this album is improvisation in its purest sense. Stanley Crouch is stating what alot of people feel about the album and the movement.....people didnt know what the hell miles was thinking...lol...even his band members thought that..even if they admit it or not...lol
Anyone who thinks Miles "sold out" is ridiculous. Listen to his entire ouevre. His early work through the fifties with traditional combos merged into the years with the Quintet. The music on each album became more and more stripped down and spare until 'In a Slient Way,' which was the ultimate stripped down and spare. After clearing the decks, Miles took himself and his bandmates into outer space across time and history, telling stories of ancient civilizations and future landscapes. He was hip.
what some critics do is pigeonhole a genre, and they think everything in that genre has to sound the same. but it doesnt, dont pigeonhole things, let music be music, and let the artist do what it pleases. cuz in the end, its not about what other people think about it, its as long as the artist likes it.
Santana sums up Bitches Brew and Miles' whole electric era; "he would not comply..", in other words screw the music, it's all about not complying.
Theory; Miles had it with the record/music business, so he said to himself "lets see if they'll go for this shit", and proceeded to play a bunch of avant garde atonal/dissonant crap.
Herbie; hey Miles, what do you want me to play?
Miles; fuck it, the Rhodes is over there, knock yourself out.
Now to be fair, Ofc Miles wanted to make money, hell everyone does I know I DO. But that doesn't mean he wasn't trying to say something. He WAS flippin' the script, he was change things up. What Critics don't realise is this. When "analyzing" and examining music what ever style, they try to decerne whats acceptable by the standards of the genre. Hell RS didn't like Led Zep when they came out but because the crowd loved them they did a 180.
I saw this documental...Santana speaks a lot of time, and every one talks about bitches. album, the JJ tribute etc etc...But no one tyalks about John Mc Laughlin work.....And he was essential too!!! WHY??
I always wondered about that comment from Santana, that Jimi Hendrix was musically effected by A Tribute To Jack Johnson. Wasn't Jimi already dead by then?
@mondola Jimi died in November 1970 and JJ was released February 1971 (recorded Feb and April 1970), so he was dead if he didn't hear it before the final cut.
this album is improvisation in its purest sense. Stanley Crouch is stating what alot of people feel about the album and the movement.....people didnt know what the hell miles was thinking...lol...even his band members thought that..even if they admit it or not...lol
TenorJazzPlayer 5 months ago
Anyone who thinks Miles "sold out" is ridiculous. Listen to his entire ouevre. His early work through the fifties with traditional combos merged into the years with the Quintet. The music on each album became more and more stripped down and spare until 'In a Slient Way,' which was the ultimate stripped down and spare. After clearing the decks, Miles took himself and his bandmates into outer space across time and history, telling stories of ancient civilizations and future landscapes. He was hip.
bapyou 8 months ago
what some critics do is pigeonhole a genre, and they think everything in that genre has to sound the same. but it doesnt, dont pigeonhole things, let music be music, and let the artist do what it pleases. cuz in the end, its not about what other people think about it, its as long as the artist likes it.
PAULisDEADMANnumber9 8 months ago
Santana sums up Bitches Brew and Miles' whole electric era; "he would not comply..", in other words screw the music, it's all about not complying.
Theory; Miles had it with the record/music business, so he said to himself "lets see if they'll go for this shit", and proceeded to play a bunch of avant garde atonal/dissonant crap.
Herbie; hey Miles, what do you want me to play?
Miles; fuck it, the Rhodes is over there, knock yourself out.
alaincharnier1971 9 months ago
what song is that at 4.25? it sounds so awesome lol :P
willwelsh816 9 months ago
Now to be fair, Ofc Miles wanted to make money, hell everyone does I know I DO. But that doesn't mean he wasn't trying to say something. He WAS flippin' the script, he was change things up. What Critics don't realise is this. When "analyzing" and examining music what ever style, they try to decerne whats acceptable by the standards of the genre. Hell RS didn't like Led Zep when they came out but because the crowd loved them they did a 180.
saron380 10 months ago
Yeah, Miles, hammer that nail into Stanley's hand.
senatorkenator 10 months ago
"Miles was a serious artist, that would not comply with the plastic system... like i did"
Antoniodoval94 11 months ago
@Antoniodoval94 oh he isnt that bad :P
willwelsh816 9 months ago
@willwelsh816 Meh, I love him. Yet he kinda sold out.
Antoniodoval94 9 months ago
I hate how Crouch claims he "tried to like it because it was Miles" after he criticizes others for doing the same shit.
pebblefrog196 11 months ago
........Stanley Crouch is an idiot.
mr01FABIO 11 months ago
Stanley Crouch is an idiot.
mr01FABIO 11 months ago
I agree with Stanley.
Guaguanco11 1 year ago
how great you have to be to influence Miles Davis.... Rip Miles, Rip Jimi
TH3Sinn3R1992 1 year ago
he's a cunt
YouriH190 1 year ago
Crouch needs his hand nailed to a table while he is forced to listen to Bitches Brew...Bitch!
FingersPlainview 1 year ago
hey stanley...crouch down and get miles' nuts...
d1thundergod 1 year ago
whats the song playing on 4:25 please?
MPOURNOUZIS 1 year ago
@MPOURNOUZIS "Shut off the light" by Betty Davis
radiomix 1 year ago
Who cares what Stanley Crouch thinks.
bakari45 1 year ago
stanley crouch must be so full of s**t from his toes to his head that he must have lost his sense of hearing
familytreemusic 1 year ago 3
Why they put this black guy talking about Miles from the time that he doesnt like at all what he have done?!!!! bitches brew was a revelation to me
1Heretic 1 year ago 2
I always wondered if Fela listened to this record...
prinznevsky 1 year ago
What's the name of the Santana's song at 8:04 ?
MrBekson 1 year ago
@MrBekson Jungle Strut, composed by Gene Ammons
radiomix 1 year ago
@MrBekson is jungle strut
crossroad87 1 year ago
What music is playing at 4.28? That sounds soooo funky and good.
saintlysinner666 1 year ago
"formless long pieces that seemed to go nowhere"
HAHAHA bullshit :P
TomBandfield 1 year ago
@TomBandfield I disagree, I like Bitches Brew yet I know why he said that...
saintlysinner666 1 year ago
@TomBandfield True in my opinion! God Bless Dave Weckl, Johannes Zetterberg and the likes who turned Fusion into something beautiful!
vithaj92 1 year ago
ah.....el mainstream.....
cuerpoeperra 2 years ago
I saw this documental...Santana speaks a lot of time, and every one talks about bitches. album, the JJ tribute etc etc...But no one tyalks about John Mc Laughlin work.....And he was essential too!!! WHY??
cuerpoeperra 2 years ago 12
I always wondered about that comment from Santana, that Jimi Hendrix was musically effected by A Tribute To Jack Johnson. Wasn't Jimi already dead by then?
mondola 2 years ago
no.
fabianidhesona 2 years ago
@mondola Jimi died in November 1970 and JJ was released February 1971 (recorded Feb and April 1970), so he was dead if he didn't hear it before the final cut.
RedPetrol76 2 years ago
@RedPetrol76 Hendrix died on september 18th.
TheDensley7 1 year ago
kinda ironic hearing santana talk about "not complying with the plastic system" lol
ChibaFish 2 years ago 36
"Everything I had hoped to hear was revealed in Bitches Brew."
computerhacksaw 2 years ago 2
from the 3:31 it is a perfect music it is like the ultimate food absolutely necessary to goes on and live
rusamene 2 years ago