Is your Creator better than the ugly God? Does the Creator think any better of you for questioning? Judge for yourself.
The Creator has posted a video on YouTube. The message comes to you directly, without the need for transcription or interpretation by iron-age scribes, or analysis by Stephen Hawking.
The video tells you how you came to be here, outlines the meaning and purpose of your life, and gives you an insight into the future of humankind.
your experience strikes me as similar to mine .... Buddhism is of interest to me at the moment ....but that is because it is self improvement and understanding , again a good video ! and I can easily relate to your points we have much in common ! best wishes to you and your family :) be happy :)
Sir I have to ask what it is that you do for a living. You speak of physics, biology, cosmology, etc. so thoughtfully that I can't really determine what it is you do.
If the is a cause of the universe. If this cause has a personality. If this cause is the most brilliant the most beautiful wonderful and powerful thing that could ever exist. If we call this God;
Then why do you (Christians and Muslims) insult him on a daily basis by accusing him of the crime of writing such a disgusting piece of drivel?
I seem to think much more of God than Christians or Muslims do...
A truly moving speach. I like the way it is shown. It took a while for me to be certain that it is actually recorded while you performed this monologue.
Your eyes look tired, and as if you are slighty sad, possibly about ending some peoples beliefs.
Invalid argument by whomever is speaking in the video. His argument, as I'm hearing it, is thus: "I'm not missing out on an experience (Christian description of God's love) because you're missing out on something I am experiencing (the love of two gods). The conclusion does not logically follow from his initial proposition.
He has essentially spent 6 minutes saying nothing of intellectual value =/
@Westyjr9000 when making comparisons with the bible and playing on their level "spent 6 minutes saying nothing of intellectual value =/" is all you can expect :D
He basically returned the love that religion stole precisely back where it needed to be for those intelligent enough to get it ;)
You missed to pint of the video, which is perfectly normal. It's an elusive concept that many poeple struggle with for their entire lives.
He's basically saying that the "religious experience", the euphoric sense of oneness with the universe and god is inherent in all of us. We are all capable of experiencing it. But without context it can be a terrifying feeling, and religion gives it context
If god is real then it is so much more, infinitely so, than the god of the bible.
u missed the point entirely..the love isn't from any god at all..the love is from the human mind. the human mind projects its love unto the universe and receives it back in the form of a god.
I think the truth is as far as are awareness goes. When we are aware there is truth. When we aren't there isn't. The truth is to each and only each. We simply share assumptions and even this comment from me to you. From this, our truth changes rapidly every day from the moment we are consciously aware. Assumptions are the problem with belief... not religion. Assumptions are found in Atheism as well as theism. Proof needs a miracle of a definition if we are to fully ever establish anything.
@fntime The ego (though you don't define it) has a single main property of impulsiveness, to which all other attributes are secondary. Rationality and intellect are rest in the prefrontal cortex as our most evolved portion of the brain, where as the limbic system and other areas lower on the brainstem are more primitive and impulsive. So when you say ego is the product of an intelligent mind, it's not only false, but the inverse is true. Only an intelligent mind can control the ego.
@Dirge987 I really have alot more on this. If you'd like to talk more about this send me an e-mail. I don't think your reasoning is wrong. But, I don't think you are correct, based on my intellect and my personal experience. I'm more than willing to give you an explaination but, it might require more than 100 words. We'd both require agreement on words. I have no interest in trying to convince you that I'm right about this. But, I will explain my process, then you can evaluate. Best!
@fntime The problem I have is your statement "based on MY intellect and personal experience", as if your intellect and anecdotal evidence is correct simply because you think it is. If this idea of the ego is your personal belief, then you're welcome to it, but don't state such things as absolute fact like you did a few lines down. You can say "I believe" to anything you wish, and I have no problems with that, but you can't say ego is whatever it is as fact just because you believe so.
@fntime Secondly, while you assume a great deal about the "mind", you probably have little knowledge about the brain. The terms you use are incredibly generalized, like "the ego is the creation of the intellectual combining with the will of the lower brain." What does that even mean? You didn't define ego, or "intellectual" or "lower brain". I've met a lot of pseudoscientists that use the same method of vague generalized terms that mean next to nothing when they're really scrutinized.
@fntime You keep saying we have to define our words, but you still haven't defined those words. Again, reductionist program, as if that means anything. You're only speaking new age pseudoscience. This isn't a battle of opposites, this is you making a claim of fact based only on your feelings. I take grievance with that. If you said it was your personal belief, then I wouldn't have said anything. But if you said things are absolute fact because you imagined it, then it's your ego controlling you.
@Dirge987 You have a logic problem.You start with a conclusion & then look for the correct premises to prove your conclusion. If you'd like to continue this,e-mail me, but I think a public forum is playing into YOUR ego. You need to prove me wrong. You are in the 2 of 7 stages of life, the 3rd cycle within the 2nd stage. Your approach is consistent with that. You are probably a bright fellow, but, your arguments are not orginal! 'there are more things under heaven & earth...' Hamlet
@fntime Tell me, what conclusion have I come to? All I've stated are the classic fallacies and tactics that pseudoscientists use when trying to defend their fallacious ideas that you've used. Changing the subject, for one, is another tactic. Then there're the life stages that you showhorn me into, when you don't know who I really am. Now that's an assumption. Finally, I don't need to prove you wrong, since you can never prove a negative. YOU need to prove your point, which you haven't done.
@fntime I will accept when I'm wrong. All intelligent people, people that you claim have ego's controlling them, incorporate new ideas and rely not on their personal beliefs. You seem to have come to conclusions based on your feelings, assumptions, ideas that you state and don't support. If there really is an ego, it thrives when beliefs are asserted as fact. If you believe that human intellect is driven by the ego, then fine, believe it, but don't say it's a fact. That is ego at work.
@fntime If anything, and if the ego truly exists, the human intellect is the only thing that can really defeat it. The intellect allows people to understand when they're wrong and why, motivating them to reject the old and wrong ideas for new and correct ones. That requires some kind of personal critique - something the ego doesn't want. Belief and faith are nothing more than product of the ego - the need to be right.
"ALL the gods love me...just as long as I believe in them first. Odd, eh?"
Not my deity, the Gargantuan Frog of Despair is more mature and more reasonable.
Verse 1 of the gospel states that the Creator (GFOD) doesn't mind if you don't worship it, as it has provided no proof of it's existence, to mind would be rude and unreasonable.
You put religious people on a pedestal because you have an inferiority complex. You are jealous because when I die, I will be carried off by Valkyries and taken to Valhalla to drink, eat, womanize, and fight for all of eternity.
Isaiah8:20"To the Law and to the prophecy:if they speak not according to this word,it because there is no light in them."Psalm119:105"your Law is a lamp to our feet,and a light to our path."this is why there is so much chaos in the world because people are being told "put down that book"if you would follow the 613 Laws of peace'thou shall not kill"thou shall not steathou shall not covet" one Law for native born and for the stranger, but no people want to do what they want and put away that book
Genisis 15:9-10 Animal sacrifice makes God feel better. Exodus: God kills the children of Egyptians who had nothing to do with Moses. 4:14 - God directly makes Pharoh callous, helps to justify said generation-cide. 5:13 - "The Lord is a man of WAR". Later helps Moses commit genocide against everyone in would-be Israel. Genesis 11:7-9 and 1 Corinthians 1:27 God is a trickster, and the author of confusion.
And "Don't steal/kill" was already in older law codexes, so God is a copyright thief.
So, yes, I do feel that people would be better off following their own morality, instead of discarding their own capacity to feel empathy, for the babbling, blood-lusting, power-hungry, egotistical propaganda tales of bronze-age warlords seeking external justification for their crimes against humanity.
Perhaps, just maybe, they actual did have some twinges of morality telling them what they were doing was wrong-- but rather than admit it, they made shit up to make themselves feel better.
My experiences were very similar. I went from Christianity to Hinduism to Buddhism to Taoism, and then I realised that God had become so abstract for me that I might as well call myself an atheist.
No, The Bible is a great book of liturature, poetry, philosophy, and heavily interpreted history. The only problem is in thinking it's all litraly true. I think any book would cause problems if Billions considered it all to be literaly true.
Christians should focus on the new testament. But that's hard because "you have to love your neighbor as yourself" and "you have to do unto others and you would have them do unto you." You cannot judge the prostitutes and you definitely would not be able to throw the first stone" And the parables of Christ speak of the "Good Samaritan (the heathen) who gets to go to heaven and not the High priest or Local Big Wig." Christianity has degenerated to where it will not satisfy intellectuals.
I hear:"Jesus loves you Jesus loves you"...but I thought they wanted me to believe in god. How can I worship two guys? How can I worship someone and not be allowed to behave like him? People have tried to be god but were labeled "evil". How come my love must be credited to him? What debt did he pay for us? It seems like he's still asking us to pay! ..and if not we'll have to pay some more! He is a loanshark
Being an Atheist means more than being a Theist ever could. Atheists, like myself, are free to consider the possibility that there may be something greater out that that surpasses all religious bigotry, whilst having the strength to know that even if there isn't, then that's ok too, because the beauty of existence is more than enough to captivate us
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I agree with almost everything you said, except the claim that the Bible is a childish book. If you put away all the god stuff from the Bible you'll still have a lot of valuable literature from wich a lot of artists drained they're ideas and motives. I mean that without the Bible we wouldn't have a Sistine Chapel, and sculptures of David and Moses by Michelangelo, nor would we have The Last Supper by Da Vinci, and so on... So just don't call it a childish book and i'll be satisfied.
You would say it's primitive, i would say that it's adequate to the time that it's written in. There is genuine and valuable art in the Book. Science has beaten the Bible in every point a long time ago but the art stays, and it's not primitive, that's all i'm trying to say. The only thing wrong with that book is that people believe in what it sais, although 2000 years have passed and we now know what they couldn't know. The only thing that is primitive are those people.
@fear416 Couldnt have said it better myself :) Exactly that.. At the time it was written, we didnt have science in the form we have it today.. In those times, it was impossible to know wether Earth was round or that the sky is not the limit.. like they believed back then.. Im just staggered at how much people believe even today in all the stuff the Bible is saying and blindly dismiss every logical and scientific proof that has been brought up "against" it.. Thats so sad..
@Unknnnnn Usually, when people talk about the "sidom" in the Bible, they are talking about the Sermon on the Mount and similar passages. You can find a good critique of the Sermon at ironchariots . org / index.php?title=Sermon_on_the_Mount
Yes, of course there are horrific things. But you wouldn't say that Dante's inferno is not art would you? Why do we debate about this? The Bible is a source of inspiraton for artists even today... Would the art be different without it? Of course it would... But we can't change history now can we? :)
@fear416 self contradiction, talking snakes, talking donkeys, begat, after begat,after begat, after begat, after begat, after begat, after begat, after begat, the demonstrably false claims, the far fetched extroadinary claims that defy logic and are no more then hearsay written many many years after the alleged event. the immorral teachings, the petty human like depiction of a so called supreme being, superstitious rituals, blatent plagerism of older myths....... , im running out of room here
The first thing that went through my mind when i read your description was: "Oh, that sounds like the Harry Potter serial." :) It is 2000 years old, you can't really expect it to bee a scientific examination of the big bang can you? But dude, people that were a lot smarter then you drained inspiration from the Bible and created masterpieces. When you write a book that will be a long lasting source of inspiration to other artists then you can call the Bible retarded...
@fear416 As far as all these great works of art are concerned, remember that it was usually the church's that comissioned many of them. The artists went where the money was.
@fear416 Just think how much better the art could have been if it was not inspired by ugly and superstitious Hebrew mythology. You don't really believe that those artists would just have spent their lives in gay bars if it wasn't for the Bible, do you?
If it would not have been infulenced by the Hebrew mythology it would have been by the Roman or maybe some other monotheistic religion... Because religion is power and there is no way there would have been no religion at all... It came out to be what it came out to be and we can't change that... All we can do is appreciate it for what it is...
Of course you can.... and many artists did troughout the history... all im saying is that art was influenced by religion and it would have been with or without the Bible... the result of that specific influence are many masterpieces and that is just a fact...
@fear416 It is a fact of no real relevance. It does not demonstrate that a particular religion is true or that religion makes artists inspired, all it shows is that when religion dominates artists are paid to produce religious art. All I can say is thank goodness not every artist was solely absorbed (voluntarily or by the efforts of sponsors and patrons) by religion so we can have some art that everybody can like.
Why can't an artist be inspired by the Bible? It really doesn't matter if its true or not, if you believe or not.... the stories have all the drama, sci-fi and action you could ever want... and if you put the god stuff out you have some nice ethics packed in metaphors too... i really don't understand why can't the Bible be a good inspiration source...
If Jesus was real... aside from being dellusional about being god's son he was a damn smart person and knew shit about ethics that were way ahead of their time... So when i talk about ethics in the Bible i talk about Jesus' teachings...
@fear416 What ethical gems are these? He said divorce doesn't work and if people remarry they are adulterers. Is that the ethical breakthrough? Or perhaps it was reverse queuing: the first shall be last and the last shall be first. Or maybe it was the cult-like destruction of families if people refused to accept that he was the son of God. Or perhaps the simple ethic of giving away all your money to the poor or else frying for eternity. Which did you have in mind?
Jesus wanted people to drop their arrogance, and their big ego, and their lust for power and money... If he did that by frightening them that if they wouldn't do that they would be eternaly fucked im totally okay with it... I don't know if he was the son of god or not but i like his style..
If he wasn't the son of God he was a man who lied to scare people. And if he was the son of God we're all fucked because there is no way out, if you're born you either spend eternity in hell and eternal torture for finite "sins" or you have to spend eternity in a so-called heaven with the monster who could create hell, the only being whose actions could logically justify being sent to it.
Im not a fuckwit, human arrogance and lust for power is something that rules the world today and that just totally fucked up and it shouldn't be that way.. and im talking mostly about the elite people.. people in ruling positions and just rich people.. that's why i like what Jesus talks about.. they should burn in some kind of hell... look, we can just go on and on with this but i don't think our discussion is going anywhere... but it's nice to have one like that on youtube...
@fear416 Yes, the Bible has indeed inspired a great lot of literature, art & music. So what. So have all the other mythologies of the world. The Bible, in my absolutely non-humble opinion, is one of the most absolutely overrated books ever produced.
@fear416 Have you considered that perhaps we would still have the artist, and there works, but that there works would simply carry a diferant name, and be of other things, rather than fictional characters in a "holy" book?
@fear416 i would rather trade those things to get rid of the dark ages and inquisition and the other things which would have no happened without that book
@Xunkun Once again I try and vote someone up and nothing happens, can anyone explain this?
I feel the whole credibility of all 3 main monotheistic religions is totally undermined by the simple concept that the unbeliever will either be excluded from heaven, or worse, condemned to an eternal hell.
@fear416 Well then the other side of the story is true as well. Without this book, million of people wouldn't have died fighting for their lives for a God that in all probability doesn't exist. All these works of art only serve as a monument, however beautiful, to the stupidity of man.
You can`t understand god!not either to expleined!you just only try to feel it!god is not a person,it`s not a personality!maybe it is an inner reality,a flow situation its the purpose and the reazon,but this not the point,anyway.
Maybe my favorite Philhellenes video. I've asked my Christian friends how they can read the Bible and not feel guilt for believing that their god is such a horrible entity--for attributing (if an omniscient creator did exist) the worst of human characteristics--genocide, slavery, thought crime, racism, rape, child abuse, to name a few of "God's" actions or actions he condoned--to the creator of everything...to one who has all the knowledge of the universe--those are the things he is focused on.
You are being absurd. My mind does not need to obey your self-denying ordinances. I have made my prediction, that when / if we make contact with another intelligent species we will find they have within their number individuals maintaining a religious culture. That's as far as this can go so that is where the speculation ends. This is the extrapolations of basic concepts of evolution and memetics. To go beyond that point ceases to have any connection with science and becomes sheer imagination.
I think that those of faith are missing a great deal as well. Those with a willingness to interpret information and seek truth while being open-minded to all relevant facts will seek a more understanding truth.
anyone feeling that I am mistaken..have you considered the perspectives of the several hundred other religions which differ from Christianity? if you haven't...how can you say with certainty yours is right and theirs is wrong?
I know a little about percentages and so far one that strikes me as odd is
Percentages of world religions studied by members...
Christianity 33%
All others 66%
humm....is it odd for me to find it odd that , Moses, Mary, Joseph, peter and the others are only believed to exists to 1/3 of the world? not good odds to play in terms of eternity.
@destin325 Your figures are hopelessly wide of the mark. There are somewhere in the order of 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars (plus or minus one order of magnitude) in the universe. Many of these will have planets. We can presume that many of those will have life, intelligent life and superstitious life (because superstition will always get at least a few millennia head start on reason). These lifeforms will invent gods too. There's probably more postulated gods than Christians.
thats a lot of guess work with no supporting evidence. Im with you because it doesnt make sense to think that WE are the only life forms ...but I wouldnt go outside of youtube and talk about aliens and alien Gods (save yoruself the ridicule)
@destin325 It's too late for that. I went public on this years ago. Look up Willett's Wager. Of course it is all conjecture, we only have a sample of one planet and one religious species but that doesn't stop us speculating and making out our cases.
....historically, those that followed speculations were typically lost, uneducated, and gullible.
the world is flat
the moon is a disc
God is behind that meteor and you can get to him by cutting your nuts off and drinking this poison potion.\
im not saying there arent any other life forms that are intelligent but there are thousands of men and women that do search for a living....ill leave it up to them to find rather than guesstimate
@destin325 Who is following a speculation here? I mere suggest that if there are other intelligences out there then they must have evolved or been designed by those which have evolved and they must have entered a period of superstition and I WAGER at least some of them will never have left it regardless of how advanced or intelligent their species is. It's a hypothesis. It's also a bet. It's not an article of faith. Thinking is allowed you know. So is speculating and wagering.
speculation should also evolve into a testable hypothesis. I can speculate that the moon is made of milk but since you know its not, that would be useless. I speculate that the earth is flat! but??? when i walk i never fall off? so.... it must be very far but??? i can get so far that i cant see where i started ..so.. its really really far but??? if i keep going, i get to where i started so... i now speculate that the earth is ROUND!
I love the way you actually tried to sound the Universe as finite, as this as not yet been proven.
Assuming the universe is infinite is much funnier in this situation, seeing as a chance on a million is nothing in comparison to something that has no know end
Though I prefer saying another form of life will let reason have the headstart
@Xgya2000 Infinity is an invention of mathematicians.
Myth will always have the head start on science as making shit up and threatening people until they act as though they accept your explanations is much easier than discovering the true nature of reality.
I am a believer in God, and have had, and do have that experience of closeness and communication with God. I consider myself a rational person, and value that trait. These experiences don't occur outside of my rational sense. Their content isn't the same as yours. There are things you've said about your experience that don't strike me as particularly rational, but interesting nonetheless. How do you, 4 yourself, verify the source of the communications, would be a question I might ask you.
@AlRasuwl Lincoln didn't sacrifice his son, his son was saved by booths brother, ironically enough. And the answer you're going for is 'no, you pretentious fucktard, I love my son dearly, go play with GLaDOS and her stupid companion cube'
It's interesting to note that when god told Abraham he was going to destroy the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, Abraham argued with god against that action, and finally struck a compromise. However, Abraham didn't protest when god told Abraham to kill his own son.
If I'm feeling the love of two totally different Gods
Then could it be....."
Anything "could be"
Love is a subjective interpretation of natural causal effect events. It is an idea that isn't factually true. Simply a subjective interpretation.
Meaning is an organized set of beliefs handed down in books. This individual has his own religion like all humans based on those indoctrinated interpretations of natural causal effect events.
I can report that this is a verbatim account of my exact experience and that of many others. This refutes the idea that atheism is as characerised by the religious, the act of waging unjustifiable war against perfection, an expression of a fallen spirit. My atheism bases itself on deep and protracted introspection, having sought God with all my faculties, having ceaselessly investigated this universe, having scrutinised the evidence, I was genuinely disappointed to learn that God does not exist.
I find it ironic that the religious who look down upon the non-religious seem to have this view that they have a drive to understand the universe whereas those that they criticize wish to live in ignorance.
The irony is that those who choose to be non-religious for intellectual reasons in fact came to those conclusion BECAUSE they had a drive to understand the universe, and they discovered that starting with the assumption of a personal God leads to conclusions shrouded in ignorant acceptance.
It's too true... I support the viewpoint you mention, and feel like my thirst for knowledge just condemns me in the eyes of the clergy. I don't think an all-knowing god would condemn you for trying to learn more about his presence.
Presumably lol, if God was around BEFORE the universe, was he bored one day?, or did he just feel lonely and decided to make a massive universe so that he could make these things that will love him, well, he made it so only some love him and some don`t, then made two afterlives for us, heaven and hell, just his little game he likes to play or what? My question to thiests is...WHY? why did he bother doing ANY of it? what does HE get out of it? whats it`s purpose, the reason for it?
The Jesus myth was plagiarized from the old story of Osiris and Isis. Details were skewed to fit the Christ myth, but that's where it came from. It's a borrowed concept older than Christianity. Nearly as old as mankind. Don't be a sucker
to may fullfilled prophesies, miracles, signs, eyewitness all fit together to give a perfect picture of the Truth. you see the Truth is not something it is somebody and His name is JESUS!
Truth? What truth? I find it extremely hypocritical how a Theist can use the words "Man made" and "Delusion" to describe atheist. God is man made, and you my friend are delusional.
Actually, there is enough evidence (If you are willing to actually probe into it) that the big bang is factual. There is a brief explanation by the maker of this video if you have a look through his posts. Regardless, the question will always be, if God created the universe, who created god. Did he just appear one day. Was he always there, even longer than 13.7 billion years ago before the universe was created. My guess = probably not, no.
hurrr you gaytheists are wrong with your commie evolution hurrrr....
ooohpie 2 weeks ago
Is your Creator better than the ugly God? Does the Creator think any better of you for questioning? Judge for yourself.
The Creator has posted a video on YouTube. The message comes to you directly, without the need for transcription or interpretation by iron-age scribes, or analysis by Stephen Hawking.
The video tells you how you came to be here, outlines the meaning and purpose of your life, and gives you an insight into the future of humankind.
See ' God says sorry. '
lacontrabasse 1 month ago
your experience strikes me as similar to mine .... Buddhism is of interest to me at the moment ....but that is because it is self improvement and understanding , again a good video ! and I can easily relate to your points we have much in common ! best wishes to you and your family :) be happy :)
dooksization 3 months ago
If you open with the feminine pronoun, you can get a good acronym.
She,
He,
It, or
They...
;)
Keovar 6 months ago
Sir I have to ask what it is that you do for a living. You speak of physics, biology, cosmology, etc. so thoughtfully that I can't really determine what it is you do.
imreloadin2 7 months ago
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It takes two to tango.
freedeanna 7 months ago
At least I know when I am talking to myself
rdvqc 7 months ago
i love paradoxes here's one.
This sentence is false.
wtfuwant100 7 months ago
@wtfuwant100
Paradoxes just show the faults in the concept.
Words are extremely faulty, and can mean their opposites depending on the situation.
eivarden 2 months ago
If the is a cause of the universe. If this cause has a personality. If this cause is the most brilliant the most beautiful wonderful and powerful thing that could ever exist. If we call this God;
Then why do you (Christians and Muslims) insult him on a daily basis by accusing him of the crime of writing such a disgusting piece of drivel?
I seem to think much more of God than Christians or Muslims do...
kairobinson 7 months ago 3
A truly moving speach. I like the way it is shown. It took a while for me to be certain that it is actually recorded while you performed this monologue.
Your eyes look tired, and as if you are slighty sad, possibly about ending some peoples beliefs.
N3CR1S 7 months ago
interesting video but why did you have to make it so spooky with the loud humming noises and the eyes staring at me for the past 5 minutes?
renegadeskinninja 9 months ago
"That wasn't the end of my search for god by any means... It just meant that I thought you were all fuckin crazy." *presses like and subscribe*
Marz1ns4n1ty 9 months ago 3
Naah, god hates me and wants me to fail!
calmreason 10 months ago
Invalid argument by whomever is speaking in the video. His argument, as I'm hearing it, is thus: "I'm not missing out on an experience (Christian description of God's love) because you're missing out on something I am experiencing (the love of two gods). The conclusion does not logically follow from his initial proposition.
He has essentially spent 6 minutes saying nothing of intellectual value =/
Westyjr9000 11 months ago
@Westyjr9000 when making comparisons with the bible and playing on their level "spent 6 minutes saying nothing of intellectual value =/" is all you can expect :D
He basically returned the love that religion stole precisely back where it needed to be for those intelligent enough to get it ;)
shkotay 10 months ago
@Westyjr9000
You missed to pint of the video, which is perfectly normal. It's an elusive concept that many poeple struggle with for their entire lives.
He's basically saying that the "religious experience", the euphoric sense of oneness with the universe and god is inherent in all of us. We are all capable of experiencing it. But without context it can be a terrifying feeling, and religion gives it context
If god is real then it is so much more, infinitely so, than the god of the bible.
Kerouac0deciple 10 months ago 5
@Westyjr9000
u missed the point entirely..the love isn't from any god at all..the love is from the human mind. the human mind projects its love unto the universe and receives it back in the form of a god.
itzahazylife 9 months ago 3
I think the truth is as far as are awareness goes. When we are aware there is truth. When we aren't there isn't. The truth is to each and only each. We simply share assumptions and even this comment from me to you. From this, our truth changes rapidly every day from the moment we are consciously aware. Assumptions are the problem with belief... not religion. Assumptions are found in Atheism as well as theism. Proof needs a miracle of a definition if we are to fully ever establish anything.
Dolphidood 11 months ago
Although I'm not an agnostic or atheist, I was once, I'd rather listen or converse
with you, than most religious people, who have been 'zombified'!
Your approach is more human than those religious people who lack human
qualities, amongst them, questioning. The 'god' I believe in would understand
your quest and appreciate you! If you don't close down your mind and continue
to expand your consciousness, you will come to only one conclusion.
Good Luck!!!
fntime 11 months ago
Atheist probably are the most intellectual among our society.
But, that is the nature of their problem,the EGO!
The ego is a product of an 'intelligent mind'.
The ego is satanic,in Miltonian sense,'rather rule in hell than serve
in heaven',
If you're against religion,I agree totally. Religion's a con game
the goal to control.
But spirituality is something different.
There is another mind under your 'racinating' mind. It's usually
contacted in silence thru meditation. Try it, it works.
fntime 11 months ago
@fntime The ego (though you don't define it) has a single main property of impulsiveness, to which all other attributes are secondary. Rationality and intellect are rest in the prefrontal cortex as our most evolved portion of the brain, where as the limbic system and other areas lower on the brainstem are more primitive and impulsive. So when you say ego is the product of an intelligent mind, it's not only false, but the inverse is true. Only an intelligent mind can control the ego.
Dirge987 11 months ago
@Dirge987 No, impulsiveness, is NOT the main property of the ego.
The ego is a creation of the intellectual combining with the will of the
lower brain and very bad combination.It takes on a life of its own.
Your presumption that 'control' comes from the intelligent mind
I don't find to be true. The intelligent mind is a tool, that gives
man greater abilities.Logic & reason are 'mind programs' but have
limitations. Actually your intelligent mind should tell you that!
fntime 11 months ago
fntime 11 months ago
@fntime The problem I have is your statement "based on MY intellect and personal experience", as if your intellect and anecdotal evidence is correct simply because you think it is. If this idea of the ego is your personal belief, then you're welcome to it, but don't state such things as absolute fact like you did a few lines down. You can say "I believe" to anything you wish, and I have no problems with that, but you can't say ego is whatever it is as fact just because you believe so.
Dirge987 11 months ago
@fntime Secondly, while you assume a great deal about the "mind", you probably have little knowledge about the brain. The terms you use are incredibly generalized, like "the ego is the creation of the intellectual combining with the will of the lower brain." What does that even mean? You didn't define ego, or "intellectual" or "lower brain". I've met a lot of pseudoscientists that use the same method of vague generalized terms that mean next to nothing when they're really scrutinized.
Dirge987 11 months ago
@Dirge987 As I said to you earlier. I can explain this
to you, maybe not to your satisfaction, but certainly where
you can understand me. I said also, in the earlier
post, we have to define our words.
I think your approach is consistent with the over
intellectualized mind, having a tendency towards
mechanization of the brain and using the
'reductionist program'.
Intellectualization leads to conceptionalizing then falling into battle of opposites.
Thanks for your reply.
fntime 11 months ago
@fntime You keep saying we have to define our words, but you still haven't defined those words. Again, reductionist program, as if that means anything. You're only speaking new age pseudoscience. This isn't a battle of opposites, this is you making a claim of fact based only on your feelings. I take grievance with that. If you said it was your personal belief, then I wouldn't have said anything. But if you said things are absolute fact because you imagined it, then it's your ego controlling you.
Dirge987 11 months ago
fntime 11 months ago
@fntime Tell me, what conclusion have I come to? All I've stated are the classic fallacies and tactics that pseudoscientists use when trying to defend their fallacious ideas that you've used. Changing the subject, for one, is another tactic. Then there're the life stages that you showhorn me into, when you don't know who I really am. Now that's an assumption. Finally, I don't need to prove you wrong, since you can never prove a negative. YOU need to prove your point, which you haven't done.
Dirge987 11 months ago
@fntime I will accept when I'm wrong. All intelligent people, people that you claim have ego's controlling them, incorporate new ideas and rely not on their personal beliefs. You seem to have come to conclusions based on your feelings, assumptions, ideas that you state and don't support. If there really is an ego, it thrives when beliefs are asserted as fact. If you believe that human intellect is driven by the ego, then fine, believe it, but don't say it's a fact. That is ego at work.
Dirge987 11 months ago
@fntime If anything, and if the ego truly exists, the human intellect is the only thing that can really defeat it. The intellect allows people to understand when they're wrong and why, motivating them to reject the old and wrong ideas for new and correct ones. That requires some kind of personal critique - something the ego doesn't want. Belief and faith are nothing more than product of the ego - the need to be right.
Dirge987 11 months ago
"ALL the gods love me...just as long as I believe in them first. Odd, eh?"
Not my deity, the Gargantuan Frog of Despair is more mature and more reasonable.
Verse 1 of the gospel states that the Creator (GFOD) doesn't mind if you don't worship it, as it has provided no proof of it's existence, to mind would be rude and unreasonable.
pineapplepenumbra 1 year ago
i applaud you philhellenes
JohnPeter777 1 year ago
You put religious people on a pedestal because you have an inferiority complex. You are jealous because when I die, I will be carried off by Valkyries and taken to Valhalla to drink, eat, womanize, and fight for all of eternity.
QuotidianHegemony 1 year ago
Jesus loves Philhellenes.....lol
exacerbatedtaboo 1 year ago
Isaiah8:20"To the Law and to the prophecy:if they speak not according to this word,it because there is no light in them."Psalm119:105"your Law is a lamp to our feet,and a light to our path."this is why there is so much chaos in the world because people are being told "put down that book"if you would follow the 613 Laws of peace'thou shall not kill"thou shall not steathou shall not covet" one Law for native born and for the stranger, but no people want to do what they want and put away that book
k1manarmy 1 year ago
Genisis 15:9-10 Animal sacrifice makes God feel better. Exodus: God kills the children of Egyptians who had nothing to do with Moses. 4:14 - God directly makes Pharoh callous, helps to justify said generation-cide. 5:13 - "The Lord is a man of WAR". Later helps Moses commit genocide against everyone in would-be Israel. Genesis 11:7-9 and 1 Corinthians 1:27 God is a trickster, and the author of confusion.
And "Don't steal/kill" was already in older law codexes, so God is a copyright thief.
Xunkun 1 year ago
So, yes, I do feel that people would be better off following their own morality, instead of discarding their own capacity to feel empathy, for the babbling, blood-lusting, power-hungry, egotistical propaganda tales of bronze-age warlords seeking external justification for their crimes against humanity.
Perhaps, just maybe, they actual did have some twinges of morality telling them what they were doing was wrong-- but rather than admit it, they made shit up to make themselves feel better.
Xunkun 1 year ago
I know god is better than that. If it exists.
Another excellent video.
brajamtho757 1 year ago
creepy eyes
dagayle06 1 year ago
1: are those you're actual eyes?
2: are you related to Hannibal Lector in any way?
3: Creepy and inspiring at the same time
Zuifan 1 year ago
Great video!
My experiences were very similar. I went from Christianity to Hinduism to Buddhism to Taoism, and then I realised that God had become so abstract for me that I might as well call myself an atheist.
AThagoras 1 year ago
This video moved me. Thank you for sharing your ideas.
Jammsbro1 1 year ago
no such thing as two god
MrTrilidge 1 year ago
i couldn't have said it better myself
TheHomelessCripple 1 year ago
Win. Well spoken.
beavis6363 1 year ago
No, The Bible is a great book of liturature, poetry, philosophy, and heavily interpreted history. The only problem is in thinking it's all litraly true. I think any book would cause problems if Billions considered it all to be literaly true.
milascave 1 year ago
Christians should focus on the new testament. But that's hard because "you have to love your neighbor as yourself" and "you have to do unto others and you would have them do unto you." You cannot judge the prostitutes and you definitely would not be able to throw the first stone" And the parables of Christ speak of the "Good Samaritan (the heathen) who gets to go to heaven and not the High priest or Local Big Wig." Christianity has degenerated to where it will not satisfy intellectuals.
angelialvares 1 year ago
That is the story of my life. Those are the conclusions I made in a last few months/years. We have pretty much the same thoughts.
fafala7 1 year ago
I hear:"Jesus loves you Jesus loves you"...but I thought they wanted me to believe in god. How can I worship two guys? How can I worship someone and not be allowed to behave like him? People have tried to be god but were labeled "evil". How come my love must be credited to him? What debt did he pay for us? It seems like he's still asking us to pay! ..and if not we'll have to pay some more! He is a loanshark
again greatest videos on youtube
edwardtang1977 1 year ago
Being an Atheist means more than being a Theist ever could. Atheists, like myself, are free to consider the possibility that there may be something greater out that that surpasses all religious bigotry, whilst having the strength to know that even if there isn't, then that's ok too, because the beauty of existence is more than enough to captivate us
MandolinGuy530 1 year ago
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I agree with almost everything you said, except the claim that the Bible is a childish book. If you put away all the god stuff from the Bible you'll still have a lot of valuable literature from wich a lot of artists drained they're ideas and motives. I mean that without the Bible we wouldn't have a Sistine Chapel, and sculptures of David and Moses by Michelangelo, nor would we have The Last Supper by Da Vinci, and so on... So just don't call it a childish book and i'll be satisfied.
fear416 1 year ago
How about "primitive"? Can I call that damned book primitive and leave you satisfied.
philhellenes 1 year ago 155
You would say it's primitive, i would say that it's adequate to the time that it's written in. There is genuine and valuable art in the Book. Science has beaten the Bible in every point a long time ago but the art stays, and it's not primitive, that's all i'm trying to say. The only thing wrong with that book is that people believe in what it sais, although 2000 years have passed and we now know what they couldn't know. The only thing that is primitive are those people.
fear416 1 year ago
@fear416 Couldnt have said it better myself :) Exactly that.. At the time it was written, we didnt have science in the form we have it today.. In those times, it was impossible to know wether Earth was round or that the sky is not the limit.. like they believed back then.. Im just staggered at how much people believe even today in all the stuff the Bible is saying and blindly dismiss every logical and scientific proof that has been brought up "against" it.. Thats so sad..
S73f4N0S 1 year ago
@philhellenes its not primitive. Bible has lots of wisdom. The only annoying thing is that its wisdom mixed with horseshit.
Nevertheless, you seem to be a bit touchy about the subject so i'll leave u to it.
Unknnnnn 1 year ago
@Unknnnnn Usually, when people talk about the "sidom" in the Bible, they are talking about the Sermon on the Mount and similar passages. You can find a good critique of the Sermon at ironchariots . org / index.php?title=Sermon_on_the_Mount
pirbird14 1 year ago
@Unknnnnn , Uh, ya it actually is, see Merriam-Websters (primitive);
Of or relating to the earliest age or period : primeval the primitive church.
You may not like it, but it is a primitive book.
nerhu59 1 year ago
@philhellenes Old but still some of the plots are sophisticated. Still fiction based on some sort of reality, though.
TemplarX2 1 year ago
@fear416
So? We wouldn't have those *specific* works of art, but those artists would have made other great works.
The problem with taking things from the bible is that the bible *also* contains many horrific things. Take Dante's Inferno...
jursamaj 1 year ago
@jursamaj
Yes, of course there are horrific things. But you wouldn't say that Dante's inferno is not art would you? Why do we debate about this? The Bible is a source of inspiraton for artists even today... Would the art be different without it? Of course it would... But we can't change history now can we? :)
fear416 1 year ago
@fear416 its not a childish book, its a retarded book that is childish to worship
robertwc82 1 year ago
@robertwc82
it is childish to worship it as it is to worship any book and i don't worship it.. but why is it retarded?
fear416 1 year ago
@fear416 self contradiction, talking snakes, talking donkeys, begat, after begat,after begat, after begat, after begat, after begat, after begat, after begat, the demonstrably false claims, the far fetched extroadinary claims that defy logic and are no more then hearsay written many many years after the alleged event. the immorral teachings, the petty human like depiction of a so called supreme being, superstitious rituals, blatent plagerism of older myths....... , im running out of room here
robertwc82 1 year ago
@robertwc82
The first thing that went through my mind when i read your description was: "Oh, that sounds like the Harry Potter serial." :) It is 2000 years old, you can't really expect it to bee a scientific examination of the big bang can you? But dude, people that were a lot smarter then you drained inspiration from the Bible and created masterpieces. When you write a book that will be a long lasting source of inspiration to other artists then you can call the Bible retarded...
fear416 1 year ago
@fear416 As far as all these great works of art are concerned, remember that it was usually the church's that comissioned many of them. The artists went where the money was.
hawklord2001 1 year ago
@fear416 Just think how much better the art could have been if it was not inspired by ugly and superstitious Hebrew mythology. You don't really believe that those artists would just have spent their lives in gay bars if it wasn't for the Bible, do you?
MartinJWillett 1 year ago
@MartinJWillett
If it would not have been infulenced by the Hebrew mythology it would have been by the Roman or maybe some other monotheistic religion... Because religion is power and there is no way there would have been no religion at all... It came out to be what it came out to be and we can't change that... All we can do is appreciate it for what it is...
fear416 1 year ago
@fear416 Of course, because you can't make art except about religious themes, can you?
MartinJWillett 1 year ago
@MartinJWillett
Of course you can.... and many artists did troughout the history... all im saying is that art was influenced by religion and it would have been with or without the Bible... the result of that specific influence are many masterpieces and that is just a fact...
fear416 1 year ago
@fear416 It is a fact of no real relevance. It does not demonstrate that a particular religion is true or that religion makes artists inspired, all it shows is that when religion dominates artists are paid to produce religious art. All I can say is thank goodness not every artist was solely absorbed (voluntarily or by the efforts of sponsors and patrons) by religion so we can have some art that everybody can like.
MartinJWillett 1 year ago
@MartinJWillett
Why can't an artist be inspired by the Bible? It really doesn't matter if its true or not, if you believe or not.... the stories have all the drama, sci-fi and action you could ever want... and if you put the god stuff out you have some nice ethics packed in metaphors too... i really don't understand why can't the Bible be a good inspiration source...
fear416 1 year ago
@fear416 What's the moral message in the story of Abraham? Or Lot? Or David? Or Samson?
Which moral message did you have in mind?
MartinJWillett 1 year ago
@MartinJWillett
If Jesus was real... aside from being dellusional about being god's son he was a damn smart person and knew shit about ethics that were way ahead of their time... So when i talk about ethics in the Bible i talk about Jesus' teachings...
fear416 1 year ago
@fear416 What ethical gems are these? He said divorce doesn't work and if people remarry they are adulterers. Is that the ethical breakthrough? Or perhaps it was reverse queuing: the first shall be last and the last shall be first. Or maybe it was the cult-like destruction of families if people refused to accept that he was the son of God. Or perhaps the simple ethic of giving away all your money to the poor or else frying for eternity. Which did you have in mind?
MartinJWillett 1 year ago 3
@MartinJWillett
Spot on with that last one dude...
Jesus wanted people to drop their arrogance, and their big ego, and their lust for power and money... If he did that by frightening them that if they wouldn't do that they would be eternaly fucked im totally okay with it... I don't know if he was the son of god or not but i like his style..
fear416 1 year ago
@fear416 Are you a raging fuckwit then?
If he wasn't the son of God he was a man who lied to scare people. And if he was the son of God we're all fucked because there is no way out, if you're born you either spend eternity in hell and eternal torture for finite "sins" or you have to spend eternity in a so-called heaven with the monster who could create hell, the only being whose actions could logically justify being sent to it.
MartinJWillett 1 year ago 4
@MartinJWillett
Im not a fuckwit, human arrogance and lust for power is something that rules the world today and that just totally fucked up and it shouldn't be that way.. and im talking mostly about the elite people.. people in ruling positions and just rich people.. that's why i like what Jesus talks about.. they should burn in some kind of hell... look, we can just go on and on with this but i don't think our discussion is going anywhere... but it's nice to have one like that on youtube...
fear416 1 year ago
@fear416 Yes, the Bible has indeed inspired a great lot of literature, art & music. So what. So have all the other mythologies of the world. The Bible, in my absolutely non-humble opinion, is one of the most absolutely overrated books ever produced.
Kailoa36 1 year ago 11
@fear416 those men were so brilliant they would've drawn their inspiration from something else without the bible
kaga13 1 year ago
@fear416 Well, how about its childish to believe that the stories in the Bible actually happened.
HoLOLcaust 1 year ago
@fear416 Have you considered that perhaps we would still have the artist, and there works, but that there works would simply carry a diferant name, and be of other things, rather than fictional characters in a "holy" book?
Ihatemelee 1 year ago
@fear416 Yeah, and without the Holocaust we wouldn't have had a lot of art, movies, books, etc.
The Bible isn't a childish book. It's a barbaric book.
STFUNOWlol 1 year ago 67
@STFUNOWlol
we wouldn't likely have been born without the holocaust... or the Bible that inspired it
unassumption 7 months ago
@fear416 i would rather trade those things to get rid of the dark ages and inquisition and the other things which would have no happened without that book
blazereef 1 year ago 2
@fear416 Ezekiel 4 says to lie face down in the dirt for about a year, and eat shit-bread.
There's a poster of the cast of Star Wars performing at a rock concert.... "Midicholorians."
A stopped clock is right twice a day.
The Third Reich were the first to do serious studies that finally showed that smoking and lung cancer were related.
The point being: one or two high marks does not make up for the overall Suck.
Xunkun 1 year ago 4
@Xunkun Once again I try and vote someone up and nothing happens, can anyone explain this?
I feel the whole credibility of all 3 main monotheistic religions is totally undermined by the simple concept that the unbeliever will either be excluded from heaven, or worse, condemned to an eternal hell.
pineapplepenumbra 1 year ago
@pineapplepenumbra Youtube's been glitchy the last few days. Refresh, and the buttons'll show up again, usually.
Xunkun 1 year ago
@Xunkun I thought I might have tried that before, but maybe only after I had posted stuff, it works better when I don't post, thanks :-)
pineapplepenumbra 1 year ago
@fear416 " I mean that without the Bible we wouldn't have a Sistine Chapel, and sculptures of David and Moses by Michelangelo"
No, but we would have had something equally as beautiful. Michaelangelo would simply have had a different subject matter to make his art about.
Do you think that beautiful art is contingent purely on the Christian religion, or the bible?
Do you think that poetry and great literature doesn't exist outside the bible?
Tobytrim 1 year ago
@fear416 Well then the other side of the story is true as well. Without this book, million of people wouldn't have died fighting for their lives for a God that in all probability doesn't exist. All these works of art only serve as a monument, however beautiful, to the stupidity of man.
fault3k 11 months ago
@fear416 The bible has "god" stuff in it, it also has atrocities and horrific punishments for random acts.
Yahweigh 6 months ago
Nicely said
Popsfresh 1 year ago
you are not alone philhellenes for we are many ... :) that had the same experience.
paperfreeck 2 years ago
You can`t understand god!not either to expleined!you just only try to feel it!god is not a person,it`s not a personality!maybe it is an inner reality,a flow situation its the purpose and the reazon,but this not the point,anyway.
kachetil 2 years ago
Maybe my favorite Philhellenes video. I've asked my Christian friends how they can read the Bible and not feel guilt for believing that their god is such a horrible entity--for attributing (if an omniscient creator did exist) the worst of human characteristics--genocide, slavery, thought crime, racism, rape, child abuse, to name a few of "God's" actions or actions he condoned--to the creator of everything...to one who has all the knowledge of the universe--those are the things he is focused on.
Manifestatheist 2 years ago
this is almost exactly my experience
bighugejake 2 years ago
You are being absurd. My mind does not need to obey your self-denying ordinances. I have made my prediction, that when / if we make contact with another intelligent species we will find they have within their number individuals maintaining a religious culture. That's as far as this can go so that is where the speculation ends. This is the extrapolations of basic concepts of evolution and memetics. To go beyond that point ceases to have any connection with science and becomes sheer imagination.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago
I think that those of faith are missing a great deal as well. Those with a willingness to interpret information and seek truth while being open-minded to all relevant facts will seek a more understanding truth.
anyone feeling that I am mistaken..have you considered the perspectives of the several hundred other religions which differ from Christianity? if you haven't...how can you say with certainty yours is right and theirs is wrong?
destin325 2 years ago
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Why do you assume that we all had delusions like you did as a child?
I wasnever brainwashed by my parents and therefore had no "connection" with an imaginary being. Thank fuck.
So please dont convince the bible bashers that we all "found god in our childhood and just lost faith as adults.
That is patronizing and highly presumptuous of you.
MarcusCardiff 2 years ago
Never heard of a "percentage shot" then?
philhellenes 2 years ago
I know a little about percentages and so far one that strikes me as odd is
Percentages of world religions studied by members...
Christianity 33%
All others 66%
humm....is it odd for me to find it odd that , Moses, Mary, Joseph, peter and the others are only believed to exists to 1/3 of the world? not good odds to play in terms of eternity.
destin325 2 years ago
@destin325 Your figures are hopelessly wide of the mark. There are somewhere in the order of 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars (plus or minus one order of magnitude) in the universe. Many of these will have planets. We can presume that many of those will have life, intelligent life and superstitious life (because superstition will always get at least a few millennia head start on reason). These lifeforms will invent gods too. There's probably more postulated gods than Christians.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago
will have
safe to presume
will invent
superstition
thats a lot of guess work with no supporting evidence. Im with you because it doesnt make sense to think that WE are the only life forms ...but I wouldnt go outside of youtube and talk about aliens and alien Gods (save yoruself the ridicule)
destin325 2 years ago
@destin325 It's too late for that. I went public on this years ago. Look up Willett's Wager. Of course it is all conjecture, we only have a sample of one planet and one religious species but that doesn't stop us speculating and making out our cases.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago
....historically, those that followed speculations were typically lost, uneducated, and gullible.
the world is flat
the moon is a disc
God is behind that meteor and you can get to him by cutting your nuts off and drinking this poison potion.\
im not saying there arent any other life forms that are intelligent but there are thousands of men and women that do search for a living....ill leave it up to them to find rather than guesstimate
destin325 2 years ago
@destin325 Who is following a speculation here? I mere suggest that if there are other intelligences out there then they must have evolved or been designed by those which have evolved and they must have entered a period of superstition and I WAGER at least some of them will never have left it regardless of how advanced or intelligent their species is. It's a hypothesis. It's also a bet. It's not an article of faith. Thinking is allowed you know. So is speculating and wagering.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago
destin325 2 years ago
@destin325 That was a long walk :o)
greenelf12 2 years ago
@MartinJWillett
I love the way you actually tried to sound the Universe as finite, as this as not yet been proven.
Assuming the universe is infinite is much funnier in this situation, seeing as a chance on a million is nothing in comparison to something that has no know end
Though I prefer saying another form of life will let reason have the headstart
Xgya2000 2 years ago
@Xgya2000 Infinity is an invention of mathematicians.
Myth will always have the head start on science as making shit up and threatening people until they act as though they accept your explanations is much easier than discovering the true nature of reality.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago
Obviously, I usually see it in manipulative and devious idealists.
MarcusCardiff 2 years ago
Thats why I removed you from my subscription list.
MarcusCardiff 2 years ago
My parents were atheists, they taught me that God wasn't real and religious people are all idiots.
When I was in my early 20's I realised God *could* exist.
When I was about 30 I had 100% faith in God. I used to talk to God and God used to talk to me. I once met Jesus too.
So you are right, it is not all childhood brainwashing. Sometimes we brainwash ourselves into believing what we want to be true.
I was deluded.
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
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MarcusCardiff 2 years ago
I am a believer in God, and have had, and do have that experience of closeness and communication with God. I consider myself a rational person, and value that trait. These experiences don't occur outside of my rational sense. Their content isn't the same as yours. There are things you've said about your experience that don't strike me as particularly rational, but interesting nonetheless. How do you, 4 yourself, verify the source of the communications, would be a question I might ask you.
rjminns 2 years ago
I wish I could tell my path to enlightent. - I will at some stage.. This is great mein fruend
leonrenege 2 years ago
Brilliantly beautiful!
AsexualAtheist 2 years ago 3
Well spoken sir i /bow to you.
scypion11 2 years ago
I love, and agree the way you think.
T^T I teared up a bit at the end.
BlackSharingan666 2 years ago 2
Wow. Very powerful.
Excellent video. Thank you so much.
lllrEVOLVErlll 2 years ago 4
Dawkins covers all these emotions in the God Delusion, and how evolution can explain them.
12stringsforme 2 years ago 4
God is a verb
waldenandwilson 2 years ago
Evil is an adjective.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago
as well as a noun
johngeetar 2 years ago
Only in dictionaries, not in reality.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago
Depends on how you define it.
johngeetar 2 years ago
This is an excellent video, and piece of art. As an 'apostate,' I can relate completely.
LukeShetler 2 years ago
Well said white face.
PolarisCZ 2 years ago 2
When Abraham agreed to sacrifice his son, maybe the test was whether he would say "No".
I would :-)
AlRasuwl 2 years ago 64
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i would just say "hey god your not real and you and jesus can suck my fucking dick.."
commi9 2 years ago 2
Me too, in fact I think Abraham failed like an idiot
jav90xw 2 years ago 2
@AlRasuwl It's weird that Abraham argued with god against the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, but he didn't argue when it was about his own son...
razhorblahd 1 year ago
@razhorblahd No it's not. He was stark raving mad.
hawklord2001 1 year ago
@AlRasuwl : saying no is easy.. Obeying objectivity is to transcend your individuality.
That being said, nice vid - and don't attack me for being religious, cuz i'm not ^ ^
selvmordspilot 1 year ago
@AlRasuwl Lincoln didn't sacrifice his son, his son was saved by booths brother, ironically enough. And the answer you're going for is 'no, you pretentious fucktard, I love my son dearly, go play with GLaDOS and her stupid companion cube'
Zuifan 1 year ago
@AlRasuwl considering the rest of the story has him getting stopped by an "angel of the lord" i'd say you may be onto somthing there.
Ihatemelee 1 year ago
@AlRasuwl And then God boomed down "You've got balls, kid."
Theonegamefreak 1 year ago 2
@AlRasuwl
It's interesting to note that when god told Abraham he was going to destroy the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, Abraham argued with god against that action, and finally struck a compromise. However, Abraham didn't protest when god told Abraham to kill his own son.
B0rn0nly0nce 1 year ago
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@B0rn0nly0nce "However, Abraham didn't protest when god told Abraham to kill his own son."
Back in those days it was apparently moral to stone unruly children. I suppose that can explain it.
Gnomefro 1 year ago
I will Fucking DRINK TO THAT!
graphattic 2 years ago 5
what are we drinking? ...can i wear a big furry hat & drink vodka in the snow & pretend i am a jolly russian? LOL
...just a personal desire of mine to sit around being silly with other people in furry hats drinking vodka in the snow
tarose71 2 years ago
Wow. This video is amazing. You are not only a talented mind, but an artist of respectable caliber. Incredible job.
PachucoDesigns 2 years ago
"And then of course you ask yourself,
If I'm feeling the love of two totally different Gods
Then could it be....."
Anything "could be"
Love is a subjective interpretation of natural causal effect events. It is an idea that isn't factually true. Simply a subjective interpretation.
Meaning is an organized set of beliefs handed down in books. This individual has his own religion like all humans based on those indoctrinated interpretations of natural causal effect events.
Twicebakedtaters 2 years ago
Beautifully crafted Sir....
robotwookie 2 years ago
This is one of the most profound videos I've ever seen. Thank you so much for making and posting this!
If I had seen this a long time ago it could have helped me so much.
ScissorHand26 2 years ago
Wonderful, I'm really enjoying your videos!
Gibdozer 2 years ago 4
I can report that this is a verbatim account of my exact experience and that of many others. This refutes the idea that atheism is as characerised by the religious, the act of waging unjustifiable war against perfection, an expression of a fallen spirit. My atheism bases itself on deep and protracted introspection, having sought God with all my faculties, having ceaselessly investigated this universe, having scrutinised the evidence, I was genuinely disappointed to learn that God does not exist.
xburningheavensx 2 years ago 4
I find it ironic that the religious who look down upon the non-religious seem to have this view that they have a drive to understand the universe whereas those that they criticize wish to live in ignorance.
The irony is that those who choose to be non-religious for intellectual reasons in fact came to those conclusion BECAUSE they had a drive to understand the universe, and they discovered that starting with the assumption of a personal God leads to conclusions shrouded in ignorant acceptance.
SolMaster 2 years ago 3
Indeed
xburningheavensx 2 years ago
It's too true... I support the viewpoint you mention, and feel like my thirst for knowledge just condemns me in the eyes of the clergy. I don't think an all-knowing god would condemn you for trying to learn more about his presence.
jesse0192 2 years ago
The love of two Gods penetrating me double anally..............Is the best love of all.
bigboy45454545 2 years ago 8
Presumably lol, if God was around BEFORE the universe, was he bored one day?, or did he just feel lonely and decided to make a massive universe so that he could make these things that will love him, well, he made it so only some love him and some don`t, then made two afterlives for us, heaven and hell, just his little game he likes to play or what? My question to thiests is...WHY? why did he bother doing ANY of it? what does HE get out of it? whats it`s purpose, the reason for it?
peteq1972 2 years ago
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Gigsixstring 2 years ago
The Jesus myth was plagiarized from the old story of Osiris and Isis. Details were skewed to fit the Christ myth, but that's where it came from. It's a borrowed concept older than Christianity. Nearly as old as mankind. Don't be a sucker
Christheatheist1 2 years ago
to may fullfilled prophesies, miracles, signs, eyewitness all fit together to give a perfect picture of the Truth. you see the Truth is not something it is somebody and His name is JESUS!
God has relieved himself in the person of Christ.
HolyCatholicApostoli 2 years ago
The Miracle of Our Lady of Fatima!
HolyCatholicApostoli 2 years ago
More bull crap and hysteria. You people see the virgin mary in cheese toast. Forget it man. Not buying it.
Christheatheist1 2 years ago
It is truly wonderful when the atheists of the
70, 000 people who saw the Miracle of the Sun and Believed! Even the Atheist government of Portugal was dumbfounded.
They saw with their own eyes and doubted no more.
Don't bury your head in the sand open you eyes and investigate the truth!
Don't buy into this man made Atheist Delusion.
HolyCatholicApostoli 2 years ago
What are you doing on this video thread? No thanks. I prefer reality
Christheatheist1 2 years ago
Truth? What truth? I find it extremely hypocritical how a Theist can use the words "Man made" and "Delusion" to describe atheist. God is man made, and you my friend are delusional.
Science = Fact
Religion = Fiction
Hardysamnin 2 years ago 2
What is more rational:
God made everything
everything created itself??
you need a lot more faith to believe there is no God than to believe in Him.
HolyCatholicApostoli 2 years ago
Actually, there is enough evidence (If you are willing to actually probe into it) that the big bang is factual. There is a brief explanation by the maker of this video if you have a look through his posts. Regardless, the question will always be, if God created the universe, who created god. Did he just appear one day. Was he always there, even longer than 13.7 billion years ago before the universe was created. My guess = probably not, no.
Hardysamnin 2 years ago