Extremely few people who die and are then resuscitated have near death experiences. How do you explain the millions of revived "dead" people who don't have any supernatural experience?
@Lekatt1 I know someone whose heart stopped for five minutes after an accident, and she insists that she didn't see anything and did not have any recollection of what went on during those five minutes. It was just like "being asleep" and not having a dream. So I would assume that this is what it is like being dead, for eternity!
Anyway I am not at all able now to understand the evil of the religious thinking and tradition.
That "god" Yahweh of the Jews has advised how to efficiently perform Ethnic Cleansing long before Hitler!
How can anybody believe in such a monster?
As for the anti-gay campaign of the Religious Right, I can only say that there was so much humiliatian and suffering in my life, that I would pray (if I would be a believer) that all that evil would come in the life of Christians at least for one day!
It was extremely difficult to become an atheist, because I was heavily invested in the christian belief system, but somehow I made it.
I do not regret anything now: I am an atheist and a scientist too. Science is busy eliminating the lies from our lives; science is a method in fact. I love science. But that does not make me rigid and stupid. On the contrary: I accept everything that is factual. The mission of science is to find explanations, not to deny facts.Sometimes ambiguity!
@48acar19 I read all your posts and I do understand how you feel about religion. I have listened to many gay stories like yours. But there is hope and peace for everyone. We are all spiritual. We all have a spirit and was created by a loving Creator who continues to love us just the way we are. One doesn't have to be religious I am not. You might read my book and there you will find the answers. If you can't afford it email me. I am appalled by those who claim to be followers of Jesus
@Lekatt1 Continued. yet don't know what Jesus stood for which was love one another. They will be surprised when they cross over to learn there is no religion in the spiritual world. If you want to talk email me.
I was a Christian believer until the age of 17. At 13 I knew that I like boys, but I thought I am like every other child. Gradually I learned to hate myself because of the Religion of Jesus Christ, which comes as a package, with St'Paul's awful message of hate and with the ancient hatred from the "OLD Testament". Any so-called Christian would say that Jesus also hated gays because he has condemned "Sodom and Gomorrah".
I failed to kill myself at 17, but then I decided to become an atheist.
Yours is a wonderful message but I suspect it will fall upon deaf ears. Atheists and dogmatic theists have more in common than they would be able to understand-- and yet Atheists are convinced that they are "true" intellectuals.a I don't think they are not looking for an "anchor" -- in fact, that is their most popular criticism of spirituality or religion. They do not react well to emotional approaches. IMHO, agnosticism shows true intellectual integrity, while Atheism is a dogmatic religion.
@thecsslife Read the real research on NDEs, drugs or the brain have nothing to do with them. The scientific theories are wrong no one has even induced a real NDE with drugs. Go to the site provided and read a real experience.
@Lekatt1 DMT is realised when someone has a near death experience, from reports that I have read, many people said that they died in their experience, that they saw the end of the tunnel. Smoked or intravenous DMT creates near identical effects as when someone has an NDE. Also, high levels of phylicybin/psilocin can create near effects of DMT, probably because they're quite close molecules.
@thecsslife the drug does not cause near death experiences, those that claim it does simple don't know what they are talking about. The experience is cause by clinical death. Just because someone sees a light or tunnel does not mean they had a near death experience. It is much more complex and has many aspects to it, Go to kenkatin dot com and read one.
@Lekatt1 atheist have an explanation for just about every thing the bible says. it sounds to me it is a spirtual battle with. don't trust everything science and the education system tell these organizations are ran the government as welll as the media and hitler used such things to brainwash people in the past as well as the romans they used heralds (newsgivers) to broadcast for the romans entrest. be careful satans new world order is big and the conspiracy runs deep. alot of false info everywhe
@jacosoft666 You have missed the point. I am not a religious person. I have issues with religion as well as science. They neither understand what life is all about.
@Lekatt1 I applaud the work you are doing. It always amazes me that your critics, both theist and atheist, always resort to the same old arguments that only serve to prove that they are unwilling to honestly view the research, and that they are stuck in their own bigoted belief systems. An atheists, who supposedly worships science, refuses to look at the scientific research with an open mind - no less the hypocrite than a dogmatic religious fundamentalist. It's maddening.
@rlcbabaji3 They only read other atheist material which echoes their belief so they learn nothing. If you want to learn read everything on the subject. Thanks for the compliment.
@Lekatt1 atheist will sometimes go out of there way not to believe in a God. it is a spiritual battle. If there was no spirtual battle within atheist they would not spend hours on articles and blog sites of God trying to tell people not to believe inhim. believeing is bad for an athiest becuase it destroys pride and requires us to feel guilty suffer and change our live. which cause shame. but without guilt we would not know right from wrong. live by faith and god will come to you
For To Long, People have underestimated the Strength of the ATHEIST ARMY Of FREE THINKERS, Who REFUSE TO USE TERROR, Fight In Corrupt Wars Or Believe In Fake Gods, But who Have ALWAYS BELIEVED AND FOUGHT FOR TRUTH LOVE and LOGIC, therefore PEACE, We Are The Ones Who HOLD HOPE IN OUR HEARTS AND SOULS, That Humanity May Evolve To Reach Our Full Potential.
Old man you preach heresy deception and lies. The human soul is of course ETERNAL. That is not an issue. The issue is will your ETERNAL SOUL have EVERLASTING LIFE THROUGH CHRIST JESUS or will your ETERNAL SOUL have ETERNAL DAMNATION IN HELL THROUGH THE SINS OF YOUR FLESH . DONT LET SATAN DECEIVE YOU. There are only these 2 OPTIONS. Anything else is a DECEPTION.
@LPATWILLFILM If you see only two options in the world you have limited yourself and need to do some studying because the options in this world are in the millions. I am not deceived by anyone, certainly not one that does not exist. Since you are teaching damnation you must believe in it and are very afraid of it. God loves you just as you are right now, no need to judge others. Just follow the teachings of Jesus and love everyone, it will take away your fear of Satan.
When you see a being made out of light walk through walls witnessed by myself and my spouse, you just know there is far more to life than the material world.
Atheist on the net have this annoying habit of demanding proof which when presented they refuse to look at. Then they sit there all day every day chanting their mantra its all not true. If you look at the data for psi the odds against it all being chance are trillions to one. We are manifestations of the Universal Mind.
@ninetailschris psychologically it makes you feel better by giving you emotions like security, protectiveness, etc. Knowing there is something after - gives you a meaning and avoids you to feel desperation. It makes sense.
I've studied psychology for years, and know my stuff.
@ninetailschris what does belief have to do with neuroscience?
Like I said, from psychological point of view, a belief in god and in the afterlife has more benefits than non believing. We're not talking NDE's here because it makes no difference.
This has nothing to do with a belief in a belief in god.This has to deal with afterlife which is being discuss by people who deal with this area.Neuroscience have said you shouldn't have the ability to have conscious when the brain is dead and nerves.There have been people who have found out information outside of there location in which they are dead.For example, one lady was able to hear a conversation of her parents in a lunch room which was yards away.Beyond psychology.
@ninetailschris Spare me the propaganda, I know what NDE is and I know it's real. I was talking about something else. And he talks about it in the beginning of the video.
Why there are more suicides among atheists? Because a belief in an afterlife and a god gives you more positive emotions than non believeing. That's all! And It doesn't have to be true, it simply makes you feel better. It's logic.
What propaganda?"Why there are more suicides among atheists? Because a belief in an afterlife and a god gives you more positive emotions than non believeing." I don't know what your saying here because it seems your implying that NDE are made by trying to be positive but there have been people who have claim to have gone to hell which is not positive at all.Plus when your brain dies there is no reason to believe it would try to make you happy seeing as your dead already.
"Oh and for the record, the nde about hell it's bullshit."
Oh so hundreds of people who had hell experiences are all lying.You can type in google or youtube and you will find random people talking about going to hell.You sound like there are some conspirators out there trying to trick you or something.
No sunshine, it's a way an adult addresses a toddler, you are either a young uneducated boy, or a middle east adult with the equivalent education of a 15 year old European.
You have serious issues, you words have absolutely no effect on me, it’s like a young boy that shows me a middle finger, I would laugh and say how sweet, I could never be offended by a kid, but you most probably would beat the shit of him: Very mature indeed.
@Sam10947 (cont) particularly long video or article where you had to hunt for the explanation but I didn't. You're intellectual laziness is impressive only to yourself.
@Sam10947 Again it's Entropy, how do you expect anyone to take you seriously if you repeatedly (even after being given the correct spelling) continue to misspell the Law you're talking about?
Also nice to know that when presented with evidence that debunks your claim that you instead completely ignore it instead of looking into it and addressing it. No wonder you still believe the claim is valid, you're willfully ignorant.
I would expect a higher ratio of suicide in atheists ONLY because there is no reason for them to cling onto a further day or two of intense suffering on their death bed, and no theocratic threats to avoid suicide.
There is no indication that atheist commits more suicide, considering the differences around a few out of every 100.000 and there is no clear trend comparing levels of religiosity, equal quality of life or GDP.
Theists shouldn't have a problem considering they have another life.
@saintpine I would not expect a higher rate of sucide from Atheists, in fact I think if you look at the very simple fact that we DON'T believe in an after life that this would be the most obvious reason why the suicide factor is lower. We don't believe in an after life and thus we believe that this life is all we have making it infinitely more precious.
Why would we end our lives early when they're all we have. Some life > no life.
@DarkBunnyLord "Why would we end our lives early when they're all we have. Some life > no life."
I agree with everything, I was talking about the death bed; this means the atheist will be dead in a day, a week or whatever. There is no solution to the problem.
At this point an atheist is at the end of his life, if he terminates it beforehand because he refuses to be tortured till his last breath, this death is classified as suicide, when in reality the person would be dead anyway.
@saintpine Well it's rather simple, for one we typically still value those last few days, two the thought of simply ending is scary. Disbelief in a God does not mean a lack of hope that the body will recover as this, even if extremely rare, has been documented to happen. Doctors are playing with statistics after all, when they say "you'll likely be dead within x" it's not always accurate, they are simply making the most accurate statement they can based on what data they can collect at the time.
Sure, consider that you are in severe pain with morphine in your body and your chances of an unexplainable miracle is one out of a 1.000.000, your conscious attention is all on the pain and moaning, you have no time for other thoughts and hopes.
This is the typical situation that over 100.000 people go through every day in the world, lets say 10 of them terminate their lives, maybe two are atheists, can you statistically come to any conclusion from this data?
@saintpine Oh I agree, if I was in horrible pain and bound to be for the rest of my life and truly believed so then yes, I'd end my own life. However the vast majority of suicides don't fall into this situation and your original claim was merely "I would expect a higher rate of suicide from Atheists". Now given I understand that you now mean within the context of a specific situation, but the overall rate is determinant on all other situations as well, not a small niche.
Consciousness is controlled by the brain, survival of our being and psyche after physical death is utterly impossible. Near Death Experiences are hallucinations caused by chemical reactions and dying brain cells. There is NO such utopian metaphysical world waiting for us after we die. The laws of physics dictate that this is IMPOSSIBLE!!!!
EVERYBODY WHO DISBELIVES! Islam is the truth. Look, if you want to disbelieve in Islam then I can't stop you as there is no compulsion in religion because the truth is clear TO YOU. Islam is true. In the Hereafter or Day of Judgement don't even think of saying no warner came unto me or send me back my Lord or I will believe in you now or I regret what I did in the world. Don't say these things in the hereafter because YOU choose to disbelieve in your Lord and not worship Allah and do good.
Nobody knows, noone has arisen from the dead in modern times to tell us what if anything is on the other side, that is the bottom line. I think it's just darkness, peace, ideally, it's a perpetual dream of some sort. If people really knew what was on the other side, and that side was much better than the life we currently enjoy, people would be jumping off bridges yesterday.
I understand what he mean of the existence of a universal Master Designer (not the god of any man-made religion) besides, you don't have to belong to any Earthy religion to Believe in God , it is ok to have your temporary doubts and arrogance, but rest assured you're going to face the day and time to meet your maker.
All have sinned and greatly offended the holy God of the bible. The just punishment is death then hell. That's not Gods will. He suffered and died on the cross paying for the law you broke in His life's blood so He could legally dismiss your case. You must repent turn from your sin and trust alone in Jesus Christ for your salvation.
This has made realize that atheist fucknuts in theri brain, even in light of a spirtual experience they still cringe to the thought of a creator, isn't that some colossal arrogance
Elucidate on this...i'm not the one who's claiming the intellectual torch and pretending to know the answer by saying there i no creator. if atheists are honest with themselves they'd be at best agnostics, they make as much of a leap by discrading the rather more likely a cause than not.
@Sam10947 While I agree with your logic others are entitled to their own views, they are entitled to be wrong. I don't agree with name calling or derogatory remarks about others that don't think as we do.
with all due respect, ppl like urself deserve respectful answer, but there are some that it's not because they have a different opinion, it's because they speak as if they claim the intellectual totch. After all degeneracy has no limit, so freedom of speech has to be limited to the fool.
What are u talking about Sir ? Please don't insult my intelligence, what god within ourselves, u and i shit everyday... When i start thinking like an atheist i get the urge to revolt and agress on the imbecils. Kinda like law of jungle...that's what i start thinking, certainly not good state of mind for me, it will dangerous to others
@Sam10947 "I'm not the one who's claiming the intellectual torch and pretending to know the answer"
You believe there is a creator, Atheists do not, so you are making a claim without evidence and Atheists are denying it because of that very lack of evidence.
As for your former claim that we're arrogant this is bullshit. We know the human mind hallucinates and we know that in near death experiences the brain, you know that thing governing ALL of your senses, is flooded with chemicals and (cont)
when u say we, what do u mean by we, cause if u'r talking about scientists, i'm one in a different field but statistics, logic, and mathemtics are my tools for judging other fields of science,..and don't believe NDE is chemical. i believe in causality not necesarily a particular thing for the sake of argument
@Sam10947 I have a hard time believing that comment when you use U but it's irrelevant. What you believe and what reality is, are not dependent on one another. The facts are the brain hallucinates when deprived of oxygen and thus dying do to the chemicals and desperate rapid firing synapses sending warning signals through the body. What evidence do you have that it is not caused by this but instead something else?
what evidence doi u have that the firing of chemicals will create a conformant ordered train of thoughts, what proof do u have that when the brain is starved of oxygen create random or deterministic processes of the mind to create a scenario that tells about on going events and even remote event in certain circumstances. What proof do u have that lack of oxygen can bring ppl back from a clinically identifed dead state.
@Sam10947 Now with your lack of grammar I really do believe you lied about the scientist claim. That aside we know these things create hallucinations as we can purposely invoke the situation to create the effects, and many experiences described of what people said they thought or heard after do not always (in fact often don't) match up with what actually occured to everyone else in the room. Combine this with vastly varied accounts of "supernatural claims" and the claims are unreliable.
oright now u've gone from no evidence to it's just not convincing...well yeah, so does 9/11 is not convincing to lot of ppl, that holocaust never happened...so where does that leave u. It pays to have an open mind, trust me...u have to inquire to reach ur own conclusion and if u seek and think critically u'll reach a conclusion that u wouldn't find the need to frequent these kind of videos, i do it because i like watching them, what's ur excuse
oright now u've gone from no evidence to it's just not convincing...well yeah, so does 911 is not convincing to lot of ppl, that holocaust never happened...so where does that leave u. It pays to have an open mind, trust me...u have to inquire to reach ur own conclusion and if u seek and think critically u'll reach a conclusion that u wouldn't find the need to frequent these kind of videos, i do it because i like watching them, what's ur excuse
oright now u've gone from no evidence to it's just not convincing...well yeah, so does 9eleven is not convincing to lot of ppl, that holocaust never happened...so where does that leave u. It pays to have an open mind, trust me...u have to inquire to reach ur own conclusion and if u seek and think critically u'll reach a conclusion that u wouldn't find the need to frequent these kind of videos, i do it because i like watching them, what's ur excuse
oright, where is ur proof, that there are experiences that do not match what happened.where ? if u r talking about real NDE, the experiences have common grounds
@Sam10947 My proof? Asking me to disprove NDE's is foolish, my disbelief is based solely off the lack of reliable, testable evidence for them. Without this evidence belief is not justified... especially when one considers the claims are all coming from brains that where malfunctioning at the time of the accounts.
It is no more my burden to disprove them than it is to disprove bigfoot as the claim is not being made by me. Burden of proof, learn it please.
no ii isn't foolsih, because we have ppl claiming stuff that couldn't be explained rationally like describing events that they are bounded not to have known...this is indicative of a supernatural realm regardless of its nature or origin.
@Sam10947 Yes it is foolish and yes there is a rational explanation (even if you don't want to except it and instead attribute it to "magic").
The brain, even if malfunctioning and distorting feed back IS none the less recording stimuli. So it's not unthinkable that some things a person could see or hear while in such a state would be real, certainly not all, certainly not most, but some? Sure, it's possible. Again however, a personal testimony IS NOT proof do to the malfunctioning (cont)
no u are putting word into mu mouth, i said in veiw of the clinical death we have experiences that conscious, do u have proof that is recording stimuli while at these experiences, cause that's why perplexing doctors
The brain is not dead and thus semi-functioning, we know while the brain is functioning it records stimuli. This is why it is near death and not death experiences. Clinically dead (which btw is not what most NDE's are recorded from thus the term NEAR death) simply means that the brain ceases "measurable" function after 20-40 seconds, thus during this span of time (and possibly after) there is still brain activity.
u said "The brain is not dead and thus semi-functioning, we know while the brain is functioning it records stimuli" so despite of the established nroms and scientific method by which a person is judged to be dead or not, u come here and u render frivolous science. doctor say they are dead, yet by the sheer arrogance and ignorrance of science want to assert otherwise. look who talking about chidlish here
i gave u an example, see Dr. Rudy Loyd testimony, but of course u gonna attempt to dismiss that. he he he, i don't really if i should find ppl like u entertaining from their sheer ignorrance, or rather annoying to th epoint i want displace their jaw from the sheer stupidity
You behavior is quite typical of gullible sheep that will suck up anything that conforms to their beliefs, but will ignore testimonies from competing religions, I really would like to know why a Dr. should make a testimony any more reliable on the face value.
There is no serious research on NDE, because it’s clearly nonsense and the phenomena is well known to people that understand how the brain works, research is based on testimonies, nothing more.
@saintpine Um, actually people who understand how the brain works are stymied, because they know that people don't dream in an unconscious state, which is what you're in when your heart stops. So these NDE's shouldn't exist.
@Sam10947 (cont) NOT going to give the most reliable memory of events at the time. In fact, in every controlled test done around near death victims (placing a sign in the operating room that they couldn't have seen from their position) not one has succeeded in proving a near death experience. Instead we get stories of things that happen after the fact like "so and so was talking about me in the hall. We can not test the truthfulness of these claims as they are merely eye witness accounts (cont)
@Sam10947 As I said in a former message, personal testimony is not reliable. When the brain is dying it's likely going to pull up memories or dreams based upon the persons personal beliefs (this is why we have NDE's that are claimed to "confirm" the beliefs of nigh every religion).
When there is an epidemic about a new strain of virus, that is unknown, and ppl come to u complaining and telling u that they feel terrible, u being a doctor, do u discredit their encouters and their experience on the pretext that there is no evidence for it, well ppl are complaining, u have to take their word for in order to understand the phenomena. So what makes u this bias, is it because of the religious aftertaste or God vibe. Clearly it isn't a character of a rational man
@Sam10947 No, because we can test for a Virus, we know viruses exist in the natural world as we have millions cataloged, we can test for a fever and other such effects. If the patient came, was tested, and had 0 symptoms then we give them what we call a placebo (a sugar pill that does nothing) and guess what, a lot of people get better because their imagined disease goes away. It's called hypochondria.
@Sam10947 No, because we can test for a Virus, we know viruses exist in the natural world as we have millions cataloged, we can test for a fever and other such effects. If the patient came, was tested, and had 0 symptoms then we give them what we call a placebo (a sugar pill that does nothing) and guess what, a lot of people get better because their imagined disease goes away. It's called hypochondria.
@Sam10947 No, because we can test for a Virus, we know viruses exist in the natural world as we have millions cataloged, we can test for a fever and other such effects. If the patient came, was tested, and had 0 symptoms then we give them what we call a placebo (a sugar pill that does nothing) and guess what, a lot of people get better because their imagined disease goes away. It's called hypochondria.
@Sam10947 (cont) On top of this you call me irrational? Why is believing that the one device used for recording everything you see, hear, smell, taste, and feel (physical and emotionally) is not a reliable source of information when it is missing a key component. It's like telling me it's irrational to believe that a car with it's gas tank filled with honey won't drive well.
well because if u think about, ppl that believe in pure evolutionary processes without intervention are the one claiming random processes that lead to enthropy, which in of itself must not lead to ordered consciousness if the process is random, why should it be reliable then for judgment. and Why wouldn't u take ppl experience as reliable as they can clearly remember everything even in the absence of sign of life
@Sam10947 Wrong. Ordered consciousness occurs because it has a chance to occur and is beneficial, that's all. To claim there must be intervention is childish. Evolution is not purely random, natural selection weeds out the randomness as the non-beneficial developments of genetics aren't the traits that get passed on over a long period of time as such traits will, if bad enough, kill off the carriers of the trait.
Thus positive traits carry over and build and build until complexity is achieved.
i didn't claim intervention, what i was doing is critique the assertions made by the evolutionary theorists. That in light of enthroy we witness chaos, yet we have order, u say because it's beneficial, but why should i trust ur judgement to be true if truth isn't at eaither side of us. and No critiquing those that throw speculative refutation isn't chidlish, but they're the ones that are childish
@Sam10947 Yes you did, you said, and I quote (with better grammar) "pure evolutionary processes without INTERVENTION are the ones claiming random processes that lead to entropy".
We witness chaos and order, why do you only acknowledge one? Everything is cause and effect, it's simply the way physics work this in itself is a form of order, no intervention required.
pure evolutionary processes without INTERVENTION are the ones claiming random processes that lead to entropy" yep i said that but u failed to grasp what i'm saying. It is submitted that evolutionary theorist that enthroy in closed system leads to disorder, so they evade by saying it's an open loop system, but how is it oppen loop in time of abiogenesis, to continue on the point, random processes do not lead to order, continued
@Sam10947 Where is this closed system? You are showing your blatant ignorance of the second law of thermo dynamics. I suggest you educate yourself on the matter, in fact I'll provide a very good link that debunks this tired and old claim (it's been done thousands of times before yet somehow creationists continue to spew this garbage)
@Sam10947 Enough that I can spell your, entropy, and so on and so forth. I don't pretend to be a scientist though hoping that gives my baseless argument validity nor do I rely on my degree to give my argument weight, I rely on the evidence I provide and the logic I use to do so... unlike you sir.
I believe however we are done here as I presented you with evidence and you choose happily to ignore it making debating you rather pointless as you have shown yourself to be willfully ignorant.
@Sam10947 Sure you can, and your a scientist right? Also apparently a clinical liar.
I haven't answered your question because your question is irrelevant, the only purpose of asking such a question is so you could use an ad hominem attack by swinging around your e-peen instead of addressing points made in the actual argument.
So no I will not entertain such a pointless request that's rather blatantly made as an excuse to not counter points and instead try to argue authority.
it's because, u r talking rubbish non sense about second law of thermodynamics and open systems....so no u haven't made any argument all u r adoing is argument from assertions, and just appeal to authority except that authority isn't siding with u, u r making shit up
so saying that beneficial mutuation led to this as random processes, that remains unverifiable and theoretically impossible if u know ur physics. So until they prove that randomness lead to order then we'll be on the same page, and lot of sceintists alos recognize this
@Sam10947 (cont) as for the epidemic question no, if a person came in making such claims I'd test for the results. Now if the person making these claims was insane and their brain wasn't functioning properly then yes, I'd likely disbelieve the claims where accurate representations of what was really happening, this seems to be the key point you're happily blatantly ignoring.
u'd make a test but it turned negative, it is a new epidemic, means there is a problem at hand...ignorring it isn't an ethical practice of a doctor. ppl are complaining u have to investigate, and take ppl described symptoms as they are.
@Sam10947 And believing every hypochondriacs claim is not rational. The test IS investigating, if it comes up negative then nothing further can be done (besides different variants of tests) until noticeable symptoms can be detected.
@Sam10947 (cont) by fellow believers that would likely be happy to lie if it supported their God. The fact is there are many different people of many different religions that ALL claim to have had encounters with their deity or supernatural entities from their deity, they can't all be right and thus personal testimony like this is NOT reliable evidence.
Which is a good point, "the fact that it is experienced by multitude of ppl from different backgournd", u seem to confuse attribution with the event. Of course ppl will try to attribute the event to whatever they hold dear to themselves or what ever they revear, but the patterns of this supernatural event remain identical to a large degree, and that u couldn't deny it let alone refute it
@Sam10947 It doesn't matter, if the experiences all vary in background (ie angels, aliens, dead relatives, figures from a specific religion, etc) it does not confirm that there is anything supernatural but merely that a part of that persons mind (their belief) is manifested to their senses. Knowing again that your one recording device that governs all of your senses is spasmining, being flooded with endorphens and dying makes it a very unreliable source of evidence. Now don't mistake me (cont)
@Sam10947 (cont) I'm not saying all of these experiences are false or lies, I'm saying that the evidence you're presenting is not convincing. Someone could tell me they saw a leprechaun and that these beings hide with magic, I couldn't refute the claim without having been there, but I can certainly justify disbelieving the claim as a hallucination or a lie do to the complete lack of reliable evidence presented.
oright now u've gone from no evidence to it's just not convincing...well yeah, so does 9/11 is not convincing to lot of ppl, that holocaust never happened...so where does that leave u. It pays to have an open mind, trust me...u have to inquire to reach ur own conclusion and if u seek and think critically u'll reach a conclusion that u wouldn't find the need to frequent these kind of videos, i do it because i like watching them, what's ur excuse
oright now u've gone from no evidence to it's just not convincing...well yeah, so does 9/11 is not convincing to lot of ppl, that holocaust never happened...so where does that leave u. It pays to have an open mind, trust me...u have to inquire to reach ur own conclusion and if u seek and think critically u'll reach a conclusion that u wouldn't find the need to frequent these kind of videos, i do it because i like watching them, what's ur excuse
oright now u've gone from no evidence to it's just not convincing...well yeah, so does 9/11 is not convincing to lot of ppl, that holocaust never happened...so where does that leave u. It pays to have an open mind, trust me...u have to inquire to reach ur own conclusion and if u seek and think critically u'll reach a conclusion that u wouldn't find the need to frequent these kind of videos, i do it because i like watching them, what's ur excuse
oright now u've gone from no evidence to it's just not convincing...well yeah, so does 9/11 is not convincing to lot of ppl, that holocaust never happened...so where does that leave u. It pays to have an open mind, trust me...u have to inquire to reach ur own conclusion and if u seek and think critically u'll reach a conclusion that u wouldn't find the need to frequent these kind of videos, i do it because i like watching them, what's ur excuse
Hello Sir, I think your intentions are good sharing your message. I recently started researching NDE's and have drawn a conclusion that there is something after this which I was not sure of and that there is a God.
I now believe there is a Heaven & Hell and being a good person going to church is not enough to get you to heaven. It's all about love, caring for everyone and learning to be thankful to him he created us. I never talked like this even a week ago, but its like my eyes are open.
I, as an atheist, do have somewhere I can go to seek peace and shelter from life's problems and that place is the personal satisfaction and sense of accomplishment derived from motivating myself to action to solve the problems I'm capable of handling myself, and the love and support of my friends and family when things are outside of my ability to control and influence.
Hell does not exist! Man created Hell and the bible was written by Man not God. God is pure love, unconditional love and with that is unconditional forgiveness. The Light does not punish you. When you die you will have a life review but the review is a teaching for you (Soul) in the spirtual realm. Our teaching here on Earth is Love..Pure and Simple!
@muaythaiguy6669 With all of the research I have done on NDE's I am not worried about dying at all. I am very grateful to have this life here on Earth and it is truly an awesome gift from the Light! I am very blessed. I have seen the video you mentioned Atheist Professor In Hell. Have you checked out iands.org Some great NDE accounts. Go to NDE Stories/Accounts and read "Understand the Gift to Enjoy the Treasure" and many other great stories. Great Video accounts as well.
DAMN I SHOULD HAVE NEVER TAKEN ACID!!! It was only 3 months ago and now look were my planet is headed. PLEASE HELP ME!!! I need to know what happens when we die, im really freaked out. do we enter a better world, cause this place sucks?
@gotracts I love Jesus and His teachings and try to follow them. I notice that you don't. Jesus said to judge not. love one another, return good for evil. forgive your enemies. to love God with all your heart and soul, to do good deeds, to go the second mile, but all I see from you is condemnation and judgements.
People who hold fear, teach fear, people who hold love, teach love. It is time for you to look at yourself and start loving what you see. You are not the judge of anyone.
@Lekatt1 Jesus has taken and showed me heaven many times throughout my life! We're all sinners who must repent! Anyone who says they have no sin is calling God a liar! 1 John 1:8-10! I repent daily, and although He's taken me to heaven and I see Angels daily, I still beg God to have mercy on my soul! Let's focus on leading lost souls to Jesus Christ! Billions of people are on there way to hell daily! In the 1980's only 1000 out of a million people made it into heaven! Let's focus on the lost!
@gotracts I seriously doubt what you say, but I know that fear can cause hallucinations. There is no eternal hell, it does not exist. A God of love does not send His children to hell. I had a near death experience and was there in His unconditional love and knowledge. You are only teaching religious doctrine and not facts. The Bible was the word of men and not God. No one is lost, God does not lose anyone, He is perfect and created us perfect in His image. I will pray you understand my words.
@Lekatt1 I know you won't believe what I say either, that's okay i'm going to tell you anyway. I was an atheist. I didn't believe in any of this, God, Hell, Heaven, Angels or demons. God spoke to me and told me I was so wrong about all of that. The Bible is the Truth 100% The OT might talk about the grave but Jesus talked about an actual place of fire and and torment. If you don't believe in Hell than you don't believe in the same God the Bible speaks about. God is love but he is also Just!
@babipassion25 Christians are taught in the Bible that God is all knowing which I do not doubt. Hypothetical: God created your soul or a soul. God would already know at that time of creation whether or not that particular soul was comdemmed to Hell or going to heaven. Why would God create a soul if it was already determined at creation that the soul was going to Hell? God is pure love! Unconditional love and with that is unconditional forgiveness. There is no hell.
@icoltsi18 You don't think there's a hell because you don't think or want there to be a hell. What you say or think or want doesn't matter. I was an atheist all of my life and had a serious experience with God and I tried to get into Christian Universalism(believe Jesus closed the gates to hell) and then into the book "Conversations with God"(no hell only God) Those books got destroyed and God talked to me again and told me all of those are wrong and the thing I dreaded(hell) is definitely real.
@babipassion25 So what you say or think or want does matter? The bible is not 100% truth. How could it be as the Bible is the word of man not God. You say the Bible is 100% truth but in fact you have nothing to back that up at all which is just religious doctrine and no fact. I know one thing that you have an awful fear and you should not fear God (The Light) as God is pure love. Its not that I want or don't want there to be a hell, I know there is no Hell. Hell is Man Made.
@icoltsi18 What I say or think or want DOESN'T matter either. I didn't want there to be a hell. Who in their right mind wants there to be a hell? You don't know anything. You haven't died yet. You have NDE'S that are your evidence? Well what about the other half of people who have seen hell when they die? You just dismiss them because it's not what you want to hear? I was an atheist until I found out the truth by an actual experience not by being raised a Christian or being influenced by others.
@MrSlippin22 Jesus taught love not fear, take your fear teaching elsewhere. Nothing bad is going to happen to you, you are safe and secure in the embrace of God and so is everyone else. You are reading the words of man and not of God.
@MrSlippin22 Please don't spread your fear of God. God of unconditional love, and does not punish anyone for anything. The Bible you quote was written by men not God. God wrote His word on the hearts of mankind --Love.
all others are his wrath because he wants to and he can
Romans 9: 10-21 Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God's purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls—she was told, "The older will serve the younger." Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated
Only one way to heaven and that is if God chooses you to the likeness of his son
Ephesians 1:5 God decided in advance to adopt us into his own family by bringing us to himself through Jesus Christ. This is what he wanted to do, and it gave him great pleasure.Ephesians 1:5 he predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will
lekatt I think as you do. All will know.
Tonithenightowl 2 hours ago
@Tonithenightowl Yes they will, thanks.
Lekatt1 1 hour ago
Extremely few people who die and are then resuscitated have near death experiences. How do you explain the millions of revived "dead" people who don't have any supernatural experience?
youngdones 4 days ago
@youngdones There are many reasons for this: they have an experience but can't remember, They were not dead long enough to have one, etc. and others.
Lekatt1 1 hour ago
@Lekatt1 I know someone whose heart stopped for five minutes after an accident, and she insists that she didn't see anything and did not have any recollection of what went on during those five minutes. It was just like "being asleep" and not having a dream. So I would assume that this is what it is like being dead, for eternity!
youngdones 19 minutes ago
Anyway I am not at all able now to understand the evil of the religious thinking and tradition.
That "god" Yahweh of the Jews has advised how to efficiently perform Ethnic Cleansing long before Hitler!
How can anybody believe in such a monster?
As for the anti-gay campaign of the Religious Right, I can only say that there was so much humiliatian and suffering in my life, that I would pray (if I would be a believer) that all that evil would come in the life of Christians at least for one day!
48acar19 1 week ago
Continuation:
It was extremely difficult to become an atheist, because I was heavily invested in the christian belief system, but somehow I made it.
I do not regret anything now: I am an atheist and a scientist too. Science is busy eliminating the lies from our lives; science is a method in fact. I love science. But that does not make me rigid and stupid. On the contrary: I accept everything that is factual. The mission of science is to find explanations, not to deny facts.Sometimes ambiguity!
48acar19 1 week ago
@48acar19 I read all your posts and I do understand how you feel about religion. I have listened to many gay stories like yours. But there is hope and peace for everyone. We are all spiritual. We all have a spirit and was created by a loving Creator who continues to love us just the way we are. One doesn't have to be religious I am not. You might read my book and there you will find the answers. If you can't afford it email me. I am appalled by those who claim to be followers of Jesus
Lekatt1 1 week ago
@Lekatt1 Continued. yet don't know what Jesus stood for which was love one another. They will be surprised when they cross over to learn there is no religion in the spiritual world. If you want to talk email me.
Lekatt1 1 week ago
I was a Christian believer until the age of 17. At 13 I knew that I like boys, but I thought I am like every other child. Gradually I learned to hate myself because of the Religion of Jesus Christ, which comes as a package, with St'Paul's awful message of hate and with the ancient hatred from the "OLD Testament". Any so-called Christian would say that Jesus also hated gays because he has condemned "Sodom and Gomorrah".
I failed to kill myself at 17, but then I decided to become an atheist.
48acar19 1 week ago
@48acar19 You don't have to be an atheist to be gay. To my knowledge Jesus never said one word against gays.
Tonithenightowl 3 hours ago
Yours is a wonderful message but I suspect it will fall upon deaf ears. Atheists and dogmatic theists have more in common than they would be able to understand-- and yet Atheists are convinced that they are "true" intellectuals.a I don't think they are not looking for an "anchor" -- in fact, that is their most popular criticism of spirituality or religion. They do not react well to emotional approaches. IMHO, agnosticism shows true intellectual integrity, while Atheism is a dogmatic religion.
adaptiveagile 1 week ago
@adaptiveagile Yes, I suspect you are correct, thanks for the compliment.
Lekatt1 1 week ago
Dimethyltryptamine
thecsslife 2 weeks ago
@thecsslife People who have near death experiences never heard of DMT. It is not a factor in any way. You need to read the research.
Lekatt1 2 weeks ago
@Lekatt1 Ive read reports of people who have taken it, and read
the book DMT: the spirit molecule and a few other studies.
thecsslife 2 weeks ago
@thecsslife Read the real research on NDEs, drugs or the brain have nothing to do with them. The scientific theories are wrong no one has even induced a real NDE with drugs. Go to the site provided and read a real experience.
Lekatt1 2 weeks ago
@Lekatt1 DMT is realised when someone has a near death experience, from reports that I have read, many people said that they died in their experience, that they saw the end of the tunnel. Smoked or intravenous DMT creates near identical effects as when someone has an NDE. Also, high levels of phylicybin/psilocin can create near effects of DMT, probably because they're quite close molecules.
thecsslife 2 weeks ago
@thecsslife the drug does not cause near death experiences, those that claim it does simple don't know what they are talking about. The experience is cause by clinical death. Just because someone sees a light or tunnel does not mean they had a near death experience. It is much more complex and has many aspects to it, Go to kenkatin dot com and read one.
Lekatt1 2 weeks ago
@thecsslife If the drug caused NDE then it would simply be poison.
thecsslife 2 weeks ago
@Lekatt1 atheist have an explanation for just about every thing the bible says. it sounds to me it is a spirtual battle with. don't trust everything science and the education system tell these organizations are ran the government as welll as the media and hitler used such things to brainwash people in the past as well as the romans they used heralds (newsgivers) to broadcast for the romans entrest. be careful satans new world order is big and the conspiracy runs deep. alot of false info everywhe
jacosoft666 2 weeks ago
@jacosoft666 You have missed the point. I am not a religious person. I have issues with religion as well as science. They neither understand what life is all about.
Lekatt1 2 weeks ago
@Lekatt1 I applaud the work you are doing. It always amazes me that your critics, both theist and atheist, always resort to the same old arguments that only serve to prove that they are unwilling to honestly view the research, and that they are stuck in their own bigoted belief systems. An atheists, who supposedly worships science, refuses to look at the scientific research with an open mind - no less the hypocrite than a dogmatic religious fundamentalist. It's maddening.
rlcbabaji3 1 week ago
@rlcbabaji3 They only read other atheist material which echoes their belief so they learn nothing. If you want to learn read everything on the subject. Thanks for the compliment.
Lekatt1 1 week ago
@Lekatt1 atheist will sometimes go out of there way not to believe in a God. it is a spiritual battle. If there was no spirtual battle within atheist they would not spend hours on articles and blog sites of God trying to tell people not to believe inhim. believeing is bad for an athiest becuase it destroys pride and requires us to feel guilty suffer and change our live. which cause shame. but without guilt we would not know right from wrong. live by faith and god will come to you
jacosoft666 2 weeks ago
@jacosoft666 you are agood man with a lot of wisdom. religion makes people feel opressed but not me i guess. belief faith is a beautiful thing.
jacosoft666 2 weeks ago
@jacosoft666 Yes, they are fearful to really study the subject. If they did they would find nothing to be afraid of.
Lekatt1 1 week ago
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@jacosoft666 NUTS; atheists don`t believe because you can`t provide EVIDENCE for what they are supposed to believe.
ndzoko 1 week ago
oh ,I love reading comments of shaking boot atheists.
8Recon8 2 weeks ago
For To Long, People have underestimated the Strength of the ATHEIST ARMY Of FREE THINKERS, Who REFUSE TO USE TERROR, Fight In Corrupt Wars Or Believe In Fake Gods, But who Have ALWAYS BELIEVED AND FOUGHT FOR TRUTH LOVE and LOGIC, therefore PEACE, We Are The Ones Who HOLD HOPE IN OUR HEARTS AND SOULS, That Humanity May Evolve To Reach Our Full Potential.
zeropointemcs 2 weeks ago
@zeropointemcs Now we have heard from the other side of the fence. I like truth, love, and logic.
Lekatt1 2 weeks ago
Old man you preach heresy deception and lies. The human soul is of course ETERNAL. That is not an issue. The issue is will your ETERNAL SOUL have EVERLASTING LIFE THROUGH CHRIST JESUS or will your ETERNAL SOUL have ETERNAL DAMNATION IN HELL THROUGH THE SINS OF YOUR FLESH . DONT LET SATAN DECEIVE YOU. There are only these 2 OPTIONS. Anything else is a DECEPTION.
LPATWILLFILM 2 weeks ago
@LPATWILLFILM If you see only two options in the world you have limited yourself and need to do some studying because the options in this world are in the millions. I am not deceived by anyone, certainly not one that does not exist. Since you are teaching damnation you must believe in it and are very afraid of it. God loves you just as you are right now, no need to judge others. Just follow the teachings of Jesus and love everyone, it will take away your fear of Satan.
Lekatt1 2 weeks ago
When you see a being made out of light walk through walls witnessed by myself and my spouse, you just know there is far more to life than the material world.
Atheist on the net have this annoying habit of demanding proof which when presented they refuse to look at. Then they sit there all day every day chanting their mantra its all not true. If you look at the data for psi the odds against it all being chance are trillions to one. We are manifestations of the Universal Mind.
whitenightf3 3 weeks ago
@whitenightf3 Yes we are, and it is great. We have the proof.
Lekatt1 3 weeks ago
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whitenightf3 3 weeks ago
A belief in god and in afterlife makes you feel better! DUH!
skydragon4ever 3 weeks ago
@skydragon4ever
Medical field has dismiss that it could be just to make you feel better.
ninetailschris 3 weeks ago
@ninetailschris psychologically it makes you feel better by giving you emotions like security, protectiveness, etc. Knowing there is something after - gives you a meaning and avoids you to feel desperation. It makes sense.
I've studied psychology for years, and know my stuff.
skydragon4ever 3 weeks ago
@skydragon4ever
It doesn't matter if you studied psychology because this doesn't deal with it.This deals with neuroscience.
ninetailschris 3 weeks ago
@ninetailschris what does belief have to do with neuroscience?
Like I said, from psychological point of view, a belief in god and in the afterlife has more benefits than non believing. We're not talking NDE's here because it makes no difference.
skydragon4ever 3 weeks ago
@skydragon4ever
This has nothing to do with a belief in a belief in god.This has to deal with afterlife which is being discuss by people who deal with this area.Neuroscience have said you shouldn't have the ability to have conscious when the brain is dead and nerves.There have been people who have found out information outside of there location in which they are dead.For example, one lady was able to hear a conversation of her parents in a lunch room which was yards away.Beyond psychology.
ninetailschris 3 weeks ago
@ninetailschris Spare me the propaganda, I know what NDE is and I know it's real. I was talking about something else. And he talks about it in the beginning of the video.
Why there are more suicides among atheists? Because a belief in an afterlife and a god gives you more positive emotions than non believeing. That's all! And It doesn't have to be true, it simply makes you feel better. It's logic.
But I've read about NDE and know they're true.
skydragon4ever 3 weeks ago
@skydragon4ever
What propaganda?"Why there are more suicides among atheists? Because a belief in an afterlife and a god gives you more positive emotions than non believeing." I don't know what your saying here because it seems your implying that NDE are made by trying to be positive but there have been people who have claim to have gone to hell which is not positive at all.Plus when your brain dies there is no reason to believe it would try to make you happy seeing as your dead already.
ninetailschris 3 weeks ago
@ninetailschris Are you dumb? How old are you?
I KNOW WHAT NDE IS AND I BELIEVE IT, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT NDE, LEAVE IT ASIDE!
I'm talking generally about belief and its psychological benefit. That's all. Don't talk to me about nde anymore, it's purely psychological talk here.
Oh and for the record, the nde about hell it's bullshit. It was staged. Hell does not exist. Religion made it up.
skydragon4ever 3 weeks ago
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@skydragon4ever
"Are you dumb? How old are you?"
Calm down, you are greatly overreacting.
"Oh and for the record, the nde about hell it's bullshit."
Oh so hundreds of people who had hell experiences are all lying.You can type in google or youtube and you will find random people talking about going to hell.You sound like there are some conspirators out there trying to trick you or something.
ninetailschris 2 weeks ago
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@Sam10947 "sweetheart ? a faggot rn't u ."
No sunshine, it's a way an adult addresses a toddler, you are either a young uneducated boy, or a middle east adult with the equivalent education of a 15 year old European.
You have serious issues, you words have absolutely no effect on me, it’s like a young boy that shows me a middle finger, I would laugh and say how sweet, I could never be offended by a kid, but you most probably would beat the shit of him: Very mature indeed.
saintpine 4 weeks ago
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@Sam10947 "Renowoned Dr have been conducting research on this toipic for 30 years, where the fuck do u live papua guinea ?"
Like I said the research is based on testimonies, there is nothing else they can work on.
It's like collecting stories to write telenovellas.
saintpine 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 (cont) particularly long video or article where you had to hunt for the explanation but I didn't. You're intellectual laziness is impressive only to yourself.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 Again it's Entropy, how do you expect anyone to take you seriously if you repeatedly (even after being given the correct spelling) continue to misspell the Law you're talking about?
Also nice to know that when presented with evidence that debunks your claim that you instead completely ignore it instead of looking into it and addressing it. No wonder you still believe the claim is valid, you're willfully ignorant.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
I would expect a higher ratio of suicide in atheists ONLY because there is no reason for them to cling onto a further day or two of intense suffering on their death bed, and no theocratic threats to avoid suicide.
There is no indication that atheist commits more suicide, considering the differences around a few out of every 100.000 and there is no clear trend comparing levels of religiosity, equal quality of life or GDP.
Theists shouldn't have a problem considering they have another life.
saintpine 4 weeks ago
@saintpine I would not expect a higher rate of sucide from Atheists, in fact I think if you look at the very simple fact that we DON'T believe in an after life that this would be the most obvious reason why the suicide factor is lower. We don't believe in an after life and thus we believe that this life is all we have making it infinitely more precious.
Why would we end our lives early when they're all we have. Some life > no life.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord "Why would we end our lives early when they're all we have. Some life > no life."
I agree with everything, I was talking about the death bed; this means the atheist will be dead in a day, a week or whatever. There is no solution to the problem.
At this point an atheist is at the end of his life, if he terminates it beforehand because he refuses to be tortured till his last breath, this death is classified as suicide, when in reality the person would be dead anyway.
saintpine 4 weeks ago
@saintpine Well it's rather simple, for one we typically still value those last few days, two the thought of simply ending is scary. Disbelief in a God does not mean a lack of hope that the body will recover as this, even if extremely rare, has been documented to happen. Doctors are playing with statistics after all, when they say "you'll likely be dead within x" it's not always accurate, they are simply making the most accurate statement they can based on what data they can collect at the time.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
Sure, consider that you are in severe pain with morphine in your body and your chances of an unexplainable miracle is one out of a 1.000.000, your conscious attention is all on the pain and moaning, you have no time for other thoughts and hopes.
This is the typical situation that over 100.000 people go through every day in the world, lets say 10 of them terminate their lives, maybe two are atheists, can you statistically come to any conclusion from this data?
saintpine 4 weeks ago
@saintpine Oh I agree, if I was in horrible pain and bound to be for the rest of my life and truly believed so then yes, I'd end my own life. However the vast majority of suicides don't fall into this situation and your original claim was merely "I would expect a higher rate of suicide from Atheists". Now given I understand that you now mean within the context of a specific situation, but the overall rate is determinant on all other situations as well, not a small niche.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
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Consciousness is controlled by the brain, survival of our being and psyche after physical death is utterly impossible. Near Death Experiences are hallucinations caused by chemical reactions and dying brain cells. There is NO such utopian metaphysical world waiting for us after we die. The laws of physics dictate that this is IMPOSSIBLE!!!!
LIGHTS OUT!
youngdones 1 month ago
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EVERYBODY WHO DISBELIVES! Islam is the truth. Look, if you want to disbelieve in Islam then I can't stop you as there is no compulsion in religion because the truth is clear TO YOU. Islam is true. In the Hereafter or Day of Judgement don't even think of saying no warner came unto me or send me back my Lord or I will believe in you now or I regret what I did in the world. Don't say these things in the hereafter because YOU choose to disbelieve in your Lord and not worship Allah and do good.
ZaeemIslamSoldier 1 month ago
Nobody knows, noone has arisen from the dead in modern times to tell us what if anything is on the other side, that is the bottom line. I think it's just darkness, peace, ideally, it's a perpetual dream of some sort. If people really knew what was on the other side, and that side was much better than the life we currently enjoy, people would be jumping off bridges yesterday.
TheAngeltoDemon 1 month ago
Noticed that an Atheist Only Prays when they're in Danger.
worldwildwest 1 month ago
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@worldwildwest "Noticed that an Atheist Only Prays when they're in Danger."
That simply means that or you or the person you call an atheist have no idea what atheism means.
saintpine 4 weeks ago
I understand what he mean of the existence of a universal Master Designer (not the god of any man-made religion) besides, you don't have to belong to any Earthy religion to Believe in God , it is ok to have your temporary doubts and arrogance, but rest assured you're going to face the day and time to meet your maker.
worldwildwest 1 month ago
To say that suicide won't take a person out of life is a lie. It will.
jiberias 1 month ago
Atheists-----no soul
nhendrych 1 month ago
@nhendrych Nobody has a soul, moron.
theBartone9119 1 month ago
Everyone ha there own beliefs. Don't go shoving god down peoples throats and us atheists won't shove anything in yours
LPmelaniphy 1 month ago
thanks man.God bless you.
pichez5 1 month ago
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All have sinned and greatly offended the holy God of the bible. The just punishment is death then hell. That's not Gods will. He suffered and died on the cross paying for the law you broke in His life's blood so He could legally dismiss your case. You must repent turn from your sin and trust alone in Jesus Christ for your salvation.
mamainmancj 2 months ago
This has made realize that atheist fucknuts in theri brain, even in light of a spirtual experience they still cringe to the thought of a creator, isn't that some colossal arrogance
Sam10947 2 months ago
@Sam10947 We should not judge others until we make no mistakes ourselves.
Lekatt1 2 months ago
@Lekatt1
Elucidate on this...i'm not the one who's claiming the intellectual torch and pretending to know the answer by saying there i no creator. if atheists are honest with themselves they'd be at best agnostics, they make as much of a leap by discrading the rather more likely a cause than not.
Sam10947 2 months ago
@Sam10947 While I agree with your logic others are entitled to their own views, they are entitled to be wrong. I don't agree with name calling or derogatory remarks about others that don't think as we do.
Lekatt1 2 months ago
@Lekatt1
with all due respect, ppl like urself deserve respectful answer, but there are some that it's not because they have a different opinion, it's because they speak as if they claim the intellectual totch. After all degeneracy has no limit, so freedom of speech has to be limited to the fool.
Sam10947 2 months ago
@Sam10947 We honor the God within everyone with respect. Not what they believe or how they act.
Lekatt1 2 months ago
@Lekatt1
What are u talking about Sir ? Please don't insult my intelligence, what god within ourselves, u and i shit everyday... When i start thinking like an atheist i get the urge to revolt and agress on the imbecils. Kinda like law of jungle...that's what i start thinking, certainly not good state of mind for me, it will dangerous to others
Sam10947 2 months ago
@Sam10947 "I'm not the one who's claiming the intellectual torch and pretending to know the answer"
You believe there is a creator, Atheists do not, so you are making a claim without evidence and Atheists are denying it because of that very lack of evidence.
As for your former claim that we're arrogant this is bullshit. We know the human mind hallucinates and we know that in near death experiences the brain, you know that thing governing ALL of your senses, is flooded with chemicals and (cont)
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
when u say we, what do u mean by we, cause if u'r talking about scientists, i'm one in a different field but statistics, logic, and mathemtics are my tools for judging other fields of science,..and don't believe NDE is chemical. i believe in causality not necesarily a particular thing for the sake of argument
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 I have a hard time believing that comment when you use U but it's irrelevant. What you believe and what reality is, are not dependent on one another. The facts are the brain hallucinates when deprived of oxygen and thus dying do to the chemicals and desperate rapid firing synapses sending warning signals through the body. What evidence do you have that it is not caused by this but instead something else?
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
what evidence doi u have that the firing of chemicals will create a conformant ordered train of thoughts, what proof do u have that when the brain is starved of oxygen create random or deterministic processes of the mind to create a scenario that tells about on going events and even remote event in certain circumstances. What proof do u have that lack of oxygen can bring ppl back from a clinically identifed dead state.
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 Now with your lack of grammar I really do believe you lied about the scientist claim. That aside we know these things create hallucinations as we can purposely invoke the situation to create the effects, and many experiences described of what people said they thought or heard after do not always (in fact often don't) match up with what actually occured to everyone else in the room. Combine this with vastly varied accounts of "supernatural claims" and the claims are unreliable.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
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@DarkBunnyLord
oright now u've gone from no evidence to it's just not convincing...well yeah, so does 9/11 is not convincing to lot of ppl, that holocaust never happened...so where does that leave u. It pays to have an open mind, trust me...u have to inquire to reach ur own conclusion and if u seek and think critically u'll reach a conclusion that u wouldn't find the need to frequent these kind of videos, i do it because i like watching them, what's ur excuse
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
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@DarkBunnyLord
oright now u've gone from no evidence to it's just not convincing...well yeah, so does 911 is not convincing to lot of ppl, that holocaust never happened...so where does that leave u. It pays to have an open mind, trust me...u have to inquire to reach ur own conclusion and if u seek and think critically u'll reach a conclusion that u wouldn't find the need to frequent these kind of videos, i do it because i like watching them, what's ur excuse
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
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@DarkBunnyLord
oright now u've gone from no evidence to it's just not convincing...well yeah, so does 9eleven is not convincing to lot of ppl, that holocaust never happened...so where does that leave u. It pays to have an open mind, trust me...u have to inquire to reach ur own conclusion and if u seek and think critically u'll reach a conclusion that u wouldn't find the need to frequent these kind of videos, i do it because i like watching them, what's ur excuse
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
oright, where is ur proof, that there are experiences that do not match what happened.where ? if u r talking about real NDE, the experiences have common grounds
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 My proof? Asking me to disprove NDE's is foolish, my disbelief is based solely off the lack of reliable, testable evidence for them. Without this evidence belief is not justified... especially when one considers the claims are all coming from brains that where malfunctioning at the time of the accounts.
It is no more my burden to disprove them than it is to disprove bigfoot as the claim is not being made by me. Burden of proof, learn it please.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
no ii isn't foolsih, because we have ppl claiming stuff that couldn't be explained rationally like describing events that they are bounded not to have known...this is indicative of a supernatural realm regardless of its nature or origin.
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 Yes it is foolish and yes there is a rational explanation (even if you don't want to except it and instead attribute it to "magic").
The brain, even if malfunctioning and distorting feed back IS none the less recording stimuli. So it's not unthinkable that some things a person could see or hear while in such a state would be real, certainly not all, certainly not most, but some? Sure, it's possible. Again however, a personal testimony IS NOT proof do to the malfunctioning (cont)
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
no u are putting word into mu mouth, i said in veiw of the clinical death we have experiences that conscious, do u have proof that is recording stimuli while at these experiences, cause that's why perplexing doctors
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 What words did I put into your mouth?
The brain is not dead and thus semi-functioning, we know while the brain is functioning it records stimuli. This is why it is near death and not death experiences. Clinically dead (which btw is not what most NDE's are recorded from thus the term NEAR death) simply means that the brain ceases "measurable" function after 20-40 seconds, thus during this span of time (and possibly after) there is still brain activity.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
u said "The brain is not dead and thus semi-functioning, we know while the brain is functioning it records stimuli" so despite of the established nroms and scientific method by which a person is judged to be dead or not, u come here and u render frivolous science. doctor say they are dead, yet by the sheer arrogance and ignorrance of science want to assert otherwise. look who talking about chidlish here
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 Look I realize thinking is not your strong point, but how would a dead person live to tell you about their NDE?
I described the term CLINICALLY dead, come now use your brain before making such stupid comments.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 (cont) brain and the capability of simple lying.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 "like describing events that they are bounded not to have known"
Never seen or heard a reliable testimony, it's all personal claims, hearsay, and whatever.
It all can be explained with other more credible and more probable arguments even in the total lake of evidance.
saintpine 4 weeks ago
@saintpine
i gave u an example, see Dr. Rudy Loyd testimony, but of course u gonna attempt to dismiss that. he he he, i don't really if i should find ppl like u entertaining from their sheer ignorrance, or rather annoying to th epoint i want displace their jaw from the sheer stupidity
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947
You behavior is quite typical of gullible sheep that will suck up anything that conforms to their beliefs, but will ignore testimonies from competing religions, I really would like to know why a Dr. should make a testimony any more reliable on the face value.
There is no serious research on NDE, because it’s clearly nonsense and the phenomena is well known to people that understand how the brain works, research is based on testimonies, nothing more.
saintpine 4 weeks ago
@saintpine Um, actually people who understand how the brain works are stymied, because they know that people don't dream in an unconscious state, which is what you're in when your heart stops. So these NDE's shouldn't exist.
Shanbo26 3 weeks ago
@Sam10947 (cont) NOT going to give the most reliable memory of events at the time. In fact, in every controlled test done around near death victims (placing a sign in the operating room that they couldn't have seen from their position) not one has succeeded in proving a near death experience. Instead we get stories of things that happen after the fact like "so and so was talking about me in the hall. We can not test the truthfulness of these claims as they are merely eye witness accounts (cont)
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
it does not seem u have seen some of the other experiences, check an experience by Dr. Rudy Lyod.
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 As I said in a former message, personal testimony is not reliable. When the brain is dying it's likely going to pull up memories or dreams based upon the persons personal beliefs (this is why we have NDE's that are claimed to "confirm" the beliefs of nigh every religion).
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
When there is an epidemic about a new strain of virus, that is unknown, and ppl come to u complaining and telling u that they feel terrible, u being a doctor, do u discredit their encouters and their experience on the pretext that there is no evidence for it, well ppl are complaining, u have to take their word for in order to understand the phenomena. So what makes u this bias, is it because of the religious aftertaste or God vibe. Clearly it isn't a character of a rational man
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 No, because we can test for a Virus, we know viruses exist in the natural world as we have millions cataloged, we can test for a fever and other such effects. If the patient came, was tested, and had 0 symptoms then we give them what we call a placebo (a sugar pill that does nothing) and guess what, a lot of people get better because their imagined disease goes away. It's called hypochondria.
(cont)
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
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@Sam10947 No, because we can test for a Virus, we know viruses exist in the natural world as we have millions cataloged, we can test for a fever and other such effects. If the patient came, was tested, and had 0 symptoms then we give them what we call a placebo (a sugar pill that does nothing) and guess what, a lot of people get better because their imagined disease goes away. It's called hypochondria.
(cont)
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
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@Sam10947 No, because we can test for a Virus, we know viruses exist in the natural world as we have millions cataloged, we can test for a fever and other such effects. If the patient came, was tested, and had 0 symptoms then we give them what we call a placebo (a sugar pill that does nothing) and guess what, a lot of people get better because their imagined disease goes away. It's called hypochondria.
(cont)
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 (cont) On top of this you call me irrational? Why is believing that the one device used for recording everything you see, hear, smell, taste, and feel (physical and emotionally) is not a reliable source of information when it is missing a key component. It's like telling me it's irrational to believe that a car with it's gas tank filled with honey won't drive well.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
well because if u think about, ppl that believe in pure evolutionary processes without intervention are the one claiming random processes that lead to enthropy, which in of itself must not lead to ordered consciousness if the process is random, why should it be reliable then for judgment. and Why wouldn't u take ppl experience as reliable as they can clearly remember everything even in the absence of sign of life
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 Wrong. Ordered consciousness occurs because it has a chance to occur and is beneficial, that's all. To claim there must be intervention is childish. Evolution is not purely random, natural selection weeds out the randomness as the non-beneficial developments of genetics aren't the traits that get passed on over a long period of time as such traits will, if bad enough, kill off the carriers of the trait.
Thus positive traits carry over and build and build until complexity is achieved.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
i didn't claim intervention, what i was doing is critique the assertions made by the evolutionary theorists. That in light of enthroy we witness chaos, yet we have order, u say because it's beneficial, but why should i trust ur judgement to be true if truth isn't at eaither side of us. and No critiquing those that throw speculative refutation isn't chidlish, but they're the ones that are childish
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 Yes you did, you said, and I quote (with better grammar) "pure evolutionary processes without INTERVENTION are the ones claiming random processes that lead to entropy".
We witness chaos and order, why do you only acknowledge one? Everything is cause and effect, it's simply the way physics work this in itself is a form of order, no intervention required.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
pure evolutionary processes without INTERVENTION are the ones claiming random processes that lead to entropy" yep i said that but u failed to grasp what i'm saying. It is submitted that evolutionary theorist that enthroy in closed system leads to disorder, so they evade by saying it's an open loop system, but how is it oppen loop in time of abiogenesis, to continue on the point, random processes do not lead to order, continued
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 Where is this closed system? You are showing your blatant ignorance of the second law of thermo dynamics. I suggest you educate yourself on the matter, in fact I'll provide a very good link that debunks this tired and old claim (it's been done thousands of times before yet somehow creationists continue to spew this garbage)
There you go, enjoy: /watch?v=3gbi2qInNjg
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
what is ur educational background so we are on the same page...
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 Enough that I can spell your, entropy, and so on and so forth. I don't pretend to be a scientist though hoping that gives my baseless argument validity nor do I rely on my degree to give my argument weight, I rely on the evidence I provide and the logic I use to do so... unlike you sir.
I believe however we are done here as I presented you with evidence and you choose happily to ignore it making debating you rather pointless as you have shown yourself to be willfully ignorant.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
english isn't my first language but i speak 4 languages can u do that. and u haven't responded to my question what is ur educational background
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 Sure you can, and your a scientist right? Also apparently a clinical liar.
I haven't answered your question because your question is irrelevant, the only purpose of asking such a question is so you could use an ad hominem attack by swinging around your e-peen instead of addressing points made in the actual argument.
So no I will not entertain such a pointless request that's rather blatantly made as an excuse to not counter points and instead try to argue authority.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
it's because, u r talking rubbish non sense about second law of thermodynamics and open systems....so no u haven't made any argument all u r adoing is argument from assertions, and just appeal to authority except that authority isn't siding with u, u r making shit up
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 Right it's not as if I linked you to a detailed description or anything haha. I believe I'm done waisting time on ya, ta ta.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord Your educational background is irrelevant? The only people who say that are the ones who don't have one.
Shanbo26 3 weeks ago
@Shanbo26 Right because clearly the argument a person presented changes once you know their education right? Moron.
DarkBunnyLord 3 weeks ago
@Sam10947 Oh yeah, which four?
Shanbo26 3 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
so saying that beneficial mutuation led to this as random processes, that remains unverifiable and theoretically impossible if u know ur physics. So until they prove that randomness lead to order then we'll be on the same page, and lot of sceintists alos recognize this
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
i remeber u said something about my education background, are u inquiring or what...
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 (cont) as for the epidemic question no, if a person came in making such claims I'd test for the results. Now if the person making these claims was insane and their brain wasn't functioning properly then yes, I'd likely disbelieve the claims where accurate representations of what was really happening, this seems to be the key point you're happily blatantly ignoring.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
u'd make a test but it turned negative, it is a new epidemic, means there is a problem at hand...ignorring it isn't an ethical practice of a doctor. ppl are complaining u have to investigate, and take ppl described symptoms as they are.
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 And believing every hypochondriacs claim is not rational. The test IS investigating, if it comes up negative then nothing further can be done (besides different variants of tests) until noticeable symptoms can be detected.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 (cont) by fellow believers that would likely be happy to lie if it supported their God. The fact is there are many different people of many different religions that ALL claim to have had encounters with their deity or supernatural entities from their deity, they can't all be right and thus personal testimony like this is NOT reliable evidence.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
Which is a good point, "the fact that it is experienced by multitude of ppl from different backgournd", u seem to confuse attribution with the event. Of course ppl will try to attribute the event to whatever they hold dear to themselves or what ever they revear, but the patterns of this supernatural event remain identical to a large degree, and that u couldn't deny it let alone refute it
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 It doesn't matter, if the experiences all vary in background (ie angels, aliens, dead relatives, figures from a specific religion, etc) it does not confirm that there is anything supernatural but merely that a part of that persons mind (their belief) is manifested to their senses. Knowing again that your one recording device that governs all of your senses is spasmining, being flooded with endorphens and dying makes it a very unreliable source of evidence. Now don't mistake me (cont)
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@Sam10947 (cont) I'm not saying all of these experiences are false or lies, I'm saying that the evidence you're presenting is not convincing. Someone could tell me they saw a leprechaun and that these beings hide with magic, I couldn't refute the claim without having been there, but I can certainly justify disbelieving the claim as a hallucination or a lie do to the complete lack of reliable evidence presented.
DarkBunnyLord 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
oright now u've gone from no evidence to it's just not convincing...well yeah, so does 9/11 is not convincing to lot of ppl, that holocaust never happened...so where does that leave u. It pays to have an open mind, trust me...u have to inquire to reach ur own conclusion and if u seek and think critically u'll reach a conclusion that u wouldn't find the need to frequent these kind of videos, i do it because i like watching them, what's ur excuse
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
oright now u've gone from no evidence to it's just not convincing...well yeah, so does 9/11 is not convincing to lot of ppl, that holocaust never happened...so where does that leave u. It pays to have an open mind, trust me...u have to inquire to reach ur own conclusion and if u seek and think critically u'll reach a conclusion that u wouldn't find the need to frequent these kind of videos, i do it because i like watching them, what's ur excuse
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
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@DarkBunnyLord
oright now u've gone from no evidence to it's just not convincing...well yeah, so does 9/11 is not convincing to lot of ppl, that holocaust never happened...so where does that leave u. It pays to have an open mind, trust me...u have to inquire to reach ur own conclusion and if u seek and think critically u'll reach a conclusion that u wouldn't find the need to frequent these kind of videos, i do it because i like watching them, what's ur excuse
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
@DarkBunnyLord
oright now u've gone from no evidence to it's just not convincing...well yeah, so does 9/11 is not convincing to lot of ppl, that holocaust never happened...so where does that leave u. It pays to have an open mind, trust me...u have to inquire to reach ur own conclusion and if u seek and think critically u'll reach a conclusion that u wouldn't find the need to frequent these kind of videos, i do it because i like watching them, what's ur excuse
Sam10947 4 weeks ago
Hello Sir, I think your intentions are good sharing your message. I recently started researching NDE's and have drawn a conclusion that there is something after this which I was not sure of and that there is a God.
I now believe there is a Heaven & Hell and being a good person going to church is not enough to get you to heaven. It's all about love, caring for everyone and learning to be thankful to him he created us. I never talked like this even a week ago, but its like my eyes are open.
MrPilot921 2 months ago 4
@MrPilot921 Love is the answer, you are right. Don't worry about hell.
Lekatt1 2 months ago
@anderdorm I am confused with your question. What does that have to do with what I was talking about? Could you please elaborate? Thanks
icoltsi18 2 months ago
I, as an atheist, do have somewhere I can go to seek peace and shelter from life's problems and that place is the personal satisfaction and sense of accomplishment derived from motivating myself to action to solve the problems I'm capable of handling myself, and the love and support of my friends and family when things are outside of my ability to control and influence.
Snipe4261 2 months ago
@Snipe4261 I am happy for you.
Lekatt1 2 months ago
cool photo effect bro.
Haevenn 2 months ago
Hell does not exist! Man created Hell and the bible was written by Man not God. God is pure love, unconditional love and with that is unconditional forgiveness. The Light does not punish you. When you die you will have a life review but the review is a teaching for you (Soul) in the spirtual realm. Our teaching here on Earth is Love..Pure and Simple!
icoltsi18 2 months ago
@icoltsi18 yes, you got it right.
Lekatt1 2 months ago
@icoltsi18 I guess none of us will really know until we die. Makes me wonder anyway. Did you see what this guy has to say?
ATHEIST PROFESSOR IN HELL! Best testimony EVER! HELL NDE. Amazing! Howard Storm. TBN Interview 2010
Some food for thought. Later
muaythaiguy6669 2 months ago
@muaythaiguy6669 With all of the research I have done on NDE's I am not worried about dying at all. I am very grateful to have this life here on Earth and it is truly an awesome gift from the Light! I am very blessed. I have seen the video you mentioned Atheist Professor In Hell. Have you checked out iands.org Some great NDE accounts. Go to NDE Stories/Accounts and read "Understand the Gift to Enjoy the Treasure" and many other great stories. Great Video accounts as well.
icoltsi18 2 months ago
@icoltsi18 thanks for the heads up
muaythaiguy6669 2 months ago
DAMN I SHOULD HAVE NEVER TAKEN ACID!!! It was only 3 months ago and now look were my planet is headed. PLEASE HELP ME!!! I need to know what happens when we die, im really freaked out. do we enter a better world, cause this place sucks?
nickthegrizzly2 2 months ago
@nickthegrizzly2 You create your own world here with what you do.
Lekatt1 2 months ago 6
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gotracts 2 months ago
@gotracts I love Jesus and His teachings and try to follow them. I notice that you don't. Jesus said to judge not. love one another, return good for evil. forgive your enemies. to love God with all your heart and soul, to do good deeds, to go the second mile, but all I see from you is condemnation and judgements.
People who hold fear, teach fear, people who hold love, teach love. It is time for you to look at yourself and start loving what you see. You are not the judge of anyone.
Lekatt1 2 months ago
@Lekatt1 Jesus has taken and showed me heaven many times throughout my life! We're all sinners who must repent! Anyone who says they have no sin is calling God a liar! 1 John 1:8-10! I repent daily, and although He's taken me to heaven and I see Angels daily, I still beg God to have mercy on my soul! Let's focus on leading lost souls to Jesus Christ! Billions of people are on there way to hell daily! In the 1980's only 1000 out of a million people made it into heaven! Let's focus on the lost!
gotracts 2 months ago
@gotracts I seriously doubt what you say, but I know that fear can cause hallucinations. There is no eternal hell, it does not exist. A God of love does not send His children to hell. I had a near death experience and was there in His unconditional love and knowledge. You are only teaching religious doctrine and not facts. The Bible was the word of men and not God. No one is lost, God does not lose anyone, He is perfect and created us perfect in His image. I will pray you understand my words.
Lekatt1 2 months ago
@Lekatt1 I know you won't believe what I say either, that's okay i'm going to tell you anyway. I was an atheist. I didn't believe in any of this, God, Hell, Heaven, Angels or demons. God spoke to me and told me I was so wrong about all of that. The Bible is the Truth 100% The OT might talk about the grave but Jesus talked about an actual place of fire and and torment. If you don't believe in Hell than you don't believe in the same God the Bible speaks about. God is love but he is also Just!
babipassion25 2 months ago
@babipassion25 Christians are taught in the Bible that God is all knowing which I do not doubt. Hypothetical: God created your soul or a soul. God would already know at that time of creation whether or not that particular soul was comdemmed to Hell or going to heaven. Why would God create a soul if it was already determined at creation that the soul was going to Hell? God is pure love! Unconditional love and with that is unconditional forgiveness. There is no hell.
icoltsi18 2 months ago
@icoltsi18 You don't think there's a hell because you don't think or want there to be a hell. What you say or think or want doesn't matter. I was an atheist all of my life and had a serious experience with God and I tried to get into Christian Universalism(believe Jesus closed the gates to hell) and then into the book "Conversations with God"(no hell only God) Those books got destroyed and God talked to me again and told me all of those are wrong and the thing I dreaded(hell) is definitely real.
babipassion25 2 months ago
@babipassion25 So what you say or think or want does matter? The bible is not 100% truth. How could it be as the Bible is the word of man not God. You say the Bible is 100% truth but in fact you have nothing to back that up at all which is just religious doctrine and no fact. I know one thing that you have an awful fear and you should not fear God (The Light) as God is pure love. Its not that I want or don't want there to be a hell, I know there is no Hell. Hell is Man Made.
icoltsi18 2 months ago
@icoltsi18 What I say or think or want DOESN'T matter either. I didn't want there to be a hell. Who in their right mind wants there to be a hell? You don't know anything. You haven't died yet. You have NDE'S that are your evidence? Well what about the other half of people who have seen hell when they die? You just dismiss them because it's not what you want to hear? I was an atheist until I found out the truth by an actual experience not by being raised a Christian or being influenced by others.
babipassion25 2 months ago
@MrSlippin22 Jesus taught love not fear, take your fear teaching elsewhere. Nothing bad is going to happen to you, you are safe and secure in the embrace of God and so is everyone else. You are reading the words of man and not of God.
Lekatt1 3 months ago
if Jesus doesnt not save you , then it is eternal punishment away from our creators love in a place called hell
MrSlippin22 3 months ago
@MrSlippin22 Please don't spread your fear of God. God of unconditional love, and does not punish anyone for anything. The Bible you quote was written by men not God. God wrote His word on the hearts of mankind --Love.
Lekatt1 3 months ago
@MrSlippin22 Sorry I can't show your fear-filled videos. When you understand that God is love and preach that you won't know why.
Lekatt1 3 months ago
all others are his wrath because he wants to and he can
Romans 9: 10-21 Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God's purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls—she was told, "The older will serve the younger." Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated
MrSlippin22 3 months ago
Only one way to heaven and that is if God chooses you to the likeness of his son
Ephesians 1:5 God decided in advance to adopt us into his own family by bringing us to himself through Jesus Christ. This is what he wanted to do, and it gave him great pleasure.Ephesians 1:5 he predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will
MrSlippin22 3 months ago