scientists dont have a clue how everything was created, they may have their theories but theyre most likely wrong. in other solar systems there could be other intelegent life and they would have their own theories of how everything was created and only one can be right.
OMG that guy scared the living crap out of me omg im in he dark right in front of my computer. i see a nice pic than AS OUR GAS CLOUD. give us a warning lol.
p.s. im christian and im just sayin why are all the other Christians complaining its their religion let them be calm down go view a video on how GOD created the earth not to gas balls omg
Flying spagettii monster created everything just donate £100 to this church and he will give 1% to starving people. We will send you a free gun to kill none believers for this religion of peace.
@robert5032011 that does not qualify as material for a debate....God is all around you. You just choose to see him as a long hair hippie who liked to drink wine. But God is the mystery of the Universe. Fear evokes uncertain answers. Embrace it and you will see the truth.....
Apocryphon of John is the secret teachings of Jesus Christ and it tells what happened before the Big Bang There always was a heaven called Pleroma. Divine gods of perfect beings called Aeons. (Hitler) A Goddess named Sophia against the rules created an artisan called a yaldabaoth. (Gnosticism) names yaldabaoth Ahriman. He escapes from being a servant and steals a portion of her power. With the power creates an imitation parallel universe of Pleroma Unibooks.com “2012Secrets and the Mystery”
Religious people trying to produce God. Atheist trying to stop them. Both wasting their time. Do something productive with your miserable lives. Name one religious person who ever did something nice for someone without gain in mind; and name one atheist whos ever done anything nice at all. Assholes!
@KinaNafasi Atheists ARE doing something productive: clearing the planet of this scourge you call religion. Most Atheists have the entire human RACE in mind... not just those who believe and follow what THEY do. I would safely bet that on average an Atheist will be a nicer person to you than some religious nutbar, because they want you to ACCEPT JESUS!! Fuck you... fuck religion... fuck Jesus. Its all a big scam. The sooner you realize that, the better off you'll be.
@Goddard008 wow..if you're going to reply to something i post, please be considerate enough to do it in a timely manner. Dude that conversation was months old, Ive moved on, but my position hasn't changed. You were just hit in the face with truth that sent you into a typical atheistic mindless rage. If you hate Jesus and christians thats your problem..we dont hate you and the sooner you realize that the better off you'll be.
@RedRanger1138 where the hell did you hear that from!? "ACTUAL SCIENCE" has determined that the Earth is 4.6 billion years old using carbon dating, radio active decay, varve count and dendrology so your facts are horribley wrong
Should the Sun be called Sun anymore? Or should we call it a Star. For example, a sentence would go, "Our Star is among the smallest Stars in the Milky Way Galaxy"
It's OK to give it a name however as Children we were taught that its a Sun not a Star. Not only that, it confuses people when we call it a Sun in one sentence and a Star in another.
@heartlessvietboy Uh no... it only confuses idiots. They are all technically Stars. Sun is just the name we have given to our own, however over time the two words are being used more and more synonymously. They are synonyms like; big and large or bright and luminous. The reason they are taught as two different things to children is because the Sun (obviously) appears much different in the sky than the other stars. It stops the kids from being confused until they are old enough to understand it.
Earth moves about in space yet we dont know. We all picture it as spinning stationary. We need to stop the generic teaching of Astronomy and get real.
@RedRanger1138 that is sooooo wrong!! geology has proven the Earth to be 4.6 billion years old using carbon dating, radio active decay, varve count and dendrology so by default that statement is wrong , where the hell did you hear that from???
@SuperSweetpie21 Are you retarded? It's not even in question how the earth was created. It was made by accretion the same way that all other planets are made. The real question is how the universe was created. Now, scientists have the big bang but still no one knows how whatever exactly caused that was created either.
Does anyone even slightly believe that the Big Bang (which started our universe) could just be the output energy of a black hole? or something similar to a black hole? Because think of the huge amount of matter that goes into black holes and where does all the matter end up ? i think its logical to say that it is transfered into a parallel universe in the form of a big bang , or something similar.
How many galixies created this mass......thus 16 galaxies for the reson of the MAGEN DAVID STAR see my last video mrtacpans i have designed a star that recreates many things on earth.. Thus God did this
@RusikRusikRusik i completely agree with you. i have my opinion, you have yours, and i totally respect that. Now try to persuade every other person to feel the same way. Unfortunately, thats not the way the rest of the world works. Many people of all religions and beliefs feel the need to force their opinions and beliefs on other people because they think theyre right. Its the reason for almost all the death-causing wars in history.
@RusikRusikRusik We dont live in the Middle Ages anymore, an era of rampant superstition and ignorance, where women suspected to be witches were burned at the stake. This is the modern age, the age where we dont just believe everything we're told, where we actually seek to find the true answers through logic and rationality. That has always been human nature, the greatest thinkers in history always asked questions, never taken anything as undeniable fact, only ignorant people do that.
@RusikRusikRusik Cmon man just read my new book i wrote. i dont think the universe was made in 6 days or billions of years. i think it was made in 3 seconds when a giant spaghetti monster farted after eating lots of pasta. see how ridiculous that sounds? you cant just say something is true because its written down somewhere or because someone said its true
It's sad that there are alot of people who don't take interest in learning about the solar system or any other natural science. There's more to life than just sex,violence,drugs and ect. I think it's important to learn about the big picture so we can pass it on to our kids and their kids because this type of information could be crucial for them.
@TrollNumberOne i go to a catholic middle school, and im studying for the test with this video, even my teacher says this is most likely how the solor system is. Even my priest says so also. I think god created the universe, everything but this is how it was formed.
slowly contracts!? but.. e.. boy.. boyle's law!? decrease volume and increase pressure, what about gas pressure? gravity is extremely weak in respect to pressure, everybody knows that!
@rookerman2011 I love science, and support it completely. That's not what I was saying at all. I simply meant that to close your mind completely to one view (science or faith) limits your ability to understand things more.
Here is my theory on how we were made we are just rite in the middle of 2 very opposite planets and 1 is gassy "Venus" and 1 is Rocky "Mars" we are both combined and with added liquid making "Earth" Gas, solid and liquid are the 3 key elements then for us to see object there is light "Sun" i really believe "Jupiter" creates planets and when its finished its business making a new planet it eventually collapses and freezes like "Pluto" Venus will eventually fall into the Sun giving it a new life
The concept of God is for people who don't yet have the ability to look at things from several different perspectives. Allow your mind to expand by questioning everything thoroughly (even the existence of God).
@ruffy304 That's right, believing that a sky daddy created the solar system out of nothing is more credible than stupid science with its facts and evidence.
Big Bang? What exploded? Where did the matter come? Where did the space come from? Where did the energy come from? Where did all the organization come from? Where did all the information come from? By faith you would have to believe matter is eternal or it can create it self.Then this matter became alive, then this matter learned how to reproduce, then it learned how to reproduce something other than its kind. We have never observed any of those things so you must believe it by faith.
@BullShitAllOfIt so you are saying everything we dotn know is god-made?
Science just dont know what triggered the big bang, but it doesnt mean we cannot explain it eventually. Science have proven the world around us. Seems that the Earth is still flat if "We have never observed any of those things so you must believe it by faith"
Believe in science. stop being ignorant about the world
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
When we look into the sky at night and see millions of stars ... And each star like our own has a solar system consisting of a variety of planets.. Does that not mean that there's a very likely probability that there are other lifeforms like us or even more advanced lifeforms out there?? Is it possible that they could be travelling space at this very moment visiting other star systems? Please help me out!
This sounds like a reasonable explanation, but it does not explain the differences in size of various stars because I interpret this video as saying - once enough hydrogen has contracted to the center, the nuclear process starts and all other hydrogen in the region gets blown away by the solar wind and the hydrogen only accumulates again when its far away from the star - like Jupiter and the other gas giants. Maybe the initail speed of rotation determines this.
The laws of thermodynamics prevent this,you can't create matter in this universe which the first law states. The second law states that everything tends to disorder nothing gets better but itself. Now if you want to believe that our universe came in the process in the vid have fun but that's against science.
@TheChaosthegreat I think you should actually learn thermodynamics before you erroneousness quote the laws. Read a text book, or better yet get a university education in chemistry or physics, (or applied chemistry or applied physics).
You have absolutely no understanding of the first and second laws. You do not understand entropy, so don't get all high and mighty and talk about it like you have a clue. Calling entropy "disorder" is a gross oversimplification. Entropy can quantify "disorder," but you don't have a concept of what we mean by "disorder" when we use that word to describe entropy.
If a process has negative entropy in an open system, it must be coupled with positive entropy processes.
so is this fact or theory? because i wached a video explaining how this wasnt the way the solar system was born. i am new to all this stuff and really dont know who to believe, i dont wanna start learning stuff that isnt true
This is extremely stupid. I mean how does he know this. Chaos don't create order,and this goes against the second law of thermodynamics which is everything tends towards disorder or chaos. Chaos can't create order that goes against science.
@ns12123 i am not sure its a hyhpothese but i think cous of the magma and swavel(even tough it is not baby creating) also what would it look like if u nuke(with a normal atom bomb) the sun? would it just asorb it? if so hail bombs
The gas cloud so never was in an orbit around the barycenter of our milkyway, therefore this dusty cloud bringing birth to the sisters ond brothers of sun, had no angular momentum! Then suddenly, by a momentum this changed?
@MultiPineapple100 most of it is hydrogen gas that formed when energy condensed into hydrogen atoms early in the history of the universe, a few hundred million years after the big bang, but molecular clouds also contain heavier elements like carbon, silicon, iron, etc. These elements were cooked in the interior of hot massive stars that exploded in supernovas. hundreds of thousands of stars died and sprinkled their guts into molecular clouds.
OK LISTEN UP: According to the Bible, Earth was created BEFORE the Stars. AND according to reality, this can NEVER happen.
For a planet to be formed, A STAR MUST be present! So the Bible is truly NOT the word of God. I mean, how can GOD make mistakes in his "great" book to the humanity?
On the other hand, the Quran states differently..and more correctly
Hehe. So you can not understand the metaphorical meaning of lamps?
The Quran also states the iron was sent down on earth, meaning iron that is created in the nucleus of a big star was was sent down on earth and man has many uses of it.
@Leon2101 Why then doesn't the quran say that the sun is a very big huge lamp close to us. Instead it makes no mention of the fact that the sun is a star, and that a star is a sun. they are the same thing.
Hahaha! Are you feeling ok man? You clearly need a lesson in both astronomy and religion.
You say, Sun and a star is the same thing. NOT TRUE BUDDY! Sun is only the name of OUR STAR, in our solar system. There are 200 billion other stars in only our milky way galaxy,do you think they all are called SUN??
Allah or God couldn't just give us numerous details about a star in year 600, people wouldn't understand a thing because of the extremely limited knowledge at that time.
A centauri is another star closet to our solar system. Name is different, yet it is a star.
Anyways, what I mentioned about limited knowledge at that time when Quran was recited, that is the answer of your question. So on the other hand, people COULD understand the meaning of a lamp, an object that produce light and lights up the darkness. Same meaning.
If God started explaining everything in great detail, that would at least 10 more holy books like Quran to explain everthing.
@Leon2101 my point to all of this is not if the quran is right or wrong, but I want to know how you are so sure that the quran is correct, do you know that this book is one of many religious books around the world?. You know the Maya had a book called the popol vuh, which is more scientifically accurate than the quran, the bible, or any other book today. Their calendar is actually more accurate than the one we use today. Religions have had thousands of years to prove their point and have failed.
Islam or Quran has not failed. It is the worlds fastest growing religion. And trust me, there is a very good reason for why people are using reason and logic and converting to Islam.
I'm a student and I always want to learn more and change after correct knowledge. If you can tell me ANYTHING that Islam has failed with, I would listen to you.
Quran is not a book of science, but it is a book of SIGNS! Signs to the whole humanity.
scientist have already managed to recreate nuclear fusion (at a very small scale, but they did nonetheless) And its just pressure and heat. And gravity causes that conditions to exist. Just pump alot of hydrogen in it and you have a star. The other elements while form terrestrial planets in a accretion disk which contains water, iron, rock all over the disk which forms planets by colliding on each other.
Thats why water must be everywhere and not just on earth or in the solar system.
secondly i dont seem to understand the big mystery of stars getting born. Theres a huge nebulae of gas (with matter) which was once a byproduct of a died star and gravity the working force in our universe caused all that gas (mostly hydrogen) to collapse onto itself until the pressure and heat at the core of the gas cloud got hot enough for nuclear fusion. Tada, you have a star, wat a mystery. And people still talking about god. What mroe is there to be discovered about this phenomenon.
The closest born star out of that 31000 stars per day might be born at a place weve never looked before even if it is closest to home.
Secondly we can only look in specific places in the milkyway, 95% of the milkyway (apart from some nice panorama hubble picture) has never been photographed into the detail that allowed us to see a born star, and looking for new stars in other galaxies is so science fictional. Only hubble can get clear images of other galaxies.
"Gas pressure is much stronger than gravity..so gravitational forces could not overcome gas pressures."
'o_O'
That doesn't make any sense. The sun itself is a fluid; composed mainly of hydrogen gas. It's also very VERY hot. If what you're saying were true, the sun should fly apart. Also note that the gravitational force is considered to be weaker than the nuclear force, but that doesn't mean the forces can't exist in equilibrium.
It's not that religious people fear or distrust science, I'm sure most humans do innately believe that the universe is a complex system, BUT it is the fact that science turns humans into fairly insignificant beings in the gigantic scope of space and time. To them, it means humans are not special and no divine being takes an interest in their sad little lives. This is certainly very disheartening to someone who needs a spiritual being to believe IN THEM as much as they believe IN IT.
@fluidicmethod I am religious people-- Heavens just show the Glory of God- they sing of it, I think God is farmore powerful than we could have ever imagined, We think we know something? I think it is very little we know, or almost nothing, what wonders are hiden in God's creation. When we see huge God's creation, we start to see how bigger our God is than we are.
Here we go again. Some Intellectual who claims that God doesn't exist because he only looks at one side of the coin. Please tell me where atoms, the four forces of nature and all the laws of physics came from? How come our Sun is the perfect age, size and distance from the earth. How come earth's size and gravity are perfectly tuned for life to exist. Who, or what, programmed the DNA for all the various life forms we have on the planet? Oh! Yeah! It all happened by chance.
2.It doens't have to. Our live could begin in anoather galaxy. There are great possiblilities of the aproxomite range (not to hot, not too cold), so H2O could form. Actually, this means that in the universe, there might be more life, even inteligent one.
3. Look at the answer above.
4. Chemical reactions in the water programmed and created first life: One-celled organisms.
@crazyhiho how do you know there arent other life forms? i mean there are billions of stars in our galaxy and so far humans have just barely left our solar system.. we have no proof that there aren't life forms in our galaxy .. hell if could be like fucking star wars in our galaxy but you cant prove it is or isnt .. so dont deny something you dont know
@dozerislife uhm okay? i think you are replying to the wrong person because i agree with everything you said.
i was trying to explain to 'wenlinkel', who is clearly a religious goon, that this little "humans couldnt have started randomly because the chances of that happening are 1 in 500 billion" makes sense, seeing as humans have not discovered other life YET and no other life has made there presence known to us.
im not denying anything LOL i know i dont know, its all THEORY.
Or like Star Trek (which sounds better since it's a space odyssey that takes place in our galaxy but in the future where we humans are finally exploring the deep ocean of space.) :)
"Space... the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its continuing mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has gone before."
If you believe the Big Bang, you are insane. If you believe the Earth was created 10,000 years ago, you're a nut. If you know that chaos cannot bread order, you have common sense and probably believe in God or a Supreme Power or Being - the Infinite version of yourself.
@parkerjwill "If you know that chaos cannot bread order" - well there seem to be order, cos one reaction is usually followed by another one, which can be predicted fairly accurate. This chaos you are referring to, what is it? What are the components and reactions of things which can't be predicted? "believe the Big Bang, you are insane" do you belief that our universe is expanding in all directions? If yes, then this expanding must have happend from somewhere. So not insane, just uncertain
@BjornSeverinLarsen What creates a novel, a pen and paper? No, an author. Can a sand castle form without a sculptor? Whatever is created must come from a source able to create it. What are you? A chance combination of material elements?
The majority of scientists are wrong and have no clue how the planets let alone the universe were created. It's actually pretty funny seeing how smart they think they are when a child can understand their theories are unbelievable.
@parkerjwill Well that's just it. The universe and the way it works doesn't need a creator, all it need is matter and energy - so if a novel could be created without an author, then that would make sense. The universe needs no author, for it to make sense - it makes less sense that there should be an author of the universe. "when a child can understand their theories are unbelievable" what is unbelievable? So if children doesn't believe it, it can't be true? Pride of ignorance.. nice
@BjornSeverinLarsen OK. You believe what you will. And I'll do the same. This is a pointless discussion because you already know how the universe was created, with matter and energy of course! Try an experiment and see what you get: gather a pile of dirt, wood, and whatever other form of generally inert matter you can find, add some energy in the form of gasoline, and light it on fire and see what you get. More order? Or less order?
If you still disagree, then let's just agree to disagree.
@parkerjwill No i don't know how the universe was created, but i don't think it was from an author creating the world in 6 days. I don't know if it is a big bang or membranes of existences rubbing against eachother. I don't know i the universe is infite or if it is finite. But we will never find out if we don't look, and we take peoples word for that it is rediculous to look.
@parkerjwill 2nd part So gasoline, dirt and wood is consistent with what theory of creation? How about try and see if you can create a singularity with all the matter and energy in the universe? Since that is the theory of the big bang, why would i take gasoline, dirt and wood? This order you are talking about, what is it exactly you mean? What is order when talking about the universe? I could proberbly calculate how far the wood would fly if i blew up the gasoline = order or??
@BjornSeverinLarsen I don't even know where to begin with you. You seem to be reading too many Scientific American magazines or watching the Science Channel a bit too much. First, you should learn how to create a complete sentence.
I believe the world was created in 6 days? It really is pointless to discuss these matters with persons such as yourself. Why? Because you can't think for yourself. You let so-called scientists do the thinking for you - you're schooled, trained and controlled.
@parkerjwill I have no idea if you believe that the world was created in 6 days. It was an eksample. But you still have not answered what this order and disorder is, that you keep talking about. Yes my sentence structure is not particularly good, cos my language is not english. And no i don't read those journals, but i do have a belief in science, but it's based on the scientific method, and the ontological theories behind it. I would like to hear you're reasoning for you're methodology
@BjornSeverinLarsen Please accept my apologies about language. Regarding order and chaos. If you have a system which exhibits order, like a solar system, that order cannot come out of chaos. That is backwards. So there must be a source of order capable of creating systems like a our solar system.
It is faulty thinking to believe that something can come from nothing. You have to ignore your own reality as a conscious living being to think this way. Do you understand?
@parkerjwill I do understand the premis, that something cannot come from nothing. However i do fail to understand how order is something and chaos is nothing. What is the chaos you are referring to with the birth of our solarsystem? The source of order, which was allso there at the birth of the solarsystem, was gravity. Destruction does not equal chaos. As far as i understand the theory about the solarsystem's creation then it was all about matter and pressure = gravity, which i find orderly
@BjornSeverinLarsen You have to use inductive logic. You must place reality within you, within your own personal experience. In that state of mind, where common sense resides, you can see things as they are. The Big Bang rests on fantastic mathematical acrobatics, NOT observation. How could it?
Why can't you grasp this idea of order? It's simple. How is a car made? Well, its creation starts where? In the mind of an engineer. What is an engineer? A conscious living entity with intelligence.
@parkerjwill Well i don't fancy the big bang theory much anyway. Should be the theory of the expanding universe, which is the only thing we have sufficient evidence for. The rest is guesswork, educated guesses, but guesses nontheless. However to understand scientific knowledge, it is important, not to use common sense. This is why philosophy and natural science differs. Natural science needs to show collaborated evidence, from many sources, untill it can say to be a welltested theory. continued
@parkerjwill 2nd part "The big bang rests on fantastical mathematical..." well yes the initial blast claculation etc does. However it is basicly a reverse of what we see today, where the galaxies move away from eachother, those furthest away, with grander speed etc. So rewind it backwards, and what do we find.. everything came from one point. But as i said in my first comment, the bang part doesn't carry alot of evidence. It is all based on our expanding universe. To be continued
@parkerjwill 3rd part Your concept of order, i would guess is based on someone making stuff, as of your car analogy. But i still do not see the chaos in the birth of our solarsystem. The universe had allrdy existed some billion years when our sun formed. So its not the big bang im talking about, but the birth of our star. Allso how can the big bang be considered chaos? Those who hypothesis on the area, can show some orderly, though violent, mechanisms. You have to show me the order and chaos
@BjornSeverinLarsen There's one HUGE difference between you and I; you rely solely on speculation whereas I rely solely on transcendental knowledge. That is a whole other subject.
You have to give up speculation altogether. As for your loyalty to Hubble and redshift, watch this video: The Electric Universe by shrunkensimon
Let's carry any further discussion there, at The Electric Universe.
Can anyone tell me what happens to a gas when it gets heated up? It creates pressure to equalize because of the laws of thermodynamics. Gas pressure is much stronger than gravity..so gravitational forces could not overcome gas pressures. The truth is that they do not know how stars were formed by natural means. The Nebula model would have to break the 2nd law of thermodynamics. The 2nd law of thermodynamics cannot be broken. Therefore the nebula model is not true.
@rehzon your kidding about stars not forming in nebulas,right? Have you learned astronomy physics? There is a lot of BS in the mainstream science,but that is not one of them. If your opinion is formulated by the Electrical Universe,you must understand that both models need to be unified.
Go further with this hypothetical story and you find that the laws of this theory are broken by every single planet and several moons in our solar system. Just some examples...Jupiter spins too fast, the moon is too close to the earth, Pluto is impossible, Uranus spins on its side..this goes on and on. Watch "Our Solar System: evidence of a creator" on here and you will see all of the problems with this theory.
Of course the BB-theory is not yet complete, which is simply because it takes a lot of time to develop the technical equipment necessary for research. Let´s talk again in 100 years :)
You are so busy fighting the BB-Theory that you don´t even notice that the "creation" theory is not even half as holeproof :)
You actually believe the crap they put out? Dude, they are fundamentalists. Nebula theory makes testable predictions and is the only model that fits our observations. None of the things you list falsify Nebula theory. You have to be delusional to think that someone ('god")actually constructed the solar system with all the random asteroids, moons, planets, and comets. If it were created, there would be ONE planet EARTH. There wouldn't planets floating around for no reason.
@YourGodAnswersToMe the nebula theory was debunked 200 years ago and has reappeared because no other naturalistic model fits as well. Everything that I stated shows flaws in the nebula model. I can name several more. But the fact of the matter is that to believe in the Nebula model is to have a faith in it. It is no more proveable than God created everything. The honorable thing to do is to admit it is a faith...I can do that for my belief system.
God creates comets, asteroids, meteorites, and random planets with moons orbiting them for his glory?
hahahhaha, you moron.
"It creates pressure to equalize because of the laws of thermodynamics. "
"It creates pressure to equalize because of the laws of thermodynamics. "
Provide a calculation for your assertions; and post it in the physics forums (use google to find the forums) so you can type the equations using latex. Let's see if you're correct.
@YourGodAnswersToMe If they are intellectually honest they will admit that their Nebula model is never been observed and it has several issues that cannot be predicted or answered. According to the time frame and the amount of stars that there are there should be over 31,000 stars formed every day...yet we have never seen one created...why? Shall I address that question to the physics forum?
"According to the time frame and the amount of stars that there are there should be over 31,000 stars formed every day...yet we have never seen one created...why"
31,000 where? Just anywhere in the universe? Individual stars in other galaxies would be difficult to observe. A star like our sun would be an invisible microscopic spec of dust hidden deep inside the milky way, you'd never find it. We can only directly observe protoplanetary systems in nearby nebula, like the Orion.
Only 31.000? no wonder you dont observe them. There are a few hundred billions galaxies discovered (i said DISCOVERED, so there probably 1000times more) of which each contain hundred billions of stars, hundred billion times hundred billions in comparison to a count of 31000 is like finding the queen ant out of millions. 31.000 is a large number, but its a single atom to the amount of atoms in a human body that you try to discover wether it is 31000 every day.
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
In other words he made all for His glory. Think about what is more rediculous...God created the universe or the universe came from nothing. Another fact of the cosmos is that the nebula model predicts there is no center of the universe...least of all not earth. But our measurements place us within reasonable range of the center if not the center of the universe.
Is it just me..or does the law of conservation of energy make no sense?!?! It makes sense if u apply it on earth but if u apply it to the origin of the universe on the whole it makes no sense. Sadly most of science is based under the assumption of this law. Maybe there is a god. Think about it...
lmfao 00:19
kickyourbooty1 3 weeks ago
Thanks for the video! =D
anton300640 1 month ago
scientists dont have a clue how everything was created, they may have their theories but theyre most likely wrong. in other solar systems there could be other intelegent life and they would have their own theories of how everything was created and only one can be right.
Karpetburnz 2 months ago
Hes got some nice balls... LOL
mcrib10 3 months ago 9
OMG that guy scared the living crap out of me omg im in he dark right in front of my computer. i see a nice pic than AS OUR GAS CLOUD. give us a warning lol.
p.s. im christian and im just sayin why are all the other Christians complaining its their religion let them be calm down go view a video on how GOD created the earth not to gas balls omg
kplogan4 3 months ago
@Goddard008 Why would we be scamming you? What would be the point? Jesus loves you
MrHotshot1018 3 months ago
Bastartd
JLS2505 3 months ago
Drag on ball'z
xcythehollow1 3 months ago
this is not a laugh i hate faggots who come on this just to make stupid comments!
yazmin584 4 months ago
Interesante!
jennifer3summer 4 months ago
Flying spagettii monster created everything just donate £100 to this church and he will give 1% to starving people. We will send you a free gun to kill none believers for this religion of peace.
NielsShoe 4 months ago
That guy reminds me of Richard Kind, one of the patients from Scrubs...
Nervousification 5 months ago
God how I love this stuff :O
Bummul 5 months ago in playlist Astronomical Phenomena
jesus created everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!
robert5032011 5 months ago
@robert5032011 that does not qualify as material for a debate....God is all around you. You just choose to see him as a long hair hippie who liked to drink wine. But God is the mystery of the Universe. Fear evokes uncertain answers. Embrace it and you will see the truth.....
skatevegan23 5 months ago
Apocryphon of John is the secret teachings of Jesus Christ and it tells what happened before the Big Bang There always was a heaven called Pleroma. Divine gods of perfect beings called Aeons. (Hitler) A Goddess named Sophia against the rules created an artisan called a yaldabaoth. (Gnosticism) names yaldabaoth Ahriman. He escapes from being a servant and steals a portion of her power. With the power creates an imitation parallel universe of Pleroma Unibooks.com “2012Secrets and the Mystery”
SethJesusSatan 5 months ago
Religious people trying to produce God. Atheist trying to stop them. Both wasting their time. Do something productive with your miserable lives. Name one religious person who ever did something nice for someone without gain in mind; and name one atheist whos ever done anything nice at all. Assholes!
KinaNafasi 7 months ago
@KinaNafasi Richard dawkins founding multiple humanism organizations and charities
I've volunteered to build homes for the homeless and I'm an atheist
3200manpro 6 months ago 10
@3200manpro well God bless you i suppose (humor me) but now Im not even sure what i was upset about. lol
KinaNafasi 6 months ago
@KinaNafasi Atheists ARE doing something productive: clearing the planet of this scourge you call religion. Most Atheists have the entire human RACE in mind... not just those who believe and follow what THEY do. I would safely bet that on average an Atheist will be a nicer person to you than some religious nutbar, because they want you to ACCEPT JESUS!! Fuck you... fuck religion... fuck Jesus. Its all a big scam. The sooner you realize that, the better off you'll be.
Goddard008 4 months ago
@Goddard008 wow..if you're going to reply to something i post, please be considerate enough to do it in a timely manner. Dude that conversation was months old, Ive moved on, but my position hasn't changed. You were just hit in the face with truth that sent you into a typical atheistic mindless rage. If you hate Jesus and christians thats your problem..we dont hate you and the sooner you realize that the better off you'll be.
KinaNafasi 4 months ago
another thing the universe is not billions of years old. Acutal science places the universe at 20,000 to 10,000 years old
RedRanger1138 7 months ago
@RedRanger1138 where the hell did you hear that from!? "ACTUAL SCIENCE" has determined that the Earth is 4.6 billion years old using carbon dating, radio active decay, varve count and dendrology so your facts are horribley wrong
canadiancomet 7 months ago
Should the Sun be called Sun anymore? Or should we call it a Star. For example, a sentence would go, "Our Star is among the smallest Stars in the Milky Way Galaxy"
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy well i guess universally it's a star but might as well as give it a name since it lives next to us so lets call it the sun
gears6515 5 months ago
It's OK to give it a name however as Children we were taught that its a Sun not a Star. Not only that, it confuses people when we call it a Sun in one sentence and a Star in another.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy Uh no... it only confuses idiots. They are all technically Stars. Sun is just the name we have given to our own, however over time the two words are being used more and more synonymously. They are synonyms like; big and large or bright and luminous. The reason they are taught as two different things to children is because the Sun (obviously) appears much different in the sky than the other stars. It stops the kids from being confused until they are old enough to understand it.
Goddard008 4 months ago
Earth moves about in space yet we dont know. We all picture it as spinning stationary. We need to stop the generic teaching of Astronomy and get real.
heartlessvietboy 4 months ago
@RedRanger1138 that is sooooo wrong!! geology has proven the Earth to be 4.6 billion years old using carbon dating, radio active decay, varve count and dendrology so by default that statement is wrong , where the hell did you hear that from???
canadiancomet 7 months ago
All mighty God
yazmin584 7 months ago
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martingar68 7 months ago
not true god created the earth ok some science is all fake ok or almost everything ok did you see no but the bible says it god created everything ok
SuperSweetpie21 8 months ago
@SuperSweetpie21 yes i am with you
gamemaker1234 3 months ago
@SuperSweetpie21 Are you retarded? It's not even in question how the earth was created. It was made by accretion the same way that all other planets are made. The real question is how the universe was created. Now, scientists have the big bang but still no one knows how whatever exactly caused that was created either.
mcrib10 3 months ago
nice bawlzz
xxth3chronicxx 8 months ago
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Does anyone even slightly believe that the Big Bang (which started our universe) could just be the output energy of a black hole? or something similar to a black hole? Because think of the huge amount of matter that goes into black holes and where does all the matter end up ? i think its logical to say that it is transfered into a parallel universe in the form of a big bang , or something similar.
love2punk 8 months ago
Knew this before you bitch
MegaAkram12345 8 months ago
How many galixies created this mass......thus 16 galaxies for the reson of the MAGEN DAVID STAR see my last video mrtacpans i have designed a star that recreates many things on earth.. Thus God did this
MrTacpans 8 months ago
lol i like your comment 19carloscruz
babescarlet11 8 months ago
lol
babescarlet11 8 months ago
he likes his balls XD
19carloscruz 9 months ago
@RusikRusikRusik i completely agree with you. i have my opinion, you have yours, and i totally respect that. Now try to persuade every other person to feel the same way. Unfortunately, thats not the way the rest of the world works. Many people of all religions and beliefs feel the need to force their opinions and beliefs on other people because they think theyre right. Its the reason for almost all the death-causing wars in history.
carlsm95 9 months ago
@RusikRusikRusik We dont live in the Middle Ages anymore, an era of rampant superstition and ignorance, where women suspected to be witches were burned at the stake. This is the modern age, the age where we dont just believe everything we're told, where we actually seek to find the true answers through logic and rationality. That has always been human nature, the greatest thinkers in history always asked questions, never taken anything as undeniable fact, only ignorant people do that.
carlsm95 9 months ago
@RusikRusikRusik Cmon man just read my new book i wrote. i dont think the universe was made in 6 days or billions of years. i think it was made in 3 seconds when a giant spaghetti monster farted after eating lots of pasta. see how ridiculous that sounds? you cant just say something is true because its written down somewhere or because someone said its true
carlsm95 9 months ago
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It's sad that there are alot of people who don't take interest in learning about the solar system or any other natural science. There's more to life than just sex,violence,drugs and ect. I think it's important to learn about the big picture so we can pass it on to our kids and their kids because this type of information could be crucial for them.
devilsandqueens 10 months ago
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devilsandqueens 10 months ago
GOD CREATED OUR SOLAR SYSTEM! YOU 'EXPERTS' ARE ALL WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!
TrollNumberOne 10 months ago
@TrollNumberOne that's how god created the universe :)
TheOthuyeg 10 months ago
@TrollNumberOne i go to a catholic middle school, and im studying for the test with this video, even my teacher says this is most likely how the solor system is. Even my priest says so also. I think god created the universe, everything but this is how it was formed.
SpiderCheese101 10 months ago
I wanna know HOW it was created. like how everything started lmfao, space. ya know what i mean?
Bulgariangirl96 10 months ago
Wow... mass is cool lol
Slugg329 10 months ago
slowly contracts!? but.. e.. boy.. boyle's law!? decrease volume and increase pressure, what about gas pressure? gravity is extremely weak in respect to pressure, everybody knows that!
IloveYOUviruses 10 months ago
@IloveYOUviruses Ya i wish he would have explained how the nebula overcame boyle's law... it did somehow
carlsm95 10 months ago
@rookerman2011 This is very unhelpful.
KaylaKay1213 11 months ago
@rookerman2011 I love science, and support it completely. That's not what I was saying at all. I simply meant that to close your mind completely to one view (science or faith) limits your ability to understand things more.
KaylaKay1213 11 months ago
@rookerman2011 How is it dumb to be open-minded? I'm dumb because I question things? I'm dumb because I'm skeptical?
KaylaKay1213 11 months ago
Here is my theory on how we were made we are just rite in the middle of 2 very opposite planets and 1 is gassy "Venus" and 1 is Rocky "Mars" we are both combined and with added liquid making "Earth" Gas, solid and liquid are the 3 key elements then for us to see object there is light "Sun" i really believe "Jupiter" creates planets and when its finished its business making a new planet it eventually collapses and freezes like "Pluto" Venus will eventually fall into the Sun giving it a new life
mw2cod4blackops 11 months ago
The concept of God is for people who don't yet have the ability to look at things from several different perspectives. Allow your mind to expand by questioning everything thoroughly (even the existence of God).
KaylaKay1213 11 months ago
@KaylaKay1213 that's funny, i think the same thing about people who only believe in science.
FATRgames 11 months ago
@FATRgames Yes, I agree that people who only believe in science are just as narrow-minded as people who only believe in God.
KaylaKay1213 11 months ago
Bull shit
ruffy304 11 months ago
@ruffy304 That's right, believing that a sky daddy created the solar system out of nothing is more credible than stupid science with its facts and evidence.
xllGustavollx 11 months ago
WHOA i like the spinning part. damn awesome
mdluqmanhakim 1 year ago
Big Bang? What exploded? Where did the matter come? Where did the space come from? Where did the energy come from? Where did all the organization come from? Where did all the information come from? By faith you would have to believe matter is eternal or it can create it self.Then this matter became alive, then this matter learned how to reproduce, then it learned how to reproduce something other than its kind. We have never observed any of those things so you must believe it by faith.
BullShitAllOfIt 1 year ago
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@BullShitAllOfIt so you are saying everything we dotn know is god-made?
Science just dont know what triggered the big bang, but it doesnt mean we cannot explain it eventually. Science have proven the world around us. Seems that the Earth is still flat if "We have never observed any of those things so you must believe it by faith"
Believe in science. stop being ignorant about the world
chunyat1995 11 months ago
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Genesis 1:1-5 (King James Version)
coolvideo28 1 year ago
@coolvideo28 that would be the outdated child version of it yes.
crazyhiho 1 year ago
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Have not those who disbelieved known that the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, then We separated them?... (Quran, 21:30
hich101 1 year ago
Then He turned to the heaven when it was smoke... (Quran, 41:11)
hich101 1 year ago
"I am holding my balls straight out." Wow, ain't that a talent!
DeadsodieDK 1 year ago
i was watching videos about beards and i ended up here ;)
42rings 1 year ago
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42rings 1 year ago
God created everything!
KISSMEMYFOOL69 1 year ago
@KISSMEMYFOOL69
The one that doesn't exist?
Open your eyes!
Bible is nothing but an old fairy tale!
ingarsss 1 year ago
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why didnt they mention god in there? :,(
monsta123x 1 year ago
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monsta123x 1 year ago
When we look into the sky at night and see millions of stars ... And each star like our own has a solar system consisting of a variety of planets.. Does that not mean that there's a very likely probability that there are other lifeforms like us or even more advanced lifeforms out there?? Is it possible that they could be travelling space at this very moment visiting other star systems? Please help me out!
thebientoten 1 year ago
@thebientoten well thats correct ............
i want to no it toooooooo....
iamtheone51096 1 year ago
This sounds like a reasonable explanation, but it does not explain the differences in size of various stars because I interpret this video as saying - once enough hydrogen has contracted to the center, the nuclear process starts and all other hydrogen in the region gets blown away by the solar wind and the hydrogen only accumulates again when its far away from the star - like Jupiter and the other gas giants. Maybe the initail speed of rotation determines this.
oomblikkies 1 year ago
Did he say "Speeded Up?" Seriously?
TwiztedAnimator 1 year ago
lol hes holding 2 balls xD
Robert602Phx 1 year ago 20
The laws of thermodynamics prevent this,you can't create matter in this universe which the first law states. The second law states that everything tends to disorder nothing gets better but itself. Now if you want to believe that our universe came in the process in the vid have fun but that's against science.
TheChaosthegreat 1 year ago
@TheChaosthegreat I think you should actually learn thermodynamics before you erroneousness quote the laws. Read a text book, or better yet get a university education in chemistry or physics, (or applied chemistry or applied physics).
binaryblade2 1 year ago
@TheChaosthegreat
You have absolutely no understanding of the first and second laws. You do not understand entropy, so don't get all high and mighty and talk about it like you have a clue. Calling entropy "disorder" is a gross oversimplification. Entropy can quantify "disorder," but you don't have a concept of what we mean by "disorder" when we use that word to describe entropy.
If a process has negative entropy in an open system, it must be coupled with positive entropy processes.
supowit 1 year ago
so is this fact or theory? because i wached a video explaining how this wasnt the way the solar system was born. i am new to all this stuff and really dont know who to believe, i dont wanna start learning stuff that isnt true
eternalrestfoReVer 1 year ago
This is extremely stupid. I mean how does he know this. Chaos don't create order,and this goes against the second law of thermodynamics which is everything tends towards disorder or chaos. Chaos can't create order that goes against science.
TheChaosthegreat 1 year ago
but how where cells created?
vampirekoopa 1 year ago
@vampirekoopa i mean how was the gas created that created the cells inside the meteor
vampirekoopa 1 year ago
@vampirekoopa You're in error by asking on youtube. Go ask a professional.
ns12123 1 year ago
@ns12123 i am not sure its a hyhpothese but i think cous of the magma and swavel(even tough it is not baby creating) also what would it look like if u nuke(with a normal atom bomb) the sun? would it just asorb it? if so hail bombs
vampirekoopa 1 year ago
@ns12123 i mean sulfur(u are pro for giving me advise lawl)
vampirekoopa 1 year ago
@vampirekoopa if you are so keen on learning something about science youtube isnt the best place for that. pick up a book and read ;)
megaporkchop 1 year ago
1:20
"speeded up"
stoddcrew 1 year ago 18
@stoddcrew lol
MultiLegopeople 10 months ago
oke u zealoths the solar systym is created by balls i mean momentum
vampirekoopa 1 year ago
weak shit hole satan who has to use others ,because mr satan is a faggot with no balls,although he hides as being baal.
mickwillie1 1 year ago
im not believing it because god say he created heavens and the earth but god did not say about this thing how he makes the solar system...
gracedalanta 1 year ago
@gracedalanta god doesent exist,grow up.. have you ever met him? nope
TheWoWBane 1 year ago
@TheWoWBane are you stupid????you didnt know god??? in your life????heler...
gracedalanta 1 year ago
Rotation speeded up?
The gas cloud so never was in an orbit around the barycenter of our milkyway, therefore this dusty cloud bringing birth to the sisters ond brothers of sun, had no angular momentum! Then suddenly, by a momentum this changed?
The1976spirit 1 year ago
where did the molecular cloud come from? lulz
MultiPineapple100 1 year ago
@MultiPineapple100 most of it is hydrogen gas that formed when energy condensed into hydrogen atoms early in the history of the universe, a few hundred million years after the big bang, but molecular clouds also contain heavier elements like carbon, silicon, iron, etc. These elements were cooked in the interior of hot massive stars that exploded in supernovas. hundreds of thousands of stars died and sprinkled their guts into molecular clouds.
bombarderoazul 1 year ago
@MultiPineapple100 that thing is god
vampirekoopa 1 year ago
@MultiPineapple100 a nebula
kyleisreallycool 1 year ago
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This is not science.
dmh497 1 year ago
Whoa, this is so much different from the Genesis story in the bible.
bombarderoazul 1 year ago
y is it i always see religion conversations on a space video???
northsidemarine 1 year ago
OK LISTEN UP: According to the Bible, Earth was created BEFORE the Stars. AND according to reality, this can NEVER happen.
For a planet to be formed, A STAR MUST be present! So the Bible is truly NOT the word of God. I mean, how can GOD make mistakes in his "great" book to the humanity?
On the other hand, the Quran states differently..and more correctly
Leon2101 1 year ago
@Leon2101 The quran refers to stars as lamps.
bombarderoazul 1 year ago
@bombarderoazul
Hehe. So you can not understand the metaphorical meaning of lamps?
The Quran also states the iron was sent down on earth, meaning iron that is created in the nucleus of a big star was was sent down on earth and man has many uses of it.
Is that enough details for you..
Leon2101 1 year ago
@Leon2101 Why then doesn't the quran say that the sun is a very big huge lamp close to us. Instead it makes no mention of the fact that the sun is a star, and that a star is a sun. they are the same thing.
bombarderoazul 1 year ago
@bombarderoazul
Hahaha! Are you feeling ok man? You clearly need a lesson in both astronomy and religion.
You say, Sun and a star is the same thing. NOT TRUE BUDDY! Sun is only the name of OUR STAR, in our solar system. There are 200 billion other stars in only our milky way galaxy,do you think they all are called SUN??
Allah or God couldn't just give us numerous details about a star in year 600, people wouldn't understand a thing because of the extremely limited knowledge at that time.
Leon2101 1 year ago
@bombarderoazul
A centauri is another star closet to our solar system. Name is different, yet it is a star.
Anyways, what I mentioned about limited knowledge at that time when Quran was recited, that is the answer of your question. So on the other hand, people COULD understand the meaning of a lamp, an object that produce light and lights up the darkness. Same meaning.
If God started explaining everything in great detail, that would at least 10 more holy books like Quran to explain everthing.
Leon2101 1 year ago
@Leon2101 my point to all of this is not if the quran is right or wrong, but I want to know how you are so sure that the quran is correct, do you know that this book is one of many religious books around the world?. You know the Maya had a book called the popol vuh, which is more scientifically accurate than the quran, the bible, or any other book today. Their calendar is actually more accurate than the one we use today. Religions have had thousands of years to prove their point and have failed.
bombarderoazul 1 year ago
@bombarderoazul
Islam or Quran has not failed. It is the worlds fastest growing religion. And trust me, there is a very good reason for why people are using reason and logic and converting to Islam.
I'm a student and I always want to learn more and change after correct knowledge. If you can tell me ANYTHING that Islam has failed with, I would listen to you.
Quran is not a book of science, but it is a book of SIGNS! Signs to the whole humanity.
Please tell me what you believe in?
Leon2101 1 year ago
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If the beginning of the universe is based solely on matter, from where does personality, emotion, and communication come?
katesgrandy 1 year ago
If the beginning of the universe is bases solely on matter, from where does personality, emotion, and communication come?
katesgrandy 1 year ago
scientist have already managed to recreate nuclear fusion (at a very small scale, but they did nonetheless) And its just pressure and heat. And gravity causes that conditions to exist. Just pump alot of hydrogen in it and you have a star. The other elements while form terrestrial planets in a accretion disk which contains water, iron, rock all over the disk which forms planets by colliding on each other.
Thats why water must be everywhere and not just on earth or in the solar system.
Armigo91 1 year ago
secondly i dont seem to understand the big mystery of stars getting born. Theres a huge nebulae of gas (with matter) which was once a byproduct of a died star and gravity the working force in our universe caused all that gas (mostly hydrogen) to collapse onto itself until the pressure and heat at the core of the gas cloud got hot enough for nuclear fusion. Tada, you have a star, wat a mystery. And people still talking about god. What mroe is there to be discovered about this phenomenon.
Armigo91 1 year ago 2
The closest born star out of that 31000 stars per day might be born at a place weve never looked before even if it is closest to home.
Secondly we can only look in specific places in the milkyway, 95% of the milkyway (apart from some nice panorama hubble picture) has never been photographed into the detail that allowed us to see a born star, and looking for new stars in other galaxies is so science fictional. Only hubble can get clear images of other galaxies.
Armigo91 1 year ago
"Gas pressure is much stronger than gravity..so gravitational forces could not overcome gas pressures."
'o_O'
That doesn't make any sense. The sun itself is a fluid; composed mainly of hydrogen gas. It's also very VERY hot. If what you're saying were true, the sun should fly apart. Also note that the gravitational force is considered to be weaker than the nuclear force, but that doesn't mean the forces can't exist in equilibrium.
adkinsjr 1 year ago
"Gas pressure is much stronger than gravity." ... talk about comment cringe!
Pemberdeer 1 year ago
It's not that religious people fear or distrust science, I'm sure most humans do innately believe that the universe is a complex system, BUT it is the fact that science turns humans into fairly insignificant beings in the gigantic scope of space and time. To them, it means humans are not special and no divine being takes an interest in their sad little lives. This is certainly very disheartening to someone who needs a spiritual being to believe IN THEM as much as they believe IN IT.
fluidicmethod 1 year ago 24
@fluidicmethod mabey god made the big bang :D
brianvilla100 1 year ago
@fluidicmethod I am religious people-- Heavens just show the Glory of God- they sing of it, I think God is farmore powerful than we could have ever imagined, We think we know something? I think it is very little we know, or almost nothing, what wonders are hiden in God's creation. When we see huge God's creation, we start to see how bigger our God is than we are.
Slovjan 1 year ago
@fluidicmethod
Here we go again. Some Intellectual who claims that God doesn't exist because he only looks at one side of the coin. Please tell me where atoms, the four forces of nature and all the laws of physics came from? How come our Sun is the perfect age, size and distance from the earth. How come earth's size and gravity are perfectly tuned for life to exist. Who, or what, programmed the DNA for all the various life forms we have on the planet? Oh! Yeah! It all happened by chance.
wenlinkel 1 year ago
@wenlinkel
Here we go:
1. They all come from the big bang.
2.It doens't have to. Our live could begin in anoather galaxy. There are great possiblilities of the aproxomite range (not to hot, not too cold), so H2O could form. Actually, this means that in the universe, there might be more life, even inteligent one.
3. Look at the answer above.
4. Chemical reactions in the water programmed and created first life: One-celled organisms.
ingarsss 1 year ago
@wenlinkel of course it happened by chance, if it were so easy then there would be other humans or life forms all over the place, in every galaxy.
crazyhiho 1 year ago
@crazyhiho how do you know there arent other life forms? i mean there are billions of stars in our galaxy and so far humans have just barely left our solar system.. we have no proof that there aren't life forms in our galaxy .. hell if could be like fucking star wars in our galaxy but you cant prove it is or isnt .. so dont deny something you dont know
dozerislife 1 year ago
@dozerislife uhm okay? i think you are replying to the wrong person because i agree with everything you said.
i was trying to explain to 'wenlinkel', who is clearly a religious goon, that this little "humans couldnt have started randomly because the chances of that happening are 1 in 500 billion" makes sense, seeing as humans have not discovered other life YET and no other life has made there presence known to us.
im not denying anything LOL i know i dont know, its all THEORY.
crazyhiho 1 year ago
@crazyhiho totally clicked on the wrong person sorry dude haha
dozerislife 1 year ago
@dozerislife
Or like Star Trek (which sounds better since it's a space odyssey that takes place in our galaxy but in the future where we humans are finally exploring the deep ocean of space.) :)
"Space... the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its continuing mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has gone before."
TheStarTreker 1 year ago
If you believe the Big Bang, you are insane. If you believe the Earth was created 10,000 years ago, you're a nut. If you know that chaos cannot bread order, you have common sense and probably believe in God or a Supreme Power or Being - the Infinite version of yourself.
Place your faith in the right place.
parkerjwill 1 year ago
@parkerjwill "If you know that chaos cannot bread order" - well there seem to be order, cos one reaction is usually followed by another one, which can be predicted fairly accurate. This chaos you are referring to, what is it? What are the components and reactions of things which can't be predicted? "believe the Big Bang, you are insane" do you belief that our universe is expanding in all directions? If yes, then this expanding must have happend from somewhere. So not insane, just uncertain
BjornSeverinLarsen 1 year ago
@BjornSeverinLarsen What creates a novel, a pen and paper? No, an author. Can a sand castle form without a sculptor? Whatever is created must come from a source able to create it. What are you? A chance combination of material elements?
The majority of scientists are wrong and have no clue how the planets let alone the universe were created. It's actually pretty funny seeing how smart they think they are when a child can understand their theories are unbelievable.
parkerjwill 1 year ago
@parkerjwill Well that's just it. The universe and the way it works doesn't need a creator, all it need is matter and energy - so if a novel could be created without an author, then that would make sense. The universe needs no author, for it to make sense - it makes less sense that there should be an author of the universe. "when a child can understand their theories are unbelievable" what is unbelievable? So if children doesn't believe it, it can't be true? Pride of ignorance.. nice
BjornSeverinLarsen 1 year ago
@BjornSeverinLarsen OK. You believe what you will. And I'll do the same. This is a pointless discussion because you already know how the universe was created, with matter and energy of course! Try an experiment and see what you get: gather a pile of dirt, wood, and whatever other form of generally inert matter you can find, add some energy in the form of gasoline, and light it on fire and see what you get. More order? Or less order?
If you still disagree, then let's just agree to disagree.
parkerjwill 1 year ago
@parkerjwill No i don't know how the universe was created, but i don't think it was from an author creating the world in 6 days. I don't know if it is a big bang or membranes of existences rubbing against eachother. I don't know i the universe is infite or if it is finite. But we will never find out if we don't look, and we take peoples word for that it is rediculous to look.
BjornSeverinLarsen 1 year ago
@parkerjwill 2nd part So gasoline, dirt and wood is consistent with what theory of creation? How about try and see if you can create a singularity with all the matter and energy in the universe? Since that is the theory of the big bang, why would i take gasoline, dirt and wood? This order you are talking about, what is it exactly you mean? What is order when talking about the universe? I could proberbly calculate how far the wood would fly if i blew up the gasoline = order or??
BjornSeverinLarsen 1 year ago
@BjornSeverinLarsen I don't even know where to begin with you. You seem to be reading too many Scientific American magazines or watching the Science Channel a bit too much. First, you should learn how to create a complete sentence.
I believe the world was created in 6 days? It really is pointless to discuss these matters with persons such as yourself. Why? Because you can't think for yourself. You let so-called scientists do the thinking for you - you're schooled, trained and controlled.
parkerjwill 1 year ago
@parkerjwill I have no idea if you believe that the world was created in 6 days. It was an eksample. But you still have not answered what this order and disorder is, that you keep talking about. Yes my sentence structure is not particularly good, cos my language is not english. And no i don't read those journals, but i do have a belief in science, but it's based on the scientific method, and the ontological theories behind it. I would like to hear you're reasoning for you're methodology
BjornSeverinLarsen 1 year ago
@BjornSeverinLarsen Please accept my apologies about language. Regarding order and chaos. If you have a system which exhibits order, like a solar system, that order cannot come out of chaos. That is backwards. So there must be a source of order capable of creating systems like a our solar system.
It is faulty thinking to believe that something can come from nothing. You have to ignore your own reality as a conscious living being to think this way. Do you understand?
parkerjwill 1 year ago
@parkerjwill I do understand the premis, that something cannot come from nothing. However i do fail to understand how order is something and chaos is nothing. What is the chaos you are referring to with the birth of our solarsystem? The source of order, which was allso there at the birth of the solarsystem, was gravity. Destruction does not equal chaos. As far as i understand the theory about the solarsystem's creation then it was all about matter and pressure = gravity, which i find orderly
BjornSeverinLarsen 1 year ago
@BjornSeverinLarsen You have to use inductive logic. You must place reality within you, within your own personal experience. In that state of mind, where common sense resides, you can see things as they are. The Big Bang rests on fantastic mathematical acrobatics, NOT observation. How could it?
Why can't you grasp this idea of order? It's simple. How is a car made? Well, its creation starts where? In the mind of an engineer. What is an engineer? A conscious living entity with intelligence.
parkerjwill 1 year ago
@parkerjwill Well i don't fancy the big bang theory much anyway. Should be the theory of the expanding universe, which is the only thing we have sufficient evidence for. The rest is guesswork, educated guesses, but guesses nontheless. However to understand scientific knowledge, it is important, not to use common sense. This is why philosophy and natural science differs. Natural science needs to show collaborated evidence, from many sources, untill it can say to be a welltested theory. continued
BjornSeverinLarsen 1 year ago
@parkerjwill 2nd part "The big bang rests on fantastical mathematical..." well yes the initial blast claculation etc does. However it is basicly a reverse of what we see today, where the galaxies move away from eachother, those furthest away, with grander speed etc. So rewind it backwards, and what do we find.. everything came from one point. But as i said in my first comment, the bang part doesn't carry alot of evidence. It is all based on our expanding universe. To be continued
BjornSeverinLarsen 1 year ago
@parkerjwill 3rd part Your concept of order, i would guess is based on someone making stuff, as of your car analogy. But i still do not see the chaos in the birth of our solarsystem. The universe had allrdy existed some billion years when our sun formed. So its not the big bang im talking about, but the birth of our star. Allso how can the big bang be considered chaos? Those who hypothesis on the area, can show some orderly, though violent, mechanisms. You have to show me the order and chaos
BjornSeverinLarsen 1 year ago
@BjornSeverinLarsen There's one HUGE difference between you and I; you rely solely on speculation whereas I rely solely on transcendental knowledge. That is a whole other subject.
You have to give up speculation altogether. As for your loyalty to Hubble and redshift, watch this video: The Electric Universe by shrunkensimon
Let's carry any further discussion there, at The Electric Universe.
parkerjwill 1 year ago
@fluidicmethod thats your own world-view, please dont mix it with science.
sam199166 1 year ago
@sam199166 fuck off hes telling the truth :/
j85h 1 year ago
Can anyone tell me what happens to a gas when it gets heated up? It creates pressure to equalize because of the laws of thermodynamics. Gas pressure is much stronger than gravity..so gravitational forces could not overcome gas pressures. The truth is that they do not know how stars were formed by natural means. The Nebula model would have to break the 2nd law of thermodynamics. The 2nd law of thermodynamics cannot be broken. Therefore the nebula model is not true.
albundyinc2 1 year ago
@albundyinc2
" The truth is that they do not know how stars were formed by natural mean"
Yes they do know, stars are formed in a Nebula.
YourGodAnswersToMe 1 year ago
@drewsky684 I think you have a good point there ive also thought the same i dont see any reason why it cant be that way.
Deeky74 1 year ago
@rehzon your kidding about stars not forming in nebulas,right? Have you learned astronomy physics? There is a lot of BS in the mainstream science,but that is not one of them. If your opinion is formulated by the Electrical Universe,you must understand that both models need to be unified.
wiseyeffect 1 year ago
Go further with this hypothetical story and you find that the laws of this theory are broken by every single planet and several moons in our solar system. Just some examples...Jupiter spins too fast, the moon is too close to the earth, Pluto is impossible, Uranus spins on its side..this goes on and on. Watch "Our Solar System: evidence of a creator" on here and you will see all of the problems with this theory.
albundyinc2 1 year ago
@albundyinc2
Of course the BB-theory is not yet complete, which is simply because it takes a lot of time to develop the technical equipment necessary for research. Let´s talk again in 100 years :)
You are so busy fighting the BB-Theory that you don´t even notice that the "creation" theory is not even half as holeproof :)
Contifex 1 year ago
@albundyinc2
You actually believe the crap they put out? Dude, they are fundamentalists. Nebula theory makes testable predictions and is the only model that fits our observations. None of the things you list falsify Nebula theory. You have to be delusional to think that someone ('god")actually constructed the solar system with all the random asteroids, moons, planets, and comets. If it were created, there would be ONE planet EARTH. There wouldn't planets floating around for no reason.
YourGodAnswersToMe 1 year ago
@YourGodAnswersToMe the nebula theory was debunked 200 years ago and has reappeared because no other naturalistic model fits as well. Everything that I stated shows flaws in the nebula model. I can name several more. But the fact of the matter is that to believe in the Nebula model is to have a faith in it. It is no more proveable than God created everything. The honorable thing to do is to admit it is a faith...I can do that for my belief system.
albundyinc2 1 year ago
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@albundyinc2
God creates comets, asteroids, meteorites, and random planets with moons orbiting them for his glory?
hahahhaha, you moron.
"It creates pressure to equalize because of the laws of thermodynamics. "
"It creates pressure to equalize because of the laws of thermodynamics. "
Provide a calculation for your assertions; and post it in the physics forums (use google to find the forums) so you can type the equations using latex. Let's see if you're correct.
YourGodAnswersToMe 1 year ago
@albundyinc2
"Everything that I stated shows flaws in the nebula model."
Post your claims in the physics forums for scrutiny. See if you really understand as much as you think you do.
YourGodAnswersToMe 1 year ago
@YourGodAnswersToMe If they are intellectually honest they will admit that their Nebula model is never been observed and it has several issues that cannot be predicted or answered. According to the time frame and the amount of stars that there are there should be over 31,000 stars formed every day...yet we have never seen one created...why? Shall I address that question to the physics forum?
albundyinc2 1 year ago
@albundyinc2
"According to the time frame and the amount of stars that there are there should be over 31,000 stars formed every day...yet we have never seen one created...why"
31,000 where? Just anywhere in the universe? Individual stars in other galaxies would be difficult to observe. A star like our sun would be an invisible microscopic spec of dust hidden deep inside the milky way, you'd never find it. We can only directly observe protoplanetary systems in nearby nebula, like the Orion.
adkinsjr 1 year ago
@albundyinc2
Only 31.000? no wonder you dont observe them. There are a few hundred billions galaxies discovered (i said DISCOVERED, so there probably 1000times more) of which each contain hundred billions of stars, hundred billion times hundred billions in comparison to a count of 31000 is like finding the queen ant out of millions. 31.000 is a large number, but its a single atom to the amount of atoms in a human body that you try to discover wether it is 31000 every day.
Armigo91 1 year ago
@YourGodAnswersToMe - Psalm 19:1
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
In other words he made all for His glory. Think about what is more rediculous...God created the universe or the universe came from nothing. Another fact of the cosmos is that the nebula model predicts there is no center of the universe...least of all not earth. But our measurements place us within reasonable range of the center if not the center of the universe.
albundyinc2 1 year ago
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@albundyinc2
"Another fact of the cosmos is that the nebula model predicts there is no center of the universe..."
LOL, there is no preferred frame of reference in the universe, and therefore no center. This is relativity.
YourGodAnswersToMe 1 year ago
science can only go so far, then comes god. :p
itsCANDYbby 1 year ago
@itsCANDYbby Awesome indeed.
MrAmbicious 1 year ago
Is it just me..or does the law of conservation of energy make no sense?!?! It makes sense if u apply it on earth but if u apply it to the origin of the universe on the whole it makes no sense. Sadly most of science is based under the assumption of this law. Maybe there is a god. Think about it...
JokhanD 1 year ago
@JokhanD The law of conservation makes no sense to 5 year olds, so I'm asuming you are five :), GTFO.
masteranimation2008 1 year ago
kia mamooo (Uncle) bana raha he yeah
droppermyth1 1 year ago