Throughout history, all conquerors, regardless of religion, race, or ethnicity always boasted about how great their conquests are! That's why I do not buy all these heroic tales, regardless of who is talking about them!
Nothing heroic I see about invading someone else's country and land! And you seem to have forgotten that Tariq ended his days being a beggar on the streets of Damascus! You may sing praises to him now, 1300 years later, you forefathers certainly did not! Now, as a Christian I respect Muslims and I respect Islam, but I do not see history as Black or White, but as many grey shades in between!
Visigoth Christians? You are so wrong. Their knowledge of Christianity was rudimentary at best! At that time what you call Christianity in Europe was mix of pagan and Christian ideas!
إن طارقا بن زياد "الأمازيغي" يمجده العروبيون ويعتبرونه بطلا "أمازيغيا" فتح الأندلس لنشر العربية والإسلام. لكن هناك سؤلا لا يطرح حول هذا "الحب" العربي لطارق "الأمازيغي": ماذا كان جزاء العرب لهذا الطارق "الأمازيغي" الذي أفنى حياته في خدمتهم؟ ألم يكن هو الإذلال والاحتقار والحبس والإهانة إلى أن مات معدما ومتسولا في ارض الغربة بالشام، مجهول القبر ـ إن كان
له قبر ـ الذي لا يعرف مكانه؟ وهذا ما يدعو إلى الاستغراب حقا: كيف لقائد مثل طارق، وبمثل منجزاته وفتوحاته، يجهل المؤرخون كل شيء عن قبره والأرض التي دفن بها؟ مع أن المألوف مع مثل هؤلاء الفاتحين العظماء أن يكون قبرهم ضريحا ومزارا يحج إليه المسلمون من كل أصقاع الدنيا. فكيف يعقل أن طارقا، الذي أوصل الإسلام إلى جبال البيريني الفرنسية، مجهول القبر، وأن نهاية
حياته غير معروفة بدقة، في حين نجد إدريس الأول ـ وكذلك الثاني ـ، الذي جاء إلى المغرب هاربا لاجئا، وجائعا متسولا يطلب الأمن والأمان، بقام له ضريح بقبة خضراء ويحتفل بذكرى وفاته رسميا كل سنة، مع أنه لم يفتح أندلسا ولا حارب كفارا ولا أحرق سفنا ولا ألقى خطبة؟
إن التعامل المهين والظالم للعرب مع طارق، رغم كل الخدمات التي قدمها لهم، ليعبر عن قمة العنصرية والغدر والنكران للجميل. وفي ذلك درس مبين وعبرة بليغة لكل المغاربة المتهافتين على خدمة الإيديولوجيات الشرقانية العروبية.
@broly91300 Look no one man has authority over moroccan tribes to say who is and is not an exception and who can and cannot do this or that! this is the problem! I know berbers and Arabs who side with each other on uniting berbers and arabs as one so if some berbers want to be secluded they cannot tell the rest of the rest of the arab and berber people what to do! and I clearly stated that the Ait atta are authentic and have culture!
@broly91300 So you see I am telling you that the problem lies IN THE MIND! It is the reaction to a Person as if they are an alien because of things that are in Reality not that important which is culture that is causing this issue! Otherwise no body would have a problem with anybody!
@broly91300 No that is not true! if you can look at my page and look at the Ait Atta tribe video and tell me these people do not have arab in them! they look exactally like the sahrawi in the south of morocco! but allot of people do not know this so when they see the ait atta they just say they are berber people! and when you see the sahrawi people say they are arab people! and they both are arab and berber mixed! so the ait atta and sahrawi have their culture and i respect them both!
@broly91300 You see but here is the problem that we berber and arab people in north africa must realize that we are all mixed! so for me disrespect to arabs and the berbers is one in the same! so to say that he wants algeria to be like saudi arabia so what! who are the saudis just people like berbers and i have seen Yemenis that look exactally like us so what is what I am saying who cares about arab or berber it is the same!
@broly91300 The mixing of Arabs and Berbers is a VERY Difficult one to solve so People should understand this. How certain is anyone that Tariq's ancestors did not mix with Arabs? Where are all of them now? You see and I know of Berber tribes who have mixed with arabs!
When was europe weak, what had european did to muslims when they invade jerusalem.... The rape our women kill the men and steal our goods in the name of christianity...... It is only when dar ul islam was established that europe became weak... This is why they had secretly prepare there revenge and we can see the consequences today, muslims are stil suffering...
The Muslims did plenty of killing and raping when they invaded Spain. Maybe you think war is a picnic. Just think of Almanzor who invaded the Christian territories 57 times. He took the church bells and made the captured slaves to carry it back to Cordoba. The reconquista has nothing to do with the Muslims of today who still live in the dark age; committing crimes like stoning women to death.
@ratednine why is america invading the weak countries now and don't go to war with korea or with russia ????? spain wasn't weak cause the vatican was behind them!!!! get you historical facts right
War is wrong and invasion is bad no matter who is doing it. Iberia was in a state of decline. Just read history. There is no need to glorify Tariq and the rest of them.
@ratednine I don't glorify any one ony ALLAH SWT but let us be real and all countries are made and established by invasions ??? so why not be proud of the ones who do that try to bring at that time Civilization to europe the were living with chickens and piggs in theri living room look at europe now the only reason why europe is where they are today is by th power of Allah and by Man like Tariq ibn Ziyad.
@youngjeezyme Not all Europe was in the dark ages. You overlook other areas of Europe. True they did not have a civilization as we regonize it, but they lived like Native Americans. In order to a have decent life,you do have to build cities, as case with numerous hunter-gatherers throughout the world demonstrated!
# 8:65 (Asad) O Prophet! Inspire the believers to conquer all fear of death when fighting, [69] [so that,] if there be twenty of you who are patient in adversity, they might overcome two hundred; and [that,] if there be one hundred of you, they might overcome one thousand of those who are bent on denying the truth, because they are people who cannot grasp it. [70]
Throughout history, all conquerors, regardless of religion, race, or ethnicity always boasted about how great their conquests are! That's why I do not buy all these heroic tales, regardless of who is talking about them!
TheAntoninusPius 2 months ago
Nothing heroic I see about invading someone else's country and land! And you seem to have forgotten that Tariq ended his days being a beggar on the streets of Damascus! You may sing praises to him now, 1300 years later, you forefathers certainly did not! Now, as a Christian I respect Muslims and I respect Islam, but I do not see history as Black or White, but as many grey shades in between!
TheAntoninusPius 2 months ago
Visigoth Christians? You are so wrong. Their knowledge of Christianity was rudimentary at best! At that time what you call Christianity in Europe was mix of pagan and Christian ideas!
TheAntoninusPius 2 months ago
HE WAS A BLACKMAN...WTF...ISLAM
AFRICA4AFRICANS 9 months ago
إن طارقا بن زياد "الأمازيغي" بطلا "أمازيغيا" فتح الأندلس لنشر الإسلام
MegaNickylarson 11 months ago
إن طارقا بن زياد "الأمازيغي" يمجده العروبيون ويعتبرونه بطلا "أمازيغيا" فتح الأندلس لنشر العربية والإسلام. لكن هناك سؤلا لا يطرح حول هذا "الحب" العربي لطارق "الأمازيغي": ماذا كان جزاء العرب لهذا الطارق "الأمازيغي" الذي أفنى حياته في خدمتهم؟ ألم يكن هو الإذلال والاحتقار والحبس والإهانة إلى أن مات معدما ومتسولا في ارض الغربة بالشام، مجهول القبر ـ إن كان
aryazamakrane 1 year ago
له قبر ـ الذي لا يعرف مكانه؟ وهذا ما يدعو إلى الاستغراب حقا: كيف لقائد مثل طارق، وبمثل منجزاته وفتوحاته، يجهل المؤرخون كل شيء عن قبره والأرض التي دفن بها؟ مع أن المألوف مع مثل هؤلاء الفاتحين العظماء أن يكون قبرهم ضريحا ومزارا يحج إليه المسلمون من كل أصقاع الدنيا. فكيف يعقل أن طارقا، الذي أوصل الإسلام إلى جبال البيريني الفرنسية، مجهول القبر، وأن نهاية
aryazamakrane 1 year ago
حياته غير معروفة بدقة، في حين نجد إدريس الأول ـ وكذلك الثاني ـ، الذي جاء إلى المغرب هاربا لاجئا، وجائعا متسولا يطلب الأمن والأمان، بقام له ضريح بقبة خضراء ويحتفل بذكرى وفاته رسميا كل سنة، مع أنه لم يفتح أندلسا ولا حارب كفارا ولا أحرق سفنا ولا ألقى خطبة؟
aryazamakrane 1 year ago
إن التعامل المهين والظالم للعرب مع طارق، رغم كل الخدمات التي قدمها لهم، ليعبر عن قمة العنصرية والغدر والنكران للجميل. وفي ذلك درس مبين وعبرة بليغة لكل المغاربة المتهافتين على خدمة الإيديولوجيات الشرقانية العروبية.
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@broly91300 Look no one man has authority over moroccan tribes to say who is and is not an exception and who can and cannot do this or that! this is the problem! I know berbers and Arabs who side with each other on uniting berbers and arabs as one so if some berbers want to be secluded they cannot tell the rest of the rest of the arab and berber people what to do! and I clearly stated that the Ait atta are authentic and have culture!
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@broly91300 So you see I am telling you that the problem lies IN THE MIND! It is the reaction to a Person as if they are an alien because of things that are in Reality not that important which is culture that is causing this issue! Otherwise no body would have a problem with anybody!
j9jj1234 1 year ago
@broly91300 No that is not true! if you can look at my page and look at the Ait Atta tribe video and tell me these people do not have arab in them! they look exactally like the sahrawi in the south of morocco! but allot of people do not know this so when they see the ait atta they just say they are berber people! and when you see the sahrawi people say they are arab people! and they both are arab and berber mixed! so the ait atta and sahrawi have their culture and i respect them both!
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@broly91300 You see but here is the problem that we berber and arab people in north africa must realize that we are all mixed! so for me disrespect to arabs and the berbers is one in the same! so to say that he wants algeria to be like saudi arabia so what! who are the saudis just people like berbers and i have seen Yemenis that look exactally like us so what is what I am saying who cares about arab or berber it is the same!
j9jj1234 1 year ago
@broly91300 The mixing of Arabs and Berbers is a VERY Difficult one to solve so People should understand this. How certain is anyone that Tariq's ancestors did not mix with Arabs? Where are all of them now? You see and I know of Berber tribes who have mixed with arabs!
j9jj1234 1 year ago
I Am a direct decendent of tarek bin zeyad :D
blobguy1212 1 year ago
@blobguy1212 seriously?! that is so epic
lewtify 1 year ago
What's so heroic to invade a country that was weak at the time?
ratednine 1 year ago
@ratednine Spain was'nt weak at that time, at all.
saladinswarrior 1 year ago 5
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When was europe weak, what had european did to muslims when they invade jerusalem.... The rape our women kill the men and steal our goods in the name of christianity...... It is only when dar ul islam was established that europe became weak... This is why they had secretly prepare there revenge and we can see the consequences today, muslims are stil suffering...
kyokukai 1 year ago
@kyokukai
The Muslims did plenty of killing and raping when they invaded Spain. Maybe you think war is a picnic. Just think of Almanzor who invaded the Christian territories 57 times. He took the church bells and made the captured slaves to carry it back to Cordoba. The reconquista has nothing to do with the Muslims of today who still live in the dark age; committing crimes like stoning women to death.
ratednine 1 year ago
@ratednine why is america invading the weak countries now and don't go to war with korea or with russia ????? spain wasn't weak cause the vatican was behind them!!!! get you historical facts right
youngjeezyme 1 year ago
@youngjeezyme
War is wrong and invasion is bad no matter who is doing it. Iberia was in a state of decline. Just read history. There is no need to glorify Tariq and the rest of them.
ratednine 1 year ago
@ratednine I don't glorify any one ony ALLAH SWT but let us be real and all countries are made and established by invasions ??? so why not be proud of the ones who do that try to bring at that time Civilization to europe the were living with chickens and piggs in theri living room look at europe now the only reason why europe is where they are today is by th power of Allah and by Man like Tariq ibn Ziyad.
youngjeezyme 1 year ago
@youngjeezyme Not all Europe was in the dark ages. You overlook other areas of Europe. True they did not have a civilization as we regonize it, but they lived like Native Americans. In order to a have decent life,you do have to build cities, as case with numerous hunter-gatherers throughout the world demonstrated!
TheAntoninusPius 2 months ago
@ratednine spain was one of the strongest countries, weak isnt a word for spain at that time
watchtube93 1 year ago
@ratednine shut up u fool
8soccer4life8 4 months ago
@ratednine he took over persia 2
8soccer4life8 4 months ago
he wase a berber man not arabic !!! so tel us somethings about that !
asifnziz 1 year ago
@asifnziz
yes, Tarik Ibn Zyad was Berber;
But now all his descendants are Arabs
AraboAlgerian2 1 year ago
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@AraboAlgerian2 No they're not ;)
nagamora 1 year ago
# 8:65 (Asad) O Prophet! Inspire the believers to conquer all fear of death when fighting, [69] [so that,] if there be twenty of you who are patient in adversity, they might overcome two hundred; and [that,] if there be one hundred of you, they might overcome one thousand of those who are bent on denying the truth, because they are people who cannot grasp it. [70]
Hanmaybj 1 year ago
lailahaillallah
kGOMen 2 years ago
brothers go wikipedia and read the speech given by tariq ibn yazid. its amazing...
Rudie88 2 years ago
Ma tmanyoukch ya
berbereusa 2 years ago
ALLAHU AKBAR
mindmineral 2 years ago
salam alaikum
mashallah
thanks 4 sharin bro
Muhajabaah 2 years ago