large caliber gun/cannon.
Iggy82xl 2 years ago
correct.
RedOrchestraPro 2 years ago
Sturmgeschütz III were actually better at destroying tanks from the flank, thanks to their low profile. the 7,5 cm gun had a good penetration damage and could reload much faster than the Tigers 8,8 cm. The Jagdtiger was introduced to Hitler as a compilation to the existing tank destroyers such as for ex. the Sturmgeschütz III Ausf. G.
so no not all tanks could do a better job. the heavy tanks were meant to keep target on sight and tank destroyers would actually flank. two different tasks!
RedOrchestraPro 2 years ago
Actually JT's main gun was the most powerful anti-tank gun in the war, it could punch through all known Allied Tanks in WWII with shear kinetic force.
hatakashi1900 2 years ago
@hatakashi1900: "The experimental T15E1 90 mm gun was developed and mounted in a T26E1 Pershing in January 1945. This tank was designated T26E1-1. The T15E1 gun was 73 calibers in length and had a much longer high capacity chamber. This gave it a muzzle velocity of 3,750 ft/s (1,140 m/s) with the T30E16 APCR shot and could penetrate the Panther's frontal armor at up to 2,600 yd (2,400 m)." From Wikipedia. This performance exceeds that of the main gun on the King Tiger.
GeorgiaBoy1961 3 days ago
it was dark all around there was frost on the ground, when the TIGERS broke free...
JudozIV 2 years ago
I thought they invented the King Tiger Tank to hold a 120mm Porsche turret. Am I wrong?
SkedarE 2 years ago
no, you aren't wrong, at first it was invented to carry a 120mm gun, but after the first experiments they found out that the engine can't manage the heavy weight, and also with the 88mm turret it was to heavy, 4 of 5 kingtigers broke down because of problems with the engine / sorry for my bad english
panzerfaust93 2 years ago
From my research of this tank, it was an awesome defence weapon but a poor assault weapon due to its slow speed and tendency like all late war tanks to break down because the factories were bombed and tanks weren't field tested.
SkedarE 2 years ago
Yes you're wrong. For King Tiger, nothing beyond 88mm even passed the concept drawing stage. The turret itself is simply not big enough to house a bigger gun and two parts ammunitions.
hatakashi1900 2 years ago
The JagdTiger had a 128mm Gun on it, tho that was an Assault Gun version of the King Tiger
CMDRFandragon 2 years ago
Krupp did propose to rearm the King with a 105 mm L/68 cannon!
slopedarmor 2 years ago
Sadly that never went beyond the "fantasy" stage as that would mean a new turret...and to find an extra loader
hatakashi1900 2 years ago
Not sure about the new turret and extra loader... they managed to fit a 17 pdr into a sherman! And today one piece 120 mm ammunition is also loaded by one crewmember.
Imagine if they just build 50 King tigers with 105 mm cannons and range finders :) That'd make a cool model!
slopedarmor 2 years ago
From the book I have it has the technical documents and drawings from Krupp back then, and indeed a new turret is needed as there would be no room for the loader
But yes...105mm...WOW!
hatakashi1900 2 years ago
this tank is a fucking monster with is 180 mm cannon :O my guess is this thanks is the most powerful tank of ww2
Hardcoregamer920 2 years ago
not 180 mm gun
88mm
HellGateDenmark 2 years ago
the most powerful tank of ww2 was the Sturmtiger.
the sturmtiger has a 380 MM cannon!!!!
R1BASR1 2 years ago
Sturmtiger was not a good tank, slow clumsy, Perfect taget for aircrafts, Only 14 rounds could be carried and only 18 was builted. What i just said was a common problem for all late war german tanks. Like the king tiger.
And ofcause it had like all german heavy tanks motor problems.
HellGateDenmark 2 years ago
@HellGateDenmark
The KT was fixable though if enough trialing was given along with more resources.
There was a 1500hp engine and 105mm as future upgrades had the war continued on longer.
otester 1 year ago
@HellGateDenmark Any tank was a perfect target for the air force of any other country, so that is just a waste of talk. The SturmTiger had its role and was VERY effective at it as was shown during the Warsaw uprising.
Robert111 1 year ago
@Robert111 Sure you are right about the warsaw uprising. And you are right about every tank being a perfect taget for the airforce. But fact remains that, at the time It was completely idiotic to build that large and costfull a tank when the enemy had almost total air superiority. The tank worked good at what it was designed for, but the timing for its construction was horrible. So your arguments are invalide.
HellGateDenmark 1 year ago
@HellGateDenmark What argument of mine are you so confused about as to think is invalid. I can see already that you are just digging yourself a hole.
Robert111 1 year ago
@Robert111 fine if you cant see what im pointing out for you then fine
HellGateDenmark 1 year ago
@R1BASR1 The SturmTiger was not a tank its a assult gun built on a Tiger 1 chassis but not classifed as a tank
DaManzMoney 1 year ago
@R1BASR1: the strumtiger wasn't a tank. he was a hunterversion. the most powerful tank was indeed the king tiger
Kampfwagenkanone 1 year ago
@Kampfwagenkanone Sturmtiger was a SP assault gun, not a tank hunter
jackzero99 1 year ago
@jackzero99: that's correct. i meant it's a systmwithout a turrent, ore in other words not a tank
Kampfwagenkanone 1 year ago
@R1BASR1 aah. sturmtiger cant nock out 2 shermens. and reload time was 4 min.
duif463 1 year ago
@R1BASR1 It was not a cannon..it was a rocket werfer..the biggest gun had JSU 152, it had a 15,2 cm cannon
nurmiar 1 year ago
@R1BASR1 the Sturmtiger wasn't actually a tank, it was a heavy assault gun
makeSX 1 year ago
@Hardcoregamer920 The russian JSU 152 had a 15,2 cm gun..it was the biggest gun
nurmiar 1 year ago
Great music on the videos. Who's the composer and the name of the piece? Should had diesel motors in them.
fredneck4x4 2 years ago
andreas waldetoft
HellGateDenmark 2 years ago
sorry to say it but it was designed in 1942
and forgert to say that porche also designed a turret for the king tiger thank
that was all :)
kokprop 2 years ago
porche designed the turret for the tiger I, because they were supposed to build the tanks, however, the contract went to a different factory. the factory submitted their version of the tiger I turret. they used it for the first few tiger II's.
militarymuseumvol 2 years ago
I guess everyone is an inbred when it comes to war. Men load up there rifles and kill dozens of other men. War turns us into animals, and there have always been war crimes. Even with this patriotic music playing war is still not an honorable thing to be apart of. So i guess we all must be inbreds because every race of human has killed, raped, pillaged, and massacred other humans
SimonLy90 2 years ago 2
We are nasty predatory apes. There is only one race of man left. The others (homo neandertalis, homo erectus, homo florensis) we have killed off. That is what we do. We compete. If you don't fight, you get slaughtered in the concentration camps. That is not terribly honorable either.
DonMeaker 2 years ago
ultimate fighting machine....i wish there were 60,000 of these at Kursk......thats the only battle i would want to win.....steamroll the Russians...then Adolph could lose. I loathe the Russians for raping thousands of children in Berlin....bastard imbreds.
hockeydudeluv 2 years ago
Thank you very much!
tengothenight 2 years ago
in ww2 that tank blasted the shit out of every other tank.
bestlad123 2 years ago 2
Please,what´s the name of this song?
tengothenight 2 years ago
From HoI 2
name: Hoilero
Andreas Waldetoft
HellGateDenmark 2 years ago
Compared with the Aufs A there was a break in the quality.
There were only 200 Peshings in two War Theatres and then only in the last 4 months of the War.
penndeutschmann 2 years ago
yes,our tanks were amazing,but the tiger needed 800..i repeat 800 liters of fuel for 100 km....so .....for example the ardennes ofensive had the capture of several usa fuel depots within the plan,as little ,unimportant matter(sarcsm)...most tigers were killed by empty fuel tank,becasue the lack of fuel influenced all the tactics indirectly,making commanders nervous even before battle,to ever reach the front line again,becasue they had to cover withdrawing units mostly...cheers
spw488 2 years ago
Surely all this tank versus tank stuff is irrelevant seeing as tanks have never been the best weapons for fighting tanks. In WW2 you beat tanks mainly with obstacles, anti-tank guns, mines and hand-held infantry weapons, not tanks. For instance, a german soldier armed with a Panzerfaust could defeat any Allied tank of the period and even the humble British PIAT could disable a Tiger tank.
ur2c8 2 years ago
Not always. Once they came out with the angled side armor in early world war 2 the panzerfaust and allied bazooka started becoming ineffective with direct shots. You had to hit a tank just right to actually do damage. For example the tracks or the gas tanks in the back. As for if they are the best weapon. Yes they are they provide cover for ground troops and they make the enemy lose morale due to the fact a normal machine gun wont effect it. Unless by chance its a .50
michael21218 2 years ago
I could look at German tech all day. Time to check out the Mercedes new SL
ChonKrispyLA 3 years ago
Yeah a symbol of the german warmachine i like that
HellGateDenmark 3 years ago
the m26 was even called: "Tiger-Tamer" cuz he COULD defeat a normal Tiger....
DuwMinh 3 years ago
I know that it was called tiger-tamer.
HellGateDenmark 3 years ago
Think the pershing came out in 1945 and the tiger 1942. And the M26 was not so much better then the tiger
HellGateDenmark 3 years ago
in my opinion best tank of WWII-let's start a discussion :D
basposchi 3 years ago
why do you think its the best???
HellGateDenmark 3 years ago
cuz the normal Tiger could be killed by a Pershing... the Kingtiger was almost indestructible :D
DuwMinh 3 years ago
The normal tiger was as good as the Pershing. The pershing could kill a panther but a tiger not
HellGateDenmark 3 years ago
dude there r records that pershing destroyed tigers -.-" wikipedia owns =D after the first tiger was destroyed by a pershing the Wehrmacht said that the Pershing was an "Strong Opponent" however the king tiger was still to strong so the pershings avoidet kingtiger as good as possible
DuwMinh 3 years ago
Yes i know there is record of a pershing killing tiger....
HellGateDenmark 3 years ago
@HellGateDenmark: It all depends on the situation. A Pershing stood a very good chance of knocking out a Tiger if it could catch it at an off-angle or side on or for a rear shot. Frontally, the Tiger II was never documented to have been knocked out in WWII. However, the very high-velocity main gun on the "Super Pershing" was capable of penetrating an extraordinary thickness of armor, with muzzle velocity of 3,750 ft./second. The war ended before it saw action in any numbers.
GeorgiaBoy1961 3 days ago
Thx for 3000+++ views :D
HellGateDenmark 3 years ago
Ohh man this is giant i like German technolgy even the evil one by hitlers army....great machinery
Klottelitsch 3 years ago 2
The gun was an improved 88 using a longer case the kwk 43, this was a big improvment on the previous one.
trixiejazzmag 3 years ago
its stupid that King Tiger were match more bigger then normal tiger and had more armour but still 88mm gun they should make it like 95mm lol
Team4omena 3 years ago
No shit the panther (with the 88/ range finder turet) would have saved big bucks/and time
b/37
1/2ACR
74/76
mtw56or 3 years ago
this was Hitlers answer to being out numbered 50 to 1. Create an even bigger tank thats even harder to mass build so you end up being out numbered a 100 to 1.
impressive looking, but a complete waste of resources.building more panzer VI's would of been a much smarter idea.
hawkeye9090 3 years ago
Yes might be a good tank the king tiger but a 100 shermans or T-34 is just to much.
German had to make a tank that could be mass build way faster then any german tank of the 2 WW
HellGateDenmark 3 years ago
Very Nice!
okajima75 3 years ago
Thanks
HellGateDenmark 3 years ago
Sic semper tyranus. Regicide rules!
ocolumbia 3 years ago 4
99% of them are where tehy deserve to be. Recycled mtal. Keep it GREEN!!!lol
penndeutschmann 3 years ago 2
The greatest tank of world war II, it was the best of the best, i think that tank was only one i history, in first month of it survice it was indestructible, no one anti-tank weapon avaible can destroy it, it was a tank that can sweep all before it
arielprofessional 3 years ago
Except planes :O
raven3331 3 years ago
You thought WRONG 76,85, and 90mm guns stopped them.
ocolumbia 3 years ago
Awesome! Thanks!
MauserK98Kurz 3 years ago
Good video, music fits realy good.
gewoonmijnnaam 3 years ago
Ur english doesn't suck.
DietseGeus 3 years ago
ur english sucks however all stars for ur video
maiprafkprafu 3 years ago
Yes i know
HellGateDenmark 3 years ago
nice vid! there are many videos about this tank on youtube but i cant stop to watch the pictures again and again... R.I.P to the king of tanks in WW2
gunmetalxXx 3 years ago