I think it's pretty awesome.. I mean nothing on human but if you're unfortunate like me and have vision but can't play drums for horse crap this is potentially a life saver... plus it's only going to develop.
Are you kidding ?Check out some of the other robotic instrumentals not to mention a Japanese Trupet playing robot This one is nothing compared to them
Clearly the guy just likes programming and engineering this stuff... sure he's even got a midi keyboard playing this. He's not saying it's any good, but the robot can play and you would recognise it as take five.
dudes... just chill. this video isn't called: "BEST VERSION OF TAKE FIVE" or anything like that. It's just a video of someone who's happy to have built and programmed a robot to play the song. Just appreciate the mechanics and programming of it!
i dont think anyone are seriously making the suggestion that robots are better drummers than humans. Clearly not the point the video is trying to make.....
Cool invention, but as a drummer I can tell you that sounded like shite. And really, if that's what you want why not just use a drum machine program to do it? It sounds just as hollow.
i would love to share the stage with this amazing machine (since i play industrial/synthpop) 'cause is not like playing to an audio file, it's playing to digital impulses making their way through mechanical equipment and physically hitting an acustic drum
i'd love to get a more agressive version of this for my band
I know people are complaining about the lack of musicality, but I know how hard it is to go from midi to real world. You guys did a beautiful job. I'm wondering, what was your interface to control the solenoids or pistons or whatever you used?
As a drummer, I question the offensive feedback to this, just like icecoldthrascan. Why don't you go whine to the inventor of drum machines, or METRONOMES for trying to take the fun outta music.
Look, back in the day (c. 1880s-1930), when automatic musical instruments were really popular and all over the place, they were almost never used to replace live musicians. Some (such as orchestrions, band organs, etc) were used for background music and entertainment in public places where real musicians would very quickly hate their job (for example, providing continuous background music in a restaurant for people to talk over, even if you're really good).
... other good examples are skating rinks and carousels, which are very loud environments that very rarely, or almost never had live musicians in the first place, due both to the volume of music required in pre-amplification days, and also, again, the hellish working environment of playing your ass off and being nearly completely ignored. The automatic instruments performed good arrangements cheerfully and without regard for whether anyone was listening.
Heh, you all act like this is the end of the world, "This goes against everything music stands for", and that is a very obnoxious view, speaking as a musician myself.
It was clearly done as a project, or demonstration "simply because you can" - I know somebody who built a very similar machine last year. As it happens I'm doing a similar project as part of my study course, however I'm looking at a robotic guitar playing machine.
You're right in this instance. The amount and variation of "swing" is directly due to the person arranging the music (that is, programming the D#$% thing). This person here obiviously just used a generic "swing" setting without attention to detail, because, after all, it's just an engineering test project. Were it to actually be listened to, you can get really detailed and complex as to how you arrange the drum part to be played back.
For example, somewhat truer "swing" feels include a quintuplet feel (where a quarter note is divided into 5, and the "first eighth" is 3, and the "second eighth" is 2), or a septuplet feel (same, but 4 and 3), etc. and/or changing up the patterns and ratios, making it more staccato or legato, adjusting things in real miniscule increments with a musical intent to sound good. Of course this isn't to replace someone in concert, but to study just how complicated "swinging" really is! 'Cause IT IS!!!
OK, now THAT offends me... the very notion of a robot, or machine of any kind composing music. I have heard some computer-composed music and believe me, it sounds just as bad as you think. The appeal of automatic musical instruments for me is as a human arrangers' tool for playing music live that cannot be played by humans, or for whatever reason the humans are obstinate and refuse to perform. You can arrange anything and they'll play it and won't talk back!...
...But of course real musicians can do things (such as improvise) that automatic instruments cannot do. Real musicians are generally more entertaining to watch in performance and as in any performance, there is the sense that they are trying to convey something to you, or each other, whereas the automatic musical instruments attempt to convey the same thing the arranger did regarless of who's listening, and in this sense, and the fun sense, they still valid in their own right for what they are.
Well, duh. Not all music is Jazz, though Jazz is great. So many musicians (especially some classical musicians, and rock tribute bands) just try to play the notes, or maybe aren't feeling it that night, that it actually does a disservice to the composer.
One thing I like about the automatic instruments is that, in good repair, they don't have "off" days. They may not pay the greatest tribute to the composer (only maybe the person who arranged the music), but at the same time, they don't play any less than usual. The curse of the same is also the blessing of the same.
I don't want the automatic instruments to ever replace human musicians, that would be wrong. All I want is for them to simply be acknowledged as just another way for people to be able to make music. Another option, if you will.
Some great arrangers for the automatic musical instruments (a good example being Raymond Deyo who made rolls for Link coin pianos and orchestrions) couldn't play a musical instrument themselves, and these things were their only outlet for musical expression.
and the feeling in a song?... the drummer passion where is?
LuisDawsonW 8 months ago
DUDE THIS IS SICK!!!!!!!! MAN DONT LISTEN TO SAY THIS IS BAD MAN THIS IS CRAZY
sockerfanatic 1 year ago
ghost notes are terrible
culpritto 1 year ago 2
I think it's pretty awesome.. I mean nothing on human but if you're unfortunate like me and have vision but can't play drums for horse crap this is potentially a life saver... plus it's only going to develop.
Nice man
jaywhitestripes 1 year ago
Does it go to the bathroom for you Tanner???
stylie2010 1 year ago
Yes, but does it SWING?
BARONSAMEDI242 2 years ago
nigga please this is so out of time get a human to do this por favor
rainraindontgoaway 2 years ago
ROFL!!!!!!!!!
GiftedPhilosophy 2 years ago
Impressive...Well done.
cantinman23 2 years ago
Are you kidding ?Check out some of the other robotic instrumentals not to mention a Japanese Trupet playing robot This one is nothing compared to them
Bobby61557 2 years ago
Clearly the guy just likes programming and engineering this stuff... sure he's even got a midi keyboard playing this. He's not saying it's any good, but the robot can play and you would recognise it as take five.
conormmmm 2 years ago 2
dudes... just chill. this video isn't called: "BEST VERSION OF TAKE FIVE" or anything like that. It's just a video of someone who's happy to have built and programmed a robot to play the song. Just appreciate the mechanics and programming of it!
cubozoid 2 years ago 17
Let's just say Joe Morello kicks this stupid robots ass at playing Take Five...where's the badass drum solo you stupid robot!?!?!
playswithpassion 2 years ago
i dont think anyone are seriously making the suggestion that robots are better drummers than humans. Clearly not the point the video is trying to make.....
williamdoe 2 years ago
lmao
jrs89 2 years ago
i think robots doesnt groove ^^
linus0063 2 years ago
Yeah, who needs humans? Oh wait, someone's gotta oil the robots..
jasonalexanderv2 2 years ago
And someone oils the humans too lol
Bobby61557 2 years ago
Its a ghost drummer! :O
JRFproductions 2 years ago
They could have programmed that better; made it accept standard midi and hired a good drummer to record the midi track with an electric kit
maxheadroom1987 2 years ago
se fue de tempo jajaja
chavito2009 2 years ago
haha stickyriver87
Jellybeantiger 2 years ago
I'm trying to be nice.
Uuhhhmm...
Ahhhhahha..
Nevermind.
SuperTex1966 2 years ago
Absolutely nothing went into that, it's one bar of MIDI in 5/4 with the robot playing the same triggers each measure
Pashpash91 3 years ago
You're right, Sinkrot, only a cymbal was being struck...BUT the robot made it sound like a piano. THAT was the hard part.
slickbabyyaya 3 years ago 2
it's a proof why machines should not replace humans!
ElizaMogha 3 years ago 20
I know, humans can just learn, machines have to be painstakingly programmed
catsruledogsdrool23 3 years ago 2
Am i the only one who just saw a fucking hihat being pressed?!
Sinkrot 3 years ago 6
it's like thomas lang... amazing drummer but with no soul.
stickyriver87 3 years ago 2
aaaa...you make my day!!!!
greetings from Croatia
KarlovackoFan 2 years ago
Very cool. I can't imagine the effort that went into that :D.
Pulse120 3 years ago
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this is fucking retarded
wrangloctopus 3 years ago
it hasn't got any feel but it's very cool to see that it's possible to let a robot play music
JustInPlug 3 years ago
Cool invention, but as a drummer I can tell you that sounded like shite. And really, if that's what you want why not just use a drum machine program to do it? It sounds just as hollow.
Rantandreason 3 years ago 2
awesommmmmmmmmm
TearBleed 3 years ago
i think this is great!!
i would love to share the stage with this amazing machine (since i play industrial/synthpop) 'cause is not like playing to an audio file, it's playing to digital impulses making their way through mechanical equipment and physically hitting an acustic drum
i'd love to get a more agressive version of this for my band
nice job!!
Armyfractal 3 years ago
bah, that mechanical drummer sucks. no feel.
aerozeplyn 3 years ago 6
I know people are complaining about the lack of musicality, but I know how hard it is to go from midi to real world. You guys did a beautiful job. I'm wondering, what was your interface to control the solenoids or pistons or whatever you used?
RandomTask3000 3 years ago
Isn't it basically a load of solenoids?
randomnessability 3 years ago
there is really no feel at all,
IPLAYDRUMS1234 3 years ago
I think this is a really interesting project =)
As a drummer, I question the offensive feedback to this, just like icecoldthrascan. Why don't you go whine to the inventor of drum machines, or METRONOMES for trying to take the fun outta music.
Kitaroija 3 years ago
funny for some school project, but that's all. will never replace any drummer. no swing, and it detroys the whole principle of MAKING music.
Sealofst4r 3 years ago
Look, back in the day (c. 1880s-1930), when automatic musical instruments were really popular and all over the place, they were almost never used to replace live musicians. Some (such as orchestrions, band organs, etc) were used for background music and entertainment in public places where real musicians would very quickly hate their job (for example, providing continuous background music in a restaurant for people to talk over, even if you're really good).
KawhackitaRag 3 years ago
... other good examples are skating rinks and carousels, which are very loud environments that very rarely, or almost never had live musicians in the first place, due both to the volume of music required in pre-amplification days, and also, again, the hellish working environment of playing your ass off and being nearly completely ignored. The automatic instruments performed good arrangements cheerfully and without regard for whether anyone was listening.
KawhackitaRag 3 years ago
Wow great swing have this drumer!!
wonderfull !!! like Billy Cobham playing
nialho 4 years ago
hell these robot drummer and guitar could used for all u'd nedd is a pianoist and a singer
acedx14 4 years ago
Heh, you all act like this is the end of the world, "This goes against everything music stands for", and that is a very obnoxious view, speaking as a musician myself.
It was clearly done as a project, or demonstration "simply because you can" - I know somebody who built a very similar machine last year. As it happens I'm doing a similar project as part of my study course, however I'm looking at a robotic guitar playing machine.
icecoldtrashcan 4 years ago
its good, but it will never replace "a real drummer"
ironmaidenno1 4 years ago
that machine aint got no swing. It playin square as hell. the "triplet" phrasing sounds like 16ths to me
delliejonut 4 years ago 2
You're right in this instance. The amount and variation of "swing" is directly due to the person arranging the music (that is, programming the D#$% thing). This person here obiviously just used a generic "swing" setting without attention to detail, because, after all, it's just an engineering test project. Were it to actually be listened to, you can get really detailed and complex as to how you arrange the drum part to be played back.
KawhackitaRag 3 years ago
For example, somewhat truer "swing" feels include a quintuplet feel (where a quarter note is divided into 5, and the "first eighth" is 3, and the "second eighth" is 2), or a septuplet feel (same, but 4 and 3), etc. and/or changing up the patterns and ratios, making it more staccato or legato, adjusting things in real miniscule increments with a musical intent to sound good. Of course this isn't to replace someone in concert, but to study just how complicated "swinging" really is! 'Cause IT IS!!!
KawhackitaRag 3 years ago
lol we already have the Govenator
franklinterrier 5 years ago
Machines will NEVER Capture Music
Juke8ox 5 years ago
it will never play guitar.... and if it did, i will hire it!!
steviebmob 5 years ago
hehehe the responses are hilarious hehehe some people freaked out by a robot performance hehe wait till they are talking... and composing symphonies
happyseaurchin 5 years ago
OK, now THAT offends me... the very notion of a robot, or machine of any kind composing music. I have heard some computer-composed music and believe me, it sounds just as bad as you think. The appeal of automatic musical instruments for me is as a human arrangers' tool for playing music live that cannot be played by humans, or for whatever reason the humans are obstinate and refuse to perform. You can arrange anything and they'll play it and won't talk back!...
KawhackitaRag 3 years ago
...But of course real musicians can do things (such as improvise) that automatic instruments cannot do. Real musicians are generally more entertaining to watch in performance and as in any performance, there is the sense that they are trying to convey something to you, or each other, whereas the automatic musical instruments attempt to convey the same thing the arranger did regarless of who's listening, and in this sense, and the fun sense, they still valid in their own right for what they are.
KawhackitaRag 3 years ago
creepy
iwillmaceyou 5 years ago
awesome!
crablord 5 years ago
lawl
unclesam69 5 years ago
This goes against everything music stands for.
Sure, a machine can play whatever is punched into it, but music, especially, especially jazz is about feeling music, and playing with your essence.
bonham13 5 years ago
Well, duh. Not all music is Jazz, though Jazz is great. So many musicians (especially some classical musicians, and rock tribute bands) just try to play the notes, or maybe aren't feeling it that night, that it actually does a disservice to the composer.
KawhackitaRag 3 years ago
One thing I like about the automatic instruments is that, in good repair, they don't have "off" days. They may not pay the greatest tribute to the composer (only maybe the person who arranged the music), but at the same time, they don't play any less than usual. The curse of the same is also the blessing of the same.
KawhackitaRag 3 years ago
I don't want the automatic instruments to ever replace human musicians, that would be wrong. All I want is for them to simply be acknowledged as just another way for people to be able to make music. Another option, if you will.
Some great arrangers for the automatic musical instruments (a good example being Raymond Deyo who made rolls for Link coin pianos and orchestrions) couldn't play a musical instrument themselves, and these things were their only outlet for musical expression.
KawhackitaRag 3 years ago
Ahaha very nice.
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