In what way is the opposition to abortion pro-life?
What's with the shifty evasive answers, "Father"?
We had a 'pro-life' parish priest who had quite the eye for the ladies until a colleague and I complained against his behavior to our school principal. Fortunately we were guys and teachers so it worked!
@TheCrookedTimber mine are brilliant while yours is just standard stupid hippy propaganda. you are the asshole. you think its a right to murder children and then sanctimoniously act like your mr. awesome standing up for women. your just a pretentious fathead playing games, pretending to stand up for whats right so you can continue to act like an angry failure and pat yourself on the back for it.
@TheCrookedTimber well its hard to tell the gender of your crowd. and you can shove your views and your head back up the hole they came from before you try to lecture me you nazi vagina
That is not true. Your movement is not peaceful. There have been many murders of physicians by Christians. I have not heard of one incident where a pro life activist has been physically hurt by a pro choice activist.
These comments speak volumes about how sick and stupid pro abortion activists are!! This is what you have to offer the world? All while crying that your rights are being infringed. The first thing any criminal does is scream about how their a victim and their rights are infringed. You act like anyone else guilty of murder!
I'm done replying to this thread. I feel anger and motivation to further polarize and it's not worth it. I stand by my first reaction to this video though (regarding the inappropriateness of this video made by Fr Pavone). I sincerely hope both positions will not further polarize and show more mutual respect to each other.
@sjakie2408 "let he without sin cast the first sin" all you have done is throw stones sjakie. You personally have shown no respect. what the hell is wrong with you?
If this is the black and white moral guidelines you seek in your Christian beliefs then I don't want any part in it. I was brought up in a traditional Christian parish were I was thought that nothing is black and white and that a good Christian is here to help people and don't judge them. I belief that the vast majority of people with a abortion related profession do their jobs because they want to help women and children and not (what you belief) kill them.
@oldcomic1 You have no idea what you're talking about! Who said the killing of Tiller was by a Catholic? And its not like we support it. We would of never treated violence with more violence! Jesus said in the bible, "love your enemies" and that's what us Catholics and pro-lifers live by.
his 1979 book, “Aborting America,” Dr. Nathanson explained how he and others cynically fabricated and exaggerated statistics about the number of abortions and the number of deaths from illegal abortions at the same time they consciously adopted a strategy of systematically vilifying the Catholic Church hierarchy.
@oldcomic1 allright. ignore all the good that they've done and condemn the whole institution because even though it has less corruption than any other large institution, there is still some corruption. Just realize to be fair you have to condemn everyone else also.
@johny260 Less corruption than everybody else? So hundreds of years of child abuse isn't corruption. Oh and don't forget the vatican bank used to launder mafia money. It's a corporation whose purpose is to make money. I know there are sincere priests, but what stand did they take against this, The current pope participated in the cover up. As long as they don't stand against him, they have to take responsibility. And you have to take responsibility for the support you're giving
@oldcomic1 let me break it down for you moron. this thing has been going on in every institution and handled the same way. show me one institution that deals with children with less pedaphiles than the Catholic church.
@johny260 Ignore all the good the church has done and generalize in terms of corruption?
Almost all child abuse cases reported to the police in the last few years have been cases where the victim would be satisfied if they are recognized in their problems (most important, the church). They don't seek money only acknowlegdement. What does the church do even to this date? Still tries to cover-up and trivialize like you are doing now.
@oldcomic1 slander is fun isn't it. why don't you look at the actual statistics. especially that of the public school system, which has laws in place not allowing them to be sued when kids are raped and molested by teachers.
@johny260 The Catholic church handles their scandal like any other corporation. First cover it up then image control. Never any concern for their " flock"
@oldcomic1 while 99% of priests sacrifice their lives to helping others. your taking those who are doing a good job and calling them pedophiles. thats what I have a problem with. second, most do show concern for their flock. Its the equivelant of saying all teachers and school officials are evil, since there is corruption in the school system. I like seeing the guilty pay, not the innocent. also read the stats.
@johny260 They are part of a corporation which engaged in this behavior, not just the the wrongdoing but the cover up. Documents prove that went to the highest levels of the vatican. All priests support that corporation. If the Ford Motor Co. had engaged in this type of behavior, they would be banned. Only a church can do this kind of thing and get away with it. And it's been going on for a long time. So when they present themselves as moral authorities, I say you have lost the right to do that
@oldcomic1 you don't know what your talking about. the education system does the same thing blatently on a massive scale right now. This happened in the church to a much lesser extent then any other organization. I told you to look up the stats.
@oldcomic1 as with every organization, secular and religious. Pedophilia (the sexual abuse of a prepubescent child) among priests is extremely rare, affecting only 0.3% of the entire population of clergy, also 4 in 80 of accused preists were accused of pedophilia, the rest were statutory rape. general population is 1% how about you read public school stats.
@johny260 You trivialize a huge crime commited by binging up these vague statistics. They might even be true but you think priests abusing small children and their bosses trying to cover up is less serious than your average bad uncle who abused his/her nephew. I think it is worse. This was organized abuse by priests who were in a dominant (supposed caregiving) situation and used that position to abuse and manipulate, and have done everyting to get away with it. Recognition not Trivializing
@sjakie2408 listen, you don't have the right to be stupid and hard headed. you are deliberately twisting what I said because you can't handle the fact that you are illogical and I am not. I never trivialized it. I never said it wasn't horrible. You are using it as an excuse to hate those who tell you to behave and to slander the innocent "for the children"
I don't know any pro lifer that condones violence in the name of the cause. In fact, the pro lifers I know absolutely hate it when this happens because the media are so quick to lump them in with these lone nut killers. It sets the cause of life back not forward.
@johny260 Pro choice violence vs Pro life violence.
Look it up and see that pro-choicers are killing millions?
You're trying to make your point by saying: "I'm right, now what's your argument?"
Many pro-lifers try not to see themselves as murderers because they have thought and talked about their difficult choice to abort because they might not be able to give the baby a good upbringing.
You don't care about people. You just want to kill them murderers. What's your motivation?
@sjakie2408 this is like arguing with a mentally retarded asshole. you can't understand a damn thing I'm saying and just throw up one stupid stereotype after another and say its me. How can you call yourself Christian? I know, its because you only know how to lie.
@johny260 About recognition in stead of trivialization:
This is were we started this dicussion.
The trivialization of the murder of Dr. Tiller in this video by Pavone.
He felt the need to trivialize and communicate (on the very day of the murder) that this murder should not hold the pro-life movement back in it's course.
With child abuse the same.
Don't recognize that the church made huge mistakes and trivialize it because Christians are the only moral people and the rest are murderers.
@sjakie2408 you keep putting words in my mouth. I never even said christians where moral. I said killing babies by anyone is wrong. and frankly one guy getting shot, compared to 100s of millions of murdered babies is relatively trivial. watch "the silent scream"
@johny260 I don't think women should lose their right to chose because of what superstitious morons believe. I'm not interested in making your imaginary friend happy
@johny260 LOL, if anyone doesn't live in reality it's you. You're talking so much shit that nobody is taking you seriously WAHAHAHAHAHAAA. You're a childish wannebe. Are you against abortion so you can rape small babies with your christian friends? LMFAO.
@sjakie2408 RIGHT ON!!! THIS IDIOT ONLY FITS IN THIS MESSAGE BOARD. HE'S ALREADY BEING ATTACKED BY 3 PPL ON A MESSAGE BOARD FREQUENTLY VISITED BY ANTI-CHOICE PEOPLE LIKE HIM. THIS IDIOT WOULDN'T DARE TO POST ANYTHING ON VIDEOS THAT ARE PRO-CHOICE BECAUSE HE'D BE RIPPED APART.
@1989DaVinci you are ugly, even for a british woman. you should be in a hospital for the criminally insane. I have destroyed every argument you have brought forth as you retreat farther into your delusions. You show how truly ugly the pro abortion side is.
@johny260 my conscience is a billion times smarter than your arguments. I see that you already have your hand full of another smart person that hates your views. Like I said, most of the people who come here are anti-choice like you, and there are already several people against you.
You have no real life and you can't accomplish much, this message board is all the chance you got for feeling important and you're using it to jerk off your ego.
@1989DaVinci actually divinci. I do and they have better arguments then you, which I also destroy. second, you have told me what a wonderful person you are and a complete psychological profile of your defence mechanisms. that is why I talk to you more. You want to be an abortionist and are a feminest in order to feel important. You come back for more to feel important.
@johny260 you say there is no evidence from God but do all you can to hide from that evidence. You say if God had power he would kill you, but he came down to the evil, not kill them. are you that blinded by your arrogance. reality will never conform to your wishes no matter how many walls you build up against it. "I lay before you two paths, life and death, choose life"
@johny260 Typical for you to make this comparison (Christians, such a marvellous relation with the jews in recent history), didn't know you were this radical. What's the word for someone who thinks that they can call women that make a dificult decision to abort murderers because GOD told them so OR as a male tell all women what they can't do? Delusional, arrogant, ... But hey, you can always walk out on your girl when you knock her up and don't want responsibility. It's the Christian way.
@sjakie2408 yes. baby killing is wrong, so I must be saying it because I think you should be in the kitchen. I am chauvinist even though you make a very good case for chauvinism
@johny260 LOL, raped by logic says the one making NAZI comparisons and citing from the bible.
If I am feeling raped by logic what sexual comparison is suitable for a brainwashed religious fundamentalist like you? A by-a-group-of-male-priests-gangbanged by logic. Well I guess you have been, and you liked it, hearing your true passion of what the bible says. The fun thing is, most fruitcakes like you evt. stop arguing knowing that they are wrong. You are stupid and psychotic enough not to.
@sjakie2408 you've got 4 fingers pointed back at you. my posts actually make sense while you rave like a maniac. Maybe murdering your kid has traumatized you.
FRANK PAVONE, AS LONG AS WOMEN STILL HAVE THE CHOICE OF HOW TO USE THEIR UTERUS, ABORTION IS HERE TO STAY. YOU'RE A FILTHY PERVERT FOR TRYING TO TELL WOMEN THEIR WAY OF USING THEIR UTERUS IS WRONG WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A UTERUS!!!!
ABORTION IS HERE TO STAY BECAUSE IT PROTECTS WOMEN, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T GET ONE!!!!! NOBODY IS DRAGGING YOU INTO A CLINIC TO GET AN ABORTION!!!!
@1989DaVinci a lot of people are pressured into abortions, especially when they want to cover up statuatory rape and incest. You help let rapists off the hook.
@johny260 YOU'RE SO SIMPLEMINDED TO ASSUME THAT I AM AN AMERICAN. THAT'S THE MOST DISHONORABLE THING YOU CAN ALL A PERSON TODAY AND ONLY REDNECKS LIKE YOU ARE PROUD OF WHERE YOU'RE PARENTS HAD YOU RATHER THAN ANYTHING YOU ACHIEVED.
@1989DaVinci YOU said in another video that you were pissed because it made fun of people from Ohio, so either you just really love people from Ohio are from Ohio. If you weigh which makes more sense, it is the second possibility.
@TheModerNizer I never got pissed off of people insulting Ohio. I don't care about Ohio. If you saw something I wrote in the voting machine from the Simpsons, then go back and read it again, because you misread what I wrote.
@1989DaVinci thats the thing. I never said you live in America. you take a ludicris idea and run away from reality with it. all subtlety is lost on you.
@johny260 I WAS USING AMERICAN AS A DEROGATORY TERM AGAINST YOU DIMWIT. SHIT, YOU ARE STUPID!!! I'M TOO NORMAL TO GET ON JERRY SPRINGER, THE SHOW IS FOR IDIOT FUNDAMENTALISTS LIKE SAY...YOU!!!! ANYONE SMARTER THAN THAT CAN'T GET ON THE SHOW, BUT YOU'LL GET A PHONE CALL FROM THEM FOR SURE AFTER THEY READ YOUR POSTS.
@1989DaVinci umm. how about you read your own posts then try to say that with a straight face. it takes a lot of hate to kill babies. a lot of denial and a lot of psyching yourself up by hating those who point out that its obviously wrong.
@1989DaVinci again with the stereotypes. stereotypes are the refuge of those who are in denial. I'm sorry you picked murder as a profession and thought people would praise and love you for it. to bad its all empty.
@1989DaVinci do you realize that you are an insane troll? and you aren't normal. maybe in England. Enjoy your economic collapse, courtesy of the first "European President" Obama and your socialist ideals. To bad you don't have Germany to give your country a welfare check.
@johny260 It's wrong to waste your time guarding a youtube board while not getting your head checked. At least get a REAL JOB. THIS IS WHAT YOUR MOTHER SHOULD BE TELLING YOU.
I have officially exposed the brainwashed mind of a wannabe abortionist. Check out my posts and 1989Davinci posts if you ever wondered what goes on inside their heads.
@sjakie2408 I'd like to hear you say your not a hippocrate trying to prove a point to himself, also why don't you google "most peaceful civil rights movement in history of america" and if you want to see a violent mind, scroll down to your own side, Davinci1989, before you start pointing fingers.
@johny260 As a Christian I found it disturbing that a priest would want to make a video saying "be carefull not to link this murder to pro-life" and "the most peacefull ...". Well, mr. Pavone, now you know that someone with your ideas killed another human, what are your thoughts?
Johny260, nobody takes you seriously when you say that people are brainwashed or make money of abortions.
@sjakie2408 As a Christian, you should know better to support pro choice crap. I can point to a million people who hold similar beliefs to who killed people who were already born. People make a lot of money off of abortions. Davinci1989 has had her symptomology pointed out on this comment site. scroll down. And read something by someone other than planned parenthood for a change. I'm not Pavone, I'm just logical.
@johny260 I'm not in favor of yes or no solutions (neither is logic). When a womans life is in danger I find it defendable to abort. What do you mean by people make a lot of money of abortion? Docters have a salary yes, but no docter chooses to perform abortions for the money.
@sjakie2408 they choose it because they aren't good enough to be a real doctor and its a multibillion dollar industry. You are lying when you call yourself Christian
@johny260 Well, I'm Christian enough not to want legislation that would infringe on peoples rights based or call people that think different that pro-choice murders
@sjakie2408 but you support it across the board for that exception. If the life of an unborn child has no value than why would it be wrong to kill her in other circumstances? its either a life or it isn't.
@johny260 I never said the life on an unborn child has no value.
I said there are situations where the life of the mother is in danger in which case I find abortion defendable.
Like I said, I don't like black&white solutions. I don't think that you want pregnant women to die because of pregnancy complications do you? Just like you shouldn't put words in someones mouth by saying that they find human of no value. There are some other exceptions in which case abortion should be legal imo.
@sjakie2408 you said the unborn child's life has value. Why does it have value and if it is a human life, killing it is murder. killing babies for selfish reasons is pretty black and white.
@johny260 What's more selfish and black and white?
1. An unborn child is extremely valuable and abortion can only take place if it saves the mothers life.
2. Because of christian beliefs, nobody is allowed to have an abortion. If you die delivering a child, too bad.
You're religion has made you arrogant and blind to what is happening in the world. What gives you the right to decide that people can't have an abortion? All you christians think you have a monopoly on moral truth or something.
@sjakie2408 that is a lie. abortion is not considered a sin if it is to save the mother's life. quite arguing and lying about one percent of the cases when most of the cases are due to the mother's and fathers selfeshness and carelessness. And Athiests have shown by everything they touch that Christianity has the monopoly on moral truth and that relativism is only for people who need a way to justify hurting others.
@johny260 I'm gonna let the baby have his bottle, otherwise he gets fussy. you can tell you self that you destroyed my arguments if you want, but abortion is legal in the US should tell you something whether my work is praised or despised. This message board is all you got in doing anything fulfilling and it's pathetic. You have no life.
also, you still can't control women's uterus regardless of how disgusting of a person you make yourself out to be, so GO FUCK YOURSELF b/c no one's gonna.
@USAsoldier1955 lol, you mean my areligious attitude. You're right, I'm not thaught to try and impose religious ideas to otherthinking people like you are. I'm thaught to think independently and not parroting ideas presented to you by people that rape little boys. Is that why you pro-lifers here are so fantatical? Please don't abort, you might kill a little boy I want to fuck?
@sjakie2408 So your religious extremism exists because you're "thaught" or "taught" to be an "otherthinking" fanatical parrot who wants to abort & rape little boys? OFLOL! :D
@BritanniaBullyBaby YeeeHawww....another Irish Fairy wannabe Yank! You wouldn't make a patch on a good British arse, but if your Paki dole can afford it -- we British Americans heartily recommend them! In fact, since we support African mission efforts, I'll personally see to it that you receive a fresh crate of Florida limes for Christmas, young Togo! OFLOL! ;D
And thanks for executing that abortionist, along with those Paki student rioters!
@suryavajna What are you talking about? the people spewing it are athiests, and I know how Christians are treated by hindi's in india and its not very peaceful. I think you should not get your opinions of religion from youtube flame wars.
@USAsoldier1955 look who's talking???? look who is coming back with weak arguments while pretending to be a lutheran pastor. IF YOU'RE GONNA PRETEND TO BE SOMEONE HOLY, PRETEND TO BE GOD ...BUT WAIT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING!!!
@johny260 Yes, you have wonderfully described the psychopathic personality of 1989 DaVinci and his sock puppet Arab girlfeind, yerMessfool. "They" would be amusing -- were IT not so pathetic! I wonder what kind of noise they would make if one of their Nazi abortionists would start vivisecting them? Oh, but they're simply a "blob of tissue"! OFLOL! ;D
I hope they get over their brainless wrath and have the grace to repent. I keep trying to explain the concept of brainwashing to davinci, but shes well programmed.
@johny260 AND YET YOU ARE THE ONE PRETENDING TO BE GOD, JUDGING THESE WOMEN WHO ARE SUFFERING. BY YOUR LOGIC, YOU'RE GOING STRAIGHT TO HELL FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
IT'S JUST A SHAME THAT THERE ISN'T A HELL FOR YOU TO GO TO.
@1989DaVinci I forgot the part of Nazi brainwashing where told that they were the victims through their people who were victimized. this is to insight righteous fury, the next step is demonization of the "enemy". Hence your statement that you would through me into hell. The action of killing a baby is cowardly. You can condemn me as judgemental for making that statement and throw me into hell over youtube, but the line has to be drawn somewhere.
@johny260 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU DISPLAY EVERYONE OF THESE SYMPTOMS
complete villainization of those who are against her cause. --> you call all the women who had abortions murders (women who are against your idea of reproduction even though you don't have a uterus)
Paired association with those against her cause and the worst criminals(pedofiles) -->you accused me of being a Nazi while I'm helping women that are being harmed physically and emotionally by their pregnancy
@1989DaVinci I called you a nazi because you squak like a nazi and are brainwashed like a nazi, and kill like a nazi. - and you dehumanize others like a nazi. it is not a random association or an assumed one. you've said you wished you could kill me, that my family was raped, etc. your kind of a nazi.
@johny260 Stereotyped thinking --> you stereotyped all abortion doctors as murderers who deserve to die (so much for pro-life!)
fear of testing preconcieved notions --> science of evolution has already proved that organisms evolve but you would rather believe the easy yet wrong way that "god" made everything
@1989DaVinci I already disproved every scientific argument you tried to make. that which doesn't fit your mantra is automatically not considered, no matter how valid. Do you understand anything about cultic and nazi brainwashing I am trying to tell you. I'm telling you whats going on in your head and you are still running deeper into denial. The prolife movement is the most peaceful civil rights movement in the history of America. Abortionists deserve death but we give mercy, not justice.
@johny260 I'm not gonna bother arguing with you about science because it's not controversial...arguing with you can only lower my IQ.
arguing with someone on a message board is all you can do, you haven't gone anywhere to experience anything worldly enough to tell me that I'm programmed
I experienced with religions you haven't even heard of (Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Budhism, Jehovah's witness...) and I came to my conclusion on my own, not from some cheap book like what you're doing
@1989DaVinci If you were programmed you would not know it, because you are programmed to ignore the signs of it, even if you were to be told point blank.
@johny260 Condemnation and hatred towards the enemy she has created in her mind --> you're not even smart enough to create a god, you just accept other ppl's tricks --> you made abortionists out to be the enemy in your own mind while men like you are irresponsible about where they jam their dicks (the abortionists are cleaning up your mess!!!)
Beleif in her own supremecy --> you believe that there definitely is a God who judges people by your bullshit standards
@1989DaVinci The last thing typical of nazi brainwashing is that the person is unable to consider what is being said, but assumes it is a name calling match and says "no you are" They are unable to understand what is being said, because anything that is against the mantra that has been repeated over and over is glossed over and not considered.
@johny260 I'M BEGINNING TO DOUBT THAT YOU WORK WITH CHILDREN. WHOEVER HIRED YOU MUST BE RETARDED BECAUSE ONLY A RETARD WOULD HIRE A RETARD.
YOU'RE ONLY AFRAID OF ABORTION BECAUSE YOU'LL BE JOBLESS IF ABORTION IS LEGALIZED. YOU WANT CHILDREN TO BE BORN IN BAD SITUATIONS SO YOU CAN MAKE A FEW BUCKS, HOW SICK CAN YOU GET!!! AT LEAST WHEN AN ABORTION DOCTOR PERFORMS AN ABORTION IT'S A ONE TIME THING, UNLIKE YOU WHO WANTS CONTINUOUS SUFFERING
@1989DaVinci I've already answered this argument. and you are just second in line to victimize kids by raping them with your instruments. Most rape victims cite the reason for an abortion as pressure from family. Many are also traumatized that they took the babies life. Many of abortions are pressured on the woman by others, so not really her choice anyways, but at least your making money off it.
@johny260 idiot, most women, regardless of their age know what an abortion procedure is before it is done and they made the choice to go through with it, regardless whether their decision is based on their family or their own. Pro-choice is about a woman making the choice of having or not having an abortion and live by it.
it's obvious that no woman wants abortions, that's why women who are not pregnant don't get them. Women get abortion because it is the right thing to do for them.
@johny260 you haven't proven jack, and you're getting more people who are kind enough to argue with your bullshit. BE GRATEFUL!!!
YOUR GOD LATERTERM ABORTED ALL THE PEOPLE WHO NEVER MADE IT ONTO NOAH'S ARK AND KILLED ALL THOSE EGYPTIAN BABIES!!!! YOUR GOD IS AN ABORTIONIST!!!! BY YOUR STANDARDS, BY DISOBEYING YOUR IMAGINARY FRIEND, YOU'LL BE IN HELL SOON.
Davinci exposed herself in public then yermaisfine keeps posting to kick his pro abortion friend's posts off the page. I called him on it, now he posts as usasoldier to hide that. typical pro abortion coverup. act like a dick and try to bully, then hide it.
I love you USASoldier, I cannot stand that yerma guy, he is against homosexuality, against sodomy, against GOD entirely. I am glad you're out of the closet as you said in your PM to me, Thanx buddy!
In what way is the opposition to abortion pro-life?
What's with the shifty evasive answers, "Father"?
We had a 'pro-life' parish priest who had quite the eye for the ladies until a colleague and I complained against his behavior to our school principal. Fortunately we were guys and teachers so it worked!
kixmet 5 months ago
@TheCrookedTimber mine are brilliant while yours is just standard stupid hippy propaganda. you are the asshole. you think its a right to murder children and then sanctimoniously act like your mr. awesome standing up for women. your just a pretentious fathead playing games, pretending to stand up for whats right so you can continue to act like an angry failure and pat yourself on the back for it.
johny260 7 months ago
@TheCrookedTimber well its hard to tell the gender of your crowd. and you can shove your views and your head back up the hole they came from before you try to lecture me you nazi vagina
johny260 7 months ago
@TheCrookedTimber back to the kitchen feminazi. wave that your coathanger elsewhere. and please close your mouth and legs. have a nice day.
johny260 7 months ago
@TheCrookedTimber Thank you for speaking up for justice.
NicolaRedwooddforest 7 months ago
That is not true. Your movement is not peaceful. There have been many murders of physicians by Christians. I have not heard of one incident where a pro life activist has been physically hurt by a pro choice activist.
NicolaRedwooddforest 7 months ago
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@NicolaRedwooddforest because you only watch cnn. all you have to do is google it.
johny260 7 months ago
These comments speak volumes about how sick and stupid pro abortion activists are!! This is what you have to offer the world? All while crying that your rights are being infringed. The first thing any criminal does is scream about how their a victim and their rights are infringed. You act like anyone else guilty of murder!
johny260 8 months ago
I'm pro choice.
Get at me.
DustinTheGoth 9 months ago
Abortionists are far more violent and murderous than those who are pro-life. Comparing the two is like comparing the volume of the sun to the moon.
YHWHisSovereign 9 months ago
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
I'm done replying to this thread. I feel anger and motivation to further polarize and it's not worth it. I stand by my first reaction to this video though (regarding the inappropriateness of this video made by Fr Pavone). I sincerely hope both positions will not further polarize and show more mutual respect to each other.
"Love your neighbour as yourself"
Mother Theressa, Tenzin Gyatso, John Lennon
sjakie2408 10 months ago
@sjakie2408 "let he without sin cast the first sin" all you have done is throw stones sjakie. You personally have shown no respect. what the hell is wrong with you?
johny260 9 months ago
If this is the black and white moral guidelines you seek in your Christian beliefs then I don't want any part in it. I was brought up in a traditional Christian parish were I was thought that nothing is black and white and that a good Christian is here to help people and don't judge them. I belief that the vast majority of people with a abortion related profession do their jobs because they want to help women and children and not (what you belief) kill them.
sjakie2408 10 months ago
@sjakie2408 black and white as in "though shalt not murder". the line has to be drawn somewhere othen than your selfish whims.
johny260 9 months ago
@oldcomic1 You have no idea what you're talking about! Who said the killing of Tiller was by a Catholic? And its not like we support it. We would of never treated violence with more violence! Jesus said in the bible, "love your enemies" and that's what us Catholics and pro-lifers live by.
LOLproductionsgps 10 months ago
@LOLproductionsgps Except when you're suppoorting murder and child abuse. Every penny given to the Catholic church is a yes vote for fucking children
oldcomic1 8 months ago
his 1979 book, “Aborting America,” Dr. Nathanson explained how he and others cynically fabricated and exaggerated statistics about the number of abortions and the number of deaths from illegal abortions at the same time they consciously adopted a strategy of systematically vilifying the Catholic Church hierarchy.
johny260 11 months ago
@johny260 The church hierarchy doesn't need to be vilified. Thier actions speak for themselves
oldcomic1 11 months ago
@oldcomic1 allright. ignore all the good that they've done and condemn the whole institution because even though it has less corruption than any other large institution, there is still some corruption. Just realize to be fair you have to condemn everyone else also.
johny260 10 months ago
@johny260 Less corruption than everybody else? So hundreds of years of child abuse isn't corruption. Oh and don't forget the vatican bank used to launder mafia money. It's a corporation whose purpose is to make money. I know there are sincere priests, but what stand did they take against this, The current pope participated in the cover up. As long as they don't stand against him, they have to take responsibility. And you have to take responsibility for the support you're giving
oldcomic1 10 months ago
@oldcomic1 let me break it down for you moron. this thing has been going on in every institution and handled the same way. show me one institution that deals with children with less pedaphiles than the Catholic church.
johny260 8 months ago
@johny260 So your saying they're all fucking our children. So the morons are the ones who go to their churches and give them money
oldcomic1 8 months ago
@johny260 Ignore all the good the church has done and generalize in terms of corruption?
Almost all child abuse cases reported to the police in the last few years have been cases where the victim would be satisfied if they are recognized in their problems (most important, the church). They don't seek money only acknowlegdement. What does the church do even to this date? Still tries to cover-up and trivialize like you are doing now.
sjakie2408 10 months ago
Priests want there to be lots of children for them to molest
oldcomic1 11 months ago
@oldcomic1 slander is fun isn't it. why don't you look at the actual statistics. especially that of the public school system, which has laws in place not allowing them to be sued when kids are raped and molested by teachers.
johny260 11 months ago
@johny260 The Catholic church handles their scandal like any other corporation. First cover it up then image control. Never any concern for their " flock"
oldcomic1 11 months ago
@oldcomic1 while 99% of priests sacrifice their lives to helping others. your taking those who are doing a good job and calling them pedophiles. thats what I have a problem with. second, most do show concern for their flock. Its the equivelant of saying all teachers and school officials are evil, since there is corruption in the school system. I like seeing the guilty pay, not the innocent. also read the stats.
johny260 11 months ago
@johny260 They are part of a corporation which engaged in this behavior, not just the the wrongdoing but the cover up. Documents prove that went to the highest levels of the vatican. All priests support that corporation. If the Ford Motor Co. had engaged in this type of behavior, they would be banned. Only a church can do this kind of thing and get away with it. And it's been going on for a long time. So when they present themselves as moral authorities, I say you have lost the right to do that
oldcomic1 11 months ago
@oldcomic1 you don't know what your talking about. the education system does the same thing blatently on a massive scale right now. This happened in the church to a much lesser extent then any other organization. I told you to look up the stats.
johny260 11 months ago
@johny260 Oh it did, did it the same scandal is also in Ireland and Germany. And newsflash it's been going on for hundreds of years
oldcomic1 11 months ago
@oldcomic1 as with every organization, secular and religious. Pedophilia (the sexual abuse of a prepubescent child) among priests is extremely rare, affecting only 0.3% of the entire population of clergy, also 4 in 80 of accused preists were accused of pedophilia, the rest were statutory rape. general population is 1% how about you read public school stats.
johny260 10 months ago
@johny260 You trivialize a huge crime commited by binging up these vague statistics. They might even be true but you think priests abusing small children and their bosses trying to cover up is less serious than your average bad uncle who abused his/her nephew. I think it is worse. This was organized abuse by priests who were in a dominant (supposed caregiving) situation and used that position to abuse and manipulate, and have done everyting to get away with it. Recognition not Trivializing
sjakie2408 10 months ago
@sjakie2408 listen, you don't have the right to be stupid and hard headed. you are deliberately twisting what I said because you can't handle the fact that you are illogical and I am not. I never trivialized it. I never said it wasn't horrible. You are using it as an excuse to hate those who tell you to behave and to slander the innocent "for the children"
johny260 8 months ago
I don't know any pro lifer that condones violence in the name of the cause. In fact, the pro lifers I know absolutely hate it when this happens because the media are so quick to lump them in with these lone nut killers. It sets the cause of life back not forward.
KnightOwl2006 11 months ago
@KnightOwl2006 It's not like dr. Tiller is the first one you have killed. You are terrorists and you belong in gitmo
oldcomic1 11 months ago
@oldcomic1 hey retard look up pro choice violence, and its not like your already murdering hundreds of millions of babies world wide.
johny260 10 months ago
@johny260 Pro choice violence vs Pro life violence.
Look it up and see that pro-choicers are killing millions?
You're trying to make your point by saying: "I'm right, now what's your argument?"
Many pro-lifers try not to see themselves as murderers because they have thought and talked about their difficult choice to abort because they might not be able to give the baby a good upbringing.
You don't care about people. You just want to kill them murderers. What's your motivation?
sjakie2408 10 months ago
@sjakie2408 this is like arguing with a mentally retarded asshole. you can't understand a damn thing I'm saying and just throw up one stupid stereotype after another and say its me. How can you call yourself Christian? I know, its because you only know how to lie.
johny260 8 months ago
@johny260 About recognition in stead of trivialization:
This is were we started this dicussion.
The trivialization of the murder of Dr. Tiller in this video by Pavone.
He felt the need to trivialize and communicate (on the very day of the murder) that this murder should not hold the pro-life movement back in it's course.
With child abuse the same.
Don't recognize that the church made huge mistakes and trivialize it because Christians are the only moral people and the rest are murderers.
sjakie2408 10 months ago
@sjakie2408 you keep putting words in my mouth. I never even said christians where moral. I said killing babies by anyone is wrong. and frankly one guy getting shot, compared to 100s of millions of murdered babies is relatively trivial. watch "the silent scream"
johny260 9 months ago
@oldcomic1 I guess you have to be stupid and hostile to be pro abortion in the first place
johny260 8 months ago
@johny260 I don't think women should lose their right to chose because of what superstitious morons believe. I'm not interested in making your imaginary friend happy
oldcomic1 8 months ago
@oldcomic1 Right. This subject is all about the Christian religion and it's adverse dogma. People need to wake up.
NicolaRedwooddforest 7 months ago
@oldcomic1 its to bad your mom didn't "choose" different. selfish bastard
johny260 7 months ago
@KnightOwl2006 That's a lie you always justify it with the he was murdering children defence
oldcomic1 8 months ago
You've proven my point. Do you actually feel like it's your Christian right to fuck small children?
sjakie2408 1 year ago
@sjakie2408 can you live in reality or only in a world of idiotic stereotypes. takes a lot of denial to dull that concience.
johny260 1 year ago
@johny260 LOL, if anyone doesn't live in reality it's you. You're talking so much shit that nobody is taking you seriously WAHAHAHAHAHAAA. You're a childish wannebe. Are you against abortion so you can rape small babies with your christian friends? LMFAO.
sjakie2408 1 year ago
@sjakie2408 RIGHT ON!!! THIS IDIOT ONLY FITS IN THIS MESSAGE BOARD. HE'S ALREADY BEING ATTACKED BY 3 PPL ON A MESSAGE BOARD FREQUENTLY VISITED BY ANTI-CHOICE PEOPLE LIKE HIM. THIS IDIOT WOULDN'T DARE TO POST ANYTHING ON VIDEOS THAT ARE PRO-CHOICE BECAUSE HE'D BE RIPPED APART.
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci you are ugly, even for a british woman. you should be in a hospital for the criminally insane. I have destroyed every argument you have brought forth as you retreat farther into your delusions. You show how truly ugly the pro abortion side is.
johny260 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci divinci. this is your concience. it is wrong to kill babies
johny260 11 months ago
@johny260 lol, i think he actually feels an old man with a beard in his head saying:
"Johny, God here, listen bro ..."
sjakie2408 11 months ago
@johny260 my conscience is a billion times smarter than your arguments. I see that you already have your hand full of another smart person that hates your views. Like I said, most of the people who come here are anti-choice like you, and there are already several people against you.
You have no real life and you can't accomplish much, this message board is all the chance you got for feeling important and you're using it to jerk off your ego.
1989DaVinci 11 months ago
@johny260 divinci. this is your conscience. might does not equal right. you aren't any better than someone who rapes babies.
johny260 9 months ago
@1989DaVinci actually divinci. I do and they have better arguments then you, which I also destroy. second, you have told me what a wonderful person you are and a complete psychological profile of your defence mechanisms. that is why I talk to you more. You want to be an abortionist and are a feminest in order to feel important. You come back for more to feel important.
johny260 11 months ago
@johny260 you say there is no evidence from God but do all you can to hide from that evidence. You say if God had power he would kill you, but he came down to the evil, not kill them. are you that blinded by your arrogance. reality will never conform to your wishes no matter how many walls you build up against it. "I lay before you two paths, life and death, choose life"
johny260 11 months ago
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@sjakie2408 you prove my point
johny260 1 year ago
@sjakie2408 that must be it. we don't think its right for you to murder babies so we obviously are rapists.
johny260 1 year ago
@johny260 You don't even get the insult when it's made lol
A Christian making the claim that having an abortion makes you a murderer.
Here's the deal. Christians claiming monopoly on these difficult issues is ridiculous.
You have been wrong time and time again. I'm making the rape comparison (although its off course true),
because it makes the point the best and it pisses people with these claims off the most.
People get angry when Christians try to forbid stuff and call you a murderer.
sjakie2408 1 year ago
@sjakie2408 first, killing babies is murder. second, only an idiot tries to piss off people to hide their lack of commen sense.
johny260 11 months ago
@johny260 Agreed, killing a baby is murder. So what is aborting to save a mothers life?
How many people were killed by pro-lifers opposed to pro-choicers? So who are the murderers?
Lack of common sense? You want both mother and baby to die.
Who are you to tell women what they can and cannot do? (off course you're a guy)
Trying to force your ideas on to others makes you arogant, intolerant and radical.
sjakie2408 11 months ago
@sjakie2408 thats like arguing for hitler's genocide because a few jews killed nazi soldiers.
johny260 11 months ago
@johny260 Typical for you to make this comparison (Christians, such a marvellous relation with the jews in recent history), didn't know you were this radical. What's the word for someone who thinks that they can call women that make a dificult decision to abort murderers because GOD told them so OR as a male tell all women what they can't do? Delusional, arrogant, ... But hey, you can always walk out on your girl when you knock her up and don't want responsibility. It's the Christian way.
sjakie2408 11 months ago
@sjakie2408 yes. baby killing is wrong, so I must be saying it because I think you should be in the kitchen. I am chauvinist even though you make a very good case for chauvinism
johny260 8 months ago
@sjakie2408 ok divinci sock puppet. you remind me of gaddafi when he speaks. I'm sorry you feel like your being raped by logic.
johny260 11 months ago
@johny260 LOL, raped by logic says the one making NAZI comparisons and citing from the bible.
If I am feeling raped by logic what sexual comparison is suitable for a brainwashed religious fundamentalist like you? A by-a-group-of-male-priests-gangbanged by logic. Well I guess you have been, and you liked it, hearing your true passion of what the bible says. The fun thing is, most fruitcakes like you evt. stop arguing knowing that they are wrong. You are stupid and psychotic enough not to.
sjakie2408 11 months ago
@sjakie2408 you've got 4 fingers pointed back at you. my posts actually make sense while you rave like a maniac. Maybe murdering your kid has traumatized you.
johny260 9 months ago
FRANK PAVONE, AS LONG AS WOMEN STILL HAVE THE CHOICE OF HOW TO USE THEIR UTERUS, ABORTION IS HERE TO STAY. YOU'RE A FILTHY PERVERT FOR TRYING TO TELL WOMEN THEIR WAY OF USING THEIR UTERUS IS WRONG WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A UTERUS!!!!
ABORTION IS HERE TO STAY BECAUSE IT PROTECTS WOMEN, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T GET ONE!!!!! NOBODY IS DRAGGING YOU INTO A CLINIC TO GET AN ABORTION!!!!
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci a lot of people are pressured into abortions, especially when they want to cover up statuatory rape and incest. You help let rapists off the hook.
johny260 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci In America we have a place for people like you. Its called Jerry Springer
johny260 1 year ago
@johny260 YOU'RE SO SIMPLEMINDED TO ASSUME THAT I AM AN AMERICAN. THAT'S THE MOST DISHONORABLE THING YOU CAN ALL A PERSON TODAY AND ONLY REDNECKS LIKE YOU ARE PROUD OF WHERE YOU'RE PARENTS HAD YOU RATHER THAN ANYTHING YOU ACHIEVED.
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci YOU said in another video that you were pissed because it made fun of people from Ohio, so either you just really love people from Ohio are from Ohio. If you weigh which makes more sense, it is the second possibility.
TheModerNizer 1 year ago
@TheModerNizer I never got pissed off of people insulting Ohio. I don't care about Ohio. If you saw something I wrote in the voting machine from the Simpsons, then go back and read it again, because you misread what I wrote.
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci thats the thing. I never said you live in America. you take a ludicris idea and run away from reality with it. all subtlety is lost on you.
johny260 1 year ago
@johny260 I WAS USING AMERICAN AS A DEROGATORY TERM AGAINST YOU DIMWIT. SHIT, YOU ARE STUPID!!! I'M TOO NORMAL TO GET ON JERRY SPRINGER, THE SHOW IS FOR IDIOT FUNDAMENTALISTS LIKE SAY...YOU!!!! ANYONE SMARTER THAN THAT CAN'T GET ON THE SHOW, BUT YOU'LL GET A PHONE CALL FROM THEM FOR SURE AFTER THEY READ YOUR POSTS.
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci umm. how about you read your own posts then try to say that with a straight face. it takes a lot of hate to kill babies. a lot of denial and a lot of psyching yourself up by hating those who point out that its obviously wrong.
johny260 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci again with the stereotypes. stereotypes are the refuge of those who are in denial. I'm sorry you picked murder as a profession and thought people would praise and love you for it. to bad its all empty.
johny260 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci do you realize that you are an insane troll? and you aren't normal. maybe in England. Enjoy your economic collapse, courtesy of the first "European President" Obama and your socialist ideals. To bad you don't have Germany to give your country a welfare check.
johny260 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci for someone that doesn't believe in God you create quite the case for possession.
johny260 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci this is your concience. Abortion is still wrong. Jesus died for people like you. come back from your delusional insanity.
johny260 9 months ago
@johny260 MY CONSCIENCE IS NOT AN IDIOT WHO SPEND FREE TIME GUARDING A YOUTUBE MESSAGE BOARD AND STILL FEEL SPIRITUALLY FULFILLED AS A HUMAN BEING.
1989DaVinci 9 months ago
@1989DaVinci your the one who wants to reach inside everyones vagina to kill their kids. your a filthy pervert!!
johny260 8 months ago
@johny260 tell that to the doctor who delivered you
1989DaVinci 7 months ago
@1989DaVinci this is your concience. It is wrong to murder babies.
johny260 7 months ago
@johny260 It's wrong to waste your time guarding a youtube board while not getting your head checked. At least get a REAL JOB. THIS IS WHAT YOUR MOTHER SHOULD BE TELLING YOU.
1989DaVinci 5 months ago
I have officially exposed the brainwashed mind of a wannabe abortionist. Check out my posts and 1989Davinci posts if you ever wondered what goes on inside their heads.
johny260 1 year ago
I COULDN'T BE PROUDER THAT MORE PPL ARE COMING TO BASH THIS MEDIA-WHORE FRANK PAVONE. HE'S WORSE THAN PAT ROBERTSON.
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci go get your self deprogrammed. If you have to hate people to convince yourself your right there is something wrong in your head.
johny260 1 year ago
Mr Pavone,
Could you upload a new video with your thought now that you know that it was done by a pro-lifer/anti-abortion?
I really wonder what your thoughts are on your comments regarding the "while we do not tolerate violence ...." part.
Also I would like to hear you say some words of comfort to the family and friends of George Tiller.
sjakie2408 1 year ago
@sjakie2408 I'd like to hear you say your not a hippocrate trying to prove a point to himself, also why don't you google "most peaceful civil rights movement in history of america" and if you want to see a violent mind, scroll down to your own side, Davinci1989, before you start pointing fingers.
johny260 1 year ago
@johny260 As a Christian I found it disturbing that a priest would want to make a video saying "be carefull not to link this murder to pro-life" and "the most peacefull ...". Well, mr. Pavone, now you know that someone with your ideas killed another human, what are your thoughts?
Johny260, nobody takes you seriously when you say that people are brainwashed or make money of abortions.
sjakie2408 1 year ago
@sjakie2408 As a Christian, you should know better to support pro choice crap. I can point to a million people who hold similar beliefs to who killed people who were already born. People make a lot of money off of abortions. Davinci1989 has had her symptomology pointed out on this comment site. scroll down. And read something by someone other than planned parenthood for a change. I'm not Pavone, I'm just logical.
johny260 1 year ago
@johny260 I'm not in favor of yes or no solutions (neither is logic). When a womans life is in danger I find it defendable to abort. What do you mean by people make a lot of money of abortion? Docters have a salary yes, but no docter chooses to perform abortions for the money.
sjakie2408 1 year ago
@sjakie2408 they choose it because they aren't good enough to be a real doctor and its a multibillion dollar industry. You are lying when you call yourself Christian
johny260 1 year ago
@johny260 Well, I'm Christian enough not to want legislation that would infringe on peoples rights based or call people that think different that pro-choice murders
sjakie2408 1 year ago
@sjakie2408 you don't have the right to kill babies and I'd slap your parents for creating such a monster.
johny260 8 months ago
@johny260 Well I guess your silence is because you have no answers.
sjakie2408 1 year ago
@sjakie2408 but you support it across the board for that exception. If the life of an unborn child has no value than why would it be wrong to kill her in other circumstances? its either a life or it isn't.
johny260 1 year ago
@johny260 I never said the life on an unborn child has no value.
I said there are situations where the life of the mother is in danger in which case I find abortion defendable.
Like I said, I don't like black&white solutions. I don't think that you want pregnant women to die because of pregnancy complications do you? Just like you shouldn't put words in someones mouth by saying that they find human of no value. There are some other exceptions in which case abortion should be legal imo.
sjakie2408 1 year ago
@sjakie2408 you said the unborn child's life has value. Why does it have value and if it is a human life, killing it is murder. killing babies for selfish reasons is pretty black and white.
johny260 1 year ago
@johny260 What's more selfish and black and white?
1. An unborn child is extremely valuable and abortion can only take place if it saves the mothers life.
2. Because of christian beliefs, nobody is allowed to have an abortion. If you die delivering a child, too bad.
You're religion has made you arrogant and blind to what is happening in the world. What gives you the right to decide that people can't have an abortion? All you christians think you have a monopoly on moral truth or something.
sjakie2408 1 year ago
@sjakie2408 that is a lie. abortion is not considered a sin if it is to save the mother's life. quite arguing and lying about one percent of the cases when most of the cases are due to the mother's and fathers selfeshness and carelessness. And Athiests have shown by everything they touch that Christianity has the monopoly on moral truth and that relativism is only for people who need a way to justify hurting others.
johny260 1 year ago
@johny260 Only 1% huh (why still harass them?), and the rest out of selfishness?
I get it now why you want to be a christian.
You think you have the monopoly on moral truth and God also gave you monopoly on knowledge.
Where in the bible does it say it´s not a sin when the mothers life is in danger?
How about rape? What about when the child is in danger?
It´s typicial how christian clerics get it wrong during the ages.
sjakie2408 1 year ago
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@sjakie2408 I have read your other posts. You are not Christian. You are a satanist who pretends to be a Christian.
johny260 11 months ago
@johny260 I'm gonna let the baby have his bottle, otherwise he gets fussy. you can tell you self that you destroyed my arguments if you want, but abortion is legal in the US should tell you something whether my work is praised or despised. This message board is all you got in doing anything fulfilling and it's pathetic. You have no life.
also, you still can't control women's uterus regardless of how disgusting of a person you make yourself out to be, so GO FUCK YOURSELF b/c no one's gonna.
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
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yerMaisfine 1 year ago
@yerMaisfine Despite our differences, you do have some admirable aspects to your posts:
1.) Homosexuality is contemptible
2.) Pedophilia is contemptible.
3.) Trolling is contemptible
On the other hand, you have indicated that you are an extremely bigoted, class conscious racist who hates Christians, niggers and poor people. .
USAsoldier1955 1 year ago
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yerMaisfine 1 year ago
@USAsoldier1955 Wrong? Your posts indicate otherwise, or are you simply blowing hot air?
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yerMaisfine 1 year ago
@yerMaisfine ;)
USAsoldier1955 1 year ago
@USAsoldier1955 Wink! Wink!!!!
yerMaisfine 1 year ago
@USAsoldier1955 I thought you were gay. USASoldier (U Shovit in your Ass)
sjakie2408 1 year ago
@sjakie2408 LOL! I am sorry that you want to be a Sodomite, you have my deepest condolences! :D
USAsoldier1955 1 year ago
@USAsoldier1955 No need, I know how you religious freaks give your condolences
sjakie2408 1 year ago
@sjakie2408 I understand your religious extremism, as your fellow carnies have taught you! :D
USAsoldier1955 1 year ago
@USAsoldier1955 lol, you mean my areligious attitude. You're right, I'm not thaught to try and impose religious ideas to otherthinking people like you are. I'm thaught to think independently and not parroting ideas presented to you by people that rape little boys. Is that why you pro-lifers here are so fantatical? Please don't abort, you might kill a little boy I want to fuck?
sjakie2408 1 year ago
@sjakie2408 So your religious extremism exists because you're "thaught" or "taught" to be an "otherthinking" fanatical parrot who wants to abort & rape little boys? OFLOL! :D
USAsoldier1955 1 year ago
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USAsoldier1955 1 year ago
@BritanniaBullyBaby YeeeHawww....another Irish Fairy wannabe Yank! You wouldn't make a patch on a good British arse, but if your Paki dole can afford it -- we British Americans heartily recommend them! In fact, since we support African mission efforts, I'll personally see to it that you receive a fresh crate of Florida limes for Christmas, young Togo! OFLOL! ;D
And thanks for executing that abortionist, along with those Paki student rioters!
BNP!
USAsoldier1955 1 year ago
no one forces those girls to get pregnat and no one forces them to have abortions, wtf is the big deal.
devin858420 1 year ago
I dont understand the hatred you chrishtans have for each other you should have peace like we do in most Hindu sects
suryavajna 1 year ago
@suryavajna What are you talking about? the people spewing it are athiests, and I know how Christians are treated by hindi's in india and its not very peaceful. I think you should not get your opinions of religion from youtube flame wars.
johny260 1 year ago
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USAsoldier1955 1 year ago
@USAsoldier1955 look who's talking???? look who is coming back with weak arguments while pretending to be a lutheran pastor. IF YOU'RE GONNA PRETEND TO BE SOMEONE HOLY, PRETEND TO BE GOD ...BUT WAIT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING!!!
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci = fake god/fake girl....no arguments....no brain! ;D
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yerMaisfine 1 year ago
1989davinci displays the typical psychological effects of brainwashing.
complete villainization of those who are against her cause.
Paired association with those against her cause and the worst criminals(pedofiles)
Stereotyped thinking.
fear of testing preconcieved notions.
Condemnation and hatred towards the enemy she has created in her mind.
Beleif in her own supremecy.
This is how they trained people to work in the concentration camps
johny260 1 year ago
@johny260 Yes, you have wonderfully described the psychopathic personality of 1989 DaVinci and his sock puppet Arab girlfeind, yerMessfool. "They" would be amusing -- were IT not so pathetic! I wonder what kind of noise they would make if one of their Nazi abortionists would start vivisecting them? Oh, but they're simply a "blob of tissue"! OFLOL! ;D
USAsoldier1955 1 year ago
@USAsoldier1955
I hope they get over their brainless wrath and have the grace to repent. I keep trying to explain the concept of brainwashing to davinci, but shes well programmed.
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yerMaisfine 1 year ago
@johny260 AND YET YOU ARE THE ONE PRETENDING TO BE GOD, JUDGING THESE WOMEN WHO ARE SUFFERING. BY YOUR LOGIC, YOU'RE GOING STRAIGHT TO HELL FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
IT'S JUST A SHAME THAT THERE ISN'T A HELL FOR YOU TO GO TO.
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci I forgot the part of Nazi brainwashing where told that they were the victims through their people who were victimized. this is to insight righteous fury, the next step is demonization of the "enemy". Hence your statement that you would through me into hell. The action of killing a baby is cowardly. You can condemn me as judgemental for making that statement and throw me into hell over youtube, but the line has to be drawn somewhere.
johny260 1 year ago
@johny260 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU DISPLAY EVERYONE OF THESE SYMPTOMS
complete villainization of those who are against her cause. --> you call all the women who had abortions murders (women who are against your idea of reproduction even though you don't have a uterus)
Paired association with those against her cause and the worst criminals(pedofiles) -->you accused me of being a Nazi while I'm helping women that are being harmed physically and emotionally by their pregnancy
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci I called you a nazi because you squak like a nazi and are brainwashed like a nazi, and kill like a nazi. - and you dehumanize others like a nazi. it is not a random association or an assumed one. you've said you wished you could kill me, that my family was raped, etc. your kind of a nazi.
johny260 1 year ago
@johny260 Stereotyped thinking --> you stereotyped all abortion doctors as murderers who deserve to die (so much for pro-life!)
fear of testing preconcieved notions --> science of evolution has already proved that organisms evolve but you would rather believe the easy yet wrong way that "god" made everything
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci I already disproved every scientific argument you tried to make. that which doesn't fit your mantra is automatically not considered, no matter how valid. Do you understand anything about cultic and nazi brainwashing I am trying to tell you. I'm telling you whats going on in your head and you are still running deeper into denial. The prolife movement is the most peaceful civil rights movement in the history of America. Abortionists deserve death but we give mercy, not justice.
johny260 1 year ago
@johny260 I'm not gonna bother arguing with you about science because it's not controversial...arguing with you can only lower my IQ.
arguing with someone on a message board is all you can do, you haven't gone anywhere to experience anything worldly enough to tell me that I'm programmed
I experienced with religions you haven't even heard of (Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Budhism, Jehovah's witness...) and I came to my conclusion on my own, not from some cheap book like what you're doing
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci If you were programmed you would not know it, because you are programmed to ignore the signs of it, even if you were to be told point blank.
johny260 1 year ago
@johny260 YOU'RE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK, JUST LIKE THE FAKE PASTOR HIMSELF
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci lady if you looked up "nazi brainwasing" on a search engine you would find your own psychological profile.
johny260 1 year ago
@johny260 Condemnation and hatred towards the enemy she has created in her mind --> you're not even smart enough to create a god, you just accept other ppl's tricks --> you made abortionists out to be the enemy in your own mind while men like you are irresponsible about where they jam their dicks (the abortionists are cleaning up your mess!!!)
Beleif in her own supremecy --> you believe that there definitely is a God who judges people by your bullshit standards
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci The last thing typical of nazi brainwashing is that the person is unable to consider what is being said, but assumes it is a name calling match and says "no you are" They are unable to understand what is being said, because anything that is against the mantra that has been repeated over and over is glossed over and not considered.
johny260 1 year ago
@johny260 I'M BEGINNING TO DOUBT THAT YOU WORK WITH CHILDREN. WHOEVER HIRED YOU MUST BE RETARDED BECAUSE ONLY A RETARD WOULD HIRE A RETARD.
YOU'RE ONLY AFRAID OF ABORTION BECAUSE YOU'LL BE JOBLESS IF ABORTION IS LEGALIZED. YOU WANT CHILDREN TO BE BORN IN BAD SITUATIONS SO YOU CAN MAKE A FEW BUCKS, HOW SICK CAN YOU GET!!! AT LEAST WHEN AN ABORTION DOCTOR PERFORMS AN ABORTION IT'S A ONE TIME THING, UNLIKE YOU WHO WANTS CONTINUOUS SUFFERING
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci I've already answered this argument. and you are just second in line to victimize kids by raping them with your instruments. Most rape victims cite the reason for an abortion as pressure from family. Many are also traumatized that they took the babies life. Many of abortions are pressured on the woman by others, so not really her choice anyways, but at least your making money off it.
johny260 1 year ago
@johny260 idiot, most women, regardless of their age know what an abortion procedure is before it is done and they made the choice to go through with it, regardless whether their decision is based on their family or their own. Pro-choice is about a woman making the choice of having or not having an abortion and live by it.
it's obvious that no woman wants abortions, that's why women who are not pregnant don't get them. Women get abortion because it is the right thing to do for them.
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
@johny260 you haven't proven jack, and you're getting more people who are kind enough to argue with your bullshit. BE GRATEFUL!!!
YOUR GOD LATERTERM ABORTED ALL THE PEOPLE WHO NEVER MADE IT ONTO NOAH'S ARK AND KILLED ALL THOSE EGYPTIAN BABIES!!!! YOUR GOD IS AN ABORTIONIST!!!! BY YOUR STANDARDS, BY DISOBEYING YOUR IMAGINARY FRIEND, YOU'LL BE IN HELL SOON.
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci do you realize your insane?
johny260 1 year ago
Davinci exposed herself in public then yermaisfine keeps posting to kick his pro abortion friend's posts off the page. I called him on it, now he posts as usasoldier to hide that. typical pro abortion coverup. act like a dick and try to bully, then hide it.
johny260 1 year ago
yerMaisfine is attempting to clone YouTube channels as a failed troll! :D
USAsoldier1955 1 year ago
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yerMaisfine 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
You tell'em johny260, tell them about our openly gay congregation that we belong to.
USAsoIdier1955 1 year ago
In fact, the Provos have all of the names on this page, Tiochfaidh ar la!
USAsoIdier1955 1 year ago
Yeeeeooooooowwwwzzzzzaaaaah!
USAsoIdier1955 1 year ago
I am english by the way, just thought you all should know, and I'm not a Lutheran pastor at all, I am not a christian
USAsoIdier1955 1 year ago
Oh! and USAeagleman33, we miss you at proud to be soldier vid.
brad577I 1 year ago
I love you USASoldier, I cannot stand that yerma guy, he is against homosexuality, against sodomy, against GOD entirely. I am glad you're out of the closet as you said in your PM to me, Thanx buddy!
brad577I 1 year ago
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USAsoldier1955 1 year ago
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
yerMaidfruit has just comunicated his pro-Brit sympathies and supergrass activities to the Provos....poor taig loser! ;)
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USAsoldier1955 1 year ago
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yerMaisfine 1 year ago
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USAsoldier1955 1 year ago
@USAsoldier1955 you're pot calling the kettle black
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci .....LOL....You're the kettle calling the pot black! :D
USAsoldier1955 1 year ago
@USAsoldier1955 LOL....this just proves that you're not smart enough to try a comeback!!!
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
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USAsoldier1955 1 year ago
@1989DaVinci HAHAH I use black kettles to cook with i live traditional first nation ways
USAsoIdier1955 1 year ago
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USAsoldier1955 1 year ago
yerMaisfine = Paedo Fag Toy (PFT)
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