@gasripper2 Congratulations dumbfuck It was 7.5 billion not 50 retard. And they've paid back 6 billion. It is sad that you don't know how to count or take into account unemployment which = no money to buy cars. Btw nice grammar. What are you? Retarded or Mexican?
@Wowmasta21 ...Not to mention that it's simple economics that gasripper2, and other dolts refuse to buy American, is what caused the big 3 to begin to go under anyway. I also don't want anyone give me the "(Insert foreign car here) is made in America, so it's American". The profits are going to another country, and they pay their workers here almost 5 dollars less an hour.
Mustang won. I read the autobiography of the guy who desined the bose and he said that the car safety people make them put in the rpm gauge to ready up to 8 thousand but they r acctually good up to 15500
Has anyone mention the 50 BILLION!!!!!!! dollar bail out of GM!!! GM should be out of business!! DONE NO MORE CAN BE SAID!!! I am not a ford, chevy or dodge guy! Dodge should be gone also!! It is sad that GM does not know how to run a company!!!
@Mr310Westside yeah to bad that car is going to cost over 80 grand if it follows the trend of recent Cobras. Sorry I don't care their is not a justification for the price ford charges for their GT500's and up
@TrueTexanPSN1 Seeing as an srt8 will run you over $40k, i'd say a supercharged DOHC v8 with a slightly conservative rating of 550 hp is worth the extra five to seven grand, wouldn't you? The whole super snake thing, well, i'm not a fan of all that, cool package and all but a big waste of money in my opinion, I can make a new Mustang GT just as fast as a super snake for around half the cost of the gt500 w/ super snake package, and it won't be nearly as much of a cop magnet. Lol.
Lol some of you will NEVER understand ford engine families because your stuck in magazines when most parts are interchangeable. all you have to do is find a great combo because ford gives you the lowest possible parts. The whole point is for you to think and build.....
There hasn't been a True Ford production line Boss Mustang since 1970... Just saying. And yes, I know the 2012 Mustang will be a Boss. But it isn't out yet so... It doesn't count.
@jaygeepee1- i agree was there any car in the 60s that could beet the 427 cobra with both of them stalk from the factory .. dont think so but everyone thinks the cobra is english.. the onlything english about it is carol shelby got the body from a aston heley and put a FORD 427 in it.. blew everything away of that day ...
Why are you dorks always fighting? Ford, Chevy, Mopar..... who gives a fuck. Its about cars, and car people, and running them. You can make big horsepower out of anything you want to build. The key is getting off of the computer and learning how to port your heads, and use tools like big boys. Love the competition, hate the fags with opinions of shit they only hear from people who are actually doing stuff.
@surfing1234 don't need shit except a 7.0L engine. How faggy. Chevy engines suck so bad that the only way they can make power is by over sizing them, yet the new 5.0 out runs the 6.2. Chevy fails. I'd take crackerjack hp over small dick big block hp any day of the week
@quiksixx95 - Fords always been able to make high HP cars, just chose not to. Fords never been far behind GM or Chrysler, hell GM had to build the 1994 Camaro Z28 to put the 5.0 out of comission. The 5.0 dominated the muscle car circuit from the mid 80's until 1994 with a smaller motor. It hasn't been forty years. Regardless The BIG three need to stop fighting and go out and eat some RICE!!!
@JayGeePee1 I'm not sure what 5.0 your talkin about... Shit i had a 3.4 207 cu. in. stock 95 camaro with a glass pack that would stomp 5.0 stangs all day. An 3.4 v6 only puts out 160 at the crank... that was 15 years and 160,000 miles ago. But I do agree with the last part. Everyone should start focusing on getting hondas out of the racing world and back to how it should've always been.
@surfing1234 ya what an awsome excuse hahaha my intelligence is supiror to yours because i said so! i build all my cars cuz i have the videos to back it up!. shut up dude. you didn't prove me wrong either. why is the new 5.0 beating the camaro!? how why? its 1.2L bigger
@surfing1234 Folks ignore the troll named “surfing1234” he is a little idiot KID who I know. He is a complete loser in school and cant get any girls to score with him. He parades around thinking he is some "cool hard-core gangsta mac daddy" but he is really just an uncool wannabe who comes here on youtube to talk trash because he is a JOKE when he is in person and not online. He is a total joke, I know him. Just ignore him.
In 1967, when chevy came out with the camaro, it had a 295 HP 350. Then, the ford Mustang GT had a 335hp 390cid. The four speed camaro did 0-60 in 8 seconds and the quarter mile in 15.4 at 90 mph-directly comparable to the Mustang so I'd say small cubic inch chevies have the upper hand.The chevy 302 z/28 had a 7500rp, shift point and a 140mph top speed, and besides that Big Blocks have gobs of torque over small blocks.
The Boss 429 was a limited run speedway motor, standing start acceleration was poor, and the first run from the factory was built with incorrect valve springs(typical ford) and stopped winding at 4800 rpm, 400 rpm before peak power was made. The 454 LS6 in the 70' Chevelle had the highest factory horespower rating during the muscle car era at 450hp, and even weighing in at 4000lbs, was .7 of a second quicker to 60 and .3 of a second faster in the quarter than the 3,800lb mustang 429.
@rebelman108 Not to mention the 426 Hemi, the darling of all the critics. It made an actual 500hp, where the CJ 428, with 2" more displacement and higher compression, made only 410 actual horespower(factory rated at 335hp) The 68 Charger Hemi, which is 4300lbs, is .1 quicker to 60 and .3 quicker and 5mph faster in the quarter than the 3600lb Mustang CJ. Not to mention it was a lethargic engine, unlike free reving chevy. Enough Said
ford made the move to mod motors to save money. they needed a motor that could go in just about all of their cars and trucks with little change done to the assy line!
Oh yea and another thing,what cars in that year was pushing hp #'s like these two beasts?........."Supercars" So people stop saying they arent, there is a reason that they were NOT massed produced and made for the streets.Put a stock "Supercar" next to em' on the strip and see how the race turns out. In fact there's quote un qoute Supercars today that are only 500hp that sell for way over$100,000. Love them are hate them these are really 2 BAD CARS!!
93549john1,kickinbuttalot you are both right and i agree with you. I admit im a pro-Ford guy but i am not fully biased Chevy makes some quality cars too,and what everyone sees here are two completely RIDICULOUSLY AWESOME CARS. I am not a big Camaro guy, unless we talking 68's and classics like them(the 2010 ones are pretty cool too),but both Chevy AND Ford made two street killing machines. People complain about prices?This is what 02' cars pushing 700hp out the box, come on! Im American muscle!
@93549john1 Thats a cobra r. which if im not mistaken is a special edition of a mustang. Take a hennessy camaro or a lingenfelter trans am an pin it up against that cobra r and see what happens. I met a guy on woodward in michigan who had a lingenfelter trans am just like it came from them that would eat up anything all day.
Ford can't keep up without a blower? Well then the camaro can't keep up without a ridiculously sized engine. Who cares if the Mustang has a super charger? Your arguement is completely arbitrary. Ford actually listens to customers and the economy. The bottom line is that the camaro is a completely impratical piece of garbage made by a garbage company. Thats why nobody bought them and they got discontinued. That is why GM declared bankruptcy and the Government had to bail them out.
in my opinion the fact that ford keeps running small motors that cant keep up againt the 5.7 350 all star motor...im a ford guy and i wish they would bring back the 351c which would even up the playing field between mustang and camaro in an all motor race...
typical...when chevy has a car running ALL MOTOR! ford has to tag along with a fucking supercharger to keep up. ford does not have a single car in product that runs all motor that will beat a 12 year old camaro Z28 with the ls1. what chance will they have at beating a ls7 z06 on all motor? probly never lol Chevy don't play like pussys they run all motor like men should!
Then why is the new Corvette ZR1, that all the Youtube Chevy fans keep crowing about, supercharged? Are the GM engineers 'playing like pussies' or are you just an ignorant dumb fuck? Methinks that it is most definitely the latter.
I saw the video and owned the C&D magazine with this article, noe real winner since both cars had problems, the camaro coudn't best the mustang in the 1/4 mile before it broke and fixed its rear end. The stang lost oil pressure on the road test and lost. The thing that made the mustang win in my mind was the astonishing 0-60 time of 1.9 seconds and a burn out that left a pile of rubber burning on the ground.
i see some educated posters and it makes me happy... no highschool garbage so far. I love chevy ok? but I love for more :D I just bought an 03 cobra and I wouldnt trade it even for a zr1... dumb as that sounds I am dead seriouse.
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Seems kind of retarded to compare the two worst car manufacturers, but Ford vs Toyota wouldn't be fair I guess... Whats more, "brand is the refuge of the ignorant".
i dont agree. how often do you see a GT40 on the street? i have seen just 1 to the countless #s of corvettes. the comparo should be between the best cars that were produced in large #s. how many GT40s sold in the past few years vs vettes?
It doesn't matter if you don't agree. The Mustang GT is simply not in the same league as the 60-100k Vette.
However, they do make HIGH END Mustangs that are a lot faster than the GT that you might compare it with if it's in the same price range.
Hell GM is almost pricing itself out of the range with the new Camaro. The same people that bought the Camaro back in 2002, wont be able to afford it in 2010.
that is what i was trying to say, if they made alot of those high end mustangs they should be compared to the vette of similar price. i dont think the gt40 would be fair. wait till GM dreams up some wild super car to rival it that 1 in million people will own then compare those 2.
i guess the zr1 camaro would be that wild super car, 100,000+ for sure, i dont know the price of the gt40 but im betting its high, a comparison between those 2 would be great.
Only if they made a GT40 this year. And they didn't. It's not really fair to compare TODAY'S model of Vette with a car Ford made a few years ago now is it?
But you specifically said "GT" That is what I was arguing against. The Mustang GT is not, I repeat, not in the same league as the Vette. You get a Mustang in the 60-100k range and then you can compare.
So you both know, the new version is called the Ford GT. It's the new version of the old GT40.
Secondly, Mustangs are meant to compete with the Fbody (Camaro/Firebird). Just because they quit making them doesn't mean the Mustang is all of a sudden in the Corvette class. No, it's still out to compete with other 4/5 seater cars.
In my opinion, You compare cars that are close to each other hp to weight ratio. Mustangs generally weigh 3,900lbs corvettes are roughly around 3,200. This is just a different class. Mustangs are muscle cars just like the Dodge Challenger and Charger. Corvettes are more in the "supercar" category.
@FordGTGuy: When I was talking about 3900lbs, I was talking about the GT500. I don't even consider the mustang GT a high performance car. And the boss 302 didn't even exist 2 years ago when I made that comment.
@branden1979 ok, thats why its a mustang vs a camaro, not a vette, camaros destroy stangs, and a high end car like a vette, would probably destroy a camaro... well stock to stock atleast
@XcopeXtwocansam: Let me start off by saying that personally, I like mustangs, camaros, and Challengers equally. I'm an american, I don't favor one american brand over the other. (Especially when the europeans are sitting back pointing and laughing at the american effort to build high quality cars). But I wouldn't say that camaros kill mustangs. There has got to be some reason why mustangs are the best selling sports cars in U.S. history.
@V8Supercar1 1)a challenger is german. all of mopar was bought out by mercedes-benz, and it is literally "imported from detroit" 2) camaros really do kill, because i own a 2010 V6 and i am beating GTs :P the reason they are more popular is because its a chick car, and statistics show you see more women in mustangs. and there are more women in the US. also, people like the fact that its a customizable collectible american car. which explains all the aftermarket brands JUST FOR mustang.
@JDYDesigns its all about the driver mod ......i have beatin v6 camaro's in my 96gt before my PI swap even though he had some 100hp over me, strictly cause they couldnt drive so i commend you on beating any 05-10 gt with a decent driver ..... camaro's arent all that great ...i had a 95 and just could get with it .....drop the 2010 and the interior was like that of my 96gt cheap .....but the mustang was 15 years old ....
of course everyone is gonna talk shit about eachother if u were a ford guy youd hate chevy if you were a chevy guy you would hate ford why dont you people ever stop bitching
@FordSVT1313 i'm a ford guy and i don't hate chevy, i actually like the ss, if i had a deeper pocket i would have it too. i just hate people who talk shit over "unofficial stats" and stupid shit like that. both are good cars, both cars have their pros and both have their cons. problem is the opposite manufacture buyer only sees the cons in the other car. i just hate shit talkers
@asdfghjkl47154 exactly personally i like my body style cobra but the ss is sick as hell. If you had enough money for both you could make them as fast as you please but no one gets that these days
@FordSVT1313 true, it's not chevy vs ford vs dodge anymore...it used to be 30 years ago. but now it's chevy,ford, dodge vs. dumbass teenagers who decide to spend all their money into a slow shitty import, ricing it out as much as they can, and thinking you can go fast just because you have a huge spoiler on the ass end. thats where this concentration of competetiveness needs to be going to
because a 302 boss can beat a 454 motor the boss is designed for performance and mods you can give a 302 boss 1800 hp thats pretty freakin good for a small motor
shit cars and shit video, we want 2012 comparison
camarocomputer 2 weeks ago
JDYDesigns ur stupid man. Dodge has never been bought be Mercedes if anything fiat has a small share of it and that's it
e30pimp222 1 month ago
camaro would win stock to stock but this video could go either way.
1911harbinger 3 months ago
both look shit
zinguchiha 4 months ago
was this recorded with a microwave
sojuwannadrink1 6 months ago
@sojuwannadrink1 fucking idiot..
jov818 6 months ago
@jov818 a fucking idiot likes chris brown
sojuwannadrink1 6 months ago
@sojuwannadrink1 ROFL
WWBZT1 6 months ago
@gasripper2 Congratulations dumbfuck It was 7.5 billion not 50 retard. And they've paid back 6 billion. It is sad that you don't know how to count or take into account unemployment which = no money to buy cars. Btw nice grammar. What are you? Retarded or Mexican?
Wowmasta21 6 months ago
@Wowmasta21 ...Not to mention that it's simple economics that gasripper2, and other dolts refuse to buy American, is what caused the big 3 to begin to go under anyway. I also don't want anyone give me the "(Insert foreign car here) is made in America, so it's American". The profits are going to another country, and they pay their workers here almost 5 dollars less an hour.
craze1701 6 months ago
Mustang won. I read the autobiography of the guy who desined the bose and he said that the car safety people make them put in the rpm gauge to ready up to 8 thousand but they r acctually good up to 15500
Trebuer22 6 months ago
How is that 1995 mustang gt a boss if they haven't been produced since 1969.....
Rawr1990 7 months ago
i love this shoot out good ole 90s
bigredchevy1987 7 months ago
Ford, the best
juancitoz14 7 months ago
Has anyone mention the 50 BILLION!!!!!!! dollar bail out of GM!!! GM should be out of business!! DONE NO MORE CAN BE SAID!!! I am not a ford, chevy or dodge guy! Dodge should be gone also!! It is sad that GM does not know how to run a company!!!
gasripper2 7 months ago
BOOOOO I wanted 2012 model cars
DeAdiSSu3 8 months ago 55
@DeAdiSSu3 look at when the video was released. that wouldn't have been possible
halo3hello 7 months ago
@halo3hello I know this, I clicked on the video thinking these were 2012 model vehicles. Apparently so did 3 other people lol
DeAdiSSu3 7 months ago
THIS CAMARO GETS SMOKED AND THE SAME WILL HAPPEN TO THE 2012 CAMARO ZL1 THE SHELBY SUPER SNAKE IS GOING TO MURDER IT...
Mr310Westside 9 months ago
@Mr310Westside yeah to bad that car is going to cost over 80 grand if it follows the trend of recent Cobras. Sorry I don't care their is not a justification for the price ford charges for their GT500's and up
TrueTexanPSN1 9 months ago
@TrueTexanPSN1 The Price Will Be Worth It...
Mr310Westside 9 months ago
@TrueTexanPSN1 Seeing as an srt8 will run you over $40k, i'd say a supercharged DOHC v8 with a slightly conservative rating of 550 hp is worth the extra five to seven grand, wouldn't you? The whole super snake thing, well, i'm not a fan of all that, cool package and all but a big waste of money in my opinion, I can make a new Mustang GT just as fast as a super snake for around half the cost of the gt500 w/ super snake package, and it won't be nearly as much of a cop magnet. Lol.
DeAdiSSu3 7 months ago
Lol some of you will NEVER understand ford engine families because your stuck in magazines when most parts are interchangeable. all you have to do is find a great combo because ford gives you the lowest possible parts. The whole point is for you to think and build.....
Speedmccool385bitch 10 months ago
There hasn't been a True Ford production line Boss Mustang since 1970... Just saying. And yes, I know the 2012 Mustang will be a Boss. But it isn't out yet so... It doesn't count.
OrenjiMasamoto 1 year ago
ss 1000000
kboyd415 1 year ago
@jaygeepee1- i agree was there any car in the 60s that could beet the 427 cobra with both of them stalk from the factory .. dont think so but everyone thinks the cobra is english.. the onlything english about it is carol shelby got the body from a aston heley and put a FORD 427 in it.. blew everything away of that day ...
alienworkshoprulez 1 year ago
Why are you dorks always fighting? Ford, Chevy, Mopar..... who gives a fuck. Its about cars, and car people, and running them. You can make big horsepower out of anything you want to build. The key is getting off of the computer and learning how to port your heads, and use tools like big boys. Love the competition, hate the fags with opinions of shit they only hear from people who are actually doing stuff.
woopyass 1 year ago
whatever idiot said ford needs a supercharger to reach 500 when a corvette doesn't to reach 475, the 475 corvette IS supercharged you MORON.
mattstriker20 1 year ago
uhhhhh, there is sucha thing as a ZO6 and thatl make you the MORON
surfing1234 1 year ago
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9388ninethree 1 year ago
@mattstriker20 last i heard about a supercharged vette from factory was pushin 638 hp and 604 trq.... thats a weee bit more than 475 sir.
quiksixx95 1 year ago
ur fuckin stupid
uchooberweare 1 year ago
Ford has the best big blocks
427 SOHC, BOSS 429, 428 cobra jet, 427 tunnelport, 427 high riser, 427 medium riser, 460, 429 scj.
enough said
rebelman108 1 year ago
@rebelman108 someone needs to shit in your face!
ford = crackerjack horsepower
chevy makes the biggest crate motor alive!!!!! 702 ci
and u guys need a fuckn supercharger to make 500 hp the corvettes 427 dnt need shit to get 500 hp ;P
enoguh said bud
surfing1234 1 year ago
@surfing1234 don't need shit except a 7.0L engine. How faggy. Chevy engines suck so bad that the only way they can make power is by over sizing them, yet the new 5.0 out runs the 6.2. Chevy fails. I'd take crackerjack hp over small dick big block hp any day of the week
AllCarsAllTheTime2 1 year ago
@AllCarsAllTheTime2-yeah there 5.0 will beat the 6-2. damn. only took em 40+ years to figure out how to do that... kinda sad.
quiksixx95 1 year ago
@quiksixx95 - Fords always been able to make high HP cars, just chose not to. Fords never been far behind GM or Chrysler, hell GM had to build the 1994 Camaro Z28 to put the 5.0 out of comission. The 5.0 dominated the muscle car circuit from the mid 80's until 1994 with a smaller motor. It hasn't been forty years. Regardless The BIG three need to stop fighting and go out and eat some RICE!!!
JayGeePee1 1 year ago
@JayGeePee1 I'm not sure what 5.0 your talkin about... Shit i had a 3.4 207 cu. in. stock 95 camaro with a glass pack that would stomp 5.0 stangs all day. An 3.4 v6 only puts out 160 at the crank... that was 15 years and 160,000 miles ago. But I do agree with the last part. Everyone should start focusing on getting hondas out of the racing world and back to how it should've always been.
quiksixx95 1 year ago
@JayGeePee1 hahaha
veilsideFD3S 1 year ago
@AllCarsAllTheTime2
lol looks like someones gettn a lil mad haha I build my stuff YOU bought your stuff
HAHA U DNT KNOW WHAT UR TALKING ABOUT
surfing1234 1 year ago
@surfing1234 ya what an awsome excuse hahaha my intelligence is supiror to yours because i said so! i build all my cars cuz i have the videos to back it up!. shut up dude. you didn't prove me wrong either. why is the new 5.0 beating the camaro!? how why? its 1.2L bigger
AllCarsAllTheTime2 1 year ago
@AllCarsAllTheTime2
exactly like that guy said it only took you guys 40 years
surfing1234 1 year ago
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@AllCarsAllTheTime2
exactly like that guy said it only took you guys 40 years
surfing1234 1 year ago
@AllCarsAllTheTime2
i bet u dont
HAH! and thats why
surfing1234 1 year ago
@surfing1234 Folks ignore the troll named “surfing1234” he is a little idiot KID who I know. He is a complete loser in school and cant get any girls to score with him. He parades around thinking he is some "cool hard-core gangsta mac daddy" but he is really just an uncool wannabe who comes here on youtube to talk trash because he is a JOKE when he is in person and not online. He is a total joke, I know him. Just ignore him.
9388ninethree 1 year ago
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@9388ninethree
who the fuck are you even?????
surfing1234 1 year ago
@9388ninethree I agree with you on that one. He has a filthy disrespectful mouth.
SargentBlah 1 year ago
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the934x4 1 year ago
@AllCarsAllTheTime2
In 1967, when chevy came out with the camaro, it had a 295 HP 350. Then, the ford Mustang GT had a 335hp 390cid. The four speed camaro did 0-60 in 8 seconds and the quarter mile in 15.4 at 90 mph-directly comparable to the Mustang so I'd say small cubic inch chevies have the upper hand.The chevy 302 z/28 had a 7500rp, shift point and a 140mph top speed, and besides that Big Blocks have gobs of torque over small blocks.
the934x4 1 year ago
@rebelman108 You said that right and there 302 is BAD ASS
PrestigeGamingHD 1 year ago
The Boss 429 was a limited run speedway motor, standing start acceleration was poor, and the first run from the factory was built with incorrect valve springs(typical ford) and stopped winding at 4800 rpm, 400 rpm before peak power was made. The 454 LS6 in the 70' Chevelle had the highest factory horespower rating during the muscle car era at 450hp, and even weighing in at 4000lbs, was .7 of a second quicker to 60 and .3 of a second faster in the quarter than the 3,800lb mustang 429.
the934x4 1 year ago
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the934x4 1 year ago
@rebelman108 Not to mention the 426 Hemi, the darling of all the critics. It made an actual 500hp, where the CJ 428, with 2" more displacement and higher compression, made only 410 actual horespower(factory rated at 335hp) The 68 Charger Hemi, which is 4300lbs, is .1 quicker to 60 and .3 quicker and 5mph faster in the quarter than the 3600lb Mustang CJ. Not to mention it was a lethargic engine, unlike free reving chevy. Enough Said
the934x4 1 year ago
im a die hard ford man and i dont wanna take nothing away from the modular motors but that when ford fucked there performance motors up
StangBang010 2 years ago
ford made the move to mod motors to save money. they needed a motor that could go in just about all of their cars and trucks with little change done to the assy line!
braddfordy 2 years ago
Oh yea and another thing,what cars in that year was pushing hp #'s like these two beasts?........."Supercars" So people stop saying they arent, there is a reason that they were NOT massed produced and made for the streets.Put a stock "Supercar" next to em' on the strip and see how the race turns out. In fact there's quote un qoute Supercars today that are only 500hp that sell for way over$100,000. Love them are hate them these are really 2 BAD CARS!!
youngdre04 2 years ago
DAMN UR GOOD i like u
cjh134414 2 years ago
93549john1,kickinbuttalot you are both right and i agree with you. I admit im a pro-Ford guy but i am not fully biased Chevy makes some quality cars too,and what everyone sees here are two completely RIDICULOUSLY AWESOME CARS. I am not a big Camaro guy, unless we talking 68's and classics like them(the 2010 ones are pretty cool too),but both Chevy AND Ford made two street killing machines. People complain about prices?This is what 02' cars pushing 700hp out the box, come on! Im American muscle!
youngdre04 2 years ago
severo2012;ford 2000 cobra r 5.4 all motor retired the 2002 camaro.
93549john1 2 years ago 2
@93549john1 Thats a cobra r. which if im not mistaken is a special edition of a mustang. Take a hennessy camaro or a lingenfelter trans am an pin it up against that cobra r and see what happens. I met a guy on woodward in michigan who had a lingenfelter trans am just like it came from them that would eat up anything all day.
quiksixx95 1 year ago
no the is a boss 429
93549john1 2 years ago
isnt gm owned by the government cause they cant compete
kickinButtAlot 2 years ago 2
@kickinButtAlot
you're just mad because your mom and dad never bought you a pony... Fairy.
bachwacker 2 years ago
ford was close to it also....
MANDOMAN8806 2 years ago
holy shit
baddest camaro ever built
ZL1 camaro 600hp
isnt the boss a blown 302?
lilmarv08 2 years ago
Ford can't keep up without a blower? Well then the camaro can't keep up without a ridiculously sized engine. Who cares if the Mustang has a super charger? Your arguement is completely arbitrary. Ford actually listens to customers and the economy. The bottom line is that the camaro is a completely impratical piece of garbage made by a garbage company. Thats why nobody bought them and they got discontinued. That is why GM declared bankruptcy and the Government had to bail them out.
kett5180 2 years ago 2
HEY John Coletti Lead the team that came up with the infamous 03-04 terminator cobras
Sforschondetta 2 years ago
in my opinion the fact that ford keeps running small motors that cant keep up againt the 5.7 350 all star motor...im a ford guy and i wish they would bring back the 351c which would even up the playing field between mustang and camaro in an all motor race...
whiski3tango17 2 years ago
why not a 351w?
lilmarv08 2 years ago
well what are you talking about,i might be able to answer your question. im a big fan of the 6.8,i know alot.
corvettkiller666 2 years ago
typical...when chevy has a car running ALL MOTOR! ford has to tag along with a fucking supercharger to keep up. ford does not have a single car in product that runs all motor that will beat a 12 year old camaro Z28 with the ls1. what chance will they have at beating a ls7 z06 on all motor? probly never lol Chevy don't play like pussys they run all motor like men should!
severo2012 2 years ago
What are you talking about Severo?
This Mustang is not supercharged!
Also "all motor that can beat a LS1 Camaro"
Umm the 2011 Mustang. 5.0L making 400HP/400TRQ (all engine).
elsosome 2 years ago
Then why is the new Corvette ZR1, that all the Youtube Chevy fans keep crowing about, supercharged? Are the GM engineers 'playing like pussies' or are you just an ignorant dumb fuck? Methinks that it is most definitely the latter.
famapublica 2 years ago 2
The Ford GT is supercharged, bud.
scamper246 2 years ago
I saw the video and owned the C&D magazine with this article, noe real winner since both cars had problems, the camaro coudn't best the mustang in the 1/4 mile before it broke and fixed its rear end. The stang lost oil pressure on the road test and lost. The thing that made the mustang win in my mind was the astonishing 0-60 time of 1.9 seconds and a burn out that left a pile of rubber burning on the ground.
Looptydude 2 years ago
wtf?! was this video taken with a cell phone?
40ozToFreedom420 2 years ago
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None of the cars won. Both cars broke. My dad is the one with the gapp & roush jacket. He helped build the mustang.
1BADDUK 2 years ago
The ZL1 is still going on. the GMMG models that is.
acetheheretic 2 years ago
So what was the result?..I'm pretty sure the Camaro won.
SuperColossal33 2 years ago
i see some educated posters and it makes me happy... no highschool garbage so far. I love chevy ok? but I love for more :D I just bought an 03 cobra and I wouldnt trade it even for a zr1... dumb as that sounds I am dead seriouse.
bluecapone 2 years ago
its a love thing. i drive a Z28 that i wouldn't trade even for a GT500
padrinoel 2 years ago 2
that chevy sure is one hell've a car! Found On Road Dead!
572blownhemi 2 years ago
hey!! fordsvt1313...............why dont u STFU no one gives a shit what u gotta say.
straightoutthe727 2 years ago
argueing on the internet is like running in the special olympics even if you win your still retarded ... lmao
johnbeshers 2 years ago
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Seems kind of retarded to compare the two worst car manufacturers, but Ford vs Toyota wouldn't be fair I guess... Whats more, "brand is the refuge of the ignorant".
Kevitivity 2 years ago
quality sucks
importsstillsuck 2 years ago
im an F-body guy, but the real ford vs chev camparo would be between the mustang and corvette, camaro is chevys #2.
rawnie79 2 years ago
Not at all. The Camaro is in the same range as the Mustang. Ford's high end cars like the GT would be comparable to the Vette.
K3vinK 2 years ago
i dont agree. how often do you see a GT40 on the street? i have seen just 1 to the countless #s of corvettes. the comparo should be between the best cars that were produced in large #s. how many GT40s sold in the past few years vs vettes?
rawnie79 2 years ago
It doesn't matter if you don't agree. The Mustang GT is simply not in the same league as the 60-100k Vette.
However, they do make HIGH END Mustangs that are a lot faster than the GT that you might compare it with if it's in the same price range.
Hell GM is almost pricing itself out of the range with the new Camaro. The same people that bought the Camaro back in 2002, wont be able to afford it in 2010.
K3vinK 2 years ago
that is what i was trying to say, if they made alot of those high end mustangs they should be compared to the vette of similar price. i dont think the gt40 would be fair. wait till GM dreams up some wild super car to rival it that 1 in million people will own then compare those 2.
rawnie79 2 years ago
i guess the zr1 camaro would be that wild super car, 100,000+ for sure, i dont know the price of the gt40 but im betting its high, a comparison between those 2 would be great.
rawnie79 2 years ago
Only if they made a GT40 this year. And they didn't. It's not really fair to compare TODAY'S model of Vette with a car Ford made a few years ago now is it?
K3vinK 2 years ago
i did not know that they stopped the GT40.
rawnie79 2 years ago
But you specifically said "GT" That is what I was arguing against. The Mustang GT is not, I repeat, not in the same league as the Vette. You get a Mustang in the 60-100k range and then you can compare.
K3vinK 2 years ago
i ment GT40, sorry. the GT40 could be compared to the new zr1 vette.
rawnie79 2 years ago
So you both know, the new version is called the Ford GT. It's the new version of the old GT40.
Secondly, Mustangs are meant to compete with the Fbody (Camaro/Firebird). Just because they quit making them doesn't mean the Mustang is all of a sudden in the Corvette class. No, it's still out to compete with other 4/5 seater cars.
iceguy2003 2 years ago
In my opinion, You compare cars that are close to each other hp to weight ratio. Mustangs generally weigh 3,900lbs corvettes are roughly around 3,200. This is just a different class. Mustangs are muscle cars just like the Dodge Challenger and Charger. Corvettes are more in the "supercar" category.
branden1979 2 years ago 13
@branden1979 no corvettes are in the plastic classic class LOL!!!
scooterdude1945 1 year ago
@branden1979 this isnt a corvette.. its a camaro
Brazilianjj 11 months ago
@branden1979
Mustang GT currently weights around 3,600 lbs and no where near 3,900 lbs.
The GT 500 weighs 3,800 and the Boss 302 weighs less than the Mustang GT.
FordGTGuy 6 months ago
@FordGTGuy: When I was talking about 3900lbs, I was talking about the GT500. I don't even consider the mustang GT a high performance car. And the boss 302 didn't even exist 2 years ago when I made that comment.
V8Supercar1 6 months ago
@branden1979 Agree totaly, a better comparison would be a Ford GT, Viper and Corvette
LuricRaja2 6 months ago
@branden1979 ok, thats why its a mustang vs a camaro, not a vette, camaros destroy stangs, and a high end car like a vette, would probably destroy a camaro... well stock to stock atleast
XcopeXtwocansam 5 months ago
@XcopeXtwocansam: Let me start off by saying that personally, I like mustangs, camaros, and Challengers equally. I'm an american, I don't favor one american brand over the other. (Especially when the europeans are sitting back pointing and laughing at the american effort to build high quality cars). But I wouldn't say that camaros kill mustangs. There has got to be some reason why mustangs are the best selling sports cars in U.S. history.
V8Supercar1 5 months ago
@V8Supercar1 best selling because theyve always been more affordable nothing more
DiErVoNmAnE 3 months ago
@V8Supercar1 1)a challenger is german. all of mopar was bought out by mercedes-benz, and it is literally "imported from detroit" 2) camaros really do kill, because i own a 2010 V6 and i am beating GTs :P the reason they are more popular is because its a chick car, and statistics show you see more women in mustangs. and there are more women in the US. also, people like the fact that its a customizable collectible american car. which explains all the aftermarket brands JUST FOR mustang.
JDYDesigns 3 months ago
@JDYDesigns its all about the driver mod ......i have beatin v6 camaro's in my 96gt before my PI swap even though he had some 100hp over me, strictly cause they couldnt drive so i commend you on beating any 05-10 gt with a decent driver ..... camaro's arent all that great ...i had a 95 and just could get with it .....drop the 2010 and the interior was like that of my 96gt cheap .....but the mustang was 15 years old ....
mrjesuschrist2u 1 month ago
@JDYDesigns newer v-6 mustangs are quicker and out handle the v6 camaro. The ss gets beat by the newer gt so the v6 camaro would get destroyed by it.
ChallengerGuy22 4 weeks ago
similarly priced with the new mustang, and cheaper than the challenger
SuperColossal33 2 years ago
If you consider about 10k difference similar..
K3vinK 2 years ago
chevys=junk
FRDMAN27 2 years ago
i would take camaro here, always faster stock anyways.
metalmaniac21 3 years ago
Ford will smoke a shitty any day ohhh excuse me i meant chevy! Ooopps. :)
ilovemymutzy 3 years ago
any chevy will smoke a shitstang i mean rustang.
LGDE569 2 years ago
of course everyone is gonna talk shit about eachother if u were a ford guy youd hate chevy if you were a chevy guy you would hate ford why dont you people ever stop bitching
FordSVT1313 2 years ago 12
@FordSVT1313 i'm a ford guy and i don't hate chevy, i actually like the ss, if i had a deeper pocket i would have it too. i just hate people who talk shit over "unofficial stats" and stupid shit like that. both are good cars, both cars have their pros and both have their cons. problem is the opposite manufacture buyer only sees the cons in the other car. i just hate shit talkers
asdfghjkl47154 1 year ago
@asdfghjkl47154 exactly personally i like my body style cobra but the ss is sick as hell. If you had enough money for both you could make them as fast as you please but no one gets that these days
FordSVT1313 1 year ago
@FordSVT1313 true, it's not chevy vs ford vs dodge anymore...it used to be 30 years ago. but now it's chevy,ford, dodge vs. dumbass teenagers who decide to spend all their money into a slow shitty import, ricing it out as much as they can, and thinking you can go fast just because you have a huge spoiler on the ass end. thats where this concentration of competetiveness needs to be going to
asdfghjkl47154 1 year ago
@FordSVT1313 Umm tradition I guess
scooterdude1945 1 year ago
@FordSVT1313 we need to concentrate on smoking ricers
FutureMarine246 1 year ago
@FordSVT1313 well apparently you like ford jut look at your name jaja
jorgeosojuarez 1 year ago
@jorgeosojuarez I like both to be honset i have a 98 cobra and just picked up a 99 Z28 i was stating a fact not a personal opinion
FordSVT1313 1 year ago
@FordSVT1313
because they are rivals, and this is the reason why Ford's and Chevy's become do popular, us. It's up to you to choose what side you want to be on.
GamingPalooza 1 year ago
@FordSVT1313 lmao because we are dumb
JW1990able 11 months ago
i watched this a few years ago they both had cheater motors in them.. Both had big blocks
Brentelec 3 years ago
What was the horsepower on both cars?
acetheheretic 3 years ago
zl1 has atleast 650h.p stock
kaseycoleman93 3 years ago
wtf is that tire advantage given to the ford.
89silverbullet 3 years ago
Because Ford doesnt have to throw a 6.0 in EVERY single vehicle they make. They can get power out of anything.
Kooly1 3 years ago 2
exactly my point lol well said!
craigpig123 3 years ago
with super chargers? so do imports
cholodesanfe87 3 years ago
because a 302 boss can beat a 454 motor the boss is designed for performance and mods you can give a 302 boss 1800 hp thats pretty freakin good for a small motor
cobraopts7 3 years ago
the mustang had a 10.0 litre Boss 429 engine
bluethunderhorse 2 years ago
umm no in part two it said 598 not 429
cobraopts7 2 years ago
It's a 1969 boss 429 engine that has been bored and stroked to a 598 or 10 litres how ever you want the car is now in jack roush's collection
bluethunderhorse 2 years ago
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That Mustang is going to get whooped. The ZL-1 is way better.
MasterChiefZ28 3 years ago
How the hell does a Boss mustang compare to a ZL-1?
TiKondaRoga 3 years ago
only ford
jorge1617 3 years ago 2
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Yah...only Ford would be that stupid to try and compare the two.
TiKondaRoga 3 years ago